breathing control with prayer and buddhist prayer bowl is new age influence.

@peterjackbenson

7 ай бұрын

I wouldnt consider breathing control to be new age at all, it's been an aspect of many traditions for thousands of years.

I see this prayer as not just for myself. It can also be used in praying for others. Jesus son of David, have mercy on _____. ❤

@reijo437

10 ай бұрын

This is the reason I changed the form of the prayer, on advice by my teacher, from the egocentric "part "have mercy on me,, the sinner" to "have mercy on us, the sinners'. If you do this, you should make an extra effort of 'sensing your own sinfulness on which the Prayer is partly based.

The Jesus prayer has given you a humble and beautiful disposition Mary. Thank you!

@mattbellacotti

3 жыл бұрын

No. It’s a spiritual delusion she suffers from, fuelled by a false ego, of pride driven “spirituality”.

@u.chinni2060

2 жыл бұрын

Can you come to our church and preach the gospel of God

@peterjackbenson

7 ай бұрын

​@@mattbellacottiso you aren't prideful, making moral judgements that are left to God?

A milestone in Jesus prayer , is the book by unknown writer named …the way of a pilgrim .Thank you God bless you !

Labels take you away from Love. As you discover you are Loved you also discover all are Loved. The Jesus Prayer is one proven Way. There are many others. Choose one and stay on the road you can chosen.

@peterjackbenson

7 ай бұрын

Amen. I love it.

Thank you for this wonderful and inspiring talk.

You cant stop the thoughts only.observe...sending them off in a boat, slowly to float away. That really touched me....and is so true. We cant change it, only deal with it correctly and focus on what is most important.

@mattbellacotti

3 жыл бұрын

That’s typical Buddhist fluff. I understand the appeal but that doesn’t solve the problem. Flowery language isn’t what you should seek answers through. Nor your emotional response. The key to the prayer of the heart, as the desert fathers teach, is to not let thoughts go, but to identify them, and take them into captivity. They are the Orthodox fathers who developed the prayer. It’s not a “mantra” but a way of direct communion with God and conversation with Him. It doesn’t work. It’s cheesy second hand spirituality that you’ll find in the new age section at Chapters. And none of it works. The Jesus Prayer does. But only with proper understanding and this woman doesn’t have it.

@heathermarie3820

3 жыл бұрын

@@mattbellacotti I am a Christian...don't totally agree with the video but likes the quote ..that's all. I'm a very conservative Christian at that, so I agree with your point

@IAMFISH92

6 ай бұрын

@@mattbellacottiGotta disagree now in hindsight and with more practice. Only a very slight few of the desert fathers advocate for “taking the thoughts captive”, most notably Evagrius. The safest, or bloodless route, is to observe and let go of them.

I am very grateful for this video. 🙏

this is the best breakdown of the prayer that I have heard. Its simple without all the big spiritual words. Thank u

@mattbellacotti

3 жыл бұрын

No it’s the worst. Fredrica Mathews Greene gives a better break down. The desert fathers do. This woman is packaging Hinduism, Buddhism and new age practices under the the Jesus Prayer. As an Orthodox Christian it’s insulting and repugnant.

@shawnhampton8503

2 жыл бұрын

@@mattbellacotti No she is not.

Beautiful. Thank you.

Thanks for sharing such a beautiful message…Jesus 🙏 Prayer 🙏

great words! god bless u

Excellent, and very personal. Thank you for bringing a lay person’s approach to this. If anyone is interested in a practical explanation of the Jesus Prayer the video with Simon Barrington-Ward in excellent. It is the one where a young lady interviews him. He has also written a book about it and, as he was a Bishop in the Anglican Church, it might make it more accessible to non-Orthodox Christians.

Very good. Thank you

(Inhale) Jesus= son of David, (exhale) have mercy on me. ❤

When Moses came to the place appointed by Us, and his Lord addressed him, He said: "O my Lord! show (Thyself) to me, that I may look upon thee." Allah said: "By no means canst thou see Me (direct); But look upon the mount; if it abide in its place, then shalt thou see Me." When his Lord manifested His glory on the Mount, He made it as dust. And Moses fell down in a swoon. When he recovered his senses he said: "Glory be to Thee! to Thee I turn in repentance, and I am the first to believe." Great Quran

ربنا والهنا يسوع المسيح يا ابن الله الحى ارحمني انا عبدك الخاطئ امين

It would be nice to know the orthodox prayers she is referring to that she gave out at 17:36. I couldn’t quite catch them.

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If you are not a sinner become a Buddhist because Jesus Came for Sinners! Sinners know They are DUST ... Humility is a Must !!! You will never change and EGO will always be KING!

@asdfasdf3989

2 жыл бұрын

We are all sinners. Through Christ we can attain eternal life. We are meant to live and have relationships, not to forego attachments and feelings. Through Jesus we can transform ourselves.

I know this was a few years ago but do we have those prayers she gave out?

@shawnhampton8503

2 жыл бұрын

They can be found online or from any Orthodox Prayer Book. Just google "Orthodox Daily Prayers" There are several apps that have them as well. They are the standard opening prayers for morning and evening and at the beginning of the Divine Liturgy and the Offices.

The breathing control is not essential. Interesting at how many of us balk at saying the word "sinner". I don't necessarily think this comes from pride, as much as from a wrong idea of God. God as cruel dispenser of punishment, damnation, etc. - perhaps taps into bad Theology and preaching many were exposed to. But the humility to admit our sinfulness is a great gift.

@MrSofuskroghlarsen

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely. Recognizing our sinfullness, the areas of life where we fail to love others and ourselves, are important to identify. As you say, it humbles us. Though it is a hard task, and I am by far not good at it. Peace friend

@davidhoban3825

Жыл бұрын

There are many reasons why the breath is so important - too many to go into here - but if you read Fr Martin Laird's book 'A sunlight absence' - ' I think you may change your mind about the importance of the breath. I did and I used to previously balk at those who emphasized the breath. However, I now realise that those who do so are normally those who would actually benefit most from it and in the book Fr Martin tells you why that's so.

@peterjackbenson

7 ай бұрын

Breathing control is natural when saying this prayer unceasingly.

Mary you learned the Jesus prayer from a hindu?

@EmitFlestiKY

3 жыл бұрын

Rama Coomaraswamy was not a Hindu, but a Catholic convert. His father Ananda was a renowned Hindu scholar.

Is this woman actually Orthodox? Many people seem to like to borrow from our Ancient Faith but don’t follow the context, rituals, fasting & especially confession, all of which means we don’t think or feel like Catholics & Protestants. I know the difference, 1/2 my family were Protestant, living in the same house, the most beautiful & faith filled of humans, my beloved grandparents. For all the beauty I know there, there’s a different knowing that we have in Orthodoxy, the nous (look it up) that the rest hve lost. So many prideful commenters here convinced they know best, but fail to go to confession.

@swhite5840

10 ай бұрын

Maybe you could be proud of your tradition without putting others down. We are all part of the Church, Christ's body, we just have different gifts and expressions of that.

@mgkos

10 ай бұрын

@@swhite5840 perhaps you need to practise what you preach & mind your own business

@swhite5840

10 ай бұрын

@mgkos your response is embarrassingly irrelevant but hopefully it made you feel superior in some way.

@IAMFISH92

6 ай бұрын

She’s probably not Orthodox, but nothing she in the video was creamy to Orthodox teaching on prayer of the heart.

Please someone help me.

@martinschultealbert3504

4 жыл бұрын

Whats the matter?

3 жыл бұрын

@@martinschultealbert3504 The Kraken needs releasing, but when is the right time? =)

@AthanasiaOrtholady

2 жыл бұрын

Do you need a prayer?

Final comment. Read Orthodoxy and the Religion of the Future. Fr Seraphim Rose warmed about this garbage back in 1974.

@shawnhampton8503

2 жыл бұрын

Fr. Seraphim did not say the Jesus Prayer?

@peterjackbenson

7 ай бұрын

Everytime somebody says new age or pagan I hear an arrogant moral judgement on something you don't understand.

I don’t need a mantra. I have a relationship with an Almighty God because of Yeshua’s death on the cross. I can talk to Him any time, anywhere. The only meditation He requires of me is to meditate on His Word. New King James Version. And He likes me to speak His Word to Him. There’s power in His Word. This sounds like New Age mysticism and it could be prayer to Lucifer.

@simbabwe2907

2 жыл бұрын

It's a prayer the church fathers prayed. What you just said was...... Ignorant.

@heatherthompson3670

2 жыл бұрын

@@simbabwe2907 I’m not ignorant. Jesus taught us how to pray. It’s natural and easy to talk to the Father God in Jesus name because He made a way for us to talk to God because He died and paid the sacrificial price to enable us to enter into the Holy Place of His presence. Praise the wonderful name of Jesus, the only way to the true and living God.

@simbabwe2907

2 жыл бұрын

@@heatherthompson3670 Saying that the church fathers who prayed the Jesus prayer were wrong for doing it is pretty prideful.

@heatherthompson3670

2 жыл бұрын

@@simbabwe2907 I just stick with Gods Word. What Jesus said. The church fathers got some things wrong. I follow God, not man made religion.

@simbabwe2907

2 жыл бұрын

@@heatherthompson3670 thinking you stand over the traditions of christianty is so protestian . Church fathers are not perfect but to think that praying ceaseless is anything but devotional and thinking it could lead to lucifer is the same as saying the Saints lead unholy lifes,because they wanted to pray without ending. You can say you want to do it differently. But to condomn it? Next time look at the things you imply.

But you are a sinner Blanch. You are a sinner. She's a lovely lady but listen to the Orthodox Priests for instructions on the Jesus pray. Also do not control your breathing when reciting the prayer it not good for your health.

@peterjackbenson

7 ай бұрын

Who states it's not good for your health? You have some statistics? Or I am supposed to take your word for it? because the Jesus prayer naturally turns into a breathing exercise, and from personal experience it is powerful.

This is New Age theology and meditation practices wrapped up in a Christian bow. It makes you focus on YOU rather than having a genuine relationship with Jesus and prevents you from praying/interceding for others. How is repeating a phrase over and over having a true conversation with God? You wouldn't do that with anyone else on the planet or with Jesus himself if he was standing right in front of you. As tempting as it is, repeating mantras is simply not Biblical meditation: And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. (Matt 6:7)

@kiutpi

3 жыл бұрын

This is a deep prayer of the soul 🙏 "Lord Jesus Christ, have mercy on me, a sinner". @Shayna NA f you can't pray this with all of your heart, then you are right, it would be babbling, so better not say it at all.

@wmalgal

3 жыл бұрын

I'm sure you have no problem repeating the Lord's prayer... She does say the difference between prayer and meditation is that prayer points towards Jesus. Like another commenter says, if you pray with sincerity and humility and not just say it mindlessly, you will be kept safe. The Bible passage you quoted refers to VAIN repetition.... And when you pray, do not use vain repetitions as the heathen do. For they think that they will be heard for their many words. Matthew 6:7 NKJV

@shawnhampton8503

2 жыл бұрын

This is a very ancient Christian practice. The ancient monks sought to follow what St. Paul says: 'pray always'. Babbling on to God with one's own words is merely an exercise of talking to one's own ego. This prayer is a direct quote from the Gospels.

@peterjackbenson

7 ай бұрын

I see some silly moral judgements here.