There are very few natural hair girlies that like their actual texture. I think the initial intention was good but then people started comparing themselves and the curl envy took over

@ExoticalsUnited

8 ай бұрын

EXACTLY OMG! it started off being about hair health then curl envy took over

@gabbydavis

8 ай бұрын

And then they blame the girls they are envious of claiming they took over the movement.

@Juspeachy13

5 ай бұрын

I'm grateful for that part of the movement. When there was a focus on using natural oils, cutting off heat damage, avoid heat and chemicals in the hair, etc., it was very productive. But as soon as the texture comparisons started, everything went downhill and the hateful comments started smh.

The movement failed when they started saying “I don’t 4c my hair doing this” under every type 3 and 4a video.

Another factor of this topic is the h&m hair controversy with the little black girl with short, low density 4c hair majority of unambiguous black women harshly criticized the little girl's hair. Some black women were saying that this little girl looks dirty and messy.

@ExoticalsUnited

8 ай бұрын

OMG I SAW THAT I NEVER WOULDVE GUESSED THAT GIRLS HAIR WAS MESSY. i seriously saw nothing wrong with it. i personally dont have that hair texture but i figured it was in a messier ponytail just like how white girls wear a messy bun. i didnt even THINK of it as looking unkempt etc. i actually thought the little girl looked like a cute normal black girl who was playing on a playground or something. they have so many internalized inferiority complexes when other people arent even looking that closely.

@ExoticalsUnited

8 ай бұрын

@@biggieshorty yes omg!

@ExoticalsUnited

8 ай бұрын

@@Aries.Goddess30 right! i thought the little girl just looked cute and natural! i wasnt thinking anything of her 'edges' etc

@oncode7735

8 ай бұрын

The way they went after Blue Ivy and Simone. They hated that Beyoncé didn’t perm Blu’s hair and slick her edges. Now Blu has a head full of hair down her back. More black women can have longer/fuller hair if they didn’t try to manipulate it to look like something unnatural. They even complain about textured extensions. I won’t wear anything that doesn’t look like it can’t be mine and I get compliments all the time

@melanatedmulatta7319

8 ай бұрын

Which shows their self hate they complain about not being able to where a messy bun then criticize a little girl for adopting the messy hair look that was very popular at that time.

A lot of the 4c hair natural girls have grown hair out just to relax it .

@ExoticalsUnited

8 ай бұрын

OOOOOOOH my gosh thats such a good point! some women grow their entire hair out so they can relax it, highlight it, texturize it or do other things to basically make it look more "ambiguous"

@oncode7735

8 ай бұрын

If I had 4C hair, I honestly would perm it too🤷🏽‍♀️

@audine2007

8 ай бұрын

Big up to those that rock 4c natural. I have 4c hair and I truly hate it loose. The shrinkage, broken combs. It actually grows long but you would never know unless you straighten it. I have had locs, I liked my locs but I combed them out after 6 years and and relaxed it

I know a girl who tried to tell me that her hair was 3a. Her hair was obviously 4b/4c. She told me it just had to grow out. Self hatred and denial is the problem. Like her many black women went into the natural hair community not knowing their hair texture. They prayed for type 3 hair and some of them were disappointed to find out that they had 4c hair.

@ExoticalsUnited

8 ай бұрын

That’s exactly what I was trying to get at with this video. Some women stretch their hair to make it look more ambiguous

I agree. But another reason people with kinky hair type stretch their hair is because if they leave it in a shrunken state it will tangle it will be a mess so they have to stretch it out in order to be able to style or do anything to it. Because it'll just be Tangled at the end of the day because of their kinks and coils. It's sad because I find the hair quite beautiful

@ExoticalsUnited

7 ай бұрын

But if a type 3 girl says the same thing you’re saying then she’s a texturist . If I say my hair tangles less than 4c hair and is easier to manage I’m a texturist

@Clanko243

2 ай бұрын

@@ExoticalsUnitednot it’s not texturist like straight hair are the most easy hair to manage cause they are straight and don’t tangles

I have 3c/4a hair and at my job I always have customers ask me what I use in my hair. I only use a leave in cream and oil, I only use gel when I have like 2 days left of my wash and go. When I tell them they always look disappointed. Women with tighter hair textures tend to believe that there is one product that will make their hair look type 3, but no it’s not. Besides that, my hair gets complimented a lot , even by Indian/ Asian women. I don’t think the natural hair movement failed, I think they just never learned to love their hair texture. Many bw spent majority of their time following creators & supporting the ones who didn’t have their hair type instead of the ones who did.

They were also obsessed with Naptural85 who has long 3C/4A hair and her mixed race daughter Olivia who has 3B due being Blindian. They worshipped her even though they didn't even have her texture but because she was DS with long hair they related to her. She has the same type hair as the biracials they claim stole the limelight, though.

@ExoticalsUnited

8 ай бұрын

Omg that’s such a good point

@nickimillennium

8 ай бұрын

She has a very typical type 4 actually. The reason she really took off is what you mentioned that she’s in an interracial relationship and has a mixed race child. Any black women that get together with an all black man, they love. They’re obsessed with Megan Markel and swear she’s black because she’s with a white prince

@Morningtimez

8 ай бұрын

you guys sound dumb most african americans do not have 4c hair so 4a/3c hair is a common texture to have 💀

@solarsister5228

6 ай бұрын

@@Mimi24177 She's one of my favorite content creators and honestly it has never had anything to do with curl pattern. I follow people with a range of curl patterns and hair textures. I even follow white content creators with straight hair because at the end of the day it's about hair health for me. As long as I can get useful information that can help me care for my hair then I'm good. I really liked what Whitney was and still is doing to keep her hair in the healthiest condition and she was sharing that with a community that was starving for information at that time. She's evolved over the years and so has her routine. All her techniques didn't work for my hair type but some did. I have children with type 2 hair and it can be as temperamental as my type 4 hair. That's why I focus more on hair health and not type.

@solarsister5228

6 ай бұрын

@@Mimi24177 In my opinion I believe her pattern didn't necessarily change because she purposely did something to it, I think it became elongated as her hair grew out. That could be because her hair became heavier. Her hair density is high. If you look at her wash day content or those videos where she has no product on her hair you can see even with an elongated curl pattern she is still very much a type 4 and she still experience some of the shrinkage of a type 4 just less as her hair grew out. I have that same thing to happen to me as my hair grows out. I have medium hair density but my shorter hair is lighter in weight and that allows my hair to spring into a tighter curl. As my hair grows out I start seeing my curls getting longer in shape because the weight of my hair is changing. If you look at her older videos her texture is basically the same as it is today but her curl is less elongated. My children are the opposite, their curl pattern becomes less visible the shorter the hair cut, the longer I let it grow out the loose curl pattern presents.

I’ve been a type 4a/4b natural for almost 10 years now and I had to take accountability for my own self esteem by leaving the natural hair community 2 years in. It was too much about length and hair definition and type 4 influencers literally telling other type 4 naturals that we can’t do a wash and go cause our hair will get tangled and if we’re gonna do it we need to get it as defined as possible. literally all this OBSESSION with curl definition and pretending it’s about “health” so you’re right in that it was never about embracing your natural hair. type 4 (especially 4c) girls need to take accountability for their own self esteem and forge their own path to loving their natural hair instead of blaming type 3 girls. the constant promotion of curl definition in that community wasn’t serving me so I LEFT and once I stopped caring about length and definition I flourished, I no longer wanted my hair to be looser and now when my wash n go naturally stretches itself out into a big fluffy afro, everyone loves it and I get compliments from people of all hair textures and ethnicities

@ExoticalsUnited

8 ай бұрын

Right EVEN I was like oh, am I supposed to be making my hair look even looser? (My hair is already a 3b at best) it got to the point where my hair was literally as straight as an Asian girl with the hair styles I was doing ☠️

@yukakoyamagishi9197

8 ай бұрын

@@ExoticalsUnited the fact that it didn’t just affect type 4s is crazyyyyy. it’s all very online conversation at the end of the day cause when you step into the real world you realise there was nothing wrong with your hair and the only person who needed to see that was you! and 4c women are their own biggest opps

Male gaze is overrated 😂 These guys aren't for you, it's just staring and assuming. 😂

@ExoticalsUnited

8 ай бұрын

right ! they shouldve decentered men before pointing the finger at us. a hair texture doesnt stop a man from cheating so....

@letterpage7640

8 ай бұрын

@ExoticalsUnited Nothing stops anyone who wants to cheat, exactly.

It was all a damn trend. That is the problem. For a majority of women, going natural wasn’t a personal journey to self-acceptance. It was just the thing that everyone was doing, so they tried it. This was what I feared was happening and what I feared would happen. I went natural as a teen in 2001. But, even then, my initial reason was because I hated that my hair was so weak when it was relaxed. So I made a personal choice to cut out the relaxer and go back to my natural hair. My friends thought I was crazy. I didn’t care what they thought. But my journey to actually ACCEPT my type 4 hair, as it was, and begin to actually love it, didn’t start until 2007. I had a bad hair trim by someone who didn’t know what they were doing and that resulted in me just having to cut everything off and start over. That year, I slowly learned to just love myself, love my hair and I started rocking my Afro with all my heart. That took years to get to. It took years to undo the socialized self hatred and conditioning. And I didn’t have support of natural sisters around me to share that journey, back then. Fast forward and it’s a whole social movement with women, who were already insecure about their hair, jumping into a trend without having organically arrived at the decision through internally driven inspiration. They were bound to follow the wave out of natural hair, just as fast as they followed it in. Still, I’m grateful that the movement happened and that many sisters are sticking to their natural hair in spite of what others say and do. Being natural is about fully embracing ALL of yourself despite what everyone else is doing and despite their opinion of you.

@ExoticalsUnited

8 ай бұрын

Exactly

As an Exotical with 4c hair, I must say wanting the braid out/twist out look really only has to do with how we realized how pretty our hair looked after taking down our hair from a braided hairstyles. Just that simple. Wasn’t thinking about looser texture haired ppl. And yes, a lot of us do like see our hair shiny or with a luster 🤷🏽‍♀️ That doesn’t necessarily mean that that thought ends with “like loose curly or straight haired ppl”. For some that is true tho, but not for all of us. And, why can loose curly haired ppl can run gel thru ya’ll hair to define ya’ll curls, but us 4-family haired girls can’t? It means we hate our hair if we do? Seems like 4-family haired girlies can’t do what everyone else does with their hair in peace. We have to hate our hair if we do what everyone else does to their hair! Why is that? P.S. And yes, we want our long hair to long hair and not shrink up on us. Who wouldn’t?? Wanting our texture our to be stretched out to highlight it’s length doesn’t equate to wanting “mixed” looking hair neither. 😮‍💨

@ExoticalsUnited

8 ай бұрын

You’re making the “not all” argument . 1. I know there are exoticals with 4c hair , this channel was created for them and 2. I never said all women who wanted to have looser textures were trying to look more ambiguous. I said some unambiguous women were . If this rhetoric doesn’t apply to you that’s because it’s not geared towards you. My content like this is geared towards unambiguous women who want to look more ambiguous while simultaneously making fun of said women. No one else. I said this multiple times within my videos and throughout my dozens of other videos on this channel.

@april_dawn

8 ай бұрын

@@ExoticalsUnited Ohhhhh okay, I understand now! I think I’m a bit sensitive about my 4c hair, b/c I get harassed about “Why you do this or that to your hair?” My bad!

@Beautifulwingz4735

8 ай бұрын

​@@april_dawn Just ignore her. Braids retain moisture more. Most 4c hair girls did twist outs to RETAIN moisture. Moisture is what helps your hair grow. Let ignorant people think what they want. I'm pretty sure if u brushed your hair, they would think u r trying to be them

@NotEverday

8 ай бұрын

​@april_dawn I honestly think they get mad when BW are more prettier than them and get more attention. All women of all races want long, healthy hair. It has NOTHING to do with wanting to look mixed! Twist outs help 4C girls grow extremely long hair. It's the jealousy for me!

@yellej3314

8 ай бұрын

@@april_dawn This lady is uneducated on 4c hair, & so are a lot of other black women. 4c hair isn’t just dry Afro, we have actual coils & our hair LOVES to be stretched, separated, defined & in any style that keeps it from being tangled. The reason it’s hard to grow because 1. We have the coilest of all hair types, each strand coils in different directions making it susceptible to constant tangles which causes breakage, which makes it hard to retain length, since it’s the coilest it’s hard for our sebum to travel down the hair strands to lubicrate them. When you see women with long 4c hair you will notice they always keep their hair stretched, that’s why dreads grow faster. Separation of your strands, stretching & moisture is key. Women in Africa have been using stretching methods for hair growth. before Africa was colonized they always styled their hair in different fun ways, they never left their alone in a shrunken fro. not everything is self hate, that’s always been apart of black culture. Never let anyone shame you into not doing what’s best for your hair. 99% of these loose naturals use a bunch of products to get their curls poppin, shaming someone with 4 c hair for defining their curls is ignorant as if the coils don’t come naturally from your head!

I almost lost my hair with the chemicals and product junkie habits now I’ve finally embraced my texture no stretching no over manipulation no going out of my way to change it’s texture

As a black, unambiguous woman with 4A and a tiny bit of 3C, I completely agree with you! I use to see these wash and go videos and I would roll my eyes. After washing, they’d use a leave-in, then a curl cream, then a gel, and then they would ring the hair around their finger to get ringlets! 🤦🏾‍♀️ I’m like oh hell nah. That’s a lot of work to get “curls”. I don’t see anything wrong with using gel to define curls but 5 products to weigh hair down and get curls is weird. I also noticed that type 4B and 4c women who wear natural hair wigs ALWAYS wear wigs that are of 3C/4A textures. They NEVER buy a 4C wig.

The picture like the one at 1:42 was one of the biggest problems with the natural hair movement, and is created lots of confusion and hair envy. The examples of "4a" and "4b" hair are both type 3 curls patterns, Beyonce's more defined, and Kerry's brushed out. Solange is the only type 4 girlie up there, and it could be anything from 4a to 4c at this distance. Also, braid outs, twist outs, etc, allow women with tighter type 4 coils to not only enjoy some length, but also enjoy wearing their highly-textured hair in a way that prevents excessive tangling and minimizing manipulation for optimal hair health. While I take your point that many in the natural hair movement never really learned to embrace their natural texture (largely because of overrepresentation of looser textures, as mentioned in the previous paragraph), I think it's also toxic when natural hair police go to far in the other direction and deem any sort of hair styling/manipulation as an effort to appear more Eurocentric. No one, curly or straight, just rolls out of bed and goes onto their world. Everyone styles their hair in some shape or form.

@ExoticalsUnited

7 ай бұрын

I agree , my point was that looser hair shouldn’t always be the standard as it caused women to begin making videos called “I hate my 4c hair”. And the women are often gen z girls who were growing up during a time when women were working extra hard to get their hair looser . Also, I have seen lots of 4c girls who wear their hair shrunken and it’s still healthy and long etc

@hoosieraussis1

7 ай бұрын

@@ExoticalsUnited I have seen those videos too. I wish society could get past very narrow beauty standards, and acknowledge that beauty comes in many forms. This was supposed to be the goal of the natural hair movement, but it missed the mark in a lot of ways, especially later in the movement when more people got into it for financial profit and became gimmicky. I did learn a lot from the movement. I weeded out the gimmicks (inversion method, water only, etc), and was able to use the advice of KZreadrs to learn to care for my natural hair texture. While the obsession with length can be problematic, it was very empowering for many of us with type 4 hair to learn to grow our hair past shoulder length for the 1st times in our lives. Ultimately, I think the natural hair movement died because the content has peaked, people have learned how to care for their hair, and have moved on to other interests. In a way, it's not dead, because while natural hair content has slowed down, I think many people remain natural. I'm seeing very few relaxers in the stores these days.

I have put things in my hair to obtain the mixed girl look more for interviews. I’m in that 4B range but lighter and ppl act almost offended that my hair is so kinky. Ppl would ask when am I gonna straighten it more than I’d like. But you are spot on. The looser curls have been idolized so much now. It’s like the Jerry curl all over again.

Wow, my mom went natural after she got inspired by the scene from Black Panther when the actress was taking off the wig. I heard that black hair is supposed to be versatile.

Chilee it’s true tbh 😢 we need a part 2 reacting to different 4c hair KZreadrs who claim type 3/4a girls stole the movement becuase I’ve seen a lot of black women complaining about this jouleZy was one of them

@kristinamarie111

8 ай бұрын

Yes and Chrissy made a whole video about it too.

Great video and perspective. One thing I’d like to point out is the societal pressure as well. While the male gaze is certainly a huge factor but type 4 hair in its natural state has historically been associated with lower socioeconomic status, less feminine, “looking like a slave” etc. When society as a whole prefers a looser curl pattern women will attempt to achieve this look in order to be treated better. Just like women perming or straightening their hair for cooperate America. Overall it’s definitely gotten better, as a black woman with 4c hair I’ve gotten compliments when I wear my natural hair or when extensions closer to 4a/3c but I still get treated much better with the looser hair extensions.

@ExoticalsUnited

8 ай бұрын

I agree, which is why it’s hypocritical for them to then turn around and say women with type 3 hair are cursed and that we are ramen noodle head ass b-tches . look at my other videos and you’ll see where this video is coming from.

E U, you chose violence today! 😮😅

@ExoticalsUnited

8 ай бұрын

yeah people always get triggered when i make colorism and texturism videos on this channel. but the smoke is only going towards those who say we are mediocre while trying to look like us. for example i would never say indian women are ugly because number 1 i have worn their hair extensions before. so clearly indian women are gorgeous. it would be disingenuous to say that indian women are mediocre, will age badly and that they only attract dusties while i simaltaneously wear hair that looks like theirs. thats hypocritical. yet thats exactly what UABW do to us sometimes

@uniquelyme3581

8 ай бұрын

@@ExoticalsUnited l hear you!!

Isn’t it hilarious when unambiguous bw try to tell you that you need a trim because of the dead ends 😂

@ExoticalsUnited

7 ай бұрын

Right! It was crazy when a girl with damaged relaxed hair told me I need to do my natural hair 😂 I was thinking uhhh didn’t you relax your hair to get it more like how mine is when it’s “not done”? 😂

At first I viewed the natural hair movement as the "no heat no chemical" movement, but was really confused on who I was supposed to reference because the end results were always so different. It took me a long time to realize that I didn''t have to do twist outs or braid outs to get my 3C/4A curls to do what they did naturally. It was a an extra step others made to get desired textures that weren't their own. Kinda hard to call that extra texture manipulation natural at all

It’s been A WHOLE YEAR since I last straightened my hair! I’m so proud of myself cause even during the whole natural hair movement (I was very obsessed with buying hair products and became a product junkie) but even then, I used to straighten my hair about 3 times a year. I really wish to see more girlies embracing their curls (ALL TYPES) and when you don’t feel like doing a wash n go, just tie it up or braid it out.

@ExoticalsUnited

8 ай бұрын

yup, its been about 2 years since i've flat ironed mine. if i want it straight i can just put my natural hair in a bun and put a straight wig on top of it and boom. im done in five minutes . the straight wig matches my hairline though lol im not slicking my edges or putting on glue. thats too much work. i don't care if people wear wigs, i just dont like how they accuse mixed women of 'taking over' and 'hijacking' the natural hair movement. hijacking? thats literally what terror!sts do. we are just Mixed or light skinned women, not terror!sts....

I hate gels !! And layed hair

@ExoticalsUnited

8 ай бұрын

right! whats wrong with wanting puffs? i proudly wore my puffy lions mane blown out hair in college.

@theeerarestjewel

8 ай бұрын

@@ExoticalsUnited Voluminous hair is a head turner

I only watch type 4 influencers because that’s the hair I have.

@ExoticalsUnited

8 ай бұрын

Yay! 😍 I love blowing my hair into an afro! I’m going to do it soon.

@Ag13463

8 ай бұрын

@@ExoticalsUnited also as I continued to watch your video. I must say this type 4 texture speaking for myself I don’t do twist out or wash & go to imitate type 4 girls. I have kids with type 3 hair it takes me less than 5 minutes to care for their hair as opposed to taking care of my hair. As busy moms or working women an afro isn’t feasible and the detangling time that would impose on the individual isn’t worth it. Also that hair isn’t acceptable in this european standards that exist. Many choose to feed their families and hair is the least of their problems. I absolutely agree with so many of your points in this video however I do feel at times you mirrored your experience which is human, but from someone who has type 4 texture it’s offensive eg( you spoke about the experience with miss jessie curls ) you said why the type 4 girl wanted to use that product then you spoke of mixed chicks. As a type 4 girl I don’t use products to emulate a type 3 girl but I use it to keep my hair moisturized our hair is very dry compared to a type 3 girl. Also I have biracial children and it’s not because I wanted children with a white man, that’s the person I fell in love with. Just keep in mind type 4 texture is much different from type 3 and doing different styles to maintain our hair doesn’t mean we want to reflect a type 3 girl. We need to encourage each other in just rocking our individual hair however it’s easiest. Much love, I absolutely understand your perspective and agree very much that people try to blame no views on the content creator with the type 3 hair , that’s not the real problem most type 4 girls don’t like seeing kinky hair. Many companies also see it pointless to hire a type 4 girl when the very people with that same texture don’t watch type 4 hair content.

Not gonna lie, I thought my hair would be that type 3 curly natural hair like all the youtubers I would see who were natrual. I was disappointed to learn that I have 4c and a small section on the back is 4a and it looks nothing like most people who are natural on KZread. My hair is short and have been the same length for like 10 years.

I dabbled in the natural hair movement, (NEVER considered myself part of a "community") and I do think there was good intentions in the beginning, but I've always had some misgivings about it that ultimately made me go back to doing a combo of keeping my hair blow dried and using wigs/extensions. Firstly like any other beauty and lifestyle channel, I always assume that the #1 goal of channels is getting me to buy something and #2 beating the algorithm for views. There was always a new trend, a new product, and a new controversy that everyone seemed to back, because at the end of the day, you can only do the same wash-n-go tutorial so many times over before getting creators' fatigue. Secondly, the attitudes of the natural hair movement rekindled a lot of memories of hypocrisy and crab mentality I've seen with black women and natural hair. For reference, I have type 4 hair (not sure where it falls) and I'm in my thirties, so I was a teen when KZread first began and I watched some of the first predecessors of the KZread natural hair movement. One creator in particular was longhairdontcare (R.I.P.) and she was dark, unambiguous, and had long as hair. She was never really product focused, just technique focused, and she was a blow-dry natural with type 4c hair. She was doing "everything right" and yet it surprised me that she got hate comments basically "suggesting" that she should cut her hair off because it was "too long." I don't know for sure but I have almost no doubt that the people making those comments looked like her and had the same type of hair as her. Those comments made me reflect on my own hair history. Again, my hair is type 4a-bish and my mom always maintained it from birth. My hair was super long and healthy, but I was a blow dry natural and kept it in what was essentially protective styles to keep my hair maintained; they weren't stylish by any means. And all I can remember, especially when I hit middle school, was how everyone would call my hair ugly and unkempt, despite it being longer than theirs; didn't help that I was lighter skinned/ambiguous and that I didn't "act black enough" so the combined bullying and peer pressure resulted in the decline of my hair length and health (and, if i had to be totally honest, my mom wasn't much help during this time. To harken back to a previous video, my mom might have been a bit resentful of my hair and never gave me any guidance on how to take care of my own god damn hair; like, "if I can't be your hair's exclusive caretaker, then I'm going to watch it fall out." 🥴). A lot of black women talk about the struggles of accepting their natural hair, which i get, but i wonder how many of these women would admit to how harsh they are on other black women's hair, if they ever bullied others for wearing their hair in more natural states than them, because the harsh reality is that once again, IT WASN'T WHITE/NON-BLACK PEOPLE CRITICIZING MY HAIR, IT WAS BLACK PEOPLE (often unambiguous dark skinned women and girls). And sadly many of them have crab mentality: if I can't have long hair or get away with being an "unkempt beauty" then I'm bringing other women down with me (b/c with that pretty privilege debate is how ambiguous/lighter skinned/or looser curlies can have "unkempt" hair and still be seen as pretty, which I guess was my childhood experience). So I'm not too surprised at the turn this "community" has taken. I was really sus when a lot of them began accusing lighter skinned/ambiguous/looser curly girls for "stealing the movement" because I'm at least two of those things but I NEVER SEARCHED FOR HAIR CARE FOR 3C HAIR - but someone is. Because the end goal of a lot of 4c dark skinned girls is to get looser hair and to "outmatch" MLS women. But yeah, I'm definitely taking advice from that first natural hair KZreadr: I'm getting my long hair back and I don't care about this movement/community. 💇🏽‍♀️

I love curly proverbz 😊

@ExoticalsUnited

8 ай бұрын

me too!

What is 4C hair? 4C hair is beautiful hair made by God! I'm so glad God made us and not we ourselves or man. God doesn't make any junk whether your hair is 4C or 3B or whatever. When God finished making us, He made us all good. All of the hair types in the video were beautiful. I especially liked the 4C hair. Our hair rocks! 😊

@ExoticalsUnited

8 ай бұрын

I agree 🤷🏽‍♀️ I don’t see why more people don’t embrace the 4c texture

Do what you want but prepared to be questioned ‼️‼️

@ExoticalsUnited

4 ай бұрын

Right! As long as you don’t care about questions you can do what you want . People are going to question either way 😂

Thanks for uploading this video. I'll be addressing this topic in a video as well.

Yeah, I did noticed people ain't talking about natural hair anymore. That faded into obscurity.

Ironically, most black hair care products are aimed at 4c and above hair-- and nothing else.

Love this drag as a 4b girlie .

@ExoticalsUnited

8 ай бұрын

lol! the drag is only meant for people who say we hijacked their movement and call us ramen noodle headed b!tches, not for all 4b and 4c girlies 😍 doja cat is a 4c girlie! willow smith also has type 4 hair too!

@theeerarestjewel

8 ай бұрын

@@ExoticalsUnited and our princess Blue ivy 💙

This video is incredibly honest. The truth that a lot of us don't want to hear but need to hear. Thanks for this! ♥

@ExoticalsUnited

2 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Honest truth and someone had to say it.. I would roll my eyes honestly when I see those videos because ik what was really going on, but if they did admit it then I would cheer them on honestly because it takes alot to be that vulnerable.

@ExoticalsUnited

8 ай бұрын

right!

12:42 🤭 Omg, I know the Miss Jessie’s line! Honestly, all those products work best for type 3 and 2 hair.

Thank you for the video and your commentary 🤍 With regards to natural hair and hair length, I get a lot of attention and looks when my hair is styled in a twist out and down, as longer hair better compliments my face. My natural hair is at bra strap length now and I haven’t fully flexed my hair length to show how long it is 😝 There is no secret to growing healthy hair, I believe that some people do not care for their hair based on laziness and/or ignorance or not liking their own hair which pains my soul.

@ExoticalsUnited

6 ай бұрын

Yes !

Wow you have such great insight.

@ExoticalsUnited

7 ай бұрын

I appreciate that!

But when you grow 4c hair the texture starts to change from what I noticed you just have to be patience.

@Lina32121

8 ай бұрын

It does, get alittle looser as it gets weighed down.

I’ve also experienced women trying to force me out of my hair type for them to fit into it instead. My hair is curly my hair is not “wavy” this girl argued me and my bestf down saying our hair was wavy just so she could say her coily kinky hair was “curly”😵‍💫😵‍💫putting me up higher on the chart than what I was just so they could fit in that spot instead. My hair is 3c with a middle patch in 4a nothing about my hair screams wavy nothing about my hair is 3b so don’t claim it is just so you can say yours is 3c 4a

@ExoticalsUnited

6 ай бұрын

Omg yes I’ve witnessed this too !

@taylagaddis6707

6 ай бұрын

@@ExoticalsUnited and it’s so weird because it’s obvious as day that their hair isn’t curly like why try to gaslight me as if my hair is wavy. Maybe when I slick it up yes and even then that’s still not how my hair naturally grows out I simply brushed it up into a bun or ponytail!

Another thing I forgot to mention is that 4c women will say they’re wearing their hair stretched out because it’s easier to manage and gets less tangled and length retention is easier . But then when a type 3 girl says her hair gets tangled less and retains length she’s a texturist.

@night2102

6 ай бұрын

@@KamariaNiasfacts

I thought the natural hair movement was to obtain healthy hair vs Unnatural, unhealthy heat, or a chemicals that was damaging our hair and allowing our hair to get healthy and or length

My hair is naturally curly. Like 3b and 3c and it’s very long. Also, it’s very thick. So many people asked me what did I do to make my hair look like that or just making rude comments that it’s a wig.

It doesn’t seem like you are much of an authority to speak on this issue. Half of the things you are saying are wrong and aren’t just limited to monoracial women. There are plenty of biracial and MLS women with coilier hair. Why are you alienating them

@KillianLove

6 ай бұрын

​@@MochaHoneyRoseyou're right. I had a biracial woman tell me "I don't understand my mom is white but your hair is waist length. How is your hair better than mine." I told her jokingly, "You took more after your father." I didn't take offense, I was just like WOW she felt because I'm black my hair should look bad & not grow. She's not the only mixed woman that made a negative comment about my hair. MLS are a trip.

A lot of wigs I see people wear is straight hair sometimes dyed blonde or bright colours. I don't think it is about trying to be anyonw but availabity and havinv easy to manage hair

Ohhh girll you talked on it!!! Finally someone did

The stretching was ridiculous the baby hair thing omg 🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️ embarrassing

@ExoticalsUnited

7 ай бұрын

Omg I’ve seen women getting baby hairs tattooed onto their heads

My hair is 3c/4a & I had long hair when I was relaxed prior to 2012. Texturism & length has made my ethnicity questionable according to my counterparts (even as a dark skinned woman). I like to let my hair “dehydrate” or comb it out to look like a true type 4 & to let my fro shine. I love to let my hair be because I’m not the best at doing it anyhow. I admit that I love longer hair. I also love that my hair is malleable. If I straighten it for a month (which I rarely do) the perimeter strands get much looser. Also, manageability & length retention is why the majority of type 4 women choose to hyper moisturize, twist & product pile. I don’t think it’s about looking mixed (perhaps it’s about looking like they have good hair idk). I believe it’s about the conditioning we’ve received in regards to “taming” our hair. It’s about it looking neat, clean or like you cared enough to do it. Nonetheless, I think it’s their prerogative. I see many mixed women piling on products and wetting their hair down too. Some women label themselves type 3 when they’re simply heat trained. I can’t wait until I can afford a stylist who can do both (weave & natural). If I don’t get one soon. I’ll consider adopting the glam twins method further (straight half of the year & curly the other half) lol. I love the malleability of my hair. I just don’t like to do it so it usually looks dry & I don’t mind it (other ppl do) 🤷🏾‍♀️ lol

Listen, as a member of the type 4 committee, I think your natural hair suits your facial features. Just saying. God dont make mistakes. After looking at my pics from back in the day, my lips looked too full for a blonde weave. What was I thinking lol smh?

@ExoticalsUnited

8 ай бұрын

lmao! i never thought about that! now youve got me thinking if ive ever seen a person with full lips wearing a blonde weave 😂😂

@fatimadavis90

8 ай бұрын

@@ExoticalsUnited As one KZread said wear the hair that matches the face of you race

It had to be said and you did 😯👌🏾Thank you!

You’re spot on again! Specially how the natural hair movement started. Smdh

Now wigs and weave rein supreme

Maybe because i only saw the natural hair movements once it was over but i don't see much people at least not the ones i have watched wanting to make their type 4 hair similar to any othrr types

16:52 I used to have a friend who kept saying I had 🥷 naps and my hair was nappy just because it’s kinkier, my hair was long and hers was short since she flat ironed it all the time .

@ExoticalsUnited

27 күн бұрын

Yup she was jealous

@YummiLolZ

27 күн бұрын

@@ExoticalsUnited and the crazy thing was she would always ask me to do her hair and I would tell her no 💀

There was a really beautiful light skinned KZreadr with loosely curled hair. I don’t know if her channel still up and I can’t remember her name. I remember when she was straightening her hair she got hell. Last time I saw her she cut a bunch of her hair off and only wears her hair in a curly kinky style. I feel like that was in response to not wanting to trigger the angry, dark skin chicks. Kind of like when Ayesha Curry got bullied out of wearing a blond wig because the dark skins got mad at how good she looked in it.

And when I point this out I’m bashed and ostracized

I have the same texture as Denise Matthews and Zoey Saldana and I love it. 😂. I don’t have any guilt.

@ExoticalsUnited

7 ай бұрын

omg yes! Zoe Saldanas Hair looks like mine!

Je n'ai jamais été une belle fille. C'est intéressant de vous écouter. Vos perspectives sont différentes. C'est de la curiosité.

Great video! I’ve always said the natural hair movement of the 2010’s was the mulatta/mls woman’s natural hair movement as we were the only ones featured-our hair was the guideline and aspiration! Nearly all the popular products were by our women as well-Miss Jessie’s, Curls, Mixed Chicks, etc. I’ve been my naturally 3b/3c self since 2010 as well. I’ve had black and white women in nearly equal numbers compliment my hair. I’ve grown it to waist length (unstretched!) and then cut it to around shoulder length. I’m currently growing it out again and am at APL, but I’m tempted to cut it REALLY short to do Marilyn-esque 1950’s style roller sets.

@ExoticalsUnited

8 ай бұрын

yes and I love all of those brands! I just bought some more miss jessies recently! and omg i used to be waist length but i got scissor happy and cut it and its at APL now as well! but its only at APL when straight 😂 thats how much i cut it 😭

@ravenrebel3183

8 ай бұрын

@@ExoticalsUnited twins! I don’t know how long my hair is stretched because I like not fussing with it that much, but when it’s wet in the shower it’s a good deal longer. Rocking a little longer than bra-strap length when wet. My hair is fairly fine though so it looks thinner when it’s long and fuller when it’s short. So I waffle a lot about length lol.

I’m natural and I think people can do the same things for different reasons. People typically assume I had some kind of Come to Jesus moment. Never happened. I stopped relaxing and all other chemicals including dyes for health reasons after a diagnosis that was making my hair fall out in clumps. I guess my point is not everyone who went natural jumping on a bandwagon. This makes a difference. My mom cut my relaxed hair off for me. Actually my family is from a rural Southern subculture where natural hair has always been common. So while I was upset my hair was falling out it wasn’t a big concern for me to stop chemicals because I grew up seeing it. I have 4a and I like my hair fine the way it is. Women in their 60s to teen girls in my family wear many styles and that includes afros and locs. I have a cousin who has shaved her head practically bald a few times and was gorgeous. I have seen her grow it out multiple times, relax, get tired of relaxed hair then cut if off, bleach or whatever multiple times. she’s locking for now. If anything my issues has been women explaining to me why they can’t go natural or wear in their natural state although I didn’t ask them anything about their hair. I told some of them I didn’t see it as a big deal and they got upset. So now I say little. And some of these women were type 3s telling me this.

Was that a jheri curl! 😂 I remember when people had them!

@ExoticalsUnited

8 ай бұрын

yes thats the gina curl which is the modern day version of a jheri curl 😂

Unfortunately I can’t connect to any movement I notice my hair isn’t as dense and perfectly patterned and consistent as most type 4 girls and my hair isn’t as low in porosity as the shiny type 1, 2 and 3 girlies.

I joined the natural hair movement and it had a lasting impact on me as someone who got relaxers from a young age.I didn't know there was an alternative to relaxing, because relaxing was the only thing I knew from the age of 6/7 .even though people are moving away from natural hair now and using wigs Im going to stay natural because I can manage my hair myself when its natural.

It’s crazy because there was a post on LSA saying that they hate their 4C hair I was like yeah because your hair is short and it’s weird even when they have long hair they wear wigs it so strange

@yougotgamesonyourphone6947

8 ай бұрын

@@ambo9569Girl it’s KZreadrs that’s been “protective styling” for years and still eat length

So true 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

I used to do hair videos and would get comments that I wasnt natural because i dyed my hair copper LOL. I had a relaxer ONCE in my life at age 6, from then on out I had to teach MYSELF how to do my hair (mexican mom has straight, long Native american hair). So many newly naturals coming to tell me, a lifetime natural, that I am not natural🫠. Also, i would get baby hair tutorial requests but i never made the video because I didnt want to deal with the comments “oh of course it’s easy for you to do it” or “eco styler isnt strong enough”. The number one tip is to have hair that can be laid, if it cannot do that easily, there is nothing wrong with kinky coily edges!

@ExoticalsUnited

6 ай бұрын

exactly!

Girl too real on this one. Like 222 real

Damn u lost me at it coils up in on itself.😅 that sounds rough😩 I thought the water would make it straight and untangle easier🤦🏽‍♀️😫😫😫😫

That movement made "certain people" feel special.

I'm ashamed to say I am a retired natural hair nazi... Loved your analysis, very accurate! Wish I had your video in like 2015 lol

@ExoticalsUnited

4 ай бұрын

I am a retired natural hair nazi as well 😂

At least they didn’t use relaxer

And the product junkie obsession

Facts

Basically we gotta get to a better place, honestly these woman are JUST JEALOUS AND INSECURE

Every single race in every single variation of color, the majority of people from 100 years ago, even Wanted, whatever wavy or curly One at the Text or just a little straighter before the hot comb family member iron out the hair and that’s just our history where it started who knows but from England to America, white or black, they all did it

I’m glad it failed, and I hope it doesn’t come back. 😊

@sephorafuller.k

3 ай бұрын

You hate yourself 😂

@MsGemini777

3 ай бұрын

Silly, I’m natural and I’m glad it failed. Bi-racial women should not be the representation for black women. The natural hair community was created by Black American women and non-black and biracial women hijacked the movement so fuck them and you. Create your own Wave and stop riding ours. Period