Something I feel might work for Magy is making its neck venomous and expandable like a pufferfish or a toad. The venom is maintained through good diet or some other consumable, and it can be inflated by holding right-click. The inflated neck drains stamina the longer it is held, forces the Magy to turn and face the direction the mouse is looking, and reduces damage taken to the head and neck when attacked. If an attacker goes for the head or neck, they will take a slight amount of damage and earn a stackable amount of venom debuff.

@stramaus_

2 жыл бұрын

Really good

@brandonforrester7342

2 жыл бұрын

That's straight up out of a cartoon on cartoon network I think, that's a goofy idea.

@Rexz2000

2 жыл бұрын

@@brandonforrester7342 Not really. Tons of modern animals already do something similar. You want to talk cartoony, look at Troodon's walking animations.

@brandonforrester7342

2 жыл бұрын

@@Rexz2000 imagine this, a cera pulls up on a magy caught lacking, the magy inflates it's neck like a balloon by sucking up air and doing a t-pose, the cera then bites the magys neck, then BRIGHT NEON GREEN TOXIC LIQUID squirts out of the magys neck and somehow poisons the cera? Now I'm no dino expert but idk how you gonna poison something by squirting it on it's skin, like is the toxic liquid some kind of corrosive acid that burns through flesh? And the reason why pufferfish even get it's venom inside it's attacker is because of the spines that pufferfish have stick into their skin and poison them, and don't see any spines on magys neck or are there microscopic spines on the magys neck that the human eye can't see? But by all means, put your suggestion in the isle discord if you feel like you make sense, maybe people would prove me wrong idk, but still, my opinion still stands.

@Rexz2000

2 жыл бұрын

@@brandonforrester7342 Of course Magys design would need a rework to make this work. Similar to a pufferfish I would imagine the spines wouldn't be visible when not inflated. Nowhere did I say "neon green venom", just if something attacked the Magys neck while it was inflated they would be punctured and envenomated by the small now-visible spines similar to how a pufferfish injects venom into its attackers. Maybe carnivores with armored heads or venom resistance like Cerato would have a better time against this. Maybe its defensive posture could be it raises its head and uses the underside of its spiny neck as a shield, not standing on two legs t-posing. I have no clue how venom/poison will work, but I thought having Magy actively apply venom in its defense would be a better alternative than just making it taste bad which is what the developers have alluded to.

I feel like an interesting idea for a vid would be addressing the oversaturation of carnivores that fill the same niche. The Isle's roster having giga, acro, and allo is so redundant. There's other examples in The Isle alone, and BoB and PoT have a similar problem with their rosters. People need to realize that nature has a 66:33 ratio for herbivores, and dinosim games should try to reflect this if they want a balanced ecosystem. Keep up the good vids king 👍

@colecampbell1906

2 жыл бұрын

Yea but the amount of payable dinosaurs doesn't reflect the amount of dinosaurs being played at a given time. They could have that ratio in the roster but if there's still 70/100 players going for carnivores it's not going to change by taking a few away or adding more herbies. Plus giga and allo are in different spaces since giga is much much larger. Mid tier vs apex. The sad fact is most people just don't like playing herbie. All in all, the more the better.

@CalciumCD

2 жыл бұрын

@@colecampbell1906 I agree, all things being equal, people are just more interested in carnivores and you won't ever get a balanced ecosystem under normal circumstances. I feel like the only real way to get past it is to just acknowledge that there's going to be an imbalance and give herbivores a growth boost compared to carnivores (kind of the opposite situation that's in the game at the moment where carnivores get free perfect diets for the first part of their growth stage) so that there's always at least some adults around the place. It could also go both ways if herbivores outnumber carnivores, for whatever reason, since a 66 herb/33 carno split would probably be too safe, if anything.

@FigliadiSephiroth

2 жыл бұрын

Unpopular opinion maybe, but this is why I liked the concept of progression mode in Legacy. Making bigger species unlockable by spending time surviving and thriving as smaller species helped create the illusion of a realistic ecosystem, with fewer apexes and more prey animals.

Some time ago, I wrote a giant paragraph explaining some basic ideas about how Magys attacks should be. I found it today. Personally, after seeing the fact magy only has poison to help it survive, I feel that it's not enough to ensure magy survives. But after discussing it in , I have came up with the a conclusion for how magy should attack: **Magy Combat controls!** LMB: A bite, dealing slighly above decent damage. Its just.. well, a bite. But it has a bite speed comparable to that of a Utah. Alt-LMB: A neck whack. Dealing CC and decent damage, allowing it to get a headstart in running away from a creature that decides to attack it, or if anything smaller is feeble enough to attack it. RMB: A directional shoulder bash, that deals minor CC, like a stagger or bashing into something while it’s running after you, which forces it into another direction, minor bleed (due to the osteoderms on its shoulders), and decent damage. This can buy itself enough time to gain enough distance with its amazing endurance. (Now for some of y'all confused that it deals bleed, its osteoderms are sharp) Alt-RMB: A rear up ability. If everything else doesn't work, or if magy feels threatened, it can rear up. This can serve two purposes: • Eating. • Defense. Eating: When magy is beside a tree while reared up, the message "Press 'E' to eat!" will appear. Defense: When magy is reared up, it enters its defense position. This gives it two options: Stomp - Press LMB while reared up to stomp. This inflicts whoever is stomped with fractures, and heavy CC. If the magy misses, it'll have a 1-1.5 second attack window for its opponent. So becareful! RMB: Cancels the defense position.

@duder7396

2 жыл бұрын

Can you provide actual damage numbers? Half of the attacks do “decent” damage and i’m getting confused.

You know how magy is supposed to be poisonous to eat? What if that effect applies while it’s still living? Like maybe whenever a creature uses a bite attack on it it gets the same debuffs as when the magy is eaten, except not quite as potent

@brandonforrester7342

2 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, like a dino poison dart frog except 100x bigger and built like a truck

i think that the magy should be able to take on small-medium dinos but be just able to outrun apexes.

@huxsucks

Жыл бұрын

Allo

Perhaps they want to make magy venomous for only certain species? I think someone said dilos were going to be poisonous because of what they eat and a dev said ah yes someone's thinking outside the box. But I honestly prefer your fixed magy!

I personally think the devs would be offended by this and just call you a “shitbird” like the children they are. I think the magy should just lose the speed and keep everything else

@wicked04

2 жыл бұрын

omg you should see the Bob devs

@forestof0ctober06

2 жыл бұрын

What did they do?

@colecampbell1906

2 жыл бұрын

What are you guys comparing it to if it doesn't even exist in game yet? This is so confusing seeing people say to take things away, if it isn't even released how can they change abilities or anything?

@africankidd3642

2 жыл бұрын

@@colecampbell1906 take away from the planned abilities

@colecampbell1906

2 жыл бұрын

@@africankidd3642 well that seems like jumping the gun quite a bit then. Things never stay as the original idea, idk why videos like this exist before giving it a chance to be released first and see how it actually is. No need to fix something that doesn't even exist yet.

I think the magy should be able to puff up its neck with air and let out a loud scream that if to close will make attackers deff. The attackers can heal it but it would take time. That means the attacker would not be able to hear footsteps of a bigger predator. The magy can not be made deff by this only other dinos. Also when it puffs up it’s neck it can go under water and feed on underwater vegetation. It can also hide from attackers this way. Some sauropods were known to go underwater.

@popuied6688

2 жыл бұрын

That's gonna be annoying. Think about all the trolls that would spam that attack over and over and constantly harassing the carnivores that are effected by it, it would just make players want to kill them faster and not even eat them because they're poisonous imo. Having it hide in water isn't gonna help either since a Deino could kill it even if Magy was puffing up it's neck. And even coming up with counters for all of this will just seem like you're give Magy way too many abilities just to have it survive with other animals that don't need these buffs. It would make it an overall unfair and ridiculous dinosaur to play as.

If magy was an island dweller then it might have had to swim between islands for food. This might just be grasping at straws but they could make it more of a beach dweller. There are plenty of semi aquatics planned for EVRIMA, but none of them have been shown to live in the sea. They could make magy viable by letting them hide away in the ocean, eating seaweed and other vegetation close to the sea. That would let them be more viable while not having to make it outrun an allo. It would struggle a lot to defend itself against mid tier carnivores unless they make a herd of magys. Furthermore it would spread out the players around the map, and add more stuff to the coastlines. I personally really like the beaches in the isle, but they don't have enough to warrant a trip for anything other than pteras.

Another solution to make magy more survivable would be to make it a support for other herbivores in a group. Maybe it can defecate which makes plants in an area grow faster and yield more food/ boosts diets. Or maybe it's attacks don't do much damage but can stun/ knock enemies down. That would let other herbivores get in and finish the job. We are already getting hints of synergies between different herbivores in a herd. Pachies slow enemies so a stegosaurus can land the deathblow. Magy will probably be either too slow or too weak to survive alone, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's useless as long as they give it some utility.

I like your porcupine approach. Also I think if not that then make it where Magy has to eat certain food to be poisonous. When they consume these plants then the color on their necks change to indicate that they are poisonous. If they don’t eat the right food then the color fades along with the poison indicating to other Dino that they can eat them. Part of a ward system for eating the right diet

I feel like they too kthe most realistic approach with it being taken from its home from a tiny island which is Romania they would adapt to the predators getting faster more armored and add that chicken flap for intimidation making them look bigger and heavier to deter predators

@duder7396

2 жыл бұрын

the reason magy is small to begin with is because of the lack of competition and predators in the island, so it *probably* wouldn’t be realistic for it to need to intimidate something bigger than it, because in that island, probably nothing was bigger than it

imagine a 2 ton sauropod with armor on its torso and a very flexible muscular neck that can knock down enemies and reach everywhere, this means that if something like an allosaurus tries to attack a magy it would have to go for the muscular neck risking being knocked down and stomped while maybe getting in some good hits, this means that a magy player wont turn off his brain and just attack, he would either have to take advantage of his opponent getting near or get a nasty blow from the opponent, this would make magy fights tricky and fun

Amargasaurus, bajadasaurus, rebbachissurus so many sauropods that aren’t too huge but are still viable bc unlike magy these guys actually had large predators that hunted them so that evolved defense to counter attack

I really like the concept of it being able to ram animals with its body and potentially inflict bleed with its scutes

WHAT?!? You actually make Magy sound fun, unique, and viable!? I mean it's model still could use some help, it looks like a came from the Disney movie called "Dinosaur" lol.

I think they should take magys model and stretch it out and make into a diplo. The fixes you suggested for magy would force players to play as an ambush predator(and basically a worse pachy as it's harder to hide and likely less maneuverable), not to mention utahs and carnos would easily run circles around magy, not giving magy a chance to use its ability's for good damage(unlike teno and pachy, as teno needs no charge for its kicks and pachy only needs a very short distance).

@galkepic9229

2 жыл бұрын

Aren't Bulls, like almost immediately dangerous when they begin charging? Which was referred in the video as bullfighting. Just the skid and turn would be the most vulnerable bit bc neck.

@poopoodemon7928

2 жыл бұрын

@@galkepic9229 Sure. Basically a worse pachy/carno. Its harder to hide and most likely less mobile. I'm not saying its totally defenseless, just that any predator who knows to step to the side would make that special ability next to useless.

i love the idea of a dinosaur protecting itself against predators by being indigestable

For a fast sauropodomorph they could have implemented Amargasaurus or Plateosaurus, which based on studies of the musculature of their legs bones have estimates of 31 and 40 mph respectively, making them both much faster than an Allo. For an armored sauropods they could have used Saltasaurus which is famous for its armored hide or Agustinia, which had large blade-like spikes on its back. Both of these were small-ish sauropods but they weren't _Island Dwarf_ small.

Good suggestion. Scrap the "bad taste" or poison idea, it's dumb for an animal the size of Magy. It being basically a psuedo-nodosaur is a good way of giving it a way to be viable.

Magy is a sauropod evolve to thrive in islands NO BIG PREDS and little food competition basically a magy is a miniature version of a standard saupod -slow -heavy i bet my ass it doesnt have any defenses against even small preds aside from its sheer size alone

i personally think that magy does not fit into the game. the reason it died out in real life is because it lived on an isolated island within an isolated ecosystem, and a landbridge formed between mainland and the island. it got killed out, since it wasn't adapted to the predators that it suddenly found itself face-to-face with. this is why i think either it should spawn on one of those small islands if it would be included in the game, which, is really stupid since it's going to get boring and it has no contribution to the mainland ''ecosystem'', or not include it at all. OR yeah well, it's the isle so make it not the magy we know lmao, give it poison or whatever they're planning

@paulprasek1475

Жыл бұрын

Though I agree with your overall point, magy did not go extinct due to mainland predators. That fate was that of Europasaurus in the late jurassic period. As far as I am aware, magy was isolated on Hateg Island until the KT-extinction-event. It, however, was certainly not adapted to deal with any predators except giant pterosaurs.

Can you do a video that goes over all the problems up to date on evrima?

I think this works well for Magy, it should serve an offensive defensive role as a small sauropod, and personally I think having it be poisonous whilst also being fast and tanky, it's just way way too much, it doesn't let it shine in any department and even the concept of it being poisonous is ridiculous, there's a reason why only small creatures in nature are like this, it's because they're tiny and it's the only thing they can use to discourage being eaten, it can't really apply to a small sauropod built like a truck and has a ton of stuff up it's arsenal for fighting, it would just make it so discouraging to kill that they'd almost never die outside of sport killing, which wouldn't just break the "Ecosystem" it'd shatter it entirely

I think that if Magy is gonna be poisonous, the toxicity should only be able to be built up if you eat a specific plant, mushroom, etc. This would make it so that players actually have a reason to attack it and have a chance to gain a reward from the encounter instead of both players losing (the Magy because it died and whatever attacked it because it cant eat the body). I also think a good indicator of the poison being active would be if the colors got brighter and more contrasting depending on the toxin levels.

get rid of the neck flap and it would look 1000 times better. God I fucking hate that neck flap.

@galkepic9229

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe they can have it be more pronounced on just males, or have it only be super noticeable while making calls. Maybe those could be good solutions. Though it is just in the realm of taste, I'm personally just indifferent on the matter

@peachibread1983

2 жыл бұрын

@@galkepic9229 making it male specific sounds like a good counterbalance, cause I don't mind playing specific genders for dinos. It just looks gawdy to me and an eyesore.

@metah5145

2 жыл бұрын

I love it but hate it aswell.

@HHHIII4363

2 жыл бұрын

@@peachibread1983 Agreed, with the addition of making it smaller

@Josh-fj9hi

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like your a spoiled child

Magy thorns III enchantment

Great idea! cheers!

This is a good way to fix magy, just all around.

Yeah I wasnt really for or against Magy... but the playstyle of having to adjust speed to hit defensive attacks might be fun. Great video XZaguer, cant wait to see what you come up with next 👍

I'm sorry but your way to fix magy would literally be mixing the triceratops's play style and the ankylosaurus's play style together. The bull fight mechanic should definitely be the trike's unique ability because it is literally a bull on steroids and it has horns facing the front making it perfect for a charge ability. And the offensive-defense ability should also be unique to the anky because it has spikes along it's back. Magy is flawed because it came from an environment where it didn't have predators but in the isle it would, making it un-viable.

I thing the problem is that they choose a difficult animal because magy is an island dwarf and so it evolved to not need its size like other sauropods and there were no large theropods so it because weak like how the dodo lost it's ability to fly because it no longer need it but when other animals like pigs dogs monkey came they out competed them and this what magy is like kind other that not how it when extinct but it's magy is not even the same animal it most likely would lose to animals like Utah in real life but it meant to able to not even struggle with carno

I like the idea of magy having different abilities to be viable but speed and armour together are not good, they are two playstyles that contradict each other most of the time. Maybe they should give it the abilities to fractures opponents or some kind of cc, in the concept art it was shown that magy was able to make cerato fall to the ground with some kind of attack . If we give that ability fractures that can last long periods of time it could make magy more viable. The playstyle would still be heavily offensive-defensive but it would also give another reason for predators to avoid magy. This would give magy the niche of the armoured and poisonous sauropod that is specialised in fractures and cc

@indigo2018

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, but it should still have speed to outrun apexes

First of all for a ecosystom with bary and sucho and dieno and spino We need a BIGGER map

@ihavenoidea5845

2 жыл бұрын

And for a bigger map we need more players able to be on a server. I don't think we could have more than like 200 players on a servers in the next years. But otherwisse it would be nice

i mean another thing that magy can have is like minecraft thorns biting its armored areas will damage you and the maggy but not as much with the maggy

It hasn’t been released so how can you fix it?

What a minute... YOU'RE A GAME DEVELOPER?!

I always thought that the “indigestible meat” mean that Dino’s who can take chunks off and eat them wouldn’t be able to do that with magi, but instead would maybe be poisoned like vomit sickness, but when the magi was dead the poisonous meat would no longer be a thing, allowing for magi to be eaten

I think you should be on the development team

Perhaps it poison works in a halucinogetic effect and he can only get that venom via eating the mushrooms that spawn close to swamp

Make Magy take maximum advantage of being a qudrapedal with lower center of mass against bigger bipedal Carnotaurus(Make Carno regret for devolving its forelimbs). Good bleed resistance with armor against Allosaurus(Make Allo regret for having weak biteforce), and better stam than Albertosaurus(Make Alberto regret for having less stam.).

What describing is a hippopotamus and a crocodile. If you said this animal had a bird-like bone structure with dense muscle. It would make a lot of sense when it comes to the size, speed, durability, and strength. Basically regular slicing and bone-crushing Jaws would not be enough to eat this animal. Even with bone crushing teeth it will take a long time. Or risk swollen parts that you would choke on. But slicing teeth it will take even longer. Cone shape teeth nearly impossible unless you are a that bigger than what you eating. Also having a crocodile-like back Neck and tail. Only give you the option to attack the underbelly and its ankles. You don't need to give it anything on your sharp just a running at you is enough. Is going to be too hard for you to bite into so you will lose teeth. It will be able to easy camouflage in the trees. If you grabs onto it can knock you up against Rock and trees. You got the dinosaur form of a sumo wrestler playing football.

@mickalinjezerx7104

2 жыл бұрын

Oh and just so you know this is just my opinion I'm not even I don't even play this game. I'm not a gamer Noah somebody who designs games. How what and why imagination.

Just not adding it as a playable animal would probably work best for it, honestly

Little something to note, cerato can eat magy meat as cera is able to eat rotten meat or meat that's not able to be eaten by other so even tho most dinos can't eat it, doesn't mean their gonna be some that can do so

On legacy I played elic graphics and got 60+ fps my gaming laptop i play on evirma with low graphics and I get 12 FPS???

holy shit he did the impossible

If it's added and is actually faster in speed than allo I ain't touching it, though I think an attack similar to pachy alt where it jumps to the side and would spike something with its shoulder could work.

I know this is irrelevant, but does anyone else feel that carno is vastly too powerful on evrima? I just feel like there is nothing to stop it, and that it doesnt get any real penalties in exchange for it being the BIGGEST and FASTEST carnivore simaltaneously. In evrima I literally have 0 worries abour any dinos whatsoever besides carnos, they are literally the only thing that I feel like you have to take seriously in the game rn. Utah? Just instakill it if ur any herbivore. Deino? Just go drink somewhere else. Oh but Carno? Hide and pray, or outnumber them and fight. Obviously im excluding stego from this convo because as an adult its just an unkillable walking wall that doesnt really do anything.

@XZaguer

2 жыл бұрын

It's possible they are overtooned but I would wait until bigger Dino's come up to see if something changes

I went from looking for legacy servers to how to fix maggy, nice.

I would prefer Europasaurus over Magyrosaurus, it's way cuter, slighty larger but still small and i can see it running faster than an Allosaurus.

@louisianimal24

2 жыл бұрын

Dinosaurs aint supposed to be cute…

@galkepic9229

2 жыл бұрын

Well it certainly do look cute. It was probably the sauropod the devs mentioned that they wish they knew prior. But we don't have any sauropods that hold their neck vertically rn either so some variation I suppose

@darkonyx6995

2 жыл бұрын

@@galkepic9229 Yeah, they also could twist it's anatomy slighty and make it's legs longer for galloping faster and a more slim build

I think your proposed magy is just a kentro that likes tackle football. Not bad, but why put in all the work of sprinting into other animals when you can just play kentro, face your tail towards your enemy and be invincible

idk about the isle that much but a good counter to poisonous herbis could be a small carnivore that has the ability to tolerate poisonous meat n plants but only in a very specific playstyle where other things are nerfed like speed, or how much damage you do you might be able to be able to eat pretty much anything, but in turn you're easy to kill and weak, or something like that

@sultanofswag8901

2 жыл бұрын

Magys only defense kicks in after its dead. Great game design

When I fist heard of magy, I was hoping it would be a mouse like creature or like how it said, armoured sauropod. But we got, this

@gergelyhorvath6826

2 жыл бұрын

Bc Magy is a reptile irl xd

i would do what u did but a bit different instead of momentum i would think like dibble but defensive and tanky instead of offensive and fast now like dibble who still has good health magy would have still decent speed and good stam and could knock over or stun allo sized dinos and smaller (allo would be stunned not knocked over) giving magy the chance to gore it with its shoulder bash meaning stop its attack or bait out an attack or be heavily punished either u get punished or do the punishing

Instead of being poisonous magys spike should produce a nerotoxin that tripples bleed so if any predator tries to attack the magy not only will it bleed its bleed tripples and also magy should have weak spots to give the predator a chance

If you are going for accuracy, the Magy went fucking extinct because it’s Island made contact with the mainland that had giant carnivores that hunted them out of existence. Carnivores not even as big as the ones in the Isle. That’s the case with a few dinosaurs if you put them all in one environment. Dilophosaurus couldn’t compete with Utah. The Apexes would wipe each other out with one remaining but would still have a lot of trouble with smaller faster carnivores out competing them and their young who take up those niches as they grow up.

@paulprasek1475

Жыл бұрын

Small correction. Hateg Island did not make contact with the mainland until after the non-avian dinosaurs were already extinct. What you describe is what happened to Europasaurus in the late jurassic. Though yes, Magy would have been absolutely crushed by mainland competition, no doubt.

@gendygoblin8391

Жыл бұрын

@@paulprasek1475 OH OK! Thank you for that. I just remembered it was a small sauropod species that had that happen so that clears it up. Magy was the one terrorized by giant Pterosaurs though if I remember correctly though.

@gendygoblin8391

Жыл бұрын

@@paulprasek1475 they really should have just had it be an NPC Dino for others to eat or something. Like how Warthogs and deer would not survive a Dinosaur ecosystem.

@paulprasek1475

Жыл бұрын

@@gendygoblin8391 Hatzegopterix to be precise, amazing animals. And yes, I would love some ambient dinosaur AI just to keep players engaged. Magy would have been an excellent opportunity for that concept to be explored.

00:03 hungary had transylvania in past

i know it's late to comment this but I might have an idea that would at least...at least make the 'unedible meat' viable make it useful for ceratosaurus and other venom dinosaurs by consuming the meat to buff their venom capabilities

Out of all the sauropods the devs could have chosen, WHY magy?

not gonna lie not sure if it was said but I think personally magy should be poisonous but only after consuming a certain type of plant that others cant eat also this would slightly change the skin from dull to quite bright and easily viewable sot hat way magy could still be killed.

Just give me the yeet ability and im happy

It would bei a counter part of the Carno charche.

Soooo just thorns from Minecraft

How can we determine If something is broken and needs fixing, when no one has even played as them yet?

How to fix Dino that isn’t out yet

It certainly is a fun idea and these ideas of trying to work with creativity and instead of shutting one another down when it comes to the same game. Making it enjoyable for all, and I see it using parts of its biology, and somewhat of its concept art here as well. Its good to brainstorm and have fun with these matters. As this is how you come with the best and creative solutions even if they aren't the end solution itself.

I think that, if the devs want dumb little things like Magy to truly work, they need to make the game more hardcore. Dondi’s said multiple times that he wants the game to be a hardcore survival-horror experience. It just isn’t difficult at all right now. To make combat more punishing and to encourage players to be more careful when engaging in it, injuries and (eventually) illnesses should last for a long time and incur multiple debuffs, ESPECIALLY fractures.

@markangelogarcia2584

Жыл бұрын

yeah and the ANKY who is suppose to fend off rex attacks cant even survive not kill a rex LMAO

When I think of this creature, ya kniw maybe the spikes, but the speed? No it dhould be slower than a steg it should have a whipping tail attack and indigestible meat?- nah nah nah

How to fix it, just tweak the model and make it Amargasaurus

it doesnt need to be fixed .-. it can throw small tier creatures and shoulder check ones around its size and if it doesnt think it can win then its fast enough to run away

@tree8788

2 жыл бұрын

I think the only thing needing to be fixed is the indigestible mechanic and speed. I can agree that magy could be faster than an allo but I think its stamina should be far lower, so it makes sense both gameplay and science wise. But the indigestible corpse sounds stupid. That gives no reason to fight in a pvp survival game and turns you into creative mode while others are in survival.

@CurseOfVanishingI

2 жыл бұрын

@@tree8788 magy is made for cerato and vise versa that’s why it’s non edible so cera can have so food to it self sense it will have to compete with ppl of the same species and u can still fight u just won’t get anything out of it unless ur a cera which I think is cool how they have Dino’s mad for each other like Ava and velo and Austro and Proto

@tree8788

2 жыл бұрын

@@CurseOfVanishingI I do agree that making a rivalry between cera and magy is cool, and I agree that a mechanic that only functions against each other is cool, but I think non edible other than cera is a bad choice for the mechanic. It makes it basically invincible to every thing other than ceras and kos players. It will make the game boring to every other players including magy itself. Is it fun to experience almost no threat playing as a herbivore? Itll turn the gameplay into one of those roblox afk farming games. Indigestible body, speed, and armor… sounds overpowered in a survival game to me. To balance magy youre gonna need to take out at least one of those mechanics, and I think the indigestible body is the one to go. I would rather have a thrilling gameplay defending myself from predators my size and feel scared even after I outrun an apex since they can still catch up while I regen stamina, than play among us with 1 impostor in a full lobby.

@CurseOfVanishingI

2 жыл бұрын

@@tree8788 there’s all types of herbivores that don’t come into any pvp type scenarios I’ve played hours and hours of pt and hypsi with out a ounce of pvp

@CurseOfVanishingI

2 жыл бұрын

@@tree8788 and do u know what game your playing? There’s ppl who kill for fun and cera is extremely popular so magy will never not be boring unless for some reason ceras just decide not to attack them

I've never even seen this dino in game, is it only certain servers?

@galkepic9229

2 жыл бұрын

It is currently in development in the evrima branch of the game. Not playable yet for us but HOPEFULLY relatively soon.

@colecampbell1906

2 жыл бұрын

@@galkepic9229 then idk how tf anyone is talking about fixing something that is only a theory rn lmao.

@galkepic9229

2 жыл бұрын

@@colecampbell1906 its fun to speculate, plus i thinks it's phrased overall just due to the overall response it got from alot of players. I think it's just a good fu bit of brainstorming

@colecampbell1906

2 жыл бұрын

@@galkepic9229 yea I get that, but the title should've been "what stats/abilities should magy have" rather than "how to fix magy". You can't fix it if it's still just a thought. Until it's in the game and has all the stats and stuff figured out for it, you can't fix it. That's like having a "how to fix titanaboa" video, just doesn't make sense if there's nothing to fix.

@bazamere

2 жыл бұрын

@@colecampbell1906 this video is more along the lines of "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure"... there is nothing wrong with spending time trying to make sure a playable dino will be successful when it is launched as opposed to hating it when its released because its just not fun to play. Also the isle is slow to release playables right now and there is plenty of discussion on what people would like to see with the playables already released. I think putting out opinions from the playerbase on what we think of the concepts the devs have released to us is a good way to get us interested in future playables at the same time as possibly giving the devs an idea what their player base is looking for 😁

Counterpoint: Magy is perfect no matter what and will always have a place in my heart no matter what they do with it.

@pilot_bruh576

2 жыл бұрын

Same

Make it a fast creature that can outrun Rex and fight/stun allo then you got a good dino

heres how we fix it get rid of it for one it had no real defences and was a island dwarf and died to pretty much everthing 2 add somthing that will actually make the people happy boom problem solved and if im correct im pretty sure they didnt have posion in its meat 0>0

poison dart frog

also its not heavy armor its just "im stronger than ur average mid tier" armor

OMG has no one noticed, these Dino’s, has had 65 million years of evolution, on Isla spire, THERE SHOULD NOT BE MUCH REALISM!

I kinda should stop crying omg i mean you dont have to play it if you dont want to

@zarkento4881

2 жыл бұрын

You should kinda stop whining omg I mean you don't have to listen to other people's opinions if you don't like them

Not quite sure how I would fix magy but I do know how I would fix stego without changing its stats.

@HHHIII4363

2 жыл бұрын

How would you fix stego?

@stevynn

2 жыл бұрын

I’m actually working on a video rn about it, and I plan on uploading it sometime next week. I won’t say rn tho since there is a lot to it.

@HHHIII4363

2 жыл бұрын

@@stevynn Owh, cool cool

@pilot_bruh576

2 жыл бұрын

I feel like deleting it ngl

search up hippo running and tell me that looks realist go on ill wait...you back exactly it doesnt look realistic looks like it would be slow asf but its not so why cant yall belive magy's speed

@paulprasek1475

2 жыл бұрын

I mean hippos can be quite speedy but only compared to humans. Most other animals that could body it are also able to outspeed it. Being able to flee underwater however is an amazing adaptation to avoid large predator packs.

@CurseOfVanishingI

2 жыл бұрын

@@paulprasek1475 there’s videos of hippos chasing down lions and killing them

@sultanofswag8901

2 жыл бұрын

Because expert paleontologists who know more than you do don't belive it either.

@CurseOfVanishingI

2 жыл бұрын

@@sultanofswag8901 that wasn’t my point I’m saying that something can look ridiculous and still work another example is when I picked up this small little crab bout as big as a baseball thinking it’s pinch wouldn’t hurt and low and behold it stung like hell. This can look silly but still turn out ok

JUST REMOVE IT!!! that POISONUS thing is awful shoving poison into this herbi just to make it viable which is it isnt a small sauropod in a game full of apexes and raptors lmao cama and pue are kinda ok too bad devs are reluctant to put big dinos and or herbis that can fight off or kill apexes LOLS

Magy being faster than Allo really isn't all that unrealistic. I think people underestimate how fast sauropods really were. Maybe not if it's also going to have armor, but still

All they need is creativity. Spinosaurus would've sucked if they didn't make it some JP3 copy. I don't get why there's no outrage about spinosaurus being heaver than t-rex in this game. So magyarosaurus being faster than allosaurus honestly isn't a big deal in my eyes.

@realdaggerman105

2 жыл бұрын

I think it’s that they really emphasised Spinos bulky, while not emphasising Magys speed or prominent armour.

@galkepic9229

2 жыл бұрын

@@varatic644 with amargasaurus being able to get up to 30mph (the speed of a white rhino according to study) I think magy could reasonably make that or just a lil above. Not faster then allo

Magyarosaurus=Hungarian dinosaur

Don’t agree. A lot of this is your personal opinion based on nothing but how you see the game. The idea people will be mad if their dinosaur is poisonous and can’t be eaten by most carnivores, because if they die then the enemy can’t eat them…. Makes absolutely no sense. Lol. It’s not an actual criticism of merit. What do you care what happens to your characters body after? People get salty and whine when they die, regardless of why. Structuring the game around whiners who can’t handle losing isn’t a successful path forward. And it is Such an odd idea. What other steps does the other player NEED to follow in order for their killing of you to be “fair” so you won’t be mad? It makes no sense. How much of you needs to be eaten? Why wouldn’t you be outraged if only half the body is eaten? Or maybe only 2 bites is eaten. Are you outraged then, also? It’s a strange criticism that I feel has no merit.

maggy = para in legacy lol useless af XD

XD?XD?XD?XD?XD?XD?XD? Sup