The Himmler Solution - Secret Peace Talks With Roosevelt & Churchill

Most people know that Himmler tried to negotiate with the Western Allies in the last weeks of the war in Europe, but few realise that he actually negotiated extensively with the British and Americans going all the way back to 1940 - his aim? Topple Hitler, make himself leader and end the war in the West. It has also been suspected that Himmler had links with the German resistance movement, links nobody talks about today. Find the full story here...
Dr. Mark Felton is a well-known British historian, the author of 22 non-fiction books, including bestsellers 'Zero Night' and 'Castle of the Eagles', both currently being developed into movies in Hollywood. In addition to writing, Mark also appears regularly in television documentaries around the world, including on The History Channel, Netflix, National Geographic, Quest, American Heroes Channel and RMC Decouverte. His books have formed the background to several TV and radio documentaries. More information about Mark can be found at: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Fe...
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Credits: Army Medical Services Museum, Surrey; Military Intelligence Museum, Chicksands, Bedfordshire; Imperial War Museum; US National Archives; Library of Congress; US Department of State; Bobak Ha'Eri; Fornax
Sources
- 'A Deal with the Nazi Dictatorship?: Himmler's Alleged Peace Emissaries in Autumn 1943', Richard Breitman, Journal of Contemporary History, Vol. 30, No.3, July 1995
- Himmler's Secret War: The Covert Peace Negotiations of Heinrich Himmler', Gene Mueller, The Journal of Military History, Vol. 70, No. 3, July 2006
- Foreign Relations of the United States: Diplomatic Papers, 1944, General, Volume 1: The Office of the Historian, US Department of State, Washington DC
- SS-1: The Unlikely Death of Heinrich Himmler, Hugh Thomas, (London: Fourth Estate, 2001)
- 'Reichsfuhrer-SS Himmler Pitches Washington: Dispatch from Wartime Sweden', John H. Waller, Central Intelligence Agency

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  • @jamesm3471
    @jamesm34712 ай бұрын

    There’s more research and factual history in a single Mark Felton upload than an entire season of television shows on the History Channel these days. For that I am grateful!

  • @emgriffiths9743

    @emgriffiths9743

    2 ай бұрын

    Hey those aliens may be at Oak Island

  • @DGB120

    @DGB120

    2 ай бұрын

    ALIENS

  • @pjbth

    @pjbth

    2 ай бұрын

    To be fair tv shows get called out for straight plagiarism 😂 feel free to google all the examples of him straight plagiarizing people

  • @luciaconn6788

    @luciaconn6788

    2 ай бұрын

    great diction too

  • @ragingpotato817

    @ragingpotato817

    2 ай бұрын

    The man has a Time Machine I’m convinced

  • @peelsherrif0995
    @peelsherrif09952 ай бұрын

    This goes on to show us that history is a far more complicated affair than most people usually think.

  • @salvadorvillegas3569

    @salvadorvillegas3569

    2 ай бұрын

    @peelsherrif0995 : ¡¡¡Lo que sucede es que la MAYORÍA DE LA GENTE se ha contentado con narrativas históricas para IDIOTAS!!!

  • @sbfcapnj

    @sbfcapnj

    2 ай бұрын

    I think it also might suggest that the Nazi chiefs probably played the end of the war in the worst possible way.

  • @kafon6368

    @kafon6368

    2 ай бұрын

    ...or _is_ it?

  • @Melchersson

    @Melchersson

    2 ай бұрын

    The Harriman, the Dulles, Henry Ford, and Prescott Bush were investing in Germany from the 1920s to 1941 and Henry Ford even continued to let the Germans build Ford Trucks on licence AFTER 1941. The attempt to install a Fascist dictatorship in 1934 was prevented by General Smedley Butler (Author to: War is a racket!) who pretended to go on with the coup attempt by the named US traitors until Roosevelt and General Butler ended it. But the criminals obviously got away? Few historians dare to bring these facts up!

  • @clavichord

    @clavichord

    2 ай бұрын

    @@kafon6368 Yes it is, because history is generally written by the victors. The Romans knew this.... and so do we.

  • @MrLuchenkov
    @MrLuchenkov2 ай бұрын

    Himmler being the one pushing for peace the most is a delicious irony of History.

  • @kosmokritikos9299

    @kosmokritikos9299

    2 ай бұрын

    Peace for whom? Certainly not for those in the internment camps. Nazis are Nazis are Nazis.

  • @Guido_XL

    @Guido_XL

    2 ай бұрын

    Why? Did it never occur to you before, that popularised historiography is prone to be riddled with semi-truths and deceptive stories that fulfil the purpose of cementing the victors' narrative? Feeling confused about nazi endeavour to maintain peace is rather indicative for the success of that narrative. Hitler himself always revealed the endeavour to prevent war, until it became futile. The popular version of this part of history likes to pretend that he only did so to conceal his alleged aggressiveness, but once this veil of distortion from Allied propaganda is lifted and the facts are actually considered, there is only one proper conclusion: Hitler did not want war, but, he wanted safety and prosperity for Germany, not being susceptible to aggression from outside anymore, as WWI had taught a bitter lesson about Germany's vulnerability. That endeavour could easily be distorted as an alleged aggressiveness, but that kind of twisting the facts is to be expected in the context of such a massive conflict that WWII constituted.

  • @user-bu4yb9ng7r

    @user-bu4yb9ng7r

    2 ай бұрын

    Not really considering that he literally sued for peace when the war was lost. Wouldn't surprise me if even Hitler himself secretly did the same

  • @rodrod959

    @rodrod959

    2 ай бұрын

    Also, Churchill pushing for war in lieu of peace negotiations. The more I learn about Churchill, the less I respect his legacy.

  • @balderedda2060

    @balderedda2060

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@rodrod959 He deserves NO respect. Same for Roosevelt and Eisenhower. Especially Eisenhower for he's "Unarmed military combatants" Warcrimes. Look up a book or video called Other Loses.

  • @johnubieta8857
    @johnubieta88572 ай бұрын

    No matter how you cut it, this video is an absolute bombshell. You realize that the "official" information we're given has never anything to do with what's happening behind closed doors.

  • @charlesmaximus9161

    @charlesmaximus9161

    2 ай бұрын

    Indeed. I wonder what else was hidden from us? Or even lied about in order to promote a certain political agenda? Hmmm…✡️✡️✡️

  • @rottkivanus

    @rottkivanus

    Ай бұрын

    Indeed, and now go and watch Europa: The last battle

  • @sinatra222

    @sinatra222

    Ай бұрын

    ​@rottkivanus I watched it. It's just pro-Nazi propaganda. Almost all of its claims are easily debunked.

  • @Fung43

    @Fung43

    Ай бұрын

    Wait til you find out the civil war was fought because Lincoln lied to the entire south about his intentions on slavery in order to win the election! Go look up his speeches about sending them all to Haiti and turning America pure white as soon as he was elected! And now think about how it was taught to you in school! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • @bigfish92672

    @bigfish92672

    Ай бұрын

    People paying attention know that Germany always wanted Armistice with The West, though

  • @jimpollard9392
    @jimpollard93922 ай бұрын

    Just so much murky shenanigans going on, weren't there. Multiple German factions trying to double-cross Hitler, multiple British factions urging Churchill to take the deal, and even Stalin playing footsie under the table with Germany. Wild stuff.

  • @tarikwildman

    @tarikwildman

    2 ай бұрын

    It´s just like Investment Banking at Bonus Time !!

  • @tancreddehauteville764

    @tancreddehauteville764

    2 ай бұрын

    Politics is a tart's game.

  • @philhawley1219

    @philhawley1219

    2 ай бұрын

    It's just like the WEF controling governments in the free world today. They are the new Nazis now.

  • @user-lh4sl5vx5e

    @user-lh4sl5vx5e

    2 ай бұрын

    Stalin was worse than Hitler let's get fair dinkum here!

  • @hanaluong2672

    @hanaluong2672

    2 ай бұрын

    Because country/faction has its self-interest first.

  • @stephenhall9251
    @stephenhall92512 ай бұрын

    Dr Felton’s apposite final comments regarding the ‘embarrassment’ the release of certain information on this topic could cause to the reputations of key allied participants, some in very senior positions, is key to this. Many of the records held by both the U.S. and British governments that could throw informed light on this will probably never be made public in my lifetime, if ever. As always, great work by Dr Felton.

  • @aristophanes5261

    @aristophanes5261

    2 ай бұрын

    The disturbing aspect is: Do you (or anyone else, think), that this kind of political behaviour changed in the last 80 years? I don't think so. Politics was, is and always will be the dirtiest component of human exchanges and the public may see 30% of whats going on. The rest happens "behind the curtain". Maybe in a 100 years our granchldren will listen to the same kind of stuff, but about the War in the Ukraine. Machiavelli is dead for nearly 500 years, but his statements about a successful ruler stand the test of time.

  • @joelewis1776

    @joelewis1776

    2 ай бұрын

    @@aristophanes5261I agree generally. I think there is undoubtedly more transparency now than there was during Machiavelli’s time, but obviously politics will always be some form of game in a democracy. In my opinion, the two party state is to blame for a lot of this and I believe that the office of president as it exists is totally misshapen. The founding fathers never intended for the executive to be so powerful, and the cult of personality surrounding the president is a toxin to American politics.

  • @dcspangler8025

    @dcspangler8025

    2 ай бұрын

    And the main focus to eliminate the paper trail by the allies as the war came to a close.

  • @gregorypalmer5403

    @gregorypalmer5403

    2 ай бұрын

    Is the Biden administration talented enough and taken seriously enough to engage in such machinations over the Middle East? Russia ? Red China ? I would be interested in people's thoughts on this.

  • @kamilpotato3764

    @kamilpotato3764

    2 ай бұрын

    @@dcspangler8025 Allies knew well enough about German atrocities happening to Jews, Poles, Roma and other people. Reports from Polish Home Army were sent from early days of WW2. They choose to ignore them.

  • @pauljenkins6877
    @pauljenkins68772 ай бұрын

    This puts an interesting perspective on Himmler’s “suicide” while in British custody immediately after the war, which Dr. Felton has already discussed in an excellent series of videos.

  • @BadgerOfTheSea

    @BadgerOfTheSea

    2 ай бұрын

    To put his suicide into air quotes is to stray into the realm of pointless conspiracy theory.

  • @salvadorvillegas3569

    @salvadorvillegas3569

    2 ай бұрын

    @@BadgerOfTheSea : Lo que pasa es que quieres aferrarte a las MENTIRAS con que te alimentaron desde pequeño ...

  • @ph0n1xz

    @ph0n1xz

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@salvadorvillegas3569aferrate a este más bien 😉

  • @helmortkuper2626

    @helmortkuper2626

    2 ай бұрын

    Oh no, how could people actually question things for themselves!!!!???​@@BadgerOfTheSea

  • @tarstarkusz

    @tarstarkusz

    2 ай бұрын

    @OfTheSea No, "conspiracy" fact. There were a ton of "conspiracies" during the 2nd world war and in the period after. Many of which are known and not in dispute. "Conspiracy theory" is just a slur word to hand waive away anything you cannot rebut. I have no idea if he was killed or did it himself, but to dismissively shout "conspiracy theory!!!!" is the height of stupidity!

  • @jonathancutmore8527
    @jonathancutmore85272 ай бұрын

    You throw light on Churchill’s conduct of the war; his actions and motives were more complicated than is generally understood.

  • @mattyallen3396

    @mattyallen3396

    2 ай бұрын

    Like sending troops into Greece ill prepared

  • @Smudgeroon74

    @Smudgeroon74

    2 ай бұрын

    Yeah to say the least...

  • @commisaryarreck3974

    @commisaryarreck3974

    2 ай бұрын

    Like being paid to advocate for war endlessly at any cost, burning his evil empire down out of spite Churchill like most leaders during the war was an absolute goddamn monster But what do you expect from the man who caused the most miserable campaign in WW1 and somehow didn't get executed for incredible incompetence but somehow failed upwards and was perpetually shitfaced drunk

  • @monaliza3334

    @monaliza3334

    2 ай бұрын

    On May 22, 1945, in Great Britain, on the initiative of Winston Churchill, a plan was developed to attack the Soviet army in Europe. In the military campaign against the USSR, the British were going to act in alliance with the Americans, Germans and Poles. There was also a defensive option - in case the Red Army advanced far to the West and Churchill would have to defend his own island. Both plans were part of the secret Operation Unthinkable. After the surrender of Nazi Germany, Churchill radically changed his position towards the USSR, considering from now on the communist regime in Moscow the main threat to the Western democratic world. According to the terms of the Yalta Conference, the Soviet Union still faced a war with Japan. London and Washington were extremely interested in military assistance from their ally in Asia, so Churchill saved hostile attacks against the USSR for later. Well his dream came true, his probably laughing in his grave. After the WW2 🇨🇦 took 37 000 UkrainianNaziSS, 🇬🇧 between 6000 - 10 000Naz, the rest went to South and North America, mostly Argentina.

  • @salvadorvillegas3569

    @salvadorvillegas3569

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@monaliza3334 : Si se rió antes de morir es porque era un fiel servidor al poder judeo-masónico ya que con su política de destruír el III Reich fue al mismo tiempo el sepulturero del imperio británico y les hizo el favor a los sionistas ... pero lo cierto es que murió OLVIDADO y solo la buena prensa de sus amigos judíos lo sostienen como un adalid histórico ....

  • @salvagedb2470
    @salvagedb24702 ай бұрын

    The Dulles brothers says it all , They had their fingers in a lot of Pies , Good one Dr Felton.

  • @johndough1703

    @johndough1703

    2 ай бұрын

    And open top limousines (dramatic Felton outdo music)

  • @archangelgabriel5316

    @archangelgabriel5316

    Ай бұрын

    @@johndough1703 100%

  • @RBAILEY57

    @RBAILEY57

    Ай бұрын

    John Foster and Alan Dulles were two of the founders of the Deep State.

  • @florete2310
    @florete23102 ай бұрын

    2:25 Wow - just WOW... As a German: This is completely new to me. I never heard of this Goerdeler-von-Moltke liaison before. This is truly fascinating. Remarkable piece (again), thanks Mr Felton👍

  • @Idahoguy10157

    @Idahoguy10157

    2 ай бұрын

    All correspondence was classified as high as possible. And stayed that way for decades. Hours after Himmler was caught by the British, he was dead. Imagine if Himmler testified or gave interviews!

  • @RBAILEY57

    @RBAILEY57

    Ай бұрын

    Von Moltke was a key figure in the July 20th plot on Hitler.

  • @krakrtreacysr907

    @krakrtreacysr907

    Ай бұрын

    Have you ever seen Europa the last battle???

  • @RBAILEY57

    @RBAILEY57

    Ай бұрын

    ​@krakrtreacysr907 Yes.

  • @krakrtreacysr907

    @krakrtreacysr907

    Ай бұрын

    @@RBAILEY57 what did u think, just curious??

  • @enkhbayardashjamts4923
    @enkhbayardashjamts49232 ай бұрын

    It clearly shows that millons of people life could be safed if not politicians ambitions, war could be stopped in 1939-1940

  • @djosbun
    @djosbun2 ай бұрын

    I wish Dr. Felton was my history teacher throughout high school. I absolutely HATED history class back then but LOVE it now.

  • @erictroxell715

    @erictroxell715

    2 ай бұрын

    I was so blessed to have an amazing history teacher in 10th grade. He was tough as nails. Only 2 of us (me and another girl in my class) out of 160+ students got an A from him all year. Mark would liked him I think. He was amazing,smart, and made us think. Rip Mr hatch, you were a wonderful person and teacher

  • @davidweum

    @davidweum

    Ай бұрын

    In university I was blessed to have a history teacher who as a boy lived on a farm in Germany. He emigrated to Canada at 15. His specialty was German history. I took his course on the 12 year history of NAZI Germany and WW2 mainly from the German perspective. He was a wonderful lecturer.

  • @temwananikaunda979
    @temwananikaunda9792 ай бұрын

    I have learnt more from mark about world war 2 history than my entire school life

  • @deniseroe5891

    @deniseroe5891

    2 ай бұрын

    We all have!

  • @bearcb
    @bearcb2 ай бұрын

    Most videos in this channel cover curious incidents of minor importance, but this one is at another level. It shows how politics works at the high echelons, even in wartime, and how fragile national and ideological allegiances are in face of circumstances and ambitions.

  • @davrelltien7416

    @davrelltien7416

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes, this is big. But all his work on the odds and ends has not lessened his overall grasp of historiography

  • @AllUpOns

    @AllUpOns

    2 ай бұрын

    Eh, I think it says more about the strength of the allegiance between the US and UK. Amid all this plotting there's not a single instance of betrayal between the two. If anything, they helped each other plot against the other powers.

  • @bearcb

    @bearcb

    2 ай бұрын

    @@AllUpOns there's a BBC documentary showing how the US dismantled the British empire, you should see it

  • @salvadorvillegas3569

    @salvadorvillegas3569

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@AllUpOns : ¡¡¡Estas equivocado!!!, también tienen sus traiciones pero como buena MAFIA pulposa que se respeta, poseen sus formas MUY SUTILES para deshacerse de ellos con oportunas declaraciones de locura, escándalos sexuales, "accidentes" médicos, de tránsito, aéreos o inesperados "suicidios" .... PARA TU CONOCIMIENTO : los masones y judeo-masones sean de la nación que sea son fraternos así sus países y gobiernos estén en guerra ... ESA ES LA BASE DE SU PODER ¡¡¡hoy llamado GLOBALISMO!!!

  • @VonL

    @VonL

    2 ай бұрын

    The influence of bankers can’t be overestimated as history shows in the subsequent activities of the Dulles Brothers

  • @christophercarlone9945
    @christophercarlone99452 ай бұрын

    I'm glad that people like you exist Mark. Dedication to the truth is important.

  • @witsend008
    @witsend0082 ай бұрын

    This shows that the financial interests that profit from war are usually stronger than the side trying to gain peace. This is why today we have never ending wars.

  • @notsureyou

    @notsureyou

    2 ай бұрын

    There is no business like......

  • @CommackMark

    @CommackMark

    2 ай бұрын

    But in this case powerful bankers and industrial leaders were in the peace camp. I suspect their long term fear was greater than the short term loss of war time profit.... the fear being huge Soviet/communist influence into western Europe which of course would not be a profitable capitalist development.

  • @BishopStars

    @BishopStars

    Ай бұрын

    Show business?

  • @tinypardus

    @tinypardus

    Ай бұрын

    the side trying to gain peace would've put the SS in charge, that is no good thing. The side of "peace" (surrendering Europe to SS Nazi tyranny) was the side of the greedy and wealthy who feared communism. Fighting was the only right solution when the enemy is so clearly evil. Usually I'd be pro-negotiation but NEVER with the Nazis should people think that we should've given up the fight

  • @jacktorrance9688

    @jacktorrance9688

    Ай бұрын

    So the financial interests are even stronger today? Or why does that explain why we have never ending wars today?

  • @user-se7es6uc8v
    @user-se7es6uc8v2 ай бұрын

    I feel there's much still that we don't know about WW2 and the behind the scenes machinations, but Doctor Felton may well be the chap to enlighten us.

  • @salvadorvillegas3569

    @salvadorvillegas3569

    2 ай бұрын

    @usuario-se7es6u8v : Lo más seguro es que lo que sabes sobre la WWII sea pura basura ...

  • @TeaParty1776

    @TeaParty1776

    28 күн бұрын

    > I feel there's much still that we don't know about WW2 The Allies won.

  • @kenw2225

    @kenw2225

    18 күн бұрын

    But the allies, include russia. And russia exterminated about 6 times as many people as Germany did. Allies seems like a negative label when you view it in that context

  • @TeaParty1776

    @TeaParty1776

    17 күн бұрын

    @@kenw2225 Thats an irrelevant context/

  • @Luddite-vd2ts
    @Luddite-vd2ts2 ай бұрын

    A fascinating insight that I had almost no idea of. Thank you. Your final comment regarding the unclear circumstances around Himmler's death are particularly enlightening. It would have been extremely embarrassing for the British, Americans, Swedes, Russians et al, if he'd spilled the beans in any subsequent trial. His potential assassination and subsequent attempts to cover it up all make a lot of sense in the light of this programme.

  • @M.RQ.Mittag910

    @M.RQ.Mittag910

    2 ай бұрын

    Just a tid bit convenient, ain't it my pedigree chum..??

  • @jaaackaissa1633

    @jaaackaissa1633

    2 ай бұрын

    It has always been seen that it is illogical for a commander of security services in Reich to wear the uniform of a German soldier and surrender himself to the allies, leaving behind a picture of his body to show no trace of an attempt to hide his identity. The story of him hiding as a simple soldier and then being arrested by the British by chance and committing suicide to destroy his honor is an illogical story. Most likely, he surrendered himself to the Allies, like Goering, and tried to negotiate with them, then they decided to kill him immediately so that he would not say a dangerous word.

  • @bdleo300

    @bdleo300

    11 күн бұрын

    @@jaaackaissa1633 yep. also, Heydrich was probably kiIIed by both Brits and Himmler in order not to expose their connection. In the end Brits kiIIed Himmler. Same as Mussolini, he was working for Brits in WW1, in 1917 he was paid 100punds per week (10.000 in today money) to spread pro-British propaganda in Italian newspapers. Not even a theory, but historical facts.

  • @othertalk3313
    @othertalk33132 ай бұрын

    That jump-scare around 7:02 scared the hell out of me, listening in the middle of the night... hahah

  • @cyberdreamsinteractive

    @cyberdreamsinteractive

    2 ай бұрын

    I was listening to this at my desk at work, and I nearly jumped out of my chair lol

  • @zaeltrus

    @zaeltrus

    2 ай бұрын

    Same 😂

  • @1972BoNeZ666

    @1972BoNeZ666

    7 күн бұрын

    😁 😂

  • @RG-tx6up
    @RG-tx6up2 ай бұрын

    Among the intrigue of the secret negotiations, especially through 1941, the British knew that an extended war would ruin them financially and force them to give up colonies in Asia & Africa, particularly India. The US didn't want to get into another European war and along with the British wanted the Nazis continue to fight the Soviets. Himmler wanted power and attempted peace that would leave him in charge of Germany. As Mark Felton states, there are lots of details we still don't know after 85 years, but the British & US governments need to release the information.

  • @user-cy5li2zp9z

    @user-cy5li2zp9z

    Ай бұрын

    Governments with secrets tend to do what they want.

  • @TeaParty1776

    @TeaParty1776

    28 күн бұрын

    > wanted the Nazis continue to fight the Soviets. Good. The two monsters would have militarily exhausted each other without US Lend-Lease to the Soviets.

  • @johnpage7735
    @johnpage77352 ай бұрын

    When I used to hear the theme music for the 1970s show The World At War, I used to run into the lounge. I knew my Dad would be watching it. I get that same old feeling when I hear your shows theme music. Absolutely love your channel mate.

  • @markmccormack1796
    @markmccormack17962 ай бұрын

    Churchill never, ever let peace get in the way of a war. War that would feed his hysteria about his place in history.

  • @michaelwaldmeier1601

    @michaelwaldmeier1601

    2 ай бұрын

    And in the end, Great Britain lost its Empire and its Socialists wrecked the economy.

  • @loetzcollector466
    @loetzcollector4662 ай бұрын

    When Churchill heard Lord Halifax passed away, he quipped: "Cremate him. Bury him. Take no chances." Apparently no love lost

  • @bdleo300

    @bdleo300

    11 күн бұрын

    ChurchiII was the among the worst criminaIs in both WW's (and between), we'll never even know the true extent of his scheming.

  • @esidedude2869
    @esidedude28692 ай бұрын

    Oh, what could have been. Millions of lives saved. Unbelievable. Never even heard of this before. Mr. Felton, you never cease to amaze me. Just when I think I've learned all there is to know about this period in history. My hat's off to you sir. Idk how you do it. I've never seen anyone else present this material. Class act as always. Thank you. ✌️

  • @hendriktonisson2915

    @hendriktonisson2915

    2 ай бұрын

    I wonder what would've happened if Georg Elser succeeded with his plan against A.H. the year before the war in 1938 after the Munich agreement? Perhaps no WW2 at all or a war where most of Europe fights against the Soviet Union.

  • @tglake2894

    @tglake2894

    2 ай бұрын

    I'm not convinced it would've saved all that many lives, honestly. I think it would have led to a much hotter Cold War, potentially Soviet occupation of the whole of Europe if it occurred after 1943 -- unless the western Allies decided to make an issue out of the Soviets going to Italy or France. That war would've been cataclysmic.

  • @MVProfits

    @MVProfits

    2 ай бұрын

    @@tglake2894 the Soviets did take half of Europe! They would have never been powerful enough to take on the western allies plus Germany. There are so many "what ifs" with WW2, crazy.

  • @tglake2894

    @tglake2894

    2 ай бұрын

    @MVProfits Well that's the thing, though, regarding saving millions of lives -- the western Allies fighting the USSR would've been devastating, considering the losses the US and UK took fighting the remnants of German divisions ruined on the Eastern Front

  • @kevinjohnston4923

    @kevinjohnston4923

    2 ай бұрын

    @@tglake2894USSR would have no choice but to surrender if all of Europe and the US were against it.

  • @herb4991
    @herb49912 ай бұрын

    Another information packed episode. Rather than dragging it out over many weeks and creating additional clickbait the way most KZreadrs would, we have a treatise that instead bears rewatching again and again. Great job!

  • @adamrichardson6821

    @adamrichardson6821

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes! So refreshing, that.

  • @douglasturner6153
    @douglasturner61532 ай бұрын

    Himmlers odd demise at Brit hands was not the only Nazi peacenik's. The strange death of Hess in Spandau in British control when even the Soviet's were agreeing to release him silenced another fount of historical information 😊

  • @MrBagpipes

    @MrBagpipes

    2 ай бұрын

    Few historical figures were treated as unfairly as Hess.

  • @dkrab9506

    @dkrab9506

    2 ай бұрын

    Hess didn't kill himself

  • @shannonquinn8687

    @shannonquinn8687

    2 ай бұрын

    Spandau wasn't just under British control, but overseen by Britain, the US and France at the same time via rotating troops. While there's mystery surrounding his death, the rumors I heard had nothing to do with political intrigue.

  • @tomhenry897

    @tomhenry897

    2 ай бұрын

    He was Epsteined

  • @douglasturner6153

    @douglasturner6153

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@shannonquinn8687 Control rotated. Hess was under British control when he died

  • @ajace5883
    @ajace58832 ай бұрын

    There we have it. Churchill didn´t want the war to end until Germany was destroyed. Also didn´t care about the Bristish soldiers that would die in the process. Fantastic video.

  • @markdeegan7268

    @markdeegan7268

    2 ай бұрын

    Who knows. One group of facts may present something. There may be other reasons for anything?

  • @michaelrimmer338

    @michaelrimmer338

    2 ай бұрын

    Or had no intention of trusting a post war Germany led by Himmler. Not that outrageous really.

  • @mc-lb9dk

    @mc-lb9dk

    2 ай бұрын

    well, that was knew to you??

  • @noone-kk2zs

    @noone-kk2zs

    2 ай бұрын

    Common knowledge.

  • @caractacusbrittania7442

    @caractacusbrittania7442

    2 ай бұрын

    Not so, it was agreed previously by stalin Churchill rooseveldt Only unconditional surrender would be accepted.

  • @jasonhooey5677
    @jasonhooey56772 ай бұрын

    That was one of your best episodes ever, so juicy with details, double and triple crossing plots.

  • @jaimebernate6593
    @jaimebernate65932 ай бұрын

    I am fascinated with World War II in the European theater and your videos are just absolutely phenomenal. Bringing up little things that most folks don’t even consider. I am getting one hell of an education from you, Mark thank you very much for what you do. I do have a question that’s been sitting in the back of my head for a few years that I’ve been wanting to ask a military historian aboutspecifically June 22, 1941

  • @peterdirlis6461
    @peterdirlis64612 ай бұрын

    I agree with you with regard to Himmler's convenient death in British hands. I saw your video on Himmler's death. Another great job, professor! Thanks!

  • @billirvin9057
    @billirvin90572 ай бұрын

    I'm a huge fan of alternate history novels and there were enough plots and plot twists in that 30 min video to make a 3 or 4 volume series. Amazing stuff as always.

  • @steverosario5962
    @steverosario59622 ай бұрын

    I have been viewing Dr. Felton's videos for about 7 years now and without a doubt, this is by far his best video yet!!!

  • @shannonsullivan1968
    @shannonsullivan19682 ай бұрын

    Good night Irene, the “Palace Intrigue” that occurred during WW II is mind boggling to say the least. I knew of the peace advocates in the British government and Churchill’s mindset that it was a necessary evil to remain as Prime Minister. I was not aware the U. S. was so heavily involved as well. It does, seemingly, layout the different characters motivations (big business, politicians, financiers, etc). Oh what a totally different world we would have today had the secret machinations won the day. Thank you Dr. Felton for presenting this excellent report and video.

  • @salvadorvillegas3569

    @salvadorvillegas3569

    2 ай бұрын

    @shannonsullivan1968 : Conforme se va sabiendo la verdad y el rol tan VIL de los británicos, quedará reprochar que Hitler no diera la orden de masacrar a los 444,300 anglo-franceses en Dunkerke y ese día habría ganado la guerra ....la URSS stalinista solo se sostuvo por el poder judeo-masónico de EEUU con un presidente CRIPTOJUDÍO que los utilizó como su banco de sangre ....

  • @joanofarc1338
    @joanofarc13382 ай бұрын

    Well I do declare, this work by Dr Felton sounds like a short doctoral dissertation. Simply outstanding‼️

  • @adamrichardson6821
    @adamrichardson68212 ай бұрын

    Truly remarkable quality. Just discovered this channel and, of course, I am hooked. Absolutely superb on all levels. Thank you, Dr. Felton; bravo, sir.

  • @ekim000
    @ekim0002 ай бұрын

    I have never watched or listened to one of the good doctor's episodes without learning something new about an are of interest I have actively pursued for 40 years. Thanks for the outstanding work, youtube is a very much better place for it!

  • @Wayoutthere
    @Wayoutthere2 ай бұрын

    The ironic thing is, the intense political, corporate and financial entities involved in shenanigans like this can totally be classified in the realm of 'conspiracy theories'. If stuff like this was done behind closed doors, in modern times you can bet your butt that even worse is happening.

  • @zschow9259

    @zschow9259

    2 ай бұрын

    don't worry. be happy.

  • @user-zu6qn9ux9n

    @user-zu6qn9ux9n

    2 ай бұрын

    Of course worse is happening. How do you think politicians on a salary become multi millionaires so regularly.

  • @SJReid82
    @SJReid822 ай бұрын

    The detail you offer up in these mini-documentaries is often astounding, Dr. Felton. Thank you for continuing to provide us such exceptional content. I look forward to every upload!

  • @JohnSmith-qz1br

    @JohnSmith-qz1br

    8 күн бұрын

    Check out The Bad War by M.S. King , The Greatest Story Never Told by Denis Wise , movie Europa. Also Kennedy's Diary and what he wrote

  • @SJReid82

    @SJReid82

    8 күн бұрын

    @@JohnSmith-qz1br Thanks for the recommendation, I will check those out.

  • @asya9493
    @asya94932 ай бұрын

    Why do I think this episode is Part One of something bigger ??? Thank you Dr Felton, everything about this channel is excellent.

  • @RBAILEY57
    @RBAILEY572 ай бұрын

    Thank you, Dr. Felton. I've studied WW2 for 60 years, and I've learned so much from your videos. This one puts some puzzle pieces together. Your theory about Himmler's demise is quite plausible.

  • @hannibalbarca4372
    @hannibalbarca43722 ай бұрын

    Believe it or no, this version was well known by the Soviet people at least since 1969 by the novel "Seventeen Moments of Spring" by Yulian Semyonov, the book adopted as a television mini-series, which was filmed in 1971-72 and had a large popular success at that time...

  • @6omega2
    @6omega22 ай бұрын

    See that guy standing to the right of General Guderian at 29 seconds? That's Fegelein. "FEGELEIN! FEGELEIN!! FEGELEIN!!!" LOL!

  • @user-vk6tn1ie7k

    @user-vk6tn1ie7k

    2 ай бұрын

    Indeed it is! Good catch

  • @allegrajane7205

    @allegrajane7205

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes! I'm glad I'm not the only one who always notices him in these films and thinks of his ignominious end.

  • @thelittlelovemaid

    @thelittlelovemaid

    Ай бұрын

    Wonder if he was plotting antics? Lol! Those Downfall parody videos immortalized him.

  • @user-vk6tn1ie7k

    @user-vk6tn1ie7k

    Ай бұрын

    @@thelittlelovemaid Absolutely he was! you should definitely check out Mark Felton’s video on him..... total character always scheming for more power as he married the sister of Hitler’s mistress to get ahead. This background is a crazy story I won’t spoil it for you.

  • @justinallen6934
    @justinallen69342 ай бұрын

    Amazing Dr. Felton! I love how you convey your videos. The amount of detail and deep diving that you put into your videos is immaculate. Thank you 😊

  • @henriknilsson7851
    @henriknilsson78512 ай бұрын

    There is more research in this episode than you will find in a month of a major news paper or a year in TV news. Fabulous work as always!

  • @TarpeianRock
    @TarpeianRock2 ай бұрын

    Great vid, almost all new to me. 1. This makes Rudolph Hess’ flight and peace feelers to England seem less of an isolated event. 2. It’s often said that Hitler was incompetent as a military strategist, that’s probably a true statement but keep in mind that in their postwar biographies all German generals tended to blame AH for military failures and ascribed the successes to themselves. This has influenced the historiography of the German campaigns to a large extent.

  • @Hellasarius
    @Hellasarius2 ай бұрын

    This is a masterclass in historic research. Seriously, Dr. Felton, as far as I'm concerned you are the world's foremost authority on WW2.

  • @urwrstntmre

    @urwrstntmre

    2 ай бұрын

    It's worth exploring the perspectives of others, too. No one person has a monopoly on knowledge of these very complicated times

  • @rockfishmiller
    @rockfishmiller2 ай бұрын

    Wow, there's a lot of moving parts here, going to have to watch this again. Thanks so much for posting.

  • @jerichofalls8236
    @jerichofalls82362 ай бұрын

    One of my absolute favorite channels to watch. Whenever I see a new video from Dr. Felton, I know it's going to be not only captivating but accurate and objective. Regardless of who's history is being discussed. You're the best, Mark.

  • @John.McMillan
    @John.McMillan2 ай бұрын

    It is kind of odd how accurate Hitler was with his paranoia. Even before the war some of his highest ranking were plotting his downfall, and even from the outset the closest and most trusted of his inner circle were planning to overthrow him, with all of these plans being independent. Honestly, it's impressive he lasted as long as he did and it wasn't an overthrow that ended it, but himself. I don't know if that speaks to the might of Hitlers cult of personality, or the cowardice of those in it. Probably both.

  • @quintrankid8045

    @quintrankid8045

    2 ай бұрын

    Paranoia? Perhaps one day he realized, "Mein gott, I'm surrounded by nazis!"

  • @zschow9259

    @zschow9259

    2 ай бұрын

    kinda the nature of being top dog all the puppies want ur bone

  • @kiwitrainguy

    @kiwitrainguy

    2 ай бұрын

    There were over 40 attempts on the life of Adolph Hitler.

  • @johnnunes2993

    @johnnunes2993

    Ай бұрын

    Go and watch “greywolf” hitler’s escape to Argentina. Tells a story of how he escaped and lived in South America with His wife. Had a daughter who still lives there today. I’m not saying it’s true, but it’s interesting, especially since the CIA and FBI were investigating it and had reports of Hitler being hidden by the German population in Argentina.

  • @user-pn3im5sm7k

    @user-pn3im5sm7k

    Ай бұрын

    He was incredibly intelligent. Genius would be an understatement. So of course he had accurate situational awareness. For some reason, Allied occupiers decided to test the IQ's of reich leadership. You can find the results easily, but I recall that leaders with IQ's of 140-150 testified that they felt dumb around A.H. and that he was an incredibly quick thinker.

  • @jeanlarose2343
    @jeanlarose23432 ай бұрын

    You are absolutely correct concerning Himler's demise at the hands of the british authorities when he was arrested at the end of WW2.

  • @Howie900
    @Howie9002 ай бұрын

    I always thought I had a lot of knowledge myself relating to WW2 but Dr Felton never ceasing in stopping me in my tracks. This one really took me aback and made me realise just how little I really know. Many thanks Dr Felton and I look forward to my next lesson !

  • @dante666jt
    @dante666jt2 ай бұрын

    Mark Felton: *uploads historical video* The whole internet: yes

  • @TheWilferch
    @TheWilferch2 ай бұрын

    Holy Smokes.....the possible "re-think", if not total re-writing of what history has told us.....is staggering here, if you "connect-all-the-dots". What a turn-around !!!......

  • @mc-lb9dk

    @mc-lb9dk

    2 ай бұрын

    WHO writes history? The victors. Who are they? Who gained most of this war? Who wanted it the most?

  • @PF9O

    @PF9O

    Ай бұрын

    @@mc-lb9dk The Americans didn't want it at all, and ended up with almost everything.

  • @765kvline
    @765kvline2 ай бұрын

    I was aware that in the early stages of success with the German attack on the Soviet Union, the Soviets entertained and submitted a potential diplomatic solution to the war with Stalin. Stalin would offer Von Ribbentrop and Hitlerite Germany the land taken thus far in the USSR, if they would stop the invasion and cease offensive hostilities. Germany turned this overture down (this was prior to November 1941). Later the reverse occurred, when an offer was made by Germany to halt the war in the East if Russia would commit to the status quo and the war would cease. As the Soviets knew the war was being handily won with their succeeding victories against the Axis, they held the upper hand. Naturally, in both cases there was cause for the "winning" side to decline these offers. However, I was not aware of the exigencies of the process described in this video by the particular groups, agencies and organizations described with details here. Good research. Many questions I had have now been answered.

  • @pierreleon8414
    @pierreleon84142 ай бұрын

    Once again Dr Mark Felton colours in the shadowy outlines of events in WW2. Each of his productions is a meticulously researched and brilliantly presented documentary. Bravo sir.

  • @buzzyhardwood2949
    @buzzyhardwood29492 ай бұрын

    Well done, Mark! Absolutely fascinating how the intrigue ebbed and flowed.

  • @user-lh4sl5vx5e
    @user-lh4sl5vx5e2 ай бұрын

    Mark please do a video on the Maison Rouge meetings please please please

  • @jonathanljohnson
    @jonathanljohnson2 ай бұрын

    After watching the video on Himmler's strange death at the hands of the allies, I've wondered why they would be so keen to dispatch the chicken farmer; now I know! Thanks again, Dr. Felton!

  • @paulmurphy42
    @paulmurphy422 ай бұрын

    Keep 'em coming Mark! The most wonderfully, splendidly complicated video you've ever posted! Bravo!

  • @roygardiner2229
    @roygardiner22292 ай бұрын

    What a riveting and complex account. I shall have to watch it again: my mind is boggled!

  • @user-lh4sl5vx5e
    @user-lh4sl5vx5e2 ай бұрын

    Once again your work outdoes itself Mark. You conduct your work in such a fascinating way, i can sit hear for bloody hours listening to your melodic voice and soaking up great information like a dry sponge 😅. Bravo! And cheers for the great work Mark. From Australia 🦘

  • @gapexx
    @gapexx2 ай бұрын

    I would love to see a dr. Felton coverage of the Morgenthau plan ...

  • @tallthinwavy3
    @tallthinwavy32 ай бұрын

    This should be a 3 hour documentary film in 3 parts. Well done as usual.

  • @murrayeldred3563
    @murrayeldred35632 ай бұрын

    One of the Best of the best episodes in my opinion.....such detail on this subject.....which I have not heard anywhere else......

  • @antrimhurler
    @antrimhurler2 ай бұрын

    Thank you Dr Felton for shedding a very informative light on what we all know was a very dark and murky process during WW2.

  • @mursefaneca
    @mursefaneca2 ай бұрын

    This might probably be my favourite video of yours, Dr Felton. I stopped watching a few months ago due to lack of time but Gor damn the content youve made thus far is perfect for binge watching!

  • @1claudiusgothicus

    @1claudiusgothicus

    2 ай бұрын

    ok Gor

  • @phillipellis2119
    @phillipellis21192 ай бұрын

    Very grateful, as always, for superb Mark Felton history. I had no idea ...

  • @nunyabusiness4510
    @nunyabusiness45102 ай бұрын

    The entire episode is very interesting and informative but your last line is quite the enigma @DrMarkFelton. Thankyou for another history lesson that makes us all think a bit more about how we got to where we are now. Salute sir!

  • @TheCleric42
    @TheCleric422 ай бұрын

    This is the most astonishing video of yours that I’ve ever seen

  • @mikehunter5046
    @mikehunter50462 ай бұрын

    I’ve always thought Himmler’s death in British custody seemed a little fishy. This whole story would make a great book.

  • @nodarkthings
    @nodarkthings2 ай бұрын

    Absolutely fascinating, Dr. Felton. Thank you.

  • @larrygorst8749
    @larrygorst87492 ай бұрын

    So much fun. I had a good time this afternoon. Thanks so much for sharing.

  • @Guido_XL
    @Guido_XL2 ай бұрын

    As I did not yet see this video in its entirety, I only can assume that this is about contacts between the Western Allies and German resistance figures. Having read "Roosevelts Weg zum Krieg 1933-1939" by Dirk Bavendamm, I came to learn quite some interesting details about the advent of WWII in Europe. F.D. Roosevelt was continuously affecting French, British and Polish politics and diplomacy with the intent to launch war against Germany as soon as possible. He had to evade Congress' vigilance in doing so, but he succeeded in his goals nevertheless, which meant that he extorted the French and British with possible retention of American war support, should war become imminent. The conclusion of all of these details may be quite inconvenient to the popularised narrative on WWII in Europe, as the initiation of war could have been prevented, if that presidential meddling had not taken shape as it did. Peace talks between Britain, France, Poland and Germany were realistically gravitating towards actual peace, if left unaffected by this kind of illicit intriguing. Eventually, Hitler was left with hardly any other option than to proceed as he did. Peace options had dried out, but not solely due to his alleged war-mongering, as the common narrative likes to stress.

  • @janporinchak5867
    @janporinchak58672 ай бұрын

    Wow, this is eye opening. Yes, it's pretty oblivious now why Himmler was eliminated at the end of the war by the allies.

  • @kalleostgren165
    @kalleostgren1652 ай бұрын

    Fantastic, fascinating, information. One of your best uploads, Mark! Great stuff, keep up the good work!

  • @ericarnow240
    @ericarnow2402 ай бұрын

    A very popular Soviet television series, 17 Moments of Spring, is about a Soviet agent working within the Abwehr as a spy, disrupted Allen Dulles' negotiations with a German general Wolfe, who was also trying to negotiate a separate peace with Germany, in violation of the agreement of the three allies NOT to negotiate a separate peace. Stalin had proof of Dulles doing so. On the other hand, Dulles was in contact with the German resistance, but refused to negotiate with them. He preferred to negotiate with Nazis. He later protected Nazi assets and of course. protected and brought to the US numerous Nazi war criminals. The TV series says that when Stalin presented FDR with evidence of collusion, FDR denied knowing about it. So it was likely that Dulles was even acting behind FDRs back. a treasonous offense. Also, it's now well known that Churchill did indeed want to continue the war against the Soviets, after they saved England from getting overrun by Germany. Don't expect honor or integrity from Perfidious Albion. The TV series presents the key players mentioned in this video, and gives the Soviet view of behind the scenes intrigue.

  • @hmrkovic
    @hmrkovic2 ай бұрын

    Fantastic stuff! To me it was allways somewhat odd that Himmler tried to negotiate peace with the west only in the final stages of war.. This make more sense, he was negotiating with them much earlier!

  • @paulpowell4871
    @paulpowell48712 ай бұрын

    Mark this is a stand Alone GOAT!!! OMG Nothing in the past comes close and that is saying something as your content is some of the best and worthy of an Oscar a Grammy and the Victoria Cross!!

  • @paulpowell4871

    @paulpowell4871

    2 ай бұрын

    You and your channel got me through cancer and the treatments. All clear for 3 years now. I am a lover of all History but your grasp of WW2 is without equal. If I ever hit the Lottery you are on my funding list.....lol thank you

  • @m777howitzer4
    @m777howitzer42 ай бұрын

    The views and followers you are gaining are impressive and it’s great to watch your channel grow like a wild flower.

  • @dipankargupta9359
    @dipankargupta93599 күн бұрын

    Mr Felton I am an ardent lover of your war stories for quite a long time. I am very impressed with your story of Himlar Solution, it is worth of making a successful film. Thanks for presenting such nicely crafted informative story.

  • @frankgesuele6298
    @frankgesuele62982 ай бұрын

    Imagine the course of History if this had worked. Germany fighting the USSR with Allied support would have been something Stalin had suspicions might happen. One can certainly see Gen Patton wanting in on that.

  • @islandmasterjoaquinoftheis3117
    @islandmasterjoaquinoftheis31172 ай бұрын

    Hitler: "It's almost like everyone's only pretending to be my friend because they know otherwise, I'd beat them up!" Amazing video, excellently done! 👍👍

  • @Darkmatrix22
    @Darkmatrix222 ай бұрын

    brilliant Dr. Felton!!! more please!!

  • @2862WU
    @2862WU2 ай бұрын

    Some years ago I read Tigers in the mud by tank ace Otto Carius. What I found surprising was his account of how he received one of his medals from Himmler. Despite Himmler apparently being a teetotaller and non smoker he was quite happy for Carius to do so and seems to have been a perfect host who also listened and allowed Carius to talk freely.

  • @theodorejay1046
    @theodorejay10462 ай бұрын

    Imagine a Europe where Russia would have been diminished but Germany lay down it's arms against the other Western Allies 🤔

  • @biof7587
    @biof75872 ай бұрын

    Like all of Dr. Felton's videos it is interesting, but alternate interpretations can be given for many of the events. The major issue is that Müller interrogated many of the people "involved" and would have gotten enough information to have implicated Himmler if he was truly involved. However that did not happen.

  • @johnevans9751
    @johnevans97512 ай бұрын

    A dizzying group of actors in this play. Research and presentation: outstanding. Many thanks.

  • @scottiebrooks
    @scottiebrooks2 ай бұрын

    Wow! This is one of the best and newly informative videos I have ever seen! ❤️ Please, share more of this type of lesser know history! Truly fantastic! 👏

  • @MVProfits
    @MVProfits2 ай бұрын

    Amazing content. It shows how Hitler's super ambitious plans for conquest made a lot of high ranking Nazis uneasy. Hitler wanted radical, history altering changes, while many of his followers wanted to maintain their power and status, and were not as willing to risk it all. Just like all the high ranking UK politicians being uneasy about Churchill's all out war stance. That Himmler was likely assassinated by the British makes sense indeed! It would have been great to know how much was it treachery on his part (before 1945 anyway) and how much it was his way to try tp keep the war to just one front, against the Soviet Union.

  • @Forlyn0
    @Forlyn02 ай бұрын

    Haha, what a connection at the end there! Imagine Himmler going off on trial of his peace negotiations, would've been a few red faces indeed

  • @claywest9528
    @claywest95282 ай бұрын

    Fascinating! Really good research and commentary! Thanks for the element of humor also!

  • @BlayneRiley
    @BlayneRiley2 ай бұрын

    Excellent reporting. I learned so much! Thank you for the video, Mr. Felton.

  • @christopherfritz3840
    @christopherfritz38402 ай бұрын

    Man! That's mindboggling. Completely BELIEVABLE. This interpretation, at least thru early 1941, IMO clears up the whole 'Hess' affair mystery. DEFINITELY AH☠️ would have known and probably hoped for a development. Incredibly it nearly SANK the English Churchill faction when Germany very nearly pulled off the defeat of Russia through OBarbarrossa..

  • @anonnemo2504
    @anonnemo25042 ай бұрын

    A fascinating story, as usual, brilliantly presented. Such plots and counter-plots amongst so many aristocrats, industrialists, politicians on both sides of the Atlantic whilst tens of millions died.

  • @paulkoza8652
    @paulkoza86522 ай бұрын

    Mark, this is one of the best of your investigations and analysis of the war. I must listen to it repeatedly to gain the understanding and insight that you and your research have uncovered. I hope you live to a ripe old age because your quest for truth is highly admirable.

  • @DonDimor
    @DonDimor2 ай бұрын

    Thank you Mr Felton for another great video🙏🏻

  • @MarkRaymondLuce
    @MarkRaymondLuce2 ай бұрын

    Absolutely fascinating Mr. Felton! I have never heard of these coup talks / plans / proposals between Himmler and various German business leaders / industrialists and bankers who wanted Hitler removed with British and American couriers and intelligence officials all of whom were reporting directly and indirectly to FDR and Churchill, and that Himmler probably was the mastermind behind the July 20, 1944 assassination attempt on Hitler, and the assassination failure and how Himmler's Gestapo immediately had all the coup participants whom he plotted this coup with arrested and executed as quickly as possible (others committed suicide because they knew they would be gruesomely tortured) to prevent them from being captured and talking about Himmler's involvement, it all makes perfect sense; and your theory as to the death of Himmler as a murder by the British in British custody also is perfectly logical and is probably what the actual truth is, he was murdered in order to cover-up the talks he had with the British and Americans early on in the war and during the war which would have most definitely saved the lives of hundreds of thousands of British and American military personnel and thousands of British civilians, and would have prevented the Russians from their westward drive to Berlin and the eventual occupation and seizure of the eastern European countries that eventually became part of the Warsaw pact communist "Iron Curtain" countries under Soviet control for the next 45 or so years, this is why Himmler was murdered - probably on the orders of at least Churchill and maybe Truman (FDR was dead at this point). I am quite sure that any and all documentation (if there were4 any) held by the British and Americans linking Churchill and FDR with this Himmler secret peace talks solution have all been destroyed. A few British officer's forced open Himmler*s mouth and the doctor put that cyanide pill in and they forced him to bite it or the doctor broke it open once he got his fingers into his mouth and then broke it open - hence the reason why his examination for a cyanide pill did not find one and why Himmler was able to eat sandwiches and drink tea before his forced suicide. A large proportion of the roughly 60 million deaths - military and civilians and both sides could have never happened, maybe the Jewish Final Solution could never have happened, and maybe the Cold War and Russia's occupation of Eastern Europe could never have happened had the Himmler Solution actually seriously green-lighted and actively pursued by FDR and Churchill! More research needs to be done on these secret talks between Himmler and FDR and Churchill!

  • @zschow9259

    @zschow9259

    2 ай бұрын

    i dont think himmler was the maste5rmind of the bomb plot. just an opportunist.

  • @jfm148
    @jfm1482 ай бұрын

    Advice, Mr. Felton. Avoid tall buildings in London with a view... 😉

  • @curtpeterson7386
    @curtpeterson73862 ай бұрын

    This is the first episode I've watched of Mr Felton's channel and it was very entertaining. The layers of intelligence someone would have to pour over and research must take long hours into weeks. The layers of back-channel communication these officers, attaches' and high profile politicians are exposed to show us just how detailed wars and military plans can get behind the scenes. Fascinating things I'd never heard, but long wondered about coming from many historians, but most often accepted as either rumor and/or "part of the game". I look forward to watching several of these videos and the work done by Mr Felton proves that history is not dull... but necessary to understand.

  • @kevinp3550
    @kevinp35502 ай бұрын

    Fifty years of reading WWII history but this video turned me into a naked baby. Absolutely shocked by the revelations of this video. I am also reminded of how little I really know about the current situation in American (world) politics. But that is the delicious thing about history, the peeling away of the machinations of heroes and villains. Hats off to Dr. Felton!