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@robsquared2

6 күн бұрын

I had no idea this had a patreon.

@TodayIFoundOut

6 күн бұрын

Something we need to actually "advertise" as it were as our videos continue to get longer, this video notwithstanding, and more in depth and ad revenues in the general case decline a bit. :-) But yep, we have one. :-) -Daven

@Aemirys

5 күн бұрын

I had no idea as well and I've been watching the Whistler-Verse for quite some time. Thanks for letting us know!

I've never had my jaw drop so hard in the first minute of a video before. I don't know what I expected the origin story to be, but it sure wasn't that.

@SPQRKlio

6 күн бұрын

Same. Sorry to say, now that I found out, I’m out of here until the next video.

@michab4083

6 күн бұрын

Same here. Still, my jaw kept dropping further and further during the whole video. That was ... gruesome.

@teresabenson3385

6 күн бұрын

Yeah, I was thinking amputations, not this!

@bloodlove93

6 күн бұрын

as soon as i found out i looked over at a chainsaw nearby and said in my head: oh....yeah i can see that, freaking old medicine was crazy.

@glennt69lol

6 күн бұрын

WTF lol

That got really dark really fast.

I knew it was medical, but I thought it was for limb removal… 🤯

@bloodlove93

6 күн бұрын

take it from a 2d george carlin view...it looks vaguely penis shaped from the side....and where do they usually go? yeah.

@moeller48657

6 күн бұрын

Your idea would have been much better

@sydhenderson6753

6 күн бұрын

Bernhard Heine thought the same as you. I like how he kept improving the procedure to minimize collateral damage. Sounds like a very conscientious man.

@jwalster9412

6 күн бұрын

I've heard this story before, and I remember it now but my brain suppressed it for a while..

I have to clarify the American C-Section pricing statement; The doctor doesn't make enough money for vacation homes in America any more; It's the venture capitalist who purchased the hospital and proceeded to run it into the ground, extracting every possible bit of profit from the procedure on American Mothers who has the yacht now. Insurance company investors also get their piece. The doctor has 2 choices; join the machine or quit medicine. Times they are a-changing.

@jwalster9412

6 күн бұрын

As a Canadian,.I've seen a few comments of Americans in denial of their healthcare situation. Some have even gone as far as to say that the long wait times are somehow worse.. at least our hospitals are actually palatable, and won't try to break you over every possible.

@MeeraReads

6 күн бұрын

@@jwalster9412and as if the American healthcare system doesn’t have long wait times too lol. It can take 3-9 months to see a specialist, hours and hours at the emergency room unless you’re bleeding out of your eyeballs, etc

@alisonredmiles6372

5 күн бұрын

Even if you’re bleeding out of your eyeballs, you’ll wait six hours at an ER. My dad’s appendix burst and he went septic while waiting in the goddamn waiting room and no matter how many times we begged them to take him into emergency surgery, they told us he had to wait cuz they “couldn’t see anything wrong physically” even tho he turned literally grey, passed out, and even started having muscle seizing. They called security on us cuz we were all huddled around him sobbing cuz we were watching him die. He sat for six hours with bile flooding his system. Once the surgeon actually got to him, they told us there’s a possibility he wouldn’t live. The fact that he did live is completely against medical knowledge. He should not have. This was in one of the wealthiest counties in the entire United States.

@billpetersen298

5 күн бұрын

Yet, half of the population will defend it, to the death.

@karlharvymarx2650

4 күн бұрын

Mostly what I was going to say. When I was looking into becoming an MD, a not very old book at the time said average pay was around $100k/yr. I think it is now around $160k/yr, considering decades of inflation, that's not much of an increase and plainly even 10x that much wouldn't account for cost of medical treatment now which could cost that much in a day in some cases. Considering the level of education required, I think they deserve a raise after we change to public medicine. I'm not sure that venture capitalists specifically are to blame, but I'd guess investors in general--megacorp hospitals traded in stock markets and maybe upper level management. I don't know for certain, but my guess is Reagan era deregulation opened the floodgates for profiting off other people's work and human suffering since that seems to be around the time things got truly ridiculous. Sadly, I also have to partly blame a close family member who I think was nationally known as The Hatchet Lady, or something like that. Her job was to make medical businesses more "efficient," meaning fire doctors and nurses, cut corners, and a laundry list of things to maximize profits for investors by harming everyone else. What seems sad on a personal level is she didn't seem like a monster to me, but was willing to be one for the right price. Thanks to efficiency we can now die in the ER waiting room because there aren't enough doctors to treat everyone in a timely manner. Aunty probably wouldn't have had the job if medicine hadn't become such a lucrative investment opportunity and I imagine quite a few people would have lived longer and better.

"Doctor, the babys stuck, what can we do?!" 👨‍⚕️: I NEED A CHAINSAW, STAT!!

@WVUer21

6 күн бұрын

They said I was mad when I told them we needed a new Stihl in the OR!

@ferretyluv

5 күн бұрын

And today, we just use scissors.

@ChainsawFPV

5 күн бұрын

You rang?

@IndustrialBonecraft

5 күн бұрын

Nurse: "What!?" Fred Durst: "A chainsaw!"

@billpetersen298

5 күн бұрын

When a simple, sharp, clean, axe will do? Why a wood chipper?

The farmer saving his wife with the first successful C-section stands a chance of being true as unfortunately farmers took better care of their animals than Doctors did their parents.

@owennoad-watson2820

6 күн бұрын

Patients* although parents wouldn't surprise me in some instances

@itarry4

6 күн бұрын

@@owennoad-watson2820 hahahaha shit.

@brerobsym

6 күн бұрын

Yep. Animals were worth something, people weren't. Still the case even today. We euthanase our animals when they are too ill to continue living, yet we force people to exist. We prevent livestock that can not carry offspring to term and care for it from breeding, yet if a human is in the same position, bad luck. As a species, we are just a little bit deranged!

@sydhenderson6753

6 күн бұрын

There's at least one documented incident of a women giving herself a C-section. Just one, though. Sort of like the doctor in Antarctica who removed his own appendix.

@jwalster9412

6 күн бұрын

Doctors got paid a lot, while the farmers lived off of their animals, so it kinda makes sense.

Did not have "hearing simon say hoo ha" on my bingo card for today.

Fun fact: The Marquis de Sade in the 1780's imagined a steam-powered saw with a moving blade. Being the Marquis de Sade, I cannot go into detail about how it was to be used, but it wasn't trees.

"Then despair, tyrant, for McDuff from his mother's womb was untimely ripped." - William Shakespeare, Macbeth (the Scottish play)

@michelleb.6877

5 күн бұрын

I always reference that. Especially if nerdy friends are disappointed they need a c section!

My girlfriend in IT makes more than Dr Mike per hour. You gotta get to the hospital executive or investors level too get that vacation home

Religion... Wouldn't you know it would engage in the worst of human misery.

As an American, I have to protest the depiction of our healthcare system. We're not funding the doctor's second house, we're paying for the hospital administrator's third home and the insurance company CEO's private island

Thank you for covering the abuses women in Ireland faced

Now I wonder how someone saw a medical tool for cutting lady bits and thought "what a wonderful tool for cutting trees! " 😅😅😅

@bloodlove93

6 күн бұрын

when intrusive thoughts win

@fett713akamandodragon5

6 күн бұрын

Probably because people had been using saws in tree cutting and woodworking for a thousand years before a saw was used in medicine?

Breach is bottom first, not feet! A lot of people don't realize that they aren't referring to the bottom of the entire body, but rather the bottom that we sit upon. A bit like sitting in a round pool floatie and deciding to raise your arms and legs and just drop to dismount, except you discover that you are in fact too big and are now stuck with your shoulders to your knees. And now someone has to bring a chainsaw to cut you out because your head and feet are above water, your butt is in the water, and the floatie is screaming at the nurse

@epremeaux

5 күн бұрын

so.. folded? yeah that could obviously put a lot of strain on both the baby and mother.

I’m saving this amazing video to watch with my family - my mom is a cultural and literature studies professor and would absolutely find the first section of this video very interesting. Thanks Simon

@Shinzon23

6 күн бұрын

Let us know how that goes

@mariahs1123

5 күн бұрын

Interesting...and horrifying

Everyone needs to watch this until the end. WTF that this went on until TEN YEARS AGO!?!!

@zerofade

6 күн бұрын

Right, like seriously? I had to back it up to make sure I was hearing the dates right. I hate learning sometimes

@rubiconnn

6 күн бұрын

Religious whackos still don't surprise me

@pilotnamealreadytaken6035

6 күн бұрын

1981?

@pilotnamealreadytaken6035

6 күн бұрын

43ersomthing years ago... sounds about right, they were doing all kinds of weird shit "medically" back then... for no reason.

@mariahs1123

5 күн бұрын

The interview was 10 years ago. The mutilation of that woman was in the 80s.

one important part in chainsaw development that bears mentioning is the invention of the membrane carburetor, which allowed for chainsaws being used in any position necessary. you see prior to this invention a chainsaw had to be held upright for the engine to function.

@tracytron7162

4 күн бұрын

That's just engines in general, even some fighters in WWII had that issue, such as the Hurricane and early Spitfire's

I thought I expected what the invention would have been for. I was not expecting what the invention was for.

I saw a guy in the ER with a chainsaw wound to his knee It was brutal.

I wasn't horrified because I actually knew this use. It probably saved a lot of lives in the 19th century, both in childbirth and in amputation, but I was wondering how and if the pubis would heal afterward. Now I was horrified that Ireland would allow this so recently. I was picturing them using a modern chainsaw for limb removal, but the hand-cranked model sounds like it would cause less damage to the surrounding tissue.

@SonsOfLorgar

5 күн бұрын

Except that the motion of the hand crank means that the saw will wiggle with the cranking...😬

I’m sorry Facts Boy, I’m 1:50 in and I can’t do it. My wife had to be snipped for our first child and the sound from the scissors will haunt my nightmares forever. The thought of using a chainsaw is incomprehensible.

@michaelreid2329

5 күн бұрын

I got in further but had to stop at about the story at 1830.

In Germany we call the surgery "Kaiserschnitt", wich now makes me think it's a nod to Caesar instead of a doctor named Kaiser, as the translation is emperor cut.

Hearing Simon say "stuck in a ladies hoohaa" cracked me up....

Ok. I made it almost halfway through, but I've gotta tap out. The past truly IS the worst. It's amazing ANY of us survived.

I remember this being covered briefly in a brain blaze. This is gonna be good and horrifying.

Are used to be a paramedic, I started my medical training back in the mid 70s. What I was taught and used back then seems barbaric now. I had no idea this is where the chainsaw originated. Some of the macabre medical practices of the past and unfortunately, the recent past have caused a lot of suffering.

Yup. I actually knew this. So glad it's not necessary anymore...

All 3 of my kids were Csecs. The first was an emergency and the last two were scheduled surgeries, so I actually got to me in the room. A seriously wild experience. They do things that I just...let's just say that the Dunning-Kreuger was largely in effect that day lol.

So THIS is why the Chainsaw Devils so feared.

I "saw" what you did there.

I read about this years ago i was waiting for you to do this

I did not know about the 'Origins' of this tool, and HAVE seen the carnage it can cause to flesh, by people using chainsaws to process lumber. AS a Woman, the idea of THIS contraption being used to 'Assist' a laboring Woman deliver a living/healthy infant? O.o?!?!?!?

A couple years ago I bought a battery-powered chainsaw. It is the scariest tool I own. Gas saws have some drama to them. They feel and sound dangerous. The battery saw is like a lightsaber.

Ye gads, the history of the chainsaw might make even Leatherface himself puke inside his mask and run away, gagging...maybe...

That was soooooo satisfying to watch!! Erik Santos' and Stell's voice are so differebt, yet both so amazing. I love them both!! ❤

Quite an informative video - much appreciated. Though it immediately became more "Into the Shadows" than "Today I Found Out".

Plz do video about Beavers Butt Vanilla 😂😂😂😂😂

@KonekoPurrrfection

6 күн бұрын

Honestly who got their face up in a beaver Butt and said mmmmm that would taste delicious in my cakes and crepes

I can vouch for chainsaws being no joke. I was a ground apprentice for a large well known tree trimming/removal company shortly after high school. I witnessed the journeyman on our crew lower the chain bar down to his shin just as the chain was coming to a stop. One tooth of the chain nicked his shin just below his (too small) chaps and his entire lower leg and foot was soaked in blood within seconds. He not only cut the skin through his jeans but also sliced a chunk out of his shin bone. The wound overall was tiny but the amount of blood was insane and he was crying like a child.

A cursory view of that statistic of 36,000 chainsaw injuries reported in the USA annually shows that it includes the top ranked "noise induced hearing loss" suggesting that the stat is both inflated and motivated by some sort of anti-chainsaw activism. Yes, loud noises can cause hearing loss so wear proper ear protection around loud noises.

@Mendrawza24

6 күн бұрын

Big anti-chainsaw conspiracy is tearing this nation apart. Probably masterminded by the big axe industrial complex.

@scottclark7559

6 күн бұрын

I always double up when I'm cutting firewood...plugs and muffs. I'm usually doing it for several hours at a time and it doesn't just protect your hearing, it reduces fatigue. My hearing is already bad enough from being dumb when i was young, i have to protect what i have left lol.

@johndrennan5933

6 күн бұрын

@@scottclark7559 I'm with you on all that. I double up when I KNOW it's going to be loud and I've got a pair of foamies on my keyring at all times. I was shocked by that 36k accident statistic. It wouldn't surprise me if 95% is just imputed hearing loss, most of the rest back injuries and a tiny sliver what we would imagine as "chainsaw injuries". Most chainsaws run on gasoline and are mostly used to cut up trees --- that would make them the targets of at least two lunatic factions.

As a professional arborist.... This was cool to learn. Chainsaws are awesome machines

I thought it was for amputations, not for childbirth. 😨

Geez. That escalated

4:48 Well we don't kill a mother cow to save the calf do we?

That was gruesome . The past really was the worst.

So the Ripper in Fallout.. is real?

@TerrySterling-Thatguy

6 күн бұрын

where do you think they got the idea, the retrofuturism is inspired by 1950s United States

I will never look at the ripper in the Fallout games the same again.

*Simon:* "Chainsaws have a gruesome origin..." *Me:* "Yeah, probably chopping off limbs and such..." *Simon:* "So, childbirth complications..." *Me:* 😳🤯

Well that's gruesome AF... 😲

"Roman general and emperor Julius Caesar". Caesar was never an emperor.

@jochenstacker7448

6 күн бұрын

Interesting, I did not know that. That could be the next video, 10 things people always get wrong.

@snafu2350

6 күн бұрын

Just like Jesus wasn't christian: they both founded the system that eventually became what would follow

Simon: "In Ireland up to 1981!" Me: "Wait. What?" *One second later remembering* Me: "Oh, f■■k! It's THAT story isn't it?" Simon: "It's that story!"

Wow when you'd said it was used in surgery I really hadn't expected this horror story. Good god man. Can you imagine someone chainsawing your genitals and pelvic bone without any real anesthetic? 😳😥

I have an electric chainsaw. I thought it was a newer idea than petrol saws. the cable is only a couple of meters, so I'm not going to chase anyone with it.

I remember the origins of the chainsaw and it made my face tense up back then.

I was expecting icky, but not THAT!

Wow, this is morbidly fascinating 😅

Hooha and chainsaw should not be used in the same sentence 😢😮

As someone who has used a chainsaw for decades I had no idea as to its rather ancient origin. True, they are dangerous but over the years saws have become safer and if you are smart use them with caution and wear chaps and a helmet. That being said accidents always come as a surprise then the tree or branch does not react as expected. As an ex-Catholic horrendous abuse dictated by the church sadly did not come as a surprise.

40 seconds in and I paused the video and took my glasses off just to take a moment. Alright let’s do this.

And I thought they invented the Chainsaw to trim toenails and scratch off lottery Tickets.

This really could have been an Into the Shadows or Brain Blaze video.

The history of the English and Christendom violating the Irish goes back centuries. St. Patrick, it seems to me, was less concerned with "saving" the Irish and more concerned with "Eradicating the Pagans and Druids" who were (most likely) the "Snakes" from his fable (strong evidence that Ireland has been snake-free for most of human history), and not out of piousness or altruism but out of a deep seated hatred due to his stint as a slave. He was never cannonized and at _least_ the perception of a revenge plot likely played a part. We know that violence and coercion were common tactics, in general, for forcing conversion at the time and in the region, and some oral histories suggest that the erasure was not only of the Irish culture, but humans too, with allegations of anti-pagan genocide under St. Patrick being the actual meaning of the "snake" myth, esp. paired with notable drops in the irish population around the general timeframe (the calendars were yet unreliable at the time, it seems) there are enough known and provable outright lies in his tale that the rest can't really be dismissed out of hand, even if we take them with a grain of salt. and the 1600 years of brutal oppression under the Roman Catholics that followed doesn't help their case...

Honestly that belonged on "Into The Shadows" because today I did NOT want to find out... Actually I knew this already but somethings are best not to think about. I wish you al the very best!

I worked for Oregon chain in Milwaukee Oregon for 20 years…

I shouldn’t have listened to this. I didn’t even watch. I was in the kitchen (wearing my earphones) making breakfast while my phone was in the other room. My girlfriend asked me what was wrong, the disgust on my face was so evident. At one point I clutched my belly, I was so horrified by the history of the surgeries discussed. Oh, my!

I bought the movie "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" Simon drops a video about the creation of the Chainsaw.

OK.... before this they waited patiently for the STORK ?

I learned about the origin of the chainsaw from Stephen Fry on QI ages ago.

Gotta remember they were more interested in saving the child than the mother. You can always get another wife but an heir is important. 😅

Ummmm....what? A chainsaw for birth 😮

I know, desperate times call for desperate measures, but COME ON...

So thankful for not needing a c-section until 2004…😂

Good God! How horrendous!😮

I found this out when i watched QI many years ago

I have a feeling Denji would like this origin if he was real.

They had me at chainsaw!

Ah, the good old days. Some time back a workmate was waxing lyrical about how good the old days where back when we didn’t have so much medical intervention and nasty doctors “separating us from nature”. Another workmate said “uh huh. Say, didn’t you have your appendix out a few months back?”, and the guy said yes. The reply was “so you do know that in the good old days they didn’t have anaesthetic? Imagine getting held down and your appendix removed without effective painkillers.” Ouch. 😂

I once went to visit a friend who had just had a baby and she got up and showed me her newborn. Then she told me she had had a C-section. I was shocked, but apparently it's not quite as debilitating these days.

I'm usually not too bad at handling this kind of stuff but I had to tap out at 6 minutes and 53 seconds. Wow!

@namansinghnegi8931

6 күн бұрын

Same man...can't take any more of it... I have watched real human dissections on KZread...but somehow I can't watch this...

Mines Stihl working fine.

I thought the little cartoon came out and used his pokey thing and went, "Pizza, pizza!" and tries to eat the baby but then he's put back in his cage for next use.

I feel like a really important bit of information this video is lacking is that anesthesia wasn't invented until the mid 19th century.

I love this guy!

i always heard this story. but i still refuse to believe it

1:28-1:40🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 hey America, do you need some ice for that burn 😂

@SonsOfLorgar

5 күн бұрын

They can't afford ice, they have to work two more life times to pay off their infant checkups...

Gynecologists seeing Doom for the first time: me gusta.

Simon... wtf my dude.

At 10:30p it's my bedtime- Do I watch Simon talk about a gruesome origin story I already know or watch a makeup review that's 30 minutes long..... Definitely choosing Simon, bc why would I want to dream about makeup? 😂 Edit Aaaand of course the 1st electric chainsaw was patented in SF, my hometown 🥳

"Groovy"

I thought they invented them to make juggling more interesting

Both Me & My Mother Were Breach Births. However, I Was Delivered Via C-section, While My Mother Was Delivered The Natural Way. My Mother Had Her Tubes Tied After I Was Born & Mother's Mother Swore To Not Have Anymore Children After My Mother Was Born.

Another mother's breakin' Heart is takin' over When the violence causes silence We must be mistaken -Zombies, Cranberries

@KonekoPurrrfection

6 күн бұрын

I love that song

The fact that he didn’t mention those African women making successful C-section long before Europeans is astonishing

Yeah, I'd have just died. I'm fine with that.

amount of strength you require to utilize chainsaw is more than you will need for an axe

@diyeana

6 күн бұрын

That is not exactly my experience. Axes require a lot more stamina and strength combined. An axe takes me much longer to cut through, requiring more strength and stamina than a few steady swipes with a chainsaw. I'm female, older, with arthritis in my hands, wrists, and right shoulder. I don't have enough of either S for an axe. 😊

Well that’s not going to to work…

I know better than to click play on this one Granted, this means I've already gone through what Simon is about to on video

1:46 Julius Caesar was never an emperor

see how he did that? lol childbirth, widespread