Hi everyone! Thank you for taking the time to watch my video. Unfortunately, I’m not sure if I will be completing my hunger games series. My last video was taken down and my channel has been copyright striken. I may have to take down this video too. I’m very sorry for the disappointment. If you would like, I can post the audio for mockingjay parts 1 and 2 to complete the series, but I think all the movie images are the problem. Again, I’m very sorry!

@valeriegarcia3247

Жыл бұрын

Oh nooo :((( i just watched the last video and i was so looking forward to part 2

@valeriegarcia3247

Жыл бұрын

I would love to hear the audio for both!

The rooftop scene with Katniss and Peeta should definitely have been in the movie. It made there relationship believable in the book and would have added to the believability of Katniss' growing feeling for Peeta in the movie.

@idlechannel

Жыл бұрын

yes! i enjoyed them but i think the movies have done a bit of a disservice to katniss and peeta’s relationship.

There are a lot of details in chapter 9 that show how Snow and the Capitol are cracking down on District 12, even though the district as a whole has shown no hint of a rebellion. After Gale's whipping and the Hob has been burned down, the mines are closed. By the time they open half of the district is starving. More kids sign up for tesserae (including Gale's brother Rory), but sometimes the promised grain isn't received. Food shortages begin. The food delivered on Parcel Day, even more anticipated in such dire circumstances, arrives "spoiled and defiled by rodents." When the mines reopen, wages are cut and hours extended (no labor unions or collective bargaining, ya know), and miners are sent to "blatantly dangerous work sites." More and more people are punished for petty offenses. Katniss goes from the town heroine to feeling like a "pariah." These details are provided by Collins in the chapter that ends the first part of the book. It shows the building tension in district, and Katniss's increasing feelings of isolation. There's not a way to really include much of this in the movie without making it overly long, and moving the focus from Katniss. I think also the the script from the Catching Fire movie doesn't do a great job with Katniss's profound ambivalence toward a relationship with Gale, Peeta, or anyone. She had long promised herself that she would not marry or have children, in order to deny the Capitol that one thing, more fodder for the Games. I think the movie also doesn't portray other aspects of Katniss's complex psychology very well. She's so young, barely sixteen, and has already suffered a horrific tragedy as the books begin, the death of her father in a mining accident. He was clearly the emotional center of their family, and his death deprives them not only of that center, but a financial provider. Katniss has such harsh feelings for mother, whose profound grief left her unable to function. She doesn't understand yet how grief affects people differently, but instinctively resents the way she has been parentified (although she wouldn't use that term). The family was left to starve (as were other mining victims' families) by the government, a damning indictment of the entire system upon which Panem has been built. Katniss goes into the first games with PTSD, and comes out of them with complex PTSD. In the second novel, which begins about six months after the conclusion of the first, Katniss hasn't even begun to unpack all her emotions and thoughts, or been allowed to just be a teenage girl trying to decide between two very different but equally appealing suitors. No, she has to carry the weight of her trauma, her family, her district, and the political situation on her young shoulders. She has no idea how to even articulate everything she is thinking and feeling, and doesn't always believe she has the right to her own thoughts or feelings when she sees people around her suffering even more. Jennifer Lawrence is a terrific actress, and she conveys a lot in her expression and the tones of her voice, so her casting saved the movies in many ways. I don't know if the movies could delve into Katniss's state of mind much more without sacrificing pacing. One thing I think the novels explore in a more complete way than the movies is how authoritarian societies are ultimately the architects of their own destruction. Katniss's hardscrabble (but loving) upbringing and her personal tragedy ironically equip to enter the games, win the games, and ultimately lose the very person she set out to save, her precious sister Primrose. Collins is very precise even about small details that inform Katniss's character and outer aspect. For example, Effie, in the first novel, comments approvingly on Katniss's and Peeta's good table manners. Peeta of course comes from a merchant family, as had Katniss's mother, so both were taught elementary table manners in the home. Hearing Effie's snide comments about the previous year's tributes, Katniss remembers that the two had come from some of the poorest families in the Seam, and had "never...had enough to eat." In this seemingly throwaway comment, Collins reminds us that thanks to both her parents, Katniss has come to the Hunger Games uniquely prepared for this grotesque competition, without losing her empathy or sense of justice. This is a big part of Collins talent as a writer, and her background as a screenwriter shows in the novels. She gives us more than a script, but also lets her readers (mostly adolescents) draw conclusions about the characters and the society of Panem without spoon-feeding them. These are just my own thoughts about the novels, and not an observation on your own good work. I read the novels when I was in my forties, when my own daughter was about Katniss's age. Also, my educational background is in literature and classics, and I see the novels and movies through that prism.

@homeschoolhomelife

Жыл бұрын

This comment ❤ so many people overlook the complex trauma Katniss experienced and I don't understand especially if you've read the books. Katniss compartmentalized her feelings for Peeta because he was apart of the thing she wanted to forget. But in the books I think it's obvious she cares for him.

@marshatolbert154

Жыл бұрын

@@homeschoolhomelife Exactly. Katniss couldn’t sort out how she felt about either boy because her circumstances didn’t allow her to sort through what was real and what was forced upon her in the games. Even at the end of Mockingjay (the book), Katniss isn’t sure what would have happened between her and Gale if she hadn’t been sent to the Games. She wonders if the anger they both felt at their society may have grown into something “dark and twisted.” Peeta has always represented hope and renewal for Katniss, ever since he surreptitiously made sure she got the bread that kept her and her family from starving. She says in the first book that Peeta and dandelions (an edible weed) were linked in her psyche. She echoes that in the last book saying she needs “the dandelion in the spring. “ But because the books first audience were largely teenagers, they weren’t quite ready to see these subtleties. When you are the same age as the heroine, you can only relate from your own experience, and at that age you don’t know what you don’t know 🤷‍♀️.

@idlechannel

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your thoughts, you’re so articulate! I have seen people on Reddit before complain about Katniss being too whiny in the last book/movie but everything you said - if they were included in the movie I think it would’ve been easier to empathize and understand her.

@marshatolbert154

Жыл бұрын

@@idlechannel Thanks 😊 I think people who only watch the movies forget that Katniss is a teenager, who has suffered multiple traumas both before and during the events of the books. She suffers physical and psychological damage and is recovering (sort of) from an emotional breakdown at the beginning and end of “Mockingjay.” She is being asked-more like forced- to become the spokesperson and symbol of a revolution that she supports but is also wary of. I’ll take her whining over saying Haymitch’s descent into the bottle or Gale’s embrace of his rage any day.

I wish they just added everything and made the movie rated R or whatever because I really would have sat in the movie theater for 4 hours for the WHOLE series.

Haymitchs talent was drinking

@emilyrln

Жыл бұрын

That was my immediate thought 😂💀

The 75th hunger games was 100% snows idea. It's way to convenient that this was the quarter quell directly after Katniss won. He was trying to kill her

Small note on the talk in the attic of district 11; iirc the location was chosen because it was one of the few places that the capital hadn't tapped/wasn't listening in on Also while the quarter quells were predetermined in the letters, iirc the book points out that the letter for the 75th was notably new ... purposefully altered and passed off as one of the original prompts

@idlechannel

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for adding these details!

There was a deleted scene in the movie showing Plutarch burning the original quarter quell envelope, so the all stars version problably was planned, but for a later quarter quell and they specifically chose this one to get Katniss back in the game. I wish we knew what the other envelopes contained, quarter quell concepts are so interesting

@gengarcrobat1576

Жыл бұрын

I can't pinpoint exactly how I know, but I always figured that it was implied that the format was made specifically to get rid of Katniss

@idlechannel

Жыл бұрын

Wow I love that. Can I ask where you found the deleted scene?

@yellowhouse4911

Жыл бұрын

@idlechannel i originally saw it in a movieflames video, bur search for "Catching Fire Deleted Scenes (Sub. Español)" on KZread, starting at 2:29 you can see plutarch burning the original quarter quell envelope and replacing it with one from his pocket.

I recently read this book, and I thought that the female morphling drew a flower on peeta with her own blood! I know for sure he said it was beautiful and I loved that scene.

The moments where the careers showed humanity and allyship with other tributes are so sad knowing what happens in the games

You missed one detail but I'm not sure what the significance was. Katniss's ear was damaged in the original Hunger Games and was repaired. Beady showed Katniss how to detect the force field but she worked to create a ruse that she could hear it using the repaired ear.

@idlechannel

Жыл бұрын

Sorry I missed that! I am not sure of the significance either but it’s always nice to have a complete picture

I just finished reading the book, and I am almost positive that there was spinning. They talk about how it confuses them about where the lightning will come from because all the wedges look identical to each other, including the large conductive tree.

I like that Katniss gets her info about the rebellions etc from Mayor Undersee’s office in the book. Bonnie and Twill in the books were really interesting too ( more info about District 8 and alluding to District 13).

@idlechannel

Жыл бұрын

They were! And I wish they included Madge and her family in the movies, Katniss was a lot more likable to other characters in the books vs. movies

It amazes me that this is almost faithfully adapted.

You definitely delivered with this video. I agree a lot with the comparisons I feel like a lot of the meaning and subtle and small meanings in the book especially during the scene where they saved peeta wasn't as well showed in the movie. Definitely keep up this amazing work

@idlechannel

Жыл бұрын

thank you! i agree, i wish the movie could show as much as the book but the books are just so detailed

Very minor correction: Gale decides to stay in the district because there have been uprisings in 8, not because she wanted to bring Peeta and Haymitch. He so desperately wanted 12 to revolt, and seeing uprisings in other districts gave him hope. Great video!! 😃

hay Mitch is backstory sld've been included in the film since it mirrors Katniss and hay Mitch that their similar in their own way.

@idlechannel

Жыл бұрын

Definitely!

Wouldn’t it be nice to actually see the paintings of Peeta?

@idlechannel

Жыл бұрын

So nice 🥹

@williamjoyner3759

Жыл бұрын

@@idlechannel Thanks for what you’ve done.

Them cutting hameches games being watched was the worst part because that was my favorite part of the book

@idlechannel

Жыл бұрын

I wish they included it to! It would’ve answered a lot of questions about Haymitch for people who only watched the movies

@Razzberry_dollz

Жыл бұрын

@@idlechannel if they didn’t make it in the movie honestly that word been the perfect thing to do for a spin-off film after the third one sense that was so many people favorite part of book 2

You know I’m still sad mags had to die, but I’m glad it was the fog, cause can you imagine the monkeys…

@idlechannel

Жыл бұрын

Oh no… yes, maybe fog was best.

@CheezDoodlezz

2 ай бұрын

She still died a painful death in that fog

Wow, these are actually really well made, like really well made, keep this up

Loved the videos until now! Very good, I love these comparisons.

Really enjoyed that, I never read the books so that insight was great!

I really liked the video! I totally forgot Katniss was trying to give peeta an easy death at the end. This book was my absolute favorite.

Amazing video comparison!! I just read the book again and kept thinking of the small differences

Please keep up the great work with your channel! It’s great and I love watching these 😊

@idlechannel

Жыл бұрын

thank you so much! i appreciate your kindness 😊

your voice is really soothing lmao good video!

Love these vids! I almost feel sad at how much the movies skipped major parts in the film despite it being so long

@idlechannel

Жыл бұрын

Same! It’s understandable though, not sure how people would feel about having several movies for each book. I wouldn’t complain though…

Good video, earned a follower

@idlechannel

Жыл бұрын

thank you 😊

Loved this video!! Also, you had it right the first time, Woof is from District 8 not 5

@idlechannel

Жыл бұрын

thank you for clarifying!!

I hope you do this for Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes.

@idlechannel

Жыл бұрын

I want to! I’m not sure though because I am not so familiar with it vs. watching these movies/listening to the books 1000x 😂

@williamjoyner3759

Жыл бұрын

@@idlechannel Familiarity, comfort with the material, time. There is no rush. How can we be certain how close the screenplay will be to goes on in the book. I think we all are excited about the franchise and love your voice. I will wait! No rush.

I just finished rereading the books, and honestly - I think they are the most accurately translated series from book to film I have ever seen, more so than Harry Potter! Sure a few things are different, but the general gist stays the same. It’s fantastic!

some stuff from the book portion are wrong… 1. the pin belonged to madge’s aunt (her mothers sister) but i guess her mom’s after maysilee’s death 2. madge’s mom isn’t addicted morphling, madge specifies it’s for her headaches. 3. bonnie and twill stole the peacekeeper outfits

@ltfringr

11 ай бұрын

"for her headaches" could still mean addiction. It could be a euphemism, or because withdrawals would lead to headaches.

Woof is from district 8

which made gale sad :)

What did she dream over

@idlechannel

Жыл бұрын

when she’s sleeping next to gale, she dreams of being back in the games with clove, the district 2 female who was about to kill katniss but was killed by thresh

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