The Howmet TX: Rethink Everything

Автокөліктер мен көлік құралдары

What sounds like a fighter jet and is faster than a Ferrari? Ladies and gentlemen, meet the incredible Howmet TX, an experimental race car that is the only turbine-powered car to actually win a race. Built by a talented team of engineers in 1968 using little time and just $10,000, the first Howmet was very much a moon shot.
Now, with legendary Howmet TX engineer Bob McKee as your guide, watch this sports racer scream around the track like you’ve never heard before. From its complex start procedure to the sound of more than 350 horsepower and 650 lb-ft. of torque pouring out at 65,000 rpm, the TX is a car that had to be wholly engineered from the start as a turbine-powered racer.
Ingenious solutions like a wastegate-which allowed the engine to operate at 80% throttle, even in corners-helped the car claw back time on the race track. After all, a helicopter turbine in a race car produces lots of power for little size and weight, but its fuel consumption and unique powerband mean there are big trade-offs when adopting this type of engine.
Still, two were built, and on-track could hang with the world’s best, to the tune of the Porsche 907 and Ford GT40. Early reliability woes kept its true potential hidden, but wins at the Heart of Dixie and Marlboro 300 in 1968 were the first-ever for a turbine car.
Your best chance to see a Howmet is at a vintage racing event, but until then, turn up your speakers and enjoy the sight of an aircraft turbine harnessed for road use.
Petrolicious would like to thank Team Stradale, Autobahn Country Club, and Helimotion Chicago for their generous assistance in producing this episode.
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  • @Kodreanu23
    @Kodreanu238 жыл бұрын

    I don't know who the people behind this site are, but you are doing one amazing job. Thank you for your enthusiasm, and for letting all us younger people (born after those machines got created) getting to know them. I wish there was more videos about motorcycle, especially about racing two strokes, but I understand the audience is more interested in cars, therefore I have no complains :) Wish you all the best, and I don't know how are you doing it, but I hope you will keep it up :)

  • @arleyki

    @arleyki

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Kodreanu23 Thank you.

  • @colderwar

    @colderwar

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Kodreanu23 Well said

  • @ramonmv17

    @ramonmv17

    8 жыл бұрын

    Couldn't say it better

  • @causer1986

    @causer1986

    8 жыл бұрын

    great comment

  • @augustortiz
    @augustortiz8 жыл бұрын

    The camera work on this video is absolutely world class, panning from a distance was just awsome. The content, classic petrolicous!

  • @williamgson4055
    @williamgson40558 жыл бұрын

    The sound this makes during the flybys is out of this world. So cool!

  • @literallyartemis
    @literallyartemis8 жыл бұрын

    See, now that's where I have some pet peves with modern racing. Yes, I love that it is more safe, but when I look back in time to things like this, or things like the Chaparral 2J, I realize that in comparison, racing has sort of lost some of its soul- that ability to just build what you dream, and though I wasn't alive when it was around, I sort of miss that..

  • @dyingangelo

    @dyingangelo

    8 жыл бұрын

    +histotoxic the fucking system is being run by business people not engineers

  • @808SHIRTS

    @808SHIRTS

    8 жыл бұрын

    +histotoxic very well said! i was thinking the same as I watched this.

  • @Daniel-eu9xw

    @Daniel-eu9xw

    8 жыл бұрын

    +histotoxic You should watch WEC LMP1, they're aloud to use pretty much whatever engines they want as long as they don't use more than a certain amount of fuel per lap and can have pretty much any layout they want.

  • @literallyartemis

    @literallyartemis

    8 жыл бұрын

    ***** This comment contradicts everything I said. I said that we've lost the ability to be genuinely and openly creative in racing, not that we should hark back to the days where a twelve liter engine made thirty horsepower.

  • @slantfish65sd

    @slantfish65sd

    8 жыл бұрын

    histotoxic I get what you're saying in most forms of racing the governing body has there rules and that's it and yes the cars are safer but unfortunately they lack any creativity or character I guess that's why nostalgia racing seems more appealing to me

  • @gregscott989
    @gregscott989 Жыл бұрын

    He mentions Ray Heppenstall very briefly. I knew Ray in the 1970's when he was racing Super Vees. Brilliant guy. I believe he had run Cobras in the mid-1960's and saw the opportunity. The key here was the inlet area. Turbines are very much sensitive to the amount of area they have to take in air. Ray saw that and talked to the management at Howmet where he was working as an engineer.

  • @Trafo888
    @Trafo8888 жыл бұрын

    Building something like that in the 60's. How cool is that! Love this channel!

  • @MDDeGrande1994

    @MDDeGrande1994

    4 жыл бұрын

    Citroën DS, Mercedes 300SL, Porsche 959 (even though it's older), plus the 1950s American high-end luxury cars, etc... Designers and engineers were crazy innovative in the old times.

  • @Gaur1983
    @Gaur19838 жыл бұрын

    Spectacular.Both the car and the camerawork.

  • @vheggem
    @vheggem3 жыл бұрын

    Fabulous looking car, superb video, fantastic track. Genius.

  • @ClovissenpaiDotR
    @ClovissenpaiDotR5 жыл бұрын

    I can't get enough of the engine note tbh. Love it, seriously

  • @mildmanneredthinkingman9323
    @mildmanneredthinkingman93238 жыл бұрын

    Probably one if not as of right now, the best video you've guys made. You are the standard for docu-style car vids. Thanks for this!

  • @carswithluke
    @carswithluke8 жыл бұрын

    Hi Petrolicious! I came across your account by accident and i`m loving all the videos, so beautifully made. Its given me some motivation to go away and make better videos, although I find it hard to make such god videos doing everything alone. Im slowly making my way through watching all you videos now, lots of great sounds! Cheers.

  • @thromboid
    @thromboid3 жыл бұрын

    Always loved the turbine cars. :) So good to see this one still running. I wonder what sort of performance a turbo-electric hybrid could yield...

  • @eriklorentzen6510
    @eriklorentzen65108 жыл бұрын

    These videos are absolutely magnificent, not just for the ear porn of the exhaust notes on surround sound, not just for the eye candy of the gorgeous bodies of aluminum, plastic and steel. but for the information, the back stories, the souls of the cars that you guys catch so well. I had never heard of this car before watching this video, I had always toyed with mental games of how to design a turbine powered car, and had never thought of waste gating the turbine impeller to control thrust rather than adjusting fuel delivery and the resulting fuel guzzling consumption. Little tidbits like that from guys who have crossed those bridges already are priceless, and now recorded forever in the digital ether.

  • @KevinACarter
    @KevinACarter8 жыл бұрын

    This makes me smile. You gotta love that turbine sound.

  • @leonardclark615
    @leonardclark6158 жыл бұрын

    This car was actually built around the corner and up the street from my house when I was a boy. What an incredible private effort! I miss those times.

  • @trentmarlowe7655
    @trentmarlowe76558 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely brilliant video. Thank you very much.

  • @LAOVideoFiles
    @LAOVideoFiles8 жыл бұрын

    Great job as always, a beautiful video! congratulations

  • @JohnSmith-ud9ex
    @JohnSmith-ud9ex8 жыл бұрын

    What a wonderful episode : ) Thank you !!!

  • @MrAtheHun
    @MrAtheHun8 жыл бұрын

    Another beautifully made video. Thank you very much.

  • @toddmoore4887
    @toddmoore48874 жыл бұрын

    Very cool, Thanks for sharing this

  • @waynester71
    @waynester718 жыл бұрын

    'Strange & different' well, it's certainly different! I love the passion and insight that owners have for their cars. Another stunning video, the quality of the filming and music really helps capture the passion.

  • @Christophe_L
    @Christophe_L8 жыл бұрын

    "Everyone had more fun back then". This is what we need. Everything does not need to be SO SERIOUS.

  • @parkemon97
    @parkemon978 жыл бұрын

    Petrolicious: Informing the younger generation of these historic yet timeless machines. We thank you Petrolicious.

  • @jot6221
    @jot62218 ай бұрын

    They build a one of a kind turbine race car. Statement in the interview "It was one of the more interesting projects we did" 🤣

  • @retrojuhyun
    @retrojuhyun8 жыл бұрын

    such a beautiful car! lucky to see that art runs with my own eyes! thank you for keeping it clean and nice!

  • @kennethj1956
    @kennethj19568 жыл бұрын

    WHAT??? A Turbo-Charged Engine, without the Engine ........? . Dang Engineers!

  • @mr.bnatural3700

    @mr.bnatural3700

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Mr. Johnson I think it's a 3.0 V-8.

  • @ogentor_no

    @ogentor_no

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Mr. B Natural It's a turbine engine.

  • @mr.bnatural3700

    @mr.bnatural3700

    8 жыл бұрын

    Sir Lord Baron Von Nico A turbine V-8?

  • @BrunoOliveira-wi3yc

    @BrunoOliveira-wi3yc

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Mr. B Natural A jet-like turbine :)

  • @ogentor_no

    @ogentor_no

    8 жыл бұрын

    Mr. B Natural It's just a turbine engine taken from a helicopter. There is no combustion mechanism in the engine.

  • @slantfish65sd
    @slantfish65sd8 жыл бұрын

    Hey petrolicious folks this is an excellent video I love it I had no idea this car even existed but thank you so much this is why I keep coming back and Mr. Bob Mckee your work and your cars are awesome

  • @GT5ify
    @GT5ify8 жыл бұрын

    The Vids are awesome!!! Thank you! 👊🏻✌🏻️ Keep up the good work :)

  • @guitarman592000
    @guitarman5920007 жыл бұрын

    Love the Cortina rear ,lights !

  • @Bostonclassics1
    @Bostonclassics18 жыл бұрын

    This is amazing automotive history, professionally produced. Well done!

  • @michaellorenzen8200
    @michaellorenzen8200 Жыл бұрын

    what an amazing sound !

  • @ChrisCampbell66
    @ChrisCampbell668 жыл бұрын

    Fascinating and superbly produced piece, as always

  • @MrELIAN602
    @MrELIAN6028 жыл бұрын

    What a unique chanel. It keeps bringing amazing stories 👌👌👌

  • @AlainCarAudioManiac
    @AlainCarAudioManiac8 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely astonishing.

  • @sarahdell4042
    @sarahdell40428 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful piece, Thanks for the rare treat.

  • @CarlosOliveira-cj3iz
    @CarlosOliveira-cj3iz4 жыл бұрын

    Listen to it at LeMans Classic was something special. Fantastic car! Very good video, as ever.

  • @wolftmfg
    @wolftmfg5 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely loving it.

  • @memo1033
    @memo10333 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful History👍🏼♥️

  • @J6Studios
    @J6Studios8 жыл бұрын

    This is very cool!!

  • @-A.n.d.r.e.w-
    @-A.n.d.r.e.w-8 жыл бұрын

    What a creation! amazing job just to make this work! Love it!

  • @RUBIZEN
    @RUBIZEN8 жыл бұрын

    I think that with computer controlled throttle and a modern CVT (constantly variable transmission) acceleration and deceleration would be more manageble. Keep the engine RPM's in a certain range then use the trans for speed changes.

  • @thethirdman225

    @thethirdman225

    5 жыл бұрын

    I was thinking the same thing.

  • @colderwar
    @colderwar8 жыл бұрын

    Well, you really outdid yourselves with this one....best episode yet

  • @vsci79
    @vsci798 жыл бұрын

    Very very nice! Would love to hear the pure on board sound for a full lap around that track.

  • @stevebuscemi4669
    @stevebuscemi46698 жыл бұрын

    When I see this car all I can think of is the Mach 5. Thanks for the video Petrolicious, what a great find.

  • @huss1205
    @huss12058 жыл бұрын

    what a passionate team; respect!

  • @arnomaas6452
    @arnomaas64528 жыл бұрын

    what a great car and a great engineer !

  • @BruceBoschek
    @BruceBoschek8 жыл бұрын

    What an interesting car. I don't remember hearing of it back in the 1960s. The sound is really a bit unnerving, like a big Hoover. :-) Thanks for bring us this interesting experiment.

  • @xavierrodriguez2463
    @xavierrodriguez24633 жыл бұрын

    old school race cars, weighed next to nothing, grip was a theoretical concept, and engines were wild.

  • @Xynudu
    @Xynudu8 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting. I expect engine braking would be very limited, requiring some HD brakes to last. It was that era, and the Chaparral also springs to mind as more lateral thinking outside the box. But then it took something different to beat the Porches at that time. Great video, and glad to see the builder feature in it.

  • @Berenvacht
    @Berenvacht8 жыл бұрын

    amazing footage, you guys are real pros

  • @Dethmeister
    @Dethmeister8 жыл бұрын

    So cool, I love this channel! This car reminds me of THX 1138.

  • @CrossWindsPat
    @CrossWindsPat8 жыл бұрын

    9 people clearly were shaking uncontrollably from joy when they went to hit the like button.

  • @aleoimpala
    @aleoimpala8 жыл бұрын

    Amazing sound!

  • @mikenowicki466
    @mikenowicki4668 жыл бұрын

    I live in Palatine and I actually met Bob McKee. He is a really nice guy and he showed me around his shop.

  • @hugh-johnfleming289
    @hugh-johnfleming2898 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! Dialed back on the music and showed off the car FINALLY. Damn cool car as well. Hoozahs.

  • @stephencoy3576
    @stephencoy35768 жыл бұрын

    Back in the day! ............. Thanks

  • @v12tommy
    @v12tommy8 жыл бұрын

    I love all the turbine cars. I actually thought they would make a comeback here a few years ago with cars like the Jaguar CX75 concept, and others using micro turbines. Like he mentioned, turbines are great at full throttle, but they flat out inhale fuel at idle compared to a piston engine. I think that was one of Chrysler's issues with their turbine concept back in the 1960s as well. I really thought micro turbine hybrids would be the missing link to fix that where you have a battery powered car, then the micro turbine (about the size of a loaf of bread, 18lbs, 400 hp) kicks on, runs at full power until the battery is charged, and then shuts off again. While I think it came ever so close to fruition, it was a few years too late. Battery technology made a monumental leap in the last few years, enabling cars like the Tesla Model S to get similar range to an internal combustion car, and recharge in around 20 minutes, with that number dropping as time goes on. Not good for racing, but suitable for normal cars. There is still a little hope for turbine cars in the form of big rigs. I heard at least one company is building, or has built, a turbine powered hybrid big rig, the idea being once a truck is on the road, it travels at a pretty constant rate of speed.

  • @shintsu01

    @shintsu01

    8 жыл бұрын

    +v12tommy yes i was realy dissapointed when the CX75 was not fit with turbines :( would have been soo nice. for the jag it made sense tough since it was to run on a single speed as an generator since the actual motors on the wheels where planned to be electric

  • @PKmode
    @PKmode8 жыл бұрын

    I just saw THIS car in person last weekend! Awesome.

  • @THESLlCK

    @THESLlCK

    2 жыл бұрын

    how are things since 5 years ago?

  • @Dangerous_Drivers_of_CA
    @Dangerous_Drivers_of_CA8 жыл бұрын

    That's a beautiful car.

  • @sltillim
    @sltillim8 жыл бұрын

    Amazing aerial shots!

  • @SS8styles

    @SS8styles

    8 жыл бұрын

    I was just typing the same thing, these are some of the best aerial shots I've seen at a track in recent memory...really curious on the setup, looks like a drone based on the low altitude, but then they had those zoomed shots and perfect tracking which I thought you need a legit helicopter for...Maybe they had one of those super expensive drones that carries a serious camera where one guy is running the camera, the other controlling flight?

  • @Accelx

    @Accelx

    8 жыл бұрын

    +SoSickWidit real helicopter with a Shotover camera system on it.

  • @PowderMonkey4Life
    @PowderMonkey4Life8 жыл бұрын

    Dang when Bob sez small shop in Palatine he means it. I use to hang out/ work at the m/c shop next door.

  • @lesizmor9079

    @lesizmor9079

    5 жыл бұрын

    I was a teenager in the Palatine area (Arlington Heights) during this time--- prime meat for this activity, and I didn't hear of this thing. I'm somewhat miffed. And amazed.

  • @zuffenhaussen
    @zuffenhaussen8 жыл бұрын

    What a great chance to enjoy those helicopter shots. What a car and a fantastic story behind it.

  • @lesizmor9079

    @lesizmor9079

    5 жыл бұрын

    drone shots

  • @junior5146
    @junior51468 жыл бұрын

    FUCK the filming is awesome! I love this channel.

  • @Heavy_Distortion
    @Heavy_Distortion8 жыл бұрын

    a rare gem

  • @richardcarr6493
    @richardcarr64933 жыл бұрын

    How did I not hear of this race car until now??

  • @eternitynaut
    @eternitynaut8 жыл бұрын

    If it was to be done again it should be a hybrid. That way they wouldn't need a waste gate, they would be able to run the turbine at peak efficiency all the time to charge batteries that in turn would drive electric motors. With such a design, the turbine could be made smaller as well, it would just need to be big enough to ensure enough charge for the batteries.

  • @ethanknight8461

    @ethanknight8461

    5 жыл бұрын

    eternitynaut it makes sense also to make up for the lack of torque likely found in this engine and use a modern cvt transmission, even though they are not completely efficient would work on this car

  • @16-bit-trip5
    @16-bit-trip58 жыл бұрын

    It kind of nuts when you think about the fact that 50 years ago people were able to build what amounts to jet powered cars.

  • @stephaniekent8483
    @stephaniekent84836 жыл бұрын

    saw this at Oulton park racing.... heard it, touched it wow !

  • @PttyBlue43
    @PttyBlue438 жыл бұрын

    Such a beautiful car.

  • @TheoXydias_PerlaCoffeeTrailer
    @TheoXydias_PerlaCoffeeTrailer8 жыл бұрын

    one word AWESOME

  • @andresbonelli1826
    @andresbonelli18268 жыл бұрын

    Hats off to the director!

  • @joelyboyblue
    @joelyboyblue8 жыл бұрын

    That's WICKED, what a brilliant guy

  • @milwaukeemechanic7425
    @milwaukeemechanic74258 жыл бұрын

    Seen this car last weekend at Milwaukee Masterpiece

  • @AutomotiveAnatomy
    @AutomotiveAnatomy8 жыл бұрын

    Imagine having this as a daily driver...lol allright hunny raise the back so we can get it started and drop off the kids at school lol once again my favorite youtube channel!

  • @alexcheetah79

    @alexcheetah79

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Gustavo Moreno Chrysler made a turbine car as an everyday car.

  • @AutomotiveAnatomy

    @AutomotiveAnatomy

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Alexander Est but i am guessing they can turn on the car with a key or push button right lol

  • @3248934

    @3248934

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Gustavo Moreno Jay Leno also has a turbine motorcycle.

  • @eficzeri
    @eficzeri8 жыл бұрын

    Pretty damn cool.

  • @shintsu01
    @shintsu018 жыл бұрын

    amazing, i am always intrested in cars with special engines like 787B for example :) but this is even more intrestring :)

  • @dimasfajs
    @dimasfajs8 жыл бұрын

    This is the beast!!

  • @netmatrix75
    @netmatrix758 жыл бұрын

    Even though the car is old, but it sounds futuristic. Though in reality futuristic cars does not make any noise these days.

  • @pgrens
    @pgrens8 жыл бұрын

    What a great last line. Hoisting my beer to Bob McKee.

  • @Zomby1Woof
    @Zomby1Woof8 жыл бұрын

    I sure enjoyed that video. I never had heard of that car before. I thought the only turbine cars had been the STP Indy turbine cars. I wonder if there have been any others.

  • @alexanderrassyhin9695
    @alexanderrassyhin96958 жыл бұрын

    amazing!)

  • @emanyo
    @emanyo8 жыл бұрын

    I wish there were production turbine cars. Don't give up the dream Chrysler!

  • @Eckhausen1
    @Eckhausen18 жыл бұрын

    Love the TVR taillights...

  • @rustyfox81
    @rustyfox818 жыл бұрын

    Great ! The tail lights remind me of a 60's Ford Cortina (Europe). Also reminds me of Jay Leno's Chrysler turbine car from 1962. I like the idea where the thrust is directed upward to allow the turbine to run at a steady rpm under breaking. Does that also generate some down force ?

  • @stelamo
    @stelamo8 жыл бұрын

    3:47 mk1 Ford cortina lights??

  • @900108Chale

    @900108Chale

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes of all the terrible taillights of the era the chose Cortina lights...

  • @bladecutter3821

    @bladecutter3821

    5 жыл бұрын

    yeah, same taillights Eric Broadley chose for the Lola GT which btw is what the GT-40 was developed from.

  • @VitoBertaudeau
    @VitoBertaudeau8 жыл бұрын

    gracias y compartido

  • @slowlearner984
    @slowlearner9848 жыл бұрын

    Great work +petrolicious. Loved this vid. What an amazing car. The only thing I'd like to know is what it's like to drive.

  • @oilguzzler
    @oilguzzler8 жыл бұрын

    The drone shots are amazing, almost unreal... They reminded me of Granturismo the video game.

  • @vsauceisepic

    @vsauceisepic

    8 жыл бұрын

    they are proper helicopter shots, not drones

  • @oilguzzler

    @oilguzzler

    8 жыл бұрын

    +vsauceisepic i guess you're right they look too good, fast and accurate. Plus at the end of the video the driver turns thumb up to camera.

  • @lllllln3sty
    @lllllln3sty8 жыл бұрын

    i have somewhere in my garage a miniature toy car of this model, i totally recognized the lines. unbelievable

  • @karlluppold240
    @karlluppold2406 жыл бұрын

    I like the Ford Cortina Tail lights, the exact same as the 1963 Lola Mk VI GT that the Ford GT-40 was later heavily based on.

  • 8 жыл бұрын

    Oh my... Beautiful footage! Those aerial shots are just perfect! Serious question though: how do you guys get the budget together for these films? Can I donate?

  • @sausageseggandchips
    @sausageseggandchips4 жыл бұрын

    Nice chap.

  • @BeanDip96_
    @BeanDip96_8 жыл бұрын

    God I love those TVR tail-lights, they just make it that much more bizarre.

  • @1183newman

    @1183newman

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Brandon Ryan dont you mean those cortina tail-lights :D. TVR never built their own tailights until the 90s

  • @BeanDip96_

    @BeanDip96_

    8 жыл бұрын

    sam newman I know they're Cortina lights, its just the 1967 TVR 2200 is what popped into my mind first. Typed it without thinking really.

  • @gooseit

    @gooseit

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Brandon Ryan And they're the European lights with the amber turn signals.

  • @mercoid

    @mercoid

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Brandon Ryan So funny. I just learned that those were Cortina lights from a very old Top Gear episode I watched on YT not 15 minutes ago. Then I watched this and recognized them immediately.

  • @3248934

    @3248934

    8 жыл бұрын

    +mercoid Do you have a link to it? I want to see it.

  • @DrivingDallas214
    @DrivingDallas2148 жыл бұрын

    great audio clips

  • @nzdatsports9659
    @nzdatsports96598 жыл бұрын

    power to that man !!!

  • @alexanderswander8176
    @alexanderswander81765 жыл бұрын

    Wow, imagine driving this thing on the streets

  • @badman519
    @badman5198 жыл бұрын

    Not often innovation, engineering, and imagination can colide in such a way.

  • @ericcorse
    @ericcorse8 жыл бұрын

    That is cool.

  • @SachiGortchi
    @SachiGortchi3 жыл бұрын

    superb ! which track ?

  • @stephencrowley7513
    @stephencrowley75138 жыл бұрын

    awsome

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