I just can't understand why there aren't 500,000 subscribers to this podcast....

My great great grandfather, James Wood Second Class Steward died on the Titanic. Although we know something of his life prior to joining the White Star Line, these episodes have been fascinating in setting the scene for his final days and hours.

OK, this is getting good. Finally we have a historian brave enough to stand up for the iceberg!

I can't believe how little discussion there is about the middle classes aboard the Titanic, good job guys!

@andybud1983

2 ай бұрын

Ah shut up. Always some miserable bastard complaining about everything.

@kevinkevin-ug9po

2 ай бұрын

There are plenty of discussions on 2nd class, books like on a sea of glass or minute by minute have information. Lawrence Beesley was 2nd class and his discussions are well documented.

Awesome!! I love this story telling and history lesson, its fantastic, thank you Gentlemen brilliant channel 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

Very informative and enjoyable. Thanks to you both!

In Japan I saw and heard the large melodion (a mechanical music playing machine that could play many different elaborate compositions in a music box fashion) that was due to be installed on the Titanic when it arrived in New York.

Fascinating series....and quite depressing hearing about all those who lost their lives.

I love your podcasts, but can I make the point that 'steerage' as such did not exist on Titanic. By 1912 third class was called precisely that and where ships carried passengers 'steerage' that was effectively '4th class'. Steerage passengers essentially paid for the crossing. No food or other provisions would be provided - although I am aware that 4th class existed on the German Imperator class. Third class passengers, as you have previously alluded, were actually well-treated on Titanic, as they were on all the major immigrant carriers, in large part due to the increasingly strict rules for entry into the USA - unfit or unwell passengers would be denied entry and the responsibility for transporting rejected passengers back to Europe would fall at the expense of the shipping company that brought them.

You guys are just awesome 😂😂😂😂❤❤❤❤😂😂😂😂

Neither the paupers in Third nor the plutocrats in First, but the solid, respectable middle class in Second. Dominic, don't you write for the Daily Mail?

Michel Marcel Navratil did not die in the1980's he died on the 30th January 2001 aged 92. William Alfred Gaskell was born in the second quarter of 1893 (almost certainly in April) and he died on the 15th April 1912. He was baptised in St James Church, Toxteth on 3 May 1893. So he was not aged 16 he was aged 19 (give or take a few days).at his death. Looking at my family history I discovered that the First Officer of the Titanic (Henry Tingle Wilde) was my maternal grandmother's 1st cousin. I came across a photograph of a lady from Liverpool (it says aged 50 on the back of the photo) and I thought about throwing it away because I did not know of any family in Liverpool, but fortunately I didn't because I now realise that it is a photo of my great-grandmothers sister, mother of Henry Tingle Wilde. I also recall I have photos of him as a child. The photographs are from Liverpool because his father Henry Wilde moved to Liverpool to work in maritime insurance.

STATTO! Good to see you back, mate.

Though there were no Indians on boards, there were two India-born passengers on board. One was Henry Ryland Dyer, Senior Assistant Fourth Engineer, born in Jhansi in 1887, and the other was 12-year old Ruth Elizabeth Becker. Like all the other Engineers on board the Titanic, Henry went down with the ship and his body was never found, but Ruth Becker survived, along with her mother and two younger brothers. Another passenger who lived in India at the time was Mary Dunbar Hewlett, who survived the sinking and returned to India. She died at Nainital in 1917. Annie Funk was sent to India as the first female Mennonite missionary in December 1906. In 1907 she opened a one-room school for girls in Janjgir in Chhatisgarh and learnt Hindi. Though she had the opportunity, she didnt board the lifeboats. In her memory, her school in India is called the Annie Funk Memorial School.

Front-facing Dominic at the beginning of this episode is something uncanny and terrifying. Well done!

Having got to know a number of former White Star crew, retired and settled in New Zealand and Australia, I find it hard to understand how White Star avoided bankruptcy!

I totally agree Tom, ‘ripping’ is due a revival 👏🏽

Ocean liners Design videos are excellent

I love a good class based podcast.

One every day...

Well done, Dominic! Seems you missed your calling on the Great White Way!

Rose at the top, Jack at the bottom.

@jodij2366

2 ай бұрын

As it should be!

I think Cunard took over White Star in the end, so you may ask them for recompense for all the plugs you are giving them Dominic!!

I'm here to represent/back the iceberg community 😊

As I'm watching this I decided to click the BBC web-site ,and in the news there's an article about a titanic watch selling for 900k....so uncanny! :)

My best friend in prep school was a Big Underware heir. Lot's of intrigue and debauchery.

The first syllable of Widener name is pronounced to rhyme with “side”, not “mid”.

Aside from that .rs Lincon, how was the play?

the civil servant, hosono, is the grandfather of one of the greats of modern japanese pop music, haruomi hosono. fun bit of trivia for you.

Dominic's eagerness to distance himself from the plausibility of the conspiracy theory is also an indication of his being middle class. His betters would never sacrifice the lives of so many people for mere power and money, that's absurd!

@baarbacoa

2 ай бұрын

He's obviously conspiring with elites to conceal conspiracies created by elites to conceal conspiracies about elites.

@tulyar57

2 ай бұрын

WTF?

@jbsweeney1077

2 ай бұрын

@@tulyar57 Conspiracy theories are low-status. Middle class people don't have enough status to spare to risk engaging with them.

@tulyar57

2 ай бұрын

@@jbsweeney1077There was no plausibility, that is the point. Morgan spends millions to arrange a catastrophe (killing thousands) in order for his victim to simply climb into a lifeboat? I think you've been watching too many Marvel movies. Dominic and Tom are historians, not fantasists. I think you are watching the wrong channel.

@jimb9063

2 ай бұрын

@@tulyar57 It's exactly what I'd do if I was a Bond Villain. Why shoot someone in the head when you can rely on several unlikely circumstances coming together, and several ways of escape built in which you can't control? I'd also want more credit for getting the iceberg in the right place too. Nobody mentions that, and that was the most difficult part!

One other rather notable family that didn't make the ship due to change of plans was the DuPonts. They decided to extend their stay, but shipped a large load of luggage along with a recently engaged footman. He got put up in 2nd class, with little to do till the ship docked, and a much higher wage awaiting him (in New York or the Carolina mountains, smae rate wither way). He must have thought he was living right, until the ship hit the berg.. He rates a small display at one of the small museums on the Biltmore Estate, and a note that he did not survive the sinking.

Enquiring minds want to know ... with all that coal ... what was the CO2 footprint of this monster I wonder?

@jimb9063

2 ай бұрын

Probably not great. Not long until fuel oil replaced coal though, so it all turned out happily ever after!

It’s disgraceful that this elitist programme fails to cover the iceberg. What happened to balance in recording history?

Bob Dylans epic song about the Titanic

Today's Tech billionaires would bring along their own private lifeboats

salute the iceberg

He doesnt look as bald with the new angke, great going

So, other than that Ms. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?

My understanding is that Jenny (the ships cat) remained behind in Southampton.

That iceberg is not guilty

I have always been of the opinion that one must have a “ big entourage” to accommodate a French mistress . Post script . My first job in Liverpool was at Albion house in James street as a junior clerk for white star . Therefore by the grace of the iceberg go I …..

9.55 Here we go - how do these guys see the Double Ship theory... Might be interesting, depending on what they say I will check out their version of JFK assassination...

@jonathonjubb6626

2 ай бұрын

Not even close to the REAL conspiracy theory...

Did I miss Molly Brown?

Hahaha that ending xD Someone's gotta stand up for the marginalized and castigated iceberg community!

I'm learning so much, I wish I was on the Titanic 😢

@benjaminblakemore9704

2 ай бұрын

No bro

Of all the mystique and mystery surrounding the disaster, the bottom line is that she struck an iceberg and sank. Everything else is circumstantial. No different than Oswald pulling off three shots in Dallas. In both cases, there are tons of circumstantial accusations and evidence that's doesn't connect. Thanks ever much

You say many try to suggest it's all about class . Nudge nudge wink wink . Shameless protection of scandal. History revisionists. Talented waste of time.

I will call you in 15. Sounds yummy Am getting some pots at home depot. Talk in a few

I keep thinking you guys are smart but then you go ahead and do stuff like pronounce Haiti as Haiti instead of Haytee. Sheesh😂

Message to the 2 fake historians I'm unsubscribing I just saw the biased video about Putin and noticed the comments were turned off ? your viewers are not stupid we're not into fake history.

The Titanic hit the iceberg. That chunk of ice was the victim.