I think David’s willingness to be vulnerable and open with this community is why it’s so positive. I’m grateful for LML, his brilliant partner Minty, as well as all the funny and fantastic mods who work tirelessly to keep the streams running smooth. Everyone in this community has excellent contributions to the conversation. I bet GRRM would be proud. P.s. Andre Sapkowski is the author of the Witcher.

@DavidLightbringer

2 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU. I knew it was steeped in Eastern European lore but it’s been a while since I heard the name of the author. Cheers

The children need a human as a green seer and the others need a human as their “seer”/leader

“Icy teeth and frost fangs…” this is what I’m talking about. I just designed a wall specifically to collect drift snow for green gardening purposes. This world of ice and fire is perpetually inspiring.

@espalier

2 жыл бұрын

nice!

@DavidBaronStevensPersonal

2 жыл бұрын

That is so dope

How you combine video and livestream really pays off, thank you so much, it's a pleasure to spend time at your channel!

@DavidLightbringer

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much Teresa

Spiders definitely have what are considered in zoology as "fangs." They're the sharp parts of the chelicerae [mouth parts] that inject venom. You right, LML, you right. 🤜🤛

@DavidLightbringer

2 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU, thank you

@cloverazar5315

Жыл бұрын

And we eat how many of these a year?? Scuse me whilst I never sleep again. Who needs sleep.

Bro, I rewatch the vids on your channel more than any other, and by a wide margin, and I spend a stupid amount of time on youtube. There’s a substantial list of reasons I-and many others, I’m sure-keep checkin in, including but not limited to your insight, personality, voice, sense of humor, the community you’ve cultivated, etc etc. As evidence, I’m commenting a year later on another rewatch. This is all concerning your comments in the first 5 minutes. There’s so much shit to absorb in this material, I pretty much have to come back to remember and consider it all! So I hope you feel the appreciation today like you did on this stream, my man!

@DavidLightbringer

Жыл бұрын

thanks a lot, i really, really appreciate hearing that

Your talk of the white walkers having “eyes” via the stars in the sky made me wonder if the moon represents an eye too. There used to be two moons… or two eyes? Does the current singular moon mean there was a previous sacrifice of the other moon (eye) for “all seeing knowledge”? stream; great stuff ✌️

@ChrisVillagomez

2 жыл бұрын

By the gods that's actually a crazy good theory!!!

@j.kyronhanson5644

Жыл бұрын

I'm on board for some version of this being true. Excellent musing!

Just watched this again... so here's another comment for you and the algorithm gods! I had a really bad day today, I had to revive a patient that I'm really close to and it really knocked me around mentally, so a big THANKYOU for your video as it really helped me to get out of my head today. 😇😇❤💯

@DavidLightbringer

2 жыл бұрын

Another one returned to us! Pardon the joke, but praise be that you were able to provide the right care at the right moment! Thanks for all that you do Amanda.

This stream went really deep into the weeds (no pun intended) of pure lml-ness😂 Loved it. Had a lot of fun. Its what we all come here for. Well done. Thanks Dave🤘🏾

Don’t think I would be able to understand this story as deep as I do with out your help and contributions seriously man i have just been bingeing all your streams and videos

David you just keep pumping out ever green content, love you man

In faery lore, they can actually choose when they want to be seen(no, not just an Arthur Spiderwick idea), so I think it's VERY cool to think that the Others are on the wind and can choose when to manifest a body. GRRM loves Gaelic mythology so I really do think there's something to this. Good job, as always.

@DavidLightbringer

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! And yes I knew in a general way that fae beings can do that; this would be taking George’s “icy aes sidhe” comparison to the Others all the way!

@aryn9608

2 жыл бұрын

@@DavidLightbringer yeah it's pretty cool. Apologies for the length of this response in advance. GRRM even used some Pleiades lore in his books. On a side note, has it ever occured to you that if you added red to blue, you get purple? Just another thing I'm adding into your theory that the dawn age dragon riders and the Others are indeed related somehow. George likes to hide stuff in plain sight. I would LOVE it if you would do a video on Dany's prophecies! "When the seas go dry and the mountains blow in the wind like leaves" sounds a lot like winter snows and frozen seas. It'd be so cool to hear your take on the prophecies even if they can't be trusted. Love your work dude!!!! You ought to be better known as you really do get into GRRM's head which is important for making theories as he's an INTP and accounts for only 3% of the population. Much praise and support from me to come. For now, I will praise Garth and go to bed.

Excellent stream an way too talk ! Seriously you and this community help me put my problems on hold even for just a few hours (adhd anxiety,an I know insomnia sucks so I'm with you on the sleepless night brother) also side note great take on baptism, as someone else who was also baptized as I child, great take as American(an a adult) having a choice means alot *eagle cry !* see you Wednesday an maybe il put in that Patreon name request but I didn't want too ask more of a Leonardo da Vinci such as yourself lol

@DavidLightbringer

2 жыл бұрын

haha just send me your nickname info int he patreon messages, I'll see it when I go to update all the names and add you in. Thank you! And happy to help pass the time, for sure

@THEMightyMonarch316

2 жыл бұрын

@@DavidLightbringer absolutely I will an also every time you mentioned "The wild hunt" or Odin, "Ghost Riders In the Sky" automatically played in my head lol

Do you know what it is like to be sold, squire? I do. My brother sold me to Khal Drogo for the promise of a golden crown. Well, Drogo crowned him in gold, though not as he had wished, and I... my sun-and-stars made a queen of me, but if he had been a different man, it might have been much otherwise. Do you think I have forgotten how it felt to be afraid?

I didn’t even see the whirlwind beginning until I left a comment. 😂

Great stream 👍 personally would love for them to find an ice dragon in the heart of winter 🥶 ❄️

Great videos. Your passion for ASoIaF is extremely infectious, and I really enjoy your commentary. Thanks for continuing to put out your awesome content! Also, spiders do have fangs; the hollow tooth designed to inject venom is a fang, not a pincer; a pincer is more like a claw, such as what a crab or a scorpion might have at the end of its arm, or what an ant might have on its mouth.

@indoorplant2392

Ай бұрын

Nah he talking about the Arachna Sheloba from Mexico

Thank you for all the hard work you put into these videos and streams! Really appreciate watching! Love this positive community that you created here!

The ice spider stuff is paying big dividends, symbol-wise!

Fun discussion on this one. Lots of topics.

I love the idea of Jon being resurrected by ice and fire, making him a better Wight than all the others.

@Ahaa686

2 жыл бұрын

Or better yet, actually ressurecting him as a human.

Thankyou !!! Great stream!! 👍

Your channel helps me white out my coworkers worship of the Orange Goblin. F’Real.

@DavidLightbringer

2 жыл бұрын

ugh. Stay strong buddy

@espalier

2 жыл бұрын

@@DavidLightbringer I need candy, any kind'll do Don't care if it's nutritious or "FDA approved" It's gonna make me spaz like bobcats on booze A hyperactive juice that only I can produce

The "Red Widow" is actually a type of Black Widow spider in the real world. Of course they are called Black Widows because the females spiders eat the male spiders after mating. Evolutionarily speaking, the male spider is not of much use after the mating, so the female spider consumes the male spider to gain the protein and energy for reproduction. So the use of Red Widow symbolism in the Rohanne Webber story works on many levels: 0. The sigil colors are the weirwood colors, weirwood net, etc, I think you covered all this in the Rohanne Webber stream 1. From the plot perspective, her husbands just keep dying mysteriously after each marriage, there is a rumor that she kills them, so that's like the female Red Widow spider eating the male spiders it mates with. 2. Symbolically, Azor Ahai is a dead man. The Nissa Nissa/Nght's Queen person eats Azor Ahai (or gets his energy) and pops out Ice spiders.

@DavidLightbringer

2 жыл бұрын

that all seems right. Like I said I want to go back over now with these new ideas in mind

Good stream Mushrooms and Weirwoods act the same with Mycelium and the tree roots holding the same value

@DavidLightbringer

2 жыл бұрын

need to do an entire mushroom symbolism video soon

I’ve looked for the “series of tubes” video before and had trouble finding it. I was so psyched to see it again!

Awesome stream! Can't wait for Wednesday :)

Thank you for creating rich discussion around specific details as it helps me dive further into the material and my own theories.

Great stream, as always!

Makes sense that the WW aren’t “killed” when their ice bodies break, especially if they’re imprisoned within the weirwoods - more reason to go inside and face them down, only to understand their situation and change it.

@pratzuli

2 жыл бұрын

Varys could be a good analog for the white walkers, a long-game planner with spies everywhere; when you said spy-door it made a lot of thematic sense.

Your videos are the best! I originally started watching Your channel cuz I was hyped for House of the Dragon. Now you've got me so excited for mythical astronomy that I've started reading Fire and Blood. Thank u for ur genuine enthusiasm, it's the best part about Sundays!

Can’t put into words how great these videos are. Your positivity is contagious, glad that you make such high quality content.

The fArya / Ramsay wedding takes place in a strange mist, but it's a *warm* mist from the hot springs.

Coming home after work to D. Lightbringer☄ and some Garth🌿 These are a few of my favorite things 🤘

Always love your chats and you 💜🥰💜🥰

@DavidLightbringer

2 жыл бұрын

thanks for supporting Violet!

I'm gonna be honest. I've read all the books twice and heard ALL theories at least once. But I still feel not nearly as smart as most of you guys on the live stream so I usually stay quiet and just listen but the rare times I've super chatted and asked a question he never made me feel silly or belittled my question (even though I'm sure it was a pretty basic question or maybe way off). He makes everyone feel included and like now I always go back and relisten to his old stuff. Also the people in the chat are really cool at answering questions and making it a fun place to spend some time. I'm disabled so you guys (all of you) help me get my mind off my pain for a little while which means a lot. So Thank you. Oh and over the years I've watched this channel improve greatly!! He's got real talent not just in the world of Ice and Fire but in the future he'd make a great radio host or audible reader.

@DavidLightbringer

Жыл бұрын

wow Jennifer thanks so much for saying so!

@Jennifer-di4nl

Жыл бұрын

@@DavidLightbringer It's all true. Sorry I can't donate more but I always upvote and share your videos

I love everything I see behind you so much 😍 What an aesthetic overload!

That’s a cool idea, that the Wall is made from ice dragons. I’ve always thought the cold pool in Winterfell’s godswood was a melted ice dragon and that the heart tree was drinking it.

@billdavis2590

Жыл бұрын

Honestly if Bran the builder was just building structures with dragons around the world and trapping them in there like the Warlocks of Qarth to use them as magic batteries that’d be funny. Love the idea of building the wall with dragons.

You complete get me trough kitchen duties! Love your content.

Just discovered your channel and watched all the video before I started on the live streams keep doing your thing.!!!

Thanks 🙏🏻 for sharing this very good stream LML!💪🏼👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻🙋🏼‍♀️🇨🇦

Just wanted to say this is another great talk, and I love the theremin lol. Well done!

There are a lot more teleportation fey myths/legends through trees, Dungeons and Dragons consequently have a bunch in their game and spells like “tree stride”. General rules: one hides behind a tree or enters into a tree and appears within sight out of another tree. More powerful levels, can travel to any tree in that plane of reality. That being said, teleportation is treated with care in fantasy gaming and can quickly become abused to game ending problems. I would guess GRRM wouldn’t allow actual teleportation in ASOIAF; but instead perceived teleportation like in works like “Elfquest” and that Clint Eastwood movie.

Another delightfully thought provoking episode.

There's ice magic and fire magic that seem to be at odds with each other but what about green magic being at odds with water magic: the Iron Born say "What is dead may never die" which seems like a perversion of green magic and the cycle of life and natural death. Just a thought...

Spot on analysis! Got spiders on the brain. So a few thoughts: * One of the ways to best see a spider web is when it’s exposed in sunlight to make it shiny * Webs are like bridges for spiders to traverse. * Poisonous spiders have venom but they all liquify the innards of the prey to consume * I wonder if we should think of the shade of the evening as venom and the undying/Pyat Pree as the spider like others

@DavidLightbringer

Жыл бұрын

Yes to the last

Keep up the great videos Lucy. PRAISE GARTH!!

IK ive commented on almost every video ive watched but its so amazing the timing of which i found your channel and started reading the books. i feel like you and tim have literally been with me as i delve deeper into the rabbit hole that is GRRM symbolism. and anyone who says you read in between the lines too much, i say to them they are as welcome to deny shakey bits of history just as the maesters did, but the long night came after all, so i would consider reading a bit more into the written histories as George invites us to do.

I'm 25 minutes into this. You had just equated poison to venom, symbolically. Frost Fangs are called that because the icicles on the trees in the mountain range. Doran poisoned the tip of his metal long fang and bit into The Mountain. (Direwolf dreams call weapons teeth and claws? I think) I don't know what to make of this, but hey, more symbolism there maybe? I know you already did a big breakdown on sun, comet, moon meteors, cosmic axis, etc

Brilliant as always. Thank you :)

LML dropping the news we might be getting the collaboration with Preston Jacobs we’ve all wanted! 🥳🥳

For the algorithm. Thank you for another great stream!

Saving this stream for later, but an offering to the algorithm can't wait.

What a blessing to come home from work for. Just magnificent work dude, as always

@DavidLightbringer

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Christian!

I just wanted to mention once that I believe it should be noted that Yiti really should be seen as a mixture of the Chinese empire and ancient India, especially in regards to the plentiful old ruins.

Keep up the good work!

@espalier

2 жыл бұрын

Ice Spiders, Nice Spiders, Spiders from MARS

Sad I missed this live, guess I’ll just have to enjoy it now ;)

almost 3 hours of absolute bomb ass content. yes!!

@DavidLightbringer

2 жыл бұрын

oh wow thank you it was just me talking. appreciate it

The old school Japanese Spider-Man theme could be free of copyright shenanigans 🤷🏼‍♂️

Thanks Dave

I think both Night's King and the Queen were starks, maybe bastards or somethring. It makes sense for them to practice incest, since people think it's a curse not just imoral. In general I think both Night's king and queen and Amethyst and Bloodstone were brother and sister or releated anyway.

Doing work with Preston will be entertaining and successful. Looking forward to a playlist with the two of you.

@dannystevens7921

2 жыл бұрын

Would love to see these two come together with a good writer and song writer to finish the series when the time comes.

Dont know if you¿ll get to read this commet but thank you for all this productions that you make and help us navigate the tribulations of life. Thank ypu LML!!!!

Concerning the Others and resurrecting wights - they are not alive so no life is needed for them to rise. Same as Berric & LS. Drogo was truly resurrected (although with broken mind) - blood flowing etc. Jon will also be alive and his sanity saved by Ghost. This is the hill I am prepared to die on if need be.

Have you heard the music Preston Jacobs uses when he introduces Daemon Targaryan "the Rogue Prince"

@DavidLightbringer

2 жыл бұрын

No but he’s good with the funny music

59:34 I've been binge watching your streams recently and had no idea you put regular comments in as questions so I was mid battle in Total War and you start responding to a question I posed at least a year ago and it wigged me out lol.

@DavidLightbringer

4 ай бұрын

haha time loop

Thanks for the follow-up stream. Great content! I really like the teleportation theory. There was an episode of Star Trek: NextGen, in which legends and myths about a now extinct civilization could materialize people (mostly soldiers) out of thin air in any location throughout the galaxy. When the crew stumble upon a long abandoned out-post, they encounter this technology. Not saying that the WW use some advanced tech., just that this episode clicked on in my head.

Great stream!

good stuff!

2:22:00 Man, I laughed so hard at the "Spy-door" bit An astute observation ! 🤣

@DavidLightbringer

2 жыл бұрын

it's one of the things I'd like to ask Martin the most as far as "is this intentional on your part?", meaning, all the puns and word jokes

@robcastleton3359

2 жыл бұрын

@@DavidLightbringer I'd guess that sometimes it's just incidental but I would bet that alot of them are intentional lol. It's a really clever way actually to build depth into the story in general. They puns, wordplay and doublespeak almost serve as "Trail of breadcrumbs"... George is a like the wizard of oz. With that kind of stuff lol I've tried to take a lot of tips from the way he weaves a story. :P

When (I think it was Jamie or Arya) falls asleep on a weirwood stump, they have what seems like a weirwood dream. I tend to think a dead or cut weirwood can see the past, but no longer the present or future or connect

One of the best arguments that I have found recently for your Azor Ahai/Dragonlords being the problem argument is the fact that Nan specifically says that the first men “gave the weirdwoods to the fire”. That seems like maybe Azor Ahai and his crew tried to beat them that way first before a “can’t beat them, join them” tactic and invaded the WWNet. Giving to the fire is such specific language that I don’t think GRRM would have used it by chance.

As always, the best content KZread has to offer.

@DavidLightbringer

2 жыл бұрын

thanks Brent!!!

If you do talk to Preston about TTBran: tell him about Finn Mcool myth and H.G. Wells “Time Machine “. Also the Tower card and how climbing down is falling up an upside down Tower. Bran will go down the well to a river, Reed climbs AND builds boats; so they will float (Altered States water floating) back to the Wall or Winterfell.

Ayo you KNOW my boi David LML an OG when he just casually name droppin MC PEE PANTS on this shiz! YOU NUMBER ONE IN THE HOOD, G.

@DavidLightbringer

2 жыл бұрын

AND he was a giant spider, the synergy is overwhelming

@ThommyofThenn

8 ай бұрын

Great reference!

@ThommyofThenn

8 ай бұрын

There is also a rapper named Schooly D who used to narrate earlier seasons

Heart of Winter = North Pole Heart of The Shadow = South Pole Magnetic Energy = Magick

Hey; tarantula keeper here; spiders do in fact have fangs. I used to collect my tarantulas fangs when she would shed her exoskeleton.

great stream! *spider emjoi*

For Ice Spiders, I agree in a behind the scenes sense; but in a “in world” sense: the spiders as trees don’t move from their spot, so there is likely another physical Ice Spiders moving that inspires the rumors for the locals. Probably ice clumped long hair zombies and frozen ice chunks of zombies with only a limb or two free each. Again, as a set of clues GRRM is telling about the Weirwoods/others: I agree, but as the direct cause for the wildlings’ rumors, not the main cause.

Bummed I missed this one live. Stuck late at work. The spider rapper from aqua teen is MC Peepants. I love that one.

@DavidLightbringer

2 жыл бұрын

Fucking hysterical man that one was devastating

Great video again! You definitely have me thinking back on Mel and her vision of the Great Other. Mel sees the Great Other and his Champion. Of course Mel's visions are unreliable, but what if this vision is correct? Like, the Others are the manifestation of the fallen dreamers whom died and were added to the hive mind. And now theyre pissed at Blood Raven for trapping them in the Net. Love how this video made me think of something new, even though I'm wrong. Thanks!

The pedants are out in force in the live chat in this one. Edit: And as far as the weirwood net, there is a real world basis for this, aspen trees form "clonal colonies" that consist of a single interconnected organism. The trees reproduce via root sprouts. The largest known colony is named Pando and is in Utah, USA it is estimated to be the heaviest and oldest living organism at 6 million kilos and 80 thousand years. (Most of that I knew off hand but had to look up the stats and location of Pando) Edit 2: Forgot to mention, Pando covers an area of 106 acres.

Happy Mardi Gras from south Louisiana! Come join the fun! Learn our mythology about our crews! Much love David!

@DavidLightbringer

2 жыл бұрын

Oh I’d love to visit nawlins some time I’ve hear about it

@julieloucalcote1368

2 жыл бұрын

It’s a wild ride down here! Bring Miss Minty and let’s party!

Nice ideas.

Talking about good and evil being capacities that dwell within people and gods, and the gods being all based on the same thing reminds me of something I heard recently: That the demons of one culture are the gods of their enemies, or their defeated enemies Like how the Israelites propped up Yahweh as the one true god, and casted the defeated gods like Baal as evil or demonic

Don't worry about missing 4: 20 The planet revolves and the actual time is relative to the locations position in respect to the star that lights it. Just look toward the west and rip the bong. 4: 20 will be there for you

@DavidLightbringer

2 жыл бұрын

Whoa *rips bong*

Peace and wholeness fam thanks for everything

Love ya man!

Brilliance Unfettered

@shannonrios8232

2 жыл бұрын

Or should I say, unfeathered 🦜😁

Patchface is also (falsely) claimed to have had a gray child with a symbolic ice queen (Selyse).

@DavidLightbringer

2 жыл бұрын

Ohh call there John

Nae, the Wall is just the real weirdly shaped tail of a kaiju sized dragon, it's body's asleep in the ocean or whatever

When you started correcting other "mistakes" during the now "infamous" Spider Fang Rant, and said "also I said Missy Elliot was the queen bee, but she's not, it's Lil Kim..." I busted out laughing fr. and WeirWood Teleportation is an amazing idea. blew my mind... Love bro.

@DavidLightbringer

2 жыл бұрын

I went as deadpan as I could lol

When you mentioned the black gate being for the night’s watch to pass it made me wonder. Obviously the magic in the wall seems to prevent wights and others and such creatures of magic from passing. If the night’s watch used to be wights as the symbolism seems to suggest then they wouldn’t be able to pass either, but maybe the black gate exists as a way for those night’s watch wights to pass through the wards

Just telling my wife about the sword Dawn, that it's supposed to have been forged from a meteor. She said it would have had to have been a meaty-ore to be suitable to be made into such a powerful sword

@DavidLightbringer

Жыл бұрын

and how to temper such a meteor sword, made from a meaty ore? You have any fire-breathing meat-eaters around? MEAT EATOR bwahahaha

You had me at cosmic axis brother

@DavidLightbringer

2 жыл бұрын

Thinking about doing a cosmic world tree my theme video

@AtomicDoorknob

2 жыл бұрын

@@DavidLightbringer I nut for any sort of world tree and Norse myth symbolism, more please mr lightbringer

Man- really loving the symbolism of spiders as avatars of structure & control, as well as the associations between the spiderwebs & snowflakes. Cool stuff.

@jenndowden8131

2 жыл бұрын

Also- probably completely unrelated, but the "prince who was promised", always makes me think of Nadine from The Stand, asking who promised her to Flagg.

@DavidLightbringer

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t know the stand but GRRM is a King fan I think

Come on man, you know we love you !

Great and entertaining stream! Ps was that a Luv Show, Ms. P* Pants reference? "I don't care what you call me just CALL ME!!"

@DavidLightbringer

2 жыл бұрын

What’s crazy is that I also referenced MC Pee Pants from Aquateen Hunger Force in the same stream. Didn’t know what “just called me” was even from actually so that’s wild

420th like lessssss gooooo great vid David