I have been closely following the RK588 devices as they have come out and think that in the absence of the AMLogic S908X SOC, essentially being stop gapped with the A311D2, as seen on the Vim4, this SOC is going to really set the cat amongst the pigeons and when it gets to gaming handhelds, could be quite the winner in the lower/middle end of the market. The one thing that could hold it back is pricing. Some of these early devices are getting into Intel/AMD mini pc territory, where the versatility of x86 will often be more preferable. As things stand, the Radxa Rock 5 board seems to offer the best value, although not actually released yet, so Mekotronics may well have some stiff competition. I was glad to see you test Kodi and considering that it will not be optimised for this SOC at all yet, the playback looked impressive for what was selected. The jump from RK3399 to this is giant and could be a huge seller. The biggest surprise with this is that out of the box it seems to do everything very well, which is almost unheard of in the AMLogic/Rockchip/Allwinner sphere of products. Linux is unlikely to get native GPU support because w are dealing with a Mali GPU, who do not tend to release open source drivers, so the panfrost development would have to be the way forward. Some boards will come with the ability to add an NVME SSD. My next purchase is definitely going to have an RK3588. It is just what form it will be that has yet to be decided. Going back to a Pi after using this must feel such a backward step. Mekotronics should add standard pricing to their site so everybody can know what they can get for their money.

@leepspvideo

2 жыл бұрын

Loads of great information. You really have been studying sbc’s. 👍🏻👍🏻

thanks for the excellent review, very interesting SoC

Ha! I was just looking at buying something with the RK3588 chip. I was looking at preordering the ROCK5 Model B from Ameridroid, but this looks promising as well.

@auto117666

2 жыл бұрын

After some review, I went with the ROCK5 since the $50 coupon (that you have to purchase for $5), lowered the cost down to about $130 total. It is still on preorder so it will ship hopefully soon... It was somewhat hard to compare costs since the Mekotronics model reviewed includes a case, a power supply, a remote control, etc... Most of that I do not need.

My interest in Android as a Desktop has been growing. With more powerful ARM SBC's becoming available, I think it is just a matter of time before this becomes the default choice for the majority, especially since so many already use Android on their phone.

RK3588 is the best SBC/SOM SoC at the moment it seems!

@Harmonic_Glow

2 жыл бұрын

Dunno the LX2160A seems like it has some beefy performance and you can use an amd GPU

Oooh, test vids ... noooice! 😉

I have a Beelink GT King and I'm happy with what I have.

I've been putting off buying my one on Ameridroid because I'm unemployed ... but should I jump on it now?

interesting device. personally i always wonder with these chinese soc arm apus what is the ground truth situation in regards to upstream kernel contributions to support that chip. because most of the time we see the company maintaining a seperate fork of the kernel (for example like odroid, where typically its kerne forks are all being published up on github). this then has to be maintained ad infinitum due to gpl license incompatibility, or whatever other reasons not all of their kernel patchsets are not get upstreamed? at least i would like to know more about this. because an ongoing kernel support is necessary for other features in linux, for example other types of features which are not specific to the soc itself. but which are required to run specific softwares for the android remote (with air mouse)... i recommend to try out the pepper jobs w10 gyro. unfortunately they have not updated this remote for a very long time. they said on their forum they are working on a 2nd version. it just does not appear yet? the thing is the original 1st w10 gyro remote (despite being quite good in many respects)... it still has a couple of drawbacks that needs to be improved upon.

can i run 4k60fps youtube videos but on the browser ? i assume it will drop frames

When you send Mekotronics an email, they can send you a link for Debian and other images. You will need to connect it to a Windows PC to write the image. I even managed to almost brick the board, but there is even a rescue procedure.

@leepspvideo

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, they said they were working on GPU acceleration for Debian and Ubuntu. 👍🏼

@LivingLinux

2 жыл бұрын

@@leepspvideo The Debian image I have now is still work in progress. Perhaps they want a more polished image for you as a reviewer. You can also look at the YT channel of Michael Wang. I think he is one of the employees.

@willgilliam9053

2 жыл бұрын

@@leepspvideo hope board isnt an antique when they get it done

@mridontclickbaitftw4366

2 жыл бұрын

@@leepspvideo there is no GPU acceleration for ubuntu on the rk3588??? I thought that was the main point of this chip!!

@jakenigel7871

2 жыл бұрын

Does the remote control the comes with the Box turn the box off and on.

Makes me really tempted by there board up on crowd supply 269 USD gets you a lot

Very good. Could you test performance for a M.2 drive / SATA drive / M.2 drive + SATA drive together? What about bandwidth of the USB 3 ports in real life?

@cyberpunk6812

2 жыл бұрын

What version m. 2 nvme slot? It is 2280? What about pcie version?

I ordered the same board as you use, you are allowed to purchase 1 sample board… Waiting for it to be sent now 😉

@bobcrocky

2 жыл бұрын

It’s been sent, should be here about Wed 😉

@bobcrocky

2 жыл бұрын

It has left Botany and Customs Sydney… Down to Melbourne 😉

@SchoolforHackers

2 жыл бұрын

Hmm. I’d like to see your impressions too. Might be time to dust off the channel ;)

I am doing a KZread presentation on Linux, Android and single board computers in Japan. I wanted to introduce a game emulator in my review of the R58 mini PC, but as I didn't have the BIOS ready, I would like to use some of your excellent videos.

@leepspvideo

Жыл бұрын

As long as you mention my channel I am happy for you to show some of my video in your presentation

@PC-FREEDOM

Жыл бұрын

@@leepspvideo Thank you! Very helpful! I always look forward to watching your videos!

Any idea what’s the limit capacity storage for the M.2 on this R58X?

@leepspvideo

Жыл бұрын

I don’t know. If it’s not listed on the info page try emailing mekotronics

It would be great to get Google ChromeOS to work on this device.

defo want one be good if you can install full android or other os,s

What do you think about the H96 Max V58 in comparation with this model?

@leepspvideo

Жыл бұрын

Hard to say without trying it. The RK3588 is a great cpu. It doesn’t mention compatibility with other operating systems like Ubuntu or Debian

How this performs with wine? I'd love to see another video where you run Crysis on this little thing.

@monkapie2594

2 жыл бұрын

there are no panfrost mesa drivers or mainline kernel support for this device yet,we are running mali vendor blob's right now on a rockchip kernel that means we only have opengl-es on linux so box86/64 with wine will not work,it will take a lot of time until rk3588 get support on mainline

Hi, I am interested in this great android TV alternatives, having search high and low for better nVidia Shield alternative, can I know where can I purchase 1 of this? Thank you in advance.

@leepspvideo

2 жыл бұрын

mekotronics.en.made-in-china.com

Have any of you tried HDMI video capture? 1080p 60fps?

@leepspvideo

Жыл бұрын

I tried capturing in on of my Mekotronics videos not sure if I mentioned the resolution In this playlist kzread.info/head/PLMJAjiTgBtFn1PN_DZA1SEe6qzGUjHOn0

what about mainline linux kernel support for rk3588 soc?

@leepspvideo

Жыл бұрын

No, 5.10 at the moment. Hopefully in the future as there are so many devices

Video Chanel NicoD's SBC showt a RK58X PRO. Do you no this one?

@leepspvideo

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I have been sent one. I mentioned it in a community post. I have done part of a video.

@martinjbernart4699

Жыл бұрын

Looking forward to seeing the video. (As always).

lots of buzz for this chipset and there is surely reasons behind it its really powerful everyone is praising it

Bro, can you test how much max write / read speed on m.2 nvme slot? Can you use m.2 nvme 1 TB (2280)?

@leepspvideo

2 жыл бұрын

I can’t at the moment I’m using my nvme with something else. Try contacting Mekotronics www.mekotronics.com/h-col-102.html

@cyberpunk6812

2 жыл бұрын

@@leepspvideo its m.2 nvme pcie slot or m.2 sata slot?

@leepspvideo

2 жыл бұрын

@@cyberpunk6812 Emmc5.1, SDIO3.0, M.2 PCIE 3.0, SATA 3.0 7pin*2 Full specs here www.mekotronics.com/h-pd-54.html#_pp=104_370

Does the remote that comes with the Box turn it off and on. I believe it's 2.4 wireless and not infrared.

@leepspvideo

2 жыл бұрын

I haven’t tried to power it off with the remote. I usually use a controller or mouse/ keyboard. It’s not infra red.

@jakenigel7871

2 жыл бұрын

That's what I was wondering about is if you can turn the box on with the remote because it doesn't have infrared.

@jhyog

Жыл бұрын

@@jakenigel7871 it's only possible to wake from standby mode with the remote. To power it back on you'll have to unplug/plug the ac.

Would a fan be better to use then a heat sink? If yes how do I go about adding a fan

@leepspvideo

Жыл бұрын

I found the heatsink to be very effective. I also really like silent cooling.

@GrandMasterLynx

Жыл бұрын

@@leepspvideo Sounds good thanks for the info

Faster than a light

Hi. Can I watch Netflix in dolby vision and dolby atmos with these ?

@leepspvideo

2 жыл бұрын

I’m not sure

@jhyog

Жыл бұрын

No Netflix support due to lack of widevine

Can a Mekotronics pc run Batocera Linux?

@leepspvideo

Жыл бұрын

I haven’t seen a version ported. This will work and perform better on RK3588 Daijishō emulator front end. Orange Pi 5. kzread.info/dash/bejne/lp-a1smIpKTPaJs.html

Temperature range minus 40 to plus 80 wow. Can be use in hard environment.

@jhyog

Жыл бұрын

The cpu of my r58x peaks 85 celsius... kzread.info/dash/bejne/on2FsM2Ld6WZkps.html

Can this realistically be run from a battery pack?

@leepspvideo

2 жыл бұрын

Its 12V 3A. Yes it can, but it will use 36W. A Pi 4 uses 18W so half.

What launcher did you use there?

@leepspvideo

2 жыл бұрын

Win 11 Launcher play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.real.launcher.wp.ten This is also a good desktop for android Dex on a Pi 400…. Sort of. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ep-BpJWHiLCqctY.html

@ByteBanditBob

2 жыл бұрын

@@leepspvideo thanks!

Can this be used as a Plex media server? Cheers

@leepspvideo

2 жыл бұрын

This should work fine play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.plexapp.mediaserver.smb&gl=GB

How to order that SBC ? i went to their website but I couldn't order it. thnx

@leepspvideo

Жыл бұрын

mekotronics.en.made-in-china.com

@Martin-ot7xj

Жыл бұрын

@@leepspvideo can we buy one of those and make it as a router? thnx

@leepspvideo

Жыл бұрын

@@Martin-ot7xj not easily

so can it do H256 encoding?

@leepspvideo

2 жыл бұрын

From the website Video Decoder * Real-time video decoder of MPEG-1, MPEG-2, MPEG-4, H.263, H.264, H.265, VC-1, VP9, VP8, MVC, AV1 * MMU Embedded * Multi-channel decoder in parallel for less resolution * H.264 AVC/MVC Main10 L6.0 : 8K@30fps (7680x4320) * VP9 Profile0/2 L6.1 : 8K@60fps (7680x4320) * H.265 HEVC/MVC Main10 L6.1 : 8K@60fps (7680x4320) * AVS2 Profile0/2 L10.2.6 : 8K@60fps (7680x4320) * AV1 Main Profile 8/10bit L5.3 : 4K@60fps (3840x2160) * MPEG-2 up to MP: 1080p@60fps (1920x1088) * MPEG-1 up to MP: 1080p@60fps (1920x1088) * VC-1 up to AP level 3: 1080p@60fps (1920x1088) * VP8 version2 : 1080p@60fps (1920x1088) Video Encoder * Real-time H.265/H.264 video encoding * Support up to 8K@30fps * Multi-channel encoder in parallel for less resolution

@another3997

2 жыл бұрын

It usually makes far more sense to look on the product website, rather than ask in the KZread comments section.

Can you send me a link how much i want to buy one right now

@leepspvideo

2 жыл бұрын

You can contact them here www.mekotronics.com/h-pd-54.html#_pp=104_370

@shanefrench3447

2 жыл бұрын

Such a weird way to buy from china will they be on Amazon or ebay when is the official release date also is the 16ram version available yet

@leepspvideo

2 жыл бұрын

@@shanefrench3447 I’m not sure.

Price?

@leepspvideo

2 жыл бұрын

Toms hardware mentioned $169 for the smaller board in this article. www.tomshardware.com/uk/news/raspberry-pi-alternative-mekotronics-r58-revealed

Ha Leeps i saw your your reflection on the screen

@mando7558

2 жыл бұрын

I really do like your content and learned a lot from you. Keep up the good work!!!

How much

@leepspvideo

Жыл бұрын

Link to the mekotronics site in the description

Looks nice but what I miss is the price.

@AndrewTSq

2 жыл бұрын

249 USD from my understanding. So to no interest for me at that price.

@LivingLinux

2 жыл бұрын

@@AndrewTSq They also have the R58 (without the X) and it starts at $189.

@another3997

2 жыл бұрын

@@LivingLinux I'm a big fan of ARM CPUs, but unfortunately, unless you have a specific need for a brand new ARM powered device, this is too close to low end x86 prices. At this level, x86 definitely has more grunt, not to mention better graphics support in Linux and Windows. ARM devices certainly win in terms of power consumption, but that's not so much of an issue in a mains powered device (or larger form factor devices with big batteries, as with most laptops).

@LivingLinux

2 жыл бұрын

@@another3997 ARM has decent graphics support in Android and things are improving in Linux. For me it's not just what is the most cost effective now, but also where I want to be in the future. I don't mind spending a bit more and helping the community to get the most out of ARM. But I'm also looking at RISC-V.

Be aware that this chip does not support hardware HEVC streaming

@leepspvideo

Жыл бұрын

It’s listed in the docs www.cnx-software.com/pdf/Rockchip%C2%A0RK3588%C2%A0Datasheet%C2%A0V0.1-20210727.pdf

Computer Mobile anio Tablet Laptop Wirelessly Docking station aino

@abinaslimbu3057

2 жыл бұрын

Video game Concle

I have question: 1) Prize? 2) what is this windows like launcher you use? observation: could be a good gamecapture and streaming computer maybe. I'm impressed!

@leepspvideo

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t do competitions on KZread. I don’t want to break any rules I preferred this interface for Android Dex on a Pi 400…. Sort of. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ep-BpJWHiLCqctY.html

@LivingLinux

2 жыл бұрын

I guess you want to know the price. $249 (without shipping/taxes) for the base model (4GB mem, 32GB storage). When you don't need the second ethernet port and internal m2 slot, you can also go for the R58 for $170 (without shipping/taxes) and that one has an external SATA connector and IR port.

@leepspvideo

2 жыл бұрын

@@LivingLinux 🤣 I guess it was price

Too bad the raspberry pi foundation wont use rocketchip chips - for political reasons.

@pengwan703

Жыл бұрын

不要命了？！

Its GARBAGE. HDMI input does not support most inputs including Playstation. Do not buy

No price = No interest.

@AndrewTSq

2 жыл бұрын

a google of the unit told me $249,

@another3997

2 жыл бұрын

Is it really beyond your capabilities to have a look on the web for current prices? Prices frequently fluctuate, and they vary from region to region anyway. 🙄

@LivingLinux

2 жыл бұрын

You can buy it for $210 (excluding shipping/taxes) at made-in-china webshop. I don't put the URL here, as a URL can trigger the YT spam filter.

@AndrewTSq

2 жыл бұрын

@@LivingLinux I still think its too expensive for what you get even at $210. I am waiting for the next gen Nvidia Jetson Nano instead.

@LivingLinux

2 жыл бұрын

@@AndrewTSq I think the Jetson Nano is not aimed at the media and Android market. When Nvidia will release it with only A5X cores, you really are dependent on the CUDA cores and drivers (you can forget about mainline Linux support) for good performance. The Mekotronics has 4 A76 and 4 A55 cores, a HDMI In port and comes standard in an enclosure. You can also opt for the R58, that drops the m2 slot and the second ethernet port at $170.

Hello look firefly RK 3588 639k in antutu

howdy lee please check your discord i have some stuff for your mekotronics board :) ,greetings monka and have a nice day

@leepspvideo

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. 👍🏻👍🏻