The Most Dangerous Idea in History | Nihilism

There are few philosophies as famous and infamous as nihilism - the belief that nothing really matters. But we rarely stop to ask what nihilism actually is, or give a detailed analysis of its properties. And this is a shame because it prevents us having clear and precise conversations about what is perhaps one of the most important philosophical issues of the past 200 years. So today we are going to try to specify the idea of nihilism. It may not be a perfect system, but I am hoping it will bring some clarity to this often nebulous philosophy.
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00:00 Nihilism
01:42 The Total Nihilist
07:13 The Moral Nihilist
11:40 The Conventional Nihilist
15:51 The Dimensions of Nhilism

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  • @cheyennealvis8284

    @cheyennealvis8284

    Ай бұрын

    Would love to see your view on the diamond sutra

  • @deathsinger1192

    @deathsinger1192

    4 күн бұрын

    I'd like to add one more, one I discovered about four years ago, when I was 13. I'd like to call it absolute Nihilism and the first thing is that, in it's true form, absolute nihilism isn't even theoretically describable. Descartes said you know for sure that you yourself exist and may it be just in the moment you realize that you think, but I don't think so, I think that whatever would be manipulating me has complete control over logical thinking, therefore "I" don't have to be, yet "something'" has to. The Problem is that "something" doesn't describe the absurdity of how little about it I actually know, because I know nothing and I cannot say that I cannot describe "it" because that designates "it" therefore, reminding of the famous saying "the boundaries of my language are the boundaries of my world" I cannot describe absolute nihilism, because everything, even "I think, therefore I am" is built on this fundamental trust into what I cannot linguistically distance myself from being trustworthy. Absolute Nihilism rejects any trust or should I say "belief", therefore I not only have to reject belief in the physical reality, which the rejection of is some interstage in between total and absolute nihilism, but also belief in what I cannot even describe (none of this comes close because it is not possible to get any close than infinitely far from describing absolute nihilism). From this revelation comes my opinion, that conscious live, existence, being is not only impossible without belief in the unprovable, but also in the undescribable. Luckily I have always been Christian and therefore had my belief in god to prevent me from becoming a practicing absolute nihilist. From all this I also derive that rationality, which I was obsessed with and which led to me to this, is a dead end without belief and therefore useless without belief and the meaning of life, which is to not be a practicing absolute nihilist and therefore to believe in something, anything at all and in extension, to act consciously on the basis of this belief. I choose to trust and believe in god.

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    @shripperquats5872Ай бұрын

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    @unsolicitedadvice9198

    Ай бұрын

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    @manubishe

    Ай бұрын

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    @unsolicitedadvice9198

    Ай бұрын

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    @shahmeerhydrАй бұрын

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    @unsolicitedadvice9198

    Ай бұрын

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    @JamieGreen-it2of

    Ай бұрын

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    @samueloak1600

    Ай бұрын

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    @alineharam

    Ай бұрын

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    @constantinetabs713

    Ай бұрын

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  • @josephscott6286
    @josephscott6286Ай бұрын

    I am a nihilist, but I am motivated by the possibility of being mistaken.

  • @tonyp.bahama9368

    @tonyp.bahama9368

    Ай бұрын

    I like this

  • @Alessandro-qp2cn

    @Alessandro-qp2cn

    9 күн бұрын

    I am a nihilist but i don't see the "nothing matters" in a negative way but rather in a nothing matters do what you really want to do because at the end even if you don't take anything with at least you weren't unhappy living obediently by the meaningless rules of the world.

  • @_giant_5485

    @_giant_5485

    6 күн бұрын

    Then you are not nihilist. Nihilist would reject the happiness itself​@@Alessandro-qp2cn

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    @acidicsalАй бұрын

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  • @DesiPhilosopher748
    @DesiPhilosopher748Ай бұрын

    Beautifully articulated!

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    @unsolicitedadvice9198

    Ай бұрын

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    @bro5846Ай бұрын

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    @OyeAlguienАй бұрын

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    @johanLiebert000Ай бұрын

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    @unsolicitedadvice9198

    Ай бұрын

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    @samueloak1600

    Ай бұрын

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  • @kharonhu
    @kharonhuАй бұрын

    I don't think belief necessarily equates action. If one is a theoretical Nihilist, they can acknowledge the meaninglessness of everythig, but still understand their postions as puppets in the grand stage of life. Upon which they are given a choice: to fall over and refuse to act, and thereby becoming a practical nihilist. Or to continue acting, and accept that the greater sphere of reality has no relevance in the day to day life.

  • @unsolicitedadvice9198

    @unsolicitedadvice9198

    Ай бұрын

    Oh definitely! I think the distinction is helpful

  • @RoyCyberPunk

    @RoyCyberPunk

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@unsolicitedadvice9198 No offense but that just sounds to exist just for the sake of existing as involuntarily as breathing.

  • @BardovBacchus

    @BardovBacchus

    Ай бұрын

    We can believe that nothing matters in a absolute external sense, but that won't stop the police from arresting you if you do crimes. No one is a brain in a jar, existing as a solitary being, devoid of relative context

  • @RoyCyberPunk

    @RoyCyberPunk

    Ай бұрын

    @@BardovBacchus Not anymore if you live in New York City or California so again under your all subjective worldview is entirely valid to commit murder, mass murder. rape and genocide and are as valid as lifesaving surgeon.

  • @williamchristy9463

    @williamchristy9463

    Ай бұрын

    ​@BardovBacchus To take it a step further, no one is a brain. To believe that nothing matters is to put ones mind above the entire rest of their organism, which screams against that belief with every subconcious act, and many consequently conscious ones.

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    @annacsillatakacs5048Ай бұрын

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    @unsolicitedadvice9198

    Ай бұрын

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    @mateuszdan135Ай бұрын

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    @nataliya2641Ай бұрын

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    @MYDEEPTHOUGHTS2023Ай бұрын

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    @tramahticgaming719Ай бұрын

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  • @Electric-Panorama
    @Electric-PanoramaАй бұрын

    I’ve came up with the term “involuntary nihilist” to describe myself bc I HATE that nothing actually matters in the long run but I try my hardest to find meaning and value in my life/the world. Despite my brain trying its hardest to constantly remind me that nothing matters.

  • @Frettingfret
    @FrettingfretАй бұрын

    I’ve been watching you lately, thank you for sharing your thoughts I love your interpretation. I follow many philosophy accounts and I feel you have shot to the top of my favorites, even more so than Academy of Ideas & they’re the ones who introduced me to philosophy. Keep it up thank you so much

  • @SolB808
    @SolB808Ай бұрын

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  • @aidaakhavansabet5712
    @aidaakhavansabet5712Ай бұрын

    I’ve always struggled to understand Nihilism and as a result how to feel about this philosophy of existentialism. This video provides perspective and clarification into this realm of philosophy. Thanks 🤩

  • @timothy209
    @timothy209Ай бұрын

    Great video! Existentialism next? My favorite is Sören Kierkegaard

  • @Elijah-qx3qn
    @Elijah-qx3qnАй бұрын

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    @joshzeno8666Ай бұрын

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    @geniusfujiappleАй бұрын

    I love this guy’s quarter zip sweaters. It’s his work attire and he slays everyday.

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    @kingdm8315Ай бұрын

    keep up the good stuff man!

  • @unsolicitedadvice9198

    @unsolicitedadvice9198

    Ай бұрын

    Ah thank you!

  • @not-a-cupid-stunt
    @not-a-cupid-stuntАй бұрын

    So much information in such a short space of time! My brain needs to take a rest...to then watch it all over again to take in what it missed the first time around 😙

  • @Lilitamayol
    @LilitamayolАй бұрын

    Nice video. I like your take on this

  • @unsolicitedadvice9198

    @unsolicitedadvice9198

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @fayazahmad4441
    @fayazahmad4441Ай бұрын

    Hi joe, great video. But would love one on eastern philosophy

  • @cheeseburgerinparadise7124
    @cheeseburgerinparadise712421 күн бұрын

    When I have clients who have existential issues, one of the exercises I have them do is listen to you as well as academy of ideas. Philosophy is one of the best medicines for depression and anxiety and you my friend are not a placebo. You should know at the very least that I had to formally very suicidal clients who became better because of your work and how you share your ideas. You inspired hope with both.

  • @DJWESG1
    @DJWESG1Ай бұрын

    Some of these descriptions fit society better than individuals.

  • @eerrriiillllll
    @eerrriiillllllАй бұрын

    this really help me, thank!

  • @unsolicitedadvice9198

    @unsolicitedadvice9198

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you! I hope it provides at least the sketch of a clear framework

  • @oldtools6089
    @oldtools60895 күн бұрын

    I have no idea what you mean at all, but I like your style. Good kicks senpai

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    @dray6331Ай бұрын

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  • @TwoDudesPhilosophy
    @TwoDudesPhilosophyАй бұрын

    To me existentialism is like a medicine for nihilism. Man is constantly trying to avoid the experience of meaninglessness. Like Levinas' describes it with the state of "il y a". He states that we experience nihilism in boredom, we experience absurd thoughts like the fact that we have a random amount of fingers. All we do after that is construct a life to avoid this experience.

  • @agnibeshbasu3089

    @agnibeshbasu3089

    Ай бұрын

    Nihilism has no medicine. Existentialism is a cope.

  • @jaimlawson

    @jaimlawson

    Ай бұрын

    @@agnibeshbasu3089religion

  • @ondrejdalik6221

    @ondrejdalik6221

    Ай бұрын

    I believe that medicine to nihilism is psychosynthesis. I think nihilists do not have connection to their Self. Its hard to imagine a nihilist that feels the self/soul as that is theological in it's nature

  • @samueloak1600

    @samueloak1600

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@agnibeshbasu3089same thing

  • @DJWESG1

    @DJWESG1

    Ай бұрын

    I'm quite good with meaninglessness. I don't mind not knowing the meaning or getting the meaning incorrect. Some ppl go a bit over the top with it all.

  • @jaimlawson
    @jaimlawsonАй бұрын

    Interesting timing, as I am reading “Being and Nothingness” atm.

  • @whitenoiseratio
    @whitenoiseratioАй бұрын

    I worked you out, You have a highly moral ideology, you almost selflessly educating people and to a very high standard, its a very honourable thing to do indeed. you really speak to the listener it's something unique.I wouldn't rate you as much of a nihilist I guess... ;) Enlighten us you do.

  • @victornice858
    @victornice858Ай бұрын

    I like how your sets are different In each episode..here ..we are talking about Nihilism and so subtly, a picture of Barbara S. Peaking out at us from the upper left..Funny girl.. 1964..coincidentally there is a current Hollywood production, by the same name..now. -seriously, your vids keep people calm and sane..

  • @sidonwire4091
    @sidonwire4091Ай бұрын

    The matrix is extremely helpful! While watching, I was thinking about how I could categorize your concepts into a table but I was too focused on what you were saying to properly complete the thought. The “categorization junkie” in me is feeling like a child on Christmas with this :)

  • @philyeary8809

    @philyeary8809

    4 күн бұрын

    Yes, also see: Children of Men Logans Run Zardoz The Purge The Star Chamber

  • @nubiancaynes2128
    @nubiancaynes2128Ай бұрын

    I feel ashamed to have passed you off because of how young you looked...you've earned one more subscriber. Keep doing what you're doing

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    @kerripendragon4888

    Ай бұрын

    How he looks? You feeling attracted? LoL...

  • @kaiprimeau9288
    @kaiprimeau9288Ай бұрын

    Hey man. I appreciate your videos. They are very interesting, and easier to take in than a lengthy philosophical book. I apologize that I am not subscribing at the moment(I have a fear of online interaction, so I don't really have an online presence(no Facebook, etc.), I don't normally even comment on anything(once in a blue moon)). I might subscribe at some point though. And keep making your videos. And have a wonderful day😁.

  • @redblueblur6321
    @redblueblur6321Ай бұрын

    Bro is making videos faster than even i catch up to the old ones

  • @unsolicitedadvice9198

    @unsolicitedadvice9198

    Ай бұрын

    Haha! I find writing very addictive!

  • @333notu9
    @333notu9Ай бұрын

    you have a way with words my friend

  • @unsolicitedadvice9198

    @unsolicitedadvice9198

    Ай бұрын

    Ah thank you! That is very kind!

  • @dubsthelegacy
    @dubsthelegacyАй бұрын

    Best philosophy channel - id love to see how pop culture/cults/modern religeons have been influenced by the older philosophers. I.E. LaVey, Crowley, Freemasonry, etc

  • @philyeary8809

    @philyeary8809

    4 күн бұрын

    This. A deep.dive into the secret history of America would be enlightening.

  • @dubsthelegacy

    @dubsthelegacy

    4 күн бұрын

    @@philyeary8809 reading my comment i realize it sounds a bit conspiracy theorist-y.. not what i mean but rather how modern religion and cults, or our lifestyle in general has been affected by the older philosophy’s

  • @armansingh5300
    @armansingh5300Ай бұрын

    Bro please make a elaborative video on how to speak articulated/eloquently.

  • @Bf26fge
    @Bf26fgeАй бұрын

    Value is in the eye of the beholder. Belief-habits reveal one's values, even if one lacks self awareness.

  • @KBos72
    @KBos72Ай бұрын

    Interesting, as always. I often refer to myself as a nihilist, but perhaps I need another word for it since I believe in the concept of not doing harm to others, not causing them pain, or at least harm reduction when possible. Making others suffer should be avoided. Aside from that, I get hung up on the concept of meaning because I don't think there is any meaning to the universe, nor any higher purpose, nor think that we need any kind of societal practicality aside from not doing harm. We just exist, and since we exist, we might as well make the best of it.

  • @williamchristy9463

    @williamchristy9463

    Ай бұрын

    Every living thing is designed to propogate by natural selection. We have a higher purpose, at least insofar as a hammer does.

  • Ай бұрын

    Not doing harm is directly against having a society to start. Weirdly.

  • @Starfish11169
    @Starfish11169Ай бұрын

    Hi! nice video :)

  • @unsolicitedadvice9198

    @unsolicitedadvice9198

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @klosnj11
    @klosnj11Ай бұрын

    Fascinating. I have long dreaded nihilism, but this did a giod job leading me through the weeds. How do you think a practical nihilist would do when taking one of the Moral Foundations Test (the work of Johnathan Haidt and co)?

  • @Anand2024
    @Anand2024Ай бұрын

    I would like to hear the unsolicited advice of people on this topic

  • @whiteboywednesday1265
    @whiteboywednesday1265Ай бұрын

    Well, who would've guessed this philosophy was way deeper than the edgy way of life I believed it to be in middle school, good work!

  • @whooping_tiger689
    @whooping_tiger689Ай бұрын

    Great video At 8:24 tho all I thought was “BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM” iykyk

  • @edathompson2
    @edathompson224 күн бұрын

    My ultimate reason for action or preference is choice. Because I choose to.

  • @vibetech89
    @vibetech89Ай бұрын

    My beautiful philosopher is back with Nihilism.

  • @diegoangulo370
    @diegoangulo370Ай бұрын

    Philosophy is super abstract. I’m scratching my head a most of these concepts

  • @DJWESG1

    @DJWESG1

    Ай бұрын

    You may have lice.

  • @ElonMuskrat-my8jy

    @ElonMuskrat-my8jy

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@DJWESG1You may have autism.

  • @MichaelPiz

    @MichaelPiz

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@DJWESG1Philosophical lice. Like Plato.😁

  • @user-hj3wt7uv8g
    @user-hj3wt7uv8g12 күн бұрын

    Sartre please you r brilliant

  • @TheEchostarcraft
    @TheEchostarcraftАй бұрын

    As a depression patient for over 15 years now, I can safely say that you're more correct than you think about total practical nihilism. The core of the state of being is deeply tied to value statements, and the untreated progression could be described somewhat accurately as a self perpetuating cycle continuously eroding them in a core way. Beginning with the mere erosion of confidence in value statements and terminating in their conceptual discreditation. The symptoms and behaviors are in a very real way an outward expression of that internal belief.

  • @DJWESG1

    @DJWESG1

    Ай бұрын

    Sometimes they just reinforce the false beleifs fostered by the depression. I've been clinically depressed for all my life, and there were times when I was a true nihilist, in its purest form, I truly hated everyone, the world and all existence. Not just a rejection of the world, but the conclusion 'it must be got rid of'. Luckily my depression is inward, only destroying myself. Though, I wouldn't go as far to say I was entirely incorrect.

  • @TheEchostarcraft

    @TheEchostarcraft

    Ай бұрын

    @@DJWESG1 Jung used to say depression is like a lady in black. Should she choose to knock on your door, it's best to invite her in fix some coffee and see what she's got to say. Takes guts to hang in there m8. Just try not to forget that self hatred is like splatterpaint. Yours isn't the shirt that gets dirty. And if it is, I'd respond that painting is more fun with friends. You're doing great.

  • @shadeaquaticbreeder2914
    @shadeaquaticbreeder2914Ай бұрын

    6:31 THAT sounds like crippling depression to me lol. Greatly valuing things but not having the motivation to do anything with or about it.

  • @breh188
    @breh188Ай бұрын

    Where'd you get the jacket, it looks nice on you

  • @troutfish8590
    @troutfish8590Ай бұрын

    As someone who has struggled a lot with manic depression, total practical nihilism is a very easy thing to fall into. Your mind naturally pushes yourself into that way of thinking and non-acting. You begin to genuinely feel that there is no value in taking any action. It can be a scary place to be. Stay safe friends. It is helpful to understand the philosophy behind this type of impulsive thoughts and does add confidence and ease to rising above such tendencies.

  • @user-xf4kh1nf7p
    @user-xf4kh1nf7pАй бұрын

    Existential Nihilism Metaphysical Nihilism Systematic Nihilism One is born from the absence/presence of yearning for fulfillment, satisfaction,Purpose Second one is born from Apathy, Indifference, Amorality, Depression, pessimism, dysphoria Third one is born from Society's involvement either directly or indirectly

  • @CapslockActive
    @CapslockActiveАй бұрын

    Terrific video! But I have a question: you say that the total nihilist would simply rot, but could also react reflexively. I do confirm rotting in the sense of physical decay due to lack of care, but I would argue that at a certain point the body would reflexively seek out and consume food and drink without seeing any greater value behind it. You could argue that this gives life a greater value than death, but I think that this happens, but not in the conscious part of our mind, but in an animal part, so it wouldn't count. I would like your / your opinions on this

  • @DJWESG1

    @DJWESG1

    Ай бұрын

    Doesn't really explain hunger strikes and eating disorders. One a choice the other not so.

  • @elizabethwinsor5140
    @elizabethwinsor514018 күн бұрын

    "Being" is the reason for life ....enjoy !

  • @curerose0630
    @curerose063022 күн бұрын

    Nihilism. Ah… the question that left me awake many nights, wondering if there even is a reason for me being here 11:20 as someone who struggles to do something I know is good for me, I can very much relate to this 😅

  • @StoneHerne
    @StoneHerneАй бұрын

    😃 Thank you! 😃

  • @nomadman5288
    @nomadman5288Ай бұрын

    I reached a point where I've concluded that we are not in a position to answer the question of meaning properly. From where we stand, the questions themselves are nonsensical. What does it even mean to ask what the "utlimate" meaning of life is or if it exists? How would we even know if we disovered what it was? It doesn't seem like we have a context in which such an exerpience would be possible to decifer. Our perceptions and ability to understand is too limited, which means that even if there were an 'ultimate meaning,' it's silly to presume we'd recognize it, let alone be able to comprehend it. Or perhaps it's so simple that we don't notice it at all. It could be like looking for your keys all over the house while they're in your pocket.

  • @idontknowwhatahandleisohwell
    @idontknowwhatahandleisohwellАй бұрын

    i think double entry bookkeeping helps understand the concept of "value" better than anything else because it demonstrates what value IS and what it ISNT - case in point: if i have an apple, and you have an orange and we trade, I value your orange more than i value my apple; as you value my apple more than your orang. once we have traded, we are both better off. objectively this is the highest possible "value" for both items.....however you have to start with the subjective individual evaluation of both items separately then in conjunction. i could work out the GLs for this but that is too much for a KZread video lol

  • @MrPatrickslovell
    @MrPatrickslovell10 күн бұрын

    I dig your stuff!

  • @tomdalsin5175
    @tomdalsin517515 күн бұрын

    The one thing which must have value is value; value must be reflexive. If value itself has no value, then no value statements are relevant. If you assert the axiom that value is reflexive, generating value and assigning value becomes important. Subjective beings generate and/or assign value. Thus if value is reflexive, life has value insofar as it contributes to the "value game" We don't need objective value. Subjective value and value reflexivity are all we need to build a coherent moral philosophy. Even if nihilism is true, subjective value and value reflexivity are a foundation upon which to build meaningful existence.

  • @jonnyblamey
    @jonnyblameyАй бұрын

    I love your videos. I wonder if you are right about the “rot” version of extreme nihilism? Isn’t “you wouldn’t wash because you don’t see the value in being clean” symmetrical with “you would wash because you don’t see the value in being dirty”. Also there may be other motives other than value creation. The advanced Buddhist who is beyond desire and has attained Nirvana May still act and be.

  • @MichaelPiz

    @MichaelPiz

    Ай бұрын

    Being clean requires effort. Being dirty just happens. You don't need motivation to get dirty.

  • @jonnyblamey

    @jonnyblamey

    Ай бұрын

    Hi, it’s a fair point. But surely making an effort versus not making an effort is a value judgement. People who have been forced to work all their lives will tend to be very apathetic and self indulgent when they have time off. But that is not natural. People who are forced to sit in a cell in isolation will begged to be released and return to a life of action and decision. Nietzsche in Beyond Good and evil observed that the British love work so much because they have a forced inculcated fast from work once a week on Sundays where they are not permitted to work. Also unemployment is usually seen as a problem, not a luxury. If I have a day off, I might happily spend time swimming, walking, cooking food, and having a long bath or two. Not because I see a value in being clean or healthy or well fed, but because that is how I spend my leisure if I am not compelled. I don’t believe that cats and dogs have value systems. If they don’t it doesn’t stop them hunting mice, chasing tennis balls and licking themselves clean. It would be a dog with a specific philosophical illness who simply lay down and died because it didn’t see the value in eating or self grooming.

  • @MichaelPiz

    @MichaelPiz

    Ай бұрын

    @@jonnyblamey I agree that making an effort is a value judgment. More precisely, it's the _consequence_ of making a value judgment. But making a value judgment doesn't always lead to effort. Generally, that's for trivial or obvious reasons, such as being unable to perform the actions due to illness and such. But there are those who make value judgments and deliberately reject the effort that would otherwise result. I'm sure that falls into one or another type of nihilism. Also, different people will make different value judgments in similar (if not identical) circumstances. The _full_ personal context for each individual determines the individual decision. And some value judgments lead to a decision _not_ to act. Depending on your definition, that may or may not qualify as "effort" but it is a possible result. BTW, dogs and cats don't have value _systems_ but they do have _values._ You listed some of them. All living things have things that are of value to them, even if they don't possess the capacity to understand or describe that fact.

  • @jonnyblamey

    @jonnyblamey

    Ай бұрын

    @@MichaelPiz Yes, we can argue all the way down. If cats and dogs are not natural nihilists, then nihilism becomes not a philosophy but a kind of mental disability. Nihilism about all values is a philosophical stance. Surely the positive claim is that there ARE values. I don’t believe it makes sense to say that a cat believes that there are values. It does not believe that mice are valuable, or sleep is valuable. Suppose a cat chases a mouse, fails to catch it, gets bored and goes to sleep. Do we have to impose a shifting array of values where the cat values sleep less than mice and then flips to valuing sleep more than mice? I think it unnecessary and you can explain the cats behaviour without attributing beliefs about values to the cat.

  • @deathsinger1192
    @deathsinger11924 күн бұрын

    I'd like to add one more, one I discovered about four years ago, when I was 13. I'd like to call it absolute Nihilism and the first thing is that, in it's true form, absolute nihilism isn't even theoretically describable. Decarte said you know for sure that you yourself exist and may it be just in the moment you realize that you think, but I don't think so, I think that whatever would be manipulating me has complete control over logical thinking, therefore "I" don't have to be, yet "something'" has to. The Problem is that "something" doesn't describe the absurdity of how little about it I actually know, because I know nothing and I cannot say that I cannot describe "it" because that designates "it" therefore, reminding of the famous saying "the boundaries of my language are the boundaries of my world" I cannot describe absolute nihilism, because everything, even "I think, therefore I am" is built on this fundamental trust into what I cannot linguistically distance myself from being trustworthy. Absolute Nihilism rejects any trust or should I say "belief", therefore I not only have to reject belief in the physical reality, which the rejection of is some interstage in between total and absolute nihilism, but also belief in what I cannot even describe (none of this comes close because it is not possible to get any close than infinitely far from describing absolute nihilism). From this revelation comes my opinion, that conscious live, existence, being is not only impossible without belief in the unprovable, but also in the undescribable. Luckily I have always been Christian and therefore had my belief in god to prevent me from becoming a practicing absolute nihilist. From all this I also derive that rationality, which I was obsessed with and which led to me to this, is a dead end without belief and therefore useless without belief and the meaning of life, which is to not be a practicing absolute nihilist and therefore to believe in something, anything at all and in extension, to act consciously on the basis of this belief. I choose to trust and believe in god.

  • @onurozen1683
    @onurozen1683Ай бұрын

    Honey wake up, king uploaded a new video 🗿

  • @SuperGreatSphinx

    @SuperGreatSphinx

    Ай бұрын

    God Save The King

  • @rationaldreamer5766
    @rationaldreamer5766Ай бұрын

    Looking at the case of a theoretical nihilist, I believe we've all absorbed the contextual world which would subsequently continue to counteract our drive towards practical nihilism. There's something called optimism bias and survival instinct - all these come with the contextual world we live in.

  • @nasrinvahidi5515
    @nasrinvahidi5515Ай бұрын

    Very enlightening. Than you At core a nihilist is just that but it finds different forms. You dig a little and soon you’ll find it’s roots everywhere in their philosophy and in their actions. It stems from nothing (lack) and it’s fruit is nothingness.

  • @robberlin2230
    @robberlin2230Ай бұрын

    I find this to be more helpful. Considering time is only a dimension, we understand more about our existence it raises more questions not less. He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has also set eternity in the hearts of men; yet they cannot fathom what God has done from beginning to end.

  • @philyeary8809

    @philyeary8809

    4 күн бұрын

    Ecclesiastes

  • @TSG042
    @TSG0425 күн бұрын

    I'd like to politely throw in my two cents. Nihilism can kinda be interpreted in different ways, and that interpretation part can really make or break a person's life. The idea of meaning is entirely subjective, and people can take the phrase "nothing matters" a million different ways. It's a comforting thing for me, but it can absolutely diminish another person's will to live. In the end, I take solace in nihilism, but I'm not saying it's always a source of comfort.

  • @Hellysal
    @HellysalАй бұрын

    0:12 42, next question

  • @Everywhere4
    @Everywhere4Ай бұрын

    I am a meta meta-ethical relativist, there are no absolute truths about whether or not values have truth values. But I think it doesn’t matter whether or not values are true or false, the only thing that matters is what we value. If you look at the world, you can see that all living beings exhibit a behavior which I would call the drive to growth. This drive to growth manifest itself in the form of bodily growth, reproductive growth, growth of one’s abilities and growth of one’s power. If the essence of survival is self-sustainance then the essence of life is growth. Life that merely survives is not healthy, it’s stagnation is a sickness that slowly erodes life. So I wish to call that what is useful for the growth of life healthy and that what inhibits growth sick. This is for me, the meaning of life, and it is defined by greatness.

  • @WattisWatts
    @WattisWattsАй бұрын

    John Goodman said it all while talking to the Nihilists at the bowling alley parking lot.

  • @LaMach420
    @LaMach420Ай бұрын

    Do you practice SR by chance? Your eyes are stunning.

  • @shadeaquaticbreeder2914
    @shadeaquaticbreeder2914Ай бұрын

    2:36 the definitions of terms in vids like this always throw me off bc I don't feel like I've ever looked at nihilism in that way and by your definition your discussion would be way off of what I would be talking about and I see that with a lot of vids. I mean that could be bc I'm just ignorant AF about all these texts n stuff but I like to think it's more due to perception, but that could be bc I'm ignorant lol. Oh and one of the biggest things is that is the definition you are using the same as the one from those whom you quote about the topic? If not then they technically aren't talking about the same thing lol.

  • @nick-rr6bm
    @nick-rr6bmАй бұрын

    This video came out just in time when I was thinking about this topic lol))) No living thing can be considered a nihilist because its existence contradicts nihilism itself. I used to consider myself a nihilist myself until I realized I was deeply mistaken about it. A true nihilist is only one who does not exist. The nothingness and impossibility of something may be attractive to us, but it is literally impossible and non-existent and we just have to accept this fact. Thank you for your reflection on the topic!

  • @fernandoorozco5968
    @fernandoorozco5968Ай бұрын

    I what to learn more

  • @jovanastanisic8629
    @jovanastanisic8629Ай бұрын

    If there is no heaven, it is pointless to go through hell. If you answer that: There is neither heaven nor hell, I create both myself. I don't agree, because if that's true, where is heaven? For all these centuries, humanity failed to create it? And more importantly, you cannot always escape from hell.

  • @unsolicitedadvice9198

    @unsolicitedadvice9198

    Ай бұрын

    Well on your first point, that seems to be a big worry people have nihilism - that it will prevent people having principles to organise their actions and bear suffering

  • @jovanastanisic8629

    @jovanastanisic8629

    Ай бұрын

    @@unsolicitedadvice9198 what you think about my the second point?

  • @pun15h3r.

    @pun15h3r.

    Ай бұрын

    Humanity can not create heaven. Cause we are just humans. But we can escape hell. If we are willing to. I guess it just comes down to how you personally think about it. If you believe or not. But in a video about nihilism this is kinda pointless i guess xD

  • @shadeaquaticbreeder2914
    @shadeaquaticbreeder2914Ай бұрын

    I thought it was pretty simple that there is no objective meaning to life just as there is no objective right or wrong it just is. But to us individually, we have to make our own meaning in the world or create meaning ourselves within ourselves. Just as a fish in a river doesn't mean anything and may mean nothing to you, but it has significant meaning to someone like me. Even though overall none of it means anything even in the end.

  • @papabird4425
    @papabird442521 күн бұрын

    Nobody can prove to me that anything has any intrinsic value, up to and including human life, but I still enjoy having fun and being comfortable. Whats that?

  • @BLOBJOB59
    @BLOBJOB592 күн бұрын

    dude, do you remember the villain from Yu-Gi-Oh? The white-haired fella, "Pegasus"?... You sound just like him; it is dope and adds to your thought-provoking videos.

  • @mikon-
    @mikon-20 күн бұрын

    The best question is: Does life even need a meaning? It will all be gone anyway. Who will even remember one's existence in 200 years or so? Right, nobody will (well, except if you are quite famous or influencial). That's one of the many reasons I'm an Existential Nihilist. Of course I'm not a total Nihilist. For me the position is more like: I think life has no value or meaning, but I don't care. I don't need my life to have any meaning because I will be forgotten anyway. No one will remember if or what value my life had.

  • @ethancoster1324
    @ethancoster1324Ай бұрын

    In the case of eating isn't the act instinctual rather than belief or value based? One may eat because they're hungry and the urge to do so overcomes any drive to abstain or starve. One eats because starving is dreadfully uncomfortable. Of course, ethically one could avoid eating, e.g. fasting, in some religious based practice, but this moral act might be surmounted by the physical need to eat to survive. You seemed to have answered this later in the video?😅

  • @MelFinehout
    @MelFinehoutАй бұрын

    In practice, it seems like people who actually call themselves Nihilistists are just depressed and this explains why. I personally don’t think there is any value inherent in anything, but that what we call “value” is the mind “valuing”. Or, I like to say “meaning is a verb, it is something we are doing”. That said, my values haven’t changed. I still do the same things. Because rarely do we actually consciously change these. And more often, we cling to whatever thoughts seem to uphold our values and practice license our action. And THAT is WHY the depressed are Nihilistic, because it supports how they innately feel.

  • @epruno3583
    @epruno3583Ай бұрын

    "No need to be scared Donny, they're Nihlists"

  • @ivanlu4044

    @ivanlu4044

    Ай бұрын

    I am the walrus? I am the walrus?! I am the walrus???

  • @randomshittutorials

    @randomshittutorials

    20 күн бұрын

    Nihilists like pineapple on pizza. I have spoken all I had to say...

  • @philyeary8809

    @philyeary8809

    4 күн бұрын

    😂 The plane has run into the goddamned mountain, Mr Lebowski!

  • @klosnj11
    @klosnj11Ай бұрын

    11:17 just because I have good reason to be motivated by something doesnt mean I will actually be motivated by it." Suddenly I have the image of David Hume blasting through your wall like thr Koolaid Guy. "OH YEAH! Reason is, and ought only to be the slave of the passions!"

  • @liamwebster425
    @liamwebster42528 күн бұрын

    So, the practical moral nialist has antisocial personality disorder?

  • @PinakiGupta82Appu
    @PinakiGupta82AppuАй бұрын

    Nietzsche warned us about the dangers of absolute nihilism. The nihilism Nietzsche perceived was supposed to be founded upon ethical values and practicality, driven by a renewed set of principles determined through logical hypothesis as opposed to absolute orthodoxy. Nietzsche was more of a reformist, best described as a practical nihilist, rather than being a nihilist in the verbatim connotation. After his death, a lot of his work was distorted by his sister, some of which were not even penned by Nietzsche.

  • @DJWESG1

    @DJWESG1

    Ай бұрын

    She does get the blame for a lot of it. But you can read clearly in his own words that he was a bat5hit nazi too. I think they used her to make him look like the abused sibling, to make his writing seem more palatable. I see no distinction between any of it. And you'd be hard pressed to see where his sister starts and he ends.

  • @PinakiGupta82Appu

    @PinakiGupta82Appu

    Ай бұрын

    @@DJWESG1 What Wikipedia has to say: Broadly speaking, despite Nietzsche's hostility towards anti-semitism and nationalism, the Nazis made selective use of Nietzsche's philosophy, and eventually, this association caused Nietzsche's reputation to suffer following World War II. IMHO: All governments that follow radical ideologies hide their true intent behind some sugarcoated promises. Be it Nazis or Maoists or Paul Pot Communists, they all had promised to bring staggering positive changes to society. After winning people's favour, they went after those who were utilised to fulfil the agenda. Germany had not been any better even before WW1. Nietzsche was arrested for showing empathy towards a horse. Nazis didn't do anything different when they entered Poland. Soviets' actions were no different when they entered Berlin. And, the USA's bombing of Berlin's civilians, which annihilated the Berlin Zoo was no different. An agitator's promise is never meant to be delivered. They're there to take advantage of the democratic ladder. Hitler was one of those examples. Not every revolutionary who turned into a politician had the intention of serving the people. Initially, they make fools of people. In that sense, India was a die-hard supporter of Communism after WW2. We failed to anticipate how that thing would turn out to be in reality. Did Nitzsche support Nazism? I guess, the answer will be somewhat of an indirect no. Nazis used Nietzsche the way they used Hinduism's Swastika and the British Aryan Invasion theory. Even his sister was compelled to support Nazis. Will you be allowed to speak against Kim in North Korea even today? According to Wikipedia: The era of Nazi rule (1933-1945) saw Nietzsche's writings widely studied in German (and, after 1938, Austrian) schools and universities. Despite the fact that Nietzsche had expressed his disgust with plebeian-volkist antisemitism and supremacist German nationalism in the most forthright terms possible (e.g. he resolved "to have nothing to do with anyone involved in the perfidious race-fraud"), phrases like "the will to power" became common in Nazi circles. The wide popularity of Nietzsche among Nazis stemmed in part from the endeavors of his sister, Elisabeth Förster-Nietzsche, the editor of Nietzsche's work after his 1889 breakdown, and an eventual Nazi sympathizer. Mazzino Montinari, while editing Nietzsche's posthumous works in the 1960s, found that Förster-Nietzsche, while editing the posthumous fragments making up The Will to Power, had cut extracts, changed their order, quoted him out of context, etc.[29]

  • @KingOfGamesss
    @KingOfGamesssАй бұрын

    0:11 The meaning of Life is to Live for the 'After-Death' (A.K.A. 'After-Life')...for the POSSIBILITY of it's Existence

  • @antoocello5289
    @antoocello5289Ай бұрын

    Nietzsche is pretty goated

  • @unsolicitedadvice9198

    @unsolicitedadvice9198

    Ай бұрын

    I do like him (got another video out on him next week)

  • @th525
    @th525Ай бұрын

    For me, nihilism is the rejection of the whole category (e.g. God). It's not that I value the category (in this case, God) less or in an infinitesimally small way. I just do not believe in the category of God. THAT is the void. But I still like your approach of making the concept of nihilism more accessible.

  • @merxj

    @merxj

    Ай бұрын

    Exactly, I commented something similar. The act of choosing what to be nihilistic about within a category implies that you associate vale to its parts. For example, I find it fine to be nihilistic about social norms and rejecting the whole concept, but disagreeing with only some of them is the opposite of nihilism, as in doing so you are effectively assigning value to the alternatives.

  • @DJWESG1

    @DJWESG1

    Ай бұрын

    They made it about god. Its got nothing to do with God's, monsters or the beleif in them.

  • @merxj

    @merxj

    Ай бұрын

    @DJWESG1 I don't think so. They used God only as an example.

  • @Stoitism
    @StoitismАй бұрын

    Humans are meaning-creators. Perhaps the seemingly meaningless nature of the reality we inhabit is purposeful in that the meaninglessness allows us to create genuine meaning that is deeply important to us. If we choose to.

  • @merxj
    @merxjАй бұрын

    I would argue that the cherry-picking of moral values or social conventions is actually at the opposite end of nihilism, as the act of choosing implies the assignment of value.

  • @ImNoBSING
    @ImNoBSINGАй бұрын

    I think the overall nihilism is most biggest problem. As you can chart nations with GDP, you can chart them by overall nihilism. It shows out as overall littering and disregard for contracts, honor and human life and how other humans view their life.

  • @OuroboricIdealism
    @OuroboricIdealismАй бұрын

    The term "nihilism", in the context of philosophy, actually is a reference to the condition that arises given the impartial application of reason; and it is impossible to really have a firm grasp of what the term "nihilism" refers to or means (in the context of philosophy, particularly in the context of western philosophy) if one does not have an understanding of the sources of that term in a philosophical context. The description given in the video above of the term "nihilism" is a quite superficial one (although it is not entirely incorrect), and is incomplete simply because it does not consider the sources of that term: to fully understand the meaning of "nihilism", in a philosophical context, one must regard F.H. Jacobi's analysis of "nihilism", and his insistence that reason, impartially applied, leads to the condition described by Hume at the close of the first book of his Treatise of Human Nature. Though the description of "nihilism" given in the video above is not entirely incorrect or inaccurate, it is superficial and does not do full justice to the philosophical context of that term ("nihilism"), since Jacobi's analysis is not considered, and since the skepticism of Hume is never mentioned.

  • @unsolicitedadvice9198

    @unsolicitedadvice9198

    Ай бұрын

    I agree that they can give important context (I actually reference the historical context along similar lines briefly in the video). I was just more interested in giving a conceptual analysis for use in conversation, rather than giving a historical account. Ultimately I would argue to understand nihilism from a historical perspective you would have to go much farther back, and look at the treatment of mortality in The Epic of Gilgamesh, and certainly later themes in Ecclesiastes, as well as the notion of the inevitable in Ancient Greek tragedy. I fear beginning with Hume and Jacobi would not be going nearly as far back as one would need for philosophical context. I fear giving the origins of nihilistic philosophy as originating in Humean empiricism would also be superficial as far as giving philosophical context goes.