The Iron Man Match: Shawn Michaels tells it all about Wrestlemania XII
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Shawn Michaels, The Heartbreak Kid, Recalls Legendary 'Iron Man Match' Against Bret Hart - Full Episode Interview
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Hosted by former Super Bowl MVP Julian Edelman and comedian Sam Morril, Games with Names is a sports history podcast on a search to find the greatest games of all time. From the infamous to the unforgettable, Jules and Sam dive back into the classic matchups and eras across all of sports history. Joined by the players, coaches, and celebrity fans that lived it, we’ll uncover first-hand insights and never-before-heard stories, shining new light and perspective on the greatest games in sports history.
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HBK is a legend! So happy to see him with these guys!
Other than Michael Jackson this man right here HBK was my childhood hero and idol growing up, even to this day he's still my hero😂😂💔
@JohnSmith-nf8bi
Жыл бұрын
Do you think michael Jackson did any of the pedo stuff?
@510m8
Жыл бұрын
Lol both named Michael
@NK-wy8wp
Жыл бұрын
Same with both. Glad I got to see MJ in concert, and HBK live in action.
@510m8
Жыл бұрын
@@NK-wy8wp you’re very fortunate
@alexf5919
Жыл бұрын
@@NK-wy8wp so lucky dude
Love you Shawn 💗🧸
@gameswithnamespod
Жыл бұрын
HBK forever 💪
My favorite guest so far 👏🏻
My favorite wrestler and football player, can’t get any better than this!
@hbk42581
Жыл бұрын
My sentiments exactly
Love seeing Shawn Michaels here. I meet him at WWF New York in 2002, when he came out in the wheelchair for the match with Triple H. I was the guy in a red shirt holding this big ass frame of one of his playgirl photos, the one where he is sitting in jeans with one leg up and look at the camera make those HBK faces he makes lol. And when I saw the playback, I noticed they blurred out the photo and really never knew why until I saw, what WWE wants you to forget, and that’s that he posed for play girl. He looked at it twice but kept in with his promo. He then later on did a signing and I was able to meet him, and wrote a biblical verse under his signature. The girl friend I was with cried when we met him and he said, “I hope those are tears of joy.” I know he had this issues but I truly love this dude for every piece of entertainment he gave us. Julian Edelman as one of my favorite receivers of all time, who played my all time favorite QB Tom Brady, thank you for this.
HBK really the 🐐
@LeoWhalen1933
Жыл бұрын
If by HBK you mean Bret Hart then I agree😁
Bret Hart guy here.. shawn has an incredible mind for the business and it shows beautifully here
Shawn FN Michaels! HBK!!! Living legend Beyond Forever 💔💔💔💔
Greatest performer of all time
@johndoe-fq7ez
2 ай бұрын
easily
How is this podcast not blowing up faster than it is?
@trentaccid2177
9 ай бұрын
Basically everyone watching this think these two guys are like gayish . There is something about them you just don't like. Notice the beard guy with jeans on the way he crosses his legs .
@LeoWhalen1933
4 ай бұрын
@@trentaccid2177I didnt notice any of that. Maybe you are gay?
@TomGunna88
4 ай бұрын
@@trentaccid2177 Why the hell does that matter?
HBK is my all time favorite wrestler. Love that man for the wrestler and the human that he is.
I LOVE to see Sam talk wrestling.
I think 8.8 is fair because both Shawn Michaels and Bret Hart were two of the best to ever do it, but I also think you under scored the 28-3 Pats vs Falcons game. That game was one for the history books and I'm so glad I got to see it as it was happening! Huge Pats fan here and an even bigger fan of Jules! #11 will always be my MVP ❤️
@austinshockey9274
5 ай бұрын
My wife had never watched footbtall until that year - we live in California; Im a huge Tom Brady/ Pats fan, and taught her about football. I had not properly prepared her for the Brady hate lol... She asked me, why are you a Tom Brady fan? That season just before he came back from suspension. I explained how it didn't matter what situation the patriots were in - they're the best team on the field, because of lots of reasons - but Brady has that thing where back up against it you just don't count him out, because when it matters most he makes the play. And his guys go to the wall for him because of it. 28-3 was her first super bowl ever, after dealing with a lot of Brady hate all year long - learning about football and screaming on Third downs with me all year long "THERE YOU GO JULES!! Who do we trust babe?? JULIAN EDELMAN!" What a great time to get her into the Patriots.
@riaandherfurbabies
5 ай бұрын
@austinshockey9274 that's awesome! It was definitely a great time, and although I still am a Patriots fan, always will be, I'm not sure it will ever be like it was when Brady and Julian were playing.
Great episode boys
Born in 91 yall! Oohhh, I grew up watching wrestling in the mid and late 90s, loved this ep!
Absolutely you got to score this one high because not only was it the first Iron Man match in WWE at Wrestlemania you have two pioneers of their time when wrestlers we're not High Flyers both of these guys put on a show for the ages on the grandest stage of the all Main Eventing WrestleMania for the Title. Also Shawn Michaels was the first ladder match in WWE history again showing off how talented he was. In the ladder match he defended his Intercontinental Championship successfully accounts Razor Ramon. Also Shawn Michaels was the first to participate in Hell in a Cell against Taker. Shawn is one of the greatest to ever do it and a true pioneer of what we see today. But you definitely have to put it into perspective when watching these matches because they were the first compared to today where it is commonplace. Sometimes over done
@PTminatoPT
5 ай бұрын
Actually the very first ladder match in WWE was Bret vs Shawn when Bret pitched the idea of a ladder match to Vince!
Shout out to Sam And Julian. This is great podcast and I'm late to the party.. why didn't you ever promo this one.. still love you bro.. now that Julian is retired seeing the nonfootball side of him is great. He has the Rizz as the kids say
I was born in 1987... I have always loved wrestling but it was THE THING in the late 90s and early 2000s.
Epic episode Wrestling has been such a part of pop culture and our upbringings. Always love the pro athlete wrestler convos
It’s so wholesome him being so humble now
I'm not your boy toy...
@foxholiday4308
Ай бұрын
Sexy boy!
Bret and Shawn had such amazing chemistry even survivor series 97 was a great match until the screw job. People forget how good the match was.
@joshtassie9478
6 ай бұрын
Besides Shawn vs bret this was the worse WM ever! These guys clearly no nothing about wwf/wcw
@aaronjackson9385
5 ай бұрын
It really was..it was amazing..flawless execution, logical attacks, great transitions and ebbs and flows.
Hey Jules, what about Undertaker vs Mankind WWE Hell in the Cell 👍👍
What a legend and a stand up human being first match I could remember watching was a Monday Night Raw (think this was 1995) when Owen Hart kicked him in the back of the head and Shawn had an "concussion" man my ass cried my eyes out.. From that point on, I was hooked to WWF.
Here are some game ideas....Spurs over Heat 2014 finals ending the big 3 Ray Allen's corner 3 in the finals (or Ray Allen '96 Big East championship vs. Iverson/Georgetown) Andrew Luck 2014 playoff comeback against the Chiefs That bowler who said "who do you think you are, I am"
Back in the day, Raw was 9-11.. it eventually went to 8-11... but even 11 pm was not a dead stop time, sometimes the show would run 5-10 minutes over.
lol Julian talking about getting suspended for doing the dx suck it gesture. I know we ask got a story about it. My favorite story was when the suck it gesture was well old by time I got to high school in 06 and we had a school assistant in a wheelchair and he would help Native kids like myself out and get us to understand and focus on work. So I see him rolling down hallway kinda far and I hell my homie imma get Scott and I do the suck it 🙅🏽🙅🏽 all fast to sorta see if he understood the reference so I can see his reaction. He keeps rollin towards us and does it back but it looked so much smoother then mine.
Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels to me are the greatest wrestlers of all time!
Let’s go!!!
Love him giving Tully some props ❤
HBK- Living Legend Unanimous Top 3 wrestler of All Time
HBK has been my hero since 1995 and he will always be my favorite. Im pretty smart to the tricks of the trade but I had never heard they had a number system
This is dope!!
A regular match is an episode of friends. This match was a novel on par with The Stand.
18:14 “Jesse “The Ventura” Jackson”. This is single-handedly the best thing I’ve ever heard.
Shawn and Bret were pretty close to the time period. Now mindset yes very different.
I follow you from Spain. Here we loved Triple H jeff Hardy, Batista. Even there was a rumour that said Undertaker and Kane were brothers from Spain, I don´t konw how it started. BTW Edelman is a crack, funny guy hehe. It woud be huge a program with Gasol brothers about the all star they played together.
Jules do you remember doctor x, pepper Gomez, Vern Gagne, black Jack Lanza, going way back in high school.
Yoooo. Ever since the Gronk ep i been tapped in to this show. Then I saw The sheriff on. Cool stuff. But now HBk??? Crazy!
The Bodega Cat hat, is hard
You guys forgot to ask Shawn if he told Bret, to leave the ring in not so nice language lol
@tygodhumbling4446
7 ай бұрын
Lol I think Bret brought it up in their interview with JR. I believe Shawn said he didn’t remember but it’s obvious that he said it. However some people pointed out that it looked like he intended it to be for Jose and that the referee misunderstood and thought it was for Bret. You can see him glancing at Jose as he entered the ring while he says it. The referee then looked at Jose and hesitated before going to Bret instead. It looked like he was confused on who the message was for. He also went to tell the referee the same thing again just after the ref told Bret that. Unless he wanted them both out.
Having more wrestlers would be good.
John cena and Shawn’s iron man match was the greatest wrestling match I’ve ever seen
I’m related to HBK and I wanna meet him!
Shawn michaels is proof all those good looks fade away with age. He was a stud back in the late 90s
Wrestlemania 12 was literally on the day I was born and the pond (Honda center) is like 20 minutes from the hospital I was born at lol… doesn’t really mean shit but I always kind of thought that was cool haha
🐐
I love when my world's collide. :)
18:13 jesse the ventura jackson. hahaha
I love Julien Edelman
One time in 96’ i was pretending to dance to Sexy Boy in my mirror at home…when i felt the most unbelievable dope SLAP across the back of my head 😅 It was my older bro who caught me and thought it was a little too girly 😂😂😂.
JE is combining the colts moving to indy and Cleveland moving to baltim
I wish i couldve heard sam talk more to shawn.
What’s the cartoon over Shawn’s shoulder ???
Texas USC!
Setting up angle with pat for mania? I'm down with that
RIP Woman/Nancy Benoit, Chris killed her in that terrible murder suicide
Oh wow! Cool! Edelman’s winning me over here.
His eye is much better with glasses
Jules please get Joe Montana and Jerry Rice on your show! Maybe Steve young too!!
HBK you were my childhood man!, shout out to NWO too!
If i was blindfolded I would have guessed HBKs voice for Stone Colds, regardless was a fan of the rockers then and still am today!! That sweet sweet chin music for me was the best finisher. In moto boots to boot lol. Marty's name is fun to say out loud, lol. Marty Jannetty!!
It not called given someone the Socko...The sock is called Mr.Socko.....The move is the mandible Claw
I appreciate the research but you guys could’ve done a lot better. But I guess I’m gonna be harsh about this match considering I’m a wrestling fan.
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Mad respect to wrestlers in this era , honestly i didnt like shawn micheals back in the day mostly cuz of his music. Being older now i like you now shaun M.
What happened to the show???
i don't understand the big deal about the iron man match concept. i mean, not that i don't respect it, but bret was having those iron man matches throughout the 90's with flair, owen, and curt henning. maybe it was b/c he was older by the time he did it with shawn?
@KylePrime_1986
10 ай бұрын
Bret was definitely going 30 maybe even 45 mins but in the WWF they didn't do 60 mins. The NWA days the champion would usually go do an hour because they still had time limits and world title matches were 60 minute time limits and it was a way to have a draw so neither guy lost any momentum
Hbk single handedly saved WrestleMania 9... Before sweet chin music
How could you not mention Joel Embiid during the ( suck it ) talk?
He called NXT next hahahaha
Remember when Shawn threw Marty Jannetty through the glass in Brutus The Barber Beefcakes shop on WWF Superstar lol little did we know that one was going to be a Superstar and legend and Marty become irrelevant
@kevinmcclintock5492
9 ай бұрын
Marty threw himself through that window. Heenan called it! Lol.
So I love Julz, Bostonian, YES, guilty. He's training like an amateur or novice would. 3-3min rounds, usually is what an amateur fight consists of. Ton of respect, tho I don't think he needs anymore head shots.
Stop interrupting the Legend...let him speak!
I was Hitman guy too. Shawn Micheals back then hes whole character was a male stripper.
Jesse “The Ventura” Jackson
Jules had me laughing right from the beginning with his red-faced, veins-bulging, spot-on Hulk Hogan impersonation! 🤣 Love you, Jules, and love this show!! 💙
Good job. Edelman was an all time wide receiver. 3 rings and no HOF??? Ok. I have only seen two others near as good in the slot: Wes Welker and Antonio Brown. I would take Edelman
@GlennDubski88
Жыл бұрын
Before or after the steriods he got suspended for?
@joshtassie9478
6 ай бұрын
I love Edelman too... but we forget what Welker did and was... he created the slot receiver..... we never heard the slot till wes..... go look back at dudes stats 112,111,123,86,122,118 then Tom took a pay cut to keep his guy and bill let him go to denver!!!! That's how edleman was created.... cause bill saw a cheaper guy that would take the hits to be Tom's friend lol..... if they resign Wes for 3 years he has another 300 catches and we don't get to see what Julien could become
HBK GOAT
How is Edelman the comedic relief? Sam is like an Acquired pallet. Stepped on hosts toes during the interview. And picked a QB as first pick in the draft??? Malo malo malo.
Stone Cold started the attitude era. Bret is the one who made Stone Cold. The I quit/submission match. Austin passes out bloody in the sharp shooter. Hart and Austins rivalry started the attitude era.
@ZingyLemur
6 ай бұрын
Shit stone cold started the attitude Era at King Of The Ring when Austin 3:16 was born. You had Austin an Brets fued but you got to remember with DX when it was just Shawn hunter an Chyna they brought the really edgy stuff to tv.
Its so hard watchin 2 guys who really dont know anything about wrestling have a certified legend on their pod
What happened to this show?
Gotta love two guys who don't know what the hell they're talking about, talking about it anyway. Shawn wasn't a heel here, Bret was a 3 time Champion going into this, and he and Shawn didn't hate each other yet (that came later). Please do some better research.
The Anvil
Hell HBK got his lazy eye from a match with kane. I had my back fused in the same place he was injured I believe he got fusion too. I know how much pain im in and I don't know how he came back and I can't believe he wrestled at mania 14. I have never experienced such pain. My 2 discs got smashed when i got run over by a car. I was crying because of the pain for 48 hours straight. I also woke up in the middle of back surgery and that was horrible. What he did after that injury will forever have me questioning if he's not a cyborg
I think the better match was the wrestlemania match between Ricky steamboat in macho man Randy savage. Think both competed and I thought macho man has a advantage with lady Elizabeth being in his corner but Ricky steamboat prevailed in the end. I think if you have 10 matches macho man may win 78 and just at night Ricky steamboat prevails
These guys have no idea what they’re talking about XD
@i2solid4u
Жыл бұрын
Seriously…and they even bragged about doing research…🤦♂️
Josh allen going to be the reason I win this week 😂😂😂😂
As a kid HBK was my favorite. My question has always been, what was HBKs gimmick supposed to be exactly?? I think he was supposed to be a male prostitute...
The hitman was the better man and 2 times the wrestler shawn m. was....bret is one of my top best wrestler of all time
Great shirt Jewels. That was the game where I fell in love with football and was introduced to the goat. Boring first half....then. Beyond Andre and Hogan not wrestling here.
@LeoWhalen1933
Жыл бұрын
And he wasn't even playing yet.
Jules you could pull it off dude atleast for awhile .....idk if your old football body could take that shit for long lol
Is there a reason the guy with the jeans keeps like playing with himself. It's like strange it aggravates the watcher I turned it off.
Damn, Julz doesn't know much. That HHH/helwig match was a squash. It's Iron Man Match, not iron match.
I bet Mick Foley would do the W.M.B.D. Pod.
Who else cringed when they called nxt next 😭
@muffinsloveeating1187
6 ай бұрын
Me. You can tell they didn’t do some research, but it was still a good interview.
Wow did you guys really just bring up Woman? Are you not aware her name was Nancy Benoit? Or, you know, her awful fate?
Hbk had to be on steroids to get that shape , especially if he wasn't really into working out that much or know much ..I just wish he said what he took
@elizabeth3280
3 ай бұрын
lol there are plenty of folks on roids that have horrible physique's. Many of his friends claim his genetics are wild to which he could have been a beast if he tried, dieted and whatnot