Jalon is a great listener. I always notice how he intentionally listens to whoever is speaking so that he can thoughtfully add his input. It’s def. inspired me to tap in more when others are speaking and truly listen. A lost art these days for sure. You gentlemen are doing amazing things. Thank you for adding quality to the podcast landscape 🙏🏽.

@realbrownblackhuman1317

15 күн бұрын

EVERYTHING REVOLVES AROUND THE SUN, PHOTOSYNTHESIS IS IN OUR SKIN HENCE EVERYTHING REVOLVING AROUND US 😮 THATS WHY THEY CANT LEAVE US BE

Props to Jalon and Duke for getting to the point of the conversation! Shoutout to Duke for critical thinking and breaking down his thought process, conversation like this helps us break barriers

@NiceAndNeatThePodcast

17 күн бұрын

Thanks for tuning in!!! 🥃🥃🥃

@tonettemoales9519

15 күн бұрын

×❤a3³

@realbrownblackhuman1317

15 күн бұрын

EVERYTHING REVOLVES AROUND THE SUN, PHOTOSYNTHESIS IS IN OUR SKIN HENCE EVERYTHING REVOLVING AROUND US 😮 THATS WHY THEY CANT LEAVE US BE

JALON ATE THIS TF UP !!!!!!

An important part of this conversation is the fact that the passport bros are going to these countries and taking advantage of poor women. They’re looking for women who will do anything to take care of their families, and promising them a life in America if they do whatever he wants. They don’t want partners to lead, they want women to control.

@NiceAndNeatThePodcast

17 күн бұрын

This is often times a reality of these types of interactions and a large part of the perspective that we wanted to bring into there conversation 🥃🥃🥃

@emexokezie7796

16 күн бұрын

Lol... What response else are mindsets like yours supposed to give? You love the sisterhood so much, then marry them! 🤣 🤣

@realbrownblackhuman1317

15 күн бұрын

EVERYTHING REVOLVES AROUND THE SUN, PHOTOSYNTHESIS IS IN OUR SKIN HENCE EVERYTHING REVOLVING AROUND US 😮 THATS WHY THEY CANT LEAVE US BE

@dgo9121

14 күн бұрын

Even though there is truth to that, not everyone is going overseas for that purpose. The main reason men are going overseas is because women overseas for the most part are not entitled, they are respectful and are traditional. Too many women in the U.S. have become insufferable to deal with for many reasons. Im not sayings its all, but the same frame of thought is spreading like a cancer​@NiceAndNeatThePodcast

@Captain_Of_A_Starship

14 күн бұрын

Men are dating poor women in their own country, your statement seems purely emotional from a man hating stance.

Go where you’re celebrated & pay no attention to where you’re not celebrated. ❤

Jalon hit the nail on the head! It’s the belittling that’s the problem… Great discussion.

@treutable

15 күн бұрын

It’s not belittling if it’s based in proven facts and data which with this particular topic is accurate.

@latoyamclean8310

15 күн бұрын

It’s belittling when someone says “black women don’t equate to …”. This is what we hear as black women. Your choice is your choice. We don’t care about that. But don’t say your choice is because we aren’t enough… THAT was the meaning of my comment.

@realbrownblackhuman1317

15 күн бұрын

EVERYTHING REVOLVES AROUND THE SUN, PHOTOSYNTHESIS IS IN OUR SKIN HENCE EVERYTHING REVOLVING AROUND US 😮 THATS WHY THEY CANT LEAVE US BE

@3-dreticle826

13 күн бұрын

@@latoyamclean8310what about in the first part of the video when he spoke about men being belittled? No one cares about that 😂. Just skip that part huh? If you not Chad or Tyrone pookie and Ray Ray. 200k in your bank account and 6ft tall you ain’t getting nothing as a blk man.

@latoyamclean8310

13 күн бұрын

@@3-dreticle826 Let’s be clear.. Belittling on any level is not acceptable. Period. I was speaking from the female perspective which birthed the comment. Women deal with men differently than men deal with men. We see and experience things you all don’t. And vice versa.

“black men are the most desired men in the world” y’all need to start looking up things instead of giving misinformation.

@Mar1293

3 күн бұрын

Sexually. Yes. Everything else no.

@MoveAround694

3 күн бұрын

@@Mar1293 still not the most desired sexually

@Mar1293

3 күн бұрын

@@MoveAround694 no they are. The myth of the bbc is what other women are interested in

@MoveAround694

3 күн бұрын

@@Mar1293 where’d you get that from? Can you show me a link so I can educate myself because when I’m reading is quite the opposite of what you’re saying.

@danhilarious1395

3 күн бұрын

@@Mar1293boom! Ima black man and I definitely agree I’ve smashed a lot of women overseas and I’m 100% sure they’d never let me meet her parents…one chick told me her parents would be ashamed 😅

One thing about Jalon… he gone talk that talk. 🥃

You said the quiet part out loud. 🤦🏽‍♀️ Exotic. That's what you meant. If you look around your friend group and all the men look one way and all the women look another, be honest with YOURSELF and call it what it is. Colorism. Featurism. A form of self hate.

@wellexcusemyfrench

18 күн бұрын

❗️❗️❗️

@jazzyj904

18 күн бұрын

There are groups of Black men who are good friends, but the women they hang around are all light/ non Black. Big groups. No one is darker than a brown paper bag.

@samaria3662

18 күн бұрын

Preach!

@beu2543

18 күн бұрын

Duke being the exception to this is such a great look. We love to see it.

@zhivago3633

17 күн бұрын

Black women are the worst with colorism.

Jalon is extremely articulate, I admire the way he speaks.

“Optically” black men are the most desired men. Unfortunately women with good values want more than optics. That’s where the most “desirable” status fails. Sexual discipline, financial resources, spiritual integrity and self actualization, etc… downhill from there.

@genz214

12 күн бұрын

We’re not the most desirable. The reason why woman say we’re desirable is because of sex and the fetishization of us of Black men in media and the internet. When it comes to marriage and building families and wealth the most desirable is going to be a white man.

@aquarius-woman5364

2 күн бұрын

@@AD-cs6rp They're not. White, Arab and Latin men are

Jalon really bridged the gap. I appreciate the perspective. Most of us are conforming to societal norms not understanding that when we tune into our authenticity we attract the dating experience we desire. We don’t have to physically leave for it…but we do need to stand unapologetically in the truth of who we are vs blending in

@NiceAndNeatThePodcast

17 күн бұрын

Thank you for the input! 🥃🥃🥃

@realbrownblackhuman1317

15 күн бұрын

EVERYTHING REVOLVES AROUND THE SUN, PHOTOSYNTHESIS IS IN OUR SKIN HENCE EVERYTHING REVOLVING AROUND US 😮 THATS WHY THEY CANT LEAVE US BE

Jalon I really appreciate your defense and empathy. I love that for Brittany. WE NEED THIS PODCAST.

@NiceAndNeatThePodcast

17 күн бұрын

🥃🥃🥃

@realbrownblackhuman1317

15 күн бұрын

EVERYTHING REVOLVES AROUND THE SUN, PHOTOSYNTHESIS IS IN OUR SKIN HENCE EVERYTHING REVOLVING AROUND US 😮 THATS WHY THEY CANT LEAVE US BE

@realbrownblackhuman1317

15 күн бұрын

EVERYTHING REVOLVES AROUND THE SUN, PHOTOSYNTHESIS IS IN OUR SKIN HENCE EVERYTHING REVOLVING AROUND US 😮 THATS WHY THEY CANT LEAVE US BE

@nurserobyn896

15 күн бұрын

I concur @kelseyspencer3796

Jalon wanted all the smoke this episode!! 💨

@realbrownblackhuman1317

15 күн бұрын

EVERYTHING REVOLVES AROUND THE SUN, PHOTOSYNTHESIS IS IN OUR SKIN HENCE EVERYTHING REVOLVING AROUND US 😮 THATS WHY THEY CANT LEAVE US BE

White men are the most preferred if you research. White, Asian, Middle Eastern women prefer white men.

@kmarie7051

16 күн бұрын

This is very true. White skin is seen as the most desirable among Asian countries. Here in the west white people tan, but in Asia they avoid tanning at all costs and use whitening products on their skin. They can be pretty racist to darker skins, even darker skinned Asians. I think black men are the most desired among most black women, but not amongst other races. They're seeing beauty through their own eyes as black people, so they are going to find their own race more attractive...but white people see beauty through white peoples eyes and mostly prefer their own race also. Of course there's exceptions who do find other races more attractive, but they are a minority. Most people date people of their own race. Every race probably thinks to themselves they are the most attractive race lol.

@ebonyr.b.1216

14 күн бұрын

I can see that. I see where he’s coming from as well, though. Black men are highly desirable around the world, but more so in a sexual way - def not the same as introducing him as a husband-to-be.

@i_appeal

14 күн бұрын

@@ebonyr.b.1216 Exactly. The most fetishized and oversexualized.

@aquarius-woman5364

12 күн бұрын

​@@ebonyr.b.1216 They're not. Black women worship black men others prefer white, Latin and Arab men.

@kwakuali2893

12 күн бұрын

Preferred and desired are two different things. If you speak to Asian women, they prefer white men mainly because of social status.

Y'all also need to talk about the colorism that is rampant amongst black men. Only preferring mixed black women

@yahebedyah4416

18 күн бұрын

lol if you fine you fine regardless of your skin color for majority of men

@ItsMarionotluigi

18 күн бұрын

if your cute/pretty it doesn't matter. yall wanna force these ugly darkskin women on us and we don't want them sorry. And if you feel offended by this then good that means your standards to high. stop getting mad at us.

@zhivago3633

17 күн бұрын

I have found that black women are far worse than black men about colorism.

@butterflymage5623

17 күн бұрын

Are we talking in real life or the internet. Because when I go outside I see mostly black men with black women.

@emexokezie7796

16 күн бұрын

errr, absolutely not... 'some men'.. Please stop insulting the rest of us who truly Love dark chocolate!!

I appreciate the conversation. However, as an educated Colombian woman living in Colombia, some of the ideas felt derogatory towards me. The statement 'choose your country wisely while looking for a wife' seems to put Colombian women down to support the narrative of “be a passport bro for the right reasons”, which is exactly what Jalon was trying to explain.

@gabriellew.4847

7 күн бұрын

But how is that putting "Columbian women" down specifically???

@Gembaby0115

4 күн бұрын

Because it’s basically saying that Columbia women are easy and sex is more attainable as oppose to religious countries.

@gabriellew.4847

3 күн бұрын

@@Gembaby0115 🤔Interesting. However, shouldn't men choose the country AND the women "wisely" anyway??? Some countries are not welcoming or respectful towards black Americans! (Unless you're a celebrity) And some of the women in poorer countries just looking for a come-up, citizenship and/or are hookers!!!

@TheCoachRC

2 күн бұрын

In other words, choose the right woman you desire regardless of what country they live in.

@aquarius-woman5364

2 күн бұрын

@@Gembaby0115 Isn't it true though?

I definitely agree with Jalon !! The belittling is the issue . Do what you want to do , but don't belittle us Black women , while you're doing it .

@yourlittlesecret7575

16 күн бұрын

I liked the part where he said when WM are passport bros, it’s “I can’t stand *American Women* “ When BM are passport bros, it’s “I can’t stand *Black Women* “

@kingstrong5351

12 күн бұрын

Yet Blk Women are always bashing Blk Men lol

@BjtheLawyer_

4 күн бұрын

Can passport bros recommend foreign women? Because if you recommend a restaurant would that be consider bad? If I said women from the south better than women from the north; is that bad from my perspective?

@BeaSiegal

3 күн бұрын

Tf is wrong with you?

I’ve noticed a lot of Black men in America who want Black women choose women who are First Gen Caribbean/ African rather than Black American women…. I think that’s a necessary conversation.

@MichelleO099

18 күн бұрын

I would have to disagree a lot of us First Gen Caribbean/ African are in the same boat! Especially if we prefer black men in general

@doshpits

18 күн бұрын

do you have stats to prove this or are these your own delusions?

@lordgully5951

18 күн бұрын

This is facts, I choose African/Caribbean/Hispanic black women over Black American Women

@NiceAndNeatThePodcast

17 күн бұрын

We’re splitting hairs with this comment 🥃🥃🥃

@ds98368

17 күн бұрын

@@NiceAndNeatThePodcastso does that mean the conversation needs to continue… because all of yall have first gen Caribbean women if I’m not mistaken?👀

7:57 Wrong most Women that are traditional and Non American usually want to stay close to their family. Most ppl take America for what it is, a place you make money and send back home to help family and so that you can retire.

Thank you Jalon…the women are upset for that very reason…do not tell the world that black women in the US are undesirable because you as one black man didn’t find a partner. Do not make black women into ogres!

@javionriley8739

15 күн бұрын

Exactly

@kingstrong5351

12 күн бұрын

Blk Women have no problem demeaning Blk Men to justify Blk Men dating out lol

Countries with a single parent welfare system do worse than countries with a marriage and family welfare system.

Duke is always dragging the 6ft thing. Plenty of men under 6ft find their person.

@Brezzed

18 күн бұрын

Very shallow and superficial talking point. I don't hear women say a man needs to be 6ft. It's like an imaginary trope attributed to BW and they continue to run with it. But if you ask them to name 5 BW that have told them that, they wouldn't be able to.

@2_Cool8780

17 күн бұрын

The 6' narrative is hella funny. I'm in Houston & I'm not 6'....but absolutely never had any issues getting the baddies or any women. 5'9" in the gym 5 days a week & have a successful career. I think social media has beat this to death.

@Brezzed

17 күн бұрын

@@2_Cool8780 thank you. But again here in TX the people tend value more than looks. I'm glad you added another perspective.

@2_Cool8780

17 күн бұрын

​@@BrezzedVery true. Also it's a different look/vibe in TX than say a L.A./Miami. Never had an issue in those cities when I've visited but I don't live there.

@terrymartin1660

16 күн бұрын

Duke drags his perspective 6ft long, Jalon uses less words and his point is very clear, he’s extremely articulate.

Brodie low key kewning. There’s no way you can date 10 black women and decide that they speak for the millions of black women, and vice versa🤷🏽‍♂️

Love love love this conversation!

Jalon killed it this episode! I share the same sentiments.

I normally don’t comment on KZread videos but thank you Jalon to call out the disrespect. Also, “exotic” is the main reasoning why some of black men want to find someone who looks appealing to them. It’s a self hate mechanism. Colorism and featurism is a huge problem globally but especially in our own race. Brown & Darker skinned women aren’t view as beautiful like our lighter skinned sisters. Natural hair isn’t as love unless it looks a certain type of way and etc… I could go down the list. It’s self hate and we need to talk about it. All black is beautiful no matter the shades, hair texture, facial feature, body and etc.

@ItsMarionotluigi

18 күн бұрын

@samaria3662 We just like feminine women. we like beautiful and pretty women, if that girl is attractive her color DOES NOT MATTER like yall want to make up excuses when have yall heard men say "yeah we dont like dark women" its dumb if she look good she look good, if she doesn't then its because she's not attractive as yall make her out to be and that's the issue. Yall can lie to these women and tell them they QUEENS and they BEAUTIFUL IN YO SKIN but thats not what men say those are what other women say to gas them up then when we be honest yall get mad and call it "colorism"? maybe stop calling everyone queens and beautiful and actually have realistic standards and yall will see change

@samaria3662

18 күн бұрын

@@ItsMarionotluigi There are plenty of feminine women out here go find one, no one is making up excuses when there are men out here who does say they don’t like a certain women cause she dark skinned or whatever. That specific women isn’t attractive to you in your own eyes but she can be attractive to someone else. Just like how the women you like or find attractive wouldn’t want you or find you attractive. Be respectful. Know the difference between a standard and a preference. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There are some black men who hate themselves and the color they’re in just like some black women. Know your self worth. 🤍

@zhivago3633

17 күн бұрын

Black women discriminate on color worse.

@ItsMarionotluigi

17 күн бұрын

@@samaria3662 lmao keep believing that. That’s why they have pageant shows and modeling competitions because Beauty has a standard and it’s not in the eye of the beholder that’s what you use to make yourself feel better. You keep thinking your a 10 to somebody then you’ll join the rest of the unmarried black women (1 in 4 marry ) Goodluck

@samaria3662

17 күн бұрын

@@ItsMarionotluigi you missed the entire point of my message, reading is very fundamental sir. You just prove my point by your ignorance. Have a great day

I don’t think most Black Men even know what it is like to truly be valued by a woman let alone a black woman. I can say this confidently because there is clear evidence of trauma amongst the community where most of the men in the culture don’t even know how to ask for anything from their women let alone believe they deserve to be treated with reverence and respect!

@aquarius-woman5364

12 күн бұрын

Black men are conquered by white men.

@lakeside321

5 күн бұрын

Try raising your children then maybe you will get some respect.

@dopeplanetwatcher4471

5 күн бұрын

@@lakeside321so you purposely ignore his feelings,that’s very typical of women like you 🤨

@lifelove6164

Күн бұрын

When you say BM don't know how to ask what they want from a woman, can you elaborate on what you mean please?

@aquarius-woman5364

Күн бұрын

@@lifelove6164 He means black women. Thet know what to do when it's a white, Latina or Asian woman.

It’s not about the analogies and examples. Simply just don’t put down blank women in your pursuit for what YOU want!

@NiceAndNeatThePodcast

17 күн бұрын

Boom 🥃🥃🥃

This was a great conversation. I liked that all men tried to look at it from a different POV. Thank you, gentlemen. This was another great episode.

@NiceAndNeatThePodcast

17 күн бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!🥃🥃🥃

The truth is if you have to leave the country to look for a woman who has exotic features, its not b/c you are missing out... It's because you are lacking something within. You can hide from the truth but it always finds a way back to the light.

@ItsMarionotluigi

18 күн бұрын

LOL you dont know shit about the truth. Its called having eyes and knowing what you want. If you want to go to OHIO STATE because you like what they have to offer, do you "lack something within" because you didnt want to go to your local community college or did your dumbass have to ability to pick between what you want or decide what's best for you and what you want? this is exactly why we not dealing with yall kind yall too opinionated and be wrong as hell and again just pushing us away.

@NiceAndNeatThePodcast

17 күн бұрын

This is a perspective to pay attention to 🥃🥃🥃

@yourlittlesecret7575

16 күн бұрын

“You take yourself with you. You can’t run from yourself.”

@jaebuudhatv8514

13 күн бұрын

Ur not wrong but One shoe doesn't fit all everyone has their reason for y they leave to find love

@TheInternationalAsshole

7 күн бұрын

The truth is most black women in America are overweight with bad attitudes. The truth is bw are not wifey material and are married at less than %30 but 65% will be single mothers

Just make sure you serve the same God. 1 Kings 113-4

You guys do an amazing job of listening to understand each other instead of just responding!

Braids lost me when he said “exotic “ because that’s what he really meant. He wants what he deems as exotic and not what he sees everyday. Another hurdle black women have to cross.

There’s an element of the passport bros that wants to make the American woman regret how they treated them. It’s almost like it doesn’t mean as much if I can’t throw it in your face.

I love how they have healthy debates. I understood every view point given in this video. But I give Jalon super big ups for taking the time to explain to the fellas, what a lot of women may feel about passport bros and why. This was the first conversation around passport bros that didn’t result in an argument, and was easy to digest and listen to.

I agree with all of these brothers points. To expound on that, I think Black people as a whole need to be kinder to each other online. I’ve only heard black people talk bad about each other’s short comings. Height, Money & Status for men, Beauty & Purity for women. Something’s you can control something’s you can not. Either way we shouldn’t be bashing each other. It creates a wedge.

@NiceAndNeatThePodcast

15 күн бұрын

🥃🥃🥃

This conversation was FIRE 🔥 As a Christian Black American Male, I’ve always preferred black women. ALWAYS. But at the end of the day I gotta be with whomever the Lord has for me. She could be a Black Woman in America or She could be an African, Afro Latina, Mulatto, Mixed etc. Dont even really matter to me. I let the Lord know I do have a preference but we should l never put God in a box. Male or Female.

@BjtheLawyer_

4 күн бұрын

I agree!! 🙏🏾

There is that misguided Nigerian guy that got killed by his white girlfriend after putting down black women for the very same behaviors she exhibited till she killed him.The nuances in that story should explain this topic perfectly .The point is don't stereotype a group of people based on your very limited experience with one and proceed to give them a bad name every where you go . Especially if they are your kind. There is good and bad in every person, race , social class , level Of looks etc.The world is big enough just find your person .

@coreythomas3633

17 күн бұрын

Black women are the best

@bttrfly_wngz09

16 күн бұрын

That part!

@direwolf1977

14 күн бұрын

​@@coreythomas3633😂😂😂😂

@TheInternationalAsshole

7 күн бұрын

​@@coreythomas3633 Really? Is that why 40 million babies was terminated since 1965. Or maybe because 75% weight over 175 lbs

@BjtheLawyer_

4 күн бұрын

Nigerian men are different from Foundational Black American men. In fact, American immigrants more likely to interracially date than FBA!

How are BM the most desired when most non BW prefer their own men? If they don’t say they’re own men, they date WM 2nd! What statistics are showing most non BW are pursing BM for marriage? I’d like to see it

The main issue I have this discussion is that a lot of assumptions about the passport bro phenomenon....they should have invited an actual pass bro..

Jalon did his thing as always....he brings such a level headed perspective to the conversations

This conversation was much needed

Jalon really understood this topic and I appreciated him explaining to Duke that the issue is belittling American women. Bc no one cares who you as an individual date. But if you have to go across the world to find a mate, the problem is not us, it’s probably YOU just not having any “luck” here. So just say that! Or, better yet, don’t say anything & just go!

@NiceAndNeatThePodcast

12 күн бұрын

🥃🥃🥃

I wish some of this was fact checked… it would bring a lot more context and understanding.

He's almost right, except - no passport bro is trying to bring these women back to America - that's a no go.

@NiceAndNeatThePodcast

12 күн бұрын

😂😂😂

Dude in the Stripe shirt is speaking facts, keeping it real, & not demonizing anyone even though he doesn’t personally agree with them. He can LOGICALLY see why people do what they do. Salute to him.

Black men, we can’t afford to be all over the world…. The laws ain’t for us, the men in these areas ain’t feeling us, we ain’t safe running it like this….✊🏾

Jalon was in his BAG

I watched this from start to finish. This is conversation was beautiful ❤️ it was my first time tuning in but it won't be the last

@NiceAndNeatThePodcast

12 күн бұрын

Welcome to the family! 🥃🥃🥃

first time watching. great work ✅🔥

I am so glad I found this podcast.

Been happily married to my Black American princess/wife from AL...for 15 years. I, too, have given brothers a hard time who don't date Black women. But i"m trying to do better. This was interesting to me. I've heard alot about this Passport Bro movement and talked with some out of curiosity. It seems like easy prostitution for the cheap. I didn't get the "I found my wife" theme. lol.

They are not the most desirable alot of them have terrible character. PERIOD!

@IceburgPimp

18 күн бұрын

Why r we more married then yall

@MichelleO099

18 күн бұрын

@@IceburgPimp because there’s more women than men. And the men choose who they want to marry. But it doesn’t change the fact that a lot of yalls character is indecent and insufferable. So yes Yall marry but majority don’t last.

@AngelaElikya

18 күн бұрын

Because y'all the one marrying the woman you choose ! But y'all also have the most divorced rate than your counter parts so yeah ​@@IceburgPimp

@maryimmaculate1059

18 күн бұрын

​@@IceburgPimp Black men are the most married out of their race and the most divorced too, with the highest rates of baby daddies. Black women have low rates of marriage because we are race loyal and are the opposite of the standards of beauty. Also, black men are not viewed as success objects but as sexual objects. White men are the most desired men for their resources.

@NiceAndNeatThePodcast

17 күн бұрын

The masculinity of black men is what creates the desire. There are hundreds of studies out there feel free to research and let’s discuss

I heard you guys on the radio today 6/23/24 I was so inspired that I subscribed to your podcast I’m great full for you guys don’t stop we need this for this generation and generations to come.

@NiceAndNeatThePodcast

15 күн бұрын

Welcome to the family!!! 🥃🥃🥃

Jalon you seem like a rare man in the best way. You did did your thing in this convo. Thank to the 3 of you for having some intelligent convos. Y’all are all beautiful, intelligent, amazing black men. Thank you for the love and positivity you spread. ❤

Jalon doesn't understand by guys simply going overseas to entertain women...that tells you everything you need to know...they don't have to put down the women in the states...actions speak louder than words especially if that action is to inconvenience yourself to take a trip elsewhere. We live in a globalized dating market

Jalon been cookin lately 👨🏾‍🍳

Listening comprehension! Whew, it's needed. Lol

Jalon never miss❤❤

Omar’s look 🔥 Great episode fellas!!

@NiceAndNeatThePodcast

17 күн бұрын

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damn Jalon…you must have eaten your Wheaties today…keep up the good job

@NiceAndNeatThePodcast

17 күн бұрын

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Great Pod bros. 👍🏿

Id advise men to go where they are treated best because as men we have to pay a price regardless. If as a man I have to fill the role of man I should get what I want. I will never knock another man for that. The women complaining are sorta weird because often the same women are saying they dont want these men regardless. Its your life live it on your terms Duke is spot on but Jalon is gonna get points because its sounds better to women. Women are demeaning first, and men are reacting

I date average height men with average jobs… but because of this nonsense they think women like us aren’t out here. It’s annoying. There’s someone for everyone, u just have to believe in that fact.

@quilabill

10 күн бұрын

Me too - vetting is important because some men have internet philosophy

I listened on Spotify but had to come to KZread to share my thoughts haha! Jalon is SPOT ON with everything he said!!! I think another aspect missing from this conversation is knowing the difference between black men being "most desirable" vs being "the most fetishized." Y'all lightly touched on it when mentioning how black men physically represent masculinity. There's typically many women lusting after that image, but, as another commenter mentioned, white men are actually the most desirable economically and due to global impact. (They're also the larger demographic right now.)

@NiceAndNeatThePodcast

14 күн бұрын

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Agree with Jalon, nailed it 😅

This was my first time watching vs listening to the podcast. The videos are way better. This was an interesting episode discussed with open minds.

I really enjoyed this conversation.

@NiceAndNeatThePodcast

11 сағат бұрын

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When it comes to the desirable debate, Blk men come in second. Yt men are considered to be the most desirable race of man. Let's put feelings to the side. Blk men being considered second in front of other nations of men is crazy when you consider our image on the world stage & us being blocked out of the job market.

@handlebars3085

17 күн бұрын

Most black men are desired from a sexual standpoint. White men are desired for the providing aspect. Long term no matter what race who you are how well you take care of yourself sexual currency comes to a stop.

@genz214

12 күн бұрын

Let me add on to this when it comes to black men being the desirable its what we can do bed with a woman and make her happy outside of that what else do we do? When it comes to building families and futures white man will be desirable.

@MoveAround694

5 күн бұрын

Y’all not second where are y’all getting this information?

@zerotolerance2026

2 күн бұрын

@@MoveAround694 Right! Nothing in reality supports this nonsense🤣

@aquarius-woman5364

2 күн бұрын

@@roberthicks5550 Black men are the most desired by black women only

Lmao I’m 5’5 make decent money. Just come to the realization that I’m not everyone’s cup of tea. Does it hurt sometimes yeah but that persons lost not mine.

@MichelleO099

18 күн бұрын

I don’t think height is really your problem. My dad is a short guy 5’5 but managed to get a woman that is 5’9 my mom. Work on you character, morals and show that you are a quality guy capable of loving a woman and the right girl will see that. You don’t have to be everyone’s type, it just seems like you don’t want ONE woman loving you. You want options!!

@brittanyb5942

13 күн бұрын

My brother is 5’6 and I have a male cousin who is 5’5. They get women left and right so I agree, height has nothing to do with it.

I would challenge BM to travel to at least 10 countries all 1st world countries stay for at least two weeks and mingle amongst the locals than formulate your opinion on the differences. A lot of time these men make assumptions about the experiences of dating abroad without ever actually doing it and you can tell because most of what they are saying is false

The women in these countries are looking for a way out of their situation. Because they have less, they are willing to do whatever to get them papers. They emigrate without knowing the language, having working papers, etc. So the man ends up being solely financially responsible for this woman and at times her family. And when she does get papers, she may dip. How is that different from meeting a woman and her expecting you to support the family in the US?? It's super OK to have a foreign woman in your home that can't work, but not an American woman??

Jalon you get it and you speak for me And interpretation is spot on

“Exotic” 🥴😵‍💫

@Brezzed

18 күн бұрын

Omar really told on himself and Duke tried to save him. Too late. 😂

@797sexii

14 күн бұрын

Time stamp?

Great Episode.... To get straight to the point.... As Men, List out the attributes/traits that you can change (aka controllable factors). Examples of these are: fitness level, income, stoic-personality, hygiene, fashion. Be honest with self-assessment, and wherever you fall short, Fix it for your own peace of mind. Also for the un-controllable factors, where you fall short, don't stress it. Just simply find someone that celebrates you (foreign or not), but in that process don't downplay the women that choose not to be with you.... And black women, as long as the man (that went the foreign route) doesn't downplay you, you have no right to feel any type of hurt. There are good black women out there, that have standards, and rightfully so. However there are some black women in the world that are disrespectful and choose to emasculate men. There is Good and Bad on both sides (concerning black men and black women).

Ultimately, many of the people who go overseas to bring a person here are usually left once the people are able to support themselves. That tells the real story - people who are in need go along with whatever to survive. Once they can support themselves, that’s when you see their real beliefs and what they have no interest in being bothered with…..

I thought this would be another one of those Red Pill 💊 podcast that bashed women and was pleasantly surprised to see a more mature, even keeled common sense conversation amongst black men. I respect the perspectives.

@NiceAndNeatThePodcast

14 күн бұрын

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@ShyAnn24

13 күн бұрын

@@NiceAndNeatThePodcast Love ❤️ to see it!

34:31 Jalon 😂😂😂

Man, shout out Duke. That man is advancing every day. Its coo to see him grow more intelligent. I've been watching Nice and Neat Podcast before I joined his coaching group. I can easily see his growth. The sky is not the limit for him. Same goes for Omar and Jadon. Keep killin it 🙏🏾

@NiceAndNeatThePodcast

16 күн бұрын

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A lot of brothas can’t even by 100% honest with their woman without the fear of ridicule and backlash which speaks to the problem. I wish our community was more honest and stopped playing this game of pretending like ghetto ratchet behavior is normal. Degeneracy is normal. Poverty and negativity is normal. It’s not normal!

Thank you Jalon for correcting the false narrative that short guys or broke guys cant find love because we see it everyday. The irony is those "undesirable" men are being shallow going for the "baddies" while being shocked or offended at the women's shallowness. What did you expect? If you want a good woman, stop being shallow just like you'd tell the women.

Jalon really is a skilled conversationalist. Duke really is growing as a podcaster. The Racism over classism is a interested take should be explored/discussed more bc I don’t see them as separate as Black person

Thank you Jalon. They are glorifying going to other countries and finding women based on the sex & submission. It gives modern day, mail order bride.

@Jetlife904

10 күн бұрын

Isn’t America based off sex and money these days?

Most of Passport bros aren’t cute and broke. So alot of it is individual issues they don’t want to admit to themselves yet. Instead they would rather blame black women and just not go to therapy or improve themselves. Among these Passport Bros there is no super fine Passport bro. Find one..I’ll wait…..

There is a elephant in the room that blk men wont discuss and thats the relationship with their mother

@brittanyb5942

13 күн бұрын

Exactly! Most black men hate their mothers, no matter how good they were to them 😔

@jaebuudhatv8514

13 күн бұрын

​@@brittanyb5942 whaat? we love our mothers 😂 why would we hate our mothers?

@SteamFocus

12 күн бұрын

I will say this - I love my mother - love my mother with all my heart - but I would never marry a woman like my mother. Now - I would marry a woman like my grandmother - LoL. But it's the old narrative that somehow you have issues with your mother that is why you are choosing women from other countries - hahahaha - that's the cap.

@quincycuthbert5408

12 күн бұрын

@@SteamFocus I am not so sure about that. I would love to know what qualities your mother displayed that you dont want in a wife? Some of the discussions in these podcast and comments lead me to that assumption. Men have a fantasy about grandma but never speak in that same light about their mothers. I think it truly needs to be discussed for women's benefit.

@SteamFocus

11 күн бұрын

​@quincycuthbert5408 The simplest way is that my grandmother was more a traditional woman, and my mother is more modern.

Why is the conversation hard to have if you don’t have a black woman?

@coreythomas3633

17 күн бұрын

Exactly

@i_appeal

14 күн бұрын

Credibility

I'm only a few minutes in and I had to pause and tell y'all why I mess with y'all go hard. So I am an African living in my home country of Tanzania but I was blessed enough to attend high school and college in the States. One of the first things I noticed when I first moved to the US was how black men treat women with so much more respect. I have only ever been interested in black men (African, Caribbeans, Americans, British etc.) but after experiencing dating Africans and Black Americans, I know in my heart that my future husband is most likely not an African man and is probably a Black American. Now I am working hard to move back to the US so that I can a) live the life I want for myself and b) be surrounded by the type of men that I believe I will end up with one day. I appreciate Omar refraining from using the term "exotic" because that was how I was perceived in the US and it got to the point that people would say things like " I want to know what international pu**y takes like". They really made me feel like I was a Phoenix or some mythical creature. I typed all these paragraphs just to reassure that the topics that you guys be talking about really hit home for so many of us and the intentionality of your word choice continues to make this a safe space. Love y'all

@NiceAndNeatThePodcast

17 күн бұрын

Thank you 🥃🥃🥃

Jalon ain’t going for it this episode 😂 im over here hype he standing on business and im here for it!

17:54 thank you

“A woman will never be vulnerable enough to tell you the deficiencies in her.” Hmm, who hurt Duke? 😂 Because there are plenty of women in healthy happy relationships who openly discuss their difficulties, their weaknesses, their struggles, etc. Duke and these sexist tropes have to go.

They are literally talking about going to counties where they have to pay the women that are “treating them like kings” to treat them that way. An American woman will do the same when you’re willing to pay a fee.

Tbh, you lot sound a tad bit ignorant, most people have more successful lives in their countries. They actually lose more moving to the Americas.

@ReelOnesTV

17 күн бұрын

True, many degrees are deemed worthless and non transferable in the states

@genz214

12 күн бұрын

@@ReelOnesTV it depends on what degree. Here in Dallas, Texas there’s a lot of tech companies hiring Indians from overseas that have degrees in Computer Science or Information Technology. They get paid a lot by these companies and they driving around in Teslas and living in a 5bed3bath house.

The guy with the Beard has a lot of wisdom, the guy in the black and white. He's talking alot but not saying much. He sounds selfish.. Not looking looking to be a partner but to be served.

Can I come on and discuss this with you all?? I’d really like to engage and ask some questions

Loved this and the different perspectives. However, Personally! I think Jalon just gets it! & duke trying to put us all in one pot. These things might happen to white woman but they still have America/ Americans that idolize them. I believe us black women are feeling it a lil differently. And they are mainly putting US down to justify their reasoning, instead of just doing what they want. Now don’t get me wrong I’m a big fan of Duke. But Jalon definitely just gets it. And I appreciate when I hear/see black men actually standing up for us. Good episode

@NiceAndNeatThePodcast

14 күн бұрын

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A Colombian here: As a follower of the show for several months, sometimes agreeing and sometimes not with the content or ideas. I always tried to see it as another perspective and learn. Because I love to learn, like most Colombians. Now in this episode although at first I wanted to let it go, yes it is ignorance and unfortunately it is an idea that has spread. In this one you guys were very irresponsible with your comments, being aware of the level of transmission and reach you have, to make comments like 27:41 "when you are going to Colombia or Brazil... you are not looking for a wife" 😷Although I can understand the background of the discussion, the way it was said was inappropriate. Mad respect when talking about women from other cultures and be more careful with what you say because of the way it can be misinterpreted.

@NiceAndNeatThePodcast

12 күн бұрын

That was irresponsible of us and used incorrectly. Apologies 🥃🥃🥃

@NiceAndNeatThePodcast

12 күн бұрын

Thank you for holding us accountable on this topic

Subbed because I see the value in this channel based on the tone of this conversation. But why does it always seem like it’s women’s dating problems are men’s issues, and men’s dating problems are…..men’s issues. Yes maybe there are some men who couldn’t succeed but you know, maybe the way a large amount of women act here isn’t desirable nor compatible at all too and that’s not the men’s fault.

@NiceAndNeatThePodcast

12 күн бұрын

Welcome to the family! 🥃🥃🥃

Jalon, Jalon, Jalon, THANK YOU......

Been living in Rio for 6 years next month. I know a few passport bros and also some expats like myself. Passport bros are a diverse lot. Definitely not just one thing. Most of the brothers I know who identify as PBs are financially straight. They can afford a woman in the US, but choose to deal outside the US. Of course there are brothers doing the pay for play thing, it comes with the territory. My first couple experiences here in Rio were not even discussed as pay for play. It was kind of hey we did this, and I need help. I was real green to it to the point I never gave the 1st chock anything. We hung out after that and she even popped up and stayed the night, but I declined her because the sex was trash the first time. I still didn't get what she was doing. I'm fresh out the states, and I don't pay for sex. Then 3 years later when I came back to live, I hung out with a friend (to this day actually) and in the morning she wanted cash. I broke her off but we had other stuff going on business wise too. We're still friends now. Bit that opened my eyes to what the game was even though it wasn't discussed between us. I wasn't looking for that situation. Most brothers who end up living here eventually grow out of that. It gets old. I was propositioned on the beach 2 days ago. Had no issue brushing her off. We want real relationships and not transactional ones. Others come and just play. I know plenty of the women they play with. My phone full. Just depends on what you on. Adults do what they do.