Both have their own unique tone but, can we give a thumbs up to that bass tone!!! It sounded AMAZING! Keep rockin Johan! 🤘🏻🎸

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks! Glad you like it. I’m a fan of bridge mud buckers

@jasondorsey7110

11 ай бұрын

​@@JohanSegebornIs it a real mudbucker or one of those fakebuckers the japanese sometimes used?

@maxvockner

11 ай бұрын

Making me rethink my bass rig with that setup. Always need another 😂 have a trinity Amps B15 kit and a ampeg v4 that sound great at their ideal volumes. Looking up mudbuckers. Those amps sound amazing

@saucerfullofzepp4203

11 ай бұрын

The marshall and Lanel are amazing BUT the sound of the lake next to the mountains in Switzerland when it gently hits the rocks is AMAZING!!!!

@geschickt

11 ай бұрын

Correction: Sweden@@saucerfullofzepp4203

Wow!!!! I bet there’s nobody else on KZread who’s been able to document so much vintage and classic gear, nor as many different combinations as you have! Your channel is a real treasure! 😉

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks, it’s really good to hear that!

@dasczwo

3 ай бұрын

uh nice one… funny how small those big amps sound. no thundering lows… band makes em big. maybe make a vid on that supposed. billy gibbons quote „want a big sound? get a small amp“. pignose makes a great bass amp

Thank you for the massive effort you have to put into making your vintage gear comparisons. Hauling big cabs around isn't easy, So it definitely has to be a labor of love. Hopefully these videos will be around forever as a reference or in a library of some kind long after we are all gone.

Thanks for the great work over the years. It is a sort of tone mythbusting, much appreciated. Since I discovered your channel, I use it is a reference. I've been recording and producing albums for decades but instead of explaining things over and over again, I just direct folks to listen to your videos. It is all there, all the nuances and differences, perfectly matching to what I experienced over the years. Thank you, mate!

The Laney sounds like it has some extra evilness to it! Thanks Johan

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks! Yeah that’s the USP of the Laney! 😁

Your full mix sound is getting better and better!

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks! Really good to hear that!

Johan,Thank you for all of the cool gear that you share with us.

I don't know what we would do without you Johan! Hands down the most entertaining and enlightening channel on youtube.

@eddieholmes3236

11 ай бұрын

100%!

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks, really glad to hear that!

@bille77

5 ай бұрын

Except Pewdepie.

What a great idea! As always your videos are always lots of fun

The doubled riff sounds amazing. Both setups are spot on and those huge kick and snare drums help make the whole thing sound massive. Nicely done!

@JohanSegeborn

10 ай бұрын

Thanks! Really good to hear that!

@alanst.4417

10 ай бұрын

Well said.

You're having way too much fun, Johan! Excellent riffing!!

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks! I sure am 😂

Just, so well done, Johan. Cheers!!

@JohanSegeborn

10 ай бұрын

Thanks, really glad to hear that! Cheers!

Mix sounds fantastic! Great stuff as always

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks Matt!

Great tune and killer tone (as usual)! They pair up exceedingly well! Cheers.

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks, glad to hear it! Cheers!

Both sounded great in the mix. Thanks Johan!

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks! I’m glad you like it!

Nothing wrong with ANYTHING in that video!! Sounds *killer* 100%!! impressive playing and "production" too Johan

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks my friend! 🤘

@alanst.4417

10 ай бұрын

With Johan's hard work, creative and unique approach I think he had deserved 100k subs years ago. In fact I don't understand why he hasn't got twice as much...

@pstraums

10 ай бұрын

@@alanst.4417 100% 🤘

You never fail to deliver my friend! That was fantastic! You are one of the most underrated channels on KZread... you should have over a million Subscribers! Eventually people will realize what a gem of a channel you have and it will attract the large number of followers you deserve! I really enjoyed that raw sound of the Laney!

Great video Johan. Both amps are classic and sound great. The Laney breaks up a little bit more but I would be hard pressed to pick one. Monster tone and great tune. Thank you Johan. Cheers from Hawaii. Darrell

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks Darrell! Cheers!

Awesome demo Johan ! Always wanted to hear them side by side. Both are great to my ears. The laney comes out nicely when playing riffs while the Marshall works really well when playing room wide chords. Clearly both are different but they augment each other well.

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks, glad you like it!

Love to see the Brothers Segeborn back together! Great riffage and I loved both tones. They pair well together. Marshall was more creamy and saturated. Laney was more raw and cutting. Seemed like less gain, but no less brutal. Very Iommi-esque like you said. Fantastic stuff as usual Maestro Johan. God bless and rock on 🎸😎👍

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks man glad to hear it! Rock on!

@maxwellblakely7952

11 ай бұрын

This righteous riffage I may borrow!

Wow! my two favorites amps of all time Marshall 1959slp and Laney Supergroup really great tone! and great playing

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks! Glad you like them!

Johan, impressive playing here, really! Talented multi-instrumentalist! 🤘

Laney/SG for sure, but maybe I'm not being impartial. Your posts are always fun and informative, thanks.

Dude, one of the best videos that you’ve ever posted!

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks, really good to hear that!

Sån härlig vibe på videon, underbar demonstration ! 👏

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Tackar, Gott att höra!

@BigEdWo

11 ай бұрын

So eine schöne Stimmung in den Videos, wunderbare Demonstration!

THIS is gonna be a MONSTER comp of EPIC proportions!

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Cheers DMS! 😀

@DMSProduktions

11 ай бұрын

@@JohanSegeborn C U soon! \m/

Sounds like a leftover track/demo from the first Montrose album...really cool stuff 👍

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks my friend :-)

Dayum, you upped your game. Love this format. The Marshall with that guitar just sounded amazing. Laney has too much bottom end but still a great tone.

everything about this production is so cool!!

Such an awesome sounding mix - this sound is whats missing in modern rock

Hej Johan, apart from your killer guitar work on the Marshall (as usual) and on the Laney, I am deeply impressed by your drumming and bass playing on this track. You sound killer!!! And Laney and Marshall match up so well. Impressive. Keep it up, man!

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks Raphael! Makes my day to hear that

Awesome comparison! People always discounted Laney amps. Johan just proved what they are all about.

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks Don! Yeah the Laney has such a disobedient vibe to it!

@omarshaheen807

6 ай бұрын

Well I'm just a bit disappointed that they turned out to be less gainy than the Marshalls despite being the amps that gave us metal

Those blend so well together👍👍

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks!

Love it when every instrument has its own voice. I like the combo.

...and the Segeborn brothers crocs gang strikes again! Very strong this time with both Marshall and Laney half stacks. Definitely among my most favourites, the bass and drum tracks have a great vibe and your riffage is very catchy! Hope it's gonna be a part of your album someday... The amps seem to compliment each other well, although the Laney seems to stay more in the background. Wonder why some bands didn't use this combination? Cheers and rock on Johan🤘

Absolutely killer track Johan. Marshall and Laney are great together has you prove here. Don't know many bands, if any, played both together

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks Darren! I don’t know of any such band either

Cool. I've always wanted a Super Group. I'd be very interested to hear each amp through their own - and then through each other's - matching 4x12 cab. Rock on Johan!

Wow! Awesome combination

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks Ian!

I really like the bass tone! Great playing.

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks! Great to hear that!

They are a fantastic complement of each other.

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks I think so too! Both in terms of frequencies and attitude

Great video. I think they work really well together in the mix but I easily prefer the tone of the Marshall when listening to them individually. 👍

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks! Glad you like it

The bass sound is spectacular, I love it!

@JohanSegeborn

10 ай бұрын

Thanks, glad you like it!

I usually played Marshalls in my punk rock days. But I also owned some Orange, Laney, and Sound City amps at that time. They were all very cool and unique. I usually used the Marshalls for live performances. Thanks KC

They sound awesome together Johan!! They really compliment each other well. Great playing as usual Johan!

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks Jeff! Good to hear that

For years one of the best youtubers with just the nicest community! Great tunes! Though I think you should have used the same guitar on both amps.

That's a righteous jam! Killer tones.

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks Doug, glad to hear it!

thanks Johan!!! so funny lstening at high volume! you rock all gear long!!!

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks! Yeah that’s how it should be consumed

I liked the Laney better, it has a fuller body and a more balanced response, also i like that most of the Laneys i had heard didn't had any speaker fizziness, while the Marshall sounded to me quite thin on the body and with a janglier, fizzier response.

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks!

Awesome man

Sounds great. Staying on beat while tapping your foot off beat is a hidden talent.

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Hahaha! Yeah it’s a tail rather than a foot

@johansegeborn your playing is great as usual! You really should consider recording and album!

Great song and riffs Johan!! I'll always pick Marshall 🤘!! It is the sound of rock!

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks glad to hear it!

I'm surprised I liked the Laney better. It sounded fantastic!

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks! Glad to hear that

Cool vid! Both set-ups sound great, but different of course. The Marshall has the signature Marshall "KERRAG" in the upper-mids. The Laney is a little fuller sounding...low-mids maybe. Laney amps typically dark-sounding usually requiring a treble boost of some sort and Marshall amps just sounding they way they sound, I'll go for the Marshall, keeping in mind though that I'm a Marshall-guy. They'd sound the best together in a band situation. I liked the gear provided courtesy of Carlsburg as well!

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks! Yeah can’t get too much Carlsberg

Great song/sound! ....from this kind of songs which you could play all night long ;) Regards.

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks man! 😁Glad to hear it

Special thanks for the soloed parts ;)

I really like the quacky honky sound of the Laney. It doesn't sound nasally or flat...it just has a brash glassy sound that although I think stands perfectly fine on its own, blends very nicely with the Marshall here.

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks, glad to hear it!

Both fantastic amps with their own unique sound!!

@JohanSegeborn

10 ай бұрын

Cheers!

@stevestarr6395

10 ай бұрын

@@JohanSegeborn Cheers Johan 🍻

Marshall-Hiwatt-Laney three way shootout. You know we want to see it.

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

That’s a good idea. I need to get a Hiwatt

@user-bx9gn3xk6z

11 ай бұрын

@@JohanSegebornyeeeeeeah more Hiwatt 😎👍

Great amps both.well done king.🌹⚘⚘🎸🎸🙏🙏🙏🤟

I thought the Laney actually had better mids and was warmer while the Marshall had a raspier sound that I didn’t care for as much-and I’m usually a Marshall guy. In the late 80’s I bought a Laney Pro-Tube 100 made in the mid 80’s which was Laney’s answer to the JCM800 and it was better than a JCM800.

@JohanSegeborn

10 ай бұрын

Thanks Scott

@kurtbader9711

2 ай бұрын

I used 2 aor pro-tube heads in the late'80's and early '90's. Loved the gain and versatility but they were so hissy I ended up using a rack preamp and just the Laney power sections. I think they were too complicated for their own good. Owned an earlier Laney with two 6ca7s, basic Marshall style layout knobwise, and that thing kicked major a**. One of the ones you wish didn't get away.

Would love to see a demo/hear your thoughts on the Pro Tube series

As I warching this I was thinking do I want to sound more like Angus Young or Tony Iomi ??? lol.. Grear comparision video and nice playing too.

Amazing! I think the clear solution is to run both at the same time 😉 maybe throw in an old OR120 halfstack to complete the British wall of sound!

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks! All courses on the menu stirred down n a bucket a la Terry Jones!

Lovely sounds! I would be curious to hear it with guitars swapped. Maybe it's just me but I think there is a distinct SG tone on the Laney.

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks! These guitars are actually very similar sounding, the Nordin is a bit more dynamic. The Laney tone is so associated with SG and Sabbath so I also intuitively cone to think of SG when I play it

Would love to see you demo a Laney AOR series from the '80's.

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Yeah I’m really curious about those too. First chance I get

The Laney Lionheart is one of my favorite amps ever made !!

Wow! Fantastic rock performance by the Segeborn Band! ;) Love the biting, slightly nasal Laney sound (almost as much as the Marshall--very nice), but it's hard to tell how much is attributable to the treble booster and/or that cab + speaker combination? Nevertheless, a very enjoyable comparison--thanks to The Johan Four!

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks! Yeah the speakers and treble booster is indeed important factors

Killer tones 🍻🤘

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks, glad to hear it!

Great playing and sounds like always Johan! But.... how can you compare two amps with two different guitars and (even worse) two different cabinets both in size and speakers, Goodmans vs Celestion?

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks! We’re comparing the rigs not the amps. These are the quintessential cabs for respective brand 4x12 with T1221 for the Marshall and 4x12 with T1976 for Laney. Both Greenbacks by the way.

No substitute for a good 4x12. Currently rocking a Laney VC30 212 fitted with Hiwatt speakers and jolly nice it is too.

Full body from the Marshall, and nice icing on the cake from Laney. Great sound from both! Happy to see that you're now a four-piece band. Would be interesting to have a demo on how the treble booster affects the Laney sound (unless I missed it).

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks Bengt! I’ll definitely come back on how treble boosters benefit Laney Supergroup later on. Cheers

@alanst.4417

10 ай бұрын

That's great news, Johan! Looking forward to that one!

Whohoo, what a huge wall of great sounds!!! 🤘😛(that's Dio's horns in Sabbath + Gene Simmons tongue).

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks! 😉 Glad to hear it

Johan, did you try the classic Laney setup with the treble booster into the bass high input on the LA60BL/LA60LBO head? It would tame some of the upper end fizz of the Laney Treble input with the treble booster and the metal dome Celestions. Also a pass on I got for Tony Iommi's mid '70s rig, the speakers used with the Laney rig were JBL D120F orange frames with the 4in metal dust cap.

@JohanSegeborn

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, I know he used the bass channel, but with this rig I liked this the best. Do you have any reference for the JBLs?

@HollisAudioLabs

10 ай бұрын

@@JohanSegeborn This was a comment on my channel "A Google search brings it up eventually. I know a Fender Twin was used on the SBS album and that probably also had the JBL's in it. John "Dawk" Stillwell (r.i.p) confirmed on his old website that the Laney cabs he inspected in Sabbath's lockup in 1979 had orange frame D120F's."

I really liked the Laney sound here.

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks!

Oh cool!

As others have said, they sound great combined and also compliment each other really well. I think the Marshall has more of a bark, especially in the top end. The Laney has a wonderful thick and unrefined, almost growl-like tone. Thanks for demonstrating them both so well together! I don't think Laney amps get anywhere near the recognition they deserve. I have an old 100W AOR head but would love a Supergroup too, unfortunately they are prohibitively expensive! Out of curiousity, have you ever tried a LA30BL? I wonder how it would compare.

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks! Yeah Laney is a huge part of hard rock tone. I haven’t tried the LA30BL yet though I’m afraid

@LaneyAmplification

10 ай бұрын

@@JohanSegeborn we need to make that happen, Johan! get in touch!

1 great thing about living in the middle of sweden is NO NEIGHBOURS! I can rock out as loud as I wnt at 2am with no complaints. dig the jam man loving it.

@JohanSegeborn

10 ай бұрын

Thanks man glad to hear it!

The Laney surely sounds good but man...the Marshall tone still amazes me every time that I hear it!

OMG. Come to the UK and play. Magic .

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks Paul! I’d love to

Johan does that Weber Z- Matcher work safely? I have a KHE amp switcher. all my amps are running into it at 8ohms and all my load boxes and 1 cab are at 8ohms but my 1970's cab is at 16 Ohms. Can I use that Weber between the cab and the switcher to match to 8 ohms from the amps to 16 ohms to that cab through the Weber? I want to make sure I do not wreck anything especially my 1972 50 watt Marshall head.

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

It has never failed me

@braxal6983

11 ай бұрын

@@JohanSegeborn Thank you Johan!!!

I would have preferred to hear one amp at a time. I thought the circuit of the 1959 and the Laney were nearly the same. What speakers did the Laney use?

Great bass tone BTW

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks really good to hear that!

Nice tones, and that drummer... He's a machine

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks Jonny, that’s kind of you!

@jonnybeck6723

11 ай бұрын

@@JohanSegeborn Hey mate, you're doing the work and harvesting some cool stuff... Rock on (!)

love the laney tone

Ph.D Johan is back. That is one I have never played or even seen in person, a Laney.

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Cheers 😉

Both sound great! Would love to hear them through the same speakers though, I think some G12M's could tame that high end on the Laney a bit

@sandorbronn1661

11 ай бұрын

Laney side's got a Treble Booster on it.

@semdallinga69

11 ай бұрын

@@sandorbronn1661 Ah I forgot about that, thanks

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks glad to hear it!!laney is actually a pretty dark amp. I played through G12M T1221 a couple of videos ago when I aimed for the early sabbath tone

@semdallinga69

11 ай бұрын

@@JohanSegeborn Ah right! Loved the tone in that video though, might have to look into getting a Supergroup (as soon as I can afford one)…

My choice of marshalls is 60's plexi 's after owning 100's and 50's for 45 years i sold the 100n's and kept my 68 50w plxi its bone stock and does it all ! I had a laney in the 70's it was to bright for me but a solid amp for sure cheers !

Great clip. Do you prefer the Ironman II as attenuator now?

Love what your playing. What cords are they?

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks, that’s E0 G0 G#0 E1 in the verse and C, G, A, E stick

Both sound really good together. I would choose the laney

I think my earphone cable is mixed up, laney ended up sounding on my right side (as per video). I thought Johann said laney would be on the left.

@cpamiseso

10 ай бұрын

aside form that, I really enjoy the 'honky' Laney creates and how you mix it on this video, Johann. Great work as always.

Johan, not only can you come up with some amazing demo hooks, you could also probably step on a cats tail and it would sound great! 😁

I'll gonna see a comparison between a small Laney (LC 15 x Fender pro Júnior, for example).

Straight up I'm leaning too the Marshal. Together they fill the freq range nicely, but the fuller tone of Jim's box wins. Try these with a practice or cheap amp or like a Fender Champ

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks

Answer to the question is ...YES, the 2 sounds mix awesomely!!!!! PS that's a strange place to hang a Boss TU-2 tuner.

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks! Yeah that short cable gave me a hard time 😆

Kindly do a Fender Tweed vs Blackface tone?

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

We did this one but they’re both played through a Marshall cab kzread.info/dash/bejne/aGt5uZibfbfAipc.html I’ll keep the principle one in mind

Hi, Johan! Glad to see you! Yeah, Laney with Marshall is VERY NICE. I really liked it. See you!!! S

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks my friend, glad you like it! See you

Who doesn't love those old Marshall Plexi sounds? That said, I'm more of a Laney guy. They just seem to have a bit more a full frequency spectrum to my ears. They're just a better fit for me. But, again, if I were doing a fly in and all that was available was the Marshall, I wouldn't complain any. :)

The Marshall just kills!

@JohanSegeborn

11 ай бұрын

Thanks!