The men speak: What it's REALLY like being a husband

The men are back! Today they tell us about their actual marriage experience... from a guy's perspective!
You can follow the guys on Instagram on
Shiv - / shivsimani
Bien - / bienaimesol
Bright - / brightgameli

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  • @Unknown-tu7wv
    @Unknown-tu7wv2 жыл бұрын

    THERE IS BEAUTY IN HOW JULES UNDERSTANDS MARRIAGE WITH SUCH DEEP WISDOM. GOD is surely listening to her!!!!

  • @LAO965

    @LAO965

    2 жыл бұрын

    Jules has wisdom when she talks

  • @ken4722

    @ken4722

    2 жыл бұрын

    I like her perspectives a lot. And she is very eloquent. I admire that quality in people.

  • @mercykeli

    @mercykeli

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree. She carries a lot of wisdom, she speaks with authority and power that is not harmful but quite homely and friendly. I can listen to her all day.

  • @realvictoria_

    @realvictoria_

    2 жыл бұрын

    I must say you guys look good🥰

  • @tommymutua5863

    @tommymutua5863

    2 жыл бұрын

    Loving this content,could you do another one discusing black tax with the men too this would be excellent.

  • @zio-21
    @zio-212 жыл бұрын

    Bien, literally speaking pure facts. Your happiness should never be tied to your partner.

  • @wanjirukarago9308

    @wanjirukarago9308

    2 жыл бұрын

    💯✅

  • @EstherSserwangaMagati

    @EstherSserwangaMagati

    2 жыл бұрын

    Very true. One should never be a slave to their relationship or marriage. I like his view point on this.

  • @siloalapei2448

    @siloalapei2448

    2 жыл бұрын

    He actually needs his own channel. At some point it felt like he had to downplay himself just to fit in

  • @kristinekigundu8508

    @kristinekigundu8508

    2 жыл бұрын

    That is what will smith said, then pap, open relationship

  • @nancymarende1003
    @nancymarende10032 жыл бұрын

    I think it is important for couples to discuss bills, parenting styles, credit, debt, religion, how to deal with family, what beliefs will be instilled in the children, childhood traumas, sexual expectations, family health history, mental health history, bucket list, dream home, careers and education, political views and whatever else comes to mind before marriage. Love alone is not enough.

  • @kijana2030

    @kijana2030

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm for arranging marriages where decisions are not based on emotions but on the list you've posted above.

  • @danielswarovski6462

    @danielswarovski6462

    2 жыл бұрын

    💯 ! And this is why therapy is so important

  • @EvakarenMuriithi

    @EvakarenMuriithi

    2 жыл бұрын

    💯💯

  • @katematolo3682
    @katematolo36822 жыл бұрын

    May ALL the episodes with the guys be an hour long, we don't mind!! What a lovely episode, good job!!

  • @sabilavivian24

    @sabilavivian24

    2 жыл бұрын

    Amen!!

  • @algorfernand2483

    @algorfernand2483

    2 жыл бұрын

    Second this!

  • @ruthmwihaki6089

    @ruthmwihaki6089

    2 жыл бұрын

    I 👍

  • @gloriamaritim1498

    @gloriamaritim1498

    2 жыл бұрын

    Jule's dad is like mine. I always remember how he would take us through our homework and actually helping us read stories

  • @justnio2361

    @justnio2361

    2 жыл бұрын

    💯

  • @kijana2030
    @kijana20302 жыл бұрын

    I think Julia nailed it at the end. The objective is to bring men and women together in a cohesive manner. However, speaking to Ivy and Shivs discussion on invisible roles and competition, it's incumbent on both sexes to appreciate what they each bring to the table. No role is more important than the other, as the whole is greater than the sum of the parts.

  • @yourstrulyKe

    @yourstrulyKe

    2 жыл бұрын

    The whole is greater than the sum of the parts!💯

  • @carencheptoo7834
    @carencheptoo78342 жыл бұрын

    Bien's level of openness is on another level. He is so truthful and I just love that. Over 25 is the place to go to when you want to be part of authentic conversations.

  • @gknyambura
    @gknyambura2 жыл бұрын

    Dear Bien, My heart is full because of your fresh and honest way of viewing relationships. Thank you for blessing my evening.

  • @dourweenmumbe887

    @dourweenmumbe887

    2 жыл бұрын

    I completely agree!!!!!

  • @salomemutindi5757
    @salomemutindi57572 жыл бұрын

    It's the way shiv looks at shikkie when explaining about the finances! Love love love

  • @petermureu8346
    @petermureu83462 жыл бұрын

    Glad to have watched this session and bringing in dudes to share also from their perspective. I would suggest a session on The men speak: Pregnancy journey. I'd like to be part of that discussion though I'm based outside +254. I host 'diaper' parties for men based on my experience living away from home with no family and getting through that journey wasn't easy. I carry out diaper parties to allow any upcoming father to come and share his expectations and we (other young fathers) listen and share views from our experience. Continue the great work.

  • @kenyannjambi7276

    @kenyannjambi7276

    2 жыл бұрын

    I AM HERE FOR THIS. 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

  • @linetnkatha8536

    @linetnkatha8536

    2 жыл бұрын

    yes to this! Having kids in the diaspora with no family support is a struggle.

  • @hopeclyvine4569

    @hopeclyvine4569

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm here for it

  • @hadassahmwangi5088

    @hadassahmwangi5088

    2 жыл бұрын

    🔥🔥yessss

  • @yourstrulyKe
    @yourstrulyKe2 жыл бұрын

    To be in the kind of marriage that Bien is speaking about, you have to have a Very strong relationship. WUEH! It's admirable but the practicability is hard!

  • @peacemutua1892

    @peacemutua1892

    2 жыл бұрын

    So true This is way too liberal... needs strength And maturity and a whole lot of trust💯💯

  • @wangari6509

    @wangari6509

    2 жыл бұрын

    My exact sentiment,takes two very mature people to have such a view on marriage and still make it work

  • @muthonimuitha7756

    @muthonimuitha7756

    2 жыл бұрын

    I thought so too and thought why not divorc, because if you were to act on your feelings coz someone is hot and you feel attracted I believe it will happen more than thrice ,my question is there limitations is such arrangements and are both parties aware of what they are signing up for or when it happens you realise it's not what I thought it would be...,

  • @McElitsome
    @McElitsome2 жыл бұрын

    Wow, I am 22 and as a guy whose father passed on when I was younger. This is teaching me a lot. You guys keep it real as you have been. I'm learning lots of things right now. I wish you guys knew how much this means. 🎇

  • @McElitsome

    @McElitsome

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@IrenesConcierge that's on ✅

  • @digitallocations1423

    @digitallocations1423

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@McElitsome Don't listen to Irene. Sometimes wisdom comes with age and sometimes it doesn't come at all. If Shiv, Bright and Bien are at a place you want to be in the future, then they are the best people to advice you on how to get there. Ignore constructive criticism from people who don't construct anything.

  • @McElitsome

    @McElitsome

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@digitallocations1423 that's true. Plus I find myself generally drawing friends who are way older than me. Mostly cuz of the maturity that comes with it. That leads to trickles of wisdom on the way. Sometimes I learn from other people's mistakes in life. Since everyone is trying to figure out life, my mentality is to learn more from those who've made more mistakes and have learned from them. And at the same time gotten better. What a great place to do so than people who have essentially lived more. Basically, what @Irene Concierge is conveying is true, filtering out all the details. Which leaves a lot of room for uncertainty and misunderstanding. I guess that's the point of your reaction. Your comment is still valid though

  • @emilymukami1497
    @emilymukami14972 жыл бұрын

    Theres a new breed of men who seek to preach how sexy it is for a woman to 100% hustle and 100% take care of the home. This is how one gets wrinkles.Miss me with the BS.

  • @Paula-uz3xn

    @Paula-uz3xn

    2 жыл бұрын

    I know right?

  • @Asalix2
    @Asalix22 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Ivy! I was a stay-at-home mum for years! I went back to school when my last born went to university! I make no apologies for not working for money. I expected and got all my needs met. I still don't work, I still get my needs met. Everybody's different and that's okay too.

  • @aokookello5564

    @aokookello5564

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree with you. There are women who are home makers and that's a job in itself. Do you

  • @misschululups

    @misschululups

    2 жыл бұрын

    This is exactly my point.

  • @mjzimani

    @mjzimani

    2 жыл бұрын

    Can you please give me your Facebook handle I inbox you sometime?

  • @soniariziki9586
    @soniariziki95862 жыл бұрын

    Over 25 should always have the guys. Not that we don't like you ladies. We absolutely adore you!!!! The guys bring a different perspective of things and it's very enlightening to see things from the male point of view. And this panel is definitely it!! Bright, Shiv, & Bien are perfect. If you add one more maybe Ng'arua he's kinda nasty 🤣 in a good way.

  • @brianlangat7004
    @brianlangat70042 жыл бұрын

    Loving how Shiv shares his mind and doesn't back down from speaking the truth even when opposed. Both gender roles exist for a reason and work as a team. Don't compete because at the end of the day, you're on the same side!

  • @justherke

    @justherke

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think the problem is that there are gender roles assigned to begin with, instead of tasks that need to be done of which people get to agree and quantify what those are

  • @ruthdede2555

    @ruthdede2555

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nonzenze pls

  • @stephaniebitok

    @stephaniebitok

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree Brian. Both genders compliment each other. Sadly, we compare roles for competition, instead of looking at how helpful it is for both parties and as a unit.

  • @queencessphey6511
    @queencessphey65112 жыл бұрын

    Marriage has no set manual, Bien's view is fine and so is Bright's .. What I've learnt from this episode is marry your type, I've met biens in the dating field and I've been frustrated but i want a marriage as bright describes it so i'll wait for that.

  • @annmunyi901

    @annmunyi901

    2 жыл бұрын

    💯. I also note that people In the entertainment industry have certain type of lifestyle.

  • @queencessphey6511

    @queencessphey6511

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@annmunyi901 makes sense, i guess that's why they marry amongst themselves.

  • @Kui._
    @Kui._2 жыл бұрын

    Im just 21 and I've been following this channel and i can say for a fact that I've learnt a looot

  • @mferrister

    @mferrister

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same... I am 21 and I have loved the content. Grown and adjusted.

  • @daisypowon9762

    @daisypowon9762

    2 жыл бұрын

    Is this you 😂

  • @crystalmargarita6014
    @crystalmargarita60142 жыл бұрын

    More convos from the men's perspective PLEASE

  • @paulomolo2001
    @paulomolo20012 жыл бұрын

    We need more such episodes. This dynamic really works. Loved every second of this episode. Also, set up a Patreon for the unedited version of the convos we didn't see perhaps? And maybe live stream once in a while, to interact with and field questions from your audience.

  • @AmorFaith
    @AmorFaith2 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate how real this is, I hope you guys bring Bien back I love his perspective. Shivs openness is so refreshing. Communication is key.

  • @kennethndegwa9478
    @kennethndegwa94782 жыл бұрын

    thoroughly enjoyed the conversation and the honest input from the men. Jules questions were very much on point. Good stuff

  • @zaitunnkubitu1109
    @zaitunnkubitu11092 жыл бұрын

    1h long 😭....and I have an exam tomorrow at 8am...and am not even married but I still can't help but watch. I feel bewitched...😂❤ I hope you guys pray for your listeners...cause I'll need them tonight🙏

  • @mylovemybooks8865

    @mylovemybooks8865

    2 жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂 all the best dear

  • @michellekerubo8062
    @michellekerubo80622 жыл бұрын

    “Its not a competition” !! I needed to hear that😅and i know i’m not alone. Jeez yaani this was an hour long? Didnt even feel like it! I’d want to see Ivy and Shiv talk it out😂 waiting for part 2!

  • @wambuigorgeous

    @wambuigorgeous

    2 жыл бұрын

    Second this!!

  • @Njeeriy
    @Njeeriy2 жыл бұрын

    Ivy I love how you listen and internalise!And your point on how many things mum's do that go unnoticed and that can't be monetized 👍👍👍I stopped working and got rid of my dayburg,I reduced weekly shopping by a significant amount of money and I drop and pick my kids from school,I have saved my household over 50k monthly and I'm sure someone says I do nothing I just stay at home 🙄🙄🙄🙄 However my husband understands and appreciates and he gives me a stipend monthly

  • @donnajoe4442

    @donnajoe4442

    2 жыл бұрын

    Another problem that arises is when couples divorce and the man says he was paying the mortgage so he should get the house. What about all the bills the woman paid and her contributions that she made that were not recorded. So the man gets something and woman nothing.

  • @Njeeriy

    @Njeeriy

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@donnajoe4442 so true 😔😔😔

  • @angelinebetty6511
    @angelinebetty65112 жыл бұрын

    There’s no blue print on marriage, couples create your own culture.

  • @hildaninsiima2506

    @hildaninsiima2506

    2 жыл бұрын

    Makes true sense

  • @michelnasibu5714
    @michelnasibu57142 жыл бұрын

    Counselling + life coaching... Solid!!!!!! very good episode!

  • @khangatiemanuel6127
    @khangatiemanuel61272 жыл бұрын

    I never knew that I can be glued to a very long video on KZread. This is a nice one. I enjoyed it. Particularly the realness in the convos!

  • @denniskinuthia3261
    @denniskinuthia32612 жыл бұрын

    Best episode with the boys!!!!!!I've thoroughly enjoyed this ❤❤❤❤Very informative

  • @edawere9952
    @edawere99522 жыл бұрын

    Love, liked and enjoyed this episode. I've always wanted to know men's take, expectations and thinking on being a husband. Thank you

  • @annmunyi901
    @annmunyi9012 жыл бұрын

    My question to Bien & Ivy. What happens when you allow your significant other to probably get involved with another person & they want more. What if they continue seeing each other? What if a child is born in that one night? What if his/her feelings towards you fade & get stronger for the other person? What if they contact an infection in that 'jibambe' night? Things rarely go as they're planned. The difference between human beings & animals is the POWER OF CHOICE. ONE NIGHT HAS RUINED KINGS, QUEENS, CAREERS, MARRIAGES & EVEN DESTROYED KINGDOMS.

  • @wittybo0

    @wittybo0

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's refreshing to see someone ask these questions. I almost fell out reading comments and seeing so many ppl okay with the concept. To each his own but that's a very dangerous line to walk. Not I.

  • @loreenmakdal6380

    @loreenmakdal6380

    2 жыл бұрын

    You have a point; boundaries must be made and implemented. For me marriage is sacred, if u cannot commit just stay away

  • @beeamondi4801

    @beeamondi4801

    2 жыл бұрын

    I also don't support this, I rather just walk out and be with the other person then if I find them more attractive than my man

  • @Choc_Souffle
    @Choc_Souffle2 жыл бұрын

    Dope episode! I second Bien's idea of over 25 going for counseling.

  • @annenganga1265
    @annenganga12652 жыл бұрын

    Wow Bien ,that was an eye opener ,enyewe for ladies we build our world around guys,we need to get a life 🙆‍♀️

  • @vayo83
    @vayo832 жыл бұрын

    I propose a book called "Fair Play." It breaks down the invisible roles/ mental load really well.

  • @mellissawambui189
    @mellissawambui1892 жыл бұрын

    This episode was crazy good, I enjoyed and learnt from every minute of it. Ah, what a bunch of amazing intellectuals!

  • @DK-pi1bj
    @DK-pi1bj2 жыл бұрын

    Great video guys. Loved it. But aki let me just say that watching the part for men and babies triggered me. Here is why: I had a baby with my then-partner and I did absolutely EVERYTHING. From washing to feeding, to changing, to staying up at night...you name it. All of it. Mind you we were living together. Over and above that I was paying for all household costs with the exception of rent, so I was working as well. (We won't even go into the other things that were wrong with this relationship) I had zero emotional and physical support. My nanny was literally my crutch. (I was so lucky to have her, God bless her.)To be honest, I didn't mind chipping in financially, but this man gave me no emotional support whatsoever, so I grew very contemptuous and lost respect for him. It became such a toxic environment and I realized my child was feeding off that energy so I had to end it. But let me tell you, I'm jaded. I don't want any marriage/partnership/etc of any form, and I absofuckinglutely do not want any more children. That experience really did a number on me. It's refreshing to see the fathers in the video doing their part, but the lesson here is: Don't have kids with the wrong people :D

  • @GathoniMutuaM
    @GathoniMutuaM2 жыл бұрын

    Hey guys! Loved this ep! Waiting on that link in the description for the article and the podcast please...

  • @louiseketter4923
    @louiseketter49232 жыл бұрын

    One of your best videos ever. This needs to be a series.

  • @stanleymbewe9235
    @stanleymbewe92352 жыл бұрын

    I love Shiv, it shouldn't be a competition on whose doing more. If one partner feels overwhelmed or need help they could communicate. Episodes with Men should be an hour or more, great episode!!

  • @geoffreymalimo3312
    @geoffreymalimo33122 жыл бұрын

    That was awesome love the show the guys view were on top. finding a balance between the husband and the wife is very important and as Shiv says mostly depends how your raised, is not about competing is how you compliment each other.wonderful👍

  • @cynthiaWanzau
    @cynthiaWanzau2 жыл бұрын

    Great discussion guys!!Loved the different perspectives and the guys' input makes it even more interesting 💯💯

  • @lucychepchumbakimaru6347
    @lucychepchumbakimaru63472 жыл бұрын

    Really enjoyed this conversation! I think we should have a shiv and Ivy conversation after the article and podcast

  • @LynnsTV
    @LynnsTV2 жыл бұрын

    The money conversation is so much needed. This episode feels like marriage counseling and I'm here for it!!

  • @trendinggossip8692

    @trendinggossip8692

    2 жыл бұрын

    I support you sister

  • @LynnsTV

    @LynnsTV

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@trendinggossip8692 haha yes sis

  • @rickmathew3222
    @rickmathew32222 жыл бұрын

    👌the best panel...🎉 can't wait for more...! Discussion to come... Great panel! Shout out to you guys ☺️😉

  • @livras02
    @livras022 жыл бұрын

    I completely feel Bien!!!! We really need to rethink relationships 💯💯💯 Great episode guys!!!

  • @joycelusiola7577
    @joycelusiola75772 жыл бұрын

    I love this episode... Going into marriage is very scary especially when you and your partner haven't had the hard discussions while dating. This has been enlightening. Thank you guys!

  • @jessearika244
    @jessearika2442 жыл бұрын

    Am actually learning a lot from your episodes ladies, keep it up and God bless you. Personally I do everything from cooking, to washing, to cleaning, to be on toes with our children's education, to staying home with the kids, to ironing, to coaching my babies swimming and athletics and still be a husband. On the the other hand, my beautiful wife is hands on rent, school fees, power, shopping e.t.c because she earns more than i do. It's not a competition or some form of show off, but that's just how we live! Word of advice: Live freely, let it flow... If your wife is home late, get into your aprons and fix the kids something to eat. If she says she doesn't have money because she accidentally fell for a ponzi scheme thinking that she was investing, pay the nanny on her behalf and still pay for her salon, she's your wife for heavens sake... and vise versa! Upbringing really matters, so be careful when choosing partners. Don't go for her beauty or handsomeness and then spend the rest of your life fighting... Alaaaaaaa (in Atwoli's voice 😆)

  • @danielswarovski6462
    @danielswarovski64622 жыл бұрын

    Bien's level of self awareness is astonishing: I'm always taken aback and even jealous of his grasp of these concepts of life. Then add his honesty and just whoosh! His marriage must be something else.

  • @felicityleila8195

    @felicityleila8195

    2 жыл бұрын

    His marriage must be trash!!

  • @abbiewema4341

    @abbiewema4341

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@felicityleila8195 you're a bitter soul 🤣😹n it shows

  • @mercyawiti2608
    @mercyawiti26082 жыл бұрын

    Wow..Chiki is one lucky woman. I love the aspect of not owning another human being🥂 Don't lose your individualities because you're married 💯

  • @tankisosedutla9311
    @tankisosedutla93112 жыл бұрын

    Lorna said something about indoctrination *wanting to get married 🔥 Shiv talking about "it's not a competition on who works harder "🔥 Sauti sol B talking about Therapy Ivy talking about "non monetary contributions " The list is endless 😂 and this is me 🤭 enjoying shiv and shikies subtle romance 😂

  • @mremboblog
    @mremboblog2 жыл бұрын

    I have been married almost 20 years and totally disagree with what Bien is saying. There is truth to the fact that one will meet attractive men or women throughout the course of one's marriage. The question I have, is ... do I have to act on the attraction??? Do I have to tell my husband about my crush. Personally, I CANNOT SHARE MY HUSBAND. I cannot stomach the idea that he has kissed another woman, like so, touched her like so... the same way he touches me, whispered those love things to her... then come home to me do the same. If he comes home and tells me ati some chick is hot... I will be like.. "why are you telling me?" as in what am I to do with that information. I expect him to sort that stuff out himself. The same way I do. Sort it out, crush it.. and keep moving. Crushes come and go. You really do not need to act on it!! Hubby is of the same opinion... I am not allowed to be touching and whispering love things to another person. We have watched many we know get divorced throughout the years and it has been rather sad. All the couples we know over 7 who divorced... the person they moved on to.. waliachana tuu!!!! Then there are those who stay because, he will turn around, ama, because the lifestyle is good... the misery.... the heartbreak. What Bien and Ivy are talking about is akina Will Smith and Jada entaglement situations... and hiyo... is not for me and I do not know how it even works for anyone. See how that kijana who was entangling with Jada.... ended up feeling. Him he was in love.. Jada was... doing her entanglement thing... in my eyes.. Will Smith lost major man points and I am willing to put money that Will Smith does not sleep with his wife!!!! IF people what entanglements.. they should not marry... Waache kuharibu the institution of marriage. The worst thing that can happen is for an entanglement person to hook up with a monogamous person! Woi...the heart trauma. PS. would also like to say that in a marriage you can also grow together... there is the idea that one person in the relationship grows living behind the other... that is a half truth. You can both grow, both evolve and the sex can get better... aki... it can....

  • @lauracate5066

    @lauracate5066

    2 жыл бұрын

    But you see, you and your hubby are from an older generation. Having been married for 20 years I'm gauging you're over the age of 40. This new generation doesn't think like that.

  • @mremboblog

    @mremboblog

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lauracate5066 True.. I am in my 40s and what is being discussed is not new at all. Only this time, women are more open about it! Entanglements or as we used to call them, being cuckolded, open relationships, or threesomes... they all lead to heartbreak and heartache... Even polygamy none of it is ever happy or contented. I do realise, new generation has to try out things which they think are new... but as the scriptures say, "there is nothing new under the sun"

  • @lauracate5066

    @lauracate5066

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mremboblog Being from a polygamous family myself I'll have to agree with you. Plus being older you've seen life and are wiser than me haha. Enjoy your day!

  • @kijana2030

    @kijana2030

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree with you on the issue of entanglements, threesomes and debauchery. 🤮 Where we part ways is on the issue of polygamy. First of all, it is legal Kenya and allowed under Islamic and customary law. Secondly, polygamy is not about a man sleeping with another woman (he can do this even when married to one woman) but about ensuring all women have suitable husbands and children grow up in an environment with male figures. It just breaks my heart to see all the single mothers struggling out there yet there are capable men who can take them as second and third wives as was the case before colonialism.

  • @mremboblog

    @mremboblog

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kijana2030 To your point on polygamy, show me a happy polygamous family. Where the children feel loved and cared for, where there is no jealousies between the wives....where the man provides equally and loves fairly.... Where the wives willingly share the man.....

  • @Grace-mr8bc
    @Grace-mr8bc2 жыл бұрын

    I love how the guys always have a happy-confused look on their faces whenever the intro is being done.

  • @faithnjuguna1843
    @faithnjuguna18432 жыл бұрын

    Such great insights from y'all on relationships & marriages ❤️. Could listen to this over and over 👌🏾👏

  • @gracejohnson3048
    @gracejohnson30482 жыл бұрын

    What Ivy and Shive were talking about is the economical advantage men will often have over women. The previous gender role for men was to work and provide, while now women were expected to no house keeping. The gender roles and expectations for women as house keepers in the house have remained irrespective of the fact they have picked up new economic provision roles. Did men pick up any additional role? Some households men have made attempts to bridge this by also sharing house keeping roles. But what happens when child bearing comes in? Is it possible to share that? All in all, its a very valid issues that deserves a lot of airing and discussion and as Ivy said without both sides speaking from a point of arrogance.

  • @gracejohnson3048

    @gracejohnson3048

    2 жыл бұрын

    @UCfBw440Pq_kbYzcj9iVIgpA I did not pick a side in my response if you read it well enough, I simply elucidated the questions that have raised the debate and just to re-state what Ivy said "let's not speak from a point of arrogance". Now to address your point, the assumption that all people have nannies to take up such roles is really speaking from a point of privilege. Not just financial privilege but also educational and 'woke' privilege. Only a minority of homes have left stereotypical gender roles behind. Forget hiring nannies, not all ladies have awareness of traditionally overbearing gender roles, they are still groomed for marriage being taught these same roles. If they make the 'mistake' of getting married to traditionalists as you say, I dare not point a finger at them when they 'cry wolf' on realizing how overbearing it can be to take up such roles. Finally, it's essential that we see matters as 'societal issues or gender inequality without turning them into a war between men and women. Needless to say, there are also many unhealthy gender stereotypes that men carry on too that harm them mentally. So this shouldn't be a fight of men against women or traditionalists against the modern. It's a societal issue that should be open for mature discussion and deliberation. FGM, domestic violence, period poverty, child marriages, all these issues sounded like victim mentality until they were duly given a stable legal platform

  • @silviamwendia9439

    @silviamwendia9439

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@gracejohnson3048 thank you so much for these two points/comments. You have articulated all the thoughts I had on this point so well.

  • @mercyndirangu8903
    @mercyndirangu89032 жыл бұрын

    Awesome content as always! If you could kindly add the link to the article referenced to? The Just Ivy and Shiv debate? Thank you.

  • @conselahmithayo3058
    @conselahmithayo30582 жыл бұрын

    What a time to be alive and have such content creators with this authenticity ☺️💯

  • @xpresstv7689
    @xpresstv76892 жыл бұрын

    This was a necessary episode... I have learnt a lot... invite the guys often.

  • @brendagesare3302
    @brendagesare33022 жыл бұрын

    It's the 'Should we join in the' Welcome to Over25' intro' faces from the guys for me. 😂

  • @mytinylittlechannel

    @mytinylittlechannel

    2 жыл бұрын

    HAHAHAHA!

  • @CoachShivSimani

    @CoachShivSimani

    2 жыл бұрын

    Honestly never know whether I should 😅

  • @beccakesh3841
    @beccakesh38412 жыл бұрын

    These conversations are exactly what I signed up for!!!

  • @lilywhite8902
    @lilywhite89022 жыл бұрын

    Marriage comes with change. You got to come out of a cocoon of singlehood ndo iwork. 'Kukaliana' in a good way. You can't be single and married at the same time, simple

  • @kijana2030

    @kijana2030

    2 жыл бұрын

    You have heard what the men have said but unfortunately you have chosen to ignore it. Expect a rocky ride in your marriage.

  • @lilywhite8902

    @lilywhite8902

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kijana2030 and what makes you think that the three men represent all men. Someone needs a statistics 101 to kick off. Bien is here to mislead people, wake up

  • @kijana2030

    @kijana2030

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lilywhite8902 and therein lies the problem. You have dismissed what the panelists have said, myself included. Bien is not misleading anyone he's expressed his position which I agree with since that has been my position all along. You on the other hand want to kalia your man which you are entitled to. There are millions of these men out there and I think women call them mama's boys; men call them simps. It's in your best interest to marry a simp but don't complain after a while when you discover they have no alpha male qualities.

  • @patrickwaweru6589
    @patrickwaweru65892 жыл бұрын

    I think a big problem I have seen is majorly two things: 1). Either/both partners think it's a competition 2). The sense of ownership (completely agree with Ben; make your own decisions I am not your property)

  • @achiegift1794

    @achiegift1794

    2 жыл бұрын

    Product of a happy home, her parents must be proud 🥰

  • @polycarpnyagisera3172
    @polycarpnyagisera31722 жыл бұрын

    Loved this episode. I could feel the emotions in the voice as some were explaining their points. Which pointed to how authentic the discussions were. At some point though, the guys were mentioning about how they want their ladies to be working and then later one alluded how they wish their lady would stay at home and take care of the kids. Somehow felt like contradiction but I feel it clearly shows sometimes, it may be best to handle things on a case by case basis and not over-generalise one size fits all. Dope discussions. (We have headed to Jules call and decided to comment too.

  • @wambui4179
    @wambui41792 жыл бұрын

    If classes in UNI were taught like this...we would never miss classes. So engaging, interesting, educating...yani sat through a whole one hour to listen and I enjoyed, I did not zone out....

  • @jemmyfoodie5855

    @jemmyfoodie5855

    2 жыл бұрын

    Very true!!!

  • @hellenamedia3470

    @hellenamedia3470

    2 жыл бұрын

    Pole! Lakini sometimes we have to sit through boring stuff😂😂...Character development!!!!!

  • @ken4722

    @ken4722

    2 жыл бұрын

    But shetani ni nani. Universities just want to pump us full with calculus and accounting.

  • @Asalix2

    @Asalix2

    2 жыл бұрын

    Many universities teach like this

  • @jenniferodera598
    @jenniferodera5982 жыл бұрын

    Ivy was 100% on point on the unpaid labour women have to shoulder being greater than mens and you guys should do a video unpacking it. Also, the article has not been linked.

  • @ladysafari01

    @ladysafari01

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ever watched this interview for unpaid job? kzread.info/dash/bejne/nK2BvMGFf7nJptI.html

  • @ggwanjiku2017
    @ggwanjiku20172 жыл бұрын

    notification gang for suree🥰🤗🤗 another beautiful Monday and lawwwd don't I love this women 😍❤

  • @thegodlyprincess_kenya
    @thegodlyprincess_kenya2 жыл бұрын

    Bien should remain in this channel for good😅his energy is as real as it comes ❤️

  • @nyamburakimani9626
    @nyamburakimani96262 жыл бұрын

    The kind of conversations we subscribed for.

  • @thebasementchild_
    @thebasementchild_2 жыл бұрын

    Love the fact that y’all are so mature about everything❤️Despite everyone having their own opinions❤️love it

  • @koeywangui-
    @koeywangui-2 жыл бұрын

    We fail to see people for who they really are and expect them to be how we see them!

  • @nawi332
    @nawi3322 жыл бұрын

    Ivy coming through with the pertinent questions! Yes! 😎

  • @scaryzy
    @scaryzy2 жыл бұрын

    Bien-Aime is a really nice name. It's French and it means Well-Loved.

  • @nyamaihilda5592
    @nyamaihilda55922 жыл бұрын

    So educative...the point of you having your own life even though there's someone else! God bless y'all

  • @lyndahndiwa703
    @lyndahndiwa7032 жыл бұрын

    Enjoyed the episode I wish it was more longer thank you though❤️

  • @georgiagitonga5631
    @georgiagitonga56312 жыл бұрын

    Biens wisdom 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾 this is how all men should be. People might not get him but he is 🔥🔥🔥

  • @jojonyambura9879
    @jojonyambura98792 жыл бұрын

    I love loooove this conversation. It is refreshing to know that there are hands-on men with their kids, but could we have an episode where the men talk about the kids they had or might have had before marriage with other women who they are not currently married to? Like do they choose which kids to take care of and which ones not to take care of or how far can they go as far as taking care of these children? Or maybe how or why they can even choose to take care of the children in the current marriage and ignore the children from previous relationships.

  • @irenechege9118
    @irenechege91182 жыл бұрын

    Just 12mins in and Bien is making historical Points 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾..Love to see my culture being so self Aware ❤️❤️❤️

  • @briangatiu8662
    @briangatiu86622 жыл бұрын

    Bien has some great points. You are meant to experience your partner not own them.

  • @faithvuyanzi5769
    @faithvuyanzi57692 жыл бұрын

    I loved this, but I have to challenge Bien's perspective of a focus on wealth building as his way of being husband. It is acceptable and it is a possible life but it has its costs. No amount of wealth or success can ever replace active presence and a middle ground is a necessity. In reality, there is often many people who can replace your course, vocation or the work you do on earth but your presence to your family has no substitute. You gotta find ways of making it count amid all the chaos and demands of capitalism.

  • @geoffreykabau8415
    @geoffreykabau84152 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting conversation...keep bringing the dudes more often. Well done.

  • @SakeKasir
    @SakeKasir2 жыл бұрын

    more episodes with the guys. May these conversations continue being this long.

  • @habertwakhu2539
    @habertwakhu25392 жыл бұрын

    Mr Bien usually and always has very strong and real points which is actually the truth on the ground but people will really find it hard to embrace it

  • @NishiWahuGitau
    @NishiWahuGitau2 жыл бұрын

    I love the space marriage creates for partnerships, with that said just the way we protect our business partnerships is the way we should our marriages. All the same I'm loving the series with the guys. Please have more episodes with them, it's great to hear a mans perspective.

  • @benben4782
    @benben47822 жыл бұрын

    THANKS OVER 25 for having our male counterparts on the show and discussing on how to being a husband or should i say a good respectable husband,some of us like me where brought up by a single parent who is most of the time are mothers so i didnt really experience that husband type of situations and know how things are supposed to be or not to be.It was a very educational episode and i have learned and noted a lot..keep it up cant wait for the next episode.. thanks gents and always looking spectacular ladies.

  • @leilanisamm4347
    @leilanisamm43472 жыл бұрын

    Every relationship /marriage is unique, you just have to find what works best for yours...

  • @gracewangui2355
    @gracewangui23552 жыл бұрын

    Everyone looking soo good but I could not take my eyes off jules today and she is such a vibe

  • @yourstrulyKe

    @yourstrulyKe

    2 жыл бұрын

    One Word...clavicle!!🙌 😁

  • @Mukundi_cyn

    @Mukundi_cyn

    2 жыл бұрын

    A gem and a half 😍

  • @muhirwaerica777

    @muhirwaerica777

    2 жыл бұрын

    😍 gorgeous

  • @askmethings737

    @askmethings737

    2 жыл бұрын

    Jules is always a vibe 🤩

  • @carolmutiso2433
    @carolmutiso24332 жыл бұрын

    Great episode imeisha haraka aje! Awesome moderation Jules!

  • @ken4722
    @ken47222 жыл бұрын

    I am not married but what I got from this video is that there is no one right way of doing marriage. If people want to run their marriage traditionally or in a modern way and they are happy with whichever arrangement, then that's that. Also, communication must remain alive at all times.

  • @damarismukami.
    @damarismukami.2 жыл бұрын

    Whats an awesome panel,👌 👏 👍 😍 very insightful conversations.

  • @liliankaimuri5488
    @liliankaimuri54882 жыл бұрын

    Leme leave my comment here coz I really feel this conversation .I think its all about partners understanding that, am here with you by choice. And am complete by myself..so you too should be complete by yourself. And this needs two healthy partners to really understand. That we are married yes, but am still my own separate individual from you, still with my dream career or job , friends family , etc, that you too should be in your own path, individually, but also as a couple we have want we do together.now the kids, finances , everything else .I think this is how a relationship gets to be healthy. And the way sauti sou is saying..if the chick gets the guy of her dream, enjoy babe, simply because he will never force her to be with him .she has freedom . he doesn't own her. I could write a book. Haha..but this thing needs you to really be a mature,complete person who loves their own self to understand

  • @bitutujoy5147
    @bitutujoy51472 жыл бұрын

    Chileee thank you for making it 1 hour♥️♥️♥️♥️

  • @shiru_njogu
    @shiru_njogu2 жыл бұрын

    Amazing episode.... also, we need an episode on everything monogamy and exclusivity with the guys 😊

  • @joynermugalitsi7471
    @joynermugalitsi74712 жыл бұрын

    Oh man! I just like the way Bien is so real 👍 with himself and anyone around him.

  • @xoxomacx2539
    @xoxomacx25392 жыл бұрын

    One of the better episodes so far!!👍🏾👍🏾

  • @McondisiPhilangezwiLuhlanga

    @McondisiPhilangezwiLuhlanga

    2 жыл бұрын

    Her silence is too loud

  • @dianakithinji622
    @dianakithinji6222 жыл бұрын

    This episode was really eye opening ladies...keep at it ❤️

  • @karimikagwe9263
    @karimikagwe92632 жыл бұрын

    What Shiv said at the end ..the curtains story 🤣🤣🤣 so true ! We aren't always ready mannn

  • @nadiaayaakiseka6436
    @nadiaayaakiseka64362 жыл бұрын

    Truly enjoyed this episode; I've learnt a lot👏🏽

  • @hannahjabu
    @hannahjabu2 жыл бұрын

    Jules did such a hyped intro, I was smiling all the way

  • @oniniso5825
    @oniniso58252 жыл бұрын

    Much better moderation today. 👏🏾👏🏾

  • @mshoo92
    @mshoo922 жыл бұрын

    This was a wonderful episode!! Thanks over 25 guys!!!

  • @BarongoMotangi
    @BarongoMotangi2 жыл бұрын

    having Dr Bright on your channel. Aaaah. HANDS DOWN!!!!

  • @beloncekamz2821
    @beloncekamz28212 жыл бұрын

    Yay! The men are back!!! Aki Bien is a comedien😂😂.Kumbe hii ni primary/high school reunion . Refreshing topic. An hour well spent💯 Wacha tuchukue notes📝. #Ivy's scarf😍😘.

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