I was there in 1985. Fascinating place. It was a Turkish holiday so I don't remember anyone else being there except a guy selling hand made Trojan horses from match sticks (I still have it), a ticket seller and 2 of my friends.

Outstanding. Thanks to the perseverance of one man, humanity added a major jewel to its treasure. In memoriam of archeologist Manfred Korfmann, leading the works at this site. R.I.P.

@maximiliand2544

11 ай бұрын

Yet history forgets Frank Calvert. The elderly man that originally identified the area and cautioned Heinrich Schliemann to go slowly with his excavations.

@KenFullman

5 ай бұрын

It's a bit out of date. The story of Troy has been found to be a copy of a story from the Hittites that predates it,

@weberianobrasil4406

2 ай бұрын

​@@KenFullman Troy or Ilion is Wilusa

@Opa-Leo

2 ай бұрын

First, There is no definitive answer to this question, as the Hittite and Greek cultures had different literary traditions and genres. Second, the story of the "Song of Release", between exchange of captives between the cities Ebla and Ikinkalis, is not original, it has been going on since warfare was invented. Third, the story of the "Cuthean Legend", where Sargonic king Naram-Sin faces a series of invasions by monstrous enemies sent by the gods, and where he consults the gods by omens, but disregards their advice and suffers a defeat is as old as religion was invented. Fourth, not all scholars agree with your contention.@@KenFullman

That motivation can do anything. thanks to everyone who ever involved in this venture.god bless them.

I live in Turkey, this documentary is very successful. I believe that troy was real and the trojan war likely exist in here !

@jagdishramanathan4620

3 жыл бұрын

in my opinion islam destroyed all monuments as per koranic order as they did in India

@tatan4939

3 жыл бұрын

Pegasus and so?

@ermioniburgess8720

3 жыл бұрын

Troy was Iliad.Name Troy 445 BC.It was rebuilt by the Greeks of Neapoli.An earthquake destroy the original city.Troy was real and people living there in Apostole Paul's day as he mention Troy.

@nicolaspace1182

3 жыл бұрын

@@jagdishramanathan4620 lmao total lie. Your president is so embarrassing, he makes Trump look like a highly competent Angel in comparison.

@wolfpack2210

3 жыл бұрын

Nicolas Pace Do you have to go into politics? Can’t we leave that out ?

Rare to find a relatively recent documentary this good! Thank you

@LefeinNoel

4 ай бұрын

This looked like 1999-2000 documentary, was it sooner than that? Edit saw comment is 3 yrs old

@stefansoder6903

4 ай бұрын

@@LefeinNoel I'm still here! I don't really understand my own comment though... It looks about as old as you say. The over the top Ancient Aliens stuff took over later.

@opaqueandbluefrommyphone4339

Ай бұрын

@@stefansoder6903leave it to ancient aliens to mess up the history of a historic civilization and their creations. I’m sorry but humanity built all of the historical landmarks we enjoy today and are yet to discover. Aliens did not fly down and built civilization for us

@martin3203

Ай бұрын

@@LefeinNoelThis episode of Lost Worlds first aired in 2002. It could very well include footage from 1999-2000.

Absolutely intriguing and fascinating. Thank you for posting/sharing.

@RIZFERD

3 жыл бұрын

Mahameru or Great Meru is just one of evidence of Hindu. As Hindu wasn't religion as today but an Ancient region from Indonesia all the way to Europe. As India the significant remaining. I am not surprised in Bali 2012 I had a bizarre experience meeting one of my Ancestors from another realm, out of common people logic spiritual understanding. As surrounding of Bali's 4 mountains, is Gate 7 of Earth's Chakra 7th which is Mount Kailash Tibet. Called Hindia, Indus, Indo (also Indo Europe and Indo Persia), even Indonesia means Indo Nesos, Indo Islands, exactly on center of Equator line. Richest nature on entire world, resourceful both on and in the ground. Most humid yet stable weather all year around, alway sunrise at 6 AM to sunset 6 PM. Sumatra itself means Sumer/Summer/Sun/Gold and Tera/Terre/Earth/Land = Mother of Sumeria. The highest humidity and with so many volcanoes than anywhere in the world made the things decaying easily, even worldwide still don't know about our oldest ancient civilization before the massive eruption of Toba 74000 years ago resulted today world's larget crater lake, volcanic Toba lake with width around 100 kilometers. As our Ancestors were even much more advanced than us today and flee towards today Europe, Middle East, America escaped the eruption larger than Yellowstone USA. #Indonesia ;) Jesus/Isa, Muhammad, even Abraham/Ibrahim never lived around the world alone since child, they don't even speak world languages ;) I am an #Aquarius (Sun + Moon + Pallas). #Indonesia #religion #islam #christianity #judaism #israel #ksa #saudiarabia #vatican all of them are just of very poor nature of middle east and west. Religion = region rely on their legion and legislation. Yes very poor nature regions, the system to fool and conquer the world and no more! Enough of lies! #Truth #Indonesia #RealRich

Excellent documentary, really enjoyed it. I've subscribed, thanks for posting.

It was not only Helen's beauty that launched a thousand ships - like Hercules she was divine birth from Zeus, but you keep your minds on the rocks !

Troy must have been an incredible sight back then. Impressive walls, and large buildings painted with vibrant colors. The sights, sounds and smells, good and bad, of a large ancient bronze age city. The war could easily have been fought for 10 years, but it probably was on and off, not constant. Although the 10 year time frame, like the 1,000 ships was probably an exaggeration, an embellishment, for dramatic purposes, just like follywood does today. And if the beach at Troy was all swamp and marsh land (mosquitos heaven) where did the Greek fleet land and camp??

@FAITHFUL-SERVANT-OF-GOD

Ай бұрын

The horse is loaded ready to roll out lol

@FAITHFUL-SERVANT-OF-GOD

Ай бұрын

The great horse the knight , youll wake up with. It will seem like a thief in the knight. Like a thief in the night 😮hmmmm. Well soon gods gonna give you'll a clue. Don't look for walsdo 😅

A cogent discourse I have ever heard! Marvelous!

@RIZFERD

3 жыл бұрын

Mahameru or Great Meru is just one of evidence of Hindu. As Hindu wasn't religion as today but an Ancient region from Indonesia all the way to Europe. As India the significant remaining. I am not surprised in Bali 2012 I had a bizarre experience meeting one of my Ancestors from another realm, out of common people logic spiritual understanding. As surrounding of Bali's 4 mountains, is Gate 7 of Earth's Chakra 7th which is Mount Kailash Tibet. Called Hindia, Indus, Indo (also Indo Europe and Indo Persia), even Indonesia means Indo Nesos, Indo Islands, exactly on center of Equator line. Richest nature on entire world, resourceful both on and in the ground. Most humid yet stable weather all year around, alway sunrise at 6 AM to sunset 6 PM. Sumatra itself means Sumer/Summer/Sun/Gold and Tera/Terre/Earth/Land = Mother of Sumeria. The highest humidity and with so many volcanoes than anywhere in the world made the things decaying easily, even worldwide still don't know about our oldest ancient civilization before the massive eruption of Toba 74000 years ago resulted today world's larget crater lake, volcanic Toba lake with width around 100 kilometers. As our Ancestors were even much more advanced than us today and flee towards today Europe, Middle East, America escaped the eruption larger than Yellowstone USA. #Indonesia ;) Jesus/Isa, Muhammad, even Abraham/Ibrahim never lived around the world alone since child, they don't even speak world languages ;) I am an #Aquarius (Sun + Moon + Pallas). #Indonesia #religion #islam #christianity #judaism #israel #ksa #saudiarabia #vatican all of them are just of very poor nature of middle east and west. Religion = region rely on their legion and legislation. Yes very poor nature regions, the system to fool and conquer the world and no more! Enough of lies! #Truth #Indonesia #RealRich

@ElectricalExistence

3 жыл бұрын

@@RIZFERD you're insane

@RIZFERD

3 жыл бұрын

@@ElectricalExistence LOL you said that based on your narrowed view from your tiny box, you never even lived around the world alone since child and a complete multiracial and multilingual like me. You commoners are just commoners ;) Royal means above average ;)

@ElectricalExistence

3 жыл бұрын

@@RIZFERD nothing about you is royal.

@ElectricalExistence

3 жыл бұрын

@@RIZFERD you're insane because you think you "met an ancestor from another realm". That's literally crazy talk. Only other weak minded crazed drugged out weirdos would take you seriously.

In Ephesus they had the same thing with the nearby sea. It was in former times much closer than it is today

Ancient stuff gives my brain a break from today while working.

Great documentary

@tusharchandanshive9806

4 жыл бұрын

Hindu kyu bujdil hai bataoge

@FAITHFUL-SERVANT-OF-GOD

Ай бұрын

Only faith gets over the wall

I love it when so called 'experts' scoff at so called 'myths'...then evidence destroys them. Arrogance being destroyed never grows old

My opinion on the matter. I’m convinced that once in the Bronze Age a war happened at the cite we now think is Troy and that it was between the Mycenaean Greeks and the sometimes vassal state of the Hittite kingdom named Wilusa. It might have even been fought over the “theft” of certain women or at least that used as a reason or “false flag”. The Mycenaeans often raided parts of “Asia” as they called it for women to work as slaves of the state working the flax plants into linen. Why couldn’t it have happened the other way around. I don’t understand why the Greeks would want to make what has really been the most important national or cultural myth of a war against some random city on the Troad in Asia Minor. The Hittite library of different cuneiform texts has also made it more interesting since they were deciphered. Also I’ll add that we have known the bay came up near the city in the Bronze Age, the anti chariot like ditch cut into the bedrock, and the dug out cave spring matches description very nicely. Some of the things Homer or whoever wrote down the Iliad explained so perfectly were long grown over or built over by the classical era so that complicates Homer just making it up. Finally I think the Mycenaean Greek states did very likely choose a prominent, “well bread”, older family member, or powerful strongman type king to led on the largest war expeditions. Yes they fought each other at times probably over the transfer of the kingship of a area after the death of a king without an heir to the throne. These were hard times and people died young. All my info except for a couple points I give all the credit to the wonderful documentary series by Micheal Wood called “In search of the Trojan War”. Watch all 6 episodes please you’ll love it. PS he made a lot of these claims like the fact water once did come up near the city back in the 1980’s and really gets into the most interesting important Hittite connections. Remember tons of historians and archaeologists aren’t ever gonna say it happened period. They are taught not to. They say well your guessing but they do when they want to and call it interpretation and usually just say something is “a mythological cite” or “spiritual, religious”. History especially pre history is full of much farther speculative interpretations than saying a war between the Mycenaean Greeks and Troad Trojans of Wilusa happened and became an even bigger beautiful myth.

@magdahearne497

10 ай бұрын

Michael Wood's series was excellent I agree. I can never understand why historians just think some stories are myths....why wouldn't Homer write a play of an event that the Greeks would celebrate like the war against Ilium? Makes sense that he'd write a "best-seller" as it were, any play write wants to have bums on seats & a successful run of his play.

@ben-jam-in6941

10 ай бұрын

@@magdahearne497 That’s exactly my opinion as well. Like Wood says in one of the videos in that series “why would the Greek national myth be about Ilium if it wasn’t based on some ancient reality”. Why pick that far off place when we know Greeks fought wars among themselves and closer neighbours?

@magdahearne497

10 ай бұрын

Exactly! Most victors would want to crow about their heroes & their exploits in battles that were won against outside enemies & any sneaky tactics that were used....it's only human nature to have a "my dog's better than your dog" moment. It's good PR to have it known by your enemies that these things are celebrated & recorded, to make others think twice before attacking you.

@ben-jam-in6941

10 ай бұрын

@@magdahearne497 And that would eventually lead to those heroes doing demigod like things in the story. It all probably started out as a more reasonable recollection of what really happened during the so called “Trojan” war then over time it became this absolutely wonderful yet at times unbelievable story. A modern example.. well kind of is like Normandy Veterans of the Second World War. If you added up all the veterans who said they saw a Tiger tank then the Germans must have built 10’s of thousands when in reality they only built something like 1500 and most went to fight the Russians. No doubt they had some Tigers in France but they couldn’t all have seen Tigers. Also every time the Germans shelled the Allies it was from the 88mm. It was widespread but the German army had larger more destructive caliber guns and a lot of smaller ones like the very destructive 75mm. Over the years and possibly by mistake due to a real and reasonable fear of the monster Tiger tank and it’s general popularity has made every Veteran on almost all documentaries talk about seeing a Tiger. I think some saw panzer 4’s with the very long high velocity 75mm and possibly with that slab side armor. If you hadn’t fought in North Africa then you likely hadn’t seen either tank in the flesh until Normandy. This is important.. I mean zero disrespect to any Allied Veteran and honestly have more respect for the few who are still with us and those who have passed than any other group of human beings I can think of. As for those who gave up their lives for the sake of humanity and civilization during the war… well words fail me. Absolute RESPECT comes to mind.

@ben-jam-in6941

10 ай бұрын

Let me apologize for that novel that’s supposed to be a KZread comment. I love those two subjects (The Bronze Age especially Trojan War and all things WW2) so I got a bit overzealous. 😬 sorry

What a great documentary. Shame there is an ad every 6 minutes!

Thanks for a great watch interesting makes you wonder what if it’s true

@ahar7624

2 жыл бұрын

I think like everything there is probably a lot of truth...the myths are probably just embellishments of the basic historical fact

Troy is in western Anatolia (Turkey).

very good

Interesting very interesting

I've seen numerous documentaries on Troy over the years and this one is good. I have never believed in the "Helen" part of the story. Nor do I believe in the duration of 10 years. I'm even skeptical of 10 months when considering the amount of infrastructure required to fight a war for 10 years. Imagine the amount of food, water, armament, arrows and the amount of soldiers that were killed everyday. I also don't believe in the 10 year voyage home of Odyseus. I have no problem believing that this is the location of Troy, but the war was fought for greed and wealth. One of the documentaries I've seen mention a wall in Troy that could not be scaled by the Greeks as it was smooth and the stones were rounded as if by heating. The narrator did a test with the same type of stones and fire and the stones did become smooth. Schliemann discovered this wall and it was where Homer said it was. As added proof for the validity of the site being Troy, DNA tests could be done on the human remains that lie outside of the walls of Troy to determine if they are Greek in origin.

@bluesky6985

Жыл бұрын

The story of the Trogan war may be an embellishment because the Trojans and Greeks were both descended from Zarah of the Red Thread line of the tribe of Judah

@solitaireburton3740

Жыл бұрын

Glad you could get so much from it. I suppose if I look at it specifically and only from the idea of Troy it's ok. But when he mentioned Troy in relation to the rest of the world, I became way less interested. Bc then he really started reaching out past actual Troy and completely dropped the ball.

@masada2828

11 ай бұрын

The region of NW Asia Minor surrounding the ancient city of Troy or, Troas. Paul visited Troas in 67AD.

@joanhuffman2166

11 ай бұрын

Didn't the Greeks of that time practice cremation?

@joanhuffman2166

11 ай бұрын

In a time and place where kidnapping women was a regular prelude to marriage or concubinage, why would the story of some spoiled princeling stealing the wife of some petty chief be unbelievable?

I mean are the arrows and spear head found in the walls greek made or same as all the others found around the site? Cause typically only enemy weaponry would be found embedded into the walls, unless of course their was perhaps a civil war at some point in time which would explain it.

It’s literally EXACTLY how it was described. It makes me really think like about Plato and Atlantis. I’ve been obsessed with the eye of the Sahara for a while now and it just seems so perfect for that to be the sight of Atlantis. “Why isn’t anything there anymore” because there was a giant flood. If you look at the sand striatum s and the ripples of the desert the waves had to have been insanely massive. So water will wash away anything if it’s powerful enough

@Stupidityindex

Жыл бұрын

New Chronology & the massive amount of data has found troy. Archeology has much better strata data in the past few decades, since this documentary. Gunnar Heinsohn.

@phuckpootube6231

11 ай бұрын

Plato also so described Utopia, but you won't find it on a map.

@phuckpootube6231

11 ай бұрын

There has been no giant flood.

@ritialydia

8 ай бұрын

.. aannd one annoyed woman leveled it. Amazing.

Shout out to the dude in the California Raisins shirt 2:37

They will never find a sign board - TROY.

Can a liguist please explain how Troy came from Ilios?

Finally the truth about this incredible city of acient times! 👍

i wish I had enough time to visit the actual Troy site in June 2019, but I was on my way to Ephesus after spending 1 night at Kanakkali, Turkey. I did see the Hollywood version of the wodern trojan horse sitting in the square facing the sea, still awesome view. I wish to visit this place again, such a peacefull town in front of the sea today.

The treasures being from a time earlier than Homer's Troy could be explained this way - it was likely looted by Troy from somewhere else. And before that, likely by various conquerors. No different from the Soviets who had taken these from Germany during WW II. And Schielman from Turkey.

@MatCendana

4 жыл бұрын

The Trojan Horse - I think this might not have existed. At least not in the dramatic way Homer had said. For one thing, even if a huge wooden horse was made, it's not likely the Trojan wouldn't have investigated it first before pulling into the city. With soldiers inside, it would have been very heavy and made the Trojans suspicious. More likely would be the Greeks getting turncoats from inside the city.

@victoriawhite3662

3 жыл бұрын

Ahmad if it did exist it most certainly was not a huge oversized thing

When is a time machine going to be invented?

@EdgyDuck

3 жыл бұрын

When pigs fly

@user-bg9kw3it4w

21 күн бұрын

Emiliano Ernetti made the Chronovizer in 1955. I read about it in the 80's, in Germany. Also it was a "hot stuff" subject in some tv show.

At 6'13" the narrating voice states: "The Iliad gives a haunting account of the destruction and massacre that followed [the opening of the gates of Troy by the warriors, who had been hiding inside the horse]". Sorry, guys, but EVERYBODY KNOWS that the Iliad does not include a narration of the end of the city, since it only concerns an episode of the war.

@timmusk9939

3 жыл бұрын

6` 13" that's 7' foot why not just say that if they stated this?

@CarloRolle

3 жыл бұрын

@@timmusk9939 "At 6 minutes and 13 seconds from the start of the video".

Troy did exist - discovered by the archaeologist Scheliman. The actual site of Troy had been built on 7 times, I think. He followed the old stories from Homer.

1:00 the experts always know best, especially the apostles of denial of other people's discoveries, aka the career debunkers. Only their own discoveries must be uncontested.

School curriculum will now onwards include this documentary.

@RIZFERD

3 жыл бұрын

Mahameru or Great Meru is just one of evidence of Hindu. As Hindu wasn't religion as today but an Ancient region from Indonesia all the way to Europe. As India the significant remaining. I am not surprised in Bali 2012 I had a bizarre experience meeting one of my Ancestors from another realm, out of common people logic spiritual understanding. As surrounding of Bali's 4 mountains, is Gate 7 of Earth's Chakra 7th which is Mount Kailash Tibet. Called Hindia, Indus, Indo (also Indo Europe and Indo Persia), even Indonesia means Indo Nesos, Indo Islands, exactly on center of Equator line. Richest nature on entire world, resourceful both on and in the ground. Most humid yet stable weather all year around, alway sunrise at 6 AM to sunset 6 PM. Sumatra itself means Sumer/Summer/Sun/Gold and Tera/Terre/Earth/Land = Mother of Sumeria. The highest humidity and with so many volcanoes than anywhere in the world made the things decaying easily, even worldwide still don't know about our oldest ancient civilization before the massive eruption of Toba 74000 years ago resulted today world's larget crater lake, volcanic Toba lake with width around 100 kilometers. As our Ancestors were even much more advanced than us today and flee towards today Europe, Middle East, America escaped the eruption larger than Yellowstone USA. #Indonesia ;) Jesus/Isa, Muhammad, even Abraham/Ibrahim never lived around the world alone since child, they don't even speak world languages ;) I am an #Aquarius (Sun + Moon + Pallas). #Indonesia #religion #islam #christianity #judaism #israel #ksa #saudiarabia #vatican all of them are just of very poor nature of middle east and west. Religion = region rely on their legion and legislation. Yes very poor nature regions, the system to fool and conquer the world and no more! Enough of lies! #Truth #Indonesia #RealRich

This is assuming that everyone went to bed at the same time. Nobody was wandering around at night.

which army had the funny helmets?

Original: Lost Worlds; the search for troy.

no wonder greek culture is seen as the mother of most european cultures. Greece sure did a number on Europe, Asia and Africa. its past is so beautiful...

Outstanding. Shame Troy is gone and Rome still exist.

@masada2828

11 ай бұрын

Rome, still has a purpose to perform in history.

The necklace could have been passed down to King Priam

according to ancient historians Alexander and Hephaistion sacrificed at the tomb of Achilles and Patroklos. Has that site been found yet?

Has to be some good tombs hidden there

Modern archaeologists now agree that this is in fact Troy. The jewelry which disappeared for some years reappeared in Russia in the 90s.

@SandyRiverBlue

3 жыл бұрын

@Jeremy Kirkpatrick Do you though?

@user-oy1ws3cr4d

9 күн бұрын

Культура,называемая троянской_существовала в то время,ещё во многих местах!Троянцы жили не только в Трое!У них там было много городов!

It seems overly literal to be so strict in the dating of Homer's stories. Didn't he canonize much earlier legends?

MOUND BUILDERS...HEATHER WARNINGS !!

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit! Per varios casus per tot discrimina rerum tendimus in Latium, sedes ubi fata quietas ostendunt: illic fas regna resurgere TROIAE. Durate, et vosmet rebus servate secundis! (Aeneid I, 203-207)

Those are 2 things that once you start believing in , you spend the rest of your life trying to understand.

The commercials are too @$&! loud!!!

@ethimself5064

3 жыл бұрын

Get an Ad Blocker

9 layers with so many artifacts and just shallow bedtime story.

46:36 Mudflood

@7:30, watch a large spider or ant or scorpion run across the stone to the right of the carved face. I don't know why they didn't edit that out.

@sandeepk2398

3 жыл бұрын

That's the ashes....

@lindalee7322

3 жыл бұрын

@Incorruptus Thank you for identifying the bug for me. The sculpture is so beautiful. I'm surprised it's still laying there.

Brilliant documentary. The detractors are rather annoying because no one is saying that the Trojan War happened exactly as in Homer. I think most people understand that the Iliad is a mythological account of a real and probably shorter and less epic war. Just because Spiderman isn't real, doesn't mean New York City doesn't exist.

@anutanastase5687

4 жыл бұрын

MistyHerbie Iliad and Odyssee were firstvoll Gospels of prehellenic religion which sacred centre was Achileia. Now, the remnants are the small town of Chilia, half in Ukraine, half in Romania. The tribe of Molosians lead by Andromaca, left Troy and settled near Achileia. Alexander the Great considered the Molosians his ancestors and paid a visit them, crossing Danube river at Isaccea, Achileia beeing situated on a bank of Danube. He restored the town, with walls and temples. The Greeks from the colonies in his way fought against Alexander, at that time Macedonia being not colonised by Greeks. Later, over the text of this gospels, they superposed a story. Achilles, as son of God Zeus and planet Tetis, (Eart), is a equivalency of "modern" Jesus Christ. Odysseus too.

@tymanung6382

Жыл бұрын

@@anutanastase5687 ??.Scholars, in. websites,.say that Trojans were Lowians a defunct Indo.Euro people, related toGreeks, Germanics, Celts, Persians N Indians, etc. Also, imperial.wars. always have wraltpower status as goals. Troy was commercial.gateway for Greeks to trade + many Black Sea countries---- strong Troy meant high tariffs for Greeks, etc. If Helen.of Sparta +,Troy was real, perhaps she was a Greek covert agent an excuse for Greek coalition to attack Troy + its trade tariff monopoly--- agent provacateur? Or inside jobber? Iliad. says that she was rescued + not punished for defecting to Troy.

I think people coming from Europe would have thought "wow, lots of treasure if we take it". Europeans at this time didn't have large stone cities, though they had settlements of thousands of people, but what they did have was advanced armour, weaponry and metalworking skills, and they also had more horses than anyone else, which was effectively a military superweapon. Just so people realise, the East had cities, but it didn't mean the West was grubbing in the dirt, barely existing, they had a different way of life more based on herding cattle and horses, metallurgy and, as always, Europeans have been masters of war. When the proto-Celtic Naue II or "grip-tongue" sword made it to the East, the late bronze age collapse was upon them. Its use and the new tactics with it decimated the Mycenaean, Egyptian, Hittite, and Assyrian empires, in the hands of Mediterranean Sea Peoples.

so did they find a sign saying welcome's to the city of troy populatin####

My retired Army father had so many puns. One of them was referring to Homer's writings as "The Idiot and The Oddity". Did anyone else hear their dads saying things like that?

@antonibalasz1522

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@lindalee7322

3 жыл бұрын

@@antonibalasz1522 Hi, Toni. LOL Had you ever heard that pun before?

@antonibalasz1522

3 жыл бұрын

@@lindalee7322 Nope but that sounds funny to me

@stargo2931

3 жыл бұрын

My dad said " Battle Axe" a lot... I used to think it was a swear word.

@lindalee7322

3 жыл бұрын

@@antonibalasz1522 LOL I agree. He'd even draw a simple image and tell me a pun that went with the sketch. I remember all of them. My Dad was also my mentor. I have been passing everything on to my son. This includes thinking outside the box to accomplish things. I miss my Dad.

Amazing all the things the narrator attributes to Homer and he Iliad...Maybe the narrator and the screenwriter should have read the book first.

@ernestchadwell9069

9 ай бұрын

He's talking about the uncensored origin Greek.

First seek our father in heaven and his justice and everything will be added godbless

@user-oy1ws3cr4d

9 күн бұрын

Ха-ха-ха!🤣

İ was hoping the Trojan horse will be found 😅

@stargo2931

3 жыл бұрын

But they found a few used condom wrappers, I think the box said Trojan.🤣

@chehboubhoussam6003

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@tommychong3588

3 жыл бұрын

I got a Trojan for you baby magnums a whole box with your name on it yea yea

@wolfpack2210

3 жыл бұрын

Tommy Chong and comment section has gotten immature

@stargo2931

3 жыл бұрын

@Libby Berman I was goofing around....🤣

O cavalo 🐴 não aparece na narrativa de Homero.

It's not lost. It's a suburb of Detroit, which is just a little like being lost.

@paulmiddleton4215

11 ай бұрын

could be, Troy was ransacked many times, much like Detroit

I really need time machine

BlackPink in your area!

@paulsalvio1529

3 жыл бұрын

@A cup of BTS everyday omg. how you like that? haha

What if the gold that was discovered was just old heirlooms in the vault?

Maurico Druon, secretary of the French Academy: "Albanians belonging to those people older than History itself. Albanian grandparents participated in the war of Troy, led by Achilles (on one side) and Hector (the other side) ". Troy was a battle between North Albanians/ Illyrians Gheg und South Albanians/Pelasgians Tosk. Helen was never the reason! There were some religious conflicts between Illyrians and Pelasgians. Troy was not a city, but a region with 12 communities in North Albania. You find all the myths of that time stamped on the North Albanian folkloric costumes.

@illyricum701

24 күн бұрын

Correct. Troyans are northern (dardania,kosovo,macedonia)

@user-oy1ws3cr4d

9 күн бұрын

Как,бы не так!!!Ваши народы_это,поздние"народы моря",разрушившие Хеттскую империю!С троянцами,у вас нет ничего общего!Антропология, и гаплогруппы,это показывают!

@user-oy1ws3cr4d

9 күн бұрын

Как бы не так!!!Ваши народы_это,пришлые"народы моря",разрушившие Хеттскую державу!С троянцами,у вас нет ничего общего!Антропология и гаплогруппы,это показывают!Не сочиняйте!

too many adds. be reasonable pls next time

The Iliad was originally performed on stage by actors? That's a new one. Rhapsodic performance is not the same as stage performance.

Aww it's the age-old scene of dudes in bar fight over a chick... Timeless traditions will never die out I guess.... I wonder would the war have even happened if Paris had just told Menelaus, "don't hate the player... Hate the game?"

@pkmixestr5145

3 жыл бұрын

The greeks wanted troy for years helen was just the perfect reason to make a war because with no reason you cant make a war Agamemnon wanted troy and menelaos just his wife but maybe he dint care maybe he just wanted the war also

based on the observable, measurable and visible evidence what city, according to the nay sayers, is it then ?

@user-oy1ws3cr4d

9 күн бұрын

У троянцев,было много городов,в разных местах Турции!И,жили они,не только в Трое!

If cities were seen by archaeologists it doesn't mean they are subject to revival.

It's not much of a leap to guess what Troy exported. Horses.

@TheNimshew

3 жыл бұрын

@Songs Mirth Why? Was there an excessive tax on Alfalfa in 1500 BCE? (If they had attained it by then) Asia Minor is horse country, I think. The Trojans worshipped the horse and were tricked by hollow idolatry.

The premise of this episode is dodgy to say the least. Hisarlik has been accepted as the site of ancient Troy for at least the last one hundred years, a few alternate sites championed by self-serving skeptics notwithstanding. Too, the trope that Homer's tale could not have reflected anything resembling the actual events as they took place on the ground has been debunked, not in toto of course, but at least in significant part. The narrative of this show -- that if you accept Hisarlik as Troy then you must accept everything in Homer as fact, is rubbish, laughed at by scholars but motivation for producers of a television show attempting to manufacture controversy (designed of course to lure viewers). They really indulge in some serious stupidity -- where are the Trojan royal tombs, etc . . . And most of the discoveries that they imply are quite recent and that they reluctantly allow solidifies Hisarlik's identification as Troy were made decades ago, a truly childish form of manipulation. But then television will never be mistaken for scholarship . . . Cheers!

@ASHKUM-uw2qg

3 жыл бұрын

Greeks or Trojans never buried their dead; they burned them on funeral pyre. Hence tombs are not to be found. Since Hissarlik is just another coastal town of Greek civilization, and several archaeological founds strongly indicate it to be Troy is not far from truth. Until Homer the Trojan war passed from generation to generation orally, He was the first scholar who wrote it in letters. He being first to compose 700 years after the Trojan war does not mean it was just a fictional story, though it may not be exactly the same what happened actually.

@lilithwilcox9074

Жыл бұрын

Mainstream? I trust mainstream as far as I can throw them.

Isnt it concerned with hitits tribal kingdom because those people were there for thousands of years and had some relationship with hurrians in babylonian of mesopotamia and these people who goverend mesopotamia 200 years some thimes attacked even to egypt and syria which is close to this area.

In my opinion, salaak if translated in English means Troy..

Illinois

PARISI AND HELEN UNITED !!

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Makes sense the treasure he found wasn't Troy's, the greeks would have pillaged it

Homer did not WRITE the Illiad. If Homer ever existed, he started an oral tradition. The song was written down much later. This is annoying.........

Hey guys, I've got this giant horse statue... Do you want it? You can have it for free, it's a peace offering.

If only they could find some graffiti that said, “Achilles was here”. That would pretty much settle things.

Where is the city dump? There always is a dump...

generational paradigms like this happen in every field of life. They've done the same with exodus all built on a foundation of mistakes and wrong chronology. Its paradigms in biology geology evolution you name it. Even in everyday life.

@masada2828

11 ай бұрын

The Exodus has the correct chronology, 1445 BC but not all agree. It’s quite easy to figure, 480 from the building of the first Temple of 965 BC.

Myths are mostly memories...

@masada2828

11 ай бұрын

Myths are built on fact.

They named a condom after his story

Apostole Paul mention Troy.The angel told him to gross over to Macedonia.He was standing in the side of Troy and gross from there to Neapolis where is the of Calamata is.Read the missionary journey of Paul.

@masada2828

11 ай бұрын

Troas.

The "Experts" weren't Experts, we're they? A Doubting Thomas in every walk of life.

it is all true

my name is troy 🙂

The city of Troy existed but it was not the one of the Troyan War. It actually happened in Mylitos , some 400 km south of Troy. The story was narrated 500 years later by Homer and was written as a story to be narrated in front of the public. The war started for many women slaves taken from Mylitos and forced to work for Mycynae on thd Peloponese

Paul in the Bible's New Testament mentions Troy's location twice in Acts 16.

Is it real? I went there. That made it obvious.

Troy must have been a strategic location that could have controlled the entrance od the Dardanelles straight able to tax ships passing through. Hence it would make perfect sense for Agamemnon to use the abduction of Helen to declare war against them in the pretext of saving their honour. It was the excuse they needed.

Troy is in New York, I found it on the map the other day. LOL !

@wisediva9807

3 жыл бұрын

Foreal ?

@sgonzo5572

3 жыл бұрын

My friene hector was there

@ozguratlas697

3 жыл бұрын

I have been Troy in NY too..Near capital of NY .

@adnanbinabdullah9615

4 ай бұрын

😅😅😅this guy was thinking only US is the world..does he realise that name of places in USA came from all other places in Europe n the Old World??

Of course Homer's story is correct. Believe Homer.

genesis chapter 6 . been there , no man did this

This bronze is like gold butter. Its quite different hmm. Real different like magical. PADRO SARMIENTO DE GAMBOA my ancestor was accused of magic metal. HMMMM

Trojans is 🇹🇷💪☝️

That looks like a traditional Armenian Women's head dress .. and Armenia has sites dating older than Troy

TROY = TURUL (T.R.Y. = T.R.L.) Turul is the bird emblem (falcon) in Hungary. Troyan people = hungarian (or scythian) people. Hungarian folk is the most ancient folk in the world. Scythian = sumer = parthian = celtic = etruscan = kushitan = hungarian. Jesus and Maria are scythian (notedly parthian) people. Hector = Viktor

@masada2828

11 ай бұрын

Jesus is a Jew. Abraham is Semitic from Ur of the Chaldeans, & a descendant of Shem.

@user-oy1ws3cr4d

9 күн бұрын

Заболтался!😂

Sliman find another ancient city, not the Troe. Homer has hide it very well and we are the blind men.