I love how everyone now just call's Mauga's cardiac overdrive the "Ha HAA!"

@faxmine

26 күн бұрын

Lmao I love it because it IS kinda obnoxious when he laughs. Ha HAAAHH

@BuyMyBeard

26 күн бұрын

KarQ still calls it *Cardiac Arrest*

@immrjonesyy

26 күн бұрын

its like sekke from black clover

@siberian3021

26 күн бұрын

i told my duo about the nickname Ha HAA and he burst out lauging for 1 minute straight

@sebastianrodriguez8992

26 күн бұрын

​@@faxmineI'm pretty sure that's on purpose 😂

Pharah is now vulnerable to a head shot with hanzo. The Shimada will rise again, the sleeping dragon just need to wake up.

@georgegorvaniagerge7077

26 күн бұрын

finaly my widow skills will be more useful in battle!

@MabiSmash

26 күн бұрын

"Cmon crouching tiger dont hide that dragon!"

@dongdoodler

26 күн бұрын

Lets buff pharah against anyone not tracer. Asked nobody

@GamingChair420

26 күн бұрын

metal ranks: "I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that"

@CalamariZander

26 күн бұрын

doesn’t she have armor?

THEY NERF LUCIO BOOP BUT DIDN'T NERF MUAGA!? 💀💀

@noisetank13

26 күн бұрын

Didn't even give him his 20 damage back lol, they reverted all the buffs but not the nerfs.

@stixxuwu

26 күн бұрын

Mauga isnt even that good rn

@pollling

26 күн бұрын

​@@stixxuwu have you been playing?

@deathstroke2305

26 күн бұрын

Mauga is worse now, there's much stronger tanks now

@truckmuncher8998

26 күн бұрын

@@polllingMauga is essentially banned by dva and sigma they block the whole duration if cardiac overdrive he can do nothing against them

Josh golly, who would've thought tanks will become godzilla.

@GunieaPig

26 күн бұрын

I love it

@leedunkin3338

26 күн бұрын

Whatever they gotta do for the one tank slot not to turn into the NO tank slot

@RRRRRRRRR33

26 күн бұрын

Yep, a real mystery why the tanks are so unbalanced

@You_are_wrong99

26 күн бұрын

pretty sure they know exactly what they doing and this patch shows that. pretty common tactics by company.

@hrast4109

26 күн бұрын

no way bro said josh golly

Lucio really out here catching strays

@Leuhim

26 күн бұрын

I don't want to go back when booping people would push them 2 feet away with the addition of less damage and more hp

@pinty2109

26 күн бұрын

@@Leuhim boop

@ElderSkorp

26 күн бұрын

Not really 😂 you legit couldn't play brawl tanks while Lucio was on the field before this patch

@bigfudge2031

26 күн бұрын

They could have put Lucio's damage back to 20 since he literally does 9 damage against armour now... That is literally 55% less damage.

@marfman3654

26 күн бұрын

​@@ElderSkorptanks dont go anywhere, they go like 2 feet.

I really don't think you or any high ranking player understand how much a menace Zarya is at the metal ranks and QP. If they don't coordinate against you, you're just a terminator gaining strength as you get close to your target to delete them. I like Zarya but that nerf was for the little guys.

@leedunkin3338

26 күн бұрын

It really is a problem. There needs to be a "stop shooting her bubble" voice line added to the callouts list

@ibraxiv-_-6653

26 күн бұрын

Just play Mauga into her I don’t think he’s too difficult for low ELO players

@A_Weed_Naturally

26 күн бұрын

The counter to zarya is just to stop shooting her bubble, its really not that hard

@dinodj5

26 күн бұрын

​@@ibraxiv-_-6653you're going make the rest of your team despise you.

@DragonEdge10

26 күн бұрын

On the other hand my experience has been that a ton of Zaryas think they're the terminator, get way too little kills while getting no tank value thus leaving everyone to die and nobody backing them up, then blames team. Either way, this nerf will temper Zarya to actually try to tank more which is great

Call me crazy, but as someone who works with musicians for one of my jobs, I thought of something about last patch, and this kinda confirms it. Those of you who've played an instrument can probably understand where I'm coming from. Ever tried tuning your saxophone or trumpet or flute with a tuner and no matter what, you can't get it just right? It's flat, so you push in a little bit, but no matter if it was barely a nudge, all of a sudden you're sharp, so you try to pull out a fraction, only go to back to where you are. So, in frustration, you just pull all the way out, go flat as hell and WAY out of tune, and you just tune up from there. I think guitars and violins do this too, if I recall correctly. Maybe that's what the dev team is doing? Clearly micro-buffs and micro-nerfs weren't working to balance the game so why not just absolutely go bazonga on the biggest issue (ie: tanks), break it completely, make it completely out of tune, and then just go from there to try to tune it properly. It's sure better than another season (two months, two or more patches) of rolling out a bunch of micro-adjustments that we've been doing over and over and over and over since Season 9 *and going practically nowhere*. After all, the definition of insanity is...(?)

@davidcenturion961

26 күн бұрын

Is a good one, and actually is a good idea (maybe)

@RaidenKunii

26 күн бұрын

Yea thats what it seems, ive also heard its easier to nerf a busted character than to try and buff a bad character

@m.m4ru

26 күн бұрын

Hey that's not a bad idea

@ultrahotwings9738

26 күн бұрын

@@RaidenKunii It really is. In OW1 S2 (or S3, I forget) when Ana was released, she was so busted that she broke the game. Imagine giving a Lucio speed buff to whoever you nano boosted. Nano Rein was terrifying as hell. They had to do a bunch of nerfs to prevent the game from being so busted. (EDIT: This whole issue with giving speed is why I'm actually afraid of Space Ranger's release. I'm hoping they learned their lesson from that fiasco.) So, when they released Sombra next, they made her completely underwhelming... and since nobody wanted to play a weak throw pick, Blizz got absolutely no data on her, what needed to be fixed, what were potential pain points, etc. It was impossible to balance her, because they had absolutely no idea where to begin and community feedback was basically "throw pick, lol". She had to get a complete rework in, I think Season 8 (of OW1) to bust her enough to even make her viable and hopefully get some data there. (I was salty over that, being an OG Sombra main playing with a Tracer and Winston friend who abused my healthpacks and gave me ult charge. Good ol' days...) Pretty much every hero release I can think of (except for Lifeweaver) has been completely overtuned for that very reason. It really is easier to fix something when it's busted to the point of absurdity.

@sebastianrodriguez8992

26 күн бұрын

​@@RaidenKuniimuch easier tye difference between nerfing mauga and buffing Life weaver are pretty apparent he was cracked on release then got nerfed down to a decent spot but life weaver took them like 6 seasons to make him work before he was at least decent but he still ain't that great 😂

Hey quick psa for blizzard, you can change others things than damage and health btw, ammo is a big thingbas well

@luigi64fan

26 күн бұрын

They forgot this after mauga

@dyamimc

26 күн бұрын

They have no idea what they're doing. There are so many different things you can change yet they stick with health, damage and cooldowns

@PurpleMoon799

26 күн бұрын

they only change bap's ammo i swear 😂

@Whodadman

26 күн бұрын

@@luigi64fanthey nerfed Mei ammo fairly recently, but yeah.

@skullknight630

26 күн бұрын

​@@Whodadmanthey also played around genjis for a while

Devs: poops out one of the worst patches Devs: realised they fucked up and poops out a hot fix Flats: They a kind’a cooking

@dantevic

26 күн бұрын

I highly disagree. The patch was a lot of fun except for mauga.

@hoosleepy

26 күн бұрын

@@dantevicfun at the expense of literally every other role, just how the dps passive is “really fun” for dps players but miserable for tanks

@dantevic

26 күн бұрын

@@hoosleepy I didn't play dps since the patch but I played tank and support amd was having a lot of fun.

@Eli-jw8mx

26 күн бұрын

@@dantevicthe patch made the game terrible for the rest of the roles. I 100% agree that DVA needs a nerf as well.

@Real_MisterSir

26 күн бұрын

Fr this is like someone shitting on your floor, and then you congratulate them on cleaning up some of it (not all of it tho).

flats makes a video without saying "cooking": impossible

@Jartran72

26 күн бұрын

It is the current funny meme. You are going to see it everywhere.

@jeffe2267

26 күн бұрын

@@Jartran72 "current" lmao

@skarloeythomas5172

26 күн бұрын

Good luck getting Twitch/TikTok realm interneters to grow a vocabulary.

@oijoseph3887

26 күн бұрын

​@@Jartran72 it's annoying

@arbre_mystique

25 күн бұрын

@@Jartran72you think cooking is current 💀 get off KZread shorts bro

So they see Mauga ripping tanks to shreds and never dying and say “yeah that’s fine” but those god damn Lucio players were having to much fun

@truckmuncher8998

26 күн бұрын

Mauga is literally useless against sigma and dva because his overdrive is so short now the whole duration can be blocked by so many things lol

@Blacky_ljb1

26 күн бұрын

​@@truckmuncher8998 until DVA gets nerfed then it's back to mauga meta. Wooow 🎉🎉

@FrogTheGodHD

26 күн бұрын

@@truckmuncher8998 but if you want to play any other tank the enemy tank will swap Mauga 80% of the time

@archiesutherland6127

26 күн бұрын

​@@Blacky_ljb1,mauga isn't and won't be meta even if dva is nerfed. Sigma beats him as well and even rein

@dashieldmasta177

26 күн бұрын

Yeah it’s almost like Mauga is exponentially easier for other tanks to deal with due to shortened Cardiac duration or something

hanzo mains finally getting a small break with this pharah nerf

@xerxesmod2224

26 күн бұрын

Just the tiniest of breaks

@RRRRRRRRR33

26 күн бұрын

Spamming arrows the size of bricks until they hit a phantom headshot on the Phara or Widow, classic

@Real_MisterSir

26 күн бұрын

@@RRRRRRRRR33 the classic arrow toe-hit critical. My nemesis

@waterrr6332

26 күн бұрын

If Hanzo hit a headshot on a Pharah he should be rewarded with a kill even if he spammed it because that's the Pharah's fault for running into it.

The devs need to just completely overhaul mauga almost, adjust the power in his guns and rework cardiac, his rush is fine

@sebastianrodriguez8992

26 күн бұрын

I think the rest of his kit is fine but there's physically no number tweaks they could do to get cardiac to be perfect as is it's gotta change if they wanna do anything notable with it if not it's always just gonna be either broken or trash

@albinofroggy

26 күн бұрын

Fundamentally, an ability that instantly gives you and your entire team a percentage damage reduction AND lifesteal at the press of a normal cooldown is unbalancable. It will either not do enough to be significant or it will be too strong. There is no sweet spot.

"It's been three days" hits like the beginning of a zombie movie

As a dedicated dva main they really need to nerf her matrix back to what it was. The armor change was a lot. it just makes me feel like an asshole for playing her 😭😭 I mean the rest of the changes she got were okay I think, but the extra extra tankiness was too much

the ram change says it’s for nemesis form…. not staff mode

@Fry_

26 күн бұрын

his health in his normal form went down to 475 I just played a game with him

@BananaWasTaken

26 күн бұрын

Good spot. Flats probably just saw ‘base health/armour” and assumed it was referring to his default form.

@spacejesus6581

26 күн бұрын

@@Fry_that’s still not in the patch notes, the patch notes specifically say NEMESIS form health and armor reduced

@Tiosedan

26 күн бұрын

@@spacejesus6581Do you get health with nemesis or is it just armour?

@demifolk8940

26 күн бұрын

@@Tiosedanyou only get armor from nem form, 300, it said so last patch notes

Blizzard "cooking" is when they F everything up and do some tiny fixes to some of those F ups.

I’m really surprised they didn’t nerf Dva. The armor change paired with the buff to matrix literally makes her unkillable if you don’t have the right dps on your team

Imagine if lucio boop had more knockback than quick melee

@bigfudge2031

26 күн бұрын

Give Lucio the Zen passive.

@Helibenone

26 күн бұрын

@@bigfudge2031 zen almost has same knockback as lucio now

5:00 As SOON as I heard him say froggy was going to be mad I knew there was a Lucio Boop Nerf. RIP.

Have they not see the clip of Boosted Bsstion with Window Vs Mauga?! 😭😭😭

@truckmuncher8998

26 күн бұрын

Mauga can be blocked by so many people he almost never actually gets to use overdrive effectively sigma and dva essentially ban him He’s very bad currently lmao stop feeding into the same bs being parroted by everyone

@kio2960

26 күн бұрын

@@truckmuncher8998 nah get outta here with that BS. Just cause two tanks counter him doesn't mean you have to swap. The fact that he's able to survive other characters and strong ults and abilities is stupid. Stop defending counter swap.

@Theguyoverthere603

26 күн бұрын

His uptime was reduced by almost half. Hiding or disengaging when he Cardiacs turns him into a sitting duck for 12 whole seconds. He’s been so nerfed.

@sebastianrodriguez8992

26 күн бұрын

​@@kio2960The point is that he didn't really die when cardiac was up before he wasn't gonna now it's his only real tanking ability Your not supposed to face him head on when he has cardiac up you avoid him and once it's down then you pump damage but it's like people forgot this when the patch came out and now they're all tryna face tank him

@johnathantaylor4862

26 күн бұрын

Not supposed to face him head on!? He runs into the middle of my team with unstoppable speed then puts 2 miniguns up my tanks ass and we’re just pose to ignore that? wtf I can’t disengage if I wanted to stfu

As a support main, the past 3 days have been shit to say the least. I haven't won a single game till today.

Hanzo can now one shot Pharah!!!!

@nohitscanplz

25 күн бұрын

like any hanzo will ever land a headshot on a pharah

@davidcherres2294

16 күн бұрын

@@nohitscanplzA good one will, especially mid ult

The Illari nerf is kinda bad, cause it doesn't fix the problem of a well-placed pylon basically being free value with no counterplay and 100% uptime All it's really gonna do is hurt the low elo players who place that shit on the middle of the ground in front of the enemy team

@CannedAnxiety

26 күн бұрын

NO COUNTERPLAY say youre bad

@shiningrayquaza8095

26 күн бұрын

It is annoying but you gotta have high damage against illari

@opfreak

26 күн бұрын

Flank and destroy it goofball. Its so easy to counter.

@FatMCSteve

26 күн бұрын

@@CannedAnxietyWhat's the counterplay?

@thewalnutbucket

26 күн бұрын

Imagine creating a hero that gets better with more skill. Crazy thought

what they needed to was revert all the changes except the change to tanks not getting hit as hard by the DPS passive and the armor change

They didn't change rein, thank the lord. Finally playing tonight with these changes, ITS HAMMER TIME

Blizzard: Let's give dps a passive that reduces healing by 20% and not fix it. *Tanks are OP* Blizzard immediately after: Let's fix the tanks that aren't Mauga and throw in a random Lucio nerf.

Mauga would be really scary if his E was on a meter like D.Va's right click.

U tellin me they fucking nerfed Ram just because he can TANK shots when he’s BLOCKING and CAN BARELY MOVE and CANNOT FIGHT but they DIDNT NERF FUCKING MAUGA OR HOG??? I’m gonna kms

@The-hamster2471

26 күн бұрын

The mauga buff was more of a power shift and it’s made him easier to play around. The Ram nerf was needed because he couldn’t be killed.

@arielcastillo3513

26 күн бұрын

If u wanna go ez counter dva DM. If you want to outplay Mauga go sigma. Done.

@beckyg5952

26 күн бұрын

Stop complaining about mauga and just play better lol

@awesome-dp1oo

26 күн бұрын

We all know how to counter play, but 100% leeching is insane for a character with Mauga's damage output. This is absolutely unhealthy for the game and will likely have consequences in the future. Mauga needs to be reworked.

@The-hamster2471

26 күн бұрын

@@awesome-dp1oo even without his leeching abilities. A tank specialising on holding two buttons down on the biggest hit box to stay alive is terrible design. Especially for overwatch.

It's almost like it's being "balanced" by people who don't play the game and have any instinctual feel for what should and shouldn't be done

You actually cracked me up on the "ha HAA" "blublubLUBLuBLuBlUBLuB" 8:25

Thank you, have a good weekend as well flats

This video tells me flats never plays lucio. This basically puts it back to the pre patch boop on tanks which means literally no boop at all. So frustrating to perfectly execute a speed into a boop on a tank that’s wildly out of position and should be boop-able only to have them float like 3ft. So scummy

@epsilon1876

26 күн бұрын

And yet Flat's ignored Pharah's boop getting buffed, is it okay for her to boop tanks but not Lucio??

@deoxxys

26 күн бұрын

All I care about is that extra lockout time. I'm not really trying to displace tanks. What used to piss me off is when a soldier (or any character without movement abilities) could use the air control to get back to land after being booped off a cliff.

@user-uv6qu3wb5d

25 күн бұрын

​@@epsilon1876i mean one is a right click, while the other is an ability on a ten second cooldown

@epsilon1876

25 күн бұрын

@@user-uv6qu3wb5d the right click also has a cooldown

@FlipsMG

25 күн бұрын

Tank passive reducing boops was lowered in the patch before this hotfix, which meant Lucio boop was STRONGER and they brought it back to where it was.

Rammatra getting hit before Mauga is kinda crazy. They shouldn’t even be trying to salvage this 😂, just start working on 6V6 guys. *Edit: I don’t think Mauga is the biggest threat out of all the tanks right now. I’m simply just worried for when Mauga’s current counters get nerfed to see where he ends up. Also Rammatra needed a nerf, it’s just that nobody was complaining about him, or at least not many people, yet so I found it surprising he was touched and not Mauga.*

@GunieaPig

26 күн бұрын

Fuck 6v6

@Cressian

26 күн бұрын

well still they gotta keep the masses busy for a few months while they do that

@leedunkin3338

26 күн бұрын

Play tank then, my 6v6 guy. 😂

@truckmuncher8998

26 күн бұрын

Mauga is dogshit rn sigma and dva can block the whole duration of cardiac overdrive which basically bans him lmao

@nihili4196

26 күн бұрын

​@@leedunkin3338 I would gladly play tank if 6v6 was a thing. Now I only play tank when I hate myself more than usual

That timer to get to 10 minutes did fantastic.

Flats your dm impersonation is on point

Oh, wait till Frogger and Eskay find out about this 😭 Blizzard really went: Huh, the players are saying Mauga is too OP… it’s that damn frogs fault, again. LIKE HELLO?!? Edit: the reply’s are so funny man, I’m talking about how funny it is that they have nerfed Lucio when he wasn’t ever mentioned before this fix patch. No one was out here saying: K hope they nerf Lució! I ain’t even gonna bother with you all, couldn’t be me. Stay safe tho!

@nailinthefashion

26 күн бұрын

Can't wait to see her video of boop testing and hopefully it's Mei again

@beckyg5952

26 күн бұрын

The players are stupid and they shouldn't listen to them. Mauga got nerfed

@Gabriel-nv3ib

26 күн бұрын

Man mauga is a free fight and push😂 I really don't understand why people are saying he is op

@Fuphu

25 күн бұрын

Mauga is ez to kill now since his DR doesnt last long and its much more counterable now, pretty much every tank aside from ball can counter his insane E and even then he can just go behind a corner if he’s fast enough

@Megggazap

25 күн бұрын

you follow the crowd too easily. I knew from the start mauga was nerfed. dva, ram, queen, and zarya are/were the most concerning tank buffs out of all of them

A hotfix patch notes on my birthday is blizzards gift to me

@rudyrocks0187

26 күн бұрын

Happy birthday!

@davidcenturion961

26 күн бұрын

Happy birthday

@Introverted-gq9od

26 күн бұрын

@@rudyrocks0187 thank you

@Introverted-gq9od

26 күн бұрын

@@davidcenturion961 thank you

@RaijinRain

26 күн бұрын

Happy birthday

Flats, I don’t play overwatch that much anymore, but I still keep coming back to your channel for updates. Your way of explaining things is really amazing and I always find you entertaining. ❤❤

Yesterday I was casually dropping 30+ elem games with less than 10 death on ramatra, this is coming from a bronze player who is used to dieing 17 time a game minimum. But the crazy thing is that it wasn't just yesterday I've kept it up. I don't know what this means for the future but I'm hopeing to climb the ranks with ramatra.

Boop specifically just needs to do less boop on tanks now, so there's ANOTHER passive for boop to do less on tanks, YIPPEE, MORE PASSIVES.

Damm 40 views in 40 second good on you flats

this shit is never ending

The Mauga rant at the end was so understandable, almost like my soul was resonating with that rant.

As someone who played Heroes of The Storm (HoTS), this all feels familiar

@morevrai

26 күн бұрын

wait wdym🧍

@AYAKXSHI

26 күн бұрын

@@morevrai aka the game won’t survive long

@Aentismik

26 күн бұрын

OW2 is a trainwreck. That's what they mean. HoTS died, and so will OW2 unless they make more drastic changes like 6v6. They also need to FULLY replace the people making balance changes. Making changes purely based on winrates is absolutely moronic. I bought so many lootboxes for me AND my friends because I loved OW1, but I have only bought 1 battlepass for OW2. I ain't goin' down with this ship.

@You_are_wrong99

26 күн бұрын

@@Aentismik remember when people said ow1 will die? that game somehow survived for 6 years as paid game with no update (beside balance and skin) in last 2 years since echo was released.

@Lee-fw5bd

26 күн бұрын

​@@Aentismikthen leave. Such a weird comment lol

Wtf. Ram nerf after 3 days? But we get mauga for months

@sebastianrodriguez8992

26 күн бұрын

I think the devs are trying to prevent it from being mauga meta like before and not let it drag on

@albinofroggy

26 күн бұрын

@@sebastianrodriguez8992If they were trying to avoid mauga meta then they've already failed. He's inarguably top 3 in the meta right now. It's a rock paper scissors between sigma, mauga, and dva and occasionally Zarya shows up to say "gun, I win."

That was quick

I don’t get why they’re so stern on changing health and dmg numbers. They can also change interactions between heroes, ammo capacity, area of effects, and so on. I’m not sure why they’re neglecting this

OH NO, SCARY MAUGA NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM

I am a frog on a piece of toast

@novieovieee

26 күн бұрын

so true

@KrazzyKelsie

26 күн бұрын

True Dat!

@yournightmare6969

26 күн бұрын

You again

@navadax4541

26 күн бұрын

Insane

@connormac5800

26 күн бұрын

I’m gonna eat you

They really let Mauga get 100% lifesteal plus overheal and said "You know what. Ram a bit too tanky"

You know everything is on fire when developers issue a balancing hotfix within a literal week.

blizzard is so lost it’s funny

How does this affect lucioball gameplay?

@defaultdan7923

26 күн бұрын

the only important question here is

I just noticed i seen ur reaction face in the thumbnail in other videos

frogger is going to love the lucio change :)

The Zarya nerf isnt too significant. She was buffed from 2.0 to 2.5 and then nerfed down to 2.25 meaning she still ended up with a 12.5% buff.

@brown9671

26 күн бұрын

With a second longer cooldown

@Klingles

26 күн бұрын

@@brown9671 that's true. Good point there

Maybe put Lucio's damage back to 20 since he literally does 9 damage against armour now... That is literally 55% less damage.

@wolfura

25 күн бұрын

Literally.

@user-uv6qu3wb5d

25 күн бұрын

Nah man. That would be an extreme buff against squishies

@bigfudge2031

25 күн бұрын

@@user-uv6qu3wb5d Extreme is a strong word.

@TinaXrisCuBaNa

24 күн бұрын

@@user-uv6qu3wb5d20 DAMAGE IS TOO MUCH?

Bro they gotta put the Hotfix team to do the main patches and put the main team to do intern stuff

This immediate hotfix patch feels like the OW team accidentally let an intern post the changes and now they got to quickly undo everything

10% reduced knockback is not equal to a 10% soundwave nerf, thats not how numbers work....... 8M knockback - 50% = 4M knockback / 7.2 knockback - 40% = 4.32. Great, tanks move more, BUT you are booping DPS and Supports nearly a meter less. How is that ok? Why is Lucio paying the price for a passive change?

@spacejesus6581

26 күн бұрын

You’re right but you’re wrong, Overwatch calculates percentages with a set scale, so instead of reducing the existing number by 10% which is a massive nerf, they’re reducing 10% on the overall 0-100% scale they have for booping across the entire game

@dashieldmasta177

26 күн бұрын

Because his CC has been insane for two seasons straight and he’s capable of dueling every single non-mobility Damage pick in the game with it easily?

@dyamimc

26 күн бұрын

​@@dashieldmasta177then why aren't you climbing with Lucio?

@crane208

26 күн бұрын

​@@dashieldmasta177there are characters who have that same cc but Lucio pays the price. Lucio has movement, that's why he can dual like that if the wanted to nerf boob then nerf the cool down.

@dashieldmasta177

26 күн бұрын

@@dyamimc Not sure why that’s relative to the point, but that would be because I play Brig and Ana.

5:18 doesnt change a single minor even small things she still cant be shotted and contested actually, no hiscan can reliably shot her without dying (if ou say widow thats okay but she is ass atm with a lot of map and again its 1 dps only just a lil reminder that pharah actually has 65% winrate from diamond to gm its NOT a health problem its a we cant shot or kill her problem ( 65% for any competitive game is abysmally high )

@waterrr6332

26 күн бұрын

This nerf is significant because I can't count the amount of times I've shot at a Pharah and she survived with 1 bar of hp left. Also Hanzo can one shot which is good

@asgis2812

26 күн бұрын

@@waterrr6332 it wont change that much pharah will sill be absolutly busted and kill from across the map without ever commiting

Thank god I got the floor is lava achievement yesterday. Poor lucio catching strays for no reason.

I can't believe OverWatch got a patch BEFORE i got power to even play it

hmmm almost like tuesday's patch was not the end of the world and they are making quick adjustments like they said they would, weird

@defaultdan7923

26 күн бұрын

thank you for saying this, legitimately. i feel like too many people are just looking for any excuse to trash the dev team

@tomfehr

26 күн бұрын

​@@defaultdan7923 it's pretty out of control. i can understand some people that want 6v6 back but i don't understand how the community has gotten so intensely negative recently, as the game has been very fun to me lately

They’re just so lost man, if you’re gonna nerf the CD on Zarya’s bubbles why even buff their HP in the first place, what was achieved between these two patches other than making the ability less flexible for the Zarya player but more annoying for the enemies when you’re actually trying to break her bubbles. It just removes strategy from both teams.

@festiveastolfo735

26 күн бұрын

Least Obvious low rank player, Do you not know the meaning give and take? They nerf cooldown and buff hp, why would just nerf/buff hp/cooldown and not give anything in return. This patch made zarya very good whether your good or bad, so nerfing cooldowns adds more cooldown management. your complaining just to complain without even making a cohesive argument as to why its bad.

@--Glory--

26 күн бұрын

@@festiveastolfo735​​⁠​​⁠Except I literally made an argument as to how it effects the gameplay loop for both the Zarya player and the enemy players, but I guess you ignored that. If you’re not going to actually read what I’m saying you’re not worth arguing with. Also: you’re* you’re*

@aerostrafe1075

26 күн бұрын

@@festiveastolfo735 I will say not everything needs a give and take all the time. Thats how we got into the mess of balance for some heroes.

@festiveastolfo735

26 күн бұрын

@@--Glory-- And whats your argument? Your saying Why buff zarya in the first place if your just gonna nerf another aspect. Do you not see how stupid it sounds, Zarya has been underpreforming for Easily 3-4 seasons and In season 9 with the health changes zaryas Bubble never got touched in response which shouldve happened. And in season 2 they gave these zarya the Exact same changes and she was hard Meta. Your saying its inflexible and does nothing when these changes legit are what shouldve happened in season 9, Buff bubble hp and nerf cooldowns. What do you think zarya gets charge off? Her bubble and what happens if bubble is on a low cooldown? She gets more charge so Nerf cooldown = less charge. Instead of being Mr grammer police how about you give a decent LOGICAL argument as to WHY they are bad instead of saying a nonsensical point as to why its bad.

@festiveastolfo735

26 күн бұрын

@@aerostrafe1075 Yes, Give and take dosent work all the time but In this situations it does, Buff bubble = More and longer charge, so in response nerf cooldown = Less charge

so they looked at the patch and went "i know what doesnt need a nerf mauga!"

Frogger is in shambles rn

Still waiting to hear from the devs about the big ban/suspension rollouts they were planning to deal with xim adapter cheaters on console. Seems like it's been a lot of radio silence on that front, but supposedly it was going to be this season, right?

They didn't do enough for me to reinstall the game

@RRRRRRRRR33

26 күн бұрын

Not even close, this game is a mess

Lucio keeps catching strays

horror movie, MCs walking through woods, start seen.... heavy breathing "i think we lost... whatever that thing was...." tree branch crack " ... What was that!?"... Monster "HA HAAA" ... MC " RUNNN!"

nerfed 2 tanks* SLIGHTLY

@SuperLifestream

26 күн бұрын

Zarya was fine she didn't need this

@HelalAndre

26 күн бұрын

@@SuperLifestreamZarya was busted bro. I was winning every game with zarya

@darkshaman98

26 күн бұрын

Most of them are surprisingly fine despite how they feel, a lot of tanks have a 50-51% win rate so the games arguably the most balanced it's been in a while

@davidcenturion961

26 күн бұрын

​@@darkshaman9850!? Damn that was OW needed

@Skeletor1

26 күн бұрын

@@SuperLifestreambro what game were you playing😂

No mauga nerf?

@truckmuncher8998

26 күн бұрын

Sigma and dva make him unplayable they block the whole duration of his overdrive

I think it would be fun if they experimented with zarya where they try one patch where bubbling others provides more value less than personal, see how it plays out, then try the opposite mid season to see if one or either would be good for her

im still scared of hog ngl, maybe even moreso than mauga especially since zarya isnt gonna be able to keep them in check as well anymore

For us Lucio mains Where’s our compensation buff GUVE US BACK 20 DAMAGE Also ram trash in open queue now

@defaultdan7923

26 күн бұрын

it did confuse me that they didn’t buff lucio damage. if they’re going to nerf boop, may as well revert the change they did to his damage numbers too

Catch that nerf, Illari. Hell yea. I struggled to efficiently destroy that pylon, it was so hard.

@user-br1ec6ib8n

26 күн бұрын

How? Literally how lol. Even hiding it in the best spots doesn’t stop it from being an immobile healer. Just flank the enemy team lmao. As Illari you have to constantly move your pylon to behind your team because it’s an easy to spot easy to kill stationary healer.

@Ron742_

26 күн бұрын

@@user-br1ec6ib8n Well, it's hard to find and not always easy to see where the heals are coming from. Plus it has so much hp.

@kit_t1e

26 күн бұрын

@@Ron742_the healing projectiles travel in a straight line to the player it’s healing. just follow it..

The problem with ramattra is his 75% damage reduction on top of having buffed armor and a nerfed DPS passive. Change his reduction to 60% or 50%.

that was fast

Ramattra was perfect as he was and idk why they changed him they should have changed mauga because he’s overpowered and they should have left everything how it was before they changed it in this tank patch notes and just buffed his ammo count and that’s it and he would be balanced and the ammo count should be 350 and that’s it no more

@deathstroke2305

26 күн бұрын

Mauga is in no way overpowered. He's much worse now but people don't understand how to play against him because people in low Elo just sit in the middle of point and try to face tank everything instead of, you know, running for 3 secs

@truckmuncher8998

26 күн бұрын

Sigma and dva make him unplayable they block the whole duration of his overdrive

@xdgamer0189

26 күн бұрын

Run to where? Some maps have bad natural cover to hide behind sometimes​@@deathstroke2305

@thesesmokesonly

26 күн бұрын

@@deathstroke2305 now he is and but before they buff him this season patch notes for tanks he was decent to play but now they change his cardiac overdrive and made it kinda difficult to kill him

@thesesmokesonly

26 күн бұрын

@@truckmuncher8998 true and that’s y I liked about it when they buffed Dva and sigma this season for tanks

Well they gave up quick… Edit: No Mauga nerfs 🤨

@ashonline77

26 күн бұрын

gave up what? they said they'll hotfix outliers before the midseason patch was even released

@truckmuncher8998

26 күн бұрын

Sigma and dva make him dogshit they block the whole duration of his overdrive

@defaultdan7923

26 күн бұрын

what is with people thinking mauga is broken, are you people playing the game?

As a tank main this was def needed but I had my fun.

i can hear your os runescape in the background

No mauga changes? Bruh

@deadmaniac0472

26 күн бұрын

Mauga is fine though, if anything he's worse than before

@dashieldmasta177

26 күн бұрын

>gets hard nerfed >gets a little easier to play for average ELO >REEEEEE NERF SAMOAN NOW Please actually read patches

@crystalization6764

26 күн бұрын

stay in plat. mauga is trash currently

@DaffyTaffy93

26 күн бұрын

@@crystalization6764Mauga isn’t good at all heck go Dva makes Mauga literally a free kill sigma and heck now Zarya can deal with him

@Megggazap

25 күн бұрын

@@DaffyTaffy93lmao, I actually won like 5 games as zarya vs mauga yesterday, and I never felt more relieved to fight him

Tank feels good ngl😶‍🌫️

@leedunkin3338

26 күн бұрын

From this patch u mean. What tanks you been rolling tho? 🤔

@masoneckhardt8879

26 күн бұрын

@@leedunkin3338 well funny enough my main tanks are actually ram and zarya. So maybe my bias is skewed. my win rates on those two were around 70 but I completely agree that they needed to be nerfed…They were absolutely insane… But I found that sig dva Rein muaga and Winston are very playable too and overall I feel like counters swapping isn’t too bad. I think the tanks that are falling behind just very good in the meta right now Overall, I think this is really good patch at first I was definitely skeptical though

Community: Hey, Mauga and DVA are completely broken rn. Blizzard: Oh yeah we fix that for you. Blizzard nerfs Lucio boop. Community: !????

I used to love playing muaga but I cant play him anymore cuz of the guilt I have 😭

I'm not playing OW ever again. Glad to see that my decision to drop this game months ago, was a good decision. The only way I can watch OW gameplay is because I like Flats and his Reels/shorts are always welcome

@babeyy-nq9gs

26 күн бұрын

Who

Was I the only one who thought this patch was kinda fun?

@divine65

26 күн бұрын

yes

@defferwa

26 күн бұрын

No, I loved it

@meatmuncher23

26 күн бұрын

I had fun as well but blizzard ruined there game as always 💀

@greytestgrey3837

26 күн бұрын

Sadly fun doesnt equal balanced, thats why in games like fortnite casuals and pro are always fighting with eachother and all the fun gets nerfed so it gets balanced in the competitive scene

@christopherwilson5300

26 күн бұрын

Im sorry but having mauga ruin your games all the time isn't fun, how tf is that fun

I’m curious about what tomorrow’s hotfix will be like?

I would think for the passive they should do something like how warframe has theirs to bolster each characters kit and to possibly synergies with other people and other kits on the team

@nickolastenney5546

26 күн бұрын

Not no role specific passives

I'm sad mauga wasn't nerfed

@truckmuncher8998

26 күн бұрын

Sigma and dva make him unplayable they block the whole duration of his overdrive

@heresyslayer2734

21 күн бұрын

@@truckmuncher8998 me who plays queen

I was looking at win rates and this is the most balanced it's been in a while so I think it's safe to say that the devs are cooking despite complaints

10 steps backwards, 1 step forwards ❤ good job OW devs

I will not give the devs any credit for anything. They made this mess, they get to clean it up -and they aren't finished yet. Wrote this post on the Blizz forums: " I think it’s just a bandaid on a broken skull. The damage is already done, the devs have shown their hand with the original patch and said “this is the vision we believe in”. The correction hotfix has not come from a realization that their patch wasn’t the right direction. It has only come because of the immense backlash. Had there not been an uproar, they would not have patched it, ergo they don’t actually see the issue, they only see the resulting chaos caused by the issue. I have said this a thousand times. The devs only know how to treat symptoms, they have zero clue how to actually address the core issues that are causing the symptoms in the first place. This hotfix and their statement about it actually just makes me even more mad. They didn’t listen to the responses from the community, they only saw that the response was negative and reeled back a bit to appease the masses. Putting out the fire after you already let the building burn to the ground. Congratulations, you saved absolutely jack all. We are just left with the ashes of what we formerly used to call our home. Alternative way to address the root cause: 1. Revert to 6v6 and scale back health pools by 30-40% depending on hero. 2. Minimize CC effectiveness, and homogenize ability cooldowns more as compensation (no crazy 14+ second utility). 3. Keep main crowd control focus on tanks, and limit overlapping sustain abilities (such as not having fortify + javelin on one hero, or shield + grasp, etc). 4. Scale back damage overall, especially on DPS that have been power crept. 5. Rework all hard immo abilities (like Lamp, Suzu) to be damage% mitigation based, not damage denial based. 6. Rework hard anti-heal abilities (like Nade, Rampage) to be healing% mitigation based, not healing denial based. 7. Rework abilities that have unhealthy approaches to counterplay (like perma Invis, LW Grip, etc) to be more directly communicated and have methods to play around in a more intuitive and naturally flowing manner (aka they shouldn’t hard interrupt the natural flow of the game). 8. Rework old 2CP maps into Hybrid assault maps, get that rose tinted nostalgia rolling agian. 9. Make a guild system built into the game UI itself, where people and groups can form teams and rosters and arrange/search for scrims and coaching, so the path between [casual - invested - pro] has more nuance and isn’t a hard wall. 10. Remove all role passives, and make passives individual hero-based, not role based. And most importantly, actually act like you want this game to succeed and be the best it can be. "

@curtisnovotnik8341

26 күн бұрын

So you want to condemn every mistake they do and not celebrate anything good they have done/could do? Then why are you here? It seems like you dislike the game now and forever with that kind of statement. Might be better off playing a different game rather then adding toxicity mindset to the community.

@Real_MisterSir

25 күн бұрын

@@curtisnovotnik8341 YES I DO. I want to condemn every mistake that leads them away from what is healthy for the game. I gave them 2 years to figure out their shit and I'm done pulling punches. "professional game devs" my ass. Even bronze players know this patch was not it.

People dont think about Mauga's weaknesses being so large. Anti nade, sleep, defense matrix. Mauga is just really solid. Just annoying

@RaidenKunii

26 күн бұрын

Yeah but what happens when they have a Kiriko, Sombra, Bastion

@ragerasse7616

25 күн бұрын

​@@RaidenKuniiYou go Bastion and Dva and you use sleep dart and nade separately.

This is the first time after ramattra got his infinite ult time nerf that he got a second nerf after 9 seasons lmao

I’m getting whiplash 🥴

For context on how busted mauga is rn: I went sombra because my teammate was only hacking the tank for some mf reason before they swapped to reaper. Killed the mercy and ana, mauga ulted. It was a 1v5. I hacked and hit him with the rubix cube of doom, rein was swimging his hammer, reaper popped his ult killing the ashe and soldier, and our healers were trying to keep everyone up(lucio and lifeweaver). This mf was near death then popped his cardiac overdrive. I watched dumbfounded as he recovered most of his hp in just seconds then he lit us up. The mauga won a mf 1v5 and we lost the game last minute a few inches from the goal point. I was pissed when the mauga spammed ez in the chat. Edit: Damn, we got the big brains in the comments saying the exact crap I said I did in my comment. Truly a skill issue that overwatch made mauga a monster to the point he ate a hack, rubix cube of doom, a fucking reaper ult, and a rein beating him with a hammer while our healers did their best to keep the juice coming.

@sebastianrodriguez8992

26 күн бұрын

Y'all musta left your brains at home cuz how TF do you lose to current maiga bros cheeks 😂 He is so bad it's hilarious if he popped cardiac why TF didn't rein just shield off his healing then nuke him? He's so easy to shut down rn at that point mauga SHOULD'VE said ez if y'all really threw that hard that you ENTIRE TEAM couldn't kill him supports and all 😂

@legacytrails5902

26 күн бұрын

@@sebastianrodriguez8992 Lil bro calm down with the emojis before I get all up in them cheeks

@ragerasse7616

25 күн бұрын

That wasn't Mauga being busted, that was just a skill issue. A shield+hack would've killed him when he used overdrive.