I’m a 60 year old woman and mine is 36.5. Trying to get it higher!

@-astrangerontheinternet6687

Ай бұрын

You’re awesome 👏🏻 Hope it’s going well.

It's about the mitochondria. The more and healthier mitochondria you have - more oxygen you can use and more energy to produce.

@margottfon330

8 ай бұрын

Maybe, and I've CFS.. Chronic Fatigue Syndrome... they suspect it's mitochondria problem, but can't solve..

@LisaMarieAdams

7 ай бұрын

So is there a way to multiply or improve the health of your mitochondria?

@alexforce9

7 ай бұрын

@@LisaMarieAdams Yes. Exercising multiply the number , some nutrients improve the health - zinc, selenium, magnesium, omega 3, b vitamins, vit c, q10.

@skyhappy

6 ай бұрын

​@@alexforce9 Stop spreading BS goddamn. The guy is talking about oxygen capacity not mitochondria.

@alexforce9

6 ай бұрын

@@skyhappy wtf do you mean oxygen capacity? Oxygen capacity of what? Where do you think the burning of energy happens in the body?

The fitter you are, the healthier you are, groundbreaking stuff

@rockyblumble

11 ай бұрын

If it was obvious, more people would be exercising. This information clearly still needs to be spread

@adrianmasters250

11 ай бұрын

@@rockyblumble People know it already, they're just too lazy to do it

@mackenzieusher8025

6 ай бұрын

Pushed to the extreme, this statement may no longer be true. For example, Olympic female athletes that haven't had a menstruation cycle for months or even years. There is a lot of overlap between health and fitness, but they are still distinct elements.

@adrianmasters250

6 ай бұрын

@@mackenzieusher8025 it still applies to over 99 percent of the population, the amount of athletes who are dangerously overtrained are statistically not even worth considering here

@davidflorez1196

2 ай бұрын

Being fit and Having a VO2 max is not necessarily correlated, you can train just strength and have a low VO2 max

I am 51 years old today and my VO2 max is 51. Just walk 10 miles a day and workout 4 days a week :-)

@oolala53

7 ай бұрын

Just? I’m glad you had the time to walk 10 miles a day because that takes a few hours. It’s a good idea; it just doesn’t fit the majority of work schedules especially if someone has a family.

@atomic_poppy

6 ай бұрын

Hilarious 😂 “Just walk 10 miles a day” .. wow, your ignorance is showing.

@irishmick6709

6 ай бұрын

I'm 70 and I hike up and down hills with my Shepherd Dog 3 miles per day…..takes us one hour….way less time consuming, but I'm retired. Realistically, few people have the spare time to do this.

@martinwashington1007

5 ай бұрын

​@@atomic_poppyjust walk home work fatty, duh 😅😂

@444NRG

4 ай бұрын

bro i am 27 and my V02 max is 36 i am nervous damn..i smoke daily

If you haven’t done a Wingate 60, you should change that. Everyone should experience a Wingate and feel what really pushing max feels like. It’s suffering best experienced in a group.

@anonymousinfinido2540

Жыл бұрын

in a what?

@galiltm5168

Жыл бұрын

​@@anonymousinfinido2540 in a group....? Ever heard of group suffering? Duh

@hnr9lt-pz7bn

Жыл бұрын

What's Wingate? 😮

@anonymousinfinido2540

Жыл бұрын

@@galiltm5168 😂

@JacobyLacoby

11 ай бұрын

@@galiltm5168nah I only suffer alone here’s a quote for you “I'm absolutely, l00 percent, not guilty” -OJ

People living at high altitudes have a high VO2 max, that is because their lungs have to work much harder to extract oxygen from the atmosphere than the lungs of people who are living at the sea level. VO2 MAX goes down with an increase in altitude, hence a person's VO2 Max at higher altitude is lower than it is at the sea level.

@Pr0que

7 ай бұрын

So living in mountains is a better goal or?

@Shankar-Bhaskar

7 ай бұрын

@@Pr0que Depends on your goal. For longevity, yes.

Good information

This is really interesting thanks.

Simply learning to breathe through your nose when you exercise for up your VO 2 max. Heavy breathing pushes too much carbon dioxide out of your system. Without carbon dioxide oxygen doesn’t move around the body. Grip strength is correlated with your life expectancy too.

One important thing: more O2 capacity to fight of illness is an extremely bold claim without any direct evidence. Everything else is true, the measure is a proxy for how much exercise you do and exercise creates all these positive effects for your health. Oxygen is not the mediating factor, it’s just a proxy.

The problem with this theory is that it when you assess the populations round the world who actually live the longest and healthiest lives, they aren’t all athletes who suck down protein shakes and deadlift every week. They’re humble people who eat mostly starchy foods and do a little bit of physical activity (walking, gardening etc) each and every day. They also have strong social groups. They’re not people with high VO2 max numbers and other good ‘performance’ metrics.

@TPQ1980

7 ай бұрын

Good to know. I have terrible aerobic capacity and no social groups at all, so with luck both aspects will shorten my miserable life quickly so I don't have to live in this horrific world where the worst people are rewarded the most. If only I could get some quantification so I have an idea how much longer I have to endure living.

@oolala53

7 ай бұрын

I don’t think they do a little bit of walking. They do a fair amount and they’re quite active other ways. I’d be surprised if their VO two max was not in very good ranges for their ages. For one thing, they often live in hilly areas, so when they walk around, they’re getting quite a workout.

@bigmikem1578

7 ай бұрын

Low body mass also.

@markschultz3791

7 ай бұрын

Oh you have you a problem with Peter Attia's well established theory.

@dynamite_dynamite5954

7 ай бұрын

Agreed. Except for the “little bit of physical activity.” Those people move a lot.

My mother's never exercised in her life, and she's eaten healthy and no allergies. She's been 70 pounds overweight and 87 and not one single pill, no heart surgeries. Clean garden living.

@martinlutherkingjr.5582

10 ай бұрын

And probably different genetics than the other 8 billion people.

@richardjaffe9972

9 ай бұрын

@@martinlutherkingjr.5582on a previous podcast he stated many in the blue zone, highest rate of centenarians, don’t exercise nor diet perfectly. But they do have healthy relationships and strong sense of purpose and will to live. 😊

@JackFHerrera

9 ай бұрын

Outliers

@TighearnachuaCleirigh

8 ай бұрын

That’s because this guy is talking complete crap, exercising as much as this guy implies is extreme unnecessary stress on the body. Stress = accelerated aging, minimising stress as much as possible combined with the correct diet for humans is the key to longevity.

@richardjaffe9972

8 ай бұрын

@@TighearnachuaCleirigh granted too much exercise is not needed or good for you but I believe having enough muscle strength is necessary for a decent quality of life.

Interesting thanks

And yet someone has also said that grip strength is the highest correlated longevity indicator

@kellenscott555

Жыл бұрын

I thought this exact thing so it’s good to hear of another metric. I imagine both work off the same principle since oxygen uptake is what the muscle needs to contract (grip). Overall tho, both seem to illustrate that strong mind-body connection is key to long term health in the face of stressors.

@FlatToRentUK

Жыл бұрын

Peter has often said V02 Max has the closest correlation to longevity but strength isn't far behind. It's not strictly about grip strength but this is a proxy for overall strength.

Sleep. Diet. Oxygen. Sauna. Cold Exposure. 5 A Day. Fasting. No Sugar… There are a million so called ways to live longer… Yet I know someone who was extremely fit who collapsed and died at 50 and my girlfriends gran who is currently 97 who can walk stable, talk clearly and do maths equations within 3 seconds who has never done anything specific health wise with her life apart from no alcohol. Obviously we should cut out the bad habits: alcohol, smoking, drugs, takeaways, KFC etc.. Do the good habits: exercise daily, eat clean, keep hydrated, reduce stress etc.. But even with all the above, we should all assume that we will only live until 70, even on an extremely good diet and lifestyle. It’s a harsh reality check, but anything above that is a blessing.

@callmeqi

Жыл бұрын

It’s about healthspan, not lifespan.

@davidbooher5559

Жыл бұрын

@@callmeqi life isn’t a longevity contest. It’s about a quality life . Beth Dutton

@RHIMYM

Жыл бұрын

Moderate alcohol could have some benefits. If the other aspects of a healthy lifestyle are done of course

@daltonbrasier5491

Жыл бұрын

We should be living to 120. Seed oils, carbs, pollutants have inhibited this. Cut those three things as much as you can and you will live a much longer natural life.

@nigo-

Жыл бұрын

Not many people mention having a purpose/drive in life. Many die soon after they retire/ feel like they have served their purpose. Always have new important goals that you are striving for!

I would love it if my health plan would cover a VO two test each year. I’ve paid for it myself the last couple of years.

Mtor is more correlated with longevity. So is AMPK. So is what your overall dietary pattern.

Nice hat chris!

So the next question is, is there a tipping point where more exercise becomes detrimental. I remember an old study done on endurance athletes with the minimum criteria of at least a 100 marathons in their career. The study found fibrotic tissue and damage to the cardiac muscle of the heart in just over 50% of the athletes due to the amount of exercise they did. I think top level cyclists were similar although Miguel Indurain was found to not have any issues.

@FlatToRentUK

Жыл бұрын

I watched a Ted talk by a cardiologist called James O'Keefe on KZread where he showed this. There's a point where benefits level off and arteries start to harden. Video was called something like run for your life but not too far and at moderate intensity.

@xB0505

7 ай бұрын

The amount he recommended is nowhere near that...

@Cindy-xg6yn

6 ай бұрын

I don't think too much of anything is good for you. There are some people who are advocating sprinting rather than marathons. Short bursts of intense sprinting could help get VO2 max up and would be less taxing on your body. I personally won't be doing any marathons but I want to start sprint training. It seems sprinters have better muscle mass than regular runners too.

@Thleta

6 ай бұрын

Instances of visceral fat are higher in endurance running individuals as well over other types of athletes. Dr Sean Omara has classed this in his practice. Im convinced the only valid types of cardio are Sprinting, and other HIIT types. (Jump rope, burst cycling)

@OdysseusAres5500

6 ай бұрын

You are very, very far away from 100 marathons, mate. Any exercise you do, will be beneficial.

Good to know. I've been hoping that my terrible aerobic capacity would shorten my life and here's the confirmation. Now, can you tell me how much it effects lifespan because I'm very tired of living in this horrific world run by the worst kinds of people. Thanks.

moderation in all things... my grandfather stayed active but I doubt he ever went in a gym his whole life and lived to be 98

@aaronpage8515

Жыл бұрын

Grandpa was the exception. You’re not gonna drink and smoke your way to living to one hundred. Exercise and proper diet is the only way to a long healthy life.

@ironmonkey1512

Жыл бұрын

@@aaronpage8515 He quit smoking in his twenties. He ate good food and lived a clean life, but he didn't go overboard with exercise.

@Browny84

Жыл бұрын

People lived more active lives back in your grandpas day. He probably wasn’t the sort of guy to spend eight hours or more sitting.

@davidbooher5559

Жыл бұрын

True. It seems like whenever I see someone on tv that’s reached 100 years and up, it’s a little old lady. And I really doubt they’ve ever exercised their entire life. In the way we define “ exercise “.

@swcpugilist

Жыл бұрын

​@@davidbooher5559 It's not just what we consider "exercise" which tends to be physical activity specifically for the purpose of its benefits, but physical activity in general. Walking, household chores, etc.

I don’t completely disagree. It is a metric useful to do exactly what he says know your VO2 maximum. I’ve had it done. I feel having a good grasp on what your HRV is is also very insightful of how responsive your autonomic nervous system is. How resilient you are to stress. I like both and I am in the top 1% of people much younger than me in HRV and too 10% in VO2max. I also have a 100% sleep rating with whoop and track with a number of devices. I think several metrics are truly insightful and VO2max is one. 💪🏼

Doesn’t take long for it to go down. I was I’ll for two weeks and mine went down considerably

As I watched this, I feel very sad. I used to play three sports. I always had a stomach but I had a ton of muscle. I still have some strength but I’m way overweight out of shape. It’s very frustrating.

Interesting. I have three women in my family between the ages of 94 and 100…and non of them exercised in any kind of meaningful way.

@karlpk3907

Жыл бұрын

Genetics can overcome a lot of potential issues. My father was a long term smoker, who quit, at 60, had Type 2 diabetes, was over weight, but lived to 92. I love my father's genes almost as much a I loved my Dad, but guess what? I intend not to be fat and not have diabetes, and we will see what happens.

@Mmmmkaaay

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Genetics are powerful, for better or worse.

@JimJamRazzMaTaz

Жыл бұрын

how many in their generation did?

Oxgen intake burns calories so the more oxgen you can uptake the better your caloric burn

but there is no study where the ppl who live long have high VO2, is there?

How many 100+ year olds have sat in a care home for the last 20 years of their life barely moving? Genes and a general healthy lifestyle is what keeps people alive

@big123lak

7 ай бұрын

How many ?

Doesn't the wimhof help with vo2?

Like all things there are exceptions to this. I exercise 6 days a week, very fit. But my VO2 is considered low bc I’m on Beta Blockers

@TheSexyN3RDZ

Жыл бұрын

why are you on beta blockers

@Theonlyoneto

Жыл бұрын

@@TheSexyN3RDZ what is beta blockers

@MarcellHanson

Жыл бұрын

Yea and BB are correlated with shorter lifespan. ):

@Jona

11 ай бұрын

Weight training and cardio stuff like running is also a completely different thing from a fitness point of view

@SmartestDumbGuy

10 ай бұрын

There are exceptions to the benefits of walking and jogging. I drive my electric wheelchair for miles every morning ever since I cut off my own legs. I'm not getting any positive physical results.

Never had one at 37

60

47.5

If sugar is so bad isn’t it contradictory that athletes have the highest v02 max and therefore the strongest metric for longevity?

Pretty sure the research would say otherwise. In fact I think for both men and women, healthy hormone levels and musclemass are the biggest predictors of helathy ageing. I.e factors preventing all cause mortality.

Age is a metric more highly correlated with the length of a person's life.

Peaked at 62, but I was cycling 500km a week.

Mine is 48 ml/kg/min. 🔥

Man, oxygen is such a crazy molecule. Need it to live but it's so reactive it can also do a lot of damage.

I remember doing the 20m beep test. Got to only 4.3 and nearly dying. Got to 6.6 and lost 10kg in weight. Gonna keep going 👍🏼

....idk...some say too much exercises, or rven mediocre produce stress, therefore the cortizol in the body... IDK, who does??!

Interesting, lance armstrong massively increased his vo2 max… I need his training technique 🧐

@alcoholicsementhrower

Жыл бұрын

Start taking EPO and you will be at the top 2% in no time

Yeah let me just go to the Vo2 max testing center and step on the scale. Remind where they are at and how much it costs

@tomarmstrong3297

11 ай бұрын

Yeah, saying how/where to get that test would kind of help

I do 14 times week exercise

I am a cyclist and swimmer and 70 y.o. and probably in top 2% for my age. But I don't buy the VO2 max correlation to longevity. My beloved mother who was a violinist, smoked into her 60's, drank way too much wine socially and lived to be 88 and she was one of the least athletic people I ever knew. She couldn't walk 100 feet without being out of breath. She liked to be sedentary and would read a book a day. Had she not smoked...she basically died of COPD and lost the capacity to breath, I believe she would have gone to 95 minimum. Her boyfriend did live to be 95 and he was also sedentary and liked to play bridge and go to the theater with my mom. Not buying what the doctor is laying down and I follow his teachings closely and personally adhere to all fitness metrics, intermittently fast, light weights, no sugar, low carbs, swim and bike almost every day etc.

@nsmith131

7 ай бұрын

How mental is it to think that a personal anecdote about two people you knew is adequate to refute a theory that doesn't even claim to address individuals but whole populations?

@lukewalker1051

7 ай бұрын

@@nsmith131 There is no scientific study that verifies any correlation between longevity and V02 max. None. This is Peter Attia's fantasy. Studies have been performed on retired Tour de France riders who had the highest V02 max in their lifetime relative to the average population and the most vigilant health fanatics and their life expectancy is the same as the average population. Countless non athletes live into their 90's with average V02 relative to the population mean. Further, many endurance athletes with the highest VO2 max have died 'young' due to an arrythmia developed by heart muscle degradation due to countless hours of endurance training increasing V02 max.

@nsmith131

7 ай бұрын

@@lukewalker1051 no. Actually there is a body of literature that supports the thing you're insisting is incorrect. You can find it using a very simple google search. Obviously you have never verified the assumptions that you're confidently asserting. It's absolutely wild that you're willing to post this "no scientific study... None" bullcrap. It's just a straight up lie, and one that's easily disprovable at that. And again, refuting a theory with a personal anecdote would make you look insane even if you were correct.

Idk man I had a 39bpm rhr and could run 20 miles at any given moment with no water and I definitely didn’t feel healthy so it’s subjective. I was so damn stressed I nearly died a few times. I suggest people do the amount of exercise that gives them the best results and a healthy well rounded life

Are marathon living the longest? What about professional athletes? I tend to think not. The Okinawans aren't doing high intensity exercise but they live active lives, have great community and eat well.

How accurate is the Apple Watch I wonder

He's forgetting sleep...

@DR-br5gb

Жыл бұрын

Is he forgetting, or holding it as a constant?

@rockyblumble

11 ай бұрын

He said it's the "most" important metric, not the "only" important metric

Interesting

I don't know about this. A lot of people I know that lived past 90 didn't exercise some smoked for decades

50 according to my watch so Mabye not accurate but I’love take it

I know what mine is, and where it’s going. With HR, height, weight, power in watts, over each effort on the bike, my garmin spits out a number. With all those inputs, it’s pretty accurate.

@ulrah2o

11 ай бұрын

Not

Obviously cardiovascular fitness is to be desired. But the effect on the length of a person's life is so complex. VO2 max at what age?

Oh “very few” I thought he said 32 and I was like, wtf, that’s extremely specific lmao

Correlation. If someone is healthy they can exercise. I’d they have heart failure and cancer they can’t. Hence the correlation.

"words words words. Science science science. Vo2 Vo2 Vo2. Max max max. More and more words. = Healthy.... Dope

Knowing a number isn’t going to help you live longer

If this is the case then why do so many athletes or fitness fanatics die before old age? I think it’s based on genetics and food choices

i have been chainsmoking for 8 years the doctor told me he has never seen such a good vo2 max in a patient

@FourOfClubs

Жыл бұрын

It can't be a coincidence that most centenarians are smokers.

@localrachel

Жыл бұрын

Aww how do you think that happened? You exercise? Train? Eat something specific?

@oolala53

7 ай бұрын

So? That just proves you’re an exception. The doctor didn’t say it was a 100% correlation.

@oolala53

7 ай бұрын

@@FourOfClubs if you’re saying, that means smoking makes you live longer, that does not follow. I’d be curious to know where you got that evidence. What’s more likely is it? It means that most centenarians have a very high genetic component that contributes to their longevity and health span.

@FourOfClubs

7 ай бұрын

@@oolala53 Genetics is always the go-to excuse for everything they can't explain. It's nothing but a baseless, unscientific assumption.

It is not that vo2 max is the reason for longevity. It is more the general lifestyle that leads to a good vo2max that also prevents early death and thus increases average lifespan. Targeting your training to maximize vo2max (i.e. lot of hiit) is not necessarily extending your lifespan because hiit is also increasing oxydative stress. Again, increasing average lifespan is not the same as maximizing individual lifespan. I know my vo2max, I am 62 years and its about 52 ml/min/kg. Not a crazy high value but probably a pretty healthy one.

My vo2 max is off the charts terrible. Makes me so sad 😞

@PseudoSarcasm

5 ай бұрын

There's an easy way to increase it, lose weight, VO2 max goes up

My grandmother never exercised a day in her life! She drank gin at noon ,and lived off of pork fat and hard cheese! She lived to be 99 and only took meds the last year of her life....

The sad truth is that vo2max is 85% genetic and 15% life style.

@capgains

10 ай бұрын

Links please

@ivankaramasov

10 ай бұрын

@capgains It was based on what I read in Tim Noakes, "The Lore of Running." It might be outdated, though. A quote: “VO2 max can be improved, on average, by only 5-15%, even with intensive training. It is clear, then, that the average person can train as much as he or she likes yet never achieve a VO2 max anywhere near that of elite athletes.”

@richardjones3792

6 ай бұрын

Genetic? Sounds like excuse making bullshit.

@ivankaramasov

6 ай бұрын

@richardjones3792 It is just as genetic as, for example, your distribution of fast and slow muscle fibers, which is actually related to vo2max. A sprinter can never be an even mediocre long-distance runner and vice versa. Actually, there is almost always an inverse correlation between vo2max and anaerobic power.

@richardjones3792

6 ай бұрын

@@ivankaramasov so much bro science 😂😂😂

Just look up Mythalene Blue.

Avoid illness - which ones. Im fit but when i get the flu it wipes me out for a week . Thats always baffled me.

Not as simple as that, look at very long distance runners and the damage it does to their hearts, exercise is important but many are just damaging their body by taking it to extremes

@swcpugilist

Жыл бұрын

That is a tiny, tiny fraction of the population. It goes without saying not to take anything to the extreme

Nonsense, prime example, that 109 old gent in the US who still drives etc every day. He NEVER did structured exercise he says, he just keep busy and moving all the time, working etc Genetics have a massive impact on longevity and its hard to change genetics

@richardjones3792

Жыл бұрын

Such a dumb comment. People like him are EXCEPTIONS TO THE RULE. Muppet.

@FlatToRentUK

Жыл бұрын

This analysis is based on epidemiology, which is studies across populations. Outliers aren't really relevant.

How much would this cost. Maybe one could go to a college campus and get it down for free?

@Wetterwet

Жыл бұрын

@@thomasblack2393 thanks Thomas !

@cobo1316

Жыл бұрын

Smart watches can also measure it now. My Garmin Fenix 7 tracks it. It’s probably not as accurate as the test he is discussing, but I’ve been tracking improvement.

How accurate is my VO2 max "Cardio Fitness" on my FitBit?

Mine is 72

I vomited the first VO2 max test I did, it was absolutely the most brutal period of time lol

I'll die yesterday with a VO2 max of 30

But if you can’t go on doing high efforts (illness, accident…) your heart will come to beg you what to do with that size.

Which wrist watch is he rocking?

Tell that to the marathon runner who died after sending a message to the king.

@Miranda17137

Жыл бұрын

he didnt have a high enough vo2 4head

@marvinwilliams7938

Жыл бұрын

@@creatorbens This doesn't defeat my point. He already lost when he proposed the very rigid position that "V02" max is the greatest correlated metric to a long life. That means he's inadvertently saying that what you eat, when you sleep, what your stress levels are like, your social circle, are all almost irrelevant. If the position that 'v02 max' is the greatest correlated metric to a long life (i'm quoting his exact words in the video), then the marathon runner guy wouldn't have died, and triathletes and marathon runners just wouldn't all look frail and older than their age (in general). Notice how the title says "most overlooked" because Chris himself doesn't even agree with what the guy said.

@marvinwilliams7938

Жыл бұрын

​@@creatorbens I quote him word for word - “V02" max is the greatest correlated metric to a long life”. Which you can’t even agree with. Given you said “VO2 max gives you a rough idea of how healthy someone is overall. ” You’re beating a dead horse trying to defend his position.

@marvinwilliams7938

Жыл бұрын

@@creatorbens "If you want a top 5%ish VO2 max you'll probably need to be taking care you eating, sleep etc" - probably or definitely? Are ALL people with great v02 maxes eating and sleeping well? More importantly, are ALL, IF NOT ALMOST ALL, people with great v02 maxes living the longest lives? That is what he is arguing. By your own statement you're trying to pull strings together to defend his position. The position you're trying to defend is "v02 max is the greatest correlated metric to a long life" If I took 100 people with the greatest v02 max at random, and 100 people from a Blue Zone region following traditional longevity principles, he is basically arguing that the v02 max people will live longer. Which is bullshit. And you're trying to defend that bullshit but you use words like "probably", "rough idea", so you're not even confident at it. And I doubt any of the centurions in the blue zone regions, or any centurion in any region in general, have the 'greatest v02 maxes'. I actually realised just how retarded his statement is. Because if he is saying 'v02 max provides the greatest correlation to longevity of life', then he's basically saying to a large extent that all senior adults over 80, 90 or 100 years old have the greatest v02 maxes.. which is laughable. Looking forward to hearing you defend that.

@marvinwilliams7938

Жыл бұрын

@@creatorbens I have not watched the podcast so I did not know that information re age brackets - that makes sense. But that isn't what he is contending. He is contending that, I quote his words, "v02 max is the greatest correlated metric to a long life". He is arguing that v02max is a greater correlated metric to longer life than other more conventional metrics - precisely because he uses the word "greatest". I get what you're saying. You're implying that if someone has a great v02 max, he/she MUST also have all the other more conventional metrics to longevity - sleep, food, etc. And if that's the case, then people with high v02 maxes will definitely live longer than those without high v02 maxes. Let's assume that's your position because that is what Peter is implying from his statement. Given that, are you saying that if we took 100 random people with a great v02 max, they would live longer than 100 people from conventional blue zone areas that likely do not have a superior v02 max? You and I both know that this is the real question being asked. And I would argue that is ludicrous. Think of all the professional athletes, (assume professional athletes have high v02maxes) that can play sports and do cocaine on the weekends, eat mcdonalds, and sleep 3-4 hours a day. There are more of these people than you know, and they would be included in the pot of randomly selected sample size of 100 people with v02 maxes (there is no exception to excluding these people from the pot of people with high v02 maxes). Imagine the amount of triathletes, marathon runners, olympic athletes in the world - people that you would agree have great v02 maxes. That's actually a lot of people. And your assumption is that these people will outlive people who don't have that great v02 maxes but just focus on let's say, conventional blue zone principles. **The problem with your position is that you want to exclude those outliers with high v02 maxes that don't live healthy lifestyles, but you can't exclude them, given Peter's statement. You also need to include all those people who have trained to achieve a high v02 max, and also factor into account that a high amounts of exercise and training can lead to excess cortisol and high stress levels which could impact longevity as a by product. You need to include the David Goggins, Marathon runners, ultra marathon runners, Rich Rolls into your pot. That makes people who live with conventional blue zone principles a much safer bet to living a long life, and thus a greater correlation to a long life than people with high v02 maxes.** Look forward to hearing what you have to say to this; because this is the key point of debate. And no, I am not arguing what you state, that "VO2 max is one of the best metrics to gauge someone’s overall level of fitness". We are not talking about Fitness; we are talking about LONGEVITY. Again, you're the one defending "v02 max is the greatest metric correlated to LONGEVITY".

except for the football players who are dying on the field.

It sucks you have to go to test facility to find out

I had it done. My takeaway metric was METs. I wished it was much higher but all I can do is walk a lot. After two MIs and at age 75, I am out of ideas. Any suggestion?

I didn't exercise for yearrrrs and i did my vo2 max and it was high. They also said i managed to get 233 watts? Whatever that means.

So focus on vo2 max more than zone 2?

Last week… 40

So what is a good vo2 max?

How about if you have asthma 🤔

One day the say VO2 and the next day they say muscle mass, etc. etc.

Source: trust me bro

@sinephase

Жыл бұрын

it's a short...

@Sinasi08

Жыл бұрын

😂😂

according my garmin watch, I have 48 VO2 max.

Is this really true? I doubt my grandma had a VO2 max of a marathon runner but she did live to be 101.

Does smoking effect ur vo2max

Whilst that’s true, the man in bald. Baldness is actually also one of the biggest correlations also with longevity particularly in men. Baldness is a sign of metabolic illness and potential thyroid issues, which IMO matter more than VO2

@admirallightningbolt

Жыл бұрын

lmfao

We already know that we need to exercise, so knowing a number called your VO2 max, doesn't really change anything

@FlatToRentUK

Жыл бұрын

If you know it you can put in place an exercise regime to improve it. And then you can see how effective that routine is. However, finding it out usually requires a lab test so not that convenient! Watches and fitness trackers are good at estimating but you can't beat a lab test.

I don't even know how???

If someone has a healthy heart and lungs but arthritic knees and hips then try testing their VO2 max. They will do poorly because their joints will give up far before their heart and lungs. In this case I think the VO2 max test is still a good predictor of longevity but Peter doesn’t really talk about this. What I’m trying to say is that maintaining a high VO2 max is good, but that’s not as simple as it seems on the surface. To achieve a high VO2 max late in life you also need to avoid the chronic injuries. So training like an Olympic athlete, doing hard manual labour for long hours each day or being an ultramarathon runner isn’t optimal and being a couch potato definitely isn’t good. It’s mostly about finding something in the middle and being consistent. Most people do not exercise enough so that sweet spot is likely more exercise than what 80% or 90% of the population actually does

@stsk1061

11 ай бұрын

Which is why it's such a good predictor. In order to get a high VO2 max you need to be able to exercise and actually do it for a long time.

@mcfarlac1

11 ай бұрын

@@stsk1061 I’m just saying it’s a lot about training to not getting chronically injured and arthritic and not simply about training to get a high VO2 max. Peter Attia is oversimplifying this whole discussion

@stsk1061

11 ай бұрын

@@mcfarlac1 If you're chronically injured, you're not going to have a high VO2 max.

@mcfarlac1

11 ай бұрын

@@stsk1061 exactly. So training to have a high VO2 max later in life should also put a priority on not getting chronic injuries not just training to have an elite VO2 max in the next year or two and pounding out some ultramarathons

@stsk1061

11 ай бұрын

@@mcfarlac1 That was not the statement he made. He said that a high VO2 max is most strongly correlated with a long life expectancy.

I think pranayam helps with lung capacity.

My Vo2 max is garbage. Goodbye cruel world.

I cant push it until u push it hard!!!! On mass its a really stupid metric unless u r an athlete....

O2 saturation correlates negatively with longevity since it promotes the creation of free radicals that end up damaging DNA

Didn't even know what vo2 max was 😂

Why are we pretending this is news. Healthy people who exercise live longer 🤯

And yet the people who live the longest were generally not overly athletic in their youth