For my long range shooting in this video, I think people should get a context to how hollow point ammo in this .380 ACP pistol normally shoots. So here's the last video I did with .380 ACP long range, pinned time: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZWSG0NujYsSueaw.html

@kentwilliams3326

7 ай бұрын

Wait 'til you test Underwood's Extreme Defender in .380! It'll be amazing!

I’m wondering how this Aguila .22 LR stacks up against the Federal Punch .22 LR

My favorite test so far. This makes my tx 22c a legit carry pistol if the interceptor cycles ok. A lot of people were waiting for this .22 test. 😊👍

@GunSam

7 ай бұрын

Well, I mean, this had like 12 more ft lbs energy than the other best/most powerful rounds like CCI stinger or Federal Punch. I am not sure that makes it legit and those not so much. That being said, the energy for what it is, isn't bad compared to like a .25 ACP.

@hoffpbass

7 ай бұрын

99% of 22LR cycles in a TX22.

Ive shot so many different kinds of 22lr ammo at the range. I instantly knew after shooting the aguila interceptors they were the most powerful 22lr ive shot out of my tx22. Those rounds have the most bang and recoil out of any other 22lr round. Thats why my tx22 is loaded with them as we speak

@tom_thebomb

Ай бұрын

Same here!

LOVE the 22 Videos, as I am cheap and shoot it most, hard ta beat 6 cents a round. Just got a 6.5" Rough Rider for $99.99 new from Bass Pro.🇺🇲

@GunSam

7 ай бұрын

Surprisingly I get a lot of hate for doing .22 content. But I enjoy it, and especially if some people like it, that's enough for me. My Rough Rider was like $180 with the two cylinders. $100 is a good deal seeing as the cylinder for magnum can be bought for like $30

@jamesgloriod7195

7 ай бұрын

You get hate for .22 content? Who are these weirdos? You have a great mix/balance of content- don't change a thing!

Hello Gun Sam, thank you for all you do to keep us up-to-date on the always ever-changing ammo scene. Please keep the videos comin' at us! 👍

Another great video! I do think that doing the majority of your .380 tests from an LCP sized pistol will give the most accurate results for the vast majority of .380 carrying/using viewers. Keep up the good work!

@GunSam

7 ай бұрын

Thanks. I was using nothing but the LCP for a long time. Every single video, like 20 people would complain that my test was not valid because "no one" uses an LCP size gun. Then I started doing the tests with this pistol, and people start saying no one uses guns like this. I find it hard to please everyone.

Awesome Test

GS. Another good video and interesting comparison. I also appreciate your commentary/insight on the various ammos. Take care.

@GunSam

7 ай бұрын

Thank you. Take care. I honestly never intended on commentary, but all the sudden I just started sharing what I though, off the cuff and people seem to like it. No fresher time in my mind than as I am doing it, taking an overview mentally while I shoot the steel

@bobcatforever3485

7 ай бұрын

@@GunSam Your commentary is much appreciated. Have a great weekend.

Always appreciate the enlightenment.....

Excellent & I do believe the 75 yard tests tell us important information like the I INSTABILITY OF FMJ vs. HOLLOWPOINT EVEN IF IT DOESN’T EXPAND! Thanks for your tests and evaluations.

Thanks for that commentary.

Thanks, Sam! The smallest caliber I sometimes carry is a Smith & Wesson J-frame in 32 H&R Magnum. I use that when I have my seatbelt on, and it inhibits me from easily getting to my Glock 32c.

Key takeaway from all this is ammo choice and shot placement are everything

@GunSam

7 ай бұрын

Ammo choice mostly I would say. Shot placement is a thing, but it's a basic thing all calibers need and most people with most calibers would make a good shot. I am not sure 'better' shot placement can make a huge difference in stopping a threat, but it would appear ammo choice is more of a tangible thing. There's actual stats on calibers and load choices.

@MrJdebest

7 ай бұрын

I use a statement like this all the time. In the 70s and 80s, most thought that there was big caliber that had 1 shot stops. We all knew that it's not true. A mid size center fire caliber with good ammunition, property placed is the closest you can get, even then, there are exceptions.

@GunSam

7 ай бұрын

@@MrJdebest My main point is a lot of people tell me if a handgun is of even medium caliber, a person will automatically "miss" but with a .22 they will hit - which makes no sense at all. I know what they are trying to say, that if a person has zero experience they probably will miss a follow up shot with a very heavy recoiling round (to them) like .357 Mag but with a .22 they could hit with follow up shots. My response to them is if their ability is that bad, that there's a lot more to think about or worry about than the tiny extra recoil of a .380 ACP or 9mm.

@MrJdebest

7 ай бұрын

@GunSam I agree with what you have said here. People have to make an investment in time and training to become proficient with a firearm. I believe that back in the revolver days, a local armored car company would train new employees for 1 week on the range, expending several hundred rounds to get them up to qualification standards.

@terrywadsworth5645

7 ай бұрын

​@GunSam There seems to be a contingent of commenters that believe that shot placement is the only thing that counts and that a..22lr is about as good as anything else. They also believe spine and brain shots are easily attained for those who are good at shot placement. They don't realize that doesn't apply to a self defense situation where the target is shooting back. Having been shot at many times,I can tell you that acquiring the front sight and pulling the trigger is about all that you can hope for. With the adrenaline dump and the fact that sleazoids are actively trying to delete you,precision shooting is in the toilet. Front sight. Center mass.Press.That's it. Of course rinse and repeat as required. 😮. Fortunately,simply presenting your firearm will usually persuade the typical thug to change zipcodes as you mentioned before menacing your camera. Thanks for your research and work put into your videos.

All guns considered, and all brands considered, hollow points are more likely to misfeed. This is why these specific tests are so crucial. For me, the 88 grain Remington JHP is the best choice, even though it fails to expand most of the time. It has a small hollow point cavity, so it feeds like a RNFMJ. Thanks for testing that Aguila .380. I had never taken a shot with it past 10 yards, but now I might have to try it. Paper targets, of course.

@GunSam

7 ай бұрын

I felt the same way about that Remington ammo when I would run JHP in my Ruger LCP. It was the only round that never malfunctioned mostly due to nose design but also the power level was mild enough to cycle correctly.

@bovineexcrement8635

7 ай бұрын

revolvers RULES

good test! thanks Sam

Amazing test Sam...either of these rounds would serve well for self-protection. I'd like to get some Auguila Intercepter myself...but my dealers don't have any. :>/

@isaaccutlip5815

7 ай бұрын

They have it at sportsman warehouse if you have one nearby

Very interesting!

if I had to choose it would be 22lr , low recoil higher capacity... 38 special 158gr all day long except for 357magnum 158gr

Now I'm curious as to a match-up between the Aguila Interceptor and the Federal Punch .22lr rounds. Have you considered doing one yet? Anyhow, great video as usual... did you lose some weight? 🙂

@GunSam

7 ай бұрын

I have not really lost any weight. I have tested the Punch but in a different test.

@mkshffr4936

14 күн бұрын

Interceptor HP v.s. Interceptor Solid. 😇

That's the most powerful 22lr ammo I've seen so far. Great video. For the .380 auto, I'd opt for flat-nosed, extreme cavitator, or extreme penetrator rounds from Lehigh Defense to kinda lessen the overpenetration. Great comparison.

@GunSam

7 ай бұрын

The Fiocchi Defense Dynamics JHP is about the best ammo I have seen that is a mild expanding, adequate penetrating cheap ammo that's cheap enough to practice with. At least in this pistol.

I really enjoy the .22 - .380 comparisons. Personally I've had less than stellar performance from Aguila, however, I am aware that many people stand by it.

That's pretty darn good accuracy from the Aguila.

@GunSam

7 ай бұрын

My guess is that at range, that little extra power pushes it's "veer off threshold" further out. While 12 ft lbs would be quite literally nothing ballistic wise on let's say a .45 ACP, on a .22 caliber 40 gr bullet it's as Paul would say "A LOT More".

@Fudmottin

7 ай бұрын

@@GunSam I wanted to get into ELR shooting. The problem is, I don't have any place I can shoot beyond 500 meters. However, if you scale down to 22LR, 500 meters is extreme long range. I think the Ruger 10/22 can handle that. I just have to see how the Interceptor compares to the Velocitor. As far as handguns go, I have the 22LR adaptor for my 92A1 and a Ruger KMK512. It would be interesting to try those on the 100 meter range.

Águila 🦅

WWII trivia for you, Sam: there was a wartime run of .22 FMJ for pilots survival kits, because we were very conscientious about following the Hague and Geneva conventions.

@GunSam

7 ай бұрын

Interesting. I never knew about them. I wonder if they were slightly undersized bullets. Trying to squeeze a copper jacket down a bore with that 1 gr of powder seems like it could have trouble.

@lanedexter6303

7 ай бұрын

Not sure. Just a silly expenditure to make sure we followed all the rules and no Japanese could accuse us of “dum dum” bullets - as if they followed the rules.@@GunSam

@GunSam

7 ай бұрын

@@lanedexter6303 Yeah, I know .22 LR solid is one of the ones that will mushroom. That's why I call nonsense when people tell me the .22 LR is the most deadly self defense cartridge as it "bounces around" in a body. A mushrooming bullet with almost no energy is the least likely to do that. What I think they are doing is taking the fact that a .22 LR can enter a skull, flatten against the rear of the skull and follow it's path downward, more or less do a 90 degree turn, and mixing that with other random information like how the .556 tumbles and come up with a random falsehood.

@lanedexter6303

7 ай бұрын

@@GunSam Most likely. The .22 is what it is. I don’t romanticize it.

My connect rate at 50 yds with my gen 1 LCP .380 is about 30%. That’s 2 scorable hits on a B27 target out of 7, standing at 50 yards with a LCP. So don’t feel bad. Think I hit the paper a total of 4 times but only 2 were scoreable. Go to 5” (9mm ball) and 90% are scoreable. Length does make a difference.

Wow, never knew that they would have a 10 foot spread at distance. That’s crazy

I don’t know if I agree with you as far as stopping power, but based on this test, I would much rather be able to hit the target. 😀

👍

22 plinkster has a video you may like, I think your subbed but if not it's CCI uppercut 32 grain defense ammo claimed to be for pistol barrels, a actual jacketed hollow point rather then the thin copper wash we have with all 22 rounds, it goes through 2 2x4 boards, maybe 8-10 inches in gel, full expansion and visible wound track

@GunSam

6 ай бұрын

I watched part of it. He has an inside source as it's not available yet. I plan to test it when I can acquire it.

@libra7624

6 ай бұрын

Should be some fun test ideas@@GunSam

👍😊one thing is could you paint the 🎯 after the closeup to the distance shooting, just a thought.

@GunSam

7 ай бұрын

I almost always do, but in warmer weather. Once it gets to this time of year, while the time I paint it when I arrive in the woods till I initially shoot it 20 minutes later is fine, painting it after the closeup means one of two things; sitting for 15 minutes waiting for it to dry, or shooting it right away and not having as good of effect of the paint staying on it where it wasn't shot. In warmer weather the paint dries well enough in 5 minutes or so to realistically do this.

@chrisgabbert658

7 ай бұрын

@@GunSam you ever think of doing a from loading the ride to setup and shooting to loaded back up. I figure several hours for a edited 20 minute video .

@GunSam

7 ай бұрын

@@chrisgabbert658 I have thought about it for my patreons. But, really, fiddling with the shed door at my parent's property, screaming at the ATV when it spins it's tires on the hill, breathing heavy when a tripod part breaks, is what you might see. Not sure anyone wants to see that.

@chrisgabbert658

7 ай бұрын

@@GunSam you can voice over the video show a time line with fast forward and editing. I’m keyboard easy talk I’m not doing the work.

You will be surprised whenever you test Underwood's Extreme Defender in 9mm (90 & 68 grain) and .380 ACP 65 grain. Amazing actually...

@GunSam

7 ай бұрын

When? lol. Love the assumptions I get like this as they are even dumber when the footage of MYSELF testing the exact same thing exists.

Aguila seems to always mislabel their rated velocity, or must be firing it out of a non-standard gun length and other conditions.

@Kelly-oq9nh

7 ай бұрын

The advertise velocity on the box is from a rifle.

🤔 what about 380 vs 22 federal punch or maybe even the 22lr copper? I mean if you can find it that is, I have only been able to find 1 box of the copper 22 and 1 of the punch 22.

I believe you should have used a federal punch flat for the .22

People need to look at Alternate look at Stopping Power FAILURE rates regarding pocket tiny calibers. People doubt Marshall's/Sanow data but I don't think anyone completely dismisses Greg Ellifritz data. A Good amount have even taken .22s to the heart chatty w emt etc end up dying but they weren't Stopped for over 10 minutes a tiny leaker. SAM can you provide website link to the penetration

@GunSam

7 ай бұрын

www.chuckhawks.com/subscribers/tables_charts_lists_page/handgun_power_chart_exp.htm

What’s better 9 mm out of a pistol or .22 lr out of a rifle?

From your experience what is your most accurate round at 20-25 yards?

So, Velocitors are the Aguila’s nearest competitor would you say? I love my Velocitors.

@GunSam

7 ай бұрын

I believe velocity ratings-wise, it's about the same weight and velocity, maybe 5 FPS difference in rating if I recall. The issue is the Velocitor is hard to find anywhere. There is a lot more Aguila Interceptor floating around out there, but a lot of retailers don't carry it - the ones that do carry it have mass quantities of it.

People have been trying to distill ballistics down to a couple of short summary statements for a very long time. They still try. It's just not possible. If I had $5 for every ballistics cliche statement I've heard and read....

@GunSam

7 ай бұрын

Yeah, it's difficult. The most you can say is that certain characteristics like energy over 400 ft lbs, or major energy dump, tend to stop threats faster on average. But while that is totally true, someone comes along and tells me a story about a guy taking twelve shots of .357 Magnum and it not stopping them etc etc. I don't think there's one characteristic that is the end all either, as .45 ACP with the right load seems to be very effective too, at just 800 FPS. But the loads in .45 ACP that do well for stopping percentages share the energy dump thing, if the bullet penetrates anywhere from 10" to 13" it tends to rank over 90% one shot stop. I been watching a lot of the police encounter videos and what I see too much is 9mm not working, so it usually takes like 15 shots from multiple officers to stop a threat. The dozen or so I have seen and confirmed were .40 S&W tended to have the officers firing like 3 times slower, but the fight ending in typically 2 shots. I have only seen one video with .357 Sig which worked the best I have ever seen, but being one example and being like, heart shot dead on - I have to throw that one out. Not having a perfect answer is great for me though, as I can keep doing what I do for as long as I want lol. I can only currently suggest what I think will work the best - that is energy over 400 ft lbs, or bullet designed to expand huge in 13" of gel, or super fast velocity well over 1,250 FPS. All those seem to have some of the characteristics of a good stopper, have all three and you got a really good choice.

@exothermal.sprocket

7 ай бұрын

@@GunSam Reminds me of Paul Harrell's talks and what he refers to as the "yeah-but brigade" and the "just-as-powerful-as" people. Hahaha I suppose people who understand the subject pretty well could spend a thousand years (if it were possible to live that long and America stayed free that long) correcting people online of the shallow statements about ballistics and maybe it wouldn't affect the system all that much in a positive way. Truth is, we do this stuff because we like it, we are nerdy about it, we are somewhat obsessive over nuance and detail, and it's gratifying. Thanks for the content over the years. I consider your channel one of the most objective in testing factory ammunition with most common handgun types. You don't really care what the outcome is, you just care to find the facts of the matter even if they are very unconventional and unpopular.

@Kelly-oq9nh

7 ай бұрын

@@GunSamAgree. Well said Sam

@kirkmooneyham

7 ай бұрын

@@GunSam, I am reminded about a WWII book I read once. The GIs were pushing the Germans back at the Battle of the Bulge. They were moving up in a column across a snowy hill, and German artillery was just randomly hitting near them. Not close enough to blow anyone up at all, just in the general vicinity. Anyway, all the sudden, a Captain just fell down. Several guys starting looking for a bullet hole, couldn't find one. They unbuttoned his coat and after searching closely, found a tiny blood spot on his shirt...and it had come from an equally tiny hole in his chest, right from the heart. An almost insignificant piece of shrapnel from one of those artillery blasts had killed the man, a piece so small that at first, they couldn't even find any wound. So, a human being might take 12 shots of .357 and live...or a tiny splinter of steel and die. It would seem that wound ballistics only has general rules, not ironclad ones.

PizzA

Question guys. How do these stack up against the high velocity CCI Stinger? Or even the CCI Velocitar?

@GunSam

27 күн бұрын

Funny you should ask. I have a box each of Velocitor and these Interceptors sitting, ready for a test. I am testing them in the TX22 probably in about a week, video might not be out for another week and a half or so. But, considering I tested the Velocitor yesterday in a rifle and was averaging only 1,300 FPS out of it's 1,435 FPS rated, I am predicting that these Interceptors will do better. Edit - btw the ones I plan to test soon are hollow points, as where these were round nose.

@GunSam

27 күн бұрын

Stingers in a pistol aren't nearly as good as people would have you believe. They are basically the same energy as typical .22 LR ammo, did the same thing from a pistol a typical .22 LR round does, not expand and barely penetrate enough.

I swear Agulia ammo is made in a Hookah Lounge -- its so smokey and has a unique smell 😂

Somebody told me the interceptor will BREAK my handgun. Is it true?

@GunSam

27 күн бұрын

Depends on your handgun lol. If I had like a zinc cast Phoenix arms or something like that, i'd avoid them. But in a modern .22 pistol, I cannot imagine them breaking anything, especially if you don't shoot a lot of them.

@gerardosalas9477

15 күн бұрын

@@GunSam I have a Ruger SR22, I’ve only had it for a few months and I have used interceptors occasionally, I don’t think they’ll harm the gun but idk

Come on Sam?the numbers don't increase as shot count?I gotta here this....

@GunSam

6 ай бұрын

You will have to be specific with questions. I don't keep notes on videos I filmed some time ago.

Federal punch.22 destroys the Aguila interceptor

@GunSam

7 ай бұрын

Destroys how? The Federal Punch in my TX22 was 29 gr @ 1,189 FPS/91 ft lbs and penetrated to 15" in plain gel. With denim/MDF the Punch also got 15" of penetration. The Aguila Interceptor LRN in my TX22 was 40 gr @ 1,075 FPS/103 ft lbs and penetrated to 13.75" in plain gel. With denim/MDF the Aguila Interceptor got 16" of penetration. The average penetration of the Punch was 15" and the average penetration of the Aguila was 14.875". The Aguila had 12 more ft lbs energy, which expressed through a .22 caliber bullet, is quite a lot more. Again, not sure how the Punch "destroys" the Aguila Interceptor.

@jasonrebello5630

7 ай бұрын

@GunSam I guess I'm not really talking about actual scientific numbers and calculations...I'm just going based on my use of both rounds in different pistols and rifles and in my case, the Punch was more reliable, more accurate and more generally consistent. I wasn't dogging on your testing or conclusions

@GunSam

7 ай бұрын

@@jasonrebello5630I never really saw much difference in reliability or performance. That being said, in a much smaller pistol I think the Punch would be more reliable. In a pistol that eats everything like my TX22, all the ballistics favor the Aguila a bit.

@jasonrebello5630

7 ай бұрын

@GunSam I generally use a Ruger SR22 and there's a few different ammo types that it really chokes on...the Punch is the only one I've had 0 issues with

I also dont agree with the .380 fmj is ths same as a hollow point that doesnt exoand crowd. An unexpanded hollow point will still do more damage than round nose because of its shape. Its more like a flat tip. Also with a hollow point the base of the bullet being heavier than the front makes it likely to yaw or tumble. I saw a video of a guy shot with a .380. Gang member 300 plus pounds over 6 feet tall. Another gang member shot him in the belly with a .380. It made him bend over . When he bent over the guy shot him in the top of the head and went from top of skull to throat area. DRT. The hollow point bullet to the belly didnt expand until it hit his spine (making him bend over instantly ). The coroner had to use pliers to pull hollow point stuck in spine. Bullet hit his spine and expanded and stuck in spine. They were both lethal shots. Hollow points did their job. FMJ is round and bounces of bones more often than hollow points.