laura bailey improvised the "if i could pull the blood of you from my veins" line and its so raw i love laura, its even more raw in the campaing in my opinion

@sarabeth6897

Жыл бұрын

I cry every time I watch that line in the stream episode. I kinda wish it was as potent here as in stream.

@Thurrak

Жыл бұрын

I actually wish she had said it to her fathers face in the show but I am glad she still said it.

@hakulives2613

Жыл бұрын

There were SO MANY lines direct from the campaign in this one: Percy and Vex's conversation about whether she looks like nobility, Percy titling her, pretty much ALL of her conversation with Saundor, and probably more! Seriously, these guys are SO GOOD at improv!

@testfire3000

Жыл бұрын

That is one of the many things I love about Critical Role. Unlike any other TV series you might see, the *entire* show is improv. I think the only pre-scripted lines are a few by Matt preparing his encounters; and Sam said near the end of Campaign One that he would try to come up with some of his silly Scanlan songs listening to the radio on the drive over to the game.

@cryofpaine

Жыл бұрын

@@Thurrak I know so many people have said that. I don't think it would have worked as well here. In the campaign, Sondor wasn't a complete ass. He admitted his bigotry and claimed to try and fight it. He accepted Vex's title, and even had the decency to be a bit chagrined. But here, they've made him an unrepentant asshole. Her saying that to him wouldn't have had any impact on him. You saw how he immediately gave Percy the respect due to his station, because that's one thing he respects - nobility. But even nobility wasn't enough to gain Sondor's respect when it came to Vex. Also Vex wasn't ready to admit it yet. She is still trying to gain his approval. She still thinks she can do something to gain his love. "He is who he's always been." "I know, and so am I." That's why she doesn't go back to show him the bow, because she knows she has to get past her need for his approval before she can confront him.

I love that it is the seemingly kind "Stepmother", that seems to actually be happy to see the twins, and the Father is the evil Witch ^^

@testfire3000

Жыл бұрын

Hahahaha, when you put it like that...

@rogue7723

Жыл бұрын

Which begs the question: _how and why the hell_ did she ever marry this asshole?

@testfire3000

Жыл бұрын

​@@rogue7723 The stepmother is full Elf, therefore part of the established culture. He probably isn't a schmo to her.

@yiklongtay6029

Жыл бұрын

She's still a bit of a doormat

@ZephyrBW

10 ай бұрын

Doormat meaning

A bit of non spoiler lore on Saundor, he is an Archfey who's lover abandoned him, in his despair he became corrupted. His corruption spread throughout the forest. Now he spends all his power trying to lure in potential lovers to replace her.

@testfire3000

Жыл бұрын

That was a truly horrible story, making him even more despicable that this show could convey. But sadly they had to cut a lot of the Feywild story to make it fit.

@cryofpaine

Жыл бұрын

@@testfire3000 Honestly, I'm glad they cut it. He doesn't need a "tragic" backstory, and with the way that he's portrayed here, it would have come across as kind of excusing an abuser. That line after she rejects him is classic abusive narcissist, which is the vibe they seemed to be going for.

@testfire3000

Жыл бұрын

@@cryofpaine Yes, this did a great job of pushing all the buttons as a serious abuser. "my dear broken Vex'ahlia". WTF that is supposed to be a come-on line?

@AnxietyRat

Жыл бұрын

@@testfire3000 it's a line directly from the campaign...so only Matt knows why he beckoned Vex by calling her broken. 🤷‍♀️

@testfire3000

Жыл бұрын

@@AnxietyRat Oh yeah, there are a lot of lines direct from the live game. Clearly Matt had Saundor as the super-fucked-up version of the abusive toxic masculinity asshole, but without saying it as such. I think it is great how he is able to work "life lessons" into the game without seeming like "on a very special episode of Critical Role". It is just how they play the game and I love it.

Fun little thing, as Scanlan is "giving" Grog his pill, he's whistling "Pull My Beads of Love." Also, that "pull his blood from my veins" was improvised in the show by Laura. So many great lines improvised by the cast.

He wasn't lying about the pixies. In the campaign the pixies put up quite a difficult challenge.

@smashbrandiscootch719

Жыл бұрын

5e pixies are TERRIFYING!

@laurahart1337

Жыл бұрын

Wasn’t there a moment where Percy created a note to the Pixies b/c they were trying to rest? It’s been so long and all I can picture is him saying “we’re napping”

@gabthegreat01

Жыл бұрын

At least it gave us a funny Travis moment! When grog got petrified he held his pose for a solid 5mins! That’s dedication right there

@tristanmilner9511

Жыл бұрын

"little bitches." -Fearne Calloway

@bookwormwithwings

Жыл бұрын

That was one of my favorite fights, I get why they had to skip it but man that was wild.

Percy in the campaign was always creating things for Vex. It was a nice touch to have him do it in that moment.❤

To explain why her father took them from the mother when he had no love was because someone ELSE from Syngorn discovered that the existence of the children. If he did not bring the children to the city and give them elven education, he would have to live with the shame of siring children who didn’t live up to elven standards. Syldor has always been motivated by the fear of shame upon his reputation.

@ZephyrBW

10 ай бұрын

So pretty much just pure selfishness through and through

@Kayta-Linda

2 ай бұрын

Ok, yeah… makes sense. Classic elf stuff. Why did he even have them though if it’s so important? Kinda seems like a really stupid oversight. Like… stop banging humans, man, it’s not that hard.

That episode was basically a couples weekend in the fey realm 😉

This episode hit me in the feels, and it was this part of the campaign that I knew Percy and Vex were my favorite’s. This is a Perc’ahlia episode most definitely. I not only love the interactions between Percy & Vex, but I love how they referenced how Percy’s early signs of affection to Vex were to give her overpowered arrows. Someone also pointed out how after killing Saundor, Vex picks up Percy’s gift before she picks up the bow she thought she needed to get her dads love. Indicating that she valued Percy’s affection more than the bow her dad put so much stock in for her respect. There were a lot of great quotes from Vex/Laura during this part of the story, but what I loved about the “My heart is someone else’s” is because it’s when Vex stopped putting value in things like her father did. She got the bow because it didn’t matter if she got it or not, it was the people in her life who mattered more. I also loved that Percy giving Vex a title was to call out Syldor on his BS. Both in the campaign and the show, Talisine noticed how his title got him more respect from Syldor than his childrens accomplishments. He was telling Syldor that Percy didn’t think he deserve the respect of a noble because of how he treated his children, especially Vex. In the campaign Syldor was a bit more humbled, but I like it better here that Syldor tries to save face by requiring the bow as proof of Vex’s worth. But it’s knowing that Percy values her that gives her the strength to fight back against her dad.

@cryofpaine

Жыл бұрын

100%. I loved that they didn't try to make him at all sympathetic here. Didn't show any sign of repentance. It's also why moving Vex's line about pulling his blood from her veins wouldn't have worked as well to his face. She wasn't ready to say it, at least not to him, and he definitely wasn't ready to hear it.

@MsMorri

Жыл бұрын

@@cryofpaine I think what hurts more about that line is I think Vex actually liked the elven culture, at least at first. I think that's partly why she tried so hard for her dad to be an "elf". I think what also hurts is it's implied in the campaign and Kith & Kin that Syldor actually had some affection or love for their mother. It was just them he seemed to have a problem with.

that moment in the campaign when Taliesin drops that title was SUCH a moment, especially Travis absolutely LOOSING it on the side because he ships his wifes pretend romance so much, he IS the captain of the MS Perc'halia

@cryofpaine

Жыл бұрын

That's one thing where the campaign is superior to the series. I love the series, but seeing the cast reactions to those moments is part of the fun. There are so many moments that I'm sure will be great, but will feel a bit lacking without that iconic player response. Tub, hut, avocado (NO SPOILERS) - I can't imagine those moments without seeing the cast lose their minds.

@ginster458

Жыл бұрын

@@cryofpaine honestly there are a lot of things both mediums can do a lot better than the other, because they're just so different. But yeah, seeing themall react together is very much one of my favorite parts :)

It was awesome to get Henry Winkler as Pike’s Pop-Pop!

@cryofpaine

Жыл бұрын

The entire cast has been so great across both seasons, but his performance really stands out. It was pure perfection.

Keyleth's Fire Elemental + Tree Stride combo was pulled directly from the campaign. It was the best spell combo use I had ever seen.

Vex and Vax saw their sister and immediately decided she`s THEIR girl :3333 I love how you`ve noticed (and you`re the only one I`ve seen to do it) how Percy is more comfortable now with his high status and how he`s using it. Respect. And how you`re analyzing the dynamic between Syldor, Percy and the twins. Amazing.

@ForeverDegenerate

Жыл бұрын

"Percy is more comfortable now with his high status and how he`s using it." I think it's less that he's comfortable with it more that he has it back. I don't think he was ever uncomfortable being a De Rolo. In fact, I think it's the exact opposite. I think he loves being a De Rolo and he's very proud of the fact that he IS a De Rolo. Remember, up until Vox Machina killed Sylas and Delilah, Percy had lost his Societal Status, mostly because he avoided it as he felt, rightfully so, that it would put a target on his back. But Whitestone is his again and the murderers of his family are dead, so he no longer has to hide who he is.

That is Keyleth's fire elemental form. Learning the forms of each element is part of her trials. She also used her tree stride spell, portalling from one to the other, to burn them both from the inside. As for satyr's true form... he's an archfey, and you'll be seeing him again. And then a lot more...

@DietPropharah

2 ай бұрын

I hear he gets around alot🗿

@RoxyGotMoxy.

Ай бұрын

​@@DietPropharahhe likes to...travel.

It legitimately looked like Trent was ready to fight Syldor when he was shooting on the twins.😂 Love the honesty, humor, and hard work in your videos!❤

They haven't gone into much detail yet on the twins' life with their mother, but you know from the way they are with their sister, and the way they are with Vox Machina, that she taught them the value in family before they left her. Because they certainly didn't learn it from their dad.

Fun fact: Garmillie is voiced by Billy Boyd, aka Pippin from The Lord Of The Rings movies

Syldor is one of the worst dads in CR (not THE worst, I don't think, but up there). the best part of Vex, tearfully "if I could pull your blood from my veins and give it back I would" is that it's from the original stream. meaning it's 100% improvised. As were a lot of the moments in this episode between Percy and Vex

@cobaltsable1800

Жыл бұрын

I agree. I think Beau and Tary had worse, but definitely Syldor is up there

@mgormley7530

Жыл бұрын

@Cobalt Sable those were the two I was thinking of, yeah. According to one of the novels, Molly's dad was also pretty terrible. Must be a wildmount thing

@flaminyawn

Жыл бұрын

@@mgormley7530 Lucien had the double-whammy that BOTH of his parents were awful.

At first I wasn't sure about the moment where Percy gave Vex the title, because it didn't have the same punch as the campaign. But after rewatching it, I like it more now because it gets Vex to fight back against her Dad and to stop trying to keep the peace.

@Thurrak

Жыл бұрын

I think it feels bigger on stream because it was a live audience and everyone kind of went wild. The show is definitely more realistic.

@ForeverDegenerate

Жыл бұрын

@Coda Gaming @Myerz9 The difference here is in the portrayal of Syldor. Syldor in the Animated Series is quite different to Syldor in the Campaign. In the Campaign, Syldor actually accepted the title and was actually, slightly proud of Vex for having "earned" that title. In the Animated Series, Syldor didn't give a shit because he saw right through the fact that Percy made that shit up on the spot. Also, Syldor in the Campaign actually admitted how much of a bigot he was and that he was trying to do better whereas Syldor in the Animated Series is just a pure unrepentant asshole. I think the impact was heavy in both mediums, but because in the Campaign, the impact was on "the bad guy" whereas in the Animated Series, the impact was on "the hero," it felt more visceral in the Campaign because smacking the bad guy around always feels more visceral than giving the hero the inspiration they need. Personally, I think turning the "title" moment into more of a motivation and inspiration for Vex to outright say "FUCK YOU" to her Father hit a lot harder then Percy merely knocking Syldor down a peg. Also, it led to the great line from Vex of, "We will not fail! And that's more than I can say about you as a Father!" I don't know if she said that in the Campaign, but in the Animated Series it felt like that came out purely because the "title" moment was turned into motivation for Vex.

@JulianCommodus

Жыл бұрын

@@ForeverDegenerate Taliesin may have made up the title, but Percy did not; the title was real, as was the Grey Hunt, and Percy was of the station to assign it. Taliesin and Matt may have cobbled some explanations retrospectively, but, to Percy, it's part of his home's laws and his responsibility as a noble. And, no: Vex didn't say that to Syldor in the campaign, but she was MUCH more obvious with her distain for Syldor, and said far worse things. Vax was actually the more.. civil one.

@ForeverDegenerate

Жыл бұрын

@@JulianCommodus Oh I know all that stuff regarding Percy. Still doesn't change the fact that both Percy and Taliesin gave Vex the title for the express purpose of shoving it into Syldor's smug face. And I still think it makes sense for Syldor to see right through Percy and call him on that. Especially "unrepentant asshole" Syldor.

@JulianCommodus

Жыл бұрын

@@ForeverDegenerate It's only seeing through it if the title was actually meaningless; unfortunately for Syldor, Percy has a higher station than Syldor and the ability to elevate whomever he choses to nobility, as long as the charge has the skills and connections required, which, thanks to Percy, Vex does. Regardless of the reasons, he may have called him on it, but he made a bad call. It's not calling a bluff when Percy actually holds the cards.

This was another terrific episode. That comparison between the family dynamic of Pike/Grog/Pop-Pop on one end of the spectrum and Vex/Vax/Asshole Dad on the other. I was worried when they split the group, yet it brings us some really great storytelling moments like this. In the campaign, the team was not split and it was in Syngorn that Grog misheard "good day" as "bidet".

@cryofpaine

Жыл бұрын

I was wondering why they moved that to Vasselheim. Now it makes sense. Splitting the party was a good way of keeping the story moving. With such a big group, there are usually characters who are just there, but don't contribute much. This lets them show two story arcs at once. I love that they're not scared to change things up from the campaign.

@testfire3000

Жыл бұрын

@@cryofpaine Indeed! And with the opportunity to show the different families and then at the same time cover important story territory they are saving a lot of time. Trust me, I *wish* they had a season of hour long episodes with 20+ episodes per season. LOL. I don't want to miss anything! (Remember in the Feywild, when they came across a Syngorn guard and a werewolf dancing around a campfire? That would have made a fun B-plot in an episode.)

As much as the twins hate their father, they adore their half-sister, or (as they say in the show) their sister. The live version of Percy dropping the title on Syldor is the biggest flex. You can hear that Percy planned for it, and he meant it to slap the arrogance out of Syldor.

@heatherc.7706

Жыл бұрын

One thing i love about it is -- while im not sure if Syldor knows enough about Whitestone's history to know this (he might! that kind of thing IS his job after all) -- he's right that it's a fairly meaningless title. Basically a courtesy title given to a close ally of the De Rolos (and later the Briarwoods). But like the Princedom (Principality?) of Wales, it wasn't *always* a meaningless title. And Vex is the perfect person to revive it.

@JulianCommodus

Жыл бұрын

@@heatherc.7706 Baroness of the Third House of Whitestone might have been more of a symbolic title. Mistress of the Grey Hunt is not.

I love how engaged you are with the show! Great reaction

Percy and Vex have my whole heart

18:07 "What are you?" No one of consequence. He's fellow traveler. That's all you need... for now.

The action sequences in this show are SO good! Not just because they're cool, but because at NO point is it ever unclear what's happening. So many action scenes in shows, animated AND live action, seem to sacrifice clarity for flash, and the story stops while fights are happening. But every action scene in this show is easy to follow AND furthers the story of each character in the scene. It doesn't feel like filler, none of the fight scenes could be removed without sacrificing story. The contrasts in this episode are beautiful. The twins' father who won't accept them because they are half elves, vs Wilhand who takes big ol boi Grog into his home like family. Percy telling Vex she's worth more than any noble, giving her a title because it matters to HER, not him or her father, and taking the time to make her a gift she would really appreciate (and with genuinely no expectation of anything in return), vs Sondor's "Poor, broken Vex'halia" and turning on a dime when she rejects him and his "terms". Also Vex with "how dare you speak to him like that" calling back to Vax saying the same thing to their father in her defense in the episode 3 flashback. Also, twig dick fighting Vex one on one, isolating her and destroying her weapons, with an entire bog that answers to his command, AND a vestige, knocking her down until she has nothing, and she still kicks his ass. Love that for her. Garmelie is ...a lot. Some threads are longer than others. The "boo bees" tshirt took me WAY too long to get *laughing facepalm* sorry for the ramble but I have FEELS.

Keyleth’s finishing move was ripped right out of the campaign! It was easily one of her best moments!

Always great insights ❤️

So i dont know if you guys realize how truly epic keyleths kill on those two trees was. The animation is fast. But she turns into a fire elemental... then uses tree stride which is the teleportation move she uses to walk vox machina through one tree and out another. So she turns into a fire ball then enters one tree and exits out the other. Completely engulfing both in flame. Marisha is amazing. Shes a genius at D&D.

So, Garmelie is actually another Arch Fey like Saundor, though Saundor is very damaged.

the "Nice melons" I think is a Lord of the Rings reference. Someone saying "Mellon" when they enter the elven city.

One of my favorite Garmielie drawing descriptions in the stream was one he did of drugged out Keyleth hugging a tree and the disgusted tree actively trying to shove her off He also did caricatures of Grog, who didn't understand and assumed that there was a whole herd of misshapen half-giants running around the fey realm

@FandomZone

Жыл бұрын

🤣this is why we love Grog

Ah, yes... Vox Machina vs. The Incel Tree. Also, I found a very fitting comparison for the previous episode: Percy is like that one person who watches anime religiously and is then disappointed when they visit Japan. Also-also: In the campaign, Syldor is also a massive prick (not literally) but he actually acknowledges "Lady" Vex'ahlia and amends the title. Plus, he does tell the twins: "if it turns out to be dangerous, run. Be safe. We need survivours, not heroes."

@senorelroboto2

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, Syldor is more nuanced than what you see in this one episode.

So Laura (Vex) is married to Travis (Grog) and it's funny because Travis was the biggest shipper of Percy and Vex out of anyone on the cast lmao

@Jeffjway

Жыл бұрын

I always felt he wanted some of the love too in the end, thus resulting in Tusk Love

@ZephyrBW

10 ай бұрын

He is

Saundor’s like _the opposite_ of Percy in regards to their relationship with Vex. Percy seems closed off and stuck up but is actually quite noble and he _builds Vex up_ with his words and actions, but ultimately believes Vex can do it herself while Saundor tries to be kind but is actually selfish and manipulative and tries to woo Vex by making her believe she’s somehow lost and broken and only he can “fix her”.

I have a feeling that Percy's line "just be a bit of a shit" comes from the group's original name: The Shits, before Vox Machina was officially decided on

For Vex and Vax, they grew up with their mother in a small town called Byroden. It's a very small warm community with no a lot of prospects. Their Dad came back to bring them to grow up in Syngorn because that city had more education, prospects, and the potential of a better future. That is why their mother agrees to let them go. Also, since Vex and Vax are half elves they would outlive everyone in their town. Unfortunately, Syngorn as a city and their father are prejudicial toward half-elves. Vax realized it was all unfair but Vex tried to be 2x as good just to get minimal approval. Eventually they run away, sorry for the ramble I love the twins backstory!

@FandomZone

Жыл бұрын

Never be sorry for a ramble! Love seeing info on backstory

Now that you've seen this episode, give this a listen! 😃 It contains no spoilers apart from this episode but, the rest of the musical will so, don't skip ahead. kzread.info/dash/bejne/hJOos9dyaca7fJc.html

If you want to learn Percy's full name, be advised that he NEVER pronounces the Klossowski part correctly. Like never. It's either Kowalski or Kolloski. I know it's because Taliesin had trouble rattling off the name, but it's my head canon that he's intentionally disrespecting that branch of his family.

I don't know if they'll go into Saundor's history, but in case they don't... I can't quite remember the circumstances, but either he was rejected or his lover betrayed him somehow. Either way, it embittered him and his pain corrupted the Shademurk, which didn't used to be covered in goo. He's a horrid manipulator though, and acts like an incel, so he gets no pity from me.

@JirkaKunst

Жыл бұрын

I am so sad and disappointed they never used Percy's most famous quote regarding the bog.

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Don't worry too much about Garmelie's true form. It's an easter egg for us Mighty Nein/campaign 2 fans.

@DisneyLover258

Жыл бұрын

I mean...it happened in show at that point too. But when he said "you won't see Garmelie again" he meant that in the campaign because the next time we see him is his true weaselly face rather than just to go home. But...more Billy Boyd is appreciated.

Leo tittle promo video react 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

Just wanna spit a fact and run. Trent's hot. Bye