The Jackie lunch March 2nd 2004
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Jackie wouldve owned half of Bayville by now if he had stayed.
@gsesquire3441
10 ай бұрын
If he had stayed for those fat checks that Gary and Robin got from sirius he would def be the richest dude in Bayville.
Howard: I don't know what anyone makes, it doesn't impact me. Oh, he was trying to teach ME how to negotiate. I hired a couple people with that money.
@ethanmurray2203
Жыл бұрын
From what I hear, Howard was given an amount for his show, all talent costs came from that. So, it does impact Howard who makes what. He's a liar
@bimbodice624
10 ай бұрын
Yew logic.
@mulemule
9 ай бұрын
@@ethanmurray2203 That was the arrangement at Sirius but this was still @ K-ROCK where CBS handled the pay.
Would’ve loved to hear more from Tom - John was so eager to talk but added nothing here
@bensnow2688
20 күн бұрын
Would always rather hear Tom than John. He’s funny because he’s so serious, John tries to be funny and isn’t
Makes you wonder what role Jackies wife had in him quittin the show . She obviously didn't try and talk him out of it .
@mulemule
9 ай бұрын
They called her soon after the debacle and she swore that she did not push Jackie over the cliff. In this case, I actually believe her. Why? Because her own delusional music/acting career was highly dependant upon association with the show and Howard's plugs. (Folks also seem to forget that during this time Jackie was still a raging alcoholic.)
@mrbill9248
9 ай бұрын
@@mulemule not sure if you saw or heard the interview when Nancy said within 8 weeks of Jackie leaving the show they were separated and agreed for a divorce and Jackie quit the booze . I guess Jackie was just greedy and never would been satisfied unless he got exactly what Howard got . According to Howard , Jackie has been stagin walk outs since 1985 .
@mulemule
9 ай бұрын
@@mrbill9248 Exactly this.
@kcrow430
Ай бұрын
I believe she did encourage him. She was just as delusional as he was. Remember that time when she claimed to have a more pressure filled job than Howard and Jackie in regards to her "job" making Jackie's shirts and mugs, etc.? She believed that if Jackie left the show, he would still be making loads of money from their mail order business alone. I think Jackie would've been a pain in the ass anyway, but Nancy definitely played a part .
Stuttering John is incapable of deep thought.
@nigabastard1268
Жыл бұрын
PAMALER ANDERSON!!!!
@Hilz28
Жыл бұрын
What makes him so shamelessly funny to listen to 🤣
@fudgicle1427
Жыл бұрын
He's also incapable of stopping that explosive retard laughter. He can't express himself without it.
@Buckets50
Жыл бұрын
You can get rid of ‘deep’
@TheMisadventuresOfWiggy
Жыл бұрын
"Nigerless cage"
Jackie committed career suicide, and did this to himself. There is no other way to spin this.
@yayayaokoksure
Жыл бұрын
Suicide generally is self inflicted lol
@bensnow2688
20 күн бұрын
@@yayayaokoksuregenerally. There is suicide by cop and physician-assisted suicide though, to be fair
Annoying Robin telling Howard how he feels was in rare form on this clip.
@Roscoe-111
Жыл бұрын
She is unbearable
@carter4597
Жыл бұрын
The worst.
@jerryjeromehawkins1712
29 күн бұрын
Another function that Robin didn't attend... yet she had the most to say about it.
@edub9930
2 күн бұрын
@@jerryjeromehawkins1712absolutely. She wouldn't even let those that were there get in a word edgewise. For the life of me i cant figure out why she doesnt have suitors lining up to marry her 😂😅
Robin Ophelia is the worlds luckiest person with the worlds easiest job. Im glad she survived cancer and actually like her these days
I missed this because I was in a Clear Channel market and the show was pulled off the air in February of 2004.
Was this Shuli paying his dues ?
Howard spent years talking about Nancy, and then gets offended if Jackie says a word about Beth.
F Jackie! You blew it! Damn shame.
Man. A million to make a couple racist jokes and laugh at the boss's jokes. Pretty sweet deal.
@bensnow2688
20 күн бұрын
Not even good racist jokes either, racist jokes for which the stereotypes at play are from the 1970s
Is that Shiuli, calling in with the game?
@mulemule
9 ай бұрын
Sounds like him. (Urp.)
I’ve heard the Jackie quitting story 50 times and it never gets old how obviously petty Jackie was
@fudgicle1427
2 жыл бұрын
Agree. It really is one of the biggest blunders in show business history. Jackie's over confidence is astounding. For someone as limited as Jackie, 50 years old, absolutely no chance of being hired by anyone else for anything, even after intense networking every day of his 15 years on an extremely popular show - for him to not consider his final deal to be a winning lotto ticket - is unreal. He truly believed they couldn't live without him, and he was the backbone of the show. I can't even imagine the moment Jackie realized that Howard was done with him. Shock is an understatement.
@bluntforcetrauma8192
Жыл бұрын
Petty? Jackie was the head writer and on air personality for the "number 1 radio show of all time." How come Howard is allowed to fight for every penny, but if anyone else does it, then they are "petty?"
@bluntforcetrauma8192
Жыл бұрын
@Stranded NYer Wrong. I also heard the show in real time but I take the "kid" remark as a compliment. 😁
@Roscoe-111
Жыл бұрын
@@fudgicle1427 the show sucked after Jackie left. Even with Gass and artie, and florentine, it was okay, but definitely was terminal when he left. End of story.
@RockyStatue
Жыл бұрын
@@bluntforcetrauma8192 Jackie had every right to fight for max pay..but at the end of the day, to walk from that gig was a massive mistake. He doesn’t make that that salary 10 years now. Idiot. But the show was every bit as good with Artie. 2 totally different shows and I loved both. Howard was much funnier with Jackie though.
Jackie’s an example of someone who thinks they are much more talented than they really are and what happened after he left the show has proven that
I love how Howard always plays dumb and acts like he doesn’t know the numbers and what people are getting paid like he doesn’t dictate anything 😂
@Gecko....
Жыл бұрын
Tom was his whipping boy who howard used to be the bad guy in negotiations, he directly told Tom how much to pay.
great clip, love the thumbnail. Howissey-Wighead
Jackie turned down $850,000.00.
@brianfoley3045
2 жыл бұрын
Per year? How do you know?
@alanhawkins808
2 жыл бұрын
Yes. $850,000/Year. I know because I’m well informed on such matters. Trust Me.
@brianfoley3045
2 жыл бұрын
@@alanhawkins808 wow, jackie made the worst business decision in history..lol
@saljablo2767
2 жыл бұрын
To be fair. He didn’t turn it down he was just playing hardball for the final time. He was trying to eek out a few more dimes. When he realized he wasn’t getting anything else he took the deal, but by that time howard realized he could move on without Jackie and be fine.
@CarloisBuriedAlive
2 жыл бұрын
@@brianfoley3045 not to mention he was given plugs on the air thrown into his deal, which means he had access to millions of listeners to advertise all of his side gigs and standup shows.
"I'm a loyal guy" Cut to twenty years later...
@bensnow2688
20 күн бұрын
I mean he’s still loyal to Robin, Fred and Gary at least even if he’s now a woke Imus
Jackie would've made 5 mil a year if he stayed
F Jackie.
I hate that we used to believe the pelican back then!
@jasoncoffmanandhunterjimmithy
Ай бұрын
But this is the absolute truth you dink.
@bensnow2688
20 күн бұрын
I mean yeah he’s full of shit but not sure how he’s off on this one. Jackie did this to himself. Robin and Fred were team players and look at how much more they made in the past 20 years
It would be nice if Robin was editted out of this clip
@flutebasket4294
Жыл бұрын
@Stranded NYer I've been listening to Stern since before you were born, bi*ch. Sometimes Robin is insanely annoying -- all Stern fans know this
@freshtendrills5969
Жыл бұрын
@Stranded NYer Dude. Robin stepped all over this story. Me ME ME!! EWEEEWWWEEAAAAA!!!! I WAS A PART OF THIS TWWOOOO!!! You want a perfect example of ROBIN not shutting the fuck up for two seconds? King of all blacks called in to the show one time to ask Howard about judaism, and rabbi's. In that call, the conversation got around where howard said this phrase. "Well, I think this is the meaning of life.... ROBIN: WELL THIS IS WHAT IIIIIIIII THINK THE MEANING OF LIFE IS EEEEWWWWWWWWEEAAAAAAHH!!" Robin sucks dude. She's jealous of howard. And she steps on the most memorable parts of the shows history.
@mulemule
9 ай бұрын
I'm just stunned Artie wasn't.
Does Robin ever shut up?
@heynowls3058
Жыл бұрын
It’s her show too. Dipey!
@jamesross9906
Жыл бұрын
Jackie was the worst business in the world number 1 worst of. All time he wasn't needed on the show the show got better when he left
Robin didn't like Jackie exploiting Howard because that's her job. She's made a whole career, that she's completely unqualified for, based on guilt tripping Howard.
10:09 Howard lies, misrepresents the truth, as always, to portray himself as the good guy, victim, etc. If Jackie screwed up--fine. But tell the truth, provide the facts. Jackie sent Howard an email, documented everything. These guys have a story about their lunch with Jackie, and Howard takes over, rambles on, doesn't want the other side of the story to be heard. Here we are how many years later, has Howard pulled any BS behind the scenes with former regulars on the show, staff, etc.?
@stinkyham9050
2 жыл бұрын
Jackie quit. End of story Jackie quit. Howard didn't misrepresent anything. When you quit a job your employer doesn't owe you anything.
@MrBronx61
2 жыл бұрын
@@stinkyham9050 Howard always fought for Jackie in the past, eventually he got tired of it. I remember the show when he told Jackie, if he stages another walkout, he was done - no more fighting for him.
@stinkyham9050
Жыл бұрын
@Stranded NYer The best part is Howard predicted a few weeks earlier that Jackie would be gone permanently after the last negotiations. Jackie was a completely hack and the show got so much better after he left. I think most fans agree that the Artie years were the best the show ever was.
@stinkyham9050
Жыл бұрын
@Stranded NYer Also let's not forget if Jackie stuck with tbe show he would have been best friends with Paul McCartney. Lol.
@MrBronx61
Жыл бұрын
@Stranded NYer I started listening to Howard in the late 80s. Jackie was pulling those moves since then and Howard would always go to management and fight for him. Eventually he got tired of it, and I think in early 2000 he told Jackie he wasn't going to management anymore. He gave Jackie fair warning. Didn't Tom call Jackie and ask him are you sure you want to do this?
I love the Jackie days. Yes it was a bad choice to leave. But it’s human to act the way he did. If you feel responsible for a huge part of the success of something, and than another person puts in 10% of the effort you do but they’re paid hundreds of thousands more than you you’d be upset. It was always a pissing match with Howard. Howard always busted his balls and it was always Howard emasculating him. If I had a dude who was a loser his whole life and got beat up constantly talking down to me I’d snap too.
From 7:08 is one of a couple places where Howard loses me. We’re not talking about poor quality morning radio. We’re talking about, supposedly, the _only really good_ radio show. So why would someone who’s part of _that_ be paid like someone on a _shitty_ show…
@cameronvandegrift
6 ай бұрын
$800k a year is not shitty
If I was Howard, I would negotiate on behalf of my employees: "Oh you wanna pay me $30 million a year? You can afford THAT? Then why does Gary make $35K a year? And Fred and Jackie only make $75K? Even Robin, my princess, only makes six figures. Why not pay me 'only' $26 million and pay each of them $1 million?! That would actually SAVE you nearly $500K!! Learn math, Tom!!" But the Golden Pelican would never think of THAT.
@schmeltingaccident
2 жыл бұрын
His Jew genes are just too strong for that kind of action
@Nunya_Bidness_53
Жыл бұрын
@Stranded NYer If it was my highly profitable show I would stick up for my people who MAKE that show what it is, and make certain they were fairly compensated, yes. The corporation had the money to pay those people, but they had to feed it to the Golden Pelican to keep him squawking for them. If he had been less greedy there would have been more for his "cast". He still would have gotten the lion's share...but pelicans just have to eat EVERYTHING.
@Nunya_Bidness_53
Жыл бұрын
@Stranded NYer Because Papa Howie took care of them once they got to Sirius as long as they were good babies. But there's nothing patronizing about Howard Stern negotiating the salary structure of "the Howard Stern Show"
@schmeltingaccident
Жыл бұрын
@@Nunya_Bidness_53 I know it’s not my argument but you are correct. It wouldn’t be about treating his co workers as his children, it would be about Howard taking less of the cake, maybe giving up just one extra slice and still be making hundreds of mil a year, and treat his employees well and thank them for making the show what it became to. Like Seinfeld, a beloved show but many or dare I say most of the fan base liked the supporting cast much better than the main star. I don’t think it’s about negotiation skills, or letting each man and woman negotiate for themselves, I think it was about all of them knowing Howard was getting the lions share and they were entitled to only crumbs for a long while. I’m sure it took them (Fred, Robin and Gary) years to have a net worth of a million and then more, from investments and stocks etc… Love him or hate him but that’s what Jackie said after he left. Howard got the entire birthday cake besides a slice, and that slice was fought over by him, Fred Robin and Gary. And whatever crumbs from that slice fell off the table, the rest of the staff fought over for. It seems disgusting.
@dissraps
Жыл бұрын
"How about instead of giving you 30 million a year we give you 50k less and give 300k to Gary? It's only 50k to you" "WHOA WHOA WHOA THAT'S MY 50K"
Howard fights for every cent but God forbid if Jackie tries to get decent pay.
@georgem3240
Жыл бұрын
I love Jackie but he blew it. He had a good thing going. His ego and his greed clouded his decision making abilities. He walked away from probably 50 million bucks over the years.
@mattbeondi1186
Жыл бұрын
Jackie had limited talent. He was overpayed
@epicswag5509
11 ай бұрын
Hi. Decent pay? Just so we're clear here, Jokeman was making 350 THOUSAND + dollars when he left......... and that was in 2001. That is about 580 THOUSAND dollars in todays money. A YEAR. Jackie is a moron.
@bluntforcetrauma8192
11 ай бұрын
@@epicswag5509 Still not enough especially in NYC. Remember, this is the biggest radio show of all time and Jackie is one of the top 4 personalities on the show and the head writer.
@mulemule
9 ай бұрын
But that's just it: it WAS decent pay. Even Jackie (I forget on which forum) acknowledged that it wasn't really a $$$ thing.
Kinda of like Howard makes half billion a year and it took 12 people to make that show they get nowhere near that
Too many people trying to tell the same story
@mulemule
9 ай бұрын
Right? Every time someone attempted to share a crumb of specific _facts_ someone else would highjack the discussion.
I feel for Jackie , he didn't have the presence of mind to say ok I'm done here & email them saying no thank you I quit.
Got rid of Jackie bc he was the only person didn’t always agree with Howard.
@bensnow2688
20 күн бұрын
Jackie got rid of himself what are you on about😂
@ElkoeWise
7 күн бұрын
Were you not listening? He got rid of himself over 50k
Would have been interesting but too much of Robin
@Eric_the_miserable_midget
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting me know, I won’t listen know
@tampaphone99
2 жыл бұрын
Robin was great in this segment. My opinion
@trump-totalwar6509
Жыл бұрын
@@user-dx7yu1pm2i Robin made the show
Why is it that so many commenters evidently hate Howard but watch him anyways? Anyone I dislike, I don't watch. I don't get it.
@anduin1
Жыл бұрын
because the show was better when it included the whole cast and back office people interacting naturally and in a funny way, Howard wasn't the funniest but carried himself like he was better than everyone else in the room. The Stern show hasn't been that for a decade at this point so these old clips are all that's left
@fudgicle1427
Жыл бұрын
Hate watching has been around as long as entertainment has. Get real.
@The_10th_Man
Жыл бұрын
Most common answer? We want to see what he'll say next.
@mulemule
9 ай бұрын
During his mega-popular years there was a poll done wherein at least 50% of his listener-base was comprised of those who despised him. People still tuned in because (love him or hate him) he provoked strong reactions and ignited intense, interesting, debate _(and laughter)._ All wrapped up in a weird and fun freak show unlike anything else before or since.
Robin Quivers... Never has someone been given so much and contributed so little. The definition of "hole". The narcissism from wiggy and Robin off the charts...'how could the guy we shit on everyday not want to work with us?'