more positive videos on the way shortly... until then, do you have any stories of animals being shipped to or from you? speaking of, I've reopened the intake kits, so if you're looking to rehome you can get in line at emeraldscales.com/rehome

@kotu4thawrld51

3 жыл бұрын

Hey I have a leopard gecko I might rehome

@charscritters8765

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t really wanna take the risk

@charscritters8765

3 жыл бұрын

And I love my beardie

@Sheytopia

3 жыл бұрын

I have shipped leopard geckos, snakes and fish (to me and from me) and so far everything went well. But in Germany we cannot ship via normal package couriers. We have to pay a lot more for special animal shipment. so the conditions are a little different.

@attacatz8945

3 жыл бұрын

We were having an ivory millipede shipped to us awhile ago and they were shipped in a smaller box that clearly said "LIVE ANIMAL". The guy delivering the pet was... spinning the box as if it was a basketball. My girlfriend told them in that box was a live animal and that it really shouldn't be spun and thrown around lol. They apologized but continued to...play with it until they came to the door. :/ Luckily, our millipede is okay and happy to today! But I'm sure that kind of stress would've done some damage to a small gecko/snake.

As an Ex-Fed contractor, I'll tell you, sometimes packages fall from a high shelf, sometimes Heavy stuff falls onto them or slides into them and sometimes the package handlers or delivery drivers are just absent-mindedly tossing & flipping the package. Last year had such high package volume that these things occur more often because of overloaded trucks and strict schedules. I'm honestly horrified that there isn't a national pet delivery service.

@somethingcats

3 жыл бұрын

There should be Pet delivery service!!!!! People would use it so much

@sleepysundew9544

3 жыл бұрын

Looks like I gotta make one

@beafraid2951

3 жыл бұрын

When my gecko was delivered I saw the delivery driver jump off the back of the truck while holding my box under his arm. I was pissed. I let him know the animal was in there and opened tha package immediately. She was fine, thank God, but could have died.

@nilankumarage9589

3 жыл бұрын

@@beafraid2951 shut up beaf

@harleytyler9899

3 жыл бұрын

@@nilankumarage9589 lmfaoo really R u a child?

Having flashbacks to that time Emily (Snake Discovery) had a delivery driver spinning a box he was about to deliver.

@hebebebe139

3 жыл бұрын

I saw this and thought the exact same thing. I remember she saw the delivery guy spinning the box by the corners on his fingers 🥺

@warriorxxwarrior

3 жыл бұрын

Literally what I was thinking about!

@ItMeSinamenRoll

3 жыл бұрын

@@hebebebe139 oh it was horrifying. I had a pit in my stomach that whole video.

@sigmagrindsettipswithpatri3323

3 жыл бұрын

Link?

@honeyschannel6494

3 жыл бұрын

@@ItMeSinamenRoll please

On a happier note: when I got my gargoyle gecko shipped to me the fed ex guy knocked on the door because he didn't want to leave a live animal outside ♥️

@chrisallison6974

3 жыл бұрын

Mine left my crested gecko outside while it was raining

@irisnora1525

3 жыл бұрын

@@chrisallison6974 wow that sucks

@chrisallison6974

3 жыл бұрын

@@irisnora1525 luckily i was home and i heard them walk up tho

@irisnora1525

3 жыл бұрын

@@chrisallison6974 oh good. Still i wish people cared more about the animals :/

@mammadingo9165

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks there are good people out there too.

Lep Gecko 1: "Dude, I swear, I was in my cage, then all of a sudden, everything went black" Lep Gecko 2: "Uh, sure, whatever you say" Lep Gecko 1: "No, really. I could hear muffled voices and couldn't move" Lep Gecko 2: "Alien abduction, right? Lep Gecko 1: "YES! I was on several space ships for hours and ended up here" Lep Gecko 2: "Look. Just stay on your side of the cage and don't talk to me anymore"

I work at FedEx and the tl;dr I have to give is: the facilities are not safe for animals. It’s loud, it’s stressful, boxes get mishandled and abused on the belts all the time, and I feel legitimate terror thinking about the possibility of there being an animal somewhere in one of these boxes.

@monaproof

3 жыл бұрын

this ! :( i work here and every time i see a ‘live animal’ package i panick. i’m always gentle w them but drivers are getting wayyy too much volume lately and barely fitting everything in their trucks so i always feel like they’ll inevitably get accidentally squished under all the big stuff

I've heard a LOT of horror stories of packages with live animals being literally spun or thrown by the delivery person, so I wouldn't be so quick to rule it out.

@zrc1514

3 жыл бұрын

I remember when Snake Discovery was being shipped a Grey Banded Kingsnake, the delivery guy was spinning the box by the corners. When they ran out to stop him because there was an animal in there, he just went “oh, what kind”. Like bruh

@jessierodriguez8533

3 жыл бұрын

@@zrc1514 I remember that video 😒 dude sounded like he honestly didn't care. They were pretty upset too

@isip0ki

3 жыл бұрын

@@jessierodriguez8533 Can I have a link to the video?

@BuggggZapperBob

3 жыл бұрын

That happened with my ball python. He was spun then dropped (from a few feet) onto our porch, and left IN THE SUN, *IN SUMMER,* without ringing the bell or knocking. We only knew he arrived because we had a Ring doorbell.

@briannelson3830

3 жыл бұрын

Happened a couple days ago to me wtf is wrong with these fuckers

GoHerping: Exposing the shadow side of the reptile world.

@GoHerping

3 жыл бұрын

plenty more where this came from

@jurassicparkreptiles1816

3 жыл бұрын

@@GoHerping I'd like to see more

@jurassicparkreptiles1816

3 жыл бұрын

@Isabella Steller nice

@dreadnorth8745

3 жыл бұрын

Jokes aside this is a bigger issue than I thought. I'm pretty glad Alex made this video.

@Quacktum

3 жыл бұрын

@@GoHerping oh god

I’ve adopted all my animals from shelters. And picked all of them up myself. Even driving 9 hours to pick up a leopard gecko. The reason: the first three reptiles I tried to own (all from different sellers: a ball Python, leopard gecko, and bearded dragon.) died during shipping. I was handed each box by the deliverer within 24 hours of them being shipped... and each box I opened had a dead animal. It broke my heart. I’m so glad that you keep records of when and why these things happen.

@davidlindquist1499

3 жыл бұрын

Then on the other hand I've ordered dozens of animals and never had a DOA

@poppiesandredwoods

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidlindquist1499 good for you. I’m glad you’ve never had to deal with it.

@novelle7212

3 жыл бұрын

Aww that sucks, sorry you've had to go through that. However, its glad your grabbing those from shelters and giving them homes!

@poppiesandredwoods

3 жыл бұрын

@@novelle7212 yeah. I’ve always rescued senior dogs so that they can spend their last days happy and healthy... I figured, why not do that with the reptiles to. 🙂

@novelle7212

3 жыл бұрын

@@poppiesandredwoods thats amazing ;-; I dunno why but when people say they rescue senior animals so they have a good end of their life it makes me wanna cry

All these comments are really putting into perspective how scary it can be sometimes to ship reptiles. a month ago I got a beautiful baby bearded dragon shipped to me and I was scared he would die during shipping, he arrived perfectly safe thankfully. we really need a shipping service strictly for shipping live animals or fragile things like plants and whatnot.

the way stan hasn't moved since last video >

@GoHerping

3 жыл бұрын

he literally hasn't

@beafraid2951

3 жыл бұрын

Last videos "is this bearded dragon setup cruel?" Obviously no because anything you put in there Stan will ignore or try to fight 😂 he doesn't even use the enclosure as it is now! Lol

@nilankumarage9589

3 жыл бұрын

@@beafraid2951 shut up beaf

@ladyvoldything

3 жыл бұрын

@@nilankumarage9589 what kind of deranged stalker are you lmao

@resiliencevideos

3 жыл бұрын

@@ladyvoldything shut up voldy

I have a horror story for you, and the error isn’t one of the ones you mentioned. Girlfriend had a red knee tarantula, and needed to move from where she lived to where I am. She went to a local exotic pet specialty store and got all the things to ship her spider with their advice, and went to FedEx and paid for priority overnight shipping. FedEx straight up left her spider at the processing facility FOR A WEEK, and said that they couldn’t do anything because there was a backlog due to covid. She phoned them every day to try and get it specially expedited, no dice. Then there was about a month of incidence escalation to get her money back.

@Jamjamsart

3 жыл бұрын

Im guessing it didn't survive....? Thats just ridiculous though, ok a backlog i get it but PRIORITIZE LIVE FUCKING ANIMALS JESUS

@themurrrr

3 жыл бұрын

@@Kitty_Sakura This!

@annasstorybox7906

2 жыл бұрын

I was almost wanting to ask why she didn't put that spider in a transport box and took it with her but living in Germany I always forget about how big the US (I assume due to FedEx being mentioned) is... Therefore my first reaction was why the shoebox sized transport box didn't fit in the moving truck/ car or why she didn't take it onto the train or something... But yea... I guess it's not viable to take such a box on board a plane as one can do with small dogs in one of these special bags/baskets...

@infernvsnecrohag

2 жыл бұрын

​@@annasstorybox7906 Close, Canada, which is actually significantly larger than the US, haha. She actually packaged the spider in such a way that she could take it with her on the plane, after calling the airline and asking if that was possible. Then the agents or whoever take in baggage refused, so she had to make the decision to ship the spider priority postage. The spider was packed with heat packs in such a way that it should've been able to survive shipping since the store helped her plan for possible contingencies.

I was going to take in a ball python from someone that was moving. I asked for photos if the animals, and the guy gave excuse after excuse as to why he couldn't send photos of the snake. Then he totally ghosted me after I asked how it was being cared for. I had a feeling this person wasn't caring for the animal properly 😔

@TealVT

3 жыл бұрын

if they had the animal at all - might have been a scam

@Mysderdragoness

3 жыл бұрын

@@TealVT or dead

@marseillejoh

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe that guy even don't have a snake.

on hot pack mistakes, as Kamp Kenan says; "heat will kill a reptile faster than the cold".

@darkbowranger96

3 жыл бұрын

Lol he proved that when his monitor froze

@yeetghostrat

3 жыл бұрын

@@darkbowranger96 :') slinky bby

@kingdre7492

3 жыл бұрын

All his animals are sick or dying 🤣🤣🤣

@yeetghostrat

3 жыл бұрын

@@kingdre7492 he just has a lot of animals, and they're all ones who were brought to him. The ones getting sick have mostly all been old or very recently acquired, Slinky being the acception, and that was a major bad luck fluke.

I think video tutorials on how to package correctly would be a good addition to the website just for those people who do better with a visual demonstration

@GoHerping

3 жыл бұрын

people get sent video tutorials when sending animals in, they're just not posted on the site

@danielcepeda2408

3 жыл бұрын

@@GoHerping why don't you post a youtube vid about the topic? I would def be interested!

@ladyjinyxx

3 жыл бұрын

I know I've seen him explain it a few times if you look through his unboxing videos, I learned a lot watching those

Thank you for being the voice that brings up hard topics that add to the conversation.

@moooncellular

3 жыл бұрын

wait what it says it was uploaded 10 minutes ago but ur comment 17 hours ago

@Anya-tz5je

3 жыл бұрын

@@moooncellular Patreon

@thisisbadpoetry

3 жыл бұрын

@@moooncellular patreon early access

@ballpythonsarecool5437

3 жыл бұрын

@@moooncellular patreon gets early access

@Dwyer2021

3 жыл бұрын

I read this so poorly I thought you were complimenting his voice

It’s a shame not even mail carriers/delivery services care about how they treat animals They just yeet the box like it’s nothing. And that’s quite sad. Why would you want a precious creature to experience that?

@Velcraft

3 жыл бұрын

Postal workers are extremely underpaid, overworked, and overpressured to make deliveries quick. It's basically the "it's not like we have a gun to their heads" argument from the management side, all the while the management keeps telling employees that if they don't make their routes under an estimated time they'll be "scrutinised" (read: shortly afterwards unemployed). For the postal workers, it's not about what's in the boxes, it's about running 30sec late to an apartment block and having to make that time up any means necessary or they won't feed their kids. We need more humanity in our workspace to be more humane.

@addercat

3 жыл бұрын

USPS doesn’t ship reptiles. So your mail carrier isn’t doing that.

@disneymore7941

3 жыл бұрын

@@addercat others do, though. USPS isn't the only mail carrier that exists...

@kingexplosionmurderfuckoff9376

3 жыл бұрын

@@Velcraft As if that's a fucking excuse

@niveusnimbus

3 жыл бұрын

@@Velcraft so what powers do customers have to bring more humanity to the delivery workplace?

It always breaks my heart how poorly people care for their animals. Its even worse when I try to educate them (I work at a pet store) and they actually tell me that they don't care or that they're "willing to take the risk" on improper care :(

@kirbyprincess7125

3 жыл бұрын

I hate that!! I work at a local pet store and when I try to teach people how small animals need to properly be cared for it drives me MAD that they choose ignorance. Especially with hamsters :(

@RedQueenKae

3 жыл бұрын

@@kirbyprincess7125 a lady at my job today wanted to put 2 gerbils in the smallest hamster cage we sell :( She told me she rescues animals all the time but I honestly dont believe that if she thinks gerbils can go in something that small :(

@maddiesmenagerie8853

3 жыл бұрын

This is why i'll never work at a pet store.

@mammadingo9165

3 жыл бұрын

Don't stop telling them .❤️👍

@mammadingo9165

3 жыл бұрын

@@RedQueenKae I hope you can refuse sale in those situations .

Snake discovery managed to catch their delivery person spinning and tossing the box around that held geckos and a snake (I think). It was labeled all over that it was a live animal. They ran out and yelled at him and his response was to catch it after tossing it and asking “really? What kind?” No remorse. It chills me to think what the poor critters go through in the mail system..... That would be a good video! Put a hidden camera in one of the boxes peaking out and see what happens. Possibly ship like 10 camera packages all over the US to see.

@GoHerping

3 жыл бұрын

lol that'd be interesting. I think most of the video would just be pitch black in a truck or plane. But you'd have to disclose the camera since it has a lithium ion battery

@blazertundra

3 жыл бұрын

There's a reason the later seasons of Mythbusters used those stickers to check to see if Buster "died" from an impact. Way too many people in the shipping industry just don't care. Depending on how expensive they are, maybe one could go in each box shipped from Emerald Scales? I wonder if the animals that died for no reason were subjected to a drop or something.

@TheJunky228

3 жыл бұрын

oh god seriously?! that's terrible :( it's one thing to be careless about merchandise, but it's a whole 'nother monstrous ability to be careless about live animals

@ColdBloodedCare

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheJunky228 I think its also the fact that these parcel carriers are severely underpaid and have extremely tight schedules, it just adds to the problem.

@eatingcontestchamp20

3 жыл бұрын

Was that in a video? Do you have a link?

I had someone at home watching for my leo to arrive and she sees the delivery truck stop outside my house and leave a white box with red lettering on our neighbor's porch and drive away. She gets up and goes over to check and sure enough, the driver left my leo at the wrong house.

@beafraid2951

3 жыл бұрын

That makes me so mad! What if the person opened it, was scared of reptiles (very common) and dropped it or something? Geez

@alicia5508

3 жыл бұрын

@@beafraid2951 i would probably be scared because i am scared of animals but still love them

@nilankumarage9589

3 жыл бұрын

@@beafraid2951 shut up beaf

@RedQueenKae

3 жыл бұрын

I had the fedex guy spinning the box around as he walked up to give me the package (I was doing yard work). It very obviously said "live animal" on it..

@Taystee

3 жыл бұрын

@@nilankumarage9589 daddy chill

That video clip of the thin BP breaks my heart... I can't imagine letting an animal get that bad, and then thinking they're strong enough to handle being shipped.. People can be so careless, it's shameful. And the dishonesty in not sending up-to-date / correct pictures, unbelievable..

@FluffyPancakes36

3 жыл бұрын

I think that python is still alive, at least, it survived shipping and a little more. It is super sad, not denying that, but I think he had an okay go at the rescue.

@laurelh1975

3 жыл бұрын

@@FluffyPancakes36 Definitely that's a possibility, but he has documented before ball pythons in that shape or worse, and unfortunately they don't make it, because the previous owner was just focused on getting rid of the animal without thinking of "will this animal even survive the trip?" And again, Alex stated he has had DOAs before..or survived for maybe an hour or two but died very quickly. That skinny snake is just a visual example of how some animals arrive. Some may improve and that's great, but a lot that get shipped in that condition don't make it. It may not be the majority that get shipped like that in the first place, but the fact remains, it does happen, and animals do die as a result.

Seems like it's pretty safe to ship reptiles if you aren't an idiot and didn't torture your reptile for months prior to the shipping lol

@GoHerping

3 жыл бұрын

basically

I love this channel because you don't just smile and say everything is fine, you are willing to expose the dark underbelly of the reptile community while still keeping and working with reptiles.

in the uk you can only ship reptiles with a certified animal courier, not through any regular postal servicce and i think that's how it should be anywhere, even with a small percentage of fatalities it's not worth the risk, like some animals will still die, and i have a hard time justifying that

@GoHerping

3 жыл бұрын

I disagree with more regulations in general, especially because fedex's track record is too good to deny and experienced sellers know what they're doing. A certified shipper wouldn't make a difference with a sick animal that can't survive the trip anyways

@elliecowell3412

3 жыл бұрын

@@GoHerping I totally agree with it not making a difference for a sick animal - it sounds like your shipping services are much more reliable in the states, fedex and ups are notorious over here for missing packages, delays etc. and admittedly it's more viable for us to use specialists as the distances are much shorter and so it doesn't rack up hundreds in fees. It sucks that people don't follow your instructions, I know it's not your fault as a seller when that happens - we rehab-rehome too and have had a few instances of animals passing in their new homes due to them not following advice, espeically as we have rehomed some special needs animals to people wo have talked the talk very well and ended up being complete idiots, it's all a learning experience as a seller though and it's just a hard part of the industry to come to terms with ig :)

The unexplained deaths could be attributed to something about the animal (maybe it had a very low stress tolerance despite being healthy?)

@beafraid2951

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, or maybe it just wasn't bred properly or had some kind of genetic fluke that caused it to suddenly pass. I think the Leopard gecko he described "just sleeping" probably died of heart failure. That could've been because the gecko reached the end of its possible lifespan. Couldve been stress related. We will never know

@user-dm5pv6fm8g

3 жыл бұрын

Besides stress, lots of shipping company’s will have people that throw and flip the box while shipping them, or stuff dropping on them.

@CheshieD

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-dm5pv6fm8g well when the box is in perfect condition that’s different

@junkerowo

3 жыл бұрын

@@CheshieD just spinning or even dropping a box may not damage the box. you can't tell

I love how transparent you are with everything and it’s refreshing to have an honest pet channel that shows cons with the pros of even the dark side

It's much appreciated that you covered a difficult topic that a lot of people don't discuss, and very many people don't even think about the shipping aspect of the reptile industry. Progressive content, thank you.

@GoHerping

3 жыл бұрын

thanks!

Dang 40-50 people on the blacklist? That’s crazy, I would love to hear stories lol

@GoHerping

3 жыл бұрын

i was thinking of doing a worst customers episode lol. I'd like to do worst enclosure submissions but I gues that may be a copyright issues using their images

@CHloE748

3 жыл бұрын

@@GoHerping that’s totally fair use though, I don’t think you could get copyright claimed just for using a pic someone sent to you or that you found from the internet. Just keep them anonymous and you should be good, that would be an incredible video!

I'll never order an animal online, my post man just throws my post down my stairs at my front door any way. My feeder insects barely make it, let alone a reptile.

@niveusnimbus

3 жыл бұрын

I've seen delivery drivers throw packages over 5 feet fences. Hopefully nothing fragile in those. It really depends on how much they care :/

The mystery deaths could be because they couldn't handle stress or because the package was mistreated. Most likely the second one

I have an idea for you: how about charging people money as a sort of deposit. "Follow the instructions and we will return XY dollars back to you. If not, we'll keep it."

@Mrholysymbol

3 жыл бұрын

Actually a good idea it doesn't need to be an expensive deposit but at least like...25$-50$

@leventetoth3919

3 жыл бұрын

This is a great idea. I think most of the time people will follow the instructions if it's about money!

@alexreid1173

3 жыл бұрын

This is an awesome idea. I hope he does that!

@stevejuggler

3 жыл бұрын

I think he talked about this in a recent video. If I remember correctly, it’s not a deposit but a straight payment. Correct me if I’m wrong!

@Sheytopia

3 жыл бұрын

@@stevejuggler it's not about what he's currently doing. my comment was a suggestion to keep people from not following the instructions correctly. Money usually motivates. So the payment for the intake kit PLUS an instruction deposit.

Now that I have watched the whole video I have 1 thing to say. Thank you for presenting this subject in a compassionate well-presented manner.

I don't know about shipping services in the US, here are some things noticed when visiting a center of a shipping service in Germany where packets are sorted: The first thing is that the air conditioning in the building was broken when I was there, so the temperature was really really high all the time. (So the temperature along the way doesn't only depend on the weather). At some point in the sorting process they use slides to sort the packages, leading the packages to accelerate and bump into each other. In addition, I don't think the people working there are reading what's written on every package, they just have to put them from one spot to another the whole day. As far as I know this shipping service doesn't allow live animals to be shipped. Maybe other shipping services are different, I don't know.

@chiefbigsad7995

3 жыл бұрын

most shipping services in the US take live animals. but the way we package them is far from inconspicuous. standard packaging is a white box with giant red lettering saying live animal, on all sides. its so very obvious compared to other packages theyd have to be very dumb or just not care to mishandle it. most of the time they will get sorted by hand specifically to avoid killing the animal (depending on service and shipping locations. and employees of course), and usually this is just done because having your brand being responsible for the death of a very expensive, or rare/endangered animal is bad optics.

@julieewaah

3 жыл бұрын

in Germany we have special pet delivery services. they also call you most likely the day before and give you a time when they arrive.

Maintaining a blacklist is a great measure to be taking to help ensure the well-being of your animals. Well wishes. Love your honesty in these videos.

I can just imagine the pain that owner felt shipping there baby away, giving them hat one last bath, feeding them one last time, loving them one last time before they send them away.. that one last little look they get from them.. it breaks my heart 😭❤

Used to work at a parcel sorting warehouse, 99% of my co-workers did not care at all if the boxes had fragile stickers or a 'this way up' sign, no matter the weight, any and all were thrown, including electronics, so we had plenty of PCs bouncing. Heavy large boxes are put on top of small ones. A big mess. The supervisors didn't care, they did the same. I've pretty much stopped shopping online because I know how my items are treated now. Your items can be repackaged a lot since the box gets damaged so much and you won't even know, or your item gets damaged and a new one has to get shipped out to you, again without your knowledge.

I ordered a box of 500 crickets and the vendor shipped through UPS. Big mistake cause when i got the crickets: 1. they were packed in a awful way, the vendor just threw a chunk of potato in the box loose among the egg cartons so a large portion of the crickets were a mashed mess when i opened the box. (The vendor was very defensive about it when i confronted then about it. Never ordering from them again.) 2. UPS had obviously handled the box very roughly, it was smashed on one end and there was a sizable hole torn on the side so even more of the crickets got out during shipping and i had only got like a quarter of the crickets i had ordered. 3. I made a formal complaint to UPS but their response was just "haha OPPS SORRY." and that's it. If anyone ever ships any invertebrate/vertebrate, just dont ship UPS. Every time Ive gotten something from them it's been smashed and just tossed at my front door. I always make sure FedEx is used now when ever i order feeder insects since my overall experience with their service in my area is very good.

@tradeka4206

3 жыл бұрын

UPS literally doesn’t give a shit. I spent over $1000 on an armored off road bumper for my truck and it was being shipped through UPS. It took a month longer than it was supposed to to arrive (which I kind of understand because it’s a huge item to ship) and then when it got here and I opened it it was bent nearly in half. They managed to damage a steel bumper in shipping, it doesn’t surprise me that they end up killing animals

@jukesngambits

3 жыл бұрын

Yea crap service is what you get from people who don't actually need to worry about their customers not buying anymore

@Talkin-fr0g

3 жыл бұрын

It depends really- fed ex where I live is horrible but USPS has never given me any issues.

I had a good experience when I received my leo. FedEx did just set the box on my porch and not ring the doorbell, which was annoying, but I was home so I noticed right away

Can’t even imagine this. I have had NIGHTMARES about unintentionally neglecting animals. I would never. Shameful

@caseyp6714

3 жыл бұрын

Omg you get those nightmares too! I have those a lot. Where I somehow have pets I forgot about or something. It's awful.

@spaghettidoodle3611

3 жыл бұрын

I was wondering if anyone else got those nightmares

@Jamjamsart

3 жыл бұрын

Oof i have those too!!! Like ill suddenly find a snake or rodent or something i forgot i had

@careybowden4864

3 жыл бұрын

I used to have those nightmares! We kept our gerbils in the basement, really nice setup, but I would have nightmares where I didn't go down to take care of them and forgot about them... 😭

@Jamjamsart

3 жыл бұрын

@@careybowden4864 mine would be i'd have like a random room in my house i forgot existed for a long time and i'd open it to find a bunch of neglected animals.... or i'd find like small carrying cages or tanks under my bed or somewhere in my room.... tarrifying

You can ask people to send a picture with that day's newspaper with the date visible (or something with the date) - you know, like what kidnappers do....

@skateboard4375

3 жыл бұрын

@imunderpressure uggjhg Do you not get newspaper for free in your mail?? I do, every week!

@skateboard4375

3 жыл бұрын

@imunderpressure uggjhg okay, cool

@cassiescritters1

3 жыл бұрын

@@skateboard4375 in Australia you have to buy the newspaper from the newsagency

@skateboard4375

3 жыл бұрын

@@cassiescritters1 damn, that sucks

@ashleydavis169

3 жыл бұрын

@imunderpressure uggjhg You can ask them to show an online article and its date with the animal. News articles typically put down publishing dates

You gotta picture it from a reptile’s perspective How would YOU feel if you were put in a squished box, shipped across the country, and then flung from the truck? A creature getting shipped is the most stressful thing a pet can experience

@jurassicparkreptiles1816

3 жыл бұрын

I'd hate to be put in a box and shipped across the country

@RC-bs6eb

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds an awful lot like my ride to prison, except that only took maybe 3 or 4 hours that felt like days.

I thought it was illegal for the longest time here in Germany, apparently it isn't, but literally nobody ships their reptiles here. I've browsed multiple sites and it was always "pick up only". Germany is a small country, only the size of a US state, maybe that why and I don't know nor have I heard of international live shipping, but I'd rather not.

@L1997Lo

3 жыл бұрын

I think it’s also because of how expensive private shipping companies are here, when you ship life animals. And Deutsche Post is too slow obviously...

@wolfgangschumann4885

3 жыл бұрын

I live in Germany and got my Reptile shiped from a german Company. So there is shiping over here ;)

@julieewaah

3 жыл бұрын

We have animal shipping. there are a whole lot of company's who will ship live animals. There's also a very known reptile shop (MS Reptilien) who ships animals. they make an appointment for shipping with you.

@julieewaah

3 жыл бұрын

and I would say a lot ship their reptiles in Germany. You can even ship reptiles from the UK or the Netherlands to Germany.

For every species you ship out you should record a specific "how to pack a leopard gecko" or "how to pack a bearded dragon" video tutorial you can send to people that apparently can't read

@oliveb5768

3 жыл бұрын

I feel like if a person doesn’t care to read instructions, then they won’t care to watch the video eitherp

@vansa14

3 жыл бұрын

They get sent a video to their email. Clearly some people don’t watch that either.

@puddlebarf

3 жыл бұрын

@@oliveb5768 with that logic you could say they wouldn't care to ship the animal at all. Video entertainment is popular literally because its easier to consume than written

@AShatteredDragonsSpirit

3 жыл бұрын

@@puddlebarf the key word there is "entertainment". entertaining videos are fun and amusing to watch. a video instruction on how to pack a box is not entertaining, fun, or amusing. people who dont give a shit abt written instructions will most likely not give a shit abt video instructions. both routes of education still requires the person to be careful of how they pack the reptile, and,,, well, if they just dont care, then they just wont be careful. edit: goherping himself said that people get sent a video guide already, so. ig that solves that argument.

@xChijouChanx

3 жыл бұрын

It's not about not reading, it's about not caring

I Order a Baby Bearded Dragon, I got the box then smelled something bad, I didn’t think of her being dead, I opened it, I touched her she didn’t move and I knew she was dead, I Cried For a Whole Hour.

@Gingerblossom6969ily

3 жыл бұрын

Where did you order from?

@GoHerping

3 жыл бұрын

:/

@cyruswood3333

3 жыл бұрын

@@Gingerblossom6969ily A Reptile Store My Friend Told Me to Order From, Thats where she got her reptiles.

@penguinstarlette4028

3 жыл бұрын

My heart hurts just thinking about it, I'm so sorry. Getting excited for a new family member only to be met with tragedy is one of my worst nightmares.

@kingexplosionmurderfuckoff9376

3 жыл бұрын

@@penguinstarlette4028 I know, poor baby...

I'm actually impressed that you covered this topic. Your videos are informative as always, keep up the good work dude.

Thanks so much for covering this its super helpful to know more about shipping. And what happens to reptile during shipping. I love your videos and you do a great job with your reptiles.

I have to say, it made me so extremely happy to hear that it’s even welcomed or allowed to ask for updates about animals sent in. I have wanted to ask since but I didn’t think it was allowed!

You're super brave to admit mistakes, much respect 💜

Did anyone else cuddle their reptile pet after watching this? 😭 I love my ball python so much, I would be heartbroken if he died in any of these ways.

@sarahsmith3771

3 жыл бұрын

Watching this with my crested gecko, he’s trying to climb in my shirt pocket (where he’d sit when he was younger) but he doesn’t fit anymore 😂

@dominiquehebert4903

3 жыл бұрын

@@sarahsmith3771 I think you might need to get shirts with bigger pockets :D

The situation you’re in reminds me so so much of Saskia’s guinea pig rescue, she’s always getting dozens of drop offs at her rescue even though her waitlist is constantly full. People just don’t seem to care or want to be responsible about these animals, it’s insane.

@aballetgal6788

3 жыл бұрын

LAGPR is the best!

I just want to let you know that your constant transparency and honesty is greatly appreciated and at this point, you are about the only pet youtuber that I actually trust.

@GoHerping

3 жыл бұрын

thanks!

This video was informative (as always). Thanks for being willing to make it.

When I got my ball python the FedEx guy just threw the box over the rail on my porch and he landed upside down :/

@jackielambert7980

3 жыл бұрын

😖

@dixon4487

3 жыл бұрын

Is he o,?

@theatregeek2477

3 жыл бұрын

@Del Fuego lol? wtf is wrong with you?

I got my baby anoconda shipped to me, and when it arrived there was no heat pack, the box was 4 times bigger than the snake, the snake was in a pillow case! And newspaper was used as insulation! It took 48 hours for it to get to me. Luckily my snake made it but she was very sluggish and so dehydrated.

@cicadacrimes6366

3 жыл бұрын

That's outrageous. I would have been so mad at the seller, thank God they are okay though! How big are they so far?

@micaelaerin

3 жыл бұрын

@@cicadacrimes6366 well I got her when she was 3 days old and she was already 70cm then, she's now about 4 months old and about 1.5m long.

@micaelaerin

3 жыл бұрын

70cm=27 inches, 1.5m=59 inches

@alyssastickels1324

2 жыл бұрын

@@micaelaerin I’m glad she at least made it okay. Is she a yellow or green?

I love how you tackle the unsavory topics of reptile husbandry as well as the fun ones. I'm proud of you, Alex.. :) I personally have had 3 reptiles shipped to me, 2 in one box and 1 in another, and all three were perfect on arrival. It makes me sad how many people don't care about their pets and follow up on their well being with their new homes.

I love your honesty with everything. Especially this video. Shows your maturity, responsibility and love for the animals.

connecting shipping center temps are often over looked. look at that and see if that explains any of the flukes.

Oh no. Just the imagery of what happens when a deceased animal gets bloated and surpasses it's skin is horrifying.

@beafraid2951

3 жыл бұрын

It's awful, but they're usually in a bag or deli cup. That helps a little. I can't imagine how it must feel to throw away what you thought was going to be a happy animal.

im suprised not more people are checking in on their past pets that they have sent to you :(

Thank you. It’s incredible how you take responsibility for your mistakes; it doesn’t happen anywhere near as often as it should. I’d never thought much about the pet industry before, but Petco has officially lost what little business I gave it.

You’re like two years younger than me but I look up to you so much! You’re doing amazing work and you really inspire me with my pet care journey ^-^ Thanks for everything you do Alex!

Just a thought, maybe the confusing deaths resulted due to the box being in front of a blasting A/C or heat vent?

@3m_my

3 жыл бұрын

Ah-ha. Possibly 🤔

@beafraid2951

3 жыл бұрын

Very possible.

I appreciate you taking responsibility for making a mistake...it's so important to role model this...and you learned and got better. Thanks for helping unwanted pets heal and find new homes!

This is so relevant for me. I had a dart frog die on the way from a great source, and by fluke chance, it had passed when I received it. Thank you for your transparency and raw data on the business aspect as well. I'm learning a lot about standards to follow in this market and where it's lacking. From Ontario Canada 🍁

New requirement for shipping animals: zoom calls. The animal must be well enough to answer the zoom call and say hello. If the animal cannot answer the call with its own claws, tail, etc, the animal cannot be shipped. I’m joking in case you couldn’t tell.

Thanks for making this, I think this is a really important video to exist.

I was lucky enough to be able to watch the little leopard gecko that I sent in, be unboxed. I saw him go up on the site and saw him in at least one other video where you said he'd been sold. I didn't have to contact you for updates. :) Which, btw, communication was excellent! This video has just added one more reason for me to get my first reptile from you.

Great video, really informative and such an important topic.

Hey go herping! I know I've made this comment before but I just love your videos lmao. Like I've said before u have gotten me in the reptile keeping hobbie. I've gotten atleast 6 animals people rehomed to me. Now no I do not have a website but ppm still rehome to me and I've learned alot about shipping details and things I need to keep the animals alive I'm shipping I've gotten about 20 animals all together throughout the year and I've had about 2 deaths, 2 bearded dragons. I was very very said when I got them

Kidnapers used to send "Proof of Life" a picture with today's newspaper. Newspapers are still being printed even a weekly newspaper would work. So ask for them to take a picture with a newspaper printed less than 5 days of the picture. It's not foolproof because people are just awful, but it could help.

@GoHerping

3 жыл бұрын

We do but people can just use another pet, it's improved but won't be perfect

@LuckyStone888

3 жыл бұрын

@@GoHerping People are awful, that is the problem.

In the UK the only animals that you can send through the post are invertebrates and aquatic creatures. Anything else - reptiles, poultry, etc - can only be delivered by a licensed animal courier. And yes, it is expensive. Which prevents people from just grabbing themselves a fun new pet online like you'd pick up a video game. The UK has a lot of problems as a country but I'm very thankful that we got this one thing right at least.

Very important conversation to have, so sorry to hear abt all these hard deaths

One time i ordered a southern painted turtle off of a website with amazing reviews and everything (first time buying a turtle). I did all my research about the animal, size, tank requirements, filtration, basking dock, heating, lamps, food, etc. Not only did it take almost 4 days for the thing to arrive, but the ups guy frisbeed it onto our porch....i opened the box heat pack was good and warm, box wasnt really damaged, but the little guy had this like cardboard insulation type stuff all over/in his eyes. He tried getting it off so i carefully helped him out. He also had a really bad softshell but i read that hatchlings tend to have soft shells but not THAT soft. Immediately after placing him in his new enclosure. He looks Great in my eyes at first(remember first time owning a turtle) but after about a week he started to look horrible. They store had a 7 day death sickness policy but it was too late to call. I tried nursing him back to health and it seemed to work and slowly got better, but eventually died... after about a month i decided to try again but this time get another species. Everything went MUCH smoother this time and now i have a happy healthy strong-shelled turtle. Didn’t change anything to the enclosure, diet, everything. Guess i was unlucky my first time around.

@Kyenta

3 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of the time my sister rescued a pair of young sulcata tortoise from a clearly ignorant friend... one was healthy as a ox the other sadly had a shell deficiency that we didn’t catch until it was to late... had Lucy for almost a month before she showed signs of being sick.

I spent $70 for overnight shipping with the USPS, it was delayed by 4 days. I was so upset

I think I fell in love 😖 you are generally so intelligent on what you do and it really is just adorable 💗 thank you for informing us love!

The packages should have a giant printed photo of a lizard with a speech bubble that says...."I am alive, please handle me gently, do not drop" *If photo is sideways or upsidedown, animal is also, please keep upright* A delivery driver might pay more attention if he could see a big photo of a cute gecko smile on the package...?

Love your content, very blunt and informative

People are stupid. Snake Discovery had a ups/fedex driver read the box, ask something to the about what kind of live animal it was, and start spinning it around between his fingers, right in front of them. Fortunately their animal was fine, but people are so dumb sometimes, I wouldn't be surprised if that kind of stuff happened often within the fedex/ups facilities and trucks.

I am so glad you have such care for animals ♥️

Hey! Love your concern about reptiles. I also noticed your spirited away dolls. One of my favorite directors/writers ever! I went as no-face for the last two Halloweens. Going as dream from the sandman comics this year

Stuff always happens, all you can do is learn from it. You saved way more animals that would have died otherwise.

I had a columbian rainbow boa mailed to me, a young male- doorbell rang, the FUCKING DELIVERY GUY WAS STANDING THERE SPINNING THE BOX IN ALL WAYS. Needless to say I screamed at him "WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING THERE'S AN ANIMAL IN THERE!!!!" He tried to say he didn't know and I pointed at, you know- the stickers on it saying live animal, this side up and such. It was ages ago so I don't think it had to have a specific reptile label then. Or maybe it was supposed and the breeder didn't do that- but it did say animal, handle with care and such. I've never came so close to decking someone's bridge of the nose who hadn't hit me first. I told the breeder what happened, and the poor boy was dead inside of a week. He had seemed fine until he wasn't alive anymore. If I hadn't have seen that I would have thought the breeder did something wrong on his end.

Have you ever done a video of proper packaging? Like a step by step for dummies 🤷‍♀️ love your video's and how honest and the info you give is spot on.

This is an important but painful issue. Thank you for using your platform to center it.

That one lock of hair really do be like ~~

@GoHerping

3 жыл бұрын

yeahhhh i couldn't unsee it after filming

@snakeluvr1395

3 жыл бұрын

I love it 🤪😂

@Theelderscrolls52

3 жыл бұрын

My toddler has a price of hair that does that! 🤣 it bugs me so bad.

Hello I've been watching you for 2 years love ur vids

When I ordered my frog he arrived with; no heating, no paper and no box. This was my first time ordering an animal. I live in the UK so it can get pretty chilly and the delivery driver left the frog in a cricket container on my doorstep below freezing. The frog was like stiff solid when I brought him in and I instantly gave him a warm water soak and In roughly 10 or so minutes he came back and was swimming around. It’s been 2 years and he is still alive and very healthy in a paludarium that I built him and he eats like a beast.

Thank you for talking about this!

just a question, but are you ever gonna get a fish, like a betta or something?

@jmw219

3 жыл бұрын

this man will get a shark

@GoHerping

3 жыл бұрын

nah I doubt it

@charscritters8765

3 жыл бұрын

@@GoHerping fair you have quite a bit of reptiles

@jmw219

3 жыл бұрын

@@daanimalwhisperer he knows he will one day

@thisisbadpoetry

3 жыл бұрын

nah, he has woobeewoo

Completely off topic but I feel like the avocado Image kinda clashes with the general style of your interior

@nat-iy8np

3 жыл бұрын

Lol I kept looking at it XD

great vid dawg. this needs to be the standard!!

As a ups preloader, sometimes box labels get overlooked and boxes get thrown around and slid around a bit. Especially during peak season. Idk if fed ex is the same but stuff happens and many of the workers are seasonal and work very early in the morning.

you should make a very detailed video about how you want the animals packaged and charge a packaging deposit before accepting an animal then return that deposit if the animal is packaged properly on arrival.

I shipped a ball python in canada once, sent it to a friend with a gopro just incase. Let me tell you UPS got a BIG lawsuit and paid me to settle.. They fucking tossed this box with a shit load of labels like a FRISSBEE. and they taped OVER the breathing holes. fucking insane. snake actually lived though.

@jamieisnotokay3298

3 жыл бұрын

Oh my god! I know shipping services can be rough but THROWING A LIVE ANIMAL??

Thank you so much for doing videos like these I'm hoping to follow in your footsteps, not make my own Emerald scales per se But I'd like to rehabilitate and save as many reptiles as I can Your "harder to watch" videos like this really put things into perspective and help me see what I'm looking to get myself into You've been really inspiring to me Thank you so much for all your content

Fun idea! In the boxing instructions you can link a video or just have something showing a video of you or someone else properly packaging an animal, so they can see if theirs looks right.

It's dangerous to ship anything. In the past 2 weeks I've ordered 3 of the same tv and they've all came in broken.

@boneharvester

3 жыл бұрын

ok im sorry this happened to you... but its kinda funny

What substrate would you recommend for a beardie people keep telling me tile is bad for there limbs

@GoHerping

3 жыл бұрын

I don't see a problem with tile so it's really up to who you ask

@charscritters8765

3 жыл бұрын

@@GoHerping thanks I think I’ll stick with tile than

@hebebebe139

3 жыл бұрын

A topsoil and sand mix is best beardies need to dig

@Abby-um5rd

3 жыл бұрын

@@hebebebe139 a lot of times if you give them topsoil they may not touch it and completely ignore it. Tile is perfectly fine for them

@hebebebe139

3 жыл бұрын

@@Abby-um5rd depends how much of an enriching life you want to provide for the beardie

So thankful your service exists. There are too many pet owners and pet sellers out there that just don't give a crap.

Love your videos. Have you all thought about requesting photos of the senders shipping setup prior to shipping?