The Invincible Comp Explained! No Morgan, No Problem!

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It's been awhile since we had another reason to do an explained video! This latest installment focuses on the extremely powerful invincible comp! In the video I talk about every aspect to run it effectively. Including what to do if you don't have morgan, who the substitutes are, what the problems are with the comp and what can cause it to fail! We get rather long winded, but its well worth the watch!
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  • @Khadroth
    @Khadroth Жыл бұрын

    I probably should have left the discussion of the mystic codes until later, but I wanted to setup the discussion in such a way that we could focus on the actual comp options for the majority of the video without breaking flow. Still in this I talk about things to watch out for with regards to when not to use the comp, how it can fail on you, and what your options are for variations. It's entirely possible to make other variants work depending on the gravity of the fight as well. Hope you guys find this informative, and thank you as always for watching! Happy Hunting in the Lotto on JP!

  • @Predhead
    @Predhead Жыл бұрын

    I feel like this would have been stronger if you'd explained the full comp and what it wants to do and its members and codes before breaking everything down individually to highlight options.

  • @NotSoGoodDark
    @NotSoGoodDark Жыл бұрын

    "you can't lose a servant at turn one" Enemy Berserkers: Are you sure about that?

  • @frds_skce

    @frds_skce

    Жыл бұрын

    Me with an Arash and two Chen Gong, all of them equipped with self-sufficient batter to NP at turn one: "Observe."

  • @bernardchan181
    @bernardchan181 Жыл бұрын

    I’ve recently have been tackling all CQ’s with Himiko Merlin and Castoria; I love big crits.

  • @CrazyYurie
    @CrazyYurie Жыл бұрын

    I've cheesed every challenge quest since Himiko came out via Himiko/Castoria/Merlin

  • @Asleep_maybeNot
    @Asleep_maybeNot Жыл бұрын

    Personally if I don't get morgan i can do it with Himiko so we chillin

  • @ricksanchez6766

    @ricksanchez6766

    Жыл бұрын

    Himiko is better for it anyway if you can’t quickly kill the enemy with Morgan and they have AOE attacks

  • @msj3888

    @msj3888

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol same plus reines np upgrade coming too

  • @kingofexecution.9710

    @kingofexecution.9710

    Жыл бұрын

    Ah yes the crit star's

  • @ryanwest6035

    @ryanwest6035

    Жыл бұрын

    Or you can just grab a support NP5 Level 120 Morgan.....

  • @jefffgo7154

    @jefffgo7154

    Жыл бұрын

    i have castoria and merlin, just need support np5 morgan

  • @Jasons_Argo
    @Jasons_Argo Жыл бұрын

    39:45 - 43:07 I LOVE how Khad really had to fish for nice things to say about Quick. 40 minutes of how to setup the comp, and how the other 2 cards compare with each other, then not even 4 minutes on how Quick has supports that don’t really work and we should just use the other 2 instead of Quick lol! Here’s hoping the devs pull a bunny waifu out of their hat for anniversary and finally get us that update to Quick they said they were working on.

  • @scottstw456
    @scottstw456 Жыл бұрын

    Your content is so good! Thank you Khad.

  • @gatz900
    @gatz9004 ай бұрын

    love your videos! Thank you for doing this

  • @tsf9600
    @tsf9600 Жыл бұрын

    Whenever I'm not sure how to handle a particular fight, or if I'm sure I'm gonna deal with annoying gimmicks I don't want to put up with, I pretty much just use Merlin/Himiko/Castoria. I only take potshots with Himiko but her critical damage is high enough to punch through most problems in a few hits, meanwhile Castoria can NP every other turn to protect the party from anything without buff removal. Even if Castoria NPs solo, with an Overcharge buff from Himiko she's still getting at least 3 hits which is full protection from basically anything for at least one turn. This comp is more on the grindy side but its seriously almost invincible. A more offensive alternative imo would be Summer BB if you can lock down Himiko's cards, which trades healing and per-turn NP batteries for removing charges from enemies and, ideally, 3 turns of Himiko absolutely destroying everything. I don't particularly favor Morgan but she can definitely expand horizons with her kit and class, especially if Castoria can consistently NP to protect her (oh the irony).

  • @belleboni2016
    @belleboni2016 Жыл бұрын

    I'm just happy to have both Castoria and OG Merlin, now I'm free of using any good DPS for this comp. I know surely one of my friend who will NP5 Morgan maxed skilled, maxed fou, and level 120 with good CC... Hahaha lucky to have a leviathan in your friendlist.

  • @individualywrappedcheeseslices
    @individualywrappedcheeseslices Жыл бұрын

    Himiko is the best for this comp imo from experience. Morgan at NP1 being a berserker and only one level OC is rough compared to Himiko at NP1 and ruler class in general. That star gen every turn can’t be understated. It’s slower for sure but I think survival rate has to be around 20% better from my personal experience.

  • @arthurmarmocathala

    @arthurmarmocathala

    Жыл бұрын

    I haven't tried it, since I don't have reines in my JP account, but I'm pretty sure the safest version is when you swap the damage dealer with reines, since she has an arts NP negates class disadvantage, increases NP gain and gives overcharge. So not only you'll get to your NPs quite quickly, but in the turns you're uncovered you'll not only have the healing from one of the merlins, but also her damage cut and defense up... but it will be extremely slow, still probably the safest version of the comp tho.

  • @merlinswife
    @merlinswife Жыл бұрын

    thank you for giving a balanced comparison of merlin vs proto merlin cuz i keep seeing reactionaries saying merlin is dead and that is just not true. there's just more options now

  • @andrewsisson6536
    @andrewsisson6536 Жыл бұрын

    I remember feeling lazy and wading through a challenge quest with double-Merlin Jeanne. It was SLOOOOW. like 60-some turns. But I didn't lose anybody.

  • @PhoenixBlazer39
    @PhoenixBlazer39 Жыл бұрын

    I used this comp a day or two ago to beat the final boss of Lostbelt 6 Part 1. Now, because their normal attacks were AoE, it wasn't exactly invulnerable, but it still kept me from having to look up and have to plan a more intricate team around it. Never, and i mean NEVER, have I ever appreciated Merlin's healing as much as now, cause the sheer amount of regen was the only thing that kept my team alive for so long. That, and Cassie's invuls and debuff clear. Took me 22 turns. Admittedly, it might've possibly gone faster if I used a different damage dealer, but I was really excited to use my shiny new Morgan.

  • @anarbor2282
    @anarbor2282 Жыл бұрын

    Already have Merlin and artoria, Cant wait for Morgan to become immortal

  • @Phantom_of_Black
    @Phantom_of_Black Жыл бұрын

    On thing I would like to add to the Arts options - Tezcatlipolca. A comp of Tezca, Lady Avalon and Castoria you can start the battle with the NP combo with no need of mana-loading or starting charge CEs. Tezca: 50% own Charge skill, 30% Castoria Charisma and 20% Lady Avalon Charisma Lady Avalon: 20% from own passive, 30% Tezca charge, another 50% from both Charismas Castoria: 30% Tezca's charge, 50% from both Charisma skills, remaining 20% from her targeted charge skill used on herself.

  • @VKattou
    @VKattou Жыл бұрын

    I kind of wish you'd have touched a bit on Craft Essence options. You only off-handedly mention Prisma Cosmos for the supports at one point, but don't really go into any alternatives, nor mention anything about CEs for the damage dealer. I guess it's not really an integral part of the composition, as it's mainly about the characters working off of each other, with CEs just being bonuses. But it doesn't really feel like a complete guide without, which is kind of too bad, since you actually go in-depth with actual character alternatives instead of the easy option of just going "Just roll for Morgan lmao".

  • @JiryStark
    @JiryStark Жыл бұрын

    So far, Himiko-Merlin-Castoria has been AMAZING for me in NA. As long as enemies don't remove buffs, big, and I mean BIG, crits and absolute invencibility is SO much fun.

  • @himmel_channel
    @himmel_channel Жыл бұрын

    unfortunately, I might(still deciding) skip the 1st Morgan run since I don't have Castoria yet 😢 I need her for my Muramasa

  • @kodymcbride6901
    @kodymcbride6901 Жыл бұрын

    Honestly at this point all I need is a copy of Morgan, already got most of everything else.

  • @sonokawaray
    @sonokawaray9 ай бұрын

    Buster variants have gotten the job done for me, with either Himiko or Morgan in the third slot. Himiko's 2 overcharge stacks vs Morgan's 1 can make a difference if you need maximum turtling power from Castoria, and if you can get Himiko's face cards at the right time she can land some pretty satisfying buster crits. Morgan meanwhile has more consistent damage output and a targetable battery, which can make fights a bit shorter and less card RNG-dependent. Just gotta watch your defenses more, due to having 4 invuln stacks instead of 5, plus zerker Morgan not being able to take a punch as well as a Ruler can should an attack get through. In the end either setup gets the job done, so I'd say it's case-by-case on which one is gonna work better.

  • @LocoCocoaBrah
    @LocoCocoaBrah Жыл бұрын

    Would a comp of Skadiw/ mlb prisma cosmos and healing CCs as protector and Santa Martha or Assclepus work for a quick invul comp

  • @LuminousOriens
    @LuminousOriens10 ай бұрын

    I don't have either Castoria or Merlin, so I decided to use Morgan-Tamamo-Castoria(support). I was originally considering using Hans as a replacement to Merlin before I remembered that Tamamo existed. The chain I use is Morgan->Castoria->Tamamo. This gives me 43.75% NP gauge instead of 37.5% + having castoria getting the gauge too, though this is at the cost of only getting 3 stacks of solemn defense instead of 4. Merlin's role in the immortal team is primarly healing and to a lesser extent passive NP charge and star gen. Tamamo has a much weaker healing and no star gen. Instead, she gives in massive instant NP charge + the esteemed cooldown reduction. and for the panic button instead of a 1 turn party-wide invul, you get a charge down. which most of the time is probably worse, BUT against invul ignoring bastards is actually useful.

  • @AmenoMagatsu
    @AmenoMagatsu Жыл бұрын

    Do you have recommendations for what CEs if you dont have 2 prisma cosmos?

  • @hadimustafa3378
    @hadimustafa3378 Жыл бұрын

    Does overcharge depend on np level for example i have a unit who is np level 1 but I have 2 stack of overcharge so will the overcharge level be 2 or 3?

  • @mixalisarnaoutis3583
    @mixalisarnaoutis3583 Жыл бұрын

    Question if I may? Without 1 level of Overcharge from a skill, wouldn't the stack of Castorias Avalon Defense be at max of 3 if we just assume triple NP and execution order? Does stacking NPs provide any further bonus? Because at around 21:00 you mention 4 stacks at max without an OC charge skill and 5 with Proto Merlins Skill OC. Did I miss something XD ?

  • @gunnarschlichting9886

    @gunnarschlichting9886

    Жыл бұрын

    IDK lol. Maybe he assumed Morgan as a dps since he uses her as an example a lot?

  • @mixalisarnaoutis3583

    @mixalisarnaoutis3583

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gunnarschlichting9886 Even with Morgan's NP OC effect the max should be at x4 stacks if you put Castoria at the end of the chain in a 3x NP turn. Khad mentions x5 stack max, that's why I am asking ^.^;....

  • @gunnarschlichting9886

    @gunnarschlichting9886

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mixalisarnaoutis3583 That's what I mean. If Morgan as dps is the unspoken assumption Khad makes, Proto Merlin's skill makes it OC 5, but without the skill its OC 4.

  • @mixalisarnaoutis3583

    @mixalisarnaoutis3583

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gunnarschlichting9886 I see, it make sense that way, thanks for clarifying it :) !

  • @KaiserTheDarkWolf
    @KaiserTheDarkWolf Жыл бұрын

    well i miss castoria so i probably unlock the hard mode of sustains comps.

  • @flashmozzg
    @flashmozzg Жыл бұрын

    If only we had something like Morgan but for Arts...

  • @connor8610
    @connor8610 Жыл бұрын

    I used the during hein kyo suzuka and rice boi fight, himiko, castoria and merlin and it was broken

  • @LesEnfants1972
    @LesEnfants1972 Жыл бұрын

    There are 3 alternative to the “3rd unit” in an invul comp: Himiko, Morgan, Reines. Himiko: probably the safest out of all 3. Since she give 2 levels of OC. So you can either go for full 5 stacks on Castoria or dedicate 1T to her to NP and then proceed to unga bunga with buster cards (or refill her NP bar with the Art cards) and settle with 4 stacks for Castoria. Also, she gives out tons of stars. Probably the best star gen in this game. Which helps you to crit easily. Morgan: the only one when you would use the NP offensively, rather than buffing. Which is great for when you need to deal with multiple enemies. Save you the time having to pick them off one by one. Reines: similar to Himiko, where you would mostly rely on buffing the face cards to deal damage. A great thing about her is that she’s a top tier battery that can split her charge on 3 skills, which is extremely flexible. Not to mention the 3T 30%~50% NP gain every time she NP. That will help a lot for refilling the NP gauge with face cards. If you don’t have Merlin, try Miyu if you have her. After the NP buff she’s a great alternative for healing chip damage and NP charge per turn. Also, another fatal enemy of the immortal comp is the instant death. I this case, you could either use Skadi to prevent it or god forbid, Irisviel for the team Guts.

  • @fernandorod6292
    @fernandorod6292 Жыл бұрын

    Would it work if I replace Merlín with Tamamo as the healer for the comp?

  • @willegan1823

    @willegan1823

    Жыл бұрын

    It might be theoretically possible, but it's going to be harder thanks to the way Tamamo's NP works. Tamamo gives block healing instead of healing over time, so it might get wasted. In addition, Tamamo gives block charge, so either you use Tamamo before Castoria and Castoria doesn't get the charge from Tamamo's NP, or you use Tamamo after Castoria and Castoria doesn't get the extra stack of overcharge from going after Tamamo. Edit: There's also the fact that Tamamo doesn't have an invincibility skill like Merlin and LA do.

  • @pedromonteiro1196

    @pedromonteiro1196

    Жыл бұрын

    Himiko -> Castoria -> Tamamo is slower but has worked for me, Tamamo at overcharge 5 giving 50% NP bar every 3/4 turns is craaaaaazy

  • @darkdude1996ify
    @darkdude1996ify Жыл бұрын

    I always find it funny to see people complain about how they scaled the np/turn on Femlin's NP with NP level. The max HP buff from her NP is SO MUCH WORSE than Merlin's heals. At NP1 they're still roughly equal, but an NP2 Merlin already heals for 7.5k. Even if you're not using all of it, it's still going to be better than a measly 3 turn 4k max HP buff a lot of the time. Either they would've had to make the numbers on the max HP buff a lot higher and increase the duration, or they give her a niche that is mildly different from OG. They went with the latter

  • @sithmaster4305
    @sithmaster4305 Жыл бұрын

    Haha Himiko go "zzzz..."

  • @kotykoty7848
    @kotykoty7848 Жыл бұрын

    Jeanne D' arc and doble castoria?

  • @cocacolan1712

    @cocacolan1712

    Жыл бұрын

    It'll take about a thousand years to kill but its definitely very tanky

  • @crisredfield2
    @crisredfield2 Жыл бұрын

    I use a variation of the comp with Castoria/Tamamo/Himiko. I found that to be better against ST bosses, as Himiko's crits some times hit harder than Morgan's NP

  • @DYhalto250
    @DYhalto250 Жыл бұрын

    I just use miyu castoria and himiko.. and i know in the futre miyu gets better.

  • @gerardorivas2811

    @gerardorivas2811

    Жыл бұрын

    Miyu connoisseur 🤝

  • @DYhalto250

    @DYhalto250

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gerardorivas2811 np5 10/10/10.. only level 90 tho.. making sure I have enough for every illya first..

  • @gerardorivas2811

    @gerardorivas2811

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DYhalto250 I see, I have her NP4, but I have Illya NP3 🙌

  • @DYhalto250

    @DYhalto250

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gerardorivas2811 only np2 illya. Hope we get that banner later this year so I can roll for both illya versions.

  • @gerardorivas2811

    @gerardorivas2811

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DYhalto250 yeah, she should be right after Oberon!

  • @iDivinity117
    @iDivinity117 Жыл бұрын

    Well my problem is that Merlin supports don’t exist and he never came home. So the invincible comp will usually be out of my grasp :(

  • @PhoenixBlazer39

    @PhoenixBlazer39

    Жыл бұрын

    With the addition of multiple support comps, Merlin is like the 3rd or 4th most common support Caster after Cassie, Skadi, and Waver. I dunno why you can't seem to find them.

  • @nelisezpasce
    @nelisezpasce Жыл бұрын

    Can I use Tamamo?

  • @Egavans

    @Egavans

    Жыл бұрын

    You can. It's a little jankier since she needs to be put last in the chain, but I've slopped my way through basically every CQ since Himiko's release with (support)Himiko-Castoria-Tama.

  • @SuperHardcoreTroller
    @SuperHardcoreTroller Жыл бұрын

    qin shi huang, castoria, and lady avalon is sleeper op even if he doesnt have an overcharge effect. with that many arts buffs and his 50% np charge + stun and charge drain it seems pretty op.

  • @drunkfarmer5106
    @drunkfarmer5106 Жыл бұрын

    Had Merlin np5, got Morgan np5, will get Castoria np5 soon, and will prob do the same for Himiko later this year.

  • @solitare4602
    @solitare4602 Жыл бұрын

    You talked for 40 minutes and didn't even mention CEs or give us any demonstrations. I'll be honest. I zoned out a bit because of too much lecturing without showing the applications.

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