Consider this comment the official petition for Apple to bring back the 30-pin connector (I want to use my old docking station from 2010 again) Enjoy talking tech? Join the discord, hope to see you there! - discord.io/91tech

@91Tech

8 ай бұрын

@@Aperture2 if you watch the first couple minutes you'll see lol. 2:20

@mdmusic

8 ай бұрын

@@Aperture2Because of the early models of iPods that used it since 2003. iPhone 2g didn’t introduce it.

@Jacktheprosplatoonplayer

8 ай бұрын

@@91Techcould you Make a vid on the 2015 one port MacBook it had ssd failure keyboard failure it’s a good laptop I have one I like it

@Jacktheprosplatoonplayer

8 ай бұрын

@stefanoliveira8718 eBay/elite obsolete electronics/amazon eBay is the cheapest eoe provides good cables and has a usb c to 30 pin

@kreigerbailey3550

8 ай бұрын

Portland, JAMAICA in the Building!!!

I'll save yall some time, it's cause of the EU

@PaulValickas

8 ай бұрын

Eu asked and Apple updated port, no need to watch 23min video.

@maxonite

8 ай бұрын

@@PaulValickasIts almost like some people are interested in detailed information and not just tabloid headlines.

@polocatfan

8 ай бұрын

​@@maxonitethere's not really any needed info here. EU told them they had to change to type c or they wouldn't be allowed to sell there and they complied. this uploader is great, but he really didn't need to make a nearly 30 minute video on this.

@henrik19923

8 ай бұрын

​@@PaulValickasEU did not ask they made it so they had to.

@Weather_Nerd

8 ай бұрын

Ipad and macbook had em for years pretty sure they would’ve done it in time anyway…

I love how Apple justified not giving the brick with the 12 iPhone series by saying: ''we all have the bricks we can already use'' And yet, the ONLY people that had fast charging were 11 Pro owners and people that had to buy the brick separately. Thus the vast majority of people were still on, even ancient by then, 5W meme of a charger.

@mattbuffo9967

8 ай бұрын

and then samsung followed by removing the brick the year after coincidence?

@agoodname7089

8 ай бұрын

@@mattbuffo9967 just because samsung doesn’t include it anymore doesn’t make it any less of a cash grab from apple, samsung, and any other company removing the brick

@lacosta0892

8 ай бұрын

@@agoodname7089thank you! I’m tired of hearing people defend either company for it, when it’s just as scummy for Samsung to do it as Apple

@closeben

8 ай бұрын

Apple doesn’t want people using fast charging because it degrades the battery faster overtime.

@benjason_94

8 ай бұрын

ive been using a 5W my entire life since I was a kid with my original ipad mini in 2012. I probably will use a 5W for at least 5 more years of life mainly because when I upgraded my iphone to a 13 there was no cable that came with it. Yuh

Came into this video wanting to know the history of how we went from the 30-pin to USB-C and ended up watching your most critical video about Apple on your channel to date. Plenty of big tech KZreadrs wouldn’t dare to make a video criticizing Apple (unless you’re Linus whose audience aren’t going to buy a Mac or Apple products in the first place). Maybe you could team up with Zackary Smigel regarding Apple & their business practices.

@designersunlockedu1888

8 ай бұрын

So true, never expected him to criticize Apple this much

@realwiggles

8 ай бұрын

Oh yeah, no one ever criticizes Apple. It’s definitely not a tired trope for tech KZreadrs to rant about apple in any video that features them or their products and mentioning how much better everything else is while they furiously jerk themselves off until they close their eyes and have an explosive 45 second orgasm as images of headphone jacks fill their minds. Afterwards, they get a call from Linus who, after spending 2-3 minutes of him berating his employees and being patronizing in general, congratulated them on the orgasm and mentions that he hasn’t seen ropes that long and thick since unbox therapy bent an iPhone with his bare hands. But yeah, I 100% agree which is why I make sure to always like this exact same type of comment that’s always at or near the top of the comment section under any video that says something negative about Apple.

@yashuady7803

8 ай бұрын

Plenty of reviewers criticize Apple and plenty of Linus's viewers use Apple products.

I liked Lightning at the time. It felt like a port for the future: fast (at the time), reversible plug, and a secure and tactile fit without the meat hooks USB Micro B had. USB-C just outpaces Lightning at every turn now, aside from the tactile fit which still feels really nice.

@agoogleuser2507

8 ай бұрын

Sorry bro. The only reason why Apple was shoving that lightening port down your throat is because they have a patent for it. No one else can sell it unless they fork over a ton of money to Apple. Apple's getting money out of you one way or another.

@timotheatae

8 ай бұрын

USB C actually has almost the exact same physical latch as Lightning, only it's inside the connector! Lightning was a weird and strangely long-lived connector. But it ultimately influenced USB C. While it wasn't particularly practical, it was definitely very pretty, with no holes, no sticky out bits in the phone. The plug is a solid piece of metal and the port is just a hole.

@agoogleuser2507

8 ай бұрын

@@timotheatae Well did you know that the USB-C, Ligjtening and Micro-USB chargers all have a cable?

@timotheatae

8 ай бұрын

@@agoogleuser2507 ...not all of them.

@REDnBLACKnRED

8 ай бұрын

@@agoogleuser2507 Why so salty? The guy was talking about lightning when it was released, which indeed was significantly better than anything else out there and also influenced many aspects of USB-C.

3:40 what shocked me the most was that there was a battery pack for the iPod that used 4 AA batteries. How did I miss out on that accessory?!?! 😱

@corey7219

8 ай бұрын

I never knew it existed

You forgot the fact that lightning actually did support usb3 (5Gbit). When the 2017 iPad pro came out it had lightning but it did connect at 5Gbit. This was with a stock lightning cable. It was however the only device that did support 5Gbit over lightning that I know of. The way you could tell hardwarevice was that when you looked into the female lightning connector on the iPad you would see connection strips on both sides of the plug. All other devices had only connection strips on one side.

@kylemsguy_

8 ай бұрын

It was kind of a hack, though. The original spec only used the pins on one side of the cable, and they never released a lightning to USB 3.0 cable (the lightning to USB-C cables were USB 2.0 only). The only way you could connect USB 3.0 stuff to those iPad Pros was via lightning accessories, and they used both sides of the cable. Even so, they also limited the power that they could output from that port, down to 5V 40mA. The USB 3.0 camera adapter had you connect a lightning cable for extra power, which was super annoying. If you had the USB 2.0 adapter you were SOL unless you had a device that happened to work with the low power budget (or used an unpowered USB hub to trick the phone/tablet into giving a bit more power)

I think apple learned their lesson from the first port transition. As you mentioned, apple introduced lightning as an entirely new connector that no one had at the time. Their old accessories and chargers wouldn’t work. With usb-c, apple rolled that in with the MacBook Air (2015), which did not make up a major portion of their sales. Manufacturers started making usb c accessories and then the industry followed suit on phones/accessories. Now the pain point is that apple should have transitioned the iPhone port a few years ago, rather than users complaining that they didn’t have usbc cords to use with their phones. Everything new has usb c, so users are integrating with an existing environment.

@agoodname7089

8 ай бұрын

The 2018 iPhone XS was probably about the right time for a USB C iPhone

@Ni5ei

8 ай бұрын

When lightning was introduced, old chargers still worked fine. The charging cable only changed on the iPhone side while the charger still had a regular USB type A socket.

@Nikioko

8 ай бұрын

@@Ni5ei And so do they now. You simply use the USB-C to USB-A cable you already have to charge your new phone with your old charger.

@agoogleuser2507

8 ай бұрын

I don't think they did. If someone was forced to do something, do you really consider it them "learning their lesson"?

@sparksfly13

8 ай бұрын

hate to correct you, but the MacBook from 2015 wasn't the Air, but a newer iteration of the standard MacBook. the Air didn't get USB-C support until the 2018 revision, as the previous one still had the original 2010 design with MagSafe

Great video! Love these types of videos, and music as always slaps!

Honestly, this swap is a great thing. I just think it would make more sense to have faster USB C on the standard model and thunderbolt on the pro

I’ll never forget the iPad 3rd gen to 4th gen update. I had JUST bought a 3rd gen literally 3 weeks before they announced the 4. I. Was. Pissed.

@0w3nn

8 ай бұрын

R. I. P.

@kylemsguy_

8 ай бұрын

RIP, literally the worst timing possible

USB-C is looking very promising for a universal data/charging platform. It can stream high resolution movies to a home theater, it can store massive amounts of data in a small thumb drive, it can power an entire extension hub with every port in use, and so on.

@imguestie

5 ай бұрын

USB-C in my opinion is a poor choice to be the unverisal port on technology devices

@rohithreddy75

21 күн бұрын

@@imguestie Why?

Thank you so much 😊

I will save some time and say Apple changed the port not because USB-C is superior in sturdiness, is compatible with most modern ports today, or because you can have USB 3 and even thunderbolt transfer speeds (which for some reason Apple decided even with these MUCH faster speeds available with the USB-C technology, they would stick with ANCIENT USB 2.0 speeds). Apple changed the port because the EU essentially told them to do it or don't sell your phones in the EU. Changing the port had nothing to do with improving the phone for the end consumer. Lightning is SLOW, tends to break easily, and is proprietary. Apple would still be using an inferior port if they could because they make a lot of money selling proprietary lightning accessories.

@framedthunder6436

8 ай бұрын

Lighting was able to do usb 3.0 speed, the 2017 I pad pro lighting was 3.0

@silvy7394

8 ай бұрын

If Apple moved to USB-C via their own will they would of put a USB-3 controller in their A16 so the customers wouldnt be screwed when they moved over. But they didnt because they didnt anticipate moving to C.

@silvy7394

8 ай бұрын

@@framedthunder6436 Thats not true USB-3 or compliant with the standard. Lightning is 8 pins, where USB 3 is 9 pins. Official USB 3 support is not possible on lightning, and thats why they never tried to implement it. The iPad needed an adapter to support "USB 3", which only supported specific apple devices. It didnt do USB 3 on anything else, because it cant.

@0w3nn

8 ай бұрын

USB-c is superior in sturdiness? In your dreams

@0w3nn

8 ай бұрын

Argue with me if you can, but I think that between a solid piece of metal and metal with a hollow inside, I know which one is stronger.

great commentary 🙏

Great and informative and retro video and interesting output, Josh. And hope that Cola is well and dandy xx. 🇬🇧

I think it’s a combination of your voice, tone, inflection, well researched videos and text that make me love your long form videos. Please keep them coming!!

Good opinions thanks again

You got my like :)

Watching this while setting up my New iphone 15 Pro max. Well done!

Remember Apple was part of the team that designed USB C

@LoganT547

8 ай бұрын

You would've thought when they switched all of their laptops and iPads to USB-C that they would be desperate to put it on the iPhone

Liked and commented to maybe help the KZread algorithm a bit more. Nice video and some good points about Apple!

Great video

let’s be real the 15 really feels like a (s) version besides the usb c and it’s really reminding me when the iphone 6s got released better camera same design more durable material

I still have a FireWire Dock Connector from the iPod Mini my parents bought the year I was born (04). Haven’t used it, because that mini died when I was like 3, but the USB dock connector is still in my life for my older nostalgia devices. I remember the lightning switch, and finally getting a lightning enabled iPad, it really was cool for some reason.

Fun fact: apple originally planned to have type c for the iPhone 5 and they supported development but because it took them too long to develop type c apple decided to make their own cable to meet the deadlines for iPhone 5 launch

About time!

I hate how many lightning cables slowly fail over time, whereas I've never had a microUSB or USB-C fail. Lightning just sucked.

@user-ue9sz5rj9w

8 ай бұрын

Lightning 4-7 year

@username7763

6 ай бұрын

Was it the connector or the cable? If it was the cable it could be the silicone insulation on the cable that Apple uses and not the connector itself. USB cables usually are PVC which is quite durable.

iPhone 5 was my first iPhone. I was always a blackberry before. Since sept 2012 I have gotten the newest iPhone on launch day. What a ride it’s been with iPhone

Good vid.

While this change will cause some headache right now, this is just a short term inconvenience. We’ll be way better off in the long run with this change.

@SidTheGamer0

8 ай бұрын

No headache even for apple users, everything else apple makes already had USB-C for like half a decade

@Xanatos0504

8 ай бұрын

@@SidTheGamer0 only reason they made the change, they were forced to make the change. I am pretty sure they would have liked to keep it around to gouge people in buying their overpriced cables.

@SidTheGamer0

8 ай бұрын

@hungryhungryagro if they were that arrogant they might've done the portless one, but I don't know how'd they sell that to pro-sumers especially with them advertising the 4k 60 fps pro-res

So basically The EU forced Apple to switch to USB-C and people don’t like it

My mom was actually very excited when I told my mom about the iphone 15 had usb c. Unfortunately she doesn't buy phones, she usually just get cheap phones from people who give them away when they upgrade, in fact, the newest phone she has ever had was the iphone x (before it was an old iphone, I'm pretty sure it was on ios 12). Personally I'm an android user, but the only phones I've had were the galaxy s7, and the pixel 6a. When I got my 6a, I had to get a churching block as well as an audio adapter because it was the first device that anyone in my family has had that requires a good cord, not a cheap usb c cord, although I have no idea if it was the block or the cord, because I could charge it with my portable battery with my cheap usb c cord, or with my computer.

Hey really good content not the boring here's the iPhone 15 review nauseam... Anyway enjoyed it

When the EU says that USB-C has to be the charging port of devices, then all companies operating inside the EU Single Market have to abide by that

I’ve been waiting to upgrade. There’s been features that I’ve wanted but I told myself I’m waiting until iPhone get USB-C now I can keep the iPhone 15 for years to come. I can’t wait for it to arrive.

Eh, it’s not a dangerous precedence to let governments say use a common standard and make your products more repairable. It’s protecting the customer, which corporations absolutely will not do. Now if governments took complete control of corporations I’d have something against that. Corporations needs checks and balances, otherwise they will screw us all over.

@DarkZerol

8 ай бұрын

Exactly. You can never expect corporations to self-regulate despite how much said corporations said they would. Corporations exists for profits not charity work. They are not your BFF and never was.

@oliviamoore3426

8 ай бұрын

@@DarkZerol exactly, that’s why it’s good for governments to regulate corporations, we’ve seen time and time again how corporations will dump toxic waste, which then seeps into the ground water, this poisoning people. Corporations will get away with murder if they can, therefore regulation is important.

@thebravegallade731

Ай бұрын

Depends. Imagine if the EU standerdized on USB A and micro B... C would have takes SOOO much longer to take off.

“consume content” That sentence grind my gears to no end

Great video! The never ending iPhone port saga...

well, Apple did say during the keynote that the lightning will last for one decade. So, wish fulfilled....

No one from Apple would ever say this is the most requested feature of all Apple doesn’t take into consideration other peoples wants and needs for the devices only what they need and development and software

Great video, I think the iphone 15 lineup is good, however, I currently am using an iphone 14 Promax & plan on keeping it for at least another year. I'm looking forward to the 16 series.

I just hope that the EU forces Apple to start including the charging bricks in the next iPhone models.

He’s right I was recommended from a friend I didn’t find this on its own

The iPad 3 was the very first iPad I bought. 5 years later got the iPad Pro 9.7 inch. 5 years later again, got the iPad 9th gen and that’s where I am today! Love what I have right now until I’m ready for another one!

Recieved my 15 pro 3 days ago, after 6 years with the iPhone X. The only downside of USB-C, compared to Lightning, is that i have the feeling that it doesn't feel as "snappy" when plugging the connector into the port. it's not as tactile. it's nice that you don't have to find someone with an iPhone if you want to give your phone a quick charge, though. everything else i've been doing wirelessly for years now.

Love the video 💜 but please keep your breathing spaces in when editing your next video. It will make for a much less tiring and more comprehensible story. Imaginemetypingthiswithoutspaces.

These are the type of videos I want to see, so little of people will call Apple out on there BS!

21:58 what did you do to the odyssey cover art 😭😭

The difference is that lighting was a new and proprietary cable. Usb-c is a more common and open cable. So there will be no big backlash.

cool video bro lol

@91Tech

8 ай бұрын

thanks bro lol

@ObjectShowStudio

8 ай бұрын

ok lol

Love your videos dude ✌️

In the future they’ll remove Bluetooth and come up with a new wireless solution in order to play hi res lossless audio.

I still use an iPhone 6s. I recently had the screen repaired and I am not upgrading until it breaks. I hope lightning cables stay easily available if I need a new one

I remember the time i upgraded to iOS 7 on the Iphone 4s. Man that slowed it down.

This is in no way defending Apple, but the reason the 15 and 15 Plus have USB 2.0 because they used the A16 Bionic from last year which does not have the controller on the chip. This is why the 16 and 16 Plus will have it next year.

@CT-vm4gf

2 ай бұрын

What’s wrong with defending Apple? It’s ok, you’re allowed to.

Did I just hear you say “cahveats” for caveats lol😂

my mum bought the ipad 3 in july 2012 kept going until 2018 or so served us very well considering we had it updated all the way to ios 9

The big difference this time is that a ton of people already have usb c cords. No one had any lightning cords for other devices.

Always a good run down on  thingzzz

Exactly why I liked the lightning and not the usb c. Because it waa cool when iPhone introduced to us this reversible charging port. But 2 years later, USB C came out, meh felt like it's just copying lightning

My only gripe about usb is that the female connector is physically more easy to damage than lightning was, a foreign inserted in the port can easily damage it. while it was possible with lightning it was harder to do.

30 pin is actually faster then lightning, if it’s used over fire wire

I hear you on the loss of the headphone jack but I always wondered if Apple's consumer research accounted for people like me. For at least a couple of years before they removed the headphone jack I had been using bluetooth. I don't think I ever plugged anything into my iPhone 5S or 6S in the entire time I owned them. Dumping the headphone jack and releasing AirPods just gave me better bluetooth headphones but didn't materially change my experience otherwise. I've always hated wires and use wireless gaming headphones on my PC to this day.

I can’t wait for usb d

I am just waiting for someone with watt currency meter doing comparison non-apple usb-c charger vs apple usb-c charger... also teardown of their cable if there is MFi chip inside ALSO I am currious if they will sell re-edition of SE,13,14 (budget) with usb-c

I've had to replace my iPad 5 times because using non-Apple USB-C to-USB C cables cauaes the device firmware to recognize non-Apple cables and then, over time, the device stops charging.

But on the plus side to this is that the iPhone 15 users will now have a much more easier way of getting Type-C cables. Due to the fact that type-C has been around for at least 6 years now and Android phones are one of the leading devices to use them. So now when you go over to the charging cable section at your local supermarket you don't need to really look hard enough to find the right cable. Even then you might already have some lying around the house since you already have some other USB-C devices. At this point USB-C is now really becoming the default standard and is also slowly replacing the oldest Type-A.

This video deserves more circulation, imo.

@91Tech, how old were you in 2003? Just wondering lol

We're privileged to have a usb-c cable in the box, rejoice!

@Nikioko

8 ай бұрын

So, if you didn't have plenty of them already, you get just another one.

@DanielPereira-ey9nt

8 ай бұрын

​@@Nikiokoand they pretty worthlessly slow one for the matter

Although USB C is definitely an improvement. I’ve found that it’s slightly more annoying to plug the phone in especially at night because you have to be more precise and straight on. With the lightning cable you could just kinda shove it in at any angle and it would line itself up because of the rounded corners and the contacts being on the outside and not the inside

@portman8909

5 ай бұрын

Couldn’t you solve it by not charging overnight and picking up a 30 watt charger? It won’t take long once you’re done cooking or gardening it’s already near full charge.

E.U. The only reason... There was no reason to stick to Lightning from a technical standpoint since 2015... USB-C is better in every sense technically speaking. Only Apple benefits from Lightning since its proprietary and they can charge licensing to anyone who uses it.

I phone is like going back in time!

I still have an 8 Plus, and I’m still pretty happy with it. I don’t need 4 cameras, I like my home button and it’s still fast. I don’t use lightning to charge, I charge wirelessly, but I do use the lightning adapter for headphones.

@Blackadder75

6 ай бұрын

I wish more people were like you instead of those fools who buy the new phone every year , wasting thousands of dollars and the planet, just to impress the neighbour.

@thatoneuser5066

4 ай бұрын

@@Blackadder75 Pretty sure that is most people these days, I don't personally know anyone who gets a new one every year, or even every two years.

I had to get a separate charging block to charge my current phone because it made all of mine useless, but didn’t have to do it for my iPad. 🙃

Well. I have 3 different bricks. one from iPhone 7, one from iPad mini4, with USB A. one I bought yesterday, 20W thing with USB C.

Thunderbolt Lightning cable on IPad 10.9 inch pro

i loved my ipad retina. but i still was on my iphone 4 so to me it made sense to buy it and i didn’t go to the iphone 5, i went to the galaxy s3. I also pre-ordered the ipad retina, so i had it day 1

So cool 1:21

I’m watching this October 19

My issue with the usb-c is the durability over time. I just bought the iPhone 14 Pro Max one terabyte back in September.

@Xanatos0504

8 ай бұрын

from reviews, they are using a braided cable which is usually thicker and less prone to damage. the plug itself is stupidly easy not to screw it up, where as lightning ports are easily bendable if you accidentally plug it on the wrong side. Also I am sure you have usbc cables lying around. No need to overspend for a proprietary lightning cable.

@jacoby1234ification

8 ай бұрын

@@Xanatos0504 that is one of the issues that’s easy fixable but my issue is the connection inside. The phone has a tendency over time to break off and wear out and at that point you’re looking at a new phone. And yes, you can use a USB-C on both sides just as a lightning table.

@HuyNguyen-ll9gz

8 ай бұрын

@@jacoby1234ificationMore than 3 years with my iPhone 11 and no breakage. You are not taking care of your phone very well then

@katrinabryce

8 ай бұрын

@@jacoby1234ification The one benefit of USB-C over lighting is not only can use it on both sides, you can also use it on both ends.

@MrManniG

8 ай бұрын

​@@jacoby1234ificationusbC is more durable than you might think. I'm still using a Samsung Galaxy Note 8 which was the first of the Note series to support usbC and that connection still works flawlessly. The only thing is you have to clean the port from time to time.

I do use a Apple changed . But I love hearing about them.

i currently have the 2012 charging port

I still have a 30-pin cable and an iPod it connects to. Also, Apple still lets me use both with iTunes

Do you iPhone 8 IP 68 dust and water resistant

people get surprised when i charge my phone with my "laptop cable"

10:21 Damn, I haven't seen bezels that thicc for a long time

What name music 1:11

Why does the Thumbnail on the left say 2003 when the iPhone Released in 2007?

Let's not forget that "the new iPad" (iPad 3rd gen) was the reason the ipad 2 didn't get the fancy blur UI effects because the higher resolution meant "the new iPad" had to process 4 times as many pixels, but the jump in processing power wasn't enough for a good experience, thus they never included the real time effect on both the iPad 2 and "the new iPad" Btw, the first iPad mini has the A5X, just like the iPad 2, but it did come with those effects working perfectly fine. You could also jailbreak your iPad 2 to unofficially activate it and it worked fine too

I love usb addition to iPhones because I hated lightning cables they always broke way to easily and not many of us in my family had iPhones so it always felt I was the odd one out

I don’t think Steve Jobs would take to kindly for the USBC port on the iPhone but I love usbc on my iPhone 15 bc I can reverse charge usbc things with my iPhone

I remember the first one Because iPhone 4 was my first iPhone

lol the 2023 one isn’t even a brand new cable you could probably use a usb-c cable that is used for a android for the new iPhones!

Technically we can't say that the iPhone charging plug was around in 2003 because the IPhone wasn't released until 2007. However, a better title for the video might be "The History of the Apple charging port/cable". The reason I say this is because the cover graphic is sort of "wrong" in that the iPHone did not exist in 2003.

Next: USB-D Port charging cable

Does anyone know remember how hard the 30 pin connector was to clean? My charger would never fully go in

Lightning was wayyyyyyyy better than usb micro And to be honest it's not much worse than usb C,,,,.

@daneberryman

8 ай бұрын

Physically, it’s better than USB c but the fact that usbc is universal makes it the right choice

Apple finally stoped trying to do soo damn unique and actually put a usb type c port :) Nice