You can check out Quinn's channel here: www.youtube.com/@QuinnTheGM/videos

@viggstable305

Жыл бұрын

rewatched this at .75 speed to try and grasp the true depth of Georges insanity ….or Genius ?

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

@@viggstable305 ...Both? Let's say both

@kathyobrien792

Жыл бұрын

Wyerweyty

*Elmo's voice* "Elmo declare for Queen Rhanyra, Elmo bring death to her enemies hahahaha!!!!"

@christinestreeter8566

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@davidlewis5312

Ай бұрын

Kermit stabbing Boros to death is a funny image

The Freys are my favourite House of the Riverlands, they are self made Lords that crawled their way to the top while everyone mocked them, but then Walder had to ruin everything

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

Walder finally bit off more than he could chew

@MiguelSanchezDelVillar

Жыл бұрын

@@fantasyhaven1 did he still had enough teeth to chew?

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

@@MiguelSanchezDelVillar Yes but they're probably made of wood

@ox8833

Жыл бұрын

Completely agree. My buddy’s give me so my shit

@kinnundo6434

Жыл бұрын

To be fair, what successful self-made dynasty *hasnt* committed the odd war crime here or there?

Bolton: The bloodline has been full of psychopathy for millennia but for some reason was never straight up ended Frey: Honestly it wasn't until Walder Frey that they became House Hate Sink

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

All it takes is one man to destroy a family legacy

@aguspuig6615

Ай бұрын

@@fantasyhaven1 Except with the Boltons ig

@davidlewis5312

Ай бұрын

​@@aguspuig6615 I am sure there was a troubling time when Dalton Bolton nearly damned them all by promoting charity and mercy.

The funniest part is that Everyone who hates House Frey for the Red Wedding all fall in love with Tywin Lannister and praise him as a great person even though he orchestrated it.

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

This will be the topic of a future video - dismantling the idea that Tywin is some sort of badass strongman who does the Harsh But Necessary Thing™

@yandespar3490

11 ай бұрын

People love themselves a good puppet master but no one loves puppets

@juliocesarmonterocruz2089

6 ай бұрын

​@@fantasyhaven1Can't wait for it!

@KnightwhotillrecentlysaidNI

3 ай бұрын

All he did is payed Freys to do that. Freys complied because their petty spite is big

@tylerchapman9234

3 ай бұрын

Tywin was a bad ass and the Freys were right to be mad at Robb.

15:19 Just one correction, Wyman Manderly did not break guest right, he made sure to give the Freys three horses as "guest gift" which means from that moment on the Freys were not protected by the guest right anymore.

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

Good catch - I actually mention the horse gifts in our Fate of the Freys video on Quinn's channel

@nunyabiznes33

Жыл бұрын

Weren't the Freys butchered outside White Harbor?

@joeschmo4646

10 ай бұрын

@@nunyabiznes33on the way back to winterfell

“Do you deny it?” Wyman Manderly bit a sausage in half. “I confess…” He wiped grease from his lips. “…I confess that I know little of this poor boy. How old was the lad?” “Nine.” “So young. Though mayhaps this was a blessing. Had he lived, he would have grown up to be a Frey.” Best quote involving a Frey 😅

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

Wyman has no chill

@Jess-yo9rt

10 ай бұрын

""""mayhaps"""😆

I like how people were mad at the Frey’s for building a bridge and charging people to use it. That bridge had to of helped trade and they did build it on their own.

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

Old nobility don't respect the grind

Nobody: Not a single soul: Walder Frey: HOSTER TULLY ALWAYS LOOKED DOWN ON ME!

The Targaryen's being compared to the fire nation is surprisingly very accurate 😂

It goes to show how bloody OLD this world when you're considered to be part of a 'young house' and the family is 600 years old!

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

600 is nothing when you think of the Starks (thousands of years old I think?)

@ashleightompkins3200

Жыл бұрын

@@fantasyhaven1 Exactly, G.R.R Martin you brilliant bastard.

@Noobie2k7

5 ай бұрын

I always find it a little offputting though when there are these fictional medievil worlds that somehow have thousands of years of history without seeming to have progressed at all technologically. In the real world the 'medieval' period was only a couple hundreds years give or take before we had cannons and basic firearms. How has Westeros existed without any kinds of advancements at all for thousands of years, fantasy or no.

@justarandomcommenter570

4 ай бұрын

@@Noobie2k7 _"worlds that somehow have thousands of years of history without seeming to have progressed at all technologically.."_ *laughs in Neolithic period* *laughs in Bronze age* *laughs in Iron Age* *laughs in Roman Empire* *laughs in Ancient China* All periods of history where people lived pretty much the same way for thousands of years with only a few changes on a technological level. And thats without magic, sorcery, spells, White Walkers and firebreathing dragons that complicate things :P Remember, the way we envision progress nowadays is a very industrial-era way of thinking. Ofc people wanted to improve their societies back then but the idea of "progress" as we know it was a very slow trickle of improvements over time not broad sweeping changes. Also, theres plenty of reasons why progress could be slowed. Wars, political turmoil, disease, famine, invasions, natural disasters etc. Im also sure that the ASOIAF world did see progress during the time of the Valyrian Freehold but after their collapse things regressed. And we havent even discussed how technological progress could be further hampered by stuff like magic and dragons....

@tater8251

3 ай бұрын

@@justarandomcommenter570 To give some reference, House Stark alone has been in charge of the north for eight thousand years(Note, not in existence, just being the rulers of the north), that is as long as the Neolithic period and bronze age *combined*. I think its more just GRRM either feeding into abit of the fantasy aspect of the world, since most fantasy worlds have crazy times, or just not fully realizing quite how long thousands of years are lol

I really enjoyed this History lesson! It's wild to think that pre-Walder the Freys were actually solid

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

It'll be fun to see how HOTD presents Forrest Frey

@jsky2695

Жыл бұрын

Walder Frey took the moniker of jump start to heart.

@EyePatchGuy88

3 ай бұрын

Everyone seethed at House Frey demanding tolls for passage would've done the same if they had the foresight to build a bridge fortress first. It was a shame that Walder eas the one to have the same lust as Bobby B, spreading his foul seed all over the place. At least the daughters seem to have a good streak.

14:20 “It remains unclear if they will hold a grudge for this in the long run.” I mean, just look at how forgiving they are with Robb Stark marrying Jeyne Westerling.

for every 7 Highborn lords, 8 of them are Frey.

A young Walder Frey appears in the Tales of Dunk and Egg.

@carastone3473

Жыл бұрын

Oh! Cool! That'll be interesting!

@tylerchapman9234

3 ай бұрын

Yeah he was 6 and an asshole

Only thing the Freys ever did wrong was not supporting Maegor SMH

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

They could've finally been Lords Paramount of the Trident smh

@carastone3473

Жыл бұрын

The Starks beg to differ.

@afrizalrinaldo8896

Жыл бұрын

Well building that damn bridge is the right thing

@a.a677

Жыл бұрын

based

@ezananigussie3311

Жыл бұрын

@@afrizalrinaldo8896 literally the only reason they’re relevant

4 year old Walder Frey needed a clout in the ear.

Walder Frey could have become lord of the crossing before the reign of Jaehaerys II since it is far from certain every king has visited the Twins in their reign. He could have inherited as early as the reign of Aerys I for all we know.

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

I agree - Quinn is assuming that every King must have visited him

LMAO!! "After Rob Stark remembers he's a teenage boy and sleeps with Jane Westerly, he marries her to preserve her honor." OP. You are awesome at making videos!!

This was so clever and well done and really helps me with my reread! I'm starting ASoS so it's good to get such a good breakdown of the Freys. Also this is random, but you finally FINALLY reminded me of what the Freys remind me of - old fairytales about bridge trolls. Like, Three Billy Goats Gruff type stuff, lol

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

Oh, nice catch!

Actually, Wyman didn't break guest right, because he gave them a guest gift. Which means the Freys were no longer guests. That's if he even baked them into pies, it's actually a good chance that the Brotherhood Without Banners got them, if you ask me.

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

I actually mention the Guest Right loophole in my collab video with Quinn - he gives them a palfrey each

@ccorvid

5 ай бұрын

don't they even say that the palfrey's were ""found"" but not the riders? I could be misremembering that, bc that's 5x more sus, if true

@dennisyoungblood7752

5 ай бұрын

@@ccorvid yeah, I believe you are correct

“Winter WILL come for House Frey!” …well, it would if the series is ever finished…which it won’t 😢

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

I still believe...

@obsidian00

Жыл бұрын

@@fantasyhaven1 …and that’s why I follow you!

I fully expect the Manderly forces to turn on the Freys and team up with Stannis to massacre them.

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

Oh absolutely

I really really wanted a frey's history video. This is great ❤

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

❤️

I should be writing a 10-page history essay right now. Instead I'm binge-watching a fun new ASOIAF channel. I wonder if my professor would accept an essay about the fantastical history of a certain house Frey... I mean, the whole story of asoiaf is essentially the war of roses, so it's basically history, right?? Jokes aside, great video and interesting topic. So many asoiaf channels focus on the histories of Targaryens and Starks (which are also fun ofc!) so it's refreshing to hear about other houses too, especially a house that doesn't get much love from the fandom.

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

Just put my channel in your footnotes, you'll get full marks I promise 😂 As a historian myself, I definitely wanna do some videos comparing asoiaf to real history at some point. And lots of people have been asking for me to cover minor Houses too! Too many ideas... 🤔

@essuuuu4538

Жыл бұрын

@@fantasyhaven1 a fellow history enthusiast, ooh wee! Both of those ideas sound fun. A thought: I like how in the "where -was Gondor when Westfold fell- were the Velaryons/Hightowers during X" videos you approached the family history through a certain event. That could work for other houses too: take a few houses and tell their POVs of the different historical events in Westeros. And maybe even sprinkle some Real World Hard History Facts in there as well, somehow. Whatever you do, please keep those silly characters/drawings/things😄

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

Yep the animations are here to stay!

"They're one of the youngest noble houses." The green Fossoways: "Am I a joke to you?"

I love the animations. Especially the end when the guest’s cartoon keeps blocking fantasy😂

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

Haha thanks, glad you enjoy them

Manderly never broke Guest Right. He gave them the Guest Gifts on the Freys departure which cleared the Manderly's of breaking Guest Right. I do wish the books would dive a bit more into that "loophole", for lack of a better word for it.

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

I actually mention this in the Fate of the Freys video on Quinn's channel

Your breakdowns are great, you have a great sense of humor and an alt shift x level of edit going on and its really workin for me!

Ah finally a new video from my favourite sightly loreman!

Love them or hate them, they undeniably have one of the cooler castles in Westeros, together with the Hightowers. Like, who else lives in a fookin bridge (aside from modern hobos)?!

I came here from Quinn's vid.

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

Welcome aboard!

2 of my favorite GOT youtubers collaborating! A surprise to be sure but a welcome one!

New sub here! I love not only how you break things down so easily (because ASOIAF) has just soooo much info and your humor is badass I love it!!! Super excited to hear more videos on the westeros world!

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Very much enjoyed this, glad you guys collaborated so could find fantasy haven

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

And I'm glad you enjoyed our videos

Can you make videos about the histories of different houses? Namely lesser known houses too? This video was pretty great!

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

Yes I would love to

@thelastunicorn6663

Жыл бұрын

Just found your channel but a house mormont would be dope

The ASOIAF community crossovers are getting juicier!!🤌🏾🤌🏾

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed!

New subscriber! I enjoy what I'm seeing so far :) I will definitely watch more of your ASOIAF videos. Thank you for the content & good luck on your channel

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the support!

What does a Frey know of honor?

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

*nothing*

@Qbgarden

Жыл бұрын

About as much as the Dornish know of the North

Love your sense of humor homie. Keep on making these kickass videos!

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! There's loads more to come

“Unlike his descendant Walder he’s not a complete bitch.” So funny😆😆😆😆 and so true

Fantastic video! You two work well together

I can't wait to root for House Frey in the Storming of Stone Hedge and the Fish Feed!! Also I really hope they actually depict the Frey's influence on the war and that Forrest Frey is a named character who actually gets his proper send off.

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

Fuck it. Henry Cavill as Forrest Frey.

@jimwell5608

Жыл бұрын

Yeah.. wish HOTD would feature Forrest Frey in the next season so to kinda redeem the House's reputation especially to TV viewers. That not every Frey is as bad as Walder.

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

I'll be disappointed if they make Forrest a generic weaselly Frey

9:20 I think he wasn't counting Robb. Most likely, it was Aegon V, Aerys II and Robert I.

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

Probably. Although maybe he didn't host ALL of the Kings - in which case the earliest possible King Walder Frey could have become Lord under was Aerys I, when he was a child

House The Freys of the Crossing Motto: Screw you pay me

@attiepollard7847

Ай бұрын

And "we stand together" lol

@judeconnor-macintyre9874

27 күн бұрын

@@attiepollard7847 The one good thing D&D came up with (if they did.)

Love the combo with you guys. Subscribing to both

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the sub!

Cool video dude, I like the animations you put throught the video Would you be interested in talking about Euron or the Bolt-On tinfoil next? It'd be pretty interesting to see a Cthulhu-like Euron or an Other/Vampire-y Roose in your style. I just really like those two concepts being talked about in particular I guess lol Thanks for the entertaining content!

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! And yeah, I'm planning on organising a new schedule that involves talking about a House, a Theory, and something related to HOTD every month. I talked a little bit about Euron on my Hightower video

The map of westeros ( well the south ,) is Ireland upside down , and my city Cork is roughly where " the twins" is , The city emblem is 2 towers with a water gate between them ( and a ship but ) Not a million miles from the Frey emblem though ..

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

Damn that's awesome

@sou713

Жыл бұрын

You mean the North?

@bruh7862

Жыл бұрын

@@sou713 No he means the south. Casterly Rock and Lannisport correspond with Dublin, Oldtown is roughly around the Belfast area, the Vale is the Munster area and the Stormlands are Connaught. It's the Vale and the Stormlands which are the most obvious to me. The North is modelled extremely roughly off of Great Britain with Bear Island being the Isle of Mann while the Neck has the rough shape of Cornwall and the south coast, the Wall and the Night's Watch match up with Hadrian's Wall on the English-Scottish border.

Manderley didn't break guest right he gave them horses and sent them on ahead if i'm not mistaken. What ever happened on the road wouldn't count.

@fantasyhaven1

3 ай бұрын

Yeah you're right

Currently I think the Frey’s currently also might have succession issues given how many heirs Walder has. When Walder dies expect some of those branches to start killing each other. Why? Stevron’s line might go kaput.

Willing to bet the Freys smell less of "new money" and more of old socks.

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

Lmao

I love your style of videos! It makes something as complicated as the books easily understandable for someone as slow as me. Much appreciated, I noticed that you uploaded your first video only 5 month's ago, do you have a email for business inquiries?

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yep, you can find my business email in my channel's About section

It's so wired that in the show we are supposed to believe that Arya was able to poison all the freys like did she also poison all the frey children? House frey cannot just end like that

@thatoneblackdude3333

Жыл бұрын

They won't in the books they will get the full wrath of the North once Jon becomes king of the North and Walder fray will get a proper end fed to ghost.

@TheFamilyMan862

Жыл бұрын

Add the fact the after Arya some how sets a massive banquet and kill all the Freys no one mention it’s

@thatoneblackdude3333

Жыл бұрын

@@TheFamilyMan862 let's also forgot how she somehow made it from all the way from Bravos to the riverlands and then somehow made it into the castle and killed 2 frays and later the whole house in a matter of days .

After seeing the thumbnail, I genuinely thought it was some blursed map of Mesopotamia

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

Lmao

The best House name is Manwoody.

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

The History of House Manwoody? 👀

“ that same puntable 4 yeah old became lord of the crossing” 😂😂😂😂

Wyman never breaks guest right he gives guest gifts.

Got you with the sub my friend 👍 Came over from Quinn's Channel and enjoyed you guys working on stuff together

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

Glad to have you

Respect to Quinn the GM for coming to a younger channel and showing love.

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, he's been amazing

Quite literally they are bridge trolls

Provide a valuable service = Everyone gets mad for charging for its use.

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

The early Freys got their power and wealth through innovation, not blood

The problem is that they could have become so powerful, so respected, had they simply worked for it. The Freys kept asking for rewards and promises without doing anything first, arriving after the Trident had already been won and being annoyed you weren't rewarded, keep in mind they never fought in the rebellion either, then WOTFK where Walder refuses to answer the calls to arms, he threatens to hand Robb and Catelyn over to Tywin, demands two stark marriages, squires, fosterings and more marriages to other northerners all to let them cross the bridge and help own his liege lord. They got ever more arrogant over time, and started seeing themselves as untouchable and not dependant on actually fighting for their liege lord to win or showing their loyalty, as well as deserving of things that they did not have a right to nor were they particularly worthy of. The marriage to one of Walders sons of Genna is a example, they had no right to it and it was a stupid match that gave nothing to the lannisters and meant Genna had to stay in the Rock because her husband was to inherit nothing and was just sponging off of Walder. Then with Hoster Tully, while yes they aren't a bad match on paper, that does not mean that the Tullly's had to marry Edmure to them in order to continue ruling the riverlands nor that they were the only choice. And marrying Elmar to Arya is stupid, because while with Robb it makes sense in a very greedy yet somewhat beneficial for both sides way, Elmar is another son who will inherit nothing and therefore will have to sponge off of Walder or live in Winterfell dependant on Robb supporting his sister. At least with other marriages they often offer something to both, like Florents marrying to baratheon or Ned to Catelyn, but the Freys seem to just assume they deserve these marriages and not think of the benefits or even how the couple will be able to live. Not every family will let their married female member and her husband with nothing to his name stay rent free in their castle for the rest of their life.

Two legends in one video 🎉

I love House Frey's lore. But there is one point I just seriously think needs changing. Them being the youngest house of westeros despite having been founded 600 years ago and fought through so many internal conflicts. Now don't get me wrong. I am 100% in favor of them being TREATED like new nobility and glorified tax collectors. But not BEING it. Why? Well because 600 years is a lot of time and internal conflicts are usually when most nobiliary houses are founded. Generally speaking low nobles, burgeoisie and men at arms tend to wind up promoted to high nobility when a segment of that previous high nobility was on the loosing side of a war to decide the new liege. That's not to say every civil war ends in a purge. Many don't. And most of the loosers likely would still wind up ok either by peace treaty or simply turning coat before the fight gets tough. But there tends to be a reshufling of the more problematic or unfortunate houses for some more loyal blood. Taking into account the way the Targaryen took over. I'm fairly sure they would have wound up forming quite a few major houses in those 600 years. Certainly larger than mere lords like the Frey. Counts at the very least. BUT. "New nobility" was more about ideology than actual right. As a european that actually paid attention in history class and learned a bit of my own I can find multiple examples, but I dare say the most comparable to House Frey would be the Red Dukes, the family of Medina-Sidonia. So excuse my quick history class. The first duke of Medina Sidonia earned his title by military right, having led the war effort against part of the Serranía de Cádiz and been extremely successful, way more than the other pretenders to the title and way, way more than expected. Before him the house was fairly small, being only minor nobility. They were part of the "Segura", basque men at arms turned lower nobility by military right as part of the Castillian army during the reconquista. And in their case while they had earned their own name, they would keep these roots quite clear, labeling the castles made by the house with 1 or 2 segurs at the side of the gates. (The Segura were known by that name due to the use of the Segur, a particular type of hatchet, as a sort of "badge of office" for men at arms of the basque and inner aragonese regions. The nobiliary house comes from the Castillian-Conquered "Basque Country" as said men at arms would be a very significant part of the Castillian army. And known for their prowess.) This was already a bit of an issue. While being proud of military might was no problem for nobles at the time. Being proud of coming from lowborn men at arms that rose through the ranks through it, and proud enough to openly display it despite having been given a nobiliary title, was a very easy way to earn a place at the top of the old nobility's "shit" list. But that was far, FAR from the last slight, the house of Medina-Sidonia would EARN their place as the old nobility's most hated rivals through great effort. So much so that even this first duke had multiple assassination attempts done of him, one of which was traced back to the very king that had made him a duke. They REALLY pissed people off. You see. Once you became a duke you had the right to knight people into lower nobility. This would be used for politics hence why Spain would come to have a knightly class so bloated than the territory of asturias would erect the right to universal hidalguia and declare even the servants born there would be knighted at birth. This isn't an exageration or joke it was that problematic. But that rarely mattered because if there's one thing Spain wasn't lacking was conflict to throw these "lower nobles" at. Be it as conquistadors, crusaders, mercenaries, fighting on the many external wars, or just fighting on the many, many, MANY internal ones Spain went through... Seriously when Charles the 1st and Vth took the throne he fought 2 simultaneous civil wars and his reign is still considered relatively peaceful internally compared with the rest of the empire. Spain regularly set itself on fire back then. Point is. This right would still have... "faux pass" of sorts. Generally speaking, knighting men at arms from branches of old lineages that hadn't proved themselves yet was considered very good by the old nobility. Knighting cargadores (sea merchants) for their prowess as burgeoisie was a good way to earn enemies. Knighting ex-bandits turned "voluntarios" (irregular infantry) and members of the Santa Hermandad (a peasant's militia turned police force) was the easiest way to have the rest of the nobility literally try to get you killed. And now you know one of the reasons why the assassination attempts happened. But why? Why would they do this? Well, 2 reasons. First, they ideologically had a lot of enemies from the start. This will matter a lot more later. So they guessed knightly houses that were seen that badly would be more loyal to them, whereas knightly houses from ancient men at arm lineages had a high probability of wondering if taking on their lieges might make them dukes. The second reason is the serrania itself. The land they were given was extremely mountainous and having been war torn for a very long period of time as it was the border between christians and muslims, criminality back then was through the roof. And back then the best way to kill criminals was to hire criminals as voluntarios, plus spain had a lot of history of hiring bandits as light infantry. Even some "old houses" that hated Medina-Sidonia like the Golfines started that way. In a way high crime hard to scout areas like the serrania didn't fight crime as much as pick favourites. So that's what they did. On top of this while the Marquis of Cádiz, the house on top of Medina-Sidonia, was generally not that problematic, they were firmly burgeoisie-aligned liberals and mostly didn't get into issued because they were so hands off. Being a very urban house that for the most part didn't care what the dukes under them did so long as they didn't cause too much issues so they could focus on keeping trade with america going, and every once in a while funding tech advances pretty hard. So while the Marquis themselves didn't cause issues, being under them was already a stain on your legacy, being under them and even more problematic was political hell. But this is far from where our tale ends as then the war of succession comes. And here real life and GoT come together beautifully. While Medina-Sidonia weren't tax collectors for a river pass, they were so for a MOUNTAIN pass, and between their need for more policing and their extreme allegiance to the Misioneros who they funded, they were known for being particularly voracious collectors and corrupt to boot. Having the propaganda of the old nobility against them likely didn't help their image. But still the war of succession was roughly fought on medieval non-political terms with allegiance coming more out of power dynamics. Which explains why the Marquis took the side of the French, despite being liberals. While Medina-Sidonia fought for the side of the Austrians. Medina-Sidonia lost but much like Frey, not much came of it. However, when the Bourbons took charge the Marquis would come to lament having won that war. As back then france was far more centralized and totalitarian than Spain, and while the Bourbon candidate had promised to keep Spain's political system, he didn't get the throne and the one who did immediately went on to try to impose their political system, known in Spain as Ultra-Absolutism. Actively fighting both the Social-Catholics like Medina Sidonia and the Liberals like the Marquis. This is what kickstarts the period of far more political and intense internal struggles in Spain. And this pushed the social-catholics like medina sidona to being firmly liberal allied, specially since the Bourbons tried to ban the Jesuits and other missionary orgs. Which is why even nowadays many jesuit branches have gone so far left they even became the main drivers of many marxist movements. This is why the house of Medina-Sidonia came to be known as the Red Dukes. As they went full left wing, and even allied with the republicans, for which they would spend Franco's tenure in exile. Still, the current Duchess is to this day a fairly political figure and having recovered some of her wealth after the transition to democracy she's been funding some fairly important social programs. But my point for this very long rant is, even to this day the current Red Duchess is treated as "new nobility", as an upstart that shouldn't be counted amongst the REAL "grandes"... despite her house being centuries older than many of those criticizing them for it. And having earned that title for far more honorable ways. So I can totally see why the Frey would be TREATED that way. But I can't believe they genuinely ARE the youngest house in westeros. Way too much has happened in those 600 years for them to still be the latest to rise to that stature.

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

Genuinely fascinating to read, thanks for the history lesson

Many people hate Walder Frey. Personally, I'm impressed by his fecundity, his great age, and his wroth (Rob had it coming). Say what you will, but the man secured his genetic lineage like few before him.

@fantasyhaven1

3 ай бұрын

He's a scumbag, but he does care about his family

this channel is underated. funny and entertaining.

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

The crannogman are the french of westeros 😂

Your very good at lore videos! Respect

using mayhaps, talking about the Freys...genius!

If there words do turn out to be "Stand Together" then that is a delicious irony given Walders brood are the biggest bunch of scheming backstabbers south of the Dreadfort!

You realize that Greens are right the moment when Freys start to support Rhaenyra...

That video is both informative and hilarious🤣

Usually I dont subscribe to people before seeing a couple of videos that I like. It's been a long time since I smashed that subscribe button on the first video lol

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! That means a lot

Only 600 years? How utterly nouveau riche. They might put on airs and graces, but everybody knows their great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather was a common fisherman. All fur coats and no knickers, I tell you.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that that frey knew it was a long shot to marry into targaryen line but he was still gonna give it a shot

your graphic desain passion is hot

man I love your vids ♥️♥️♥️♥️

0:40 HE SAID MAYHAPS GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT

Lmao sir Elmo 😂

But everything changed when the fire 🔥 nation attacked. And by Fire Nation of course I mean Three ancestral dragons 🐉 riders. I spit out my orange 🍊 juice 🧃 trough my nose 👃 laughing 😆 so hard.

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

😅

Great video!

@fantasyhaven1

10 ай бұрын

Thanks!

This was pretty coool

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

Wasn't the Riverlands one independent kingdom only once? Seems it has been mostly petty kingdoms for most of its history. Did the Freys only came about during that time? There were no mentions of them being kings at some point in their history, unlike the Tullys and other houses like Brakens ane Blackwoods.

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

We don't know specifically when the Freys became Lords, just that it happened before the Hoares took over

Letsssss fuckin go

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

Hope you enjoyed our vids!

Walder irredeemably destroyed the Frey legacy.

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely

a nice surprise to see my version of daemon targaryen's arms on 6:50 map

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

Awesome work!

Hey bro, you guys were very entertaining. Ima check the other guy out

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

It's been a while since I read the Dunk and Egg stories, but I thought the Young Lord Walder was a baby (not 4 year old). I will have to recheck that.

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

You might be right 👀

@bradwolf07

Жыл бұрын

@@fantasyhaven1 either way, Young Walder was deeply unpleasant and someone should have spared the Seven Kingdoms from him

You're just upset that you don't have a bridge.

It's pretty much open season on the Freys now right

One of the few things Walder cared for was blood relations atleast in the books its why the Freys are also so dangerous they have so many connections to different families that should one succession go contested a Frey probably has a blood claim to it and for all his repulsiveness Walder made sure everyone of his blood has a role and place to lay their head. I doubt Lord Walder had he got what he was promised would've made a choice. Then again by that point the North wasn't looking too good and Walder could've just felt it best to hedge his bets like Tywin did.

Robb died like the oathbreaking dog he was.

Can you make this into the series where u do every nobal house and esos stuff Maybe put the amount of soldiers and wealth of each house

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I wanna go through all the houses eventually

maybe do a video on the History of House Bolton

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

I plan to do every single House eventually

The freys are very much the Cambells of westeros

The Freys are one of the youngest noble houses in westeros, they're only 600 years old Bruh thats more than 90% of European royal houses haha

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

The average House in Westeros is like 1000 years old, the Freys are children by comparison lmao

@kimok4716

Жыл бұрын

@@fantasyhaven1 Age of houses and castle dimensions are among the most over the top elements of this universe lol

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

Yeah GRRM does not have a brain for measurements

House Frey is just a bunch of bridge trolls

4:54 There are better options of course, but I think it's worth mentioning that it's specified that the Frey was a younger son. The same thing happened with Genna. It's specified that it's the second son. I think George does that for a reason. There's snobbery when it comes to the Freys, but I do think it's exaggerated. Walder Frey complains about the Hoster refusing to marry Edmure off to one of his girls, but Hoster did try to arrange a marriage between his brother and one of the Freys. He wasn't against the idea of it. Compare that to Littlefinger, who was tossed out of Riverrun for trying to get with a Tully.

Unpopular, I know, but I don’t care. The Frey’s are my favourite house. People forget, all those other houses have done terrible things too, but they seem to get a free pass, why, because those houses are popular with the mob.

How about a video about house arryn??? That could be fun too❤

@fantasyhaven1

Жыл бұрын

Don't worry, I'll be doing every House great and small