Fun Fact: TheWeeknd didn't "sign up" for a pre-written role. Him and the director CO-WROTE THIS SHOW. Both are equally responsible for this absolute catastrophical mess.

@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375

10 ай бұрын

This is Weeknd's ego boost

@sybill123ful

10 ай бұрын

it’s also alleged that the reason amy simetz left is because the weekend didn’t like that he had such a small part in the show. It’s also completely filmed at his house and concert. it was literally just a show for the weekend to boost his ego

@spectra1096

10 ай бұрын

Actually Abel had most of this written like 6 months before they decided on Sam Levison and he fcked up the script and story. Not saying the Weeknd isnt a kinky werido but definitely upped the ante when Levison joined the project

@setsers1

10 ай бұрын

Good Grief

@glizzygobbler9459

10 ай бұрын

@@spectra1096Abel didn’t write it the first 6 months, a female director did

the woman who suggested they “get rid” of Tedros is probably the only remotely sane character in the entire show

@phishcatt

10 ай бұрын

No she's a shark too.

@xulzyysmith2184

10 ай бұрын

Only one other comment, I'm gonna change that.

@osmanyousif7849

10 ай бұрын

And yet they nuke anything we liked about her in the last few episodes…. F-U show

@brittanyw7546

10 ай бұрын

Sorry to be that person, but I think you mean "get rid of".

@cocogoat1111

10 ай бұрын

Destiny: "I think we should kill this mf" **everyone liked that**

The Weekend threatening to curbstomp someone is peak comedy. Especially with that haircut.

@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375

10 ай бұрын

The Weeknd is so non threatening

@ChatterboxFM

10 ай бұрын

@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 Also I think he was wearing a silk kimono in that scene? That, and the horrific rattail weren’t doing him any favors. EDIT: Swishy-90s Tracksuit. My bad. Only Eastern-Europeans and Italians can really pull them off when trying to look intimidating. It’s just a fact.

@societycrumbles

10 ай бұрын

They wanted it to be intimidating, but it was peak cringeeee.

@ginger_nspice

10 ай бұрын

Especially seeing how he's dramatically shorter than the other guy

@HalfLifeOfHumanity

10 ай бұрын

When your actual hair looks like a really cheap quality wig...

The Weeknd needs to stick to singing, because whenever he acts he comes out sounding like those Wattpad gangsters 😂

@MalcomHeavy

10 ай бұрын

What the fuck is a wattpad gangster?

@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375

10 ай бұрын

@@MalcomHeavyThose self inserts fanfics where the main character falls in love with a gangster who only personality is that he looks hot, and nothing else and might as well be toxic as hell

@xChikyx

10 ай бұрын

💀💀💀💀

@TheNDofUO

10 ай бұрын

​@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375And he doesn't even have that going for himself

@strawbearykiller

10 ай бұрын

The most accurate description of his acting 100% lmao

“He’s so rapey” “I kinda like that about him tho” Said no woman EVER!! Like who honestly writes a line like that and thinks “omg this is so steamy. Full send”

@SarahaR1298

10 ай бұрын

Speak for yourself. I know many women who are into that kind of thing. Including myself. To some it’s a sense of closer for trauma, to some it’s just what they’re into, to some it’s both. Just cause you don’t hear about it often in media doesn’t mean there’s a lot of ladies out there who feel this way.

@itsmorganayouswit

10 ай бұрын

@@SarahaR1298 I think they more of meant the way that lack of consent is approached in the show as being sexy and desirable rather than being presented as a kink with kink permission. The show is more likely to encourage incels who think no means yes and that all women like being forced against their will and find it hot, versus speaking for the demographic of women that have it as a kink but still require permission. No woman wants to encourage that line of thought, is I think what they meant.

@ata9419

10 ай бұрын

@@SarahaR1298Being approached by a socially inept incel is leagues away from a rape kink, just as getting pissed on in public is leagues away from a piss kink. Consensual rape rp comes with expectations; real, undiscussed predatory behavior loses any resemblance of a confined kink with the risk of being murdered, drugged, mutilated, etc. Jocelyn’s response is unrealistic even with a rape fetish, because there’s no way she doesn’t recognize the real-life implications that come with that encounter.

@SarahaR1298

10 ай бұрын

@@itsmorganayouswit well again, it’s still not true. Some of us truly don’t want any consent involved at all. I don’t know what the deal is with it and where that stems from but it’s just how we can feel.

@risingsuperstarfrost3096

10 ай бұрын

​​@@SarahaR1298sorry but if you actually want a rapist boyfriend and not just a kink thing you need therapy and I think you're overestimating the amount of women like that.

Tedros has zero credibility as a villain. Especially not for a cult leader, you need charisma for that.

@42Nightsyesterday

10 ай бұрын

Right, he got the psycho pathic narcissistic side of cult leaders right but he forgot the charisma isn’t edginess, it’s being likable. Cult leaders don’t start off crazy, they seem super approachable and Personable and then they gradually escalate

@pilotpat

10 ай бұрын

At least cult leaders "seem" like actual normal people.

@margarethmichelina5146

10 ай бұрын

​@@42NightsyesterdayLook at Charles Manson for example. The dude is always calm and has charisma.

@lumityviktuuristanartist4100

10 ай бұрын

​@42Nightsyesterday you described what I thought was missing ,I always thought he was psycho , the weeknd played that decently but I thought something was missing

I'm sorry but there is NO WAY you can make a rat tail attractive. It was doomed at the start

@cooliostarstache5474

10 ай бұрын

I was going to say Ewan McGregor in Phantom Menace, but no, even he can't save it

@TahtahmesDiary

10 ай бұрын

The only thing I can think of his how here in Cali I sometimes see beautiful South American teens and young men who have their heads shaved or short except these thick 2”+ wide braid that goes down their backs….but then it’s not really a rat tail anymore if it’s that thick and long 😅 I have seen them at the gym and it’s epic to see the arc of that long, perfect braid when they practice flips. I have often wondered if it’s cultural or just in style.

@PumpkinChi

10 ай бұрын

Honestly I think thats the source of his power

@bom6330

10 ай бұрын

Ice T in SVU

"99.9% of girls out there would find Tedros REPULSIVE." Literally, This. This show was dead the moment these writers thought The Weeknd's character would be convincible as "charming" and "addictive."

@stinkfinga4918

10 ай бұрын

Hes black. That's all they wanted lol

@lepjagman

10 ай бұрын

​@@stinkfinga4918 What does his race have to do with anything?

@stinkfinga4918

10 ай бұрын

@phillipsmith3382 because there's a very clear push to show black men and white women hooking up. I don't know why they do it but it seems really forced. It's rarely any other interracial mix, so clearly there's something to it.

@lepjagman

10 ай бұрын

@@stinkfinga4918 there's no "push" as far as I can see, it's just that interracial couples in general are becoming more common and media is reflecting that, I doubt they had a race in mind for Tedros.

@stinkfinga4918

10 ай бұрын

@phillipsmith3382 not initially, no, until the original plot was literally rewritten to be something completely different. Weeknd being one of the writers. And if they were trying to reflect common relationships you'd think they'd not be so obsessed with one pairing of black men and white women. That's my point. It's never black and Asian or hispanic or middle eastern. It's black man white woman every time lol

Its wild how they have a scene mocking intimacy coordinator in a show full of nude scenes, definitely represents producer's fetishes

@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375

10 ай бұрын

Bro is everywhere

@playerone7663

10 ай бұрын

Where did you find this comment, before reposting it here?

@societycrumbles

10 ай бұрын

We know Sam Levinson hates boundaries.

@JorgeF69

10 ай бұрын

This was one of weeknds many creative decisions he was given on the show

@vit968

10 ай бұрын

Now I really want some show or scene where Sam Levinson is mocked all the way. See how the egomaniac likes it

When I watched this show, I could not save my tears for another day.

@jerrys1

10 ай бұрын

😂

@LessPegasus

10 ай бұрын

seriously why would you watch a show in 2023 without checking the reviews?

@Hepheat75

10 ай бұрын

@@LessPegasus I watched it to see if the reviews were right. I now live with regret.

@dammypospisil

10 ай бұрын

you should create your own opinion, regardless the negative reviews

@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r

10 ай бұрын

@@dammypospisilWell when the show is absolutely horrid thats kind of hard to do lol

The Weeknd notoriously has avoided interviews, and being a public figure, he always had that mystery to him... Until this show came out and when it got criticism, he cried on social media like generic celebrity B would. Kinda ruined his whole persona overnight.

@thelastjerkbender2505

10 ай бұрын

I know. As if that wasn't bad enough, all the behind the scenes drama makes him come across like a chauvinistic ass. Like, I don't like Drake's music and I think he's Hella cringe but goddamn, you don't hear these kinds of things about him.

@TheSalamanderMenace4

10 ай бұрын

@@thelastjerkbender2505 well drake is allegendly a groomer but go on

@maddieb.4282

9 ай бұрын

@@thelastjerkbender2505…. No, we hear that stuff about Drake too lmfao

@AnneettaLife

8 ай бұрын

And because of his crybaby behavior I’ve been slowly losing interest in his music. I find myelf skipping his songs a lot when my playlist is on shuffle. These days it’s hard to separate the art from the artist.

@skrounst

8 ай бұрын

@@AnneettaLife His new stuff at least is skippable. It's disposable ear candy. But not gonna lie I can't skip "High For This" or "Wicked Game" even if he beat an old lady, and curb stomped a kid. Those songs are certified bangers. I still don't like him as a person though. And makes skipping newer lesser songs easier.

Intimacy co-ordinators are in place in real life for everyone's consent and boundaries to be respected . Jocelyn might be fine being naked for the shoot but the photographers / crew did not sign up for a nude shoot and could possibly be uncomfortable / sue. But hey that's not sexy right ? 😂😂

@clown-cult96

10 ай бұрын

Yes! I don’t see this talked about enough! Everyone thinks intimacy coordinators are there for just the star, but they’re there to protect the boundaries of the entire crew. Joslyn having her whiny girl boss moment about wanting to show her body off and not being allowed to isn’t the slay Sam thinks it is when the coordinator is there to make sure everyone is comfortable. What about the rest of the crew? What if they don’t want to see Jos’s nips? It’s a very shallow discussion that makes it all the more obvious Sam neither likes nor understands intimacy coordinators…which isn’t surprising.

@lizzyrank5405

10 ай бұрын

​@@clown-cult96yea, they could have easily rescheduled for another day as they get people that's ok with being around nude people

@tashaglam4824

10 ай бұрын

I think it’s also important to state that intimacy coordinators are not just there to protect the boundaries of the actors performing the scenes, but to also respect the crews consent and boundaries as well. It’s why they don’t let actors go off the cuff from what has already been rehearsed because the crew has to consent to the scenes being performed how they are.

@maddieb.4282

9 ай бұрын

@@tashaglam4824you know you just rephrased other people’s comments from this thread?

@fighterflight

7 ай бұрын

@@clown-cult96that’s not exactly true. intimacy coordinators are there because SAG-AFTRA requires it. SAG is the actors union. the crews have their own unions. and they don’t require intimacy coordinators to be there for the crew. according to SAG the coordinator is there as an advocate for the actors and as a liaison between the actors and the crew / production. the actors are the ones in the nude and performing simulated sex acts for their profession.

As someone who was a heavy drug user a few years back, if you add cocaine addiction to this series it becomes 100% more believable in my eyes.

@okeanosokeanos2716

10 ай бұрын

NO? We cant just add our own narrative to force feed shows we like. What you said is not an element within this show. It is just horribly written garbage.

@Chillnobody-vn3oh

10 ай бұрын

​@@okeanosokeanos2716Issa joke cuh

@cako666

10 ай бұрын

@@Chillnobody-vn3oh dude was probably having a bad day, he'll get over it 😂

@elvingearmasterirma7241

10 ай бұрын

​@@okeanosokeanos2716 Well I mean. We can... Add our own narratives to shows. And movies. And music. And paintings. Thats... What art is. The *experience* is _subjective_ regardless of the quality of the work

@TheLegPumpkin

10 ай бұрын

Cocaine addiction would be a realistic plot effect for degeneracy, this show avoided reality for what popstars with no connection to reality think it might be like and ending up with ridiculous garbage.

I have never seen a piece of fiction that made me go “This is what the creators are *actually* into” as much as this. The way it’s written, the way they hijacked the script and rewrote it with a conscious effort to step AWAY from a woman’s perspective, makes The Idol as blatant of a reflection on what the so-called talent in Hollywood is like. They’re telling on *themselves* in the most transparent way, but we can’t arrest them for being creeps. Shady weird shit is likely happening behind the scenes with Levinson, though, I can feel it.

@TheKitehh

10 ай бұрын

After this show I can't look at the Weekend the same I did. I like his music but this is such a turn off.

@Femmeaesthetic

10 ай бұрын

this show makes me want to know what the female directors idea was originally about this show

@potheadraccoon8536

10 ай бұрын

ah i guess the weird satanic bs he has in literally 99% of his videos are fine lol@@TheKitehh

@madeniquevanwyk

10 ай бұрын

​@@potheadraccoon8536lol satanic stuff? Could you elaborate on that? I don't wanna go watch his videos

@Piximae

10 ай бұрын

@@Femmeaesthetic I heard it was legit just going to be a look into how toxic fame and the current hollywood industry in general is. AKA similar, but way better written so the female lead isn't just a weird lady simp, and is appropriately written.

The Weeknd really discovered that women’s novel romance fantasies existed and thought to himself: “Yeah, I can be *that* guy.”

@lumityviktuuristanartist4100

10 ай бұрын

The weeknd read too much wattpad mafia romance stories

@CatharticCreation

9 ай бұрын

agreed , he would have had to be 10x hotter for this to be convincing

The *most unconvincing* thing about this show is the Weekend's "sex appeal"

@thelastjerkbender2505

10 ай бұрын

I know. And it's so weird considering, you know... The fact that The Weeknd has tons of fangirls and gets tail.

@huntsman145

10 ай бұрын

@@thelastjerkbender2505 Have you checked out his shows lately? The majority of his fan base are males with receeding hairlines. And likely porn addictions.

@stephensmith7327

9 ай бұрын

A lot of his music does paint him as a drug abusing car wreck waiting to happen. That's literally the plot of the music video of Blinding Lights. It's like how a bunch of critics say Brad Dourif was bad at voice acting in Dishonored when his most well known role is being the voice actor for Chucky the Killer Doll.

@cremetangerine82

8 ай бұрын

Maybe the song from "America Dad" is true!

@newp0rt

8 ай бұрын

hes famous

HBO Max renaming itself to Max is almost as bad as Twitter renaming itself "X"

@ge2719

10 ай бұрын

it didnt rename itself. its still called twitter. its logo is an x.

@itsmainelyyou5541

10 ай бұрын

@@ge2719 Which is still incredibly stupid. It's Twitter's rattail.

@ge2719

10 ай бұрын

@@itsmainelyyou5541 and thats your opinion. for a lot of people old twitter was a shithole of censoring facts and corrupt bs that means it needs to do at least some rebranding. The little blue bird was an happy friendly little logo created to disguise the horrible things that company did. and its not that same company any more. the blue bird is twitter rattail

@mischr13

10 ай бұрын

@@ge2719 uh no, he renamed it x, it's not just the logo

@jessy1982

10 ай бұрын

Yeah it just takes time to fully transition everything, but theyre changing their terms and conditions and everything already.@@mischr13

The Weekend makes it hard to take this show’s writing serious

@JorgeF69

10 ай бұрын

It's cause he re wrote the whole script lmao

@genericsocks7542

10 ай бұрын

@@JorgeF69Right and that makes it even worse bc it makes it feel like he is down w similar kind of shit in real life. Alas, we’ll never truly know unless a story comes out or something.

@michaelybarra3967

10 ай бұрын

The writing makes it hard to take this show's writing serious, and it was written by the weekend lol

@vannthybun2546

10 ай бұрын

He had cartay blanchay

Normally writers and producers at least try to disguise their fetishes when creating shows and movies In this case though those people's fetishes are the entire show What a trainwreck

@operationalbattlestation5477

10 ай бұрын

I feel like ‘American Horror story’ is the same way

@mort7987

10 ай бұрын

@@operationalbattlestation5477well at least some of AHS is actually good

@rasmuskock8077

10 ай бұрын

There are references to choking fetishises in this show, and Abel is known for being turned on by that. Like, come on man

@Th3_Sp4Ce_M0nK3y

9 ай бұрын

Gonna be honest, reading your comment made me think of Totally Spies

@nignamedmutt7270

7 ай бұрын

Dan Schneider is probably pissed as fuck that this show went "well", and probably would have told them to "tone it down dude, you're gonna out yourself" If Dan Schneider is telling you to cool it..... holy shit you fucked up big time....

Apparently the show was originally going to have a more nuanced perspective when Amy Seimetz (who helped create The Girlfriend Experience) was involved, even got a majority of the show shot apparently, but got fired because it was heading into too much of a "female perspective" and then they re-shot it with all the creepy abuse and rape fantasy stuff. Like there is a part of this premise about a female pop star being robbed of autonomy and agency in life that could work with the right perspective especially in light of what we know happened with Ke$ha and Britney Spears, giving the character some sex kinks could also work with the right type of writing. But it's very clear the subject matter is more fulfilling the writers fetishes (Particularly The Weeknd) than actually have anything interesting to say.

The Weeknd sounds like he tries to be a main hot and gangster but comes off as a character you would see in a BTS fanfic in Wattpad 😂

@rnpee

10 ай бұрын

The Weekend saw Massimo from 365 Days and copied his homework but changed the answers

@anib8863

10 ай бұрын

​@@rnpeeAt least Massimo's rich.

@tanielented4773

10 ай бұрын

I feel like he wanted to be that person who people will make fan edits of, like they do for BTS lmao. Especially in Cannes he was trying sooo hard to look sexy with weird expressions 😂

The Weeknd gives the vibe of the dude that said, "Are you lost baby girl?" 😭

So people were manipulated into joining Tedros' cult? You could almost say they were... blinded by his lights.

@fallacy08_shrine

10 ай бұрын

Lol moment

@danknfrshtv

10 ай бұрын

Dad?

@arachnoman7421

10 ай бұрын

It seems he truly is a Starboy

@dreamingsilver

10 ай бұрын

Lmaooo

This whole show feels like one huge self report

Sam Levinson and The Weekend wrote fanfiction with a self insert oc and the executives ate that shit up.

the fact that the weekend played tedros instead of letting an actual actor play him is all the evidence i need to know that the weekend just wanted to touch lily rose depp

@nobodyowens234Dr.Mid5

7 ай бұрын

Agreed dude like the weekend only wrote this show cause he wanted an excuse to do it with depps daughter 😂🤣

@DumbKneeGrows

6 ай бұрын

Um no they are dating already

I genuinely hope Lily-Rose Depp gets better roles.

@benabramowitz18

10 ай бұрын

Can’t wait for her in Robert Eggers’ Nosferatu!

@kemiiwii

10 ай бұрын

her and jennie kim honestly

@Ymirec

10 ай бұрын

same, I think she's really talented

@Phantom-ina-Phantom

10 ай бұрын

Yea but not as a s3x symbol

@TahtahmesDiary

10 ай бұрын

I think she did well in the show, but her reaction to criticisms spoke volumes to me (even tho it’s been drowned out by The Weeknds admittedly way worse reactions). I hope hearing the word “no” from collective viewers even after it dropped helps her grow in the future instead of give off the air it’s the rest of us who don’t know what we like or what good TV is. Then again she could have just been taking Sams lead, it was just off putting to me.

Another point about intimacy coordinators, they don't just protect Jocelyn from exploitation, but also ensure that the crew are okay with nudity and aren't participating out of coercion. It's for everyone participating in a nude shoot, not just the model.

The purpose of an intimacy coordinator is to basically make sure everyone consents to on-set nudity/sex. It's pretty common in Hollywood to have one on set, especially for shoots that involve nudity/sex. If you go to a shoot not expecting a nude scene, and all of a sudden a chick pops her tits out and someone there didn't consent, then the production is liable for that. Basically before a nude photoshoot/movie sex scene is filmed, the intimacy coordinator has to get written consent from everyone on set that day, sign waivers, all that shit. But the show basically portrays the IC as a dweeb whose "getting in the way", which is dumb. They're very important!

@dariuseatmon3971

10 ай бұрын

I don’t think you were that part was written in for you to be on Jocelyn’s team’s side. They made him sound reasonable. If anything I felt it was included to show how these celebrities and the people surrounding them treat people they see as lesser or unworthy of being taken seriously.

@lunacouer

8 ай бұрын

It was a really odd scene, the way it was inserted into an already chaotic opening. It felt like Sam was taking an opportunity to give the middle finger to everyone who's complained about all the nudity in Euphoria, especially when it comes to Sydney Sweeney. Either that or it's his fantasy of what he wishes he could do to intimacy coordinators. Or both. Dude just wants nudity in everything without needing permission. *ahem* That's the main problem with the show - all we can see are Sam and The Weeknd's influence. None of the characters are telling their own stories - what little story there is - so it all feels like one big self-insert. I really wish we'd been able to see Amy Seimetz's version. It might have actually been a good show.

No way I'd ever watch this, but is it possible this show is just the Weeknd telling the whole world what he's actually up to? He creeps me the fuck out.

@tjenadonn6158

10 ай бұрын

Something tells me this show is going to be looked back on with an air of "He literally told us exactly what he was doing to our faces and he still got away with it," akin to a good percentage of R. Kelly's discography.

@talynhastime9343

10 ай бұрын

@@tjenadonn6158I swear to God I have the same feeling. The way the story was handled, the reported production hell.. Weeknd in all this is like the cousin of Jared Leto’s behavior during Suicide Squad.

@lostinadifferentworld2752

10 ай бұрын

Watching y'all just now figure this out is like watching a toddler finally figure out which shape goes in the square hole..

@lostinadifferentworld2752

10 ай бұрын

Like.. I'm happy for y'all but a little frustrated by how long it took y'all to get here

@Nova_3579

10 ай бұрын

@lostinadifferentworld2752 It's not a race lol

"Is this show really going to glorify abuse" literally was doing that from the beginning lol. I think this show along with Euphoria makes Levinson seem like a creepy sex obsessed freak.

@voidinvestigator9908

10 ай бұрын

Euphoria was really good tho.

@wintersonnet

9 ай бұрын

@@voidinvestigator9908 Only the first season.

@iva837

9 ай бұрын

​@@voidinvestigator9908doesn't change the fact that this sam guy is obsessed with underage naked people on his shows

Oh my god no, the "trust exercise" scene is actually so fucked up and so scary because that's literally damn near word for word the same thing that happened to a girl on an episode of this true crime show I watch. Like, that has actually happened before but the girl was murdered. Which means one of the directors or writers has heard about that case, thought "yeah that's hot" and wrote it into the show ??? That's HORRIFIC and I'm honestly worried for Lilly Rose on this set.

@AbiSaysThings

10 ай бұрын

The Weeknd clearly just has an asphyxiation fetish that he feels the need to inflict on everyone like he wrote a whole song about it... Scary bc it's getting normalised as a "fun kinky" sex thing.

@EmpressRetard

10 ай бұрын

Lol it doesn't mean they've heard of that case

@raegengwozdz9714

10 ай бұрын

@@EmpressRetard They could've just come up with it on their own, but the similarities are chilling and still beyond fucked.

@amarreezlan7131

10 ай бұрын

the trust exercise scene is a common move in Kamasutra. not necessarily mean it was based on the true crime scene.

@Psilocybin77

10 ай бұрын

Spoiler alert: she’s fine.

If Jocelyn got Tetris man out of her life, and used the experience with abuse to motivate her to write an album about Tetris man that went ultra mega platinum, then it would be a much better story. They could have gone for something like the Frank and Amy Winehouse story. Where Frank, her ex, is a womanizing cheater, manipulator, etc, and Amy got him out of her life and wrote an entire album mostly about him that really kicked off her enormous career. But the damage she suffered from him and people like him eventually contributed to her enormous heroin and crack addiction and subsequent downfall.. So the victim overpowered and outplayed her abuser, but the abuse still happened and didn't go away from revenge, and thus she still got wrongfully afflicted by the vices people use to forget abuse like addiction. That would have been a far more nuanced and interesting story. Damn man, Hollywood is creatively bankrupt.. They can't even rip off ideas from real life anymore.. They think their farts smell so good that they keep crapping out this type of garbage media.

@luckyspurs

10 ай бұрын

I assumed that would be the twist. She'd write a brilliant album about getting abusive guys out of your life and that would be the hook that took her to a different level of stardom and public empathy/appreciation.

@dailyremindertoshutup3670

10 ай бұрын

​@@paulthomas963That's not what happened in those episodes..

@criscrosxxx

9 ай бұрын

Seethe

Another show using "Shock value" as sole interest but try to pass it as "subversive" and depecting the "harsh reality in it's most twisted ways". Got it

Johnny Depp's daughter's face always scared me a little bit. It's like she had way too much cheek filler lol

@killme5630

10 ай бұрын

Same lol. She's cute but damn

@IraserH

9 ай бұрын

True

@eleonorepb4565

8 ай бұрын

If only she was humble. But no she is like most nobles during feodal era, she considere that her lineage make her superior

Anyone else not watch the show and just wait for this video

@blueturret5596

10 ай бұрын

I wish I had just waited for this video. I’ll never get back the time I pissed away watching this show.

@skapie6895

10 ай бұрын

Yes

@JustMe-ub9yo

10 ай бұрын

I've never even heard of it

@shawnfields2369

8 ай бұрын

@@JustMe-ub9yo me neither. And I wish it stayed that way; because seeing the clips of the show in this video were laughably bad. I thought it was supposed to be a failed comedic parody; or something.

I wonder if the writers thought Stockholm syndrome could develop in a couple hours. Xander’s character makes zero sense

The problem with the "genius plot twist" is that there was next to no foreshadowing. Probably because they scratched all the flashback scenes of Jocelyn's life in favor of showing more extended soft p*rn... another huge problem for me is Abel's acting. He does not come off as the charismatic/sexy cult leader that he's supposed to be at all. Instead, his character is pure cringe. To be fair, a bunch of other stuff is cringe as well, but that's due to their terrible writing so yeah.

this happens when you glorified shows like euphoria

not sure how i feel about anyone who takes The Weeknd 100% seriously after this. my guy was fighting for his life on twitter to defend his goofy little rat tail character like he had just written a Christopher Nolan movie

That show made me want to nose dive out my window while watching it. It’s a challenge, literally.

There's something inherently creepy in a male writer creating a character that says she's into the guy with "rapey vibes". All through the show the writers fantasize in a glamorous way about a victim of abuse that copes with it by... enjoying more abuse? I'm sure this happens in the real world, but the overall tone of the show relating to this is just of really bad taste. I am close friends with an actual victim of abuse that often has self destructive behavior towards her own sexuality and let me tell you, it's not sexy and not glamorous by a long shot. It's a very, very masculine perception that victimized girls can gain back their power by being overly sexualized or by giving in to their own dark side - over the guidance of an aggressive male, of course. I am really glad how the entire KZread united to criticize this show, I would hate to see young girls thinking this is actually how you cope with trauma.

@DumbKneeGrows

6 ай бұрын

There are a lot of women who say that stuff like the author of 50 shades of gray

this show is just 365 days with aesthetics and snorting coke

@marianatheschizoid5912

10 ай бұрын

To be fair 365 days did have coke snorting in it. I feel like it’s 365 days if it was a celebrity vanity project.

@iz444

10 ай бұрын

@@marianatheschizoid5912 well yes.. i dont know i didnt watch the movies 😳 how could you sit and watch that abysmal 😭

@lumityviktuuristanartist4100

10 ай бұрын

Okay I feel like comparing this to 365 days is an insult , at least the idol had plot

After watching the entire show as per released episode. The only thing I can say that's a genuine bash of the show is that the show felt like *nothing ever really happened* . It's as if everyone was introduced only to be cast aside. Joselyn is the only character who has any "real" development but everyone else is along for the ride. The bigger issue is that once the story gets to a point where something interesting is actually happening, it gets wrapped up immediately. I'm starting to think that The Weekend simply chose to be a part of this project to add to the hype of his tour and get those gargantuan ticket sales. This whole show could have been a 2 hour movie with tons of more depth, just saying.

@suziebelle3738

10 ай бұрын

Nope, the weekend co wrote/directed it.

@greenpearlwhitesoul

9 ай бұрын

Velma: I'm the worst show on HBO! The Weekend: Hold my Terrible Acting!

@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375

10 ай бұрын

Velma is still worse but the Weeknd is the most insufferable actor ever

@lostinadifferentworld2752

10 ай бұрын

Velma wasn't great but most of the backlash was from white guys who can't take a joke

@lumityviktuuristanartist4100

10 ай бұрын

Nah , velma still holds " the worst show" title , both are similar in the fact that both have cheap plot twists

@denimschaffer9439

2 ай бұрын

@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375I honestly think this is worse because it’s glorifying abuse with all the bad acting and writing on top of it don’t get me wrong Velma is terrible but at least it wasn’t promoting abuse or anything it’s just bad writing and acting

So, were the writers of this show like, actual aliens who learned about humanity from the worst parts of the internet?

@L33Reacts

10 ай бұрын

No, AI aided scripts lol

Again, that guy can write addiction because he was a former addict, but everything else he writes is pretty bad.

@TheRealBillix

10 ай бұрын

Bet his whole personality is that he used to use drugs

@stormtraitor6545

10 ай бұрын

@@TheRealBillix Someone needs to tell Sam Levinson, and the film and TV industry in general, that drug abuse doesn’t automatically mean good writing.

I’d rather watch Elvis’s reaction to the entire show then watch this piece of garbage that had so much potential but was changed so much because The Weekend didn’t like that the show was in a female pov… It’s gross and disgusting, I honestly feel very bad for Lily Rose Depp cause she a pretty good actress and this show just exploited her. How did this even get off the ground cause it’s just awful?

@putyouinmyoven

10 ай бұрын

I'm in the same boat as you. I've watched all the 'low-downs' of the show because I'm sincerely afraid that if I watched the show I'd lose my last gram of faith in humanity.

@DumbKneeGrows

6 ай бұрын

lol no 😂quit spreading misinformation lily rose depp said she wanted more nude scenes in the show

I’m sorry but I just have SO MANY damn questions about this “I’m so dark and edgy” a** show🤡. If Jocelyn was “in control the whole time” why is she literally in shambles after finding out that tedros had her work friend take her to his club on purpose? Why did that matter? It can’t be because she feels betrayed by her friend because it’s not like she values her best friends, so why would she be worked up about a work friend she went out with once? It can’t be because she feels betrayed by tedros, given that her whole thing was “I’m gonna let him think he’s in control but it’s actually me😏”. It can’t be because Diane took the song because she didn’t even WANT it. it’s just so DUMB💀. Also if tedros is such a *cRaZy* dangerous scumbag, why does he turn into such a sniveling drunk mess the minute she pays attention to another dude? Why isn’t he going off? Where’s the rage? What happened to the guy that kidnapped some girl like why even bring that up at all? Furthermore there were not enough manipulation tactics at play for ANYONE to become brainwashed by ANYONE on this show. They tried to do this whole “build them up then break them down” thing but assaulting someone on ONE occasion then giving them a sponge bath ain’t gonna brainwash a damn thing🥴. Neither would going from adoring tedros then suddenly wanting nothing to do with him in a matter of what a few days maximum? And the whole “she was USING Tedros for INSPIRATION!” Thing is ABSOLUTELY HILARIOUS because there was nothing inspiring about that man😭‼️ Jocelyn was already a “sexually free” gworl and it’s not like it’s hard to find someone who will choke you out and talk nasty during sex. It was clearly never hard to find a complete jerk in her industry. They genuinely want us to think that tedros was some kind of MUSE when there’s nothing special about him… not to mention the music he “inspired” WASN’T EVEN THAT GOOD. I was genuinely waiting for the music to SLAP and it just sounded like a pretentious edgy teenager who’s listened to Lana Del Rey once💀. I swear the music had to be thrown together last minute. But as bad as everything was, the most unbearable part of this show was The Weeknd’s corny scoring. Initially it was just slightly annoying but then it became impossible to ignore. I bust out LAUGHING at “🎶 I’ve been manipulated a thousand tiimees🎶😔” it actually brought tears to my eyes it was so funny to me.. and I’m not even entirely sure why😭. The weeknd and levinson fr just need to take this L and move on because it’s embarrassing at this point🤡🤡.

What I read was the show was set up very different, but Weekend was upset his character wasn't the good guy. They had to do rewrite and reshoots to make him more sympathetic. That is why Weekend is trying so hard to make it work because he forced a lot of the changes that people are complaining about.

idk what’s worse. the horrendously awkward interactions between characters or the weekend’s silk press.

The only time a rat tail has been cool in my life. Is when I was like 3 and I wanted one cause the boy across the street had one. And when I was told only boys had them I cried and freaked out till my mom agreed. She kept it in for a week and would put like beads or a bow at then end to deal. But she couldn’t handle it and cut it off. 😂😂😂

@mirmir0003

10 ай бұрын

thank you for sharing LOL

@usernotime

10 ай бұрын

@mirmir0003 I was definitely stoned. Lol sorry for the cool story bro moment 😅

@mirmir0003

10 ай бұрын

@@usernotime it made my day. you sound really fun to be around tone: genuine since i type all weird and tone over text is hard

I am definitely no prude but I skipped almost all of the sex scenes because I just felt disgusting watching it lol. I had to take a shower after watching to feel clean again 😂

@luckyspurs

10 ай бұрын

It's probably because it's so clearly abusive. Like the Monica Bellucci shower scene in Spectre.

@killme5630

10 ай бұрын

And Jocelyn just showing off her ass like 💀 woman empowerment ig

Pretty amazing to see The Weeknd nuke his career at its peak on a weird vanity project. I’m sure he’s got some hits left in him, but how can you take him seriously after seeing him play Tedros?

HBO Max was re-branded to just "Max" because they realised the show is dogshit and they didn't want the HBO brand name to have anything to do with the show.

The only ways I could think of the show having gone better, other than not letting The Weeknd and Sam levinson write the show, would be if The Weeknd’s character started out charming and becoming abusive as they get closer, or just sticking to the original plan of it being a girly show like it supposedly started out as

There are certain people that you never want to hear say certain words…I could’ve gone my whole life without hearing “pussy” flop out of the Weekend’s mouth. Also, Johnny Depp must be super proud of his daughter. Nothing like watching your kids do soft core pron to really instill a sense of pride.

@erinnadia0409

10 ай бұрын

Super misogynist of you. She's 25 and can do whatever she wants, also Johnny Depp did a lot of edgy acting roles in the 80s and 90s. Also she's a French Model who's been nude her entire career. Hiring a model is a great option for a show like this because they are so desensitised to nudity and used to being an object.

@squeekytheanimefreak

10 ай бұрын

@@erinnadia0409 ah yes, peak female empowerment these days is being displayed nude in public and getting used to being treated “like an object”. 4th wave feminism at its finest, for sure. Also, it would appear that having her in this show wasn’t enough to save it. Maybe women should start refusing roles written by men with rape fantasies, but then Hollywood would be done.

@DumbKneeGrows

6 ай бұрын

⁠@@erinnadia0409🤦‍♂️🤡you call him a misogynist but then your last sentence is misogynistic asf

@hemipenes

2 ай бұрын

@@erinnadia0409misogynist? you can’t be serious rn

*Xander's turn towards the cult reminds me of the episode of Always Sunny where the McPoyle's kidnap the Gang, and like immediately Sweet Dee get's Stockholm Syndrome and turns on the guys*

ah yes the show where behind the scenes, The Weeknd hijacks a woman's script and ruins it by leaning less on the "female perspective," then unsubtly tells whatever he be into (misogyny, no surprise), further making this ironic of what this show is trying to do initially

If this show is any indication of what the weekend thinks good writing looks like, then maybe he should just stick to music.

Never let Same Levinson cook!

I laughed so fucking hard when I saw the weekend post a story comparing himself to Tony Montana from Scarface LMFAO bro actually thought he was HIM

@Music_Movie_Fan_

6 ай бұрын

Bro Al Pacino is fantastic actor and The Weeknd is just terrible garbage actor

It’s like they watched the worst characters on Game of Thrones and said “yeah bro, that’s a boss.”

How old is Johnny Depps daughter? Ive never seen a young looking person look so old...

@themischief420

10 ай бұрын

guess that's how it is when one of your parents is a horrible person

@billy6464

10 ай бұрын

that's how this whole gen of influencer type women are going to age

@themischief420

10 ай бұрын

@@billy6464 you just straight up sound like a misogynist lmao.

@hgxj6

10 ай бұрын

She just smokes a lot

@hgxj6

10 ай бұрын

@@themischief420 wdym

Subversion of expectations is a new gimick for poor writing. When done properly it's awesome, but it's like this new toy that a lot of writers just discovered or something and won't stop using.

Basicly what a intimacy coordinator is a person that makes sure people are ready and comfortable with scenes that involves kissing or a sex scene they are their so a sexual lawsuit does not hold production

i heard this show actually had a good script before sam levingston got his grubby little nubbins on it

It's almost like The Weeknd wants to know how into this sort of abuse his fans are. So made a TV show to test it.

Velma, The Idol and Secret Invasion are pretty serious contenders for the worst show of 2023

@xChaosFlower

10 ай бұрын

I didn't finish secret invasion. Was it that bad?

@lumityviktuuristanartist4100

10 ай бұрын

​@@xChaosFlower I haven’t heard about it , can you please tell what is it about ?

@DumbKneeGrows

6 ай бұрын

@@lumityviktuuristanartist4100it’s a marvel show

Whoever wrote the “stretch that tiny little p” line should be arrested and charged with a war crime

Uh oh, Elvis didn't censor the R word. See you all in the reupload!

Love how Tedros tries a Manhunt fatality on her, and she's still into him.

I wish I were in the room with Elvis to see his entire reaction on all the scenes live 😂🤣🤣

@luckyspurs

10 ай бұрын

I love how it feels like Elvis' real time reactions are the same as his for camera ones.

@criscrosxxx

9 ай бұрын

You can hack his stuff it youre into this type of crap

So hyped to watch you tear this up Elvis!

I hate that the close-ups show that Lily has had work done. It's very Kylie Jenner... in pictures it looks fine but once you really get movement and close ups and stuff you can see the work. I hate to sound like an a****** but she's definitely had work done.

@JimBz84

10 ай бұрын

Not great work either.

Why does the weekend look like a 40 yr old samoan mom with that hairdo

Tedros's hair looks like the woman's hair that accidentally used the gorilla glue instead of the got 2 be spray

“His rat tail looks like it could’ve killed Steve Irwin” I’ve been killed with that line holy guacamole

I love that everybody agreed with Destiny's suggestion to take "The Guy" out 😂❤

I haven’t watched one of your vids in awhile but man!! Your edits are so complex I love it!!!

@MikeCera1

10 ай бұрын

Yeah his editing his top tier imo. Every “Bruh” in the vid was just perfect

You know those obvious self-indulgent self-insert movies written, directed and starred by the same guy? There are more of those with arguably better plots and less skeeze than this.

Anybody else notice the recent trend of shows that are edgy for the sake of being edgy with every character being an asshole? Euphoria and Succession come to mind. People will say “but it’s so real that’s why it’s so edgy and everybody acts like an asshole” but I just think it’s cringe and an excuse for lazy writing.

Its About time lol 😂. *Been waiting for this one for awhile now. And you didn't disappoint*

0:36 I’m not calling it “max”. I’ll take the extra second to say HBO Max.

I've been waiting for you to cover this show 😂😅 Can't wait

Blinding Light is a great song. I really like it. Celebs kids are the worst. This series has zero appeal.

I mean there is a lot of cult stuff here that has happened in real life. You’d be surprised how easily it happens. Even seemingly normal and well adjusted people fall for things all the time and there’s interesting psychology behind it all. Also with the masochism/abuse thing. It’s common knowledge that some people respond to trauma by partaking in BDSM relationships as a means of taking control back. But this show handles it all so poorly. I think partially because they only had 5 episodes to tell a very complex story and focused on filling most of it with over the top scenes and moments to allow The Weeknd to show how edgy and cool he thinks he is. I don’t think the story itself is all that bad. I feel like something compelling could’ve been explored with this concept. But it was executed in the worst way imaginable. I wish we knew how the original was supposed to be before it was taken over and changed.

@elvingearmasterirma7241

10 ай бұрын

Those two writers wouldnt know how to write a healthy BDSM relationship if they had a step by step guide with detailed instructions

@citrus_sweet

10 ай бұрын

Maybe they would have been able to tell a believable and engaging story if they would just knock it off with the random six scenes that didn't add anything to the plot. This slop has lemon-fic tier plot writing.

@lumityviktuuristanartist4100

10 ай бұрын

But the last episode they say that she lied about her trauma , for a cheap plot-twist I agree they could have made a great show how not managing your trauma can screw you up , the struggle of an artist , manipulation , how predators seem harmless , fill your void and toss you aside but they wasted so many opportunities to just show sexual scenes

They should of made a documentary on the making of this show, it would have been so much more interesting than the show itself.

1. no boundaries 2. insecure the 2 things women find most attractive in men!

I swear, TV shows and movies like this must be for people who think that people like Andrew Tate is a catch.

Hey wait a minute. Is that Troye Sivan?? From 2014 youtube??

@gattomao

10 ай бұрын

Yes

@lumityviktuuristanartist4100

10 ай бұрын

Yes-

You didn't cover the best character, Destiny! She was the only character that seemed to really know what was going on and made rational decisions throughout.

Dunkin’ Donuts is known as just Dunkin’ now.

He created euphoria, an awful show, what do you expect

@erinnadia0409

10 ай бұрын

Yeah i never understood why people like euphoria? I was out the moment the show said a 14 year old girl had sex with a 40 year old man but the 14 year old "was totally in control" 😅🥲

@lookingforlove839

Ай бұрын

​​@@erinnadia0409I don't get it. Not the overly sexualised teenagers. I mean, come on, skins existed years before euphoria. Euphoria just added more nudity and more "edgy material" to it. That's all. And people overhyped it to the moon

So her management put out a hit piece explaining to the public how badly this dude had her whipped, and then AFTER that she gets up on stage in front of thousands of people and sings his praises? lol that's not a good look at all.

Tedros is written like how a 14 year old girl would write an angsty love interest on Wattpad

I haven't even attempted to watch this show. Haven't heard anything good or ok about it.

There are some working rights rules about nudity and intimacy on camera. Very important. It's not just about the actors but also about the camera guys and etc.

I just can't stop looking at everyone's weird cheeks.

I had a feeling Elvis would be dropping a heater today and IM SO GLAD I WAS RIGHT!!