Yo man, glad to see you still making videos, I remember watching your division 2 and outriders 1 million dps guides, good times.

Thanks this is exactly the breakdown I needed

Thx for the content, ive watched almost every video about diablo now from you !

I 100% agree. I started off with the maxroll build and have been slowly tweaking it. I am not quite 100 yet and mainly leveling and I didn't feel like I needed as much defense for what I am doing for now and I dropped most defense and picked up shadow imbuement for the AoE. I have enough energy regen/cost reduction/cooldown reduction that I dropped inner sight and went preparation and have zero issues. I think my points could use a little more tweaking but I know the paragon board could use more work considering the changes I made. I think I should check out your build as I still have shadow clone and death trap would have a shorter cooldown.

@JorgeMorales-es8gs

Жыл бұрын

If you were looking at wudijo's guide, he also plays hardcore so was playing with more survivability in mind

Nick you tha god, bro. Found your channel when you were dripping Destiny builds and you’re still doing your thing on Diablo. Good shit man.

Totally agree dude. Watched a guide before I started my rogue, and he went momentum, but once I read close-quarters... I used it ever since and loved it. Far more effective for me personally.

It increases not only Core skills speed but basic Attack speed too. Helps to faster regenerate resources.

i played around with the lucky hit passives. they are ok for the poison imbue builds. there is the aspect for the toxic pools that give you 100% up time on poison, 10% chance on crit. you do feel the difference, but i wouldn't say it's necessary for poison.

@Propy100

Жыл бұрын

Men does this make a differente. I think he has not tried this aspect with the posion explosion aspect and extra potency aspects while stacking lucky hit. You can simply spam posion imbuement and twisting blades (if you can get enough energy reg) its insane. Did uber lilith with that build

Been using it for a week now with my Flurry build. At level 87 currently doing level 50 nightmares and my build still needs a lot of work

Good stuff! Thanks!

great video! could you maybe make a video or build specifically for killing uber lilith? appreciate it

Precision& Second Wind is much more useful for a preparation build so every 100 energy you also proq second wind and regain energy if used with SkyHunter and FrostBurn can be very good to ultra freeze everything and then buff the skyhunter more so with the crit buffs

I just like the lucky hit for proc'ing execute, fun to see it pop up

Hey, I think you're wrong on Alchemist's Fortune and Second Wind as well. They ARE additive, not multiplicative. The reason your lucky hit isn't showing the full added amount is because it's spread over every attack. So, 2 attacks of Shadow Imbuement, 5 attacks of Rapid Fire, etc. So if you increase your lucky hit chance by 15, that's 3% per arrow of Rapid Fire (assumin 5 arrows, non-combo points).

@denirowaller3995

Жыл бұрын

See I stopped using those two after watching this video but it felt like my cool downs were taking longer to reset with exposure so I put it back on and I can feel the difference

Close Quarters also has an Aspect that ives stacking dodge until you do dodge, making dodge entropic. Not as good as momentum for defenses, but it still has some.

i actually do use aftermath instead of consuming shadows for energy regen, as it is a better fit for my build i run poison imbue with bursting venom, so consuming shadows doesn't always regen as much energy for me but if i was running shadow imbue, then definitely would switch to consuming shadows

Agreed, i've been pretty frustrated pulling up guides to glean some insight and i find them talking about combo points, but not using them, or weird skill/paragon allocations. Maybe too many moving pieces at the moment, and over-generalized build-creation ("well, lucky was good in these other classes, so we'll spec it here, too"... uggghh).

shout out to Nicktew grinding the content and giving me something to watch from work

Was hoping to see something new but basically the same opinion as mine. Good video straight to the point. Appreciated.

Using condemnation, an aspect that kinda does the same and combo points. Finally hit for over 1m yesterday.

Ice imbument is really good on flurry builds. One flurry with 360 degeee aoe freezes a whole pack. Then you also run shadow imbument and hit all the enemies. Dully stacked into dmg against crowd control and frozen enemies is huge. Im super tank and i just melt elites and packs. Then on bosses i stagger them very quickly with ice imbument and poison trap. Poison trap also has 30% chance to reset imbuments.

Thanks - I was using Momentum because I was gonna worry about build once I hit 50.

Momentum is really fun if you get the healing aspect that heals you every second for each stack you have. I’ve been trying to make a rogue tank with it it’s been cool 😎

@dantecapulong2710

Жыл бұрын

Same lols can tank mobs no prob. Been helping low level friends for fast exp farm.

@theNutmeg342

Жыл бұрын

What aspect provides the healing? I'd be very interested in this.

@gnataku17

Жыл бұрын

@@theNutmeg342 aspect of stolen vigor

@BANANA42k

Жыл бұрын

This aspect is nutty for surviving cc chains. As long as momentum doesn’t fall off your pretty much always full hp

@mikasasept

Жыл бұрын

it's pretty good early game but tbh once you get good gear you just heal more than enough with your crits, the things that might kill you as a rogue is a one shot definitely not a lack of healing

Love your video's, thanks for all the information. Using Poison imb. on my rogue, although it is not as good for clearing packs as Shadow imb, it melts elites/bosses etc. Just wandering why nobody else seems to run this.

@MiBrCo4177

Жыл бұрын

well a lot of builds are used by everyone for the pure big numbers and massive damage. understandable but having played the same build for the story on act 2 and so far 10 lvls on act 3, its boring as heck. any build that gives me a flurry setup (love that ability) and either poison, shadow, or ice, or mixes up things with dash, shadow step, stealth, smoke bomb, or caltrops; im all for. crowd control is great, massive 'omfg 2 billion damage' builds are fun, but remember you can change your build and gear around for certain scenarios. i used to switch my gear and builds before entering a boss room for a more single target dps build and it would wreck the bosses HP. sell a piece of equipment in town to make the gold back for redoing talents and you're making your money back.

How do you check the stat is multiplicative or additive? Love the content!

victimize is elite with the legendary affix that also makes it heal and temerity as it allows you to free up shiphoning strikes (or keep for even more healing)

@LuciferosDad

Жыл бұрын

I find that the crowded sage aspect works a lot better because the trade off of victimize and the cruel sustenance is the close combat passive which for my flurry build is non negotiable

I rocked momentum for a while during the campaign while I was learning to play the role. Then I switched to a trap rogue to play to the uniques that dropped for me in t4. I really really love death trap. Yeah I have to rock exposure tho

I think that lucky hit from Alchemist's Fortune and Second Wind are much better on Trap builds because it improves the consistency of Exposure which can be finnicky due to it rolling either cluster bombs or CDR. The paper math looks a lot worse than its actual performance after trying it out for a few days, especially if stacked.

@TickerSymbolYOU

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. It just looks bad on paper because the lucky hit is spread out over every individual hit.

@droid5785

Жыл бұрын

I thought it did the bombs and CDR reduction at the same time every time, woops

again, awesome tips. i follow your shadow lvling build, no cold couse no boots yet. just turned 60. i wona ask, whats your opinion on legendaries passives? closes quarters, momentum etc... if your using passive

I build my characters however I want. I don’t listen to his people online say I should do a build. It’s funny how I put my points into exactly the places you say to without needing direction from others. Great vid. I’ll be looking for others from you

On my level 66 TB rogue, I kinda rely on Aftermath. I'm using Shadow Clone, and once im out of energy I pop my Clone and I have enough energy to start spamming TB-s, also preparation helps with lowering cooldown. I don't have Umbral aspect yet and I don't think low roll is worth it. Once I get it, I'm hoping to drop Aftermath.

Love the Vid's Nik. Was curious mate, out of the 3 rogue specialisations, I tend to use Combo Points. Wanted your thoughts on the others, it just feels so great spending 3 X combo points in an imbued Twisting blades. I have tried the others but immediately go back, an I missing something in the other 2 specs? Also seems something a lot of guides don't mention (honestly not that I follow guides that well anyhow). Any feedback would be great! Cheers!

Awesome content bro. Great in depth explaining on why stuff is great and why stuff sucks 🏀

Up to 26 on my rogue alt. Looking through the skill tree I thought the same thing. I think tour spot on!

great vid !

The life regen momentum legendary affix makes you feel invincible with proper resistances... hard to give up for attack speed and a bit of cc dmg I can grab from the paragon board...

I am running a death trap and chilling catrops build with flurry, shadow step and shadow imbuement. Exposure is really strong, keeping my traps up very nice. But don't you think that exposure is the one skill, which could have great benefit out of a lucky hit build?

Does Cowl of the nameless unique stacks with lucky hit effects ? For example exposure gives 25% chance to proc is the helm adding another 25% or it doesn't work like this ?

Hey Nik, I’m one of your previous videos for twisted blades build you mentioned to check out your website for the updated skill tree. This says to use momentum, are you saying it’s potentially better to replace that?

Idk I'm running a cold and poison imbuement flurry build and I'm able to do tier 40 NMD with relative ease at 71 just because I can keep a pack of elites frozen in place for so long. I have been thinking about switching up to that daze on vulnerable aspect along with the daze/knockdown passive though. It's just so nice to consistently have aoe hard cc. Its hard to quantify numerically how much this helps with dmg and avoided damage, but it just feels so good. Being able to do content 22 lvls higher than me seems super fuckin good, especially considering I have so many gear and paragon improvements that could be made.

@redman4847

Жыл бұрын

i got something similar with the lucky hit daze effect along with the chance to spread crowd control, get the passive that crit a dazed enemy knocks them down and thank me later.. nothing can touch you, i just changed to chilled caltrops last night and going to try that as well

Yes, please make a video ranting about imbuement skills. Poison on its own is honestly great, but you can’t run either of the other imbuements by themselves, because they don’t cover bosses. Shadow imbuement only gets a lot of damage and buffs if you kill an enemy. I’d love to be able to run one type of imbuement, but even if they buff the utility/damage on them, the cooldown is too long to run just one imbuement, so there’s too much down time where I’m not doing good damage. That’s my thoughts, would love to hear yours though.

does this change anything in your TB deathtrap build?

You can use caltrops as a trap and it works like magic with exposure if you have the unique ...

Victimize is actually really good, it tears throughout groups and I heal for each hit from explosions

Id love to swap off momentum but I got these pants that give me 210hp healing per second per stack of if...basically that stacked with a few other defensive aspects, basically can't die even in wt4 nightmare dungeons

Ive been playing Close Quarters Combat as soon as I unlocked it.

That 20% DR is kind of necessary unfortunately at like 50+ NMs, I find. So I'm forced into Momentum. If that dirty Shaco would just drop already, then I'd happily switch to Close Quarters or Exposure (I still use Momentum with a DT build; was using Exposure before the damage spiked up big time). Good vid as always! Lots to think about. I'd take a Penitent drop too game, if you wanna be cool since I've only found a 680 version of it and...not about that life. Toss me a nice 820, thanks ;)

@howtyplcal350

11 ай бұрын

While I truly praise your efforts, I feel as if though they’re in vain. Honestly don’t believe there is anyway you’d truly be able to get a shako or anybody for that matter without being the luckiest SoB on the planet. :/

cold damage caltrops will freeze enemies sometimes regardless of me not having any cold damage on the build. I think that critting chilled enemies has a chance to freeze them.

Aftermath is good for me. I am a ice flurry rogue with shadow clone. With all of my CDR it’s down to about 40ish seconds, and I run preparation so that shortens the CD even more. Aftermath is not really a crutch for resource or anything (although it can be if I don’t manage my resource well or when fighting enemies with the tanky affix). Basically used for playing more aggressive before and after I pop the clone, and having more resource to burn will get it back faster. Which is nice, because I’m also utilizing the aspect that has the clone mimic my cold imbuement. Providing me with more stagger opportunities for bosses in higher NM dungeons, and helps me deal with dangerous packs when I get surrounded. I run CQC as well. I love it.

the only thing i don't like about imbuements is most of the time you don't have way to generate charges or add more charges except on the poison one so you have poor uptime. But i'm currently running a flurry cold imbuement rogue and i delete everything except bosses because stagger is pretty slow to build up. One flurry, everything is frozen, another one, everything is dead

@GTAndFortniteVideos1

5 ай бұрын

This is why it's so important to have different builds. I have a build for smaller maps and I have a build for bosses. Stop using crowd control skills for bosses , you aren't gonna do damage because that's not what that build is meant for.

What's missing from Close Quarters Combat is healing. Aspect of Stolen VIgor or Cruel Sustenance add healing and CQC gives dodge (which gives energy > then healing in a roundabout way using siphoning strikes but no way it compares)

@sethwood1676

Жыл бұрын

Yeah thats kind of what it's missing. I wouldnt go cqb for the simple fact that it doesn't give any sort of survivability.

I'm using forceful arrow with Rapid fire. Poison traps and Poison imbuement. For defensive I'm using Concealment and Dark Shroud. It can some times be a little bit slow for large groups even with reflective shot item for rapid fire, but, it absolutely melts bosses.

@derekfaust6531

Жыл бұрын

There's an aspect that generates dark shroud with critical hits on marksman skills. Def keep an eye out for that. My build is very similar. Instead of concealment I use caltrops as an "oh shit run" scenerios. I like dodging into groups, dropping a trap, and then caltrops TF outta there. Rapid fire the slowed enemies from trap and caltrops to death.

@Ramladon

Жыл бұрын

@@derekfaust6531 Thanks I have it on my pants. 😄 I'm old so I like to keep my builds simple as possible. Jumping in and out of stuff I would screw that up somehow and die. Sounds fun though. I use the basic speed boost on my weapon so I can quickly get my 3 marks and a vuln then volley or poison volley elites. rinse and repeat. I might run up to the edge drop trap then run back so it pulls ranged into the poison while I melt down knock back the melee trying to run in.

@Diversifried

Жыл бұрын

I ran a similar build till 56 but with ice imbue. rapid fire freeze, poison trap and force arrow for knock down and you can knock regular mobs into elites and it knocks them all down. Loved it. Freezing a whole screen with Rain of arrows was great. I've switched to a deathtrap tb build and currently wompin mobs at lvl 76. I recently got some uniques that I think would max out the rapid fire build. Windforce bow, Skyhunter bow, Penitent greaves, Word of Hakan amulet that gives ALL imbue to rain of arrows. I'm wondering if amulet will work with the Aspect that procs rain of arrows on targets. Concealment and healing while invis was my "oh shit" button

@Ramladon

Жыл бұрын

@@Diversifried I use concealment as often as a mana refresher as I do an oh shit button. It also triggers a vuln so its a good way to peak burst with poison.

Chill unique boots, Dash dropping smoke bomb, Caltrops dropping grenade, Grenades chance to freeze chilled targets based off of 2xcrit with a crit damage modifier to frozen. With 43 percent crit. I'm 86 percent to freeze plus the chill glyph and cold imbuement bonus damage to frozen. That's 4 charges of aoe freeze, 2 dash and 2 caltrops plus all the damage modifiers from gear, paragon, glyphs, cold imbuement and aspects. With all 3 agility spells it is super fun and damage and control is insane.

When looking at a build I need the legendary you have or any legendary as long as it has the right stats

Can you summarize what you think is the best build and abilities for a rogue? It’s difficult to remember exactly what you recommended

Im glad you finally double socketed your crossbow 👍

Momentum is something to consider while leveling up. I can’t see myself using that in the end game.

Those boots open up so many skills and paragon builds. 74 and still have not seen them drop.

i agree on the skill being useless, but i think the aspect that triggers a free dark shroud on 75% (max) of ur lucky crits with precision skills is worth going for some extra luck.

Yeah I’ve been using CQC with my Ashen (whatever it’s called) and condemnation… lol it’s fun.

How does weapon mastery work if you're using dagger and a sword at the same time? How does crossbow come to play if you never use any skills with crossbow?

ive been playin barrage with all imbuments and shadow step actually been really good at lvl 83

Lucky hit is good if you play poison imbuement and you want to consistently generate poison pools with the proper aspect... I mean, it's on a build that can kill Uber Lilith in 2min.

thank you 🙏

Attack speed is super nice but without a cutthroat skill and the benefits of more crit due to bursting venom proc, i have to go with the crit one But I'm trying to up my attack speed too since I need to hit enemies 3 times to get more damage and the difference is absolutely immense between a standard barrage and a proct barrage

@MrSfxer

11 ай бұрын

Shadow step is a cutthroat skill. Puncture to proc vuln, Shadow step behind elite, and backstab him with Rapid Fire. Works great with close quarters combat and tricks of the trade.

I noticed this but didn't use it because I wasn't really wanting a rogue I wanted a D2 style amazon so mostly range wish we had spears though

Your shadow build still playable ot better said , does it make sense to use lvl 69? Or is it better for endgame?

Victimize could be good for crowd control

Going to try close combat over the momentum. While momentum is good I feel like I'm able to output more dps @ lvl 56..

@Nick I used to use that.. full Power over 20k power at lv.70.. with CQC with %Damage %Vulnerable %Crit DMG %Crit Chance.. I don't even need modifiers for Frost etc. just pure POWER Build. ( CC % inculded as well ) But I stopped enjoying it and switched from Twisting to Flurry.. is more fun :D but unfortunately flurry is not good for 1v1, but! it's fun! ☺

I don't know how to decide between poison trap or death trap. Besides the massive cool down difference, poison trap does 1.5 times the damage and you can set four of them? I can't tell if it actually does better damage or not because poison trap says to "enemies in area" and death trap says "each enemy in area" so hard to decide, especially when I'm considering a spec for single target damage

I use close quarter with barrage, it's great

Im currently lvl 72 doing T4 high 30’s Nightmare Dungeons and I have never used Momentum, always CQC, and I have no problems surviving

I only put 1 rank in Sturdy because I have All Damage Reduction in my chest, pants, and amulet (all tons of other conditional damage reduction on those pieces plus legs).

Does Trap Rogue needs to have Lucky Hit Chance on either Ring or Gloves ?

Cool I used one of the builds but my crossbow won’t work am I doing something wrong?

I love your vids btw.

What about the Specialization?

Hey dude, love your build guides. Just a quick one though re: Victimize math. A 1:3 x 1:3 isn't 1:6, it's 1:9. Another way to express that is: 1/3/3 = 0.11 in other words, it's even worse than you originally thought. ;)

Wait so you get the sword/dagger bonuses on weapon mastery even when you're using a crossbow? The tooltip says "gain a bonus when attacked based on weapon type" so I'm surprised it works this way. edit: I'm very confident Weapon Mastery does NOT give you the bonuses for the weapons you're not currently using. E.g. if you're running a crossbow build with no skills that use your melee weapons, you will never see those sword/dagger bonuses applied.

NickTew is in his prime right now

@Endless10ppp

Жыл бұрын

He seems to be enjoying d4 :D

@DwyTheGuy

Жыл бұрын

He’s almost ascended to NickThree

@lisilverii

Жыл бұрын

Lmao I laughed so hard @Ensless10p, made my day ngl 😂

@oesntdatterm9548

Жыл бұрын

Is this an alt account to try and boost your own ego? Because I have reddit threads filled with rogue mains saying how bad all these build this video suggests and that the WF build I posted has helped people at level 75+ clear level 90+ nightmare dungeons. Aint that funny?

@DwyTheGuy

Жыл бұрын

@@oesntdatterm9548 the irony of talking about boosted ego then making a statement like that lol

your giant brain

@NickTew

Жыл бұрын

are you insulting me mr kackis

I use the lucky hit as a poison rogue to proc my puddles. The more those puddles proc, I'm able to have infinite charges on my poison imbuement. I do agree that it's useless without a reason for lucky hit though.

I do think Cold Imbuement could use a buff. But I just wanna point out that if you build a Cold Flurry, you can freeze like 10 enemies at the same time, all the time. Not once in a while. All the time.

@captnawesum3874

Жыл бұрын

I was just going to say, I’m freezing every time with Flurry Ice/shadow build. Plus playing along an Ice shards sorc…just destroys. Just got an aspect that increase crowd control duration for a longer time and they stay frozen for a long time.

@bonelessthincrust

Жыл бұрын

what gear is required?

@deadlift9360

Жыл бұрын

@@bonelessthincrust 2 random lvl 1 daggers, flurry hits like 4 times therefor you freeze with it super fast/ instantly. What you want to use it often is cooldown reduction on amulet/ helmet. If you feel like giving up some defense stats on chest/ pants you can get cdr for imbuements there too.

@hannohonk

Жыл бұрын

@@captnawesum3874 have u ever tried to combine the flurry-frost-nova with twisting blades? i played like this (more infused with shadow too) since launch and i never knew if this is stupid or not, but now im lvl87 and its still working great! i only have toughness issues but the dmg is just great. P.S.: i have a demo video of it with kinda shitty gear on my humble channel

@godofchaoskhorne5043

Жыл бұрын

If you use bursting venom you van endlessly spam poison xD

Rogue has so many good passives!! It's so hard to decide! But yes, Alchemist's Fortune and Second Wind, I don't even consider

So for Trapper rogue build, What 3 points do I reassign to Frigid Finesse? Only thing I could think is Innervation?

@THIRDxSAINT

Жыл бұрын

Never mind, I'm an idiot, I was using Aftermath :-(((((((

Thank you for the tips im gonna try this right now im close to 50

What do you think of the unique that continually rearms death trap until it kills something?

@eddyram4932

Жыл бұрын

From testing it, it doesn’t seem worth it. Death trap will always kill something that isn’t a boss. In big packs you will always have low level mobs that die easy to your trap🤷‍♂️ the cooldown from its own passive, plus exposure should give you a relatively low CD for Death Trap imo. I’m currently running Poison Trap+Caltrops(ice) and my Poison Trap has a near infinite uptime, which means my Poison Inbuement is also nearly infinite.

You know what's also insane for Rouge that I've never seen or heard anyone talk about? Improved Twisting Blades + Trick Attacks. There's a lot I could go into but, at lv 70 I can clear lv 85 Nightmare dungeons with just puncture and twisting blades. That leaves the entire class open for so many different builds and abilities and your paragon boards are also free. I do have a couple aspects on that improve the build but nothing required other in imo temerity pants.

@ericdebroux9685

Жыл бұрын

Rogue not "rouge"...

@PULAG

Жыл бұрын

Mulan Rouge baby wear that skank-ass lingerie!! P.s: literally everyone talks about Twist.

@notbeefttv

Жыл бұрын

Post the planner big daddy

@NanoNaps

Жыл бұрын

My trap flurry build does something similar. Currently lvl 85 doing around t60+ nightmares (~lvl 114+) I use trick attack together with the daze aspect and the 50% chance to spread crowd control aspect You knock one enemy down the entire room falls down less than a second later and it is guaranteed with poison trap, the daze aspect just keeps it happening even with poison trap on cooldown. Since flurry in mob groups heals 12% per cast + 3% per crit you also have sustain like crazy. Using shadow shroud with the lucky hit crits give a shroud and I am tanky as hell. Single target is somewhat less than twisting blades but at least I have 100% uptime on vuln on everyone due to flurry spreading it around.

@chrisfort6185

Жыл бұрын

@@NanoNaps which aspect are you referring to?

Oh i agree with Momentum and CQC. I actually prefer CQC and recommend it for leveling and its been buffed to 30%! its just that my damage currently at my level kills most mobs and elites in one Flurry and Rapid Fire, so it is mostly for the movement speed for now. 6/3 weapon mastery is freaking awesome. I cant imagine without now.

Im thinking i might swap to CQC when i get Temerity. Imagining ill die alot if i do it without. But ill give it a shot.

What about Stutter Step? Is it worth it?

Lucky hit would go good with venom burst actually but there are more important things to spend points on lol. And the amount of luck it gives is abysmal. If it was like a flat 20% for 3 points maybe

Close Quarters Combat is especially good since the recent patch that buffed it to 30% dmg from 20%

Complaining well earns subbie

Can you explain a bit more why using concussive 3/3 is bad for the daze build?

@uhBurrito

Жыл бұрын

I'm also curious about this bit at the end.

@CHlNY

Жыл бұрын

I think he misspoke. He’s using 3/3 concuss with mangler knockdown

Speaking of Lucky Hit. There are so many videos about Lucky Hit but none of them explain what it means when various aspects says, Lucky hit: skill has up to 10% chance to proc.... What does that mean? Does your luck stat boost it up to 10%? Is it just random?. How can you see if it's at 10% ( aspect of bursting venoms).

Close quarters combat + combo points is nutty. You get quick, fat 3 point core skill spam constantly. Flurry, twisting blades, whatever. Unless I'm running a death trap build it's my go-to. Another thing that is being slept on is how ice imbue synergizes with flurry. I want to make a death trap/Ice flurry build next.

@hermanperez3220

Жыл бұрын

Dude if you do a death trap ice flurry, post the build pls!

when i know i not run high lvl NMD i always equip close quarter kombat couse i play poison TW so i need that atackspeed(with all buffs i get to 120% atackspeed bonus)and when using Bursting venoms you alwasys have it up so big boss dmg

Using your shadow build with shadow clone ultimate, is it okay to just take my 3pts out of precision imbuement for frigid finesse for penitent? I kinda like the CDR from max shadow imbuement