Do you agree turtles are at the top of the list, or does another species "beat" them? See very video on my slider, Franklin here! kzread.info/head/PLIXZgmnvg0nAQCVElBCJSIKKjGywQoyWC

@frostbitetheannunakiiceind6574

3 жыл бұрын

Turtles are amazing animals it's sad the way they are treated

@balyyyy

3 жыл бұрын

Hey! you made a typo :,D

@frostbitetheannunakiiceind6574

3 жыл бұрын

Hey herping, could you make a video about common & alligator snapping turtles in the future

@mr.bobbilly8981

3 жыл бұрын

Probably the worst with reptiles but with all animals its definitely all the beta and gold fish in .00000000001 gallon bowls

@letsgettanked7344

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely bettas because more parents would buy that and kill it fast than a turtle

I would say the MOST neglected pet animals are hermit crabs and goldfish.

@Abbanellie

3 жыл бұрын

This is about reptiles though

@Cat-di9lg

3 жыл бұрын

And parrots!! Parrots are normally rehomed 7 times before the age of 10, and aren't taken care of properly.

@goldh2o543

3 жыл бұрын

It's sad to see people not care because they're just small animals. Hermit crabs slowly get poisoned and suffocate to death, either because they aren't given water to fully submerge themselves, or they are given those horrible painted shells. Goldfish can live upwards of two decades, but because people keep them in tiny bowls they end up dying in a week.

@Cat-di9lg

3 жыл бұрын

@thecasualtrollingpuma Goldfish need 20 gals for the first fish, 10gal for every added on fish (fancy goldfish) and 50 gal per fish for the other type. And they need filters 2x the size tank they're in. Bettas need a 5+ tank and don't need as strong of a filter. Goldfish are more abuses than bettas although both have it bad.

@lslslslslslslsl1

3 жыл бұрын

And then there's me with 4 gold fish in a 600 litre tank

turtles, hamsters, and betta fish are the “good pets that are widely neglected due to pet stores selling them for dirty cheap” trifecta

@sarraceniaporrot

3 жыл бұрын

Hermit crabs join the battle as the secret fourth member! You can get them for five bucks some places here, nice man at petco says they’ll do fine together on aquarium rocks with a water dish and some hermit crab kibble and nothing else when in reality they need a few inches of substrate to burrow, and places to climb, and hides, and both freshwater and saltwater and really high humidity or else they’ll choke to death, painted shells poison them, too many in one tank leads to fighting, not enough food leads to fighting, each one likes different food and it’s a total pain (ive never had one that likes the processed kibble stuff) Cherry on top? Every single one is wild caught because they have yet to be bred in captivity! Hermit crabs are cool, but also I don’t recommend them because they’re a lot of maintenance (and cleaning, lots of cleaning)

@briannaharter4411

3 жыл бұрын

Goldfish take the cake honestly. You can get them every where including carnivals and schools will even give them out.they are often sick and rarely last even a week cuase of how poorly poeple care for them. The ones that do survive often have to live a life stunted.cuase very few have a tank needed for them.

@moekitsune

3 жыл бұрын

Hamsters are probably the most neglected pet I know of. People keep them in those dumb crittertrail enclosures with no enrichment and shitty food, which is the exact opposite of how they should be kept. Ideally one should have a custom built enclosure for a hamster as they're actually rather mobile.

@sarraceniaporrot

3 жыл бұрын

@@moekitsune You and brianna have a point but similar happens to hermit crabs They’re sold at tourist traps in a lot of tropical and subtropical places, as well as some pet stores, for dirt cheap prices and put in tiny little plastic carrying cages less than a foot long with nothing but multicolored aquarium pebbles and a single water/food dish (Obviously there’s exceptions and a lot of factors can lead to their deaths but I have seen that stuff being sold in a tourist trap). As a result they usually die within a few weeks to a few months, when in the wild some can live 30 years (it varies wildly). It’s *possible* to have hermit crabs live that long in captivity but extremely difficult since they’re pretty high maintenance Goldfish/Bettas 🤝 Hermit Crabs 🤝 Hamsters (honestly most rodents) 🤝 Turtles Garbage care leading to premature deaths or permanent disfiguration

@hannahsmith7693

3 жыл бұрын

@@moekitsune exactly it’s just hateful and neglectful to have an animal in something that small some species of hamsters run 10 miles a night it’s disgusting corporate greed has led to so much abuse

"It's so cute!" That's exactly why I was allowed to keep my Leopard Gecko. My landlord had never heard of a Gecko at all, but as soon as she googled Gecko and saw a leopard gecko, she was like, "Awww..." and that was it. I don't' even get charged for it as a pet lol.

@stunninglizard6261

3 жыл бұрын

Damn what country are u from where u can get charged for a pet??? Thats wild

@ItMeSinamenRoll

3 жыл бұрын

@@stunninglizard6261 in the US there is usually a pet deposit, pet fees, and then a monthly pet rent for apartments. Edit: spelling.

@soryn2296

3 жыл бұрын

@@ItMeSinamenRoll so your pets dont live rent free? Damn i gotta show that to my ball python. Its time he earns his stay. (Joking of course, i adore my baby helios)

@rociosilverroot2261

3 жыл бұрын

@@stunninglizard6261 In the US, most apartment landlords will charge a pet deposit on the assumption that they'll have to do more repairs with a pet in the house. They're not entirely wrong about that. Even the best behaved pet will leave hair everywhere, but then again so do people. But a less justifiable charge is monthly pet rent that will charge 25-50 extra dollars for every pet you own.

@stunninglizard6261

3 жыл бұрын

@@rociosilverroot2261 thats crazy. Here in Germany the law basically states that landlord doesnt have any right to control/know about what a tenant does within the apartment. They have to be told about dogs (and cats if its more than 1/2) beforehand but they can only deny them if someone who lives in the house has a severe allergy/phobia and only that person can order that. Not the landlord. With smaller animals (so all rodents, reptiles and aquatic animals) the landlord doesn't even have the right to know about them. And no pet fees/extra rent... only in some cases with very large dogs or dogs with a certain history they can make the tenant get extra insurance incase the dog damages anything.

Alex making videos, is Stan's enrichment.

@Dehalove

3 жыл бұрын

That’s not how commas work

@maggiesaunders9713

3 жыл бұрын

I too go to the KZread comments to learn grammar.

@spooker746

3 жыл бұрын

so true. it's adorable

@feitanportor9780

3 жыл бұрын

True that🤣

@Taystee

3 жыл бұрын

@@Dehalove That’s not, very,,,,,, nice,,,.

If you want a display pet get a fish bowl, get some rocks, get some decorations and get a plastic fish

@janisi9262

3 жыл бұрын

Marimo moss balls.

@lanietalk

3 жыл бұрын

@@janisi9262 I was going to comment this lol. they’re so cute and plants!

@technoraptor7778

3 жыл бұрын

Yes plastic fish

@braileebatista3321

3 жыл бұрын

i just put a fish tank as my screen saver lol, very life like, and no mess!

@-desertpackrat

3 жыл бұрын

They have those mechanic ones that swim around even.

My parents bought a sulcata tortoise at a reptile convention when I was a kid (for reference this was probably around 1998-2000) They had no idea how big she would get. The convention was selling them as tiny babies in small plastic containers. We named her Max, because for a long time we weren’t sure whether she was male or female. Eventually she got way too big for a tank and we just turned our sun room into a big enclosure for her. She loved spinach and strawberries the best. We would also take her outside where she had a fenced in area. We had her for years until she got too big for us to legally keep her, and my dad found a lady that cares for them in Florida so he drove down there with her and left her with the lady. We still get pictures and updates from the lady and max is doing great and is super healthy, but she is now an enormous dinosaur 🐢

@owenpierson5881

3 жыл бұрын

That’s a beautiful story. Wonder how many other “maxes” are out there

@notaperson9831

3 жыл бұрын

@self345 lol for real

@cicelypatterson3927

3 жыл бұрын

that's so sweet, good on you guys for being responsible, I'm positive max appreciates it

@-desertpackrat

3 жыл бұрын

@self345 check out Kamp Kenan here on YT if you've never seen him, he's in florida, huge reptile rescue, it's so awesome

@rebeccawicks5111

3 жыл бұрын

I love that you did everything you could for Max, one of the lucky ones for sure!

My brother kept a wild caught red ear slider for almost thirty years, until his precious pet suddenly died a few years ago. He loved his pet and took great care of him, even gave him a funeral when he died. His new turtle has been taken well care of as well and he is always planning her next bigger, better tank. I agree that turtles are extremely hard to get the water right because they so dirty. But they are so fulfilling when you get it right.

@IrieRogue

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. I had sworn off aquatic turtles because of the maintenance, but I finally ended up rescuing a Cumberland slider that I didn't feel right releasing. I'd rescued and released 12 turtles that summer successfully, but I didn't know if Turtleman would survive. So lo and behold, I now have a Cumberland slider, and it is absolutely a blast designing her new tanks. Sliders have such great personalities, and I love how active they are. Such a shame so many ppl abuse their babies, it makes me sick.

@daniellebranck97

3 жыл бұрын

I have a yellow bellied slider that I fell in love with ( after doing TONS of research) I learned just how quickly they grow, its not a cheap hobby to say the least but the personality is the thing that keeps me into it, he's so charismatic and charming lol right now he's a three inches in a 55 gallon

@zs_886

3 жыл бұрын

@@daniellebranck97 same! my yellow belly follows me everywhere and if i throw something thats orange she chases it. Kinda of like fetch except she doesnt bring it back lol

@SuccessforLifester

3 жыл бұрын

So it was buried ? I always wonder how dead tortoise or turtle should be handled. Especially if someone lives in a flat and does not have a garden

Literally all I have to do to convince someone not to get a pet is list the laundry list of things they need and their prices and suddenly they dont want the animal because how dare they cost more that 20 dollars

@cicelypatterson3927

3 жыл бұрын

seriously! some people expect any pet thats not a cat or a dog to be under 50 bucks, thats not how this works!

@ashaf4530

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve spent 1000s on fish tanks filters and fish and a lot of people just don’t understand how expensive this stuff is

@Clover_knows_pets

3 жыл бұрын

Yes same

@joeyjojos5839

3 жыл бұрын

I'm having flashbacks to when I worked at petco and someone would come in with a brand new kitten and demand that I find them a bag of food that costs 10 dollars or less.

@oyecomova5478

3 жыл бұрын

Worst part is they're still pretty damn cheap, just after the initial cost of all the supplies

I remember finding a red ear slider left in the hot California sun in middle school. Someone clearly abandoned him but I knew my science teacher was a biologist and had worked with numerous animals studying otters, birds, and turtles. She ended up keeping him and now he has a lovely home.

I feel like the newsworthy aspect of the article mentioned in the beginning isnt that she hasnt gotten rid of the pet, but rather that she's had the same pet thats been alive since she was 10. Most people only have experience with pets that live around 10 years on average, to have had one pet since you were a child thats still alive and not showing signs of "aging" is the novelty of the article.

The biggest problem I have seen with illegal animals is not obtaining them but getting them seen by vets. Vets will just refuse to treat the animal= more neglect. Simply wonderful.

@raccoontrashpanda1467

3 жыл бұрын

Its on the owner before you get any animal that isn't a cat or dog to find a vet that will treat the animal. Even getting something relatively common like a leopard gecko or hamster seen can be a problem if they aren't an "exotic" vet as vets specialise in care, just like human doctors.

@claire8531

3 жыл бұрын

@@raccoontrashpanda1467 So you make the animal suffer for the owner's mistake? What if they bought the animal having no idea it was illegal? At that point it's not helpful to be telling them what they should have done. They already own the animal and it needs help, help they are trying to find.

@oooSALUKIAooo

3 жыл бұрын

@@raccoontrashpanda1467 I culdn't agree more but people are morons and do not even know where to source proper food before they get a pet, forget a proper vet (or any vet). I admin some small pet mammal groups and the stuff I see just makes me want to scream (usually at the owners). @Lily The vets just won't take the animals as they can loose their license if they treat them. On top of it the vet is usually completely inexperienced with that species and has no clue what is wrong or how to fix it. Sellers should be the ones punished first and foremost.

Turtles are super cool animals. But I'm fully aware that I am not able to facilitate what I would need to keep them. And while I do think they are great I can't say I would want to put in the work to keep one. So what does that mean? Im not going to get one! You can pass an animal in a store and think it's cute and realize that you can't have it. Or that you don't want to put in the work becuase you aren't interested in them. That's how I look at it. Can I handle the care? Am I ready to have this animal for years and years? If either is a no then keep walking.

@mmidnightspell

3 жыл бұрын

I have a turtle

@techne360

3 жыл бұрын

I tried explaining this to my roommate one day and she wasn't listening. She cut me off with 'I should get a turtle!' And I'm like.... bruh. sis. That's the opposite of the point I was making

@Gojo13201

3 жыл бұрын

I keep sleeping with my turtle and i wake up to see it trying to escape under my door

This is actually something I have seen before. When I was in 7th grade my friend impulse bought two turtles from PetSmart after seeing them in a restaurant. Less than three days later she "rehomed" them after realizing that they smell bad.

This is _so incredibly true._ Somehow people assume that turtles are "easier" pets as far as husbandry goes, perhaps because they appear less intimidating than other reptiles, and like you said, are resilient tanks. But literally anytime you add gallons and gallons of water to the equation for an aquatic animal, it gets a heckuva lot more complex. I'm literally uploading a video to my channel right now about how expensive it actually is to own these animals...once you factor in filters and lighting, you're not going to want it to be an impulse purchase. And my aquariums are BY FAR the enclosures needing the most maintenance, compared to my other reptiles. Not to mention sliders get enormous. Perhaps a wider availability for turtle species that stay smaller, like mud or musk turtles, that might actually thrive in a tank size that's more reasonable for people (like a 40 gallon) would alleviate the pressure from all the red eared sliders who get too large and the owners can't care for them anymore.

@Raybilldo

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly I wish the people selling me my turtles actually explained some of the things to expect. Even then though I was 11 so I'm not sure I would have taken it as seriously as I do now. Also it would have been nice if they told me the dangers of putting two turtles in the same tank, luckily there different genders and my female turtle rejects my male turtle.

@AdamSmith-gs2dv

3 жыл бұрын

Tortoises are pretty easy maintenance wise, the issue with them is setting up their enclosure and having the space for it but if you can do that then they are pretty low maintenance pets after that (unlike turtles and their water). I would say the main issue with tortoises is also their best asset: thier life span. You better make sure you want a tortoise before you get one cause they will EASILY live 50 years and could very likely live into their 70s and 80s!

The horror that set in my heart when you mentioned the pruney fingers.... That’s it, we need to save every turtle.

My girls have asked for turtles. The answer is always "who is gonna take care of them when you leave for college? Because it isn't gonna be me" " who is gonna take care of it in 30 years when you're busy and living life? Not me." So, the answer is no. Always.

@swaminathanj5110

3 жыл бұрын

What if they will take care of it?

@anthonygaitan3901

3 жыл бұрын

Swaminathan J Yeah this is almost never the case for children. You buy a kid an animal and there’s a 50/50 shot they’ll maintain interest it in enough to take care of it after two weeks

@jenkroll843

3 жыл бұрын

@@swaminathanj5110 that is not a risk I am willing to take. If they choose to get turtles after they move out of my house, that's on them. But as their parent it is my job for them to understand the realities of responsible pet ownership.

@swaminathanj5110

3 жыл бұрын

@@jenkroll843 ok makes sense.

@anthonygaitan3901

3 жыл бұрын

Jen Kroll Have you considered something easier to maintain with a shorter lifespan for them? Enrichment with any kind of animal really is always a great thing for developing minds.

A few years ago we were visiting Florida and saw a van with a turtle on it on the side of the road. We just wanted look but the guy said these quarter sized turtles could live in a small plastic container with water off of 2 food pellets a day and wouldnt get much bigger. Because it was cute and sounded simple, cheap, and easy maintenance mom decided to get us one. The turtles were originally $20 each but he gave us one free so that me and my sister had our own and the first turtle wouldnt be alone. He didn't mention light, heat, or filters for them either. Luckily, once we got home, we did some research and bought UV lamps, heat lamps, heaters, and filters. They're still alive and well today and they seemed to have formed completely fine and healthy. They kept getting bigger and we kept feeding them more because 2 pellets didnt seem to be nearly enough. We bought 3-4 tanks because we had to keep upgrading, they just wouldnt stop growing. They were yellow-bellied sliders and got up to nearly a foot each (luckily they were both males). We kept them in a 75 gallon but it just wasnt nearly enough room for them. We ended up giving them to a friend because the care was too much. Impulse buying is so bad and it's crucial to know who you're buying from. This guy straight up lied and me and my sister were too young to know any better.

@SuccessforLifester

3 жыл бұрын

I advised, I believed some youngster against getting a turtle some years ago in the comment section and was scolded instead

@moekitsune

3 жыл бұрын

I think that guy who sold you the turtles is actually breaking the law by doing that.

@alyssavazquez1203

3 жыл бұрын

@@moekitsune It definitely was. Because he had so many, we figure he didnt even breed them and that he wild caught them instead. I can't imagine all the turtles that suffered because he wanted to make some quick cash :/

@alyssavazquez1203

3 жыл бұрын

@@SuccessforLifester That's so annoying 🤦‍♀️ Would they have scolded a pet store employee for explaining the extensive care or suggesting another pet instead? People need to just listen to advice, especially when it's care for another living being

I’m a turtle keeper so I belong to a lot of turtle keeper groups on Facebook. It’s very frustrating because even when people join these groups they often refuse advice because of what a pet store employee has told them. Or they say they kept turtles as a kid and those turtles were fine. It just seems like out of all reptiles people are most resistant to the updates in care in the turtle world. I have a southern painted turtle because it’s one of the smallest turtles you can get. I did my research and research is so easy to do in modern day. It just blows my mind how easy it is to find info that people just don’t do or then just ignore. So I don’t know the answer because I see people just ignore information on care all the time.

@Cat-di9lg

3 жыл бұрын

Do you think a tank or tub is better? I have a rescue and im going to get him a 150 tank this summer, but I'm a highschool student and will probably be moving around a lot these next 10 yrs. I hate the look of tubs but moving a 150gal tank plus stand sounds very stressful.

@edenallday4247

3 жыл бұрын

@@Cat-di9lg it’s really a personal preference. As long as your going with a 150 in either they’re going to be happy. Just make sure you buy a filter that can handle 3x that. Do weekly water changes, have uvb lighting and a basking bulb over an area where your turtle can dry off completely and a water heater able to heat that much water. I know plenty of people who keep turtles in tubs and they are very happy. You may enjoy your turtle more in a tank where you can view them better. But if you’re fine with a tub than your turtle will be too 🙂

I have two russian tortoises that have been rehomed at least 5 times to my knowlege. I took care of them at my school, they were in a tiny terrarium with no lights and were fed this medicore tortoise food mixture. For intersession i wrote a paper detailing why the tortoises were under treated and why i could treat them properly. Now ive had them for 5 years and there moods theve changed 100% and are so happy now.

@saga2964

3 жыл бұрын

Awwwww! So happy you were able to rescue them--aren't they just the best?! Hopefully you now are housing them separately though! They live solitary lives and unless their enclosure is huge w/ many places for each to hide/not have sight of each other, it's actually very stressful for them. Sadly, there have been too many instances where ppl come home one day to find one dead from the other finally killing it.

@carto4028

3 жыл бұрын

@@saga2964 Yes they are seperate, they werent before i took em in but they are now.

As a fish keeper as well as a turtle keeper, any aquatic organism is neglected. It is really sad because if they are given the proper environment, water parameters, etc, they live so long! 😢

@CraftyChicken91

3 жыл бұрын

No one understands fish biology. It's very sad 9/10 home aquariums are terrible.

When I turned like 9 or 10 my uncle gave me a Russian tortoise for my birthday. I had no idea how to take care of it. I gave them to someone who would actually take care of them. Please do NOT buy pets for anyone without them knowing.

@SuccessforLifester

3 жыл бұрын

Most of the pets I have were purchased by my mother, now I am looking after two torts. Have them for twenty years

@c.a.fontaine1074

2 жыл бұрын

I got a hamster for Christmas but I was already prepared to take care of it and I knew I was going to get it.

Franklin would give Usain Bolt a run for his money

@nick_leitch

3 жыл бұрын

“A RUN for his money” I see what you did there 😉

“She’s pretty old now” haha dang Alex, you could have just said she’s grown up now

We should normalise the concept that you can't own any animal you want. Why not get a plushie of it instead? Why not get a cool plant instead?

@analysis9479

3 жыл бұрын

Oh so killing plants is okay now smh

@azoreaneve4777

3 жыл бұрын

@@analysis9479 plants don't have brains or rights yet 😔

@heatherjensen3327

3 жыл бұрын

I'm a plant person and cringe about people randomly buying plants and assuming they are all the same. So many dead succulents in sealed terrariums because 'it's cute'. Or people who love the look of rare/exotic/hard to care for plants but have never owned a plant. Don't spend $300 dollars on a wet stick you'll 100% kill. Learn some plant husbandry first.

@heatherjensen3327

3 жыл бұрын

@@azoreaneve4777 ever heard of tree laws? Plants for sure have rights and are also being poached to the point of extinction by people wild-collecting.

@analysis9479

3 жыл бұрын

I was being facetious. But people do be killing plants just the same. I’d say plants are equally important, but I’d rather a plant die then a poor animal that can feel pain.

I'm listening to you tell me how filthy turtles are while watching my painted turtle dig through her river rocks to find bits of turtle poop to eat. That moment was serendipity for sure.

I love turtles so much. But I know deep down I don’t have the money or time to be able to keep one. I also know I can’t keep that long life commitment

love this message, well done man!

@GoHerping

3 жыл бұрын

thanks!

So how do we fix it? Any suggestions? Cause idk

@shugarshack8536

3 жыл бұрын

Not living in america

@chelseaong188

3 жыл бұрын

idk man ask stan about his opinions

@phlegm8776

3 жыл бұрын

dont

@aardfay

3 жыл бұрын

You making a video about it should help. We need more people talking about appropriate care for turtles and tortoises.

@frostbitetheannunakiiceind6574

3 жыл бұрын

Don't release ur turtle

Alex's voice is super soothing. This is an official request for more "talking videos." Not that there isn't talking in all of his videos, but you guys know what I mean.

We had a red eared slider growing up, she really didn't get a good quality of care. We inherited her when other family members stopped caring for her. Someone in the family bought her as a baby and kept her in a circular tupperware filled with water and with one rock, and we had an aquarium that was too small as a replacement. We had her in a pond during the summers, which she absolutely loved, but ultimately I regret that we didn't know more and have the resources to give her a wonderful life.

Not the cleanest, probably the cutest, definitely not the easiest.

Only reptile channel i dont get bored of watching for 5mins plus. I can actually finish your videos, and not feel "forced" to watch lmao.

EXACTLY!! How do I make one of my friends see that him keeping two red eared sliders (they're both 5 inches) IN A TEN GALLON TANK WITH NO WATER is wrong? He won't listen to anything I say.

@vimproved

3 жыл бұрын

tbh i would want to just steal the turtles and rehome them at that point

@GutieWithaBooty

3 жыл бұрын

Show him this video, make him change before its too late, they're turtles not tortoises

@charlotte6154

3 жыл бұрын

@@GutieWithaBooty I know, that's what I've been telling him.. and yeah I'll send him this

@charlotte6154

3 жыл бұрын

​@@vimproved His parents would come for me 💀

@vimproved

3 жыл бұрын

@@charlotte6154 Fair enough. Just really try to help educate him, maybe even pitch in some if you can. You could also show him emerald scales if he needs to re-home.

my dad got me a red ear slider when i was in kindergarten, and wont let me get her a bigger tank so she is just in a half filled 40gal... waiting till i move out to give her a nice pond. i still get frustrated that he just sprung an animal on me that he didn't do a second of research on it and hasn't let me care for it right...

@SarahSamie

3 жыл бұрын

I had the exact same situation. Honestly I just went ahead and bought a better tank without telling my parents- just brought home and dealt with repercussions after. It took me some time to build up the money but I got there and my lil man is thriving and super happy with all of the huge improvements. Bigger also is “easier” to keep the water clean and quality better. You still obviously have to do often water changes but more water = more dilution of waste. Maybe that’ll help convince your father. Hopefully he can get the basic care he deserves - I know it’s not your fault, but regardless no animal deserves to suffer, maybe see if there’s a local rescue to surrender if you’re not leaving soon and aren’t able to give him better care than a rescue might. :(

@-desertpackrat

3 жыл бұрын

gently remind him that there are laws against animal neglect now and you're just trying to be a law abiding citizen and what does he have against following the law?

@fiona0236

3 жыл бұрын

@@-desertpackrat haha that is a good argument 👍

Yeah I 200% agree. When my brother was like 5 he begged for a turtle and that Christmas my mother bought him a quarter size red ear slider in a super tiny tank like 1/2 gallon. 7 years later this turtle is now the size of the tank and is still in the 1/2 gallon. My mom decides the turtle is now stinky and has a genius idea to buy a kiddie pool and put the turtle in that outside. Now the turtle has a filter and a kiddie pool and after only 2 days of living outside the turtle has “escaped” sending my brother into a wreck to find it when everyone knew that the turtle was stolen by an animal and eaten.

honestly i think hermit crabs probably more neglected than any reptile

@gayforbrae5693

3 жыл бұрын

yea apparently as easy to buy as a fish in america but with like triple the needs literally just babys first animal abuse

@charlotte6154

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly! And almost all of them are wild caught anyway :(

@frostbitetheannunakiiceind6574

3 жыл бұрын

Makes sense

@Slicknewt

3 жыл бұрын

They are definitely abused and shouldnt be sold for kids in tiny setups, but they arent reptiles so kind of irrelevant. There are alot of animals in the pet trade that arent reptiles that are poorly cared for unfortunately

@pearldab7781

3 жыл бұрын

hermit crabs, bettas, and turtles are the “good pets that are widely neglected due to being sold dirt cheap” trifecta. also hamsters

I've had my red eared slider for 7 years now, my ex brought her home one day when she fit in my palm. He said it would be the easiest pet ever. Fast-forward a few years later, we broke up, he left it with me and i had no idea what to do. This channel helped me a lot because as you mentioned, I learned RES are the hardest freaking things to take care of. Now shes chillin though, nice 100g tank in my living room, homemade basking spots and she gets all the stuff she needs. Seriously though any parents thinking about getting their kids a RES.. lol don't. They are so so so so soooooooooo much work.

i 100% agree, i rescued my turtle from an extremely abusive situation and despite doing alot of research, im still learning and messing up but i want my turtle to be healthy and happy more then anything, its just too sad that alot of them dont feel the love they deserve.. my RES, Buddy, loves dancing, twirling, swimming, basking, and he's so curious about everything. such a lovely fellow, he sucks to clean up after but you do it if the animals you love♡

It breaks my heart every time I take a peak at my local Petco's turtles!!

@cloudberries

3 жыл бұрын

poor babies. the best thing to come out of COVID has been my local Petco not selling them anymore

@theasthmaticarchaeologist3843

3 жыл бұрын

@@cloudberries I am ready for mine to follow suit. It would also be great if they took their leopard geckos off of sand :(

@FieryCoal

3 жыл бұрын

@@theasthmaticarchaeologist3843 geez, sand? Even mine doesn’t do that, and they sell monitors and tegus which is awful.

@jaynecrafter2684

3 жыл бұрын

@@theasthmaticarchaeologist3843 The petco i got my leopard gecko did a great job at caring for their gecko's thats why i bought from them the tank was great and huge for just a few baby leo's and the gecko's were super healthy looking and it was clear the petstore cared i wish all petstores cared like that

@cloudberries

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaynecrafter2684 some chain ones are great! I used to drive 2.5 hours for one store’s fish department. Sadly a lot of them are poorly run-but that doesn’t discredit the good ones, of course!

Sad to say me and my mom were guilty of SEVERE turtle neglect when I was a kid. We had an Amboina box turtle kept in a large but very bare-bones enclosure. The only thing we did right with that enclosure was the UV light. There was no appropriate soil (only tree bark shavings), only a small water bowl, no humidity control and we had no idea how and what to feed the poor little creature. It ate mashed bananas about once a week, which was all we could get it to eat. The rest of the time it sat in a corner of the enclosure looking lethargic and shriveled up. Sometimes we'd find it upside down in its water bowl, having struggled to right itself but being unable to do so. Its limbs would hang limply at its side, its head under water yet it was still somehow alive. We eventually found a local school with a sizeable biology department who were willing to take the turtle off our hands and nurse it back to health. If it survived for long, I do not know. Mind you this was 20 years ago and good care advice for tropical semi-aquatic box turtles wasnt as readily available as it is now, but man I still feel guilty about it to this day.

“I am not good with tools” *refurbishes an entire trailer*

I think this is a really important topic, I’m I’m glad you’ve covered it. I don’t think people realise: getting a companion/pet isn’t about “aww, it’s cute.” It’s about whether or not you can take care of the pet, and if they’re suitable for your lifestyle. And it’s about whether or not you’d be willing you take care of them as long as they’re alive. If not, DON’T GET THEM. I strongly believe that people should be taught that they should only get a pet if they’re capable of caring for it.

I feel like fat tailed geckos because they just dont die.

@lavenderrluna

3 жыл бұрын

yes oh my god. any animal that is persistent is constantly abused and tortured because they just refuse to die.

@memesaredreams4589

3 жыл бұрын

@@lavenderrluna exactly

@Christywoowoo

3 жыл бұрын

@@lavenderrluna "my last betta fish lived 3 years in a vase so its fine" -anyone at the petstore i work at when i reccomend they grab a bigger tank than the 1 gallon fish bowl in their hands

@Connorsedols2002

3 жыл бұрын

@self345 wait, what, really???

Your cats’ expressions at 1:34 watching franklin walk around is so priceless omg

I simply made my turtles their own pond since I could never have enough tanks to give them the proper space they needed. It’s like 400+ gallons with a fenced in area. I only bought one of the 6 turtles I have, the rest were given to me for free by an exotic pet shop (two my dad brought home one day saying they were a breeding pair, he was dumb enough to get them). None have ever escaped, and I kept them out there all winter long. They have plenty of gold fish to snack on and a whole homemade rock wall and logs/dead trees we put in their water to climb and bask on. Might have some eggs this year but I just won’t let them hatch ig. Don’t need a million turtles and I don’t want to have to go through finding actually non abusive homes for each one since that’d be nearly impossible.

Honestly I do believe fish and turtles are the most neglected. People tend to think they just need enough water to have their whole body in and that's good enough. This is probably because of advertising though. Like betta fish for example are advertised to live in "tanks" smaller than coffee cups...when they need at least 4 gallons.. Edit* literally typed the wrong number oopsie

@sophiasieczka

3 жыл бұрын

20 gallons? that's very large for a betta fish. I've known keepers that reccomend a 2.5-5, but I've always kept them in a 10 thinking it was ample space. I feel anything over 20 is overkill

@lane2699

3 жыл бұрын

@@sophiasieczka couldn't tell ya why I typed 20 I think my brain was on autopilot lmao but I agree with you sorry about that

@deshayladixon7406

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. My sister implusively decided she wanted a goldfish when we went out to dinner one day and I spent the whole time talking her out of it(she got 3 goldfish like 2 years ago and they died in 2 dayss). I convinced her to get a betta fish instead(since they're more sturdy tbh). She then wanted 3 betta fish in a cheap bowl tank. I said get 1 and put it in an appropriate sized tank. And then made her buy everything it needed(via a quick google search no one seems to want to do for fish like it's so easy). So now the fish has been with us for a year and it's fine but at first she, like everyone, was very stubborn abt it not needing good care. She only wanted to spend like 20 dollares on it and I kept putting her down with facts abt the reality of caring for fish. She did get the fish in the end, but I made her do it right instead of half assing it the way ppl always seem to in pertains to fish.

I 100% agree. I have a small rescue for red ear sliders and a variety of other turtles and I have gotten about 25 red ear sliders alone in the past few months that are super neglected and poorly cared for. It’s so sad.

My cousin had a red eared slider literally just living in a bowl. She barely changed the water or gave it the proper food. It just died a couple days ago and she's had him for a couple months. I felt so bad for the poor guy and everyone told her to rehome it and she wouldn't budge.

When it comes to neglected pets, i'd say rodents are definitely up there along with turtles as they're often seen as "beginner" pets that parents get for their kids. Honestly if there were just some more regulations for pet stores, i think a lot of animals would be better off. As it is now, pet stores are just kinda allowed to do/say whatever they want & sell products that are genuinely harmful, like fx. hamster balls. The sad truth is that there's always gonna be a number of pets who get neglected, but it is possible to lessen that number.

@isabella-ky4yq

3 жыл бұрын

Agree! Genuinely horrified at how pet stores advertise rodents and the extremely harmful misinformation about their care they distribute. Especially when rodents need very enriching set ups and can be extremely difficult to get vets for.

@davidonfim2381

3 жыл бұрын

I've never had mice/rats/hamsters and have never done any research about their care, so I'm a little surprised about the hamster ball comment. What's the problem with them?

@xandermin

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidonfim2381 Imagine if you were put in a large plastic ball & you had to run around in it. You wouldn't be able to control the ball's movements & you'd potentially get injured. The same goes for hamsters, plus they're prey animals, so being put in a ball on an open floor causes them to panic, hence why they try their best to run.

@c.a.fontaine1074

3 жыл бұрын

My syrian hamster is living in a large cage(a bit over 500 square inches) he now has an 11 inch wheel(he's very small for a syrian). He has chew toys, 3 hides and 2 different water dishes. I have mixed different food mixes so he gets proper nutrition. I have also had to be very patient with him because he is very skittish.

My red eared sliders are 16yrs old. I love them.

Thank you for keeping your voice so quiet, it helps me not get caught by my mom at night.

My western painted was abandoned when he was just 2 inches wide. My aunt found him in the mall and I took him in in November. He has MBD because he was raised without lights. He was left with a 5 gallon tank with no way to get out of the little bit of dirty water he had. His food was too big to fit in his mouth. I'm so happy we have him now.

Thank you for posting! I rescued my red-eared slider, Honey, from neglect, and she is THRIVING now!

It's so great that your videos reach so many people, please keep it up. I worked decades in the pet industry and felt like I was just on repeat - "turtles need heat and UV and space" - and just felt helpless because nobody listens and so many other people (like pet stores) enable impulsive behavior. I own a redfoot, but avoid videos about them on social media because I'm afraid of seeing bad husbandry that will make me upset (like all of the articles about the redfoot living in a box for 30 years. So bogus and hurtful to the species!).

I have a slider and unfortunately I had no clur so in beginning took horrible care thanks to videos like this one Henry( my turtle) is happy and spoiled. 🥰🥰

Your video is so interesting and makes sense, I had my male tortoise since I was 6 years old and I'm now 23 years old and it's still alive, I have bought 3 female tortoises for him, one of them is still alive, I bought it in 2016, and now I have more than 17 tortoises in my yard!!, I really enjoy watching them, and every year I find new hatching eggs!! I started raising Red eared sliders, I raised ducks, cats, dogs, lobsters, pigeons, rabbits and now I'm raising fish and chickens, I really enjoy raising turtles and tortoises....

I got my Lucille when she was 4 and a half years old. .She is a red eared slider. Got her at petsmart and paid 25 dollars for her. We had her since 2017. I put alotta money towards her. She has the lightening, heating, and basking that she needs. Changing and cleaning her tank, takes my boyfriend and I 2 and a half hours. Her personality is huge. Very loved and very spoiled. She is worth it all. Along with her sister. We also have a beardie. My girls are my world.

It’s so true. I’ve met so many people who brought home turtles without being briefed at all on how to care for them, what kind of habitat they need & how long their lifespans are. I don’t fault them entirely because it’s the job of the distributor to educate pet owners but I know in my experience, I had to do all the research myself & I wish others would do the same before taking them on. Order a book, talk to hobbyist, do whatever you have to do to get it dialed in. And prepare to be roommates for a long time! If you’re not ready for that kind of commitment, get a dog or cat.

I have two YBS right now and I 100% agree. My cousin has a YBS in a 5 gallon and its very sad. I'm trying my best to get him a bigger tank but this is why. People don't look ahead at how big and how much they really require. Sort of like a goldfish.

Betta fish are definitely up there as the most neglected pet. I told my sister they’re supposed to live for a good number of years if they’re in a large enough and clean tank and she was like “yeah but I don’t want it to live that long so I’m not doing that” and still wants one

My family has kept our red ear slider for 10 years now, my aunt bought her in a food market (I am Chinese living in China and no I don’t get why some people would eat turtles). We have a little backyard so we put her in the yard except in winter, and she has a rock tub filled with water, she can get in if she wants, other times she is usually under some flowers or bamboos in the yards. We fed her chicken breast, recently mom bought some shrimps for her. We didn’t have any knowledge about how to properly keep a reptile/turtle in particular, but now I’m gradually realizing that she is living a lucky and good life :,) we will keep doing good for her

We have both a tortoise and a turtle, both were rescued from neglectful homes. The Sulcata Tortoise is 130+ pounds, and was kept in a small outdoor dog pen, maybe 15 feet across, and has some pyramiding and shell problems. The turtle was in about an inch and a half of water with no filter or circulation and fed maybe once a month. They're both thriving and very spoiled boys now

I got three turtles like four months ago. I didn’t know anything about it. I got all the things I needed to take care of it but I still needed research. Everyday I still research about my turtles so I can make sure they’re safe and healthy. I hope my turtles can live a long life

broadly, turtles and tortoises. more specifically, aquatic turtles most specifically, red earred sliders

I did lots of research before getting my two musk turtles. I went to a horticulture and animal college where we had to take care of and learn about turtles and other animals so luckily I had a good idea about them! There's so much info and knowledge people can miss out on which is why it's important to know what you're getting into beforehand. The guy in the store I got them from told me this small tank is enough for them to live in for the rest of their lives but I ended up getting them a really long big tank when they got bigger so they could have plenty of room.

My sister saved a neglected turtle, for two years he lived in a small travel tank with little food. Now he lives with the family and has been growing ever since.

Alex i appreciate you so much.

met a guy whose son(? i think) has a bunch of reptiles and birds at his house and recently he had a baby red eared slider and two tiny soft shelled turtles in ~10 gallon tank with just rocks and barely any water. no heating, no light, and they were also left in a car all night and then in the cold rain later in the day. it broke me heart and a lot of the animals there were equally as neglected and it was just so sad to see all these poor animals in too small enclosures with barely or no accommodations or enrichment.

"I guess I do know where I'll be in 150 years..." ⚰️ LoL, Alex. Awesome job explaining a lot of the reasons why turtles have such a hard time in captivity. We love our Eastern Box Turtle, who certainly gets treated like family because he is, but I've seen a lot of what you're talking about, and it sucks, because they're such nice animals. I hope you're well. We really enjoy your videos in this household. Thank you for all of your time and effort. Tell Franklin I say hello. 💗🐢

Great video! I have an African sulcata and a red eared slider in NM and they're both happy boys. I think we should just inform people about these problems and try to make our turtles lives betters

As a worker at an animal rescue yeah turtle are the bane of my existence. We litterly get 100s of red eared sliders a month.

This is so sad but so true. I have 7 aquatic turtles that take up a lot of space, time and money. Their habitats, if done properly are costly to setup. Keeping their water clean is a chore, so a giant canister filter is a must. They require so much more than people realize because most of the time research is not done beforehand.

Turtles are my favorite reptile. Thank you for this video and all the close up shots of your turtle's adorable little face

I got my 2 red ear sliders at a flea market but I was a child so I didnt think about how much care they would need anyways I'm just proud to say that I still have them healthy and alive after 4 years

I think about 3 out of 5 times that I confront a stranger at the pet store about turtles, bettas, gold fish, or most pets.. They either change their mind on impulse buying until they do research or they change the setup with my help.. One time I actually helped this moment and her 10 year old son get all the stuff for a betta fish. When he was 5, he wanted a betta but she said to wait until he's at least 10. Well he was still interested and so I met them while they were looking at the fish. I kept in touch with them and saw the set up they had after a week of introducing the fish. I'll never forget them 🥺

I was incredibly lucky with my red eared slider. She was a class pet that got passed on to me in 5th grade. By the time we got her she was already to big to humanely house in a tank. We kept her for about a year and tried to do right by her by giving her outside time and gave her live baby fish for enrichment. However eventually we found a nature center that releases them back into their natural habitat.

Another problem is that people don't know how to tell a turtle or tortoise apart. I have seen before that someone threw a tortoise 'back' into the sea. Was able to save it - but that is something I keep seeing - even when it comes to housing them (wrongly).

Red eared sliders have a massive population in Ontario, which goes to show how hardy they are. I remember catching them as a kid every weekend in the summer

I definitely want to get a turtle at some point, but I’m waiting until I’m done with college and figure out basically where I’m going to live for most of my life. Moving around a ton with a turtle just sounds terrible

I'm taking in a friend's yellow-bellied slider this week and I have been obsessively researching the setup I'll need. I have to buy all the materials myself and it has been hard to find space and get my shit together. I'm still really excited tho and I expect my new fbudy to be with me for the rest of his life

I rescued my red-eared slider out of a community chlorinated pool that he couldn't get out of and he had to have been maybe 2 weeks old. But he is my priority animal. I went from general knowledge of turtles because my grandparents owned several to learning new thing all the time and eminently change it for his better. I think that's thanks to this channel educating me on the abuse of turtles. Even though I didn't want him and I just happened upon him I play on keeping him through the whole way. If your wondering he's just been upgraded to a 35 gallon because he's getting bigger he has a basking spot on top of the tank, with a UVB heating bulb and water heater and I'm using a 50-100gal canister filter so i can continue to upgrade him

I'm glad your spreading the word about this, unfortunately chelonia are abused to often, I've gotten abused, injured, and one that was almost dead, I love them to death, I've gotten turtles that people can't care for due to them getting to big, I wish I could do more, but I'm doing what I can, hopefully we'll be able to stop the animals in key chains one day.

I clicked on this video really fast because I have 2 turtles rn in seperate tanks. I agree with you saying theyre really dirty animals. I live in an apartment where they don't care that I have turtles which is nice. Whenever we need the maintenance guys to come or the ladies at the front office come by, they always stop to say hi to my babies and even know them by name. I really want a diamondback terrapin turtle but with how close they are to being endangered and with all the laws in my state I can't get one which sucks. Thank you for educating people on this though since I've seen so many neglected turtles with no basking areas.

I agree about turtles being the most neglected animals ever! I work at a pet store and the times I've heard of a red ear older than 3 years old in a 10 gal is astronomical!

Being from the UK, the red eared slider is such a stunning looking turtle, I'm surprised people aren't keeping them in large ponds. We don't have any invasive turtles here in the UK as it is cold here (down to -10°c in winter) Just acquired my first turtle (a male golden thread) but he was fairly hard to acquire, as I had to find a breeder in my local area as there are no reptiles sold commercially near me. But they are fantastic and I look forward to the next 30-40 years with my golden thread 👌

It is so sad that any animal is neglected, but thanks to people like you to spread awareness it can help them. And I just want to say thank you because I got a leopard gecko not to long ago from a local reptile store (50+ years experience) and I found your channel while doing research, your videos have made me so much more confident and comfortable not only with how I'm caring for her but also how I handle her. I'm so grateful I found your channel and I just want to say thank you, I can't wait to see your business grow!😁🦎💚 you do such an amazing job with all of your animals.

I agree with this video. It's so so so sad how these beautiful reptiles are treated. They are living creatures and should be treated with respect. I have a two year old red eared slider that I love dearly. I found him as a baby half-dead on the floor of the bathroom, revived him, and now he's mine forever ❤😭

I have a black-bellied slider that my parents gave me when I was 6. Today he is 16 years old, and I am not proud of how I treated him for the last 10 years. We neglected him, and knowing the things I know now, I dont know how he even is alive. He has a pulmonary problem (not pneumonia, but probably caused by one) that makes it hard for him to swim, and he makes the whezing sound when he stays too much in the water. So we are currently alternating between a provisory water space and our living room, where he have access to direct sunlight whenever he wants, and his shell is getting better, little by little. We did this becaus he actually didn't like to stay at his aquarium, he would not let me sleep since we started taking him out sometimes to put him on the living room. Today we can see that he is happy with his new lifestyle and we are looking for ways of doing a new terrarium that would fulfill his necessities

I just recently had to keep my RES in the bathtub for a while, too, and you are not kidding about the easy water changes! He’s now back in his 75 gal setup, but I’m trying to figure out a setup that will work like the bathtub, without actually BEING the bathtub; we only have one in the house!

@briannaharter4411

3 жыл бұрын

A automatic water change system is most likely what you are looking for or possibly a gravel vac that connects to a sink. Basicly go ask fish keepers how they make water changes easier.

Thanks to your channel, I didnt get a reptile when I wasnt prepared. Thanks.

@GoHerping pease do a video putting all of your reptiles in a tier list based on their coloration and overall look alone o think that would be awesome

i just took in a res that was severely neglected, shes six years old but only one inch cuz she was kept in a 5 gallon, no uvb, no calcium, etc. now shes in a 55 gallon with tons of stuff to do the right diet and a basking spot with uvb. she may never grow but hopefully shes happy now. turtles are SO much more work than you'd think. they're also so messy, even with a good filter I have to do so many water changes.

@Neoncaffeine

2 жыл бұрын

sounds like your red eared sliders rescue story is super similar to mine. thank you for rescuing franklin.

This is so sad...I adore my tortie, Morla, more than I ever imagined possible! And imagining her or her brethren suffering neglect breaks my heart! But yes, torties are a LOT of work to KEEP RIGHT! Morla needs fresh veggies and great variety. Not all the grocery store veggies are actually healthy for them, so it takes work to research, locate, and constantly go get them (darn produce doesn't last very long--and it's not cheap either!) She needs a lot of space (which means a lot substrate, amd cleaning day is a production!) and to keep humidity and temperatures correct, get enough UVB coverage across the whole enclosure, and do the daily spot cleaning (because I don't like having pee and poop sitting there, so I completely remove it/all affected substrate/wash her up too), takes time and is a constant expense $$$. And because she was a rescue from (I believe unintentional) neglect, she ended up costing me almost $2k in vet bills within the first year of having her in order to save her life and deal with the issues her prior owner's ignorance caused. Though (hopefully!) most ppl won't start their tortie ownership this way, finding a truly competent vet experienced with your specific species of reptile is a MUST! Remember: THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A GENERIC TURTLE OR TORTOISE OR LIZARD/SNAKE/ETC. Each species of tortoise (or other animal) has its own dietary needs, habitat conditions, and characteristics/expected temperament. It's vital they truly know them!)

I’ve had my turtle since I was around 8 and my dad has researched so much and taught me how to properly take care of it and she is rate now living in around a 70 gallon tank and I’m still researching because I want her to live her best life

My rosy boa, hognose, milk snake, and 2 of my T’s were impulse bought but the second I got them I did all the research and I already had tanks (empty and sanitized) and food ready and all I had to do was make some hides and anchor points for the T’s and some climbing enrichment for the snakes. Literally this is the best case scenario for impulse buy, they’re happy healthy and growing

Yep, when I was little we got a red earred slider at a swap meet for a quarter, we had him for about 5-7 years before he got too big. Luckily my teacher at the time had a pond and some turtles. So he spent some time as the class pet before being moved to the pond.

Thanks for doing this Alex, I suggested to Clint that he make this video a while back (but he apparently didn't understand what I was suggesting lol)

Your tweets are valid 👍

i think a reason people think turtles are easy to keep is because in media turtles and tortoises are portrayed as slow moving animals that dont do anything. and therefore people probably think since they dont do much, that the person themselves wont need to do much either.