I'd like to imagine a reality where the iPhone 9 met Windows 9 and they all lived happily ever after. ...But assuming this isn't the case, what's your personal theory? What happened to the iPhone 9, and why'd Apple decide to skip it? Very curious to hear opinions on this one!

@MarioNotLuigi

6 ай бұрын

Well we all know that Seven Eight Nine! (;

@91Tech

6 ай бұрын

@@MarioNotLuigi I resisted making that joke all video and you just had to go and ruin it haha

@Claro1993

6 ай бұрын

I think the reason Microsoft skipped windows 9 is because of Windows 95 and Windows 98.

@MarioNotLuigi

6 ай бұрын

;D@@91Tech

@NicVandEmZ

6 ай бұрын

@@91Techforgot about se version of iPhone

I heard that Samsung went from S10 to S20 because it was 2020 and they wanted the releases to coincide with the year, ie 2020 =S20, 2021 =S21, 2022 =S22, etc.

@roseairmusic8521

6 ай бұрын

It does, I worked in a phone shop during 2017 and know some reps, thats the exact reason it happened according to Samsung reps.

@namechecksout6300

6 ай бұрын

This is correct! Not speculation.

@bussy_eyelashes

6 ай бұрын

It is tho. I think this is not a speculation at all.

@RobloxianX

6 ай бұрын

that is horrendously stupid id be perfectly happy with Samsung releasing the S15 next year

@futurepaver2039

6 ай бұрын

Says the same company who released the A54 long before 2054

Never really thought about it, as Apple simply wanted to make their fully redesigned iPhone on the 10th year anniversary have a milestone name, so iPhone X made way more sense than iPhone 9 or a third iPhone 8 (i.e 8s, 8 Pro, or similar). Makes enough sense to me. But if we were going to ask where the iPhone 9 went, I'd say the XR or the second iPhone SE fits the bill.

@IHeartMacsH8r5

6 ай бұрын

To me the XR is the true iPhone 9. It's a redesigned iPhone 8. Same build materials, but into the modern era. I would've loved if that was the iPhone 9 instead of the XR. That made no sense at all in terms of nomenclature.

@graalera3365

6 ай бұрын

Apple shouldn't skip numbers its dont make no sense why iphone se 1 and iphone se 2 including iphone se 3 have fake names apple should rename iphone se be call iphone mini 6 for iphone se 1 and mini iphone 8 for iphone se 2 including mini 7 iphone for iphone se 3 more processor chip power

@bradstercivic

6 ай бұрын

@@IHeartMacsH8r5 That makes no sense, the XR came after the X? How could that be a 9?

@v5k456jh3

6 ай бұрын

Because it's a clear downgrade from X but upgrade from 8. Duh..@@bradstercivic

@Th4tNiggaSpiderman

5 ай бұрын

There is no iphone 9 its 8 to 10 thats it they just skip a number i swear people are so dumb lol

91Tech has become my new binge watching comfort channel 😭

@91Tech

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

@PrinceaIIy

6 ай бұрын

Same.

@wiiownsps3and360

6 ай бұрын

Same rip toilet seat and anyone else being able to use it. 💀

@I-See-In-The-Dark

6 ай бұрын

Same I have autism

The XR is the iPhone 9 in my book. Granted, we may never know the true reasoning behind the jump from the 8 to the X, but in this case I think we can assume (to a reasonable degree) that the XR was the iPhone 9.

@BigAl_00

5 ай бұрын

There was rumors that the XR was originally called iPhone 9 but it was changed to XR last second right before it’s announcement. To be fair; it was probably a better idea.

@yaseminkemal5052

5 ай бұрын

I had the XR for five years i got it when it was first out and it was brilliant for me. Only upgarded to the iphone 15 last October. It does seem like a good middle ground between the 8 and the iphone X.

Bottom Line: The iPhone 9 is missing because 7, 8, 9. You’re welcome.

I'd say iPhone SE 2020 is the missing iPhone 9, and SE 2022 is the iPhone 10 (not X). It's weird but so is Apple naming convention, iPad 4 was high end in 2012, but 5 years later they released the iPad 5 which was the cheapest iPad. Same could be said about iPad Air 2 and Air 3, high end to mid range. Kinda similar to the iPhone situation in my books.

@Jovian_Man

6 ай бұрын

List of iPhones naming schemes in the SE lineup if a year later after the IPhone SE (1st gen) were the SE naming scheme are being scrap, and cancel. iPhone SE (1st gen), 2016, 1 model (SE (1st gen)). iPhone 9R, 2020, 3 Models (9R, 9R Pro, and 9R Pro Max). iPhone 9R-2, 2022, 4 Models (9R-2, 9R-2 Mini, 9R-2 Pro, and 9R-2 Pro Max). iPhone 9, 2024, 4 Models (9, 9 Plus, 9 Pro, and 9 Pro Max). iPhone 19, 2027, 4 Models (19, 19 Plus, 19 Pro, and 19 Pro Max). iPhone 20R, 2027, 4 Models (20R, 20R Plus, 20R Pro, and 20R Pro Max). iPhone 21R, 2028, 4 Models (21R, 21R Plus, 21R Pro, and 21R Pro Max). iPhone 22R, 2029, 4 Models (22R, 22R Plus, 22R Pro, and 22R Pro Max).

@bradstercivic

6 ай бұрын

I mean, the 2022 SE could be the iPhone 9s? That would make some sense

@ThibautMahringer

6 ай бұрын

@@bradstercivic Indeed, I was thinking in the iPad way, but 9S makes indeed more sense.

@davonwoods9510

4 ай бұрын

The xr should have been the original IPhone 9

Aint no way bro just turned into Vsauce

It’s pretty crazy just how little has changed over the years with the iPhone other than the camera in the last five years or so. Apple really should consider some sort of UI refresh after all of these years. They’re still going with the same parallax UI from iOS 7 at this point.

@IamJay02

6 ай бұрын

It's crazy how apple releases the same phone every year and dumbasses still buy it

@CaptainGameSlayer

6 ай бұрын

They refuse to update the ugly ass flat shaded interface because "it just works" and Apple is notorious for riding the ship until it sinks when it comes to adapting to change.

@DavidKen878

6 ай бұрын

Okay? If it's not broken, then why fix it. Literally no one is complaining.

@IamJay02

6 ай бұрын

@@DavidKen878 a lot of people are complaining ☠️

@Amphibax

5 ай бұрын

@@IamJay02 maybe a lot of people in the tech scene but normal people just don't care as long as it works.

Or, the iPhone X was released in 2017 with only one size because they already had issues securing enough OLED Panels and Face ID sensors. It was a great way to start shipping a better iPhone despite these constraints.

Uh I think Samsung just matched the model names with the year. 2020 - S20, 2021 - S21 etc. Sounds good to me. Also wasn’t the SE 2 rumoured to be called iPhone 9 at first initially?

Hey thanks for the video. I'm enjoying your take a step back and look at tech videos. I'm not sure what else to call them but anyway they're really interesting

This is relaxing to watch.... Thanks 👍🏾

I always get so excited whenever 91Tech post a new video

On point bro great video all makes alot of sense

Apple should’ve called the iPhone 8 the iPhone 7 S, because that is what it really was. The iPhone 8 didn’t add anything new externally except for a glass back that’s it.

@VictorTrnka

6 ай бұрын

Exactly!

@davonwoods9510

4 ай бұрын

That means they would not have a glass back with wireless charging

Naming is not so simple. Samsung wanted to follow the last 2 digits to the year they have announced

12:49 Also from Samsung on why the Note series went from 5 to 7 and skipping the 6, is so the Galaxy Note lineup won’t appear as a generation behind from the flagship Galaxy S series.

Love the vids!

Because 9 for some reason is a cursed number. Notice, if you pay attention to it, how leaks are saying even Nintendo is going straight to Mario Kart X or 10 from 8 deluxe. Weird trend

I never thought about it like this, but your theory makes complete sense.

I went from thinking it was some far fetched theory to being convinced by the end that you are right. Most likely the X would never have existed and instead of XS it would have been iPhone 9, 9 Pro and 9 Plus. But the form factor of 8 was so old at that point that they had to do release the X that year. And it seemed to have worked considering Android phones for years copied the notch. Unfortunately it’s unlikely Apple would ever say if you are right.

@hobosnake1

5 ай бұрын

What flagship phones tried copying the notch? I mean, I guess budget Chinese phones, but I can't think of a phone from samsung, Google, oneplus, Sony, or any other major brand that decided to use the notch. It was very largely unpopular amongst android users and even many iphone users still wish their screen was uninterrupted. It kept me from iphone for a very long time. I still hate it, although I'm used to it.

@kvendy

5 ай бұрын

@@hobosnake1 omg you dont remember the ugly google pixel 3 XL notch

The rush production of iPhone X was the reason there were so many iPhone 8 chasis laying around and ended up being the iPhone SE 2 and 3

We are only 3 years away from the iPhone 20 anniversary edition so there may not be an iPhone 19 , but it's actually crazy that we have had iPhones for nearly 20 years now. I thought it was great to get a special anniversary edition iPhone that was totally redesigned and was the blueprint for all there future phones, i got one as a secondary phone and it's still such a capable device that's quite fast and the battery lasts all day even though it's at 87% battery health, i love it's size too because it's slightly smaller than the plus/pro models so it's easier to hold in daily settings. I definitely think the Xr was the iPhone 9 and i think it should have been named that because a lot of the backlash it received was because it was in the X family name which was quite high end, I think that's why the SE models work so well because they are their own family line and people know they are not the high end models whereas the Xr made it seem like you couldn't afford the X/Xs models.

@SamiSaba2

16 күн бұрын

But then we only have iPhone 15 right now and then 15+3 = 18 so they might have to skip 18 and 19 for the sake of XX

iPhone XS is so underrated. It has so many improvements over the X, it started the new era that’s until today, the iPhone X ended the 6s -X era. It’s so much better, you should definitely check better and even use them side by side.

I had the product red iPhone XR and I really liked that phone. I didn’t get any of the tens, but I went straight from the 10 hour to the iPhone 11 Pro Max. Huge upgrade. But the 10 hour was a good phone and it held its own. When people back on the iPhone and they look at the TR, it will be with fondness for what it was. And for what it was it rocked.

When the Model Number is matching the Year it is much more easier for anyone to understand, so 2020 Galaxy S20, 2021 Galaxy S21... - 2023 Galaxy S23 etc.

happy Christmas josh

The reason is simple. The number 9 is considered bad luck in Japan. It holds a superstition the way 9 is pronounced it shares “ku” and that’s can be associated with agony

@Gabrieldiassss

2 ай бұрын

There is no windows 9 either

The v sauce style: " or does it" and then the background soundtrack, gold just gold

When I had the Xr, the case I bought said Xr on sticker but under the sticker was another sticker that said iPhone 9.

The Vsource music is crazy 😂

Damn…can’t believe it’s been that long since iPhone 8+… Now we’re on iPhone 15..crazy how time flies.

I remember the days of the rumor mills for the X that persisted for months. What would the design be? What would the features be? Some let their imaginations run wild. I was a big fan of everythingapplepro at the time, and he referred to what became the X as the 8, and what became the 8 and 8 plus as the 7s and 7s Plus. Feels like a lifetime ago now

91Tech is the first channel I watch everyday. I appreciate your hard work 91

I loved the game theory reference at the end

The SE 2020 is the iPhone 9. they just called it the iPhone SE 2020

Basically the 2018 iPhone lineup was also testing of names for models because the Xs and Xs Max are the pros of 2018 while the XR is the base of the 2018, the next year the iPhone 11 was the replacement for the XR being the base model and the 11 pro replacing the XS and the 11 Pro Max replacing the XS Max. I guess they just didn’t want to call them the pros yet or didn’t think of it that early.

I love my iPhone 8 my Xr had the brightest green strip on the lcd that I could still see when I blinked

Samsungs s8 was a very cool phone and a big upgrade but iPhone X was the biggest advancement in iPhone ever and was truly different than everything else out at the time. There will never be anything that different and innovative ever again

The Xr is iPhone 9. That’s it.

@Manqoba._

Ай бұрын

yeah the Xr is faster than the 10 and it’s the 9😭😭

I always thought they skipped the nine because the 10 was so advanced that they wanted people to know it was so advanced that it even leaked over number nine.

the XR was a beast. my son had it for 5 years, only trading it in because it was $80 trade in plus a $320 promo, meaning if i didnt trade it up it wouldnt be worth anything at all. got him a 13 pro while the 14 was out so it was cheap and a good trade in value. XR screen was decent too.

i think the jump from s10 to s20 was to keep the number as the same year of its launch

You should read "After Steve" by Tripp Mickle. They basically tell you why there wasn't an iPhone 9 and why the 8 was released alongside the X.

I like to think like in some weird way that the iPhone SE 3 is the spiritual iPhone 9. It has some significant improvements over the 8 like 5G and a faster chip. of course this wouldn't make sense because the iPhone 10 didn't have 5G and the iPhone 15 chip but I like to think that if the iPhone 9 did exist, it would look like the 3rd gen SE. I don't know, just an interesting thought (:

“An iPhone theory” I loved that reference 😂🎉

Hay i see that AR tech, have you tried ar glasses with the new iPhone 15 yet

14 min of my life that i will never get back 😂

That nod to MatPat at the end after he left The Theorists made me emotional.

I assumed it was a similar reason that Windows went from 8 to 10. To avoid confusion on servers with Windows 95/98 which both start with 9.

The silver and space black on the iPhone X looks like the back of the first iPhone

13:15 that line caught me off guard 😂

Always a big fan! 🎅🏻🧑‍🎄🤶

Does it all really matter? 2017 was a bloody long time ago. Nearly all original iPhone X purchasers from that time have moved on to newer models. Some did not make it through the pandemic.

Don't forget the Quicktime 7 to X jump Apple performed way back when!

I often felt that Apple error in naming their iPhone device releases were fumbled between the years of 2011 through 2013 with the S’s & C’s. I always felt that the S models weren’t necessarily needed to name the same current model touting speed. In 2013 the iPhone 5 & the 5C, and 5S was totally not needed. Given that is my reasoning of why there was no iPhone 9 to rush the anniversary model X in 2017.

It's actually a pretty interesting topic

Love the Game Theory easter egg LMAO

I have my own naming: iPhone SE 2020 = iPhone 8s iPhone SE 2022 = iPhone 9

The iPhone Nine would have introduced the power button touch ID and ditch the home button and the Use Three was supposed to have the nine design

Hey, yeah you reading this. If you ever called the iPhone 10; "X".. You're not longer invited to birthday parties ever.

You mentioned Xs wasn’t a big deal but I upgraded to this and it’s my favourite ever iPhone. Maybe because I didn’t have the X, and the UI was polished by its release!

I thought it was because there was legacy code in software designed to check the version number for a 9 so it would know if it was running iPhone 95 or 98 . . /S

With the iPhone X they should have completely stopped the S models. Having that one last year with an S model was stupid.

@davonwoods9510

4 ай бұрын

Probably cause the iPhone 10 had malfunctions that’s y

I like how things turned out. X fits well as the 10 aniversary but because they released the Xs, now they will have to skip iphone 19 again because in 2027 iphone 19 is supposed to be iphone XX

I always liked the name iPhone Edition or iPhone 8 Edition like the old watches

The marketing team on the day forgot the I before the X and when it ran the guy pitching it was like “the iPhone X”. haha.

MatPat is QUAKING

Apple finally moved from macOS “X” to 11 and onwards beginning in 2020 - maybe because Microsoft was moving from Windows 10 to 11 then, too? Was it a marketing ploy? Was the release of the M1 chip finally enough to move macOS to version 11?

Samsung switched to match the calendar year.... S20 for 2020

@wahiduzzamansm6952

6 ай бұрын

Simple and highly effective naming... The current year is the current model.

I thought the samsung naming scheme was because of matching the year number - up to s10 in 2019, would be weird to go s11 in 2020 - so, s20. 2021- s21, 2022-s22, 2023- s24.

Now if only apple could fix iOS so that you can put icons and widgets anywhere on the homescreen.

@LukeTR2000

6 ай бұрын

I would only be ok with apple adding an option to turn off the grid layout. I prefer the grid layout and how the home screen works. It's one of the reasons I haven't jump to android (but is one reason I could ignore if apple continue to refuse changing the battery in my iPhone)

I have the iPhone 8 Plus and it still works like a champ he’s right the iPhone 8 was so underrated at the time

I just took the X as 9, XR as 10, XS as 10 Pro, and then came the 11 line. In this scenario, I also feel X being rushed out a year ahead also fits.

@vcall6121

5 ай бұрын

The X is far and away better than the xR so your theory means the 10 is a downgrade from the 9

@Connie_TinuityError

5 ай бұрын

@@vcall6121no it is worse, the X had a year older chip compared to the XR and as such could not support iOS 17

9 seems bad luck microsoft didnt release a windows 9 neither...

12:47 oh, i thought it was so the name and the year matched

The iPhone releases in 2016 and 2017 were the weirdest and the most confusing in my opinion, as neither the iPhone 7 and 8 had brought significant changes and improvements in their own right (besides the processor upgrade since regardless of form factor, Apple would develop a new processor every year), and as if the iPhone 7 and 8 could’ve been just one upgrade on its own in 2016 instead of spreading it out through 2 years. My theory suggests that on top of all the things mentioned in this video, Apple decided to release the iPhone 8 with pretty much the same form factor as the iPhone 7 perhaps because they were supposed to be one release but they might have not figured out the wireless charging in 2016. It would’ve made a lot more sense if they have combined wireless charging with the removal of the headphone jack for the iPhone 7 so it could be marketed as the “full wireless accessory iPhone”. Perhaps they were planning to release the iPhone X (or whatever they would’ve called the bezel-less/notch iPhone) in 2017 because it was the tenth anniversary of the iPhone and they had the opportunity of making it big, but because of the delay of wireless charging development they decided to leave it behind and made way for another small incremental upgrade before realizing their competitors were moving on faster than they had expected, so they had to quickly put the bezel-less iPhone back in development and release it along side with the 8.

And i saw this video 9 hours after release 😂 pure coincidence? I THINK NOT!

I've had this theory since I was about 9, but I think windows 8.1 was windows 9 in a way. Obviously it would have made more sense to either make a windows 9 or call windows 8.1 windows 9 but that windows 8.1 was technically the 9th windows since it was considered a major update. The iphone 9 makes less sense...

Agreed, Sir.

The iPhone X coming in only black and white could be a callback to the iPod classics(5th-7th gens) which only came in two colors (other than the occasional U2 color-ways)

Still running my 8 Plus. Needs a new battery & screen, I think I might get an XS Max.

I'd say the iPhone X had so few options because it was significantly more expensive than any other iPhone before. Maybe Apple was cautiously testing to see if people would be willing to spend 1.000$+ for an iPhone.

Anyone else think the iPhone 8 should've been called the 7S?

I'd like an iPhone iceberg

The regular gold iPhone X being in the FCC database and a scrapped advertisement:

@91Tech

6 ай бұрын

👀

Perfect channel to watch while eating.

na i think they just wanted to do their big change on the 10th anniversary tbh and they held off with the max version just so in 2018 people had a reason to upgrade from their iphone x + samsung did not just want to have a higher number lmao... they just wanted to make the number match the year...so 2020 = s20, 2021 s21 etc...

I wanted it to be like with Megaman, having an iPhone 9 and an iPhone X2 the next year the iPhone X released

Why is still there no iPhone 7S🤔

12:46 not really, it's to keep their naming consistent with the release date. S20 in 2020, S21 in 2021 and so on :P

@user-tv9xd1uo6l

5 ай бұрын

That’s what they WANT you to believe

I remember the SE 2nd gen was rumored to be the 9. Its chip and performance was higher than the 8 but the body was lesser than the X line.

I always felt like they just copy windows because windows didn't make a windows 9 they made windows 8 8.1 and wait straight to 10 unless Windows 8.1 technically was went to be 9

My aunt and uncle still use their iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 Plus to this day even though it got left behind on iOS 16, but they don’t care about stuff like that they’re cheap lol

Me and my aunt had a theory about the iPhone SE 2 being the iPhone 9

I searched this up on Google and made a video yesterday 💀

Samsung changed their naming scheme to match the years they were released. Galaxy S23 was released in 2023 etc

Fucking love this channel because as I’m listening I keep screaming. “I remember that!”

I can't help but notice that the music at 1:01 is the stuff Vsauce uses.