I'm so glad Stephen Fry is on the side of rationality, skepticism and enlightenment. We couldn't ask for a more eloquent, witty and whip-smart cheerleader for common sense. Bravo!

@GuitarGuy057

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And he looks dashing with pompoms.

@EducationProfessional-pc6ep

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Why do I feel like we are still losing

@jeffcoulter7181

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@@EducationProfessional-pc6ep because there is no cure for the many forms of mental illness that is the human condition.

I find Stephen to be absolutely charming; when he speaks he is articulate, eloquent and his logic would leave even the 'most' argumentative person struggling to form an argument. An absolute gentleman.

This is Stephen Fry at a nearly 10/10 spiciness level - brutal, intelligent, argumentative wit. Lovely!

Thank you Mr Fry, I've found out most of this myself, but the way you bring it to a greater audience is so on point. So: thank you!

I could listen to Stephen Fry on whatever topic for a whole day.

Stephen Fry would be my number one dinner guest. This speech is AMAZING

@arriuscalpurniuspiso

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He is eloquent and poignant.

It's fitting that he admires Oscar Wilde, the Lord of Language himself so adamantly. Through his admiration for the English language and a peculiar and exceptional understanding of it, Stephen Fry seems to become, inspire, and convince us all of words; essentially the quality of being an intrinsic "Lord of Language."

I feel this way about all organized religions not just Catholicism.

I came for Christopher Hitchens, I stayed for Stephen Fry.

Stephen Fry is a tremendous gentleman and scholar

This debate is so awesome. And the end vote gives hope to all mankind.

I was here 12 years ago, then I came by again, later again and then again some time ago. Every now and then I need something very sincere and valuable. This to me is one of the best speches ever spoken against religion.

this is worth 20 minutes of anyone's time, and I say this as a Christian.

Absolutely brilliant speech, don't miss to next ones.

Utterly brilliant.

That was amazing!

Saying it as it is since 1957. Good Job Mr Fry.

I'm completely entranced by his way of speaking, but I just can't help thinking: "what a kick-ass suit."

I have seen few men with such a mastery, and indeed, love of the English language as Mr. Fry.

@riaadhoosain

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Absolutely brilliant

What an engaging and intelligent man.

Such an eloquent and amazing speaker, for all his personal trials of which he has suffered many he remains such a grounded man, in humour and respect to others. He is proud of who he is and I am proud of him for it, I rue the day his voice is finally lost to us.

@annemarieknevitt1114

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The quality of Stephen’s admirers is testament to him as well. The eloquence of the comments is straggering. I too could listen to Stephen Fry all day but I also get a particular joy from reading the positive comments about him. He is admired by so much intelligence too.

A very clever man. Love listening to him

I’m amazed. Why though? Everything that Stephen says about the Catholic Church is true, insightful, well researched and on point.

Bravo Stephen!!!!

Fry and Hitch is the intellectual dream team.

Big fan. beautifully eloquent.

What an amazing speaker, actor, and human.

@arriuscalpurniuspiso

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He is excellent. Confronting sorcerers.

wow. what a brilliant speaker. i wish i was like him x

I think I'm in love with this man, and I'm straight!

Stephen Fry is a pleasure for my ears.

I only just recently found out about Stephen Fry. His style of speech and vocabulary is wonderful to listen to, his opinion is highly educated and sound, and his character to stand up and speak his mind freely about something as infuriatingly poisonous as religion is exciting and admirable. This man is excellent. Watch him tear apart the catholic church with such verbal expertise, I love it!

Not a word misspoken or a sentiment disingenuous. I would do almost anything for such articulation and intelligence.

@huwpickrell1209

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Me too

And, of course he begins with an Oscar Wilde quote. Hahaha! I adore Stephen Fry.

If there was ever a ass kicking from words that was it. That was amazing.

Stephen Fry has an awful lot to teach the world

Yes you hit the nail on the head, Well educated...

One of the best speeches ive ever heard! Any christian, or religious person of any faith, with an ounce of inteligance should listen to this and WAKE UP!! well done Stephen!

Brilliant.

did you listen to nothing mr fry just said about him. Stephen fry is the most enlightened, and over all well endowed man I have ever come across.

This is one of those cases where the saying "Debates change nothing" is clearly wrong, as you'd see at the ending poll of the whole debate.

I could listen to either Fry or Hitchens read the telephone book. They would make it riveting.

@SnoSixtyTwo god that tie is so FABULOUS.

Not all heroes wear capes.

Stephen could read the ingredients on a cornflake packet and make it sound captivating. He speaks such sound logic here about the man made tripe thought up by the catholic church and how little JC himself would recognise, indeed if he were here today I'm sure his reaction would not be dissimilar to that he showed to the money changers in the temple

"Is the Catholic Church a force for good in the world?" I think the fact that we even have to ask the question says something in itself, doesn't it?

Absolutely brilliant. If was possible to knight someone for services to eloquence, wisdom, and the power of the spoken language, then none is more deserving than Stephen Fry. This is fantastic. It's about time the Roman Catholic Church realised its failures and remedied them. Roman Catholics are lovely people - my head boy at school is one and I cannot think of a more delightful young gentlemen. But the church as an institution needs to look at itself in a damned good mirror.

Among the most intelligent and most eloquent men of our time! How much I admire him - his speeches and his books.

Excellent comment

Can you add subtitles in spanish? I know is too much but it will be great.

@tommac17 because there are people who would rather indulge themselves in such mock-art than actually challenge themselves with this brilliant essay on rational and skepticism.

Devastating. Fry's voice is the sound of the floor being mopped...

Stephen Fry is one of the most intelligent and elequent people of our time. This is one of the most brilliant speeches I've ever come across. It's passionate, informative and most importantly the truth. It's all very well people having their faith, but not when overrides common sense, basic human rights and descriminates against homosexuals, women and others. In short keep your religion to yourself and don't force it on others who don't want it. Peace:)

@DietDrMario I was genuinely pleased to see the wisdom of this comment. I agree with you from before and is therefore far from an unbiased reader, but it is important to take dogmatism with a grain (or shaker, if you will) of salt. I am not a Buddhist but a nihilist, yet what the world needs is not the claims to be right, but the will to find the truth, no matter how long it takes.

Hitchen's Razor. Live it.

like a boss.

No religion is a force for good. It is a means of control.

@huwpickrell1209

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Spot on

@Gediness Actually, I say that that's precisely what a religion is: a certain group's interpretation of original values (though I might say texts). This is the "value" of heresy in a religious tradition.

Stephen Fry is simply brilliant.

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 Well said sir! I now before you!! 😞😞

AMEN!!

Wow 👌💚

@tky011 Were those really a religious conflict though? I thought those were mostly about the sovereignty of Tibet.

@dancupid I understand your well made, polite point (such things are rare on youtube, I'm sure you'll agree). While my picture of modern life differs drastically from your I do agree that it is possible to get bogged down in the more murkey aspects. However, why does the escapism needed to cope have to come from something so flawed and with such dangerous manifestations? Why not lose yourself in Mark Twain, Shakespeare and Dickens rather than Genesis and Dueteronomy?

Indeed !!

I keep expecting people to go: "Darn it, he's right!" Tear off their robes and join the good cause!

'The eternal adventure of trying to discover moral truth in the world. "Discover" : it's a terribly important word...'

There is really only one measure of a government, society, religion, family or person: Do they promote love, kindness and justice - or hate, division and injustice. What do you see and hear around you? And, will you believe your own eyes and ears, or rely of what you're told? As a wise man said 2500 years ago; “Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.” ― Buddha Siddhartha Guatama Shakyamuni

@philipmarie1854 He isn't hateful of religion, as he clearly points out that he likes people with faith; he thinks it is a wonderful thing to have, and we shouldn't try to take it away. What he's saying is that the institutions are corrupt, and needs change. He isn't challenging morality, or trying to change our perspective of it. All he is doing is highlighting the failures of the Catholic Church in response to the motion. And he is wise, amazingly so.

The word genius is far too often used these days but you must consed that he is one.

Hi all - Hope you don't take this as SPAM, but I couldn't find a decent transcription of this amazing speech, so threw one together. I'd post a link to it, but can't quite figure out how...does KZread not allow links in comments? It's only a Google Document...

@drsherifff

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Late Response, but it doesnt.

I wouldn't go up against Hitchens and Fry on a debate "Does superhamzah85 exist?" coz I'd have my ass handed to me, somehow...:/

@Clifton100 Copernican rotation was a widely accepted view within the Church. Galileo was brought to Rome by high ranking Churchmen in order to work on his science there. Yes, there were some in the Church who opposed heliocentrism, but the Church as a body took no official position on it. It was never Church doctrine that the sun went around the earth; rather, that was the astronomical belief inherited from the classical Greek and Roman world.

What a fuckin Chad, goddamn Fry is so razor sharp

I honestly have this on my ipod..

@xyoop When was the last time someone was harmed or killed in the name of Buddha? In some ways the idea of a religion, if you can even call it that, that encourages such a peacefull lifestyle is very comforting to me. Makes my think there might be hope yet for this world we live in. On topic of the video I couldn't agree with Stephen more.

@philipmarie1854 I see that you quoted directly from Wikipedia. Now why didn't you include the next few lines: "Cardinal Michael von Faulhaber wrote in a confidential report that Hitler "undoubtedly lives in belief in God" and that he "recognizes Christianity as the builder of western culture." "Nazi General Gerhard Engel reported in his diary that in 1941 Hitler stated, "I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so."

Christopher Hitchens and Stephen Fry: 2 of the most influential representatives of the British culture and THOUGHT in the past 30 years. Simply put, two wonderful thinking human beings. My life would be so much poorer without knowing them. Thank you guys!

@dropperknot

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Iga 27 Are you serious, or just making a fool of yourself?

Oh before I forget, check out the book The Vatican Billions by Avro Manhattan

Brilliant eloquence... it's a pity he's now on their list of non-believers to be burnt at the stake.

Best speech in a long time Why does everything he says make sense? He doesn't base the things he says on assumptions from a book that says that it's content is indisputable, believe what it says or else you will burn in eternal hellfire. Am I making sense?

@sooperfukker not quite dead yet, but thanks for all your good wishes. which views do you think are mine? I think you're confusing me with someone else. but interesting to see how you think that having an opinion of your own, and making decisions yourself (instead of waiting for some bearded man making them for you) will soon come to an end. yes people, sooperfukker said it first, soon we will all be vegetables, merely existing. I hope you are still alive and well.

I'm so glad that Fry is such a fantastic debater. He admires and to some extent emulates the character of Oscar Wilde whom he played so well . If only we could all have a little charm and less bile in our personality.

i have to admit i agree with stephen fry and christopher hitchens, they're arguement speaks truth

This is the voice of an enlightened person. I think the Buddha would agree.

If i was to have a God then I would be happy for Stephen Fry to take that role.

'And the Lord said i will destroy humans whom i have created from the face of the earth'

@sooperfukker you are so right in saying that modern people reject the catholic church´s point of view on homosexuality. the church´s point of view is indeed very much outdated.

What the hell is the opposition nodding about when he is discussing Thomas Moore? Are they agreeing with him? Seems sort of odd.

And the man looks on trying not to snigger

I am a staunch American Protestant Christian and I do not hate Catholics but I also don't disagree with anything he has said in this video.

And charities are not charity but big business but mind still needs u

@MoonChild931 Yes but the motion is about Catholicism, not other religions.

i'm a huge fan of both Stephen Fry and Christopher Hitchens, and i honestly think that Stephen Fry's presentation was the best by far in the this debate.

@philipmarie1854 You are listing some small actions of individual priests. So? What is talked about here is the actions (and deliberate inactions) of the Church itself. This is also stated by mr. Fry.

@philipmarie1854 "I'm aware of the Mortara case but Edgardo truly was baptized ." Edgardo was baptized by a fourteen-year-old illiterate Catholic servant, without his parents’ permission, consent or knowledge. Then the Pope kidnap the child from the parents, saying that since he was baptised as Catholic (even though the girl was no priest) he was forever a Catholic and shouldn't be raised Jewish. Well the same is true for Hitler, another Catholic that never left the Church.

@LaceyOberst Thanks :D

💜

Much prefered Stephen on QI than Sandi.

Recently, concerning the visit of the Pope in the UK, Fry argued that he shouldn't be received with such honours, because he is not at the head of a proper state. And here he insists that the Vatican IS a state. Otherwise, nice.