Berserkers aren’t angry. They are just misunderstood!

@GeorgeMonet

Жыл бұрын

Kiyohime might not kill her enemies in anger, but she absolutely kills her master in anger (when she finds out they are cheating on her).

Herc - you very much SHOULD care about his NP. Not only is it more damage than his buster cards (and generate some stars to boot), not only does it inflict Def down, but it also allows switching to the next enemy after bringing down the current one, or barreling through guts (multiple of them in some cases), something that can make a lot of difference in the hard content that you'd be using him as an anchor for! Also, his buster crits may not be relied on, but they DO happen and they are fantastic when they do! Regarding Godjuna's buster down and how 90++ Wave 3 enemies might resist it... If you're buster farming you're using a plugsuit, so just use the OG Plugsuit and GANDR the high HP bitch!

@dstreetz91

Жыл бұрын

The one issue is that even NP5 Godjuna isn't dealing over a million HP unless you can somehow get Godjuna looping with a black grail or something for 2 waves only since the only way to 3 wave black grail is command seals. 90++ is weird though in that sometimes it's 2 waves so Godjuna would work there quite well with a black grail, but for 3 waves it's tough to do.

@primadansaripudin9269

Жыл бұрын

what do you mean Herc's crits do happen? I swear his 10-20% crit chance is 80% in disguise with how often they hit for me

@KalarKing

Жыл бұрын

​@@dstreetz91 The good thing is that some events have CEs with 50% charge and 200% bonus damage, in fact the Arcade collab has one right now, with it you can NP all 3 waves with zero issues.

@astridparungao4971

Жыл бұрын

Also Oberon will be your support here, and he has increased debuff success rate for the party as a passive, which do help to land the Buster Resist Down for AA more.

@thexenosaiyan

11 ай бұрын

@@dstreetz91 Good news on Black Grail looping Arjuna Alter xD

The first time I actually got Salome's third skill to pop off, I literally cheered. It's only happened twice on my account, but both times resulted in massive damage turns.

@generalkenobi1972

Жыл бұрын

Her third skill is so terrible wich is sad considering how good her second skill is. It needs some kind of rework but Salome as she is now is almost unusable with only two skills

Side note on Arash, although the NP animation got longer the death animation got shorter as he just disappears (like King Hassans NP) unike previously where he dies like normal and have defeated voiceline. So overall its the about the same speed.

Arjuna & Morgan Fans : Attack Each Other. Ibuki & Rikyu Enjoyer : "Feel's Good not to have an Actual Competition eh..."

@farizahmad3036

6 ай бұрын

Ibuki have musashi and rikyuu have xiang yu as their competitor, but as you can see they dominate them so hard, especially rikyuu

Ibuki SWEEP, dominating every list she gets into

@Ottobean

Жыл бұрын

I have them both 120 for a reason

@ghostrider4722

Жыл бұрын

Real mf status

@pika2land139

Жыл бұрын

Well hello there Mr. Bean

@JohnWick-rh1zz

Жыл бұрын

snek power

@xenoemblem7

Жыл бұрын

As expected of a divine spirit, just like how Tiamat is also broken.

Kriemhild: They don't know that I'm secretly a 5-star...

This list is truly factual but damn does it hurt to see penth and summer bryn so low they deserve so much better 😭

4:27:28 Damn the BM is real. Plushie was saying he wanted Xiang Yu to go up and Myst just puts him further down, savage. For the record I also think he should've been higher, Myst tunnel visions too much on that bad NP. When you get his crit turn he is Orion level for that 1 turn only.

@Ottobean

Жыл бұрын

You can also stagger the crit buffs for more damage on multiple turns

@Founder_of_Morgans_Fanclub

Жыл бұрын

​@@Ottobean he also has a lot of sinergy with Summer Skadi

@6ToesHeACreature

Жыл бұрын

Ngl probably worst placement so far holy shit

@justawanderingoldman7699

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. His crits is insane even if you only support him with budget support like Hans and Caesar. And don't forget that Chen Gong exists as a budget Merlin too. After getting Morgan and played around with her, I can say that Xiang Yu is pretty simillar with Morgan. As both have an AoE NP and rely on crits to deal big damages. It just Morgan has more utilities and her crits last longer. While. Xiang Yu is a pure proper Berserker who focuses purely in offense and his kit is built for a one turn unga bunga crits nuke. As you've said, he is close to Super Orion tier of crits for one turn when all his skills on

Spartacus is very good for new players who aren't farming by looping. I used him so much he was my first bond 10.

@user-gp9ch2jg7l

Жыл бұрын

yes, specially with arash turn1or2.

Cu Alter is the first SSR Berserker I was fortunate to get. He has gotten me through many battles and his skills may not be the best for damage, but in my opinion survival is just as important for a Berserker as power ups. Glad he got the EX placement he deserved.

Plushie is right, Herc needs a buff 😈 but for real I think it's great that a Servants bond CE is actually relevant and Herc has won me challenge quests since I started this game, I don't think I did a single challenge quest without Herc standing in the back.

Small difference, Archer Sei is anti-Neutral while Summer Sei is anti-Lawful

For those wondering Greek Male is 14 different servants, but and a small handful of enemies. They are 1. Jason 2. Chiron 3 & 4. Both Orions (yeah both of them) 5. Paris 6. Hektor 7 & 8. Both Alexander and Iskandar 9. Achilles 10. Odysseus 11. Nemo 12. Asclepius 13. Heracles 14. Asterios Looking at it, I'm shocked this doesn't extend to Caenis or Dioscuri

@rhymenoceros3303

Жыл бұрын

Penth: I HATE ALL GREEK MALES! *Points at Canis and Dioscuri* Except you two, you're cool.

@Cris711B

Жыл бұрын

I guess because Caenis' situation is kind of ambiguous and Dioscuri uses primarily Pollux's Saint Graph.

@xolotltolox7626

Жыл бұрын

@@Cris711B ok, but then why artemis

@Cris711B

Жыл бұрын

@@xolotltolox7626 Likely because she's using Orion's Graph and abilities to manifest instead of her own.

@glassofgas8631

Жыл бұрын

​@@Cris711B nah. It's because they have too many traits already

The thing about herc is that you can get him at the start and then you leave him on your team, there's never a reason to tske him out so the bond ce is literally for free. He also isnt chained to his bond ce, both necromancy and asclepias/irisveil provide guts to him. But for any account going fast, Lostbelts will kick you curb side and say come back later by lb3, and for them a herc anchor goes hard af

@farizahmad3036

6 ай бұрын

He is chained to his bond ce, thats what make him stand out compare to the others. If you gonna use necro or asc/iri's NP in the ebd then it wouldnt be any different with the others.

I feel like If Nurse had her second skill buffed to be a self battery and a targeted humanoid attack and defense, that could make her really solid.

@ApexGale

Жыл бұрын

honestly, her issue is that she is a support utility servant in a class that is meant primarily for damage. what they could do is make it so for 3 turns she does not have berserker weakness and it would instantly propel her higher, since she wouldn't die in 2-3 hits

Regarding herc, a good anchor is great for having in any team. For people who aren’t whales, we get to the 6th in line more often than one would think. Additionally, the damage CEs are generally gonna go on the main damage dealer.

Lord have mercy Arjuna A got a rate up today on NA. Rejoice my brothers. LB6 difficulty is gonna go down a few levels.

@GeorgeMonet

Жыл бұрын

Bait banner. Koyanskaya, Oberon are much better since they enable buster looping and greatly increase buster NP damage.

@Unlimited-D-Works

Жыл бұрын

@@GeorgeMonet yah and for that I need a buster looper jackass. Arjuna alter.

With traces of Christmas Xiang Yu is actually able to 3 turn loop if it’s a 3-3-3 wave with triple Skadi, if they’re all caster mobs lmao

Arjuna supremacy, and now im gonna abuse LB 6 on NA after it released

@muratticugaratti1571

Жыл бұрын

talk to them bro

Grailed Spartacus is great with Reines. Suddenly everything in his kit matters.

If Tezcatlipoca is EX+, Ibuki should be too. In fact, those two are like the best Arts AoE units rn.

Regarding Herc placement, I believe while he is the best anchor in the game, Plushie's point of his CE being locked to Castle of Snow is kinda relevant. I spent 4 years with no luck of getting Herc from anywhere and by the point I got him, my account was already so built I can clear contents rather easily without needing an anchor like Herc. With Herc, my impression of him is that if you get him early, he is very great to invest into. But if you didn't get him, it's not the end of the world. Plus, I believe most people know better about the situation with bond grinding from level 5 to 10. And I am on the more casual player than other grinders Regarding Plushie's point of enemies doing evade/invul and no damage, that is where command codes come into play. While invul would still be an issue (because only 1 CC with ignore invul), with evasion we have 3 CCs that can deal with it (Orion bear CC, Gae Bolg CC and the ignore invul CC) and you can just slot it in to make your Buster card functional against evasion

@h2ophreak

Жыл бұрын

I actually think you can make a similar argument for a lot of zerks. I started just before when Summer jalter came out, she was god tier to my noob ass and carried me through so much story. Now she collects dust. Outside of mixed farming and the top tier 5*s, you're just better off going with true class advantage most of the time.

@jeksewnoleeray1020

Жыл бұрын

I had the same situation, I got herc late in my account and since getting him to bond 10 I haven't needed him a single time.

@justawanderingoldman7699

Жыл бұрын

Unless you have like a lot of OP DPS and support Servants, you will have some cases when a max bond Herc can help. Like for me, while I rarely touched my Lv90 NP5 + 2 append skills unlocked Herc, there is always this tricky situation where I just slapped a Herc with his bond CE, and he finished the stage. Especially on the annoying grail front mode. Bringing Herc with his bond CE is basically a cheat code lol. Note, I'm a veteran players who've already played from year 1 of FGO NA. So I already have a pretty decent Servants in my pocket (while not that meta). But I still use Herc for some hard/challenge quest.

@potato2097

Жыл бұрын

It just feels like plushie has this feels/vibe like "herc is so overated so im going to hate/undervalued him" dude. Im a 4year fgo player i got him as my first 4star since i started my hell in fgo and i still use him. Not every content but when i do. I win 100%. There are multiple times when i get shocked when i thought it was over but nah. Herc just look at me and gives me a thumbs up while smiling like almight(from hero academia) and wins the battle. Yes, i agree that if your rosters of servant are well built before you got him you "might" not need him. (Well every content is clearable with any servant)

@rances4418

Жыл бұрын

I think it’s important to understand that even without his bond he is quite strong. Not op but for a four star his potential insane.

It's funny that this dropped at the same day as the surprise Arjuna Alter banner on NA. I just got him on my mini account (still don't have him on my main sadly) and he's an absolute monster even at level 50.

3:56:08 Across the board, Galatea has slightly better refund than Vlad. The only times he wins out on sheer refund is when his damage nets a bit more overkill. I also feel like it is worth pointing out that every card Galatea has is better for NP gain than Vlad's. His arts cards are the only thing ever worth using in his deck, and they are already bad. Buster cards with the arts starting bonus and the third skill are guaranteed 11.8% charge each, without any NP gain buffs. If they crit, it's at least 13.6%. Vlad's third place arts card with the arts starting bonus gets 9.75% with his S3 and no crit. His quick card nets about 4% in the same conditions, and his busters get 0.65%. That's part of why Vlad is so reliant on supports. You have to dump all sorts of battery on him in case you get a brave chain without an arts card. Galatea can loop with most of her possible brave chains with just Paracelsus and crits. She's a lot friendlier for people who don't have access to a lot of strong supports. There's a lot of budget arts supports, but very few offer both refund support and battery. One of them is Mary Anning, and she hates men, so Vlad can't even work with her. It helps her even more because there are plenty of buster supports down low, too, and you can make use of her buster deck for damage when her NP isn't up. Even when you bring in the top dogs for supporting them, she wins out in the max damage department because she has better Oberon synergy than Vlad does. Ultimately, they are both not that useful if you have a lot of servants because counterclassing will always be better, unless you invest grails and the like. Even then, I have to force myself to find a use for my Pants-wearer. I've barely used Kriemhild since I got her. Berserker is just kind of a shit class when it isn't AOE. If you aren't up against multiple classes, why not just counterclass? All in all, appreciative that she didn't rank below Vlad like she did last year. Gladge source: I wrote a review for Galatea that totaled to almost 3k words in length (or a 20 minute video)

@TheRedScizor

Жыл бұрын

Galatea is so underrated, I don't get why everyone writes her off for Vlad. She's better in like 90% of areas compared to him.

@caligulasloveboat5232

Жыл бұрын

Sing the song of my people, bro. I scouted her out 8 months ahead of time, got her to NP3 and rolled to get limit broken Flower Sunshine CE. She has just obliterated everything I put in front of her without getting touched. Now I even have NP4 Miss Crane to boost her damage even more, give another turn of invincibility and feed stars. Just a complete monster.

@VioletDeathRei

8 ай бұрын

Pulled for Galatea, got spooked by Vlad.... not sure how to feel lol.

I started this game on NA right after the 2nd anniversary I got Hercules in the 6ml download campaign with the free SR ticket never got him from the Gatcha do note that I'm 100% F2P in 4 years of playing this game i can honestly say with no doubt there's no other servant carried me like Hercules did (beside Arjuna Alter) first of all lets take one thing out of the way he's the absolute best Servant in Grail fronts and it's not even close Second: he's an amazing Solo servant not the best but one that does a pretty good job at most of times (just recently on NA he melted that Limbo boss fight in LB 5.5) and one thing you forgot to metion Myst is that beside he's tools of survival you can buy even more turns from Taunts like George and Chen and ever more with mystic codes so we're talking here about 11 to 12 turn of that fat buster chains destroying whatever ever is facing you finally as an anchor he's the absolute best needless to say I take him everywhere is the story to this date and he didn't disappoint not a single time. So from an F2P perspective he's deserving of that EX spot and even more so (EX+ like last year) Arjuna Alter in my opinion at NP 1 he's best universal unit that can carry you period Great kit / great Face card damage / a crit monster / great looper and farmer / great for CQs / can do fast solos and good for grail fronts as well and has the best damaging mode in the entire game which you can activate pretty easily in many many various ways outside his NP he does so so much for such a simple kit even without the buster supports. Again this is just my take after playing this game for 4 years and going through a lot of content in both servers.

@potato2097

Жыл бұрын

Yo, we the same i played fgo for 4years too. I got herc from the beginner banner. I was clueless at first if he was good but then i saw his bond and decided to raise it. Never leave my party to raise my herc bond. Then. I. Got. It. Oh boy the time i grind for his bond didn't disappoint!!! I grailed my herc since he deserved it. He will always has a special place for my party. ❤

vlad below cu boi is on that copium

Lmao I just got Godjuna NP2 today. It is the day of the berserkers

@user-xt6xu5fm5i

Жыл бұрын

Same here brother luck is on our side, i got him np 2 with 9 ticket, and now im going after Morgan and Castoria

Just got arjuna alter

i got godjuna today, i'm very happy :)

I only started playing like 3 months ago and my NP1 Herc was my first 4 star and my strongest character to this day (I have 0 SSRs). He carried me through most of the content in the game. I have him at bond 10 (got to it a few weeks ago) and he can't solo everything but he's still pretty insane and I only have 110 coins so I don't even have the extra attack append. I think that leveling up his bond is a little harder if don't play like the whole story with him but it's certainly still worth it.

They really should add the “Shuten Douji” trait to Ibuki Douji. Gives more uses to Ibaraki whilst also buf- Now that I think about it, that might not be such a great idea

@darkdude1996ify

Жыл бұрын

Buffing Ibuki OMEGALUL

One problem with herc is that you have to get him early, it took me 3 years to get a herc and by the time i got him, i would have to bond 10 him to actually use him.

@uyeah1234

Жыл бұрын

Not really. Even without his Bond CE he is one of the best units in the entire game. A lot of people act like his bond ce makes him go from useless to amazing. It's not that big of a jump. His skill set is still amazing, his damage is still amazing, his sustain is still amazing. Even without his Bond CE herc can still solo 60% of the main story content, people have done it before it's been proven. If you cannot get his bond ce right away then just build a better team to make Herc go from having to last stand say 5 turns, to 3 turns. They're so many ways to use Herc and make him better without tunnel visioning on his bond CE. With his bond ce he is A+ without his bond ce he is still A+. You just have to be smart and use him in a different way.

Asterios was central in my fight against Goetia, when I still had only Ozy at lvl.60 and the rest were about 40-ish. 38 turns of pain, glory and sweat. Love the boy, EX+ in my heart

I kind of want to talk about Summer Nobu for a bit, but compared to the other ST Berserkers of the same rarity, she has the strongest synergy with Chen Gong for Budget teams. Star gather for crits, Buster NP, triple Buster deck, and a one turn Evade skill which Chen Gong can use his taunt to redirect attacks to her for her to gain NP without taking damage. And there is also her S2 which is basically a Mini Garden of Avalon, so her NP gain is kinda nutty and fill it up pretty easily. That NP upgrade of hers which combined with the anti Divine mod also enables her to solo some Divine bosses despite being a Zerk which is pretty nuts. I'd say even without her special mod, she is not super far behind Beowulf and is way much better than Ibaraki. I feel Summer Jalter could be bumped up a rank though because she is free NP5 welfare so her damage is strong, and she has really good survivability, I would not consider Ibaraki to be better than her. Honestly I feel Ibaraki's rank is too high on the list when comparing to the other ST Berserkers of that rarity.

Omg i think my luck is insane that i got Heracles on tutorial , i think hes trash but after seeing this tierlist im speechless

Most (or probably every enemy) enemies buff themselves in some way outside of unremovable buffs as well. so paris most of the time going to hit hard anyway, you doesn't need kiyohime for that. Tell me which enemy doesn't buff himself

i just rolled arjuna too :)

Nightingale makes me so sad especially since I like her. I’d think a cool but if a party wide 25% attack and defense for the party that stacks with her humanoid attack and defense. As for Raikou, I pray they make her competitive. I’d want a second skill buff, 3 turn buster up, 3 hit evade for 3 turns, and an added 3 turn arts up. I say that instead of a battery because I usually try to think of buffs outside of batteries. And she does have two arts cards.

I've always been of the opinion that Zerkerlot should get a Rank Up to upgrade his protection of the spirits to get an Evade. It's called Protection of the Spirit and it doesn't protect him from anything

I wonder how much Morgan's evaluation changes given the NP1 assumption. Thanks for the new tier list!

@MystFGO

Жыл бұрын

I have an NP1 Morgan in JP and I can say from experience that her damage just isn't enough a lot of the times in the highest farming, even with the most premium supports backing her.

@ChaoticVice777

Жыл бұрын

@@MystFGO My personal experience comes from using a Level 100 NP3 Morgan that still has damage issues at 90+ if she doesn't Plug Oberon or hit her niche. It was definitely a wakeup call on her farming relevancy. Her strength (and weakness) comes from her versatility, not damage output.

@grigori9061

Жыл бұрын

@@ChaoticVice777 basically pair her with a castoria and Merlin for challenge quests, and use Arjuna alter for farming

@ChaoticVice777

Жыл бұрын

@@grigori9061 That would be a disservice to the power (and weakness) of her versatility if she were locked to immortal comp CQs.

Planning on Np5 godjuna... but next year

Despite Kintoki being so one dimensional, I feel like they could give him skill buffs turning him into be such a fun and unique servant. Like imagine if his third skill was a 1 turn of “adrenaline” that for 1 turn gave him a 10k max HP buff and after the following turn 5k HP is taken away. So it would be like a massive burst heal. Instead of the usual survival effects of defense or invul, just temporarily grant Kintoki King Protea HP values. Also his first skill could be buffed to have a 5 turn extra card buff along with making his normal %50 attack for 4 attack 3 turns or something. Or give him a unique on activate buff if he deals damage to a stunned target, rewarding him for getting his stun effect off So many small changes could make him feel so much better.

Yo myst great video I just wanted to say when you do the extra class tier list remember to consider Yang guifei bond ce too since that ce is great to ❤

Myst forgot to mention Nyalters perfect synergy with Douman (cuz chaotic evil with curse on top)

love Sen no Rikyu the scary GF 1 of my favorite servant designs but i had no idea shes ex tier damn wish me luck in pulling her next year!

its good to see that my man beo is still in A tier range, he was my first servant to get lvl 100 and 10/10/10 skills, still waiting for the last copy to np5

I was going to use the anniversary ssr ticket to get Quetzalcoatl but I got her at Valentine’s Day and her 2nd copy during the strengthening campaign so I’m going to use the ticket for Cu Alter. Funny enough yesterday I actually pulled ecchan. Now the only saber/saberface alter I’m missing is okita alter

Darius III is actually a really good 3-star, imo. His damage and survivability are leagues better than any other low-star AOE berserker, and he has solid use cases versus other 4-star Berserkers. If your account has a top-tier AOE zerker he won't see much use, but if you don't he's probably worth leveling. And I don't even like him very much.

Looking forward to the Beast tier list!

I got Herc after a year and half of playing and I finished Olympus already, I barely have him at bond 5 and np1 so I haven't been able to use him like other people I'll try to get some bond when lb6 comes out though. I actually got Taira np3 before my first herc so Taira is a much better soloer for me.

Ibuki's skills can be 5 turns becuz of the cd reduction, so a 50 battery, atk np gen and card buffs on a 5T CD, its CRACKED

you know the tier list drastically changed when the middle finger tier list no longer exists:)

Woah I'm early! Really hyped because I still think berzerkers are the strongest class in the game.

@nine_fox_foundation

Жыл бұрын

True

@aguythatplayscardgames1181

Жыл бұрын

Now that beast is a thing, are you still sure?

@naihannoor2245

Жыл бұрын

​@@aguythatplayscardgames1181 still berserker stronger than beast cause they resist to extra class servants

I think Caligula NP has a use case in some fight with boss with high hits and nasty skills that with just Asterios wouldn't cut it like Demeter. His NP basically makes Demeter never do her skill rotations which is really strong considering how hard Demeter can be. I think there's a video on Asterios Caligula combo against Demeter by a JP Creator and it was also a Bronze only run on that Demeter fight.

DUDE i managed to get Arjuna alter on the 1st multi with a gold summon animation when the banner first came out after update. what luck now i can still save a lot of Saint Quartz and tickets for Morgan!!!

i literally just came back to this game after a couple months and first try pulled arjuna so here i am o7

As a berserker simp im so happy to see all my zerkers Herc, Kriem, Morgan sama, Rikyu and Ibuki in EX and above

One thing I don't like about Galatea's partywide cleanse per turn. It only cleanses after your turn, which means enemies can apply debuffs on you, hampering your damage or even apply disables on your next turn. It should've been before the start of the player's turn.

In this day of age, not having a battery for an AoE SSR can be a problem. It really is notable when Raikou, from top-tier Berserker, to now being compared to Xiang Yu in this meta. Iskandar, Cleopatra, and Raikou are the only Buster AoE SSRs that don't have a direct battery.

3:07:24 Devs are blind and def if they didn't notice just how bad 5 star Nightingale is right now, but they probably know the issue, yet they prefer to be total ass.....

Honestly, I wish Beowulf increased Crit up instead of reducing the enemy crit to keep building on the crit berserker gimmick, or at least a buster up just for buff variety sake.

My AA is NP3, so I know his damage is probably going to be pretty cracked compared to whatever NP level of Morgan I can potentially get, however if you are fighting debuff immune enemies that shit goes right into the trash. It is also worth mentioning without his NP you have to rely on command codes to apply debuffs for his S1. I am willing to throw my wallet into a lake for my Queen. EDIT: Also I used Zerksashi for Tsuna boss fight, he never got to use his NP once and that was the only time that OC was ever useful. As a DPS she needs to have at least one Arts card to assure the loop with potentially less targets than farming, but they really need to give her S2 the same buff that her Saber form got so it isn't potentially wasted when she has no arts cards available turn 1. She needs something to help put her apart from S Ibuki who while still squishy is still somehow less squishy than Zerksashi.

Personal belief on Herc is that he is great for any account up to true whale types. Even if you don't consistently use him its always great to have a random anchor unit just in case on a story or event boss. I find that he slots in very well to my Castoria teams' sixth slot when I'm going in blind to a boss.

@MystFGO

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, a bond CE Herc can fit into literally any team at the back and always be that solid anchor.

Penth has the potential to be busted if she gets at least one solid buff or an NP upgrade.

Can’t wait for next year GSSR Zerks banners.

With Lil Cu in the game, will we finally get Cu Alter a buff? My first 5 star needs more crack.

49:46 Sad but true. Only times I ever used my beloved Darius is in grail fronts for his gorilla deck + guts combo and the rare events where he has DMG bonus (Nightingale Christmas)

Plushie's take on herc is as realistic as it can ever be. Couldn't agree more. Herc is very good. For a zerk, probably one if not the best when in terms of survival. But at the same time zerk given that he's a boss killer, to not have any access on sure hit, or invul pierce is a big minus. Might have to waste one guts for turn or more just to wait for enemy's invul or evade to come off. And the fact that if you equip him with ces with utilities needed for challenge quest means that he won't have access to his meaningful 3-time guts. Now regarding with anchoring. There are times when even if you put him in your 6th slot, due to some bad rngs and unexpected happenings herc could enter the battlefield prematurely even when there are still other teammates in the battlefield. What will happen is that when herc is focused and was killed resulting him triggering one of his guts, enemies attack won't stop and would sometimes redirect to other teammates and back to you. For example enemies have atleast maximum of 3 actions per turn, 1st one hits herc and he triggers guts, since he died the 2nd action would target other teammates, 3rd one would either target him or his teammates and because of that herc would sometimes lost 2 guts while his teammates are still in the battlefields leaving him less survivability when anchoring.

@sircinabun5478

Жыл бұрын

You can prolong his existence by 7ish turns if you pair Heracles with the Atlas Academy Uniform. Best case scenario you end the previous turn with no other servant on the field and Heracles comes out. Chances are enemies will buff and not use all 3 actions as attacks to kill him (1) Using the mystic code will save him from another turn. (2) You can use his evade and guts skill before mystic invincibility which will both be lowered by 2 turns each from the mystic code. 3 turns worth of cooldown if used before the mystic code invincibility. There is then 4 guts to go through and by the time they all proc you would have finished the cooldowns for Heracles' evade and guts. Assuming the best start and his skills are maxed out that's 7 turns of lasting power. 8 turns total if they don't kill him with their basic attacks turn due to rng. You are almost guaranteed 1-2 NPs throughout his anchor for some more burst damage or target switching mid-turn. Worst case scenario you get unlucky clearing your previous turn's teammates or you backline other tanks for some reason and they stay alive wasting solo turns of extra buster chains. Also dot damage from a strong enough burn/poison/etc. You can redo the mission to spawn Heracles in a better position or add command codes to remove those debuffs. I was watching Heracles' part as I was typing this and I don't think Myst brought up the mc Atlas uniform but chat did and I don't think Plushi made strong arguments for lowering Heracles. Plushie was arguing a lower position for using Heracles as a fronliner and also when used without his bond CE which isn't his most optimal use so obviously it would be lower if used unoptimally, Honey lake was also used for argument and that CE gives a lot of damage to burn targets and pierce invulnerability but as an anchor he gets more value spaming buster brave chains instead of having 2-3 turns of 50% more damage. Even in cases where bosses spam invincibility they don't have it up 24/7 and invincibility of 1-3 uses per turn will get ran through. As a bond CE people will eventually get castle of snow if you have the character while honey lake is an event ce and is miss-able so idk why he argued about how accessible it is. Matter of fact I don't even have Honey Lake since I don't always get the time to finish or 100% events to MLB the CE/Wellfare. I'm not going to be able to finish the Idol event that's currently going on and I missed the latest Valentine event entirely. I don't know if you know this but you can close out the game before your next turn starts to see who the enemies attack or what they do. You can basically undo the turn and can potentially prevent moments like the one you described where Heracles lost 2 guts in 1 turn. If you don't like doing that redoing the mission is another option for better Anchoring if rng isn't in your favor. I can see Plushie's pov and his bias may come from preferring damage or other team compositions but from my own experience I usually lazily put Heracles in the backline and he can carry me through some of the game's hardest content. Even if Heracles can't finish the mission he still outputs an insane amount of damage so I can usually finish the CQ after using my command seals to revive everyone. Heracles isn't going to solo content anymore but he will still put in more work than a vast majority of the roster alone and as a Berserker he is usable against most classes making him a wonderful general anchor, some people can even solo a certain foreigner boss with him given good rng and enough investment.

@dstreetz91

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The biggest issue I've had lately with a bond 10 Herc on JP was DoT effects wasting his guts like curse damage. It can reduce the number of turns for Herc to BBB or mighty chain by quite a bit.

@lookingforlove839

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​@@dstreetz91 good thing we have a very cheap cc that can remove dots

@FieryMeltman

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​@@dstreetz91 Use command codes. Easy fix.

I played for 2 years, and getting herc bond ce is not hard at all when you're new. He's great when I was new, and still great even my rooster is now full of servants. Nothing's changed. He also doesnt need honey lake, just unlock his first skill, max it and you're good to go.

The duo of Raikou and Ibaraki carried me all the way to the end of the first act. Penth joined and the trio of buster berserkers carried me through act 1.5. Seeing them on the same tier is both weird and fitting. The weird thing is I got Berserker Cu on his first banner but he always had bad luck when I used him. As much survival as he had, it was like he had a built in taunt and never really got to go nuts beyond a single NP. I ended up dropping him for Penth. Of course, I eventually got spooked by Herc around Lostbelt 3. The guy was extremely late to the party and I'm not even sure if I'm gonna go for Bond 10 on him with Morgan coming up and a recent rage inducing Vlad spook on the Galatea banner.

@muratticugaratti1571

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unironically got spooked by the superior arts berserker lmao

@shinzero0271

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@@muratticugaratti1571 "Sorry Vlad, you may be better overall, but she's got mecha pants and didn't also have a 4 star Lancer variant who spooks like crazy"

Ty bro

Can't really complain about the placements. I can understand why everyone is where they are. Myst out here with the well thought out opinions

Seeing Galatea is upper rank made my day💕

Jalter may not be gamebreaking good anymore (especially these days), but she carried me through the whole Part 1 of the game, all the way to Goetia, and she was also my go-to boss killer for many Lostbelt fights, so I will keep her as my main DPS until the game's end of life. Also, I will make sure she doesn't get killed during a certain raid boss in LB7.

@Marika_ER

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I love Jalter. Got her np5 and she's still my hardest hitter. If an enemy is a berserker or ruler, she DELETES them. I even got her to do 1.4 million against king protea and that's without class advantage

I disagree on Eric, there's definitely something they can do, and it's buff his Guts with the following buff: for 3 turns, for each enemy defeated, charges own NP gauge by 10 to 20% If the only thing he is capable of doing is farming, let's just make him a very good farmer. If it's too strong, then maybe make it a 1 turn effect (or lower its effect to 10% flat); that would still make a difference for him. Alternatively they can put that on his NP and call it a day lol Same VA as Li Shuwen btw

@MystFGO

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You did not have to ruin Li for me 💀

@Conkel

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Li shuwen in his savagery days for sure

@HitsujiMamoru

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Nothing is ruined! It's still the old VA for Yagami Iori in King of Fighters. A terrific voice actor, I love him anywhere! He is Hector as well.

I sniped Arjuna alter when rolling for HotWheels but he knew he was on borrowed time. His watch has ended now that my 120 np5 Morgan has come home

@Marika_ER

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Np5?! I used like 700 quartz and got 1 😂

Very different outlook on the lower rarity servants compared to Green’s tierlist for example.

it might sound dumb (and it is) but since my first np5 was ibaraki i made use of kiyohime 2nd skill a lot. to the point she somehow reached bond 10

For those climbing the mountain, you'll need at least 6.5 inches to satisfy Ibuki

So for quick servant Should i go for Sen no Rikyu or Caren? Gonna save my sq for one of them but idk who to choose and who's better

idk why but for the longest time ive always thought darius has a quick np

Summer Musashi needs a skill and NP buff like Saber Musashi.

Me waiting in the extra class tier list to see if Maou Nobu finally gets that higher placement for 90++ farming. Like legit though, i only ever use Maou Nobu for 90++ because the wonky enemy numbers are perfect for her. She only needs to fire her np 1 or 2 times while the other 1/2 times she will just buster crit the enemies to death. Literally do double Koya with Summer Rulertoria or Summer BB plugsuit. Like it REALLY needs to be brought up when a single servant can take care of 90++ mob through face cards + np (granted your 3rd plugsuit servant is kinda not conventional). Heck, there are times were my starting line up is Maou Nobu, Nobukatsu, support Vitch. Backline; My Vitch and either Summer BB or Rulertoria. With Plugsuit Mystic Code

@krismarshall3803

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And yes, this is all 3 turns. I'd put her at A+ because you do need think about set up depending on the situation along with np2 basically being required if you're firing off the NP wave 1 or 2. But besides that, she has so far been my most reliable high-difficulty 3T farmer.

@krismarshall3803

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I high-key feel like I would need to send screenshots just to prove this lol

I feel what Plushie was trying to say about Herc is that he's inflexible. Castle of Snow is what makes or breaks him. Granted, it makes him the best anchor in the game and I think that's not at all a controversial thing to say. But Plushie makes a good point that there will be certain gimmicky challenges that require a specific Craft Essence to work and in those challenges, you won't be able to bring Herc. But as a counter-argument: I think these situations are so hyper-specific, that if you need to reference them in order to argue against Herc being EX...it's a but unfair. There will be hyper-specific situations where any servant is crap. The only real problem with Herc is that he's not immediately at his best, since you need to take him to Bond 10 to unlock his true potential.

It's morgin time

Is it me or did Plushie ask for Xiang Yu adjusted up then Myst put him further down? XD

Fun fact, Hijikata's NP deals more damage on Overcharge than Black Grail. So it's better to support him with Overcharge, he'll be insane.

That Junao is better than Morgan for farming is uncontested but when you take in consideration the flexibility given by Morgan in challenge quests it's a completely different story. Sure when farming Junao gets higher numbers but 95% of the farming nodes are easily clearable by both of them anyway so that damage is usually overkill. In challenge quests all Junao has for himself is big dps and a guts while Morgan brings a LOT of utility: crit stars, damage down, crit chance down, defense down, guts, targeted np gauge and party wide np gain, overcharge for unkillable teams, passive crit resistance... Needless to say both are incredibly good but while for most farming nodes they are interchangeable, for challenge quests i would usually prefer Morgan over Junao.

@Jackaboo985

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Id say Junao is actually completely power crept on JP now. His farming is worse than summer ibuki for 90+ nodes, and Morgan and the others do 90++ better. The only way he can appear in 90++ is if he is np 5 lv 120 2k fou. And in CQs Morgan is just straight up better.

@emiyashirou9001

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​@@Jackaboo985 How much copium did you take before writing that

@Jackaboo985

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@@emiyashirou9001 none. Sure Arjuna alter can do nearly all 90+ nodes with his np and big crits, but melusine, arcuied, summer ibuki, and now Tiamat can do the same but with no CE requirement. And also, summer ibuki doesn’t even need a plug suit. For 90++, rebuff resistance becomes much more of an issue. Every 90++ node has a servant last wave, and only 2 out of 14 don’t have magic resist. And arjuna’s damage falls off a cliff without the debuff landing. He can do 5CE farming during the guda guda event, but anywhere else, he would need to be pretty much maxed out, and even then he will need the debuff RNG and command card RNG to min turn. So yes, he is “power crept”. There is no best case use case for him. And of course that doesn’t mean much in a single player game. He still sees a lot of use in 90/90+ farming, but that doesn’t change the fact that he is no longer at the forefront of the “meta” on JP

@shyamakpal

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@@Jackaboo985 As much as i love him, Melusine and Tiamat really make his lack of black grail painful. For some 90++ with the 2 turns instead of 3 he can run black grail and clear it though so he still has a use but its pretty rare. The debuff resistance problem in farming can be solved by using old plugsuit and activating the stun on the high health enemy turn 3 due to it having a 500% chance.

@muratticugaratti1571

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@@Jackaboo985 Except for the fact that servants that you mentioned all have weaknesses(compare Tiamat with no BG/or with BG against Knight vs Arjuna or Melu against Saber vs Arjuna while Arjuna basically has none other than debuff failing) and Arc has meme damage at np1(you cant expect people to have her high np with 1 banner)

One thing about Galatea v Vlad is that they are ST Arts aka boss killers so you won’t be farming and thus minturn/time doesn’t matter and the utility will matter more. Also they’re essentially equal in terms of looping and neither of them have a problem with it especially when the enemy has break bars which is what you’ll mostly be fighting. If you’ve got a Vlad she is redundant but if not she is the better pick. Not massively but enough to where I’d say she is S- while is Vlad is A+

A case for Atalanta to be higher would be that np seal is crucial on bosses that gain charge after break bar. another point could be that she benefits from quick and buster supports. I have used her with merlin since her buster crits are no joke. In some raids i used her with a super scope to buff the quick and oc on my other dps if they were just short of killing it. Overall i would rank her A tier.

28:15 Isn't this the equivalent of saying "Caligula with prep time" lol?

I feel like Eric is a bit shit on here because although he doesn't have a charge skill, the good thing is that you don't need to invest in him a whole lot on his skill investment. His np also gives a 30% atk buff on use and his first skill debuff is just an extra.

Why not put herc on "EX (Conditional)" ?

I started fgo 100days ago and just rolled arjuna alter, do I roll for the Morgan banner?

Lily Aquina the Salome user. Amd she did it great, even tho it's not my style of play

Who else is here watching the whole damn thing again 😤🫡

I quite like tamamo cat for farming tbh even if its hard to 3 turn with her since i started using the gong lately for wave 1 and even wave 2 if possible, it's really nice for stacking more buffs on your wave 3 clearer even if the run is a bit longer and hearing tamamo say good morning is always nice.

"They should have given him a buff with the release of hayan kyo" That was when he got his NP buff finally. DW/Lasenge too scared to touch this man. I do really wish Kintoki got some more buffs though

Nightingale is a good support If you use a taunt ce or a 3 hits evade ce