Grant: "I think we're okay..." Narrator: "He was not okay."

Hello, Nadrel here, In this mission, the changes introduced by Moebius are the following: - Increased enemy attack waves and defenses - Bonus Credits for saving more colony outposts. - Protoss cannons on the map. - Added a reaper attack path to the final Protoss base. The changes already added by Nightmare are the following: - Units turned into Aiur Variants (+ stalkers are nerazim). - Avengers sent to attack mineral line. - 2nd and 3rd Colonist outposts have mineral fields - Purifier: Range and Vision increased to 15. Can attack 3 targets at once. Damage increased. Speed between bases increased. Design Thoughts: I restored the bridge that was removed by Nightmare and added more defenses instead. The goal was to make it a non-optimal way to attack, but not an impossible one. Reason is that I didn't want to limit the strategies usable by the player. There is also an additional attack angle for people who want to use reapers. Viking should probably see a change, they are weaker against single target than Dropship but better against groups of units with the splash and they have more range, they are also stronger versus ground while landed. However, I agree that they are boring. The way I see the viking is that they are a long range anti-air artillery with the ability to fight on the ground if needed. I might look into increasing their strength to give them more personality.

@TheBlanketMan

Жыл бұрын

I really liked the buff that co-op mengsk Vikings got, where they get a temporary damage bonus when swapping modes. For me it made them very interesting for picking off high value targets on the ground even though it makes them more vulnerable

@vonriel1822

Жыл бұрын

What if the Vikings got something like the corrosive effect from the Zerg's Corruptors? They're meant to be a fire support unit, I figure that would be fairly thematic. Maybe something like a reduced version of the old Devourer passive on its shots?

@zhadez10

Жыл бұрын

I think with the Vikings incredible anti air range they shouldn't have splash damage (also overlaps with missile frigates) and not having the best dps is fine given their range So I think just swap out their splash damage upgrade for something fun, though I'll admit I'm not sure what that could be

I like the Science Vessel here. With Guardian Shield and Mass Recall it feels kind of like an Arbiter. Definitely better than the glorified repair-bot it was before.

@CrowitzerTheHoloFan

Жыл бұрын

you know what would be better? Science Vessels capable of loading Medics in them

@glenmcgillivray4707

Жыл бұрын

@@CrowitzerTheHoloFan flying bunkers which let things inside cast and attack outside could be fun.

@kindkindred

Жыл бұрын

@@CrowitzerTheHoloFan Also add that they can produce workers

@CrowitzerTheHoloFan

Жыл бұрын

@@kindkindred no, no workers. M.U.L.E.S instead, permanent ones that could serve as distraction in emergencies

Honestly, I feel like the dropships are basically useless when you have the Herc. They're too squishy, and any type of cheese you could pull off with them, you could also do with the Herc because of its bulk letting it get to where it needs to. The new 'heal the units inside' perk is basically useless when you bring medics to almost every fight anyway because they heal mechs and have the slow grenade. I imagine they're much more useful when you choose the Predator instead, since they're not overshadowed by big daddy Herc at literally everything.

@irvansyah123

Жыл бұрын

I thought so too, I was hoping to see Kerrigan vs predator considering she is a psionic

@MrTapkomet

Жыл бұрын

Btw, do medics heal units while inside transports? I know they do inside bunkers

@dukex123

Жыл бұрын

I personally like the design that the Herc replaces the Medivac. Mostly because the Herc is a major commitment. You get it instead of the invisible cuddle-cat. If you go for the cuddle-cat instead, you have to rely on the Medivac. I like that those decisions feel like they matter. Instead of choosing one or the other and it basically doesn't matter because you don't use either of them or you just have to work around it a little.

@SittingOnEdgeman

Жыл бұрын

In this campaign, I think the dropship should be "fast, light, hard" when it comes to design to separate it from the Hercules... the cloak is a step in that direction. Maybe a ranged pickup like a warp prism (potentially as one of the paid upgrades) would help it feel more unique.

@blazethegryphon9990

Жыл бұрын

@@SittingOnEdgeman Would love the ability of ranged pickup/drop off, mass recalls into and out of it both make sense with the whole "protoss technology in terran units" and make it a micro monster able to do things hercs could only dream of

I want to see the shoot-while-moving composition on Gates of Hell (Hellion, Diamondback, missile frigate)

@The-jy3yq

Жыл бұрын

Don't Goliaths shoot on move too?

@dingledln

Жыл бұрын

@@The-jy3yq if they do, they would be good anti air to add to the composition

@hebercluff1665

Жыл бұрын

@@dingledln they do in this mod

science vessels also apply the stat bonuses of the recon tower, of the extra 1 range and 10% more attack speed

Remember, the Dropship is also a Wraith. Literally. So everything you could use a wraith for, you can use the dropship for, /and/ you can do drops with it. It has the wraith laser, /and/ the wraith anti-air attack too. Sure, the laser sucks, but that AA attack is solid (since the wraith has the same problem as the scout, being too specialized and single target.)

@Ricardo_Rick

Жыл бұрын

I like how you say that the dropship is like a Wraith like that would be an inprovement XD just kidding, but really, there is no point in making them if you have hercules

@iglidor

Жыл бұрын

Wraith would be ok for normal campaign, but this is Moebius Nightmare. And plain old Wraith simply does not cut it. Especialy when you have thing like Misile Frigates around. Those are insane.

@ham_the_spam4423

Жыл бұрын

@@VeryPeeved spending and losing all your money if you feel like the game is too easy!

In defence of the colonist decision to settle on haven, it very much was a desperation move on their part. Like you’ve lost your planet, the backup planet and there’s a literal Zerg invasion still actively happening. They really didn’t have other options and I was a hope they didn’t get found really

@iglidor

Жыл бұрын

The stupid part was the bullshit "eh, zerg infection? I am 100% sure that our panicked and chaotic retreat with lots of refugees managed to screen everyone perfectly. My reliable source for that is "Just trust me". How dare you question such source?" that good doctor threw at Raynor.

The lazy colonists have that many hercules but they're just sitting around doing nothing instead of easily pumping out enough units to blow up the mothership themselves!

Hey Grant. I saw ur comments were locked and I saw the name of your video before you changed it in the Moebius mod part after this. I just wanted to say, you have been KILLING it with these daily (double daily with twitch trolls) uploads for a while now. If you need a break, please by all means take one. I get how strenuous daily work can be if you do it daily for a long LONG time, especially if you have to cut out sleep to make everything work. Do yourself a favor, and take some time. Please, I've seen too many youtubers I love crash and burn over their work. You do amazing things with your uploads, and I don't want them to stop one day all of a sudden, for any reason. Weather that be from fatigue or... other reasons, just take some Grant time and live your life for a couple days, then come back to us. - A concerned fan

That recall into a storm... That hurt

Ah, see there's your problem. Ya got a bunch of Clonists among your colonists. Can't ever trust those folk. (Good job with this mission Grant. This series is still fun to watch)

Why are comments disabled on episode 19?

@Necrohellion

Жыл бұрын

He always does that when he makes bad gameplay decisions, because he doesn't like when people tell him that he made bad gameplay decisions

Nice, Grant saving the colony with Goliaths. I really want to see the Thor, so Grant can do the Mech comps.

Ooh, I just had a thought: Cloaked stinky ships. The dropship does have an actual attack so it's kinda not a lemming even if it is. Imagine versus zerg units it could be quite devastating since the stinky would last the full duration on the ships whereas if on a unit would normally die when its meatbag hp goes null.

"I could have taken this expansion ! I'm an idiot !" -Grant *me not realising i could take the expansion just before a finish the map* ... "well thanks Grant !!"

Mass Recall Hercules for added craziness.

Drop Ship perma cloak is a new thing, definitely appreciated though

Thanks for uploading just before I get ready to sleep

Dropship shenanigans will be great on the morbius factor - morbin time

Jesus Mary & Joseph, what a cake walk... despite the toss having +4, +5 upgrades (?!), you still crushed it. Having mass recall wasn't even needed, which btw is OP as AF.

Maw of the void is honestly a joke with shields on all your air units, so it is definitely more fun to go ground. Since you have the Hercules, I would recommend trying viking/siege tank, with a small medic/marine/dark templar group for defense and repairs. Having two hard hitting groups, one for ground and one for air, makes this one very interesting. Just use the starting units to bust the expansion quickly, fly over your factory and start building. Plus you might be the first person to record beating Maw of the Void by breaking the vault with a surround of siege tanks.

the delay on the warp is a killer if you do it onto enemy splash units > i wonder how viable it is to kill 3 nexus in 11 minutes, specially with the defenders present and does downing them stop it attacking the settlements or do you have to kill the mothership too, because im not sure even with cheese thats realistically doable in the timeframe

@GerMorden

Жыл бұрын

Upgraded turrets and Goliaths on defence, Vikings on offence. Its hard but doable.

Thanks for the upload :)

You always talked about going Spartans and diamondbacks. Add missile frigates and you good.

Ya the Zerg Mission is WAY easier to get the bonuses.

Now you can go to archives and do the haven's fall version too, to see if there is any significant change there as well

I agree with the rest of the comments that the dropship seems useless when you have the herc. It being cloaked could differentiate it, but nightmare has static defenced so many of the normal cloaked cheese routes that it's going to be universally better to just herc it up. Esspecially without it having a proper heal, as you still need medics, negating the major advantage medivacs normally have over medics.

Thanks for the fun! ^^

i'd like to see a full stealth cheese comp with banshees, medivacs and spectres, atleast for one mission

7:55 are the colonists not hostile to the protoss?

last night i had a dream where there was a unit called Marine Line or something like that the only thing i could think of was spelling with marines. I don’t know why it appeared, but uh… Wings of memes? hehe i would like to see the new thor if it’s available btw

really wanna see a deathless run of this mod

Thanks for all the great content Grant you rock!!! Also I'm Number 2 sweet!

I want to see the artifact taken with hercs in hercs!

i make mutliple science vessels so i can recall my units at base to the front lines and vice versa

I think sneaky drops and cloaked units for Maw of the void next. Maybe in combination with hit-and-run BCs to snipe photon cannons. See if the Dark Templars can go in the medivac.

i wish the bonus objectives completing werent bugged. its not anything but a nag, but itd be nice to have a cool little check mark on the top left lol

On haven fall its possible to get all the money while this mission counteracts how you get viking upgrades and get the money

I have a question grant for maw of the void the battlecruiser mission since the rip-field generator damages unit which dont have shields what will it do now since your units now have shields?

Hey Grant! I dont know if you've done this as a challenge before. But what about Star Craft WoL Nightmare No Upgrades?

Will there be a mod similar to this for Hots?

Glad that you upgraded the Dropship. You didn't take note in the mission where you first received that unit, that it actually has an attack, and is therefor more useful in fights than a traditional medivac or hercules.

@ultraliskbuilder5831

Жыл бұрын

It's less useful in fights it doesn't heal.

Is it possible to save all 4 settlements?

Yay! Vikings

It would've been cool if they added a minigun for the banshee in this mod, would've made it more usable if it could defend itself from air units with bonus against light armored units. Better for tvz parts of the campaign

do landing vikings that load into dropships to do their thing

Oh, we got Vikings first! Good, I always save the Capital ship and Capital Walker for last.

ask Artosis if Mass Recall is good or not :P

Honestly, I do not want to see infantry only. I want to see mass battlecruiser

I actually missed what the Banshee's upgrades on this mod can anyone give a highlight?

@JudgeAnnibal

Жыл бұрын

Same as usual, Cloak costs 0 energy (plus the "Dodge while cloaked" that all cloak units have in this mod) and Shockwave Missiles (Line AoE attacks)

@hijiriyukari

Жыл бұрын

@@JudgeAnnibal Thanks!

go for the BC it's really good!

It says the Viking does area damage, does that mean he made it to where it works on the ground as well?

Just a side question can someone help me with my starcraft 2

I've never liked vikings. They're just not fun to use, mostly due to the micromanagement of their clunky transformation. But, even if that could be fixed, the idea of an inferior wraith that can turn into an inferior goliath was dubious to begin with.

Random comment for channel interaction.

Hi!

@momom6197

Жыл бұрын

Hello!

Didn't side with waifu

day 123 of asking grant to do reapers only

@SpencerJWang

Жыл бұрын

That might actually be great in this mod

@simpteam6289

Жыл бұрын

This mod makes reapers viable. It did what nobody thought was possible and I love it

@horner385

Жыл бұрын

Maybe Grant is waiting for you to reach day 365 Keep going do not fail His trial

@momom6197

Жыл бұрын

Slowly but surely, you're getting more likes each time. Eventually you'll reach top comment!

@razvanvasilache7834

Жыл бұрын

@@horner385 that was my plan i wanna got ill 2 years

Always sad seeing youtubers doing normal runs. My favorite comp is Goliath/Thor (doesn't work well on brutal, sadly) but you never see it because Media Blitz is always so late in the campaigns

@The-jy3yq

Жыл бұрын

The one campaign where Grant went mass-Thors for like a half of the campaign was awesome