I thought Evil's game was focused on aggression rather than defense, even Rapha has repeatedly stated that Evil played an extremely aggressive style in QL. What do you mean by "defensive?" Most of these games are dragged out because of the clash between Evil's nearly perfect aggressive style and Rapha's perfect defensive wizardry. Evil knows he can't just push Rapha, because he'll just get punished, and Rapha will then go hyperdefensive upon obtaining a leading, which doesn't allow Evil to play his game. However, Rapha doesn't want to risk dying against Evil for the opposite reason. Evil's aggressive style perhaps shines the most in the way he pressures and chases the spawns. Evil can consistently chain frags off spawn (seriously watch the closing 2 minutes of 125 fps season #23 Grand Final Evil vs Cypher Lost World). This is why Rapha plays so slow and defensive to counter Evil's aggression. Watch how Rapha played DM13 against Evil in 2015. 1 frag lead then +back the whole game. By the way, if you haven't watched the 125 fps games. Even though they weren't major tournaments like the Dreamhacks, IEMs, and QuakeCons, there are some really great matches in there, though not at the same level as 2016 Elder. I'd actually say 125 fps Season #24's Grand Final is worth watching even next to QuakeCon 2010, 2012, 2013, 2014, and 2016. I would say the gameplay is faster in general though, as the Evil - Cypher matchup is very different from the Evil - Rapha matchup.

@xBioTV

2 жыл бұрын

Hey there! Yep, I kinda miss wrote / misspoke when making the video. I'm not really well versed when it comes to QL, as it's one of my least played Quakes. Gonna keep your comment pinned so I don't confuse people who are interested :)

@mythosspecialist1352

2 жыл бұрын

@@xBioTV Thanks =).

@gendalfgray7889

Жыл бұрын

What is +back?

@RequiemOfSolo

Жыл бұрын

@@gendalfgray7889 pressing your move backwards key or S. people use it to describe running away or defensive play

@TanThighsYum

9 ай бұрын

Uhhh OP he said Evil played offensively but then said his best Defense was Offense. I think you misheard my dude.

A crucial detail that makes the evil comeback so incredible which I think you missed was that after the double rail on Rapha, evil knew if Rapha spawned on the other side of the map, there was no way he would find him in time. So he leaves rail room, which allows the game to spawn rapha in there (since QL excludes the closest spawn points to prevent chain spawn kills). And he plays into the fact that the ONLY way he was getting that frag was IF rapha spawned back into that room. And sure enough. Yea it's pretty lucky, but to be able to maintain the wherewithal in a game THAT intense to play INTO that luck WHILE also hitting 2 PERFECT rockets is seriously what makes that one of the greatest plays in FPS history.

@mythosspecialist1352

2 жыл бұрын

Not to mention, rapha tied up the previous map with a spawn frag, man there were a lot of crucial spawn frags in this tournament.

@mythosspecialist1352

2 жыл бұрын

Or grand finals rather

@mythosspecialist1352

2 жыл бұрын

And it's crazy that rapha was able to avoid evils defensive damage in that LG push. One good rocket (60 ish damage would've killed him and tied it 1-1)

I was there in person and couldnt believe what I was witnessing. The most epic Quakecon final of all time hands down

@wothral2152

Жыл бұрын

U lucky

2023 and Rapha is still sweeping the floor with roster... He is insane.

The 2016 final was some of the most amazing e-sports gaming I've ever witnessed in my life, I still remember stumbling upon professional Quake and never stopping ever since, I still watch the Championship on weekends and watch Quakecon religiously. Thanks for the video

I remember how magical this final felt. Funny thing is neither player had been "playing out of their minds" through the tournament until this match went to OT. It was intense how nail biting every over time was

Decided to watch this entire video in my Diabotical Queue

@mitsuracer87

Жыл бұрын

Shots fired

This is the pinnacle of pro gaming

Damn I miss Zoot, he was the greatest quake caster.

@kartikeyatiwari2502

Жыл бұрын

I'd say 2gd was better

@dev_vg

Жыл бұрын

Zoot and dan. Best duo. 2gd was awesome too

@noblessus

Жыл бұрын

Zoot and DDK, great memories.

@billyrain6764

10 ай бұрын

Zoot and ins was was the best caster team and competitive team :)

@filiplmao

10 ай бұрын

I mean, he is still active, but no1 cares about QC. I'm sad that his career died like this, for me he was the greatest too.

Followed pro scenes for CS, Dota, and SC but never really watched much Quake, this was a pretty cool look into the world of it. The amount of map knowledge and mechanical skill is insane, and 1v1 means it's all on you lol. Cool video.

Oh yes, I remember watching this back then and biting my nails to the bone. Easily the best match I watched to this day. It's a shame Evil doesn't shine as bright in QC as he did in QL.

I remember this. Such an amazing game

great video. thanks for putting it together. i was a UT player but like quake lore.

@M8TRIX777

16 күн бұрын

Yeah, our UT lore wasn't as robust as Quake for sure

Wow.. Evil played very well, just amazing gameplay to outplay best quake player in the world. definetely deserve to win.

One simply can not go wrong using Home - We're finally landing. ChillSynth at its best.

What a great game quake was... A lot of memories watching this. Keep this series, you just got another subscriber here. Cheers!

That’s awesome man.. This grand final was probably the best entertainment I’ve ever witnessed. So good!

Thank you for giving opportunity to watch the final map by myself. That said, thanks to you the chaos of those jumps and shots became a symphony played by two masterminds, even for me not playing a single game of Quake Arena.

Great video, really enjoyed it, more please!

rapha vs evil on elder is the single greatest quake game ever played

I get the chills every time I see this. Legendary.

Rapha def my all time fav q3 player. Such a humble guy with the talent to go with it. Love the video.

I watched it live, the hype was insane.

I've re-watched this match up so many times, 2hype4me

Fantastically exciting match. I don't think we will ever see the excitement and fun we had in "the good old days".

Рад, что рекомендации меня занесли к тебе на канал, спасибо за ностальгию :)

man i really went back to playing quake live, i played this game back when its a browser game.

Watched this game live as it happened. It was insane!

impressive game, I'm grateful I watched it

Some crazy match. Happy for my compatriot

I remember that. What a match. Truly peak arena fps. 🤩

And QuakeLive ended that day, with a bang.

The LAST good QuakeCon actualy

I had completely forgotten evil won the big match

I remember watching this LIVE! ToxJ vs Cypher Aerowalk is also up there for me. Mostly because of how Cypher just unlocks.

I love Arena Shooters. They are so fun and fast. I wish they were as popular as before

As someone who doesnt really watch e-sports this was entertaining to watch!

God remember watching this live in astonishment and if I remember so 20k viewers

I have watched the original four times.

And i won rapha at ESWC masters of Paris in Quake :d Gosh.. long time ago :D and i won 2:1 in group stage ;P

@matroksu

10 ай бұрын

@@3dvisions yep thats me

Never forget what they took from you.

There are countless amazing moments across many games but to me this will always be the greatest esports match ever. Rapha is truly an underrated fps god, if quake were bigger he would be one the biggest names in esports.

Remember this game brilliant

really cool vid :)

amazing video

I don't even know what quake is but good video, I watched the entire thing

If there is one game that I have to choose to play all life that would be Quake.

Best game ever! I don't know how many times i watched it... xD

funny i used to play quake games as evil although i never played quake champions. there were too many evil's at one point so i switched to evilx13

yeah, I watch this QC online, greate game!

Great vid new sub

good old days.

QuakeChampions got too havy visual component for such gameplay so QuakeLive and Quake 3 Arena OSP is better.

@kevinmischker3592

9 ай бұрын

osp

Great video. Watching this match from time to time! Whats the last music piece used in your video btw?

@xBioTV

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Thanks for watching, and I'm glad you enjoyed! The final song is: We're Finally Landing by HOME.

Siempre me han gustado estos dos jugadores; por el espectaculo que entregan, técnica y pasión. Pero mi favorito siempre será Cypher. Jajaj ♥

@xBioTV

Жыл бұрын

Lo siento por el mal español, estoy usando el traductor de Google en este momento. ¡Me alegro de que hayas disfrutado el vídeo! Cypher definitivamente está ahí para mí, pero mi mejor elección de todos los tiempos sería Strenx o Avek.

Queue the Summoning Salt music

what you dont show the last map

Rapha the GOAT

4:23 -- incorrect reasoning. The 1-map lead would be because that's how tournaments with Winner Brackets and Loser Brackets work, usually: Whoever makes it to the Grand Final through the Winner Bracket starts with a 1-map lead. This just *IS* , regardless of whether he has dropped maps on his path or not. .

One of the most skilled game ever. So sad that Quake is dead. Dont know how it was possible.

Mario Kart Rainbow Road happy happy music for Quake..? Jesus Christ

Quake live?

bullseyeing rocket launchers, jesus how

When it pays to have no life.

Rapha just won the world championship. And Rapha isn't "one of the best", he's THE BEST quake player of all time. It's not close.

Dominance? Rapha and cypher traded blows with cypher even beating him when they finally met in a major tournament at dreamhack. Im surprised you completely forgot to mention their rivalry, it was much stronger than rapha vs evils.

@xBioTV

Жыл бұрын

Sorry for the late reply, definitely something I should have at least mentioned but I really wanted to focus on why this was such an important map in QL history. I really do want to revisit some earlier matches of Rapha and others who climbed to the top of Quake.

@BOZ_11

Жыл бұрын

yep, cypher was arguably 1% better than rapha in QL, though rapha continued winning quakecons in cypher's absence (cypher stopped competing after winning quakecon 2014)

What? They played Furious Heights last. Evil didn't "tie" on the last map.

Even though QC is new and better looking this game just feels better to play imo.

when the power in the arena went out, then the lights came back on and both players were still at it? but Evil had made a significant comeback in the moments audience couldn't watch . Was that some kind of elaborate cheat? did the PCs not run on electricity? wtf

honestly, as much as I enjoyed BOTH the games AND the commentary you did here (amazing job, btw !!), part of me is partially convinced that they had pre-arranged it in some way... After all, it was THE LAST ql big-money / big-name tournament, and the chance HAD to be taken for this to be made as amazing, exciting and memorable as possible !! Of course, these 2 are the best players in the world, but I doubt that anyone watching / following would have been especially excited to see a straight 3-0 sweep by any side. Therefore, the organizers / players HAD to make it memorable in some way... My 2 cents. :P .

@devshure3916

6 ай бұрын

No just no. Rapha tried a lot.. Quake is just go big or go home, and those two was the best players at those times, anyway wondering where was cooller.

Enjoyable all the way through, i recommend trying to not sound like you're reading a script

WHAT IS THIS DAAAAAAN!!?!?!?! :D Zoot (c).

cool wtf

I just want to suggest you, the uploader of the video, to do something with the thumbnail, so more people click it, because I got this video like 20 times on my KZread start page, so probably a lot other people got it as well, but I did not get the urge to watch it, however I might be interested in it, I just don't know yet. Didn't watch the video so far, but it's in my watch later list. 😉

@xBioTV

9 ай бұрын

lmao yea, I've never particularly been good at making thumbnails, and much less so enticing ones without making them clickbait-y. I do appreciate the feedback. it's really something I've thought long about and I did have plans to remake pretty much all my public videos thumbnails for at least some practice!

WHERE IS RAPHA !!!

This game was doa on launch. I'm surprised it even had a competitive scene. I guess the 10 guys that played it had a tourney 😂

Playing this game at the competitive level takes skill. Unlike CoD.

Evil being defensive player? Bullshit at its finest.

@xBioTV

2 жыл бұрын

Hey man, thanks for commenting something that has been pointed out already and corrected down below! Thanks for the engagement though!

Very cool. As a non Quake player however, I find the rules they use very weird. Coming from other arena FPS I believe that a tie on a map should just end in a tie and go to a new map. Having players play a single map for 28 minutes when they've just come out of another map is crazy. As someone that's played competitive FPS at a high level at tournaments a 15 minute match was incredibly mentally taxing after a few rounds with very small breaks in between. I can't imagine having to expand such a high stakes game to almost half an hour. Also, not having proper double elimination is a MASSIVE FAIL. The reason you have loser bracket finals and winner bracket finals is to ensure the player/team that wins the grand final WINS THE MOST AMOUNT OF OVERALL GAMES AGAINST THEIR OPPONENT. Giving a player just a single map lead is ridiculous because then you can have situations where a player/team wins a grand final, yet actually wins LESS GAMES overall than their opponent, they just happen to win the "right" games. Every match should count, so the winner should carry across ALL their wins. MLG perfected video game tournament structure in the mid 2000's. Anyone doing any other tournament structure is objectively and MATHEMATICALLY WRONG. In the end Evil wins 2 matches and Rapha wins 4, yet Evil is the champion? Even a toddler knows this makes literally zero sense. So sick of tournament organizers failing grade school maths and ruining tournaments.

@muhammadredhaahmadrazif6409

2 ай бұрын

Huh? EVIL didn't win though. He won the map but he lost the tournament to rapha. Lol.

best map and final ever. rapha is a lucker

I have never really liked the rules of OT in Quake. Is there a reason why the rules are not sudden death OT in these tournaments?

@xBioTV

2 жыл бұрын

Its part of the legacy, but its not so much sudden death rather you get 2 minutes to get the higher amount of kills :]

@miguelpereira9859

2 жыл бұрын

Because Sudden Death sucks balls?

The commentating and music in the video almost gave me cancer. But i prevailed and muted the video. then regretted unmuting, after.

@xBioTV

8 ай бұрын

should probably get on chemo if it was that bad

А ведь Эвил мог выйграть, там такой ппц был конечно(((

потом гляну

Evil красавчик)

I thought Cypher was the best player in quake live, isn't he?

@EdwardCletusKasidy

6 ай бұрын

It's a tossup between Rapha and Cypher. Not Evil though.

8:06 -- that was really noobish. Must have been fatigue... probably? :O I take it that this entire tournament took place over the course of just one day? If yes, then I understand. If not -- man, the playing quality of skill has really dropped for arena FPS-es... :/ .

@papayer

9 ай бұрын

Rapha plays unpredictably.

@kurzackd

9 ай бұрын

@@papayer or... Evil just *SUСКЕD* at that particular moment... :Р

2 Seconds...

Why kill this game? Nothing comes close to Quake3...except maybe Quake1.

"They weren't just professional QL players, they were some of the best duellers on the planet". Literally no difference... There's like 10 paid players, all are top duellers.

it was a great duel, but i think if anything it just showed what a bad and flawed map that is haha. Their game on sinister in the same series was alot more exciting imo.

xD

Compare juggernaut multiplayer games like quake 3 and UT99 with the junk people play these days.

dude slowly walks up and shoots him with a rocket "HOW HOW HOW?!?!? |--| (__) \|\/ "

Evil's aim lol.... so insane.

cypher and rapha are best quake live players. Not Evil.

t is not the best game, there are many good games, the good thing is that each game is not the same, they are all special

He lost so it doesn't matter

Agree this was a best QC ever. I watched this live.