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What a lovely take on Tunic! The only bummer about finishing a Transparency video is having to wait for the next one!

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

I know, right?

@maxwwellhu8098

2 жыл бұрын

In an interview with one of the developers, he said something along the lines of him being unsure, and it being a one shot thing.

After seeing this, Tunic has officially been put onto my ever-growing list of "I need to play this right now" games. 😄

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

Totally worth that time!

OK, I absolutely loved how you dance around spoilers and intrigue to attract new players. Even the spoiler bit was presented so quickly, I bet many won't understand anything from it (which would be bad, of course - don't watch spoilers if you aren't sure you're completely done with the game!!!)

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

We were very mindful of how we presented the game here, a lot of work went into that for sure. We think this is just one of those games that you should go into as blind as possible. It's simply a delight to figure everything out, and we wouldn't want to rob anyone of that experience! Truly magical stuff :)

Can't believe they showed Link's fursona.

@glayiexile

2 жыл бұрын

If this is Link's fursona then what's the deal with Twilight Princess?

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

In that one he literally becomes a wolf from dark magic, this one he choose himself. It's the same thing with the rabbit he turns into when entering the Dark World in A Link to the Past, it simply doesn't count.

@juststatedtheobvious9633

2 жыл бұрын

@@Transparencyboo They aren't even the same Link. And I refuse to ignore the pudgy hero with the pink hair who, when entering the dark mirror world, had the soul of a cute bunny rabbit. The fox is just NES Link's fursona. Now he won't have to play a flawed Master System game for his psycho fox adventure.

Well damn that sounds like it would absolutely be up my alley. Love me a good Brainveinia.

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

You should totally give it a go, it's brilliant honestly.

@larsnyman2455

2 жыл бұрын

I love how the spelling is not derivative of “Castlevania” but of Code:Vein. Or like, the blood vessel kind of vein. Or the idiom of something being “in the vein” of another thing Or something else I haven’t thought of

A wonderful detailed breakdown! Tunic will stay with me for a very long time.

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

For sure! It's just one of those games that we instantly knew we had to talk about.

Alright, this was one of those games I was on the fence about because I didn't know if the experience would be much different than other similar types of games, but you've convinced me to try it out

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

Hope you'll enjoy it!

I love this game, and as you discussed I'm actually quite interested to see how they handle the inevitable physical release of this game. Will they package it with no manual and give the option for fans to buy a manual separate after they've completed it and want the physical relic? Or will it be the first game that comes packaged with a manual and a notice in the case stating "DO NOT READ THIS MANUAL UNTIL YOU HAVE FINISHED THE GAME. NO PEEKING, BUB". Excellent video!

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

Either way we're probably gonna buy it, let's be real, haha!

@johnsimon8457

2 жыл бұрын

if they do ship a printed manual it should be in a sealed envelope with a printed sticker of the fox giving you a disapproving look - "Don't you dare!"

@booketoiles1600

Жыл бұрын

Each page is separated and you have to assemble the manual yourself as you unlock pages in the game

@fransiscofranco641

Жыл бұрын

Late, but I think it would be awesome if you assembled the manual yourself from a binder and had to get the individual physical pages by opening little boxes with codes you find on the in-game pages.

@eleven9286

Жыл бұрын

They haven't put manuals with games for years

Tunic is currently my favorite game of all time. I loved it dearly. There's a book of graph paper in my living room that will forever be my "Tunic Scratchbook". Shoutouts to anyone else who also translated the manual. Like no other game ever made, I wish I could forget everything I know about this game and play it again. All I can do is live vicariously through a friend's playthrough.

Videos like this are another reason why success cannot ever be measured by "watch time" alone. I am going to stop watching now and play Tunic at a later date, because what you've discussed so far persuaded me to go in as unspoiled as possible. It sounds like a downright magical experience. And I'd call that a pretty successful video review, even if I haven't seen all of it yet!

@BardianAngel

2 жыл бұрын

I am jealous of you. Because you have tunic ahead of you. I hope you enjoy it, it's an incredible experience.

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, glad it inspired you to play it at some point! Hope you enjoy it :)

"Until you find something of note" *GETS RECORDER* This pun struck a chord with me.

hitting the pause button on this half way through - just beat the Garden Knight - even though you’re intentionally not spoiling, even the item list is too much for me! 😉 One thing, I love how the fox’s head turns to look at things that aren’t always visible to the player. Pointy head is literally an arrow!

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

Hope you enjoy the rest of it!

@johnsimon8457

2 жыл бұрын

Ha! Done! Got bad ending, and spoiled myself for the good one... I keep thinking about how some of these games are like "Here's a bunch of machine parts, and eventually figure out that your goal is to assemble a rocket that'll take you to the moon." The manual only provides a description of those parts and an acceptable solution is really up to you. kzread.info/dash/bejne/kWikpdFrqLG2f6g.html here's a review of legacy of the wizard / dragon slayer iv on NES and it's also in that same vein. I hear Hydlide is also part of that old school japanese computer game open world tradition. One thing I like more about Tunic is that it's scale isn't all that large, I was basically able to complete it in 18 hours - it's not like BOTW or Elden Ring where you can throw dozens of hours into it and still feel like you're only chipping away at an end goal.

I loved Tunic's style, and adored the mechanics of the manual. I wish I hadn't found the combat and puzzle solving as frustrating as I did. A great game that I bounced off of. But I do think everyone should try it.

This video obligated me to start playing Tunic, right after the Brainvania definition was set among those other gems that changed my way of seeing games. I thought "Ok, i'll pause this video and play it". And here I am, after tasting everything (everything..?) the game could offer, I can see the rest of the video in peace and agree with every single word. Thank you very much ❤

TUNIC will likely be my game of the year! The sheer exciment and wonder i felt when putting the pieces together is an unrivalled experience for me. Its visual style is simple but absolutely gorgeous and an inspiration of mine. Great video! I hope more people check out this gem

@Transparencyboo

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

I played Legend of Zelda when it was new (yes, im old.) People forget how advanced it was. It could save games! something unheard of at the time. It was huge! it had a bunch of different places. Link advanced with equipment. It had a money and retail system. ALL things we take for granted today.

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

It's really a work of beauty.

@juststatedtheobvious9633

2 жыл бұрын

@@Transparencyboo I wish more games embraced the combat. That laser sword is one of the most overpowered starting weapons in all of gaming. And that "one hit and it's a survival horror" is such a genius compression/expansion of the power trip/vulnerability dynamic seen in Gradius and R-type. Especially all the ways it provides to recover from a mistake. You're never screwed - you're always given a choice to farm easy enemies for hearts and rupees, purchase medicine, or risk the trip to a fairy fountain. Or to return to your safe starting screen, and explore a different part of the map. It's why I could never get into Neutopia or Golden Axe Warrior. They lack that extra layer of psychology - it's a surface level reading of their inspiration.

While the original Zelda isn't my most favorite 2D Zelda game ever (that honor goes to Adventure of Link lmao) I still hold it in very high regard for exactly the reasons you laid out here. Mechanically sure it's a bit clumsy, a bit obtuse to get into the groove of, but it absolutely holds up when taken into the context of when it came out and how it was expected to be played back in the 1980s. I played it first on emulator back in the early 2000s, grabbed a physical copy soon after, and have digital versions on my 3DS, and I've beaten every one on both quests. That's not the kind of dedication just ANY game demands I don't think, lol. I think my favorite "secret" about Zelda 1 is how it paces its tempo with your progress. Whenever you defeat a certain amount of enemies in a row without taking damage, depending on what those enemies are, you get certain item drops, most valuable fairies and blue rupees. Of course this is difficult to do early on when your shield can only block rocks and your sword is made of wood... but consider your sword progress is tied to your hearts. Get more hearts (ie explore more and do more dungeons), get better swords. Get better swords, defeat enemies more efficiently, which gets you exponentially more rewards, so you can afford things such as the magic shield, the Blue Ring, more liberally use your arrows for swifter long range attacks, afford bomb upgrades, etc. It's a fucking thing of beauty I never see anyone remark on! Its the most "grow stronger as your adventure progresses" system ever without ever actually neutering the challenge of the game in doing so lol.

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

I think a lot of people sadly jump into these games without being prepared for them, because like you say the context is quite important and I do believe that you kind of have to give them the time they deserve. Thanks for the thoughtful comment, I really was excited to read that your favorite one was Adventure of Link, because that is just rad!

@CappnRob

2 жыл бұрын

@@Transparencyboo Picking a favorite Zelda can often be like picking a favorite child in a way, but to date nothing has matched the sheer physical satisfaction of how tight Zelda 2 feels to play. Some of the best side scrolling platform action ever programmed on any console. And yeah, older games do require a certain mindset to get into and fully appreciate because of their in-game limitations. Like for example, the original Fire Emblem on the Famicom didn't list weapon statistics in game - you had to consult the manual to know which weapon did what lol.

My brain veins feel nicely exercised as a result of the unique perspective you both bring to one of my favorite games this year. Great work as always!

Its funny how this video came out just around the time of a discussion i had with a friend about practically the same thing, just using different examples. I was waxing nostalgic about game manuals, how I first started drawing was by copying the illustrations in the manuals of my favorite games (and now I have an art degree!) and along the way it was brought up that even digital manuals are starting to go the way of the dodo and of course I brought up one of my fav cute little tidbits where for the virtual console version of Star Tropics they included a "wet" looking portion that evoked the fact that for the original you had to dip the manual in water to get the answer to the puzzle and how cool stuff like that was, and how the most modern game I can think of with something similar is the train ticket in Professor Layton and the Diabolical Box, where I at first just thought it was a cute prop until I got to the puzzle that asked you to fold the ticket to get the answer! But the friend I was talking to did not share my enthusiasm and instead insisted that it was bad design to include necessary details in external elements or to assume that every player would be getting a complete package, citing their personal frustrations with the puzzle in Metal Gear Solid that required you to have kept the box it came in (which did make me feel a little self conscious over the fact that i have cases and manuals for games that I have long since lost the games they once held. 😳) I didn't quite buy that argument, especially since that even if you had lost or were never given the tools needed to solve the puzzle even at the time you probably could have looked it up in a magazine or game guide or even gameFAQs if you had internet access, and for the Layton puzzle you could technically just draw it out and make your own ticket... so we ended up in an "agree to disagree" situation with really the only conceit being "yeah if you didnt bring everything with you on vacation without realizing that would have sucked" knowing full well I was That Weirdo who would have brought everything with me :X all this to say manuals are cool. we need more manual based gimmicks in modern games (shame the evolving manual from the undertale beta didnt end up working and had to be scrapped...) I havent gotten around to tunic yet because im caught in a whirlwind of "games coming out faster than i can afford to have the time to play them" but! Eventually.

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

Ah, yes. The Star Tropics letter and Metal Gear Solid codec number are classics. Funnily enough, those are also so talked about that when I played both games as a teenager I had already heard about them beforehand. If you enjoy that stuff Tunic is right up your alley.

Thanks for another awesome video (and the category "Brainvenia")!

Tunic was the most fun ive had yelling at my tv in a long time.

@Transparencyboo

Жыл бұрын

Sounds great, haha

I feel like any discussion about the brainvainias would not be complete without talking about outer wilds. Just the experience of playing that game for the first time again is something I would pay to be able to do.

As someone who grew up on the OG Legend of Zelda, thank you for reminding me to get started on Tunic (which I've bought but haven't had a chance to play yet).

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

Really hope you enjoy it as much as we did! Have fun!

A great video on a great topic! I love how you looped back around to Zelda 1 and highlighted all the ways that it is similar to Tunic (rather than the opposite, which as you said the similarities of Tunic to Zelda 1 are obvious).

This was a fantastic presentation. Thank you for sharing a great perspective on ZeldaLikes!

Great video! Can't wait to eventually play this game!

This is a VERY well made video and it deserves more attention. Excellent work. Really stellar!

@Transparencyboo

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, thank you! A bit of a late response because we're really busy with our next video, but better late than never, haha. I hope more people find it too, it was a pretty fun vid to make :)

Thank you again! Wow, great videos!

@diomehiro2

Жыл бұрын

I love some Zelda games, and really don't care for others at all - and it would be top-down Zelda all the way for me if it wasn't for BoTW. I'm really interested in playing Tunic now!

@Transparencyboo

Жыл бұрын

@@diomehiro2 Tunic is really good, it's not exactly like Zelda of course, but it is really a special little game.

At first I was surprised you didn't include Outer Wilds in Brainvanias (it will catch on), but then I watched a second more of the video. But still it seems like outer wilds while relying the most on knowledge for all of its progression does seem outside of the realm of the 3 games listed. Perhaps its the context of knowledge as also being the narrative of in-game history. But great video, really glad to see someone talk about fez nowadays and how unique and different it is in terms of being a 'puzzle-platformer'. It has an enigmatic quality to it that's hard to describe but very apparent in the nostalgia it invokes of retro games while subverting the expectations they engender.

I love the brainveinia genre. I'd argue that the more cryptography and discovery focused Myst games fall into this 'genre' too. Now that it has a name, we could probably all come up with different games that fit the brainveinia label!

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

If it ever takes off I hope it gets a bit of a life of its own. It's not healthy for genres to get stuck in details and not get expanded upon with other games, like Myst for example. I am sure one could make a good argument for that one.

Beautifully constructed Video, it was a joy to watch having beaten the game not too long ago. 💙 Hearing the FEZ music come on near the middle was a big surprise as well, but it was a very well integrated analysis on the micro-genre! After all, the puzzles were my favourite part of this Fox Boy Toybox. P.S. I'll have to check out The Witness at some point too! I haven't heard much about it until now, but it definitely seems up my alley~

@Transparencyboo

Жыл бұрын

It's a cool game!

Ok. I fing loved tunic and I am SUPER excited to watch this now! Literal grin on my face when i saw my sub feed.

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

It's a really cool game!

@BardianAngel

2 жыл бұрын

@@Transparencyboo It really is. Loved your video on it too!

My favorite episode so far!

Great video as always

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed!

Love the original Zelda, as you mentioned it's really raw and stripped down. I also love the sense of adventure and how it says a lot about the world without dialogue. Sadly Tunic is a game I want to play but have no access but seeing how it respect the art of manuals is something that can be missing from games inspired by the old.

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

That sense of adventure is something I often felt a bit lost in other Zelda games. In particular I always thought Wind Waker captured it pretty well with the idea of traveling across the vast ocean and seeing something in the horizon and just sailing towards it. Of course Breath of the Wild also did scratch that itch for me quite a bit. Hope you get access to Tunic at some point, because it's really worth giving a go.

@thepositiver9977

2 жыл бұрын

@@Transparencyboo Wind Waker and Breath of the wild captured that sense so well. My favorite is Link's Awakening and while it's not as adventurous, it still capture that same sense of mystery of adventure from the original with what is going on with Koholint island, the mystery with the wind fish and turning the idea of tackling dungeons and defeating the bosses up on it's head.

@AnotherDuck

2 жыл бұрын

@@thepositiver9977 My favourite is A Link to the Past. It's among the less linear ones, since once you get to the Dark World and get the hammer you can go almost everywhere. It's also extremely well-suited for randomising the items, as shown by the ALTTPR community. Link's Awakening has, despite being a Game Boy game, among the best music. And as you say, the mystery is quite nice. It's one of those where that particular ending cliché isn't a total facepalm.

really love the video, I enjoyed delving into Tunic as well as Zelda, especially glad I can show my pal who loves the original Zelda! the manual is the absolute coolest

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it! Hope your pal enjoys too!

Reminds me of another "Brainveinia" I played, a card-based video game called Cultist Simulator. You play as a novice interested in the occult, going to work to make end's meet while pouring through ancient tomes on the weekend, getting tiny scraps of lore each time. At the start, you'll over die to dread or the police or starvation, but once you've done a bunch of attempts and gained knowledge on how the underlying mechanics work, you can weaponize cards that could have killed you before to summon eldritch monsters from beneath the skin of the world and destroy the detectives following you, or your annoying boss. The game's actual end goal/win condition isn't even hinted at until maybe halfway through the game, and hinted in such a way that it's hard to tell that that's the goal at all. Frustrating at first, but I really enjoyed it, and now I get the joy of mastery when I play through it.

I know a developer that made mandatory manuals for the most of their games. It's Zachtronics. Their games have amazing stylized printable manuals. I also know another game that gives an amazing sense of discovery. It's not widely known, but it's one of my favorite games. It's "else Heart.Break()". The game doesn't have a manual, it feels like it doesn't hold your hand at all, it doesn't even have achievements to track your progress (you have no clue how close your are to the end or how many secrets are still left to find). You just keep exploring and it is amazing and rewarding. The knowledge you get transforms subsequent playthrough and changes the game. Highly recommend it

I wonder how hard it would be to hide a physical manual with a physical copy. Slide it between the box art cover and case or something, then if you fully assemble it in game it shows you how to retrieve it in real life

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

If you make a collectors edition box, you could technically have a secret compartment.

"Say it Alicia, say the thing!" "... the best game ever made."

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

I am so excited for this to be an audience favorite!

@Furore2323

2 жыл бұрын

The thing is though... it's never a lie.

Now THAT is how you write a game analysis.

@Transparencyboo

Жыл бұрын

Haha, thank you :)

I just love this channel, this also really reminded me of getting a new game for the gameboy and reading the manual on the way home from the store, because that was the closest thing to playing the game. haven't played tunic yet, it's on the list... a long list of games yet to play (atm playing necrobarista)

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

We're glad that you're enjoying the videos, thank you! ♥️ Hope you get to Tunic soon and have a good time with it!

Wonderful video for a wonderful game. I love how you made it as spoiler free as possible. I don't think Tunic would work half as well with a physical manual, indeed. The rate of info you get is an important part, getting it all at once would be somewhat overwhelming, and make some things feel a lot less cool. However, getting the info this way is just so much more fun than getting it in a pop-up box. It's such a good package for it.

Great video! I haven't played tunic yet but definitely will once I get the chance, one thing I noticed as you were talking about it in the video is that once you beat tunic it's almost as if you become the player who had already played through the game and left the notes in the manual which I thought was neat.

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

That's a cool observation!

THis video came unexpectedly on my twitter feed, you've earned yourself a fan and a follower.

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

Welcome aboard, friend!

@dr_ubo

2 жыл бұрын

@@Transparencyboo I'm binging your channel. Congratulations on such a well done concept and delivery. Great redaction (script), interesting points of view and thought provoking concepts. Great delivery as well. Happy to have found this channel.

that little fox boy is so cute i teared up 😭 hes a little guy, just a small fella 💕💕💕💕💕

@Transparencyboo

Жыл бұрын

Perfect boy

this is so well written

I was about to tell you about outer wilds, as it kind of leads the pack for "knowledge bournes" in my soul. A one of a kind experience that can only truly be played through once. But it's been talked about to death with fez and the witness as footnotes, so it's nice to see the reverse here!

@Scarecrowexe

8 ай бұрын

Also just got my physical copy of tunic in the mail. Physical manual included! Interestingly all the handwritten text from a previous player is absent! Getting a naked manual is weird, but it gives players that start with it in hand a reason to seek out the in game manual. Neat

Great vid! the witness was the game that first got me thinking about the medium as something more than entertainment, as something that can convey deeper meanings. i'm really fascinated by the demarcation of video games, and how brainveinias especially draw attention to how complex it is to succinctly identify 'the game itself'. because isn't the knowledge we get from playing actually a power-up? the new game + carries not only the in-game upgrades, but also our experiences. and here our experiences before we even start the game for the first time comes into play. anyway, thank you for yet another video which inspires interesting discussion. makes me want to write about games again hehe. can't wait for the next one!!

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

The Witness has been a game we have wanted to talk about for a long time so it's nice to finally get the chance. It's just such a marvelous game, and the first time we finished it was just such a cool moment. We were gushing for days, haha! Anyway, glad that we can inspire and entertain, it really means the world to us! ♥️

An amazing video! Man I should play Tunic and also The Legend of Zelda. The importance of the manual as paratext feels like a certain blind spot in videogame preservation. Or, at the very least, it's very easy to [Chapter 4 of "The DEATH of Video Games | Capturing the Frozen Flame"] a copy of an NES game, but it's not like that will come packaged with the manual for easy reading, if it's even translated. Plus, emulators don't come built in with ebook readers, so reading a scan of a manual will always be a little bit more of a hassle in comparison to a physical booklet. (Because I have a terminal case of JRPG brain) I am also reminded of Final Fantasy XI, which I'm playing through at the moment. It doesn't have a manual per se, but trying to play the main game without a guide is, as far as I can tell, impossible. Basically every other mission has a step that's like 'go to this unmarked location of the map and interact with the right ??? on the ground; there will be like 50 of them so be sure you select the right one.' The fact the game absolutely refuses to convey navigation via the game itself is iirc an intentional design choice to push players onto forums and online communities (and now to bg-wiki) so that the game develops an online community. There's a certain logic to it specific to the game being an MMO, regardless of whether you agree with it. That then opens up the question 'is it alright if a game basically requires a FAQ to play through in general,' which we see playing out right now with Elden Ring, though it is a debate that is (to me) somewhat besides the point because I'm a filthy cheater that looks up a FAQ the second I think I'm stuck. The idea of a FAQ being a form of community-built paratext though is a really interesting one that opens up some more questions worth pondering.

@TheGlooga

2 жыл бұрын

oh also i would die for tunic the fox. the cutest and most perfect character design

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment, very interesting idea about expanding it to guides and internet talk. Had me laughing a lot at the Death of Video Games thing.

great video

I liked and commented without even watching the video because im just that furious this did not appear in my feed despite being subscribed to you

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

Common problem of youtube I suppose, I guess hitting that bell icon can help to be notified. Otherwise we upload pretty much every month around the same time so can always check in around the first half of the month :)

One of those rare channels where as soon as I see a new upload, I know what I'm spending my next half hour on. Another absolutely phenomenal video Alicia and Kiki! Also the term "Metroidbrainia" rolls off the tongue better if you absolutely have to combine metroidvania and brain for the faux genre name

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Glad you're enjoying the stuff! Luckily for us we don't really see anyone using our silly genre name, haha. Although Metroidbrainia is alright, but it misses the terrible joke of combining Brain and Vein in a silly way. So I might be biased, but I think ours is better 😌

its hard out here as a manual-liker.... really enjoyed the video!!

Only this channel can make you want to replay a game you thought you hated

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

This is the greatest compliment, thanks!

I grew up with the original Zelda. Had a hand-drawn map and all. While it's a bit on the random side to find many things (burn every bush, bomb every wall), the exploration is still very nice. The second quest also throws in a wrench with passable walls and stuff. But the lack of hand-holding and the ability to explore where you want is by far the best feature of the game. And the music is great. A Link to the Past is my favourite, though. Slightly more linear due to necessary items to progress, but that also makes it more of a Metroidvania in my eyes, and it's still not particularly linear after the first few dungeons. And there are a lot of dungeons.

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

Gosh, do you still have the map? That would be rad!

This video is lovely! If a therapist ran a youtube channel, this would be how the vid would be produced

When i was a kid I loved Zelda, that and mario 3, we'd play them on an emulator with snes controllers like a bunch of weirdos for hours, i actually never really got into later zelda games, like botw is AMAZING and my friend loves twilight princess for good reason, but that game always holds a special place in my heart. instead of a manual we had my dad, which i think is an equally powerful experience, but yk, and we'd have a great time. Whelp. time to buy Tunic. better check to see if im too broke.

must be Tuesday because Transparency is making me wanna get yet another game to try haha

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

Haha, sorry

great video :)

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

19:30 Thank you for having the gaul to say something so controversial but so very, very true.

@Transparencyboo

Жыл бұрын

Someone had to do it!

24:36 - Sudden Jucika!

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

She can't be contained!

TUNIC is getting a physical release this year that'll ship out on July 28th, which'll include a physical copy of both its it's full-color manual and a general controls and concepts booklet. Meaning that, yes: TUNIC has come full circle with itself and will have a physical manual with a foldout map of some areas and dungeons. Oh, and the full-color manual will also be staple-bound too. Plus there's also gonna be a hardcover edition of the full manual packaged in a sturdy slipcase.

At 4:13 you preamble about how an indie Zelda take focused on difficulty and deconstruction “isn’t something new”. As someone who’s actually barely looked at the indie scene I’d have appreciated a montage of the past decade I’ve missed, and I think it would help viewers in the far future reconstruct the chronology of our times.

Finally got time for this video. And holy hell, I knew this game was inspired by Zelda, but to have an in-game instruction manual as part of it!? Where have I been!? I NEED THIS NOW!!! And I know Tunic will get a physical copy, most likely thru Limited Run or something round that.

I didn’t expect to hear the words “3-D Dot Game Heroes” any time after the year 2012, and yet transparency’s hitting us with another deep cut

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

That game is permanently lodged in my brain for looking so darn radical, haha.

I used to like (brainvanias) but I'm sad to say that I have gotten so used to using the Internet when I get stuck for more than 20-30mins and I enjoyed the start of tunic but after a couple of hours I gave up and uninstalled. After watching this I'm downloading it again and giving it another go. 😊👍

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

I think it is always best to just try to defeat that urge to look up guides for these kinds of games. It might not ruin the experience necessarily, but gosh does it dimish a lot of the discoveries and intended play. I hope you have fun with Tunic on your second go, it really is quite special.

@thebluest_blue1145

9 ай бұрын

for these games, having someone to ask for hints is super helpful. Tunic and Outer Wilds both have great subreddits where people will give you nudges in the right direction, without outright spoilers

Zelda & Zelda II were one of the most entertaining moments of my life. Man, I miss the 80's...

One of the really nice things about playing retro games these days is that it's usually pretty easy to find scans of any game manual online. I look for a .pdf pretty much whenever I'm about to play a game from The Age of Manuals, partially because I'm afraid I'll miss some important hint or mechanic, but also because there's something inherently fun about reading them. The flavor text especially sometimes does an excellent job of setting the mood. The intro Yoshiaki Koizumi wrote for A Link to the Past's manual really gives the impression that Hyrule is a place with a fair bit of history, making me all the more excited to explore it in-game. The English-language manual for Castlevania III is hilarious, with the way it implies all your partners are ghosts, all the incredible names it gives things, etc.. They even invent a character from whole cloth, the Poltergeist King, which is such an evocative name. Those two words alone stir the imagination. I love Poltergeist King. I'm afraid I'd probably have entirely overlooked Tunic if not for this video, so thank you! I'm looking forward embarking on its journey one of these days.

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

We stan Poltergeist King!

When you mentioned Fez and The witness I was on the edge of my seat waiting for you to mention Outer Wilds

@Transparencyboo

Жыл бұрын

It really was a smart choice to mention it there at the end of that segment, haha. Just to make sure people knew that, yes, we also know, haha.

@jimmyjohnjoejr.9020

Жыл бұрын

@@Transparencyboo yeah this was a good video. I had to stop halfway through though, because I've already seen another video on this game and now I've decided I want to play it before I spoil myself any more on it. Thanks

@Transparencyboo

Жыл бұрын

@@jimmyjohnjoejr.9020 This video was made very intentionally to not spoil anything in particular, because we thought it was very important. But I can see why you would still be apprehensive and come back later. It's a game best experiencing as blind as possible :)

I think and hope at some point in the far future we could get a Tunic-Zelda 2D top-down platform crossover something like that would be pretty cool I think.

This is a great game with secrets within secrets!

On the topic of Fez, the first half or so of the game was really fun for me cause of all the stuff to do, places to explore, all that variety I loved. Then the last half was almost entirely "translate this into button presses" and that kinda soured it for me. Nice game though. Tunic sounds really cool, too.

25:35 Always have been, always will be. I still hold to the opinion that video game manuals are their own form of art. If Tunic were to ever release a physical manual (thought I doubt they would because of how important it is to the core of the game) I would buy it in a heartbeat.

Very interesting

@Transparencyboo

Жыл бұрын

Thank!

so the twine game I've been sporadically working on for a while is a brainveinia and I didn't even realise it! the idea is you're dropped into a maze-like civilisation with no context and repeatedly explore as much as you can with no permanent progression other than how much you know about it. I'll have to try more of these games, there are so many interesting ideas here that might give me the inspiration to finally finish it… thank you for these insights!

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

Now you can have "Brainveinia" mentioned on the description of the game too, as an added bonus. Haha

Legend of Zelda but it's the guards kid from OoT who wanted a Keaton mask Great video as usual!

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

Haha, the Zelda youtubers need to get on top of this tid bit of lore as soon as possible!

Just wanted to say, I happened to be looking away at 0:55, and I was overjoyed when I scrubbed back to find exactly the item I hoped it would be :)

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

;)

I kind of miss manuals. They may have made physical editions worthy in this era of digital editions and day-one patches. Also, I love the term Brainveinia

Ah now I get it, and will play it. I'd only seen people playing yet another zelda-like AA indie thing, but Tunic actually does a cool creative thing. Neat, thanks Also this, and the mention of Fez, made me nostalgic for ye olde Myst games, where you the player would compile a whole second manual on top of the official one, full of one's puzzle notes and maps and such.

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

Just a bunch of cool games those three!

Ever since I got my first Working Designs game way back when (Alundra), I've always loved video game manuals. Working Design's and other similar manuals had gorgeous art and were fun to read and look at. You could learn about the game's characters, it's world and, with a game like Trails in the Sky, it's entire layout and politics among other mundane things like controls. Even the black and white ones could be interesting if not quite up to the hardcover, small artbook level of Working Designs. The first thing I'd do before playing was always look through them to see what was in store for me. Then one day they started getting smaller, less artistic. They blandly told you about the controls and systems with no real artistic flare. Then they turned into a piece of paper with more legal jargon than the bit about the controls. Then came the "see our website for details" and eventually... nothing. I understand why they went away. You don't really _need_ a manual if there's in-game guides and the internet exists. You can still see them in more limited editions (Rune Factory 5 had a nice one written like it was an in-universe job manual, complete with memos and crossed out text or sections changed by the game's characters and is full-color to boot) but they're almost entirely gone now. Less trees being cut is always good but the manuals will always have a special place in my heart.

The manual was brilliant! A big twist happens, and then you get a new page that would've totally spoiled it earlier. With Tunic and Outer Wilds, there's two games that I wish I could forget and replay.

I miss how much my brain found exploring the original Zelda appealing. It's something I lost, and why I probably couldnt play Tunic. That being said, it still looks like a great game to watch (more of my realm now,) and Ill definitely give it a look-see that way ^^

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

If you have Game Pass, or a trial of it even, it's worth giving a little go!

I feel like what they might end up doing when they inevitably release a physical edition is have the manual "damaged" as in unreadable, coffee stains, faded, marked all over, as opposed to it being a 1:1 recreation of the original!

Yeah, this game is damned near perfect interpretation of the experience of playing an old, second-hand import game in all the best possible ways, with none (that i've seen) of the pitfalls that usually come from trying to do something of the sort. It knows what bits are the stuff we loved, what bits to fudge in favour of stuff game designers have learned in the decades since, not lean so hard into nostalgia that it won't work if you don't have it, etc. It won't be for everyone, nothing is, but /damn/ did they ever manage to do the thing they were trying to do insanely well.

@Daemonworks

2 жыл бұрын

Tangentially, for all the crypto and conlang nerds out there, with a bit of work one can learn to read all the manual, if so inclined.

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

It is certainly no wonder it took so long to develop. It's brilliantly made.

12:56 I am surprised you didn't also include Outer Wilds here, I feel it is much the same in terms of turning knowledge into game mechanics

@Transparencyboo

Жыл бұрын

We did mention it later. Just didn't really need three examples to go over, wouldn't flow as well.

@LB_

Жыл бұрын

@@Transparencyboo Ahh fair enough!

@Transparencyboo

Жыл бұрын

@@LB_ ;) ♥️

This game looks so cute and pretty! I really wanna play it now!

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

It's totally worth playing!

@snowy2419

2 жыл бұрын

@@Transparencyboo I have finished and the game is absolutely magical! Now I get to finish the video. Thank you!

Can't forget to add Outer Wilds alongside Fez, The Witness and Tunic, where the main gameplay element is discovery and knowledge.

@rocketlanterns

Жыл бұрын

... comment sent literally 5 seconds before you say "i guess outer wilds can hang with them too" lmfaoo oops

@Transparencyboo

Жыл бұрын

@@rocketlanterns Hehe, we got you friend.

It's a good thing that this game is just as enjoyable with invincible turned on. And for out of time to get through everything, I just used a guide to get the true end. That's said, I would really hope to see more game that focus on open world puzzle solving through understanding of mechanics rather than finding switches everywhere, without asking the player to do combat. And games really need to implement digital note taking features more often. Having to use external tools like pen and paper to piece together informations is kinda counterintuitive at times, and, maybe this is a weird one, it can make these games hard to be put into VR.

So lemme tell you how I beat SA1. Imported. When I was 9. And how great it would have been for them to at least also *visualize* how there was a context button to pick up the statues?... Thank fook for button mashing. Still the most fun I had playing a game I didn't quite understand. XP

Clearly I need to play this game. If it ever gets a Linux release, I'll buy it immediately. For now... well, I _do_ still need to try games like Fez, so I've got time to wait.

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

Fez is really good, can recommend.

I iust ordered the deluxe edition physical copy and it does come with a manual LOL

@Transparencyboo

8 ай бұрын

It sure does, haha.

i'm feeling an intense need to play this game, now

@apteropith

2 жыл бұрын

... like, after i've finished my NG+ and +2 Sekiro runs, and then played Elden Ring, i guess geez i have such a backlog and so much procrastination

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

The secret is to kill your backlog 😈

12:56 4th place should go to Toki Tori 2, the metroidvania that is played with two buttons but never gives you any powerups, only new information on how it's mechanics work.

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

Toki Tori 2 is hecking rad!

@evelyn7571

2 жыл бұрын

I was just about to comment the same thing - Toki Tori 2 predates The Witness and is extremely pure as a game that only gates the player based on information. It deserves a lot more credit than it gets!

Tunics manual makes me read it more than any other form of in game text cuz the silly pictures

Sorry for the random comment but I was watching a video about pathologic and one of the characters (Yulia Lyuricheva) sounds exactly like you, where you in the game or did you help codex entry (the creator of the video) by voicing some of his video for him? Either way I was shocked when I heard your voice and I was saying "hey I know that voice it's transparency lol anyway hope you are having a good day/night and I am looking forward to your next video

@Transparencyboo

Жыл бұрын

Ah, yeah, I did a voice for Yulia in those Codex Entry videos about Pathologic. So you're absolutely correct. Hope you have a nice day too

Tunic now also has a physical edition published by Fangamer!

All I'm wondering after this video is how you got the yellow tuft of hair on the fox. I know you can customize the colors but I don't remember the hair tuft being a separate color from the fur.

@Transparencyboo

2 жыл бұрын

Secret path in the left corner of the customization room.

In the end, the Switch physical release of Tunic *did* include a physical manual, plus a second copy of the maps... But the manual starts with a spoiler warning, urging you to play the game first.

@Transparencyboo

3 ай бұрын

Which is the right call. It would be a bit anti-thetical to the entire idea of the game to look through that entire thing first, haha.