The Great Pyramid’s Niche of Secrets

We are fortunate that many explorers from the past have documented their exploration of the Great Pyramid of Giza. The monument has changed greatly over time, with many critical parts broken, relocated, and renovated or replaced.
The ‘Queen’s Chamber’ of the Great Pyramid is particularly difficult to understand because it has been subjected to the most damage from visitors. Recently new testimonies from 1837 have come to light which provide critical evidence to understanding if a sarcophagus is missing from within it.
The entirely unique niche on the chamber’s eastern wall has taunted investigators since before written records. Why is there? What secrets might it hold? The interpretations of explorers have caused tunnels to be dug through it and beneath it. These excavations have accidentally given us critical information to understanding the Queen’s Chamber beyond hunting for a missing tomb.
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0:00 Intro
1:25 Historical sources
2:22 New testimonies from 1837
3:11 Deceptive descriptions
4:12 Howard Vyse's character
6:06 Queen's Chamber sarcophagus
7:20 Giovanni Caviglia's digging
10:03 19th Century priorities
10:55 Sarcophagus description
12:25 Misidentifications
14:01 Unsolved Niche mysteries
17:05 Queen's Chamber photos

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  • @AncientArchitects
    @AncientArchitects Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic work. Great research as is always the case with your channel. Was great working with you on this. 👍

  • @ravevolution2

    @ravevolution2

    Жыл бұрын

    Amazing collaborations between these 2 channels! Keep up the good work 💯

  • @benthilwind6908

    @benthilwind6908

    Жыл бұрын

    Both of you smashing it

  • @stalker-anoniem3515

    @stalker-anoniem3515

    Жыл бұрын

    He's even better than you! Very elaborate, descriptive and precise.

  • @stalker-anoniem3515

    @stalker-anoniem3515

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ravevolution2 that doesn't make sense. This channel only uploads concrete evidence and proof whilst ancient architects uploads mainly hypothesis and theories.🤷‍♂️

  • @danieldorsz1047

    @danieldorsz1047

    Жыл бұрын

    @@stalker-anoniem3515 hello you look looney want a sandwich?

  • @Gainn
    @Gainn Жыл бұрын

    After doing some digging around, it turns out that Vyse's unpublished papers are at the Ashmolean and his notes and some small finds are still stored (unchecked!) by the British Museum in their main archive. Trying to get the Petrie Museum interested in going through his archive because some of the finds are listed as 'unidentified ceramics'.

  • @laurah1020

    @laurah1020

    Жыл бұрын

    This info seems pretty important...something to be actively by "experts" in the field...what's up with the lack of interest? is it simply labeling? Makes no sense to me...

  • @Gainn

    @Gainn

    Жыл бұрын

    @@laurah1020 It's mostly a matter of time and money. They have projects that get them funding which will always come before things that are just 'interesting'. They no longer have the fabulously rich patrons that previous generations could milk for large sums of cash. That and the fact that there are literally millions of documents and finds that have been catalogued and stored. You'd need an army of eagle-eyed researchers just to dent the backlog.

  • @scott2296

    @scott2296

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Gainn The problem with that excuse is that the worthless pieces of shit never figure much out, everything is a mystery to the "experts".

  • @seize2581

    @seize2581

    Жыл бұрын

    @@v4skunk739 Yup, totally right, the little green men from Venus did. 🙃

  • @maquettemusic1623

    @maquettemusic1623

    Жыл бұрын

    @@v4skunk739 Okay. So where's your proof?

  • @mathisurien4031
    @mathisurien4031 Жыл бұрын

    my head-canon explaination for the sand is as follows. if you wanted to make a tomb as hard to break into as possible then you would want to surround and fill it with substances that are resistant to digging, while something like granite resists digging through it by being really strong and hard, sand is different. sand resists digging by being really loose and constantly flowing back down into the hole filling itself back in, if you don't sure up the sides then it's impossible to dig deep into sand. in short sand resists digging by being really annoying as opposed to being tough. for this reason i believe the sand was added and used to fill corridors as a mild form of defence to prevent digging. it would be really hard to remove requiring hundred or thousands of buckets being carried up through small corridors to do so but putting in in place would be easy as you could just pour it down the entrance and let the slope of the tunnels do the work. it could also explain the small chutes to nowhere inside the chambers.

  • @coreykoepsel

    @coreykoepsel

    Жыл бұрын

    It's not a tomb

  • @rooktheradical1

    @rooktheradical1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@coreykoepsel Anyone who tries to insist it's a tomb, is living in a fantasy world.

  • @JoelRSmith

    @JoelRSmith

    Жыл бұрын

    Sand is better than nothing but that's it. Get 100 guys with buckets and they would have a passage plugged with sand excavated in no time. Now try doing the same thing when the corridor is filled with limestone blocks...now you can only use a few guys and they have slowly destroy their way in block by block...

  • @mathisurien4031

    @mathisurien4031

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JoelRSmith whether its stone or sand you'd still only get 1 person at a time digging due to the narrowness of the passageways. two people can't pass each other so they'd have to form a chain. with buckets going each way, empty one way full the other, that would be really awkward in such close confines. then consider the slope and the sheer volume that would need to be moved. it would be a very laborious process digging through yard after yard of sand.

  • @BEDLAMITE-5280ft.

    @BEDLAMITE-5280ft.

    Жыл бұрын

    Your on drugs.

  • @FZMello
    @FZMello Жыл бұрын

    When I look at the niche in the Queen's Chamber, specifically how it's asymmetrical with respect to the wall it's in, I get the feeling that this fact is a clue to something just out of reach. It's quite easy to see how those with an exploratory itch find this room so interesting.

  • @bluerendar2194

    @bluerendar2194

    6 ай бұрын

    A proper engineering or architectural study of its purpose, informed by culture and history, would probably be the best place to start. After all, significant blind excavation has already turned up nothing of note. The lack of study into such structures given the simplicity it would be with modern techniques is, to me, an astonishing blind spot. One really does wonder why so little such scrutiny is done, or perhaps, allowed.

  • @Primatron
    @Primatron Жыл бұрын

    I'm so glad people have started doing independent research into the pyramids with thorough observation skills, because waiting for mainstream media to ever present the truth is a lost cause. This channel is incredible. Thanks for all these brilliant vids. 🎯

  • @charlesjmouse
    @charlesjmouse Жыл бұрын

    It's human nature that one of the hardest things any of us can do is to not be blinded by a fond belief, even when there is contrary evidence. You want to find evidence of a sarcophagus in the queen's chamber and yet in all honesty you had to accept these accounts are not it. Many would not accept that. Thank you for another excellent video.

  • @66holt

    @66holt

    Жыл бұрын

    please look at inticate carvings in granite on LUXOR OBELISK , please explain ?

  • @jek__

    @jek__

    Жыл бұрын

    I think being proven wrong or right is equally exciting. Both are the same step toward the truth. So called disappointing explanations are fun because they are the closest we can determine to what is really there

  • @mortalclown3812

    @mortalclown3812

    Жыл бұрын

    I just love the phrase, 'blinded by a fond belief'. That crosses time, miles and every mindset.

  • @adriangstern
    @adriangstern11 ай бұрын

    I really like the theory that all three chambers in the pyramid were meant for the pharoah and represent different stages of the building project enabling him to have a burial chamber ready in case he died before the work was finished. So there should not have been sarcophagi in either the "Queen's" chamber or the subterranean one - as no-one was ever buried in them

  • @edgarsnake2857
    @edgarsnake2857 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks to HFG and Matt at AA for continuing to bring new info and insight into the mysteries of ancient Egypt. The excitement and wonder of my trip there 30 years ago gets rekindled each time I see a new video on the subject.

  • @AbandonAllArt
    @AbandonAllArt Жыл бұрын

    My favorite channel on KZread, and the only one that I let bother my phone with notifications! Thanks for making these

  • @nomadscavenger

    @nomadscavenger

    Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely mine, too. No. 1 so far! Wish he would do videos a little more often, but can imagine the amount of work going into each one makes that too difficult. I learn something new w/every one. 🌞🌻

  • @Anyextee

    @Anyextee

    Жыл бұрын

    One of my favorites on KZread! Such a great video.

  • @williamglidden7461
    @williamglidden7461 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for doing these videos, HFG. Always good to get fresh, well-researched takes on these monuments. Should be more of it!

  • @bswins9648
    @bswins9648 Жыл бұрын

    Been waiting for a new video since watching the Ancient Architects collaboration. Loved both. Laughed when you stated ‘if you’re one of the few who haven’t watched that video”. You know your fans/subs well. I’m sure a majority of us had seen it. Looking forward to your next installment. 😊

  • @0Gematria0
    @0Gematria08 ай бұрын

    I love how collaborative you and Ancient Architects are. You and Matt are so wonderful and insightful

  • @robertbrummayer4908
    @robertbrummayer4908 Жыл бұрын

    Man, your videos are awesome. It is great that you and Matt have worked together. I would love to see more collaborations in the future. Greetings from Austria.

  • @AncientPuzzles
    @AncientPuzzles Жыл бұрын

    You and Matt did a really good job. Looking forward to the special video. Thank you!

  • @anthonyarashnia1934
    @anthonyarashnia1934 Жыл бұрын

    I love ancient Architects and your Channel. As they are my two favorite channels to watch. You guys always put up awesome content keep up the great work!

  • @Sevenigma777
    @Sevenigma77710 ай бұрын

    Its so awesome to know that discussions between you and Ancient Architects exist and theres comradeship between you both especially on this cutthroat platform where everyone is fighting for views and channels that specialize in similar topics are more often competing than collaborating. If only all these young content creators knew that working together and building up others just increases the overall audience and will work in your favor too

  • @legitbeans9078

    @legitbeans9078

    8 ай бұрын

    Gay

  • @NeilCrouse99
    @NeilCrouse99 Жыл бұрын

    This channel is so good, it can only be of others not yet discovering this treasure trove of information. I was led here through "Ancient Architects" channel, another fantastic channel on its own.

  • @hughholt121
    @hughholt121 Жыл бұрын

    At 8:20" Caviglia was always off digging in Mummy pits" . The Queen's sarcophagus was in the niche sitting on the granite or marble block and the treasure hunter brain of Caviglia figured the treasure she had was behind the sarcophagus so he destroyed it to find her treasure and left the ruble . Sometime around 1817.

  • @phillipdyson2689
    @phillipdyson2689 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for yet another wonderful video. Your knowledge is exceptional but more importantly giving people time to view the Ancient Architects video 1st tells me that you are also a very exceptional human. I look forward to future videos.

  • @the.bronze
    @the.bronze Жыл бұрын

    Another wonderfully researched, captivating and informative video. I always look forward to new material from you. Keep up the awesome work 👍

  • @sc0rpio79
    @sc0rpio79 Жыл бұрын

    I'm skeptical of this conclusion. It feels like more of a leap to me to say that someone could misconstrue the lack of a box for a box. I think it's pretty well understood, generally, what a sarcophagus is when that term is used. There's no reason to use that term otherwise. I'm not saying there was one and I'm not saying there wasn't, but to even lean toward "there wasn't" based on this explanation is a mistake imo. I don't buy the "knocking on the wall makes an echo in the tunnel" being the same as the sound created by knocking on a hollow box either-- two different acoustic experiences. An echo is not the same as a hollow thud.

  • @oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368
    @oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 Жыл бұрын

    What I'd like to see is a video on what the pyramid(s) is/are _not._ Sort of a mythbusting list. Like it's _not_ a grain storage silo (Ben Carson). It's _not_ an alien beacon. It's _not_ a giant sundial. There's a lot of theories about what the pyramids were used for and I think debunking them is a good starting point for layfolk like me who don't know if it was a make-work project to keep a restless population employed, a vanity project for kings, a temple to the gods, a celestial calendar, a tomb, or something to impress visiting dignitaries.

  • @ClickClack_Bam

    @ClickClack_Bam

    Жыл бұрын

    I hate the current info going around about the pyramids. Aliens & a FUCKIN electric power plant is insulting to maintain.

  • @paulroberts7429
    @paulroberts7429 Жыл бұрын

    To be fair to dormion i see hawass on discovery talking in red pyramid and he states that when he is alone there is a draft of air coming from a separate source than entrance, he states it needs to be investigated, that was a few years ago(around time he broke his foot in Osiris shaft) i only remember i went to his website 2 weeks after to see if he updated but nothing, he also champions that khufu is hidden somewhere in his pyramid.

  • @lmonk9517

    @lmonk9517

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't think that Khufu is hidden in the pyramid but hidden chambers, perhaps filled with burial goods might be. The thing about a body is that it has to be brought into the pyramid after death so any chamber that the body is laid to rest in has to be easily accessible for the funeral procession. Removing blocks, relaiding floors and all that seems unlikely.

  • @paulroberts7429

    @paulroberts7429

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@lmonk9517 I hope khufu his hidden and he beat tomb robbers and archeologists for eternal peace.

  • @BaMenace
    @BaMenace Жыл бұрын

    Love both ancient architects and your channel of granite. Both using the same shared information, you haven't copied each other's approach explaining to the public making both your videos refreshing

  • @williamspencer6831

    @williamspencer6831

    Жыл бұрын

    The Moses who was trained in all the knowledge of ancient Egypt called the location of the pyramid as the border and center of Egypt

  • @johanschulmaijer5976
    @johanschulmaijer5976 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, you are a great detective, your precision is what is needed in further discoveries.

  • @frankfooter6531
    @frankfooter6531 Жыл бұрын

    Love your videos, I feel like its hard to watch videos about stuff like this that are level headed like yours.

  • @baysideauto
    @baysideauto Жыл бұрын

    Love your videos, your work is wonderful. Been watching Matt awhile now such a wealth of knowledge. Thanks

  • @basile1286
    @basile1286 Жыл бұрын

    thank you so very much for sharing your knowledge in such a thorough, enlightening and entertaining manner.

  • @StephiSensei26
    @StephiSensei26 Жыл бұрын

    It is already clear to me, that any further praise of your channel, and Matt's AA's channel, would be superfluous and redundant. However, both of you do deserve high praise for your intelligent analyses, respect for one another's work and recent collaboration. Bravo. This is to everyone's benefit. We "Happy Amateurs" are indebted to the both of you.

  • @jeffjeff4477
    @jeffjeff4477 Жыл бұрын

    Great channel!!! So interesting, and the delivery of information with clarity and insight is really wonderful Thank You

  • @breakfromlife5095
    @breakfromlife5095Ай бұрын

    I love you and your work. You and Matt are amazing. This is like my 7th watch through on this but I saw something new at 15:39. Regardless of what happened behind it, those right angles are polished and finished. But also undamaged, as if they knew where to dig

  • @seaarcher4476
    @seaarcher4476 Жыл бұрын

    I think you might be right with the sarcophagus theory. When looking at the niche with the tunnel visible, well, it look more like a tunnel than a sarcophagus. But on the old photos, half filled with sand and stones, it looks much more like a ( not fully excavated) sarcophagus than I expected. Since both reports you mentioned, were written during Vyse's excavation work in front of the niche, it is likely, that some debris would have been deposited inside the tunnel and after the backfill, left there.

  • @HenryLoenwind

    @HenryLoenwind

    Жыл бұрын

    As the report shown in the video describes how the writer crawled into the corridor until it became too narrow to advance (30 ft, if I remember correctly), I find that explanation unlikely.

  • @simonbrogden9994
    @simonbrogden9994 Жыл бұрын

    A brilliant video mate ! Please do more often. Good work.

  • @svetovidarkonsky1670
    @svetovidarkonsky1670 Жыл бұрын

    Watched both your video and Ancient Architects, and both excellent. Thank you.

  • @richardearnshaw2719
    @richardearnshaw2719 Жыл бұрын

    For me the opening shots of the bus entering the site made the whole thing REAL. I won't ever visit - my mental illness will never let me - so I am ever grateful! It may sound very strange to most people but this is the difference between a huge disappointment in my life or me actually being able to imagine and most likely being able to dream of being there. Thankfully I DO have very rich dreams BUT I can't dream of things that are too much removed from my own experiences - I think the bus ought to do it 🙄🙂👍🙏

  • @panchopuskas1
    @panchopuskas1 Жыл бұрын

    What great videos. Just when I thought everything had been said on the subject of ancient Egypt and Giza.....along come your videos to make us think again.....

  • @roberthigbee3260
    @roberthigbee3260 Жыл бұрын

    Very nice video, thanks! Sarcophagus, from the Greek, means “flesh eating”, according to the American Heritage Dictionary. And when used in the context of a stone burial box, it means a type of stone that will hasten the decomposition of corpses. Roman historian Pliny the Elder says that the best sarcophagus stone in use in his day could “consume” a corpse in as little as 40 days. My guess is that reducing graveyard smell was the main motivation. Therefore, it does not necessarily refer to a box shaped stone object, but to any stone enclosure you’d put a dead body into. Egyptians, being obsessed with preserving the mortal remains, would naturally be repulsed by we moderns referring to their stone burial boxes as sarcophagi. So, and in line with your theory, your early 1800s dudes, being closer to the origins of the word “sarcophagus”, could have easily thought of both the box in the King’s chamber and the Queen’s chamber niche as sarcophagi. On the other hand, there may be some rich dude, even as I write this, smiling and gently patting the Queen’s chamber box-like sarcophagus in his secret lair. A Queen’s sarcophagus would naturally be smaller, because it’s for a female and would be of a size that could fit inside of the short original tunnel at the back of the niche and would not be elaborated upon too greatly by its discoverer since they, or parties soon after them, hauled it up and out in the dead of night to be sold on the black market.

  • @conniebenny
    @conniebenny Жыл бұрын

    Another fascinating video. Thank you for continuing to make these.

  • @rumblewolf2999
    @rumblewolf2999 Жыл бұрын

    Discovered your channel on my own, but glad to see you know Matt. You guys really give the feeling the WE (meaning you, Matt AND the fans of your channels) will get to the bottom of these long thought questions. Kudos.

  • @juniorballs6025
    @juniorballs6025 Жыл бұрын

    I needed this today, feeling full of cold. Thanks very much!!!

  • @warlike2417
    @warlike2417 Жыл бұрын

    Your vids are top notch buddy. Well researched and your manner makes them easily digestible. I hope success finds you.Keep up the good work.

  • @Pauly421
    @Pauly421 Жыл бұрын

    I love the not so subtle derisiveness with which you always say "The Definitive History" always puts a smile on my face haha. Another great video 👊

  • @Grundlesmith
    @Grundlesmith Жыл бұрын

    This is a great channel, keep up the good work, your opinions are really interesting

  • @jacquesdesjardins6729
    @jacquesdesjardins6729 Жыл бұрын

    Another great analysis. Good work, can't wait for the next video.

  • @XtrovertedHermit
    @XtrovertedHermit Жыл бұрын

    marvelous to have 2 enthusiastic youtuber researchers with there own specialties to draw on. Always enjoy your precise presentations, so i dont want to take your personality for granite.

  • @Itsjustme-Justme
    @Itsjustme-Justme Жыл бұрын

    In the old photos, with all that rubble in it, the visible part of the square cavity inside the niche looks even more like a sacrophagus than it does today.

  • @realfranny3483
    @realfranny3483 Жыл бұрын

    I read the page with Viscino's description that you show at 11:00 and as a native german speaker I think that it is very unlikely that what Viscino describes there is what we see today. Let me explain why. 1.) Viscino writes that the sarcophagus is "standing (!) on (!) the eastern wall, largely (!) in the same". If he was refering to the square cavity, this choice of words would be very crude and make little sense. The square cavity is not "on" but "in" the eastern wall and not "largely" but completly and the cavity is not "standing" at all. If he meant the cavity, you would expect a description along the line of "a sarcophagus was carved into the wall". 2.) Why would he assume that the cavity is a sarcophagus? The sarcophagus in the King's chamber is very clearly a sarcophagus, but while the square cavity could potentially be closed and used to store a corpse, it is far from obvious that this was the case and he would indulge in speculation there which does not seem to be in line with the rest of his purely descriptive text. 3.) His description of the sarcophagus as "standing somewhat smaller [...] open, empty, simple" refers back to the sarcophagus that he had seen in the King's Chamber before. Note that in this case the words "standing open, empty, simple" make perfect sense and are a very clear description of what we see in the King's chamber today. So when we take this context into account, the most likely interpretation of his words is that the sarcophagus in the Queen's Chamber is just like the one in the King's chamber except that it is "somewhat smaller" and standing largely inside a niche. But if he was refering to the square cavity assuming that this cavity was used as a sarcophagus, then comparing this sarcophagus to the one in King's chamber without mentioning the huge differences between these two completly different kinds of sarcophagi seems very strange and unlikely. 4.) The last paragraph of the page begins with "Above (!) the sarcophagus a shaft leads into the eastern wall." If he saw the square cavity as the sarcophagus, this description would make no sense. What he would have written in this case would be something like "behind the sarcophagus" or "at the other end of the sarcophagus". 5.) If he saw not the the square cavity itself as the sarcophagus, but the floor of the cavity as the lid of a sarcophagus, he could not have written that the sarcophagus was empty. To sum up, for your interpretation to make sense, you have to assume that Viscino's account is very crude, unprecise and speculative, and that assumption does not seem to be in line with the rest of his text. Edit: 6.) The kind of tomb that you think Viscino saw is called "Backofengrab" ("oven grave") in German and would never be called a sarcophagus, especially not by a priest. A sarcophagus is always a (at least potentially) free standing stone box.

  • @HistoryforGRANITE

    @HistoryforGRANITE

    Жыл бұрын

    I appreciate your analysis, and here's a few things to consider. 1) Visino is not writing this as he looks at it directly. It's from memory some time later, and no doubt the poor illumination did not help. 2) The tunnel is 'above' the sarcophagus if you interpret the rough chisel marks as tunneling distinct from the box itself. Most of the squared limestone does become the tunnel, - but the section that appears non-original to the pyramid is above the 'sarcophagus'. 3) It's common for people to adopt nomenclature they wouldn't normally use to describe something foreign. If someone tells you pharaohs are buried in a sarcophagus - you call it a sarcophagus even if it's not how you would usually describe it. 4) If there was a real free-standing sarcophagus, they way Visino describes it puts in the most awkward spot possible. It would have to be precariously set over the hole being dug in the floor - why would Vyse put it there? It doesn't disguise the hole (since Visino had a good look inside). It's just in the way and hazardous to people and the sarcophagus itself.

  • @realfranny3483

    @realfranny3483

    Жыл бұрын

    @@HistoryforGRANITE So Visino's book is a collection of letters that he wrote to another priest. I read the full 5th letter on Google Books and the more I read the more interesting this story becomes to me. The letter is dated with "Cairo, the 30th of March" and apparently his visit to the pyramids took place only three days earlier. So his memory must be fresh and given the amount of numbers he includes in his account like his counting of the stone courses, the dimensions of rooms and corridors and the exact dimensions of the coffin in the King's Chamber, I think it is fair to assume that he must have taken notes while he was on site. In his letter he also describes how he entered the "shaft above the coffin" in the Queen's Chamber, how he crawls through it and how he retreats backwards with his gun drawn when he meets "something living" in there, obviously refering to some kind of animal. So given the fact that according to this diagram upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8e/Chambre-reine-kheops.jpg what you call the "square cavity" is about 4 meters long before it becomes a "forced passage" and given the fact that Visino did crawl through it, I really do not see how he could identify any part of this structure as a "somewhat smaller coffin" that "stands" "on the eastern wall". The only thing that would make remotely sense is if he called the part that is called "recess" on the diagram shown at 11:28 a "coffin". The width of the recess might fit his description and the height might fit as well if you assume that the lid was flush with the floor of the square cavity, which in that case would be described correctly as being "a shaft above the coffin". But in my view the problem with this interpretation is simply that this recess is obviously just that. It is a niche into which a coffin could be placed, but to call it a "coffin" really bends the words. And if he refered with "coffin" to this recess, what does his remark that the coffin is "largely inside the wall" mean? By definition the recess is fully inside the wall. My point is that I see no need to bend Visino's words like this when there is a way more likely interpretation available, being that he is simply saying there stands a "real" coffin inside the niche of the Queen's Chamber and that this coffin protrudes a bit out of the niche and that Vise is digging beneath it. To be clear, I am not saying that this coffin in the Queen's chamber must have existed. I am entirely prepared to dismiss this part of Visino's account as plainly wrong. Maybe he just strongly assumed that there once must have been a coffin inside the niche and he made up the present existence of this coffin to strenghten his hypothesis that the pyramids were nothing else but tombs. I am purely looking at his account from a hermeneutical perspective and to me it seems quite clear what he is saying and that he is indeed talking about a "real" coffin and not some niche or cavity that he calls "coffin" for whatever reason.

  • @mikecassidy1623

    @mikecassidy1623

    Жыл бұрын

    @@realfranny3483Perfectly put. Plus wouldn't the logical conclusion or question be that Vyse stole the box and shipped it to a buyer?

  • @realfranny3483

    @realfranny3483

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mikecassidy1623 I am not an expert, but the main problem with a box or coffin in the Queen's Chamber is I think that Caviglia cleared it in 1816 from rubbel and found nothing. So if Vyse found a coffin, he must have found it inside the hole that he was digging. Maybe he had just recently lifted the coffin out of that hole when Viscino arrived? Viscino does mention the hole, he does mention that it is empty and that it sounds hollow, but if the sarcophagus had recently come out of there, I would expect him to have noticed and mentioned that somehow.

  • @HistoryforGRANITE

    @HistoryforGRANITE

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you again for digging deeper, and it's true that parsing words from so long ago can be maddening. Certainly Visino's words are not a perfect match to the niche cavity - but for me the similarities outweigh the differences. If one assumed a Queen's Chamber sarcophagus would be analogous to its chamber the way the King's Chamber sarcophagus is (granite box, granite room), then you'd expect it to be a bit smaller, made of limestone etc. But since Prince Kawab (Khufu's son) had a large granite sarcophagus - surely an original Queen's Chamber one is unlikely to have been smaller and made of limestone. It's another example of making a logical interpretation that happens to be inaccurate.

  • @veeanon7231
    @veeanon7231 Жыл бұрын

    Imho it looks as if the second sarcophagus was turned upside down and put in the excavation hole ( this would account for the discrepancy in depth ) in order that if anyone say the prince came along and re opened the excavation the bottom of the sarcophagus would appear to be a soild block therfore making it look like he was telling the truth this would also explain the large amount of rubble left over in the picture reportedly taken shortly after !

  • @Yeet_Sir
    @Yeet_Sir Жыл бұрын

    I love your content! Thank you for making more! :)

  • @J.Burrough
    @J.Burrough Жыл бұрын

    Sure would like to hear your thoughts on The Queens Chamber, sand and other anomalies/finds your saving for a future presentation. Perhaps you may leave add that to the heading of your future disclosures (?). Thanks man

  • @JonnoPlays
    @JonnoPlays Жыл бұрын

    I've been waiting with bated breath for this episode!

  • @mickleblade
    @mickleblade Жыл бұрын

    Ah !, I'd forgotten that older explorers would have been using oil lamps/candles etc, we're so used to led flood lamps illuminating everything perfectly. Great point.

  • @nv1493
    @nv1493 Жыл бұрын

    The objective analysis of this channel is stunningly good.

  • @dropnoelfield295
    @dropnoelfield295 Жыл бұрын

    Mat from ancient architects recommends you, so... 🖐 hello. Good stuff. I've liked what I've seen so far and expect to view more quality content as time moves forward. Thanks mate

  • @sigrice
    @sigrice11 күн бұрын

    Can't wait to see new episodes!

  • @robynstephens166
    @robynstephens166 Жыл бұрын

    What, wait, at 1:36 people carried tables and chairs up there! I would have trouble carrying myself up to the top. But what a picnic that would of been, lucky ducks I have never been there and all I have to compare the great Pyramid to is The Sydney Harbour bridge which I have been to the top of its mighty arch many times(for a while the biggest steel arch bridge in the world) and that is an engineering marvel to see from the top and I am mighty proud my fellow countryman built and about the same height as the great Pyramid and that huge stack of stone was built 45 centuries ago, so they tell us. Amazing, stupendous just WOW BTW, I have watched a lot of this stuff and this this perhaps the best presentation of all. You ask questions without answers and that is beauty of it. Another thing. you mentioned around 2:42 that they are, in my words keeping things close to their chest. Can you really blame them when over the centuries their heritage was plundered. The British Museum would be the last plunders. Now I wait to be told that the Egyptians plundered from surrounding countries like Syria all those years ago.

  • @AD4K8
    @AD4K88 ай бұрын

    Such refreshing intellect on pyramid info, love it.

  • @pieinthesky4106
    @pieinthesky410621 күн бұрын

    Excellent and so informative.

  • @ruhepol
    @ruhepol Жыл бұрын

    Again an excellent analysis! Thank you for the effort you put into it. :)) There might be an additional explanation as to why the early explorers saw a sarcophagus in the structures. How boring is an empty queens chamber? So this structure has to be a sarcophagus for readers to be excited. We see the same principle in the media today. ;)

  • @johnconnor3781
    @johnconnor3781 Жыл бұрын

    "The sand could have been used to aid the moving of slabs -the slab sits on top of the sand -The sand is moved away and the slab lowers into place -apparently this was used under the Sphinx for the temples found there "

  • @benjaminwheeldon9853
    @benjaminwheeldon9853 Жыл бұрын

    Random question here - Are there any conclusions that can be drawn from the necessary lighting needs to see and measure the interior. For everything so precisely assembled, I doubt it could happen by torch light... Some things we truly don't understand their precision until using very modern means of measurements.

  • @davidc6510
    @davidc6510 Жыл бұрын

    interesting analysis. Thanks for sharing

  • @thefracker830
    @thefracker8309 ай бұрын

    The BEST Footage of the Pyramids I ever saw, Also VERY Interesting info Mate Your Brother from Downunder Peter

  • @MartinBettler
    @MartinBettler Жыл бұрын

    Excellent work, exciting to follow!

  • @petem7118
    @petem71183 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing some great information and research. Do you know if there has been any translations of the hieroglyphs that are inscribed on the top face of the exposed blocks that are visible at the top of the Great Pyramid ? I saw a short video of someone hang gliding over the top of the pyramid and the camera clearly captures those hieroglyphs, I tried searching for any further information but I have had no luck so far. Thank you again 🙏

  • @mmaximk
    @mmaximk Жыл бұрын

    Much appreciated. Another excellent video.

  • @HenryLoenwind
    @HenryLoenwind Жыл бұрын

    Here's the relevant part of the page shown at 11:00 translated to English: "Left of the entrance, at the eastern wall, mostly inside the same, stands the somewhat smaller coffin made from marble, open, empty, simple. Below it, there currently is being excavated, and already a marble-covered room was visible, which---when tapped---sounds hollow. Above the coffin, a low shaft leads into the eastern Wall. Holding the light in front of me, I crawled into it on my knees and elbows. After about 30 feet, it turned south. [bats] Now it went upward, initially wider, then so narrow that I only could crawl forward with great effort. It got very stuffy, the light burning more dimly; then something rolled [page break]"

  • @renesoucy3444
    @renesoucy3444 Жыл бұрын

    What I find intriguing is that the niche is offset from the roof center, quite bizarre for the love of symmetry that the pyramid builders usually show... It is also bizarre that the King chamber is also offset of the pyramid center, is this part of a pattern?

  • @HistoryforGRANITE

    @HistoryforGRANITE

    Жыл бұрын

    The pyramids are monuments to symmetry, and so every break in symmetry is worth thinking about. Some of these breaks definitely reveal intent. But some like the Niche are more difficult to analyze because there is nothing to compare them to.

  • @renesoucy3444

    @renesoucy3444

    Жыл бұрын

    I bet that the niche in the Queen’s chamber have the same offset from the room center that the King’s chamber’s offset from the pyramid center. I bet that those offset have the same meaning, they're related.

  • @Thulzor
    @Thulzor Жыл бұрын

    I've recently found your channel and I am binge watching. I have no prior knowledge other than the basics I were taught in school so all this is new to me. I didn't know there were discussions about coffins and such the only thing I've been hearing about now and then is about ramps. My only question about your conclusion is that he wrote that the coffin was open and empty. If he had seen a closed coffin it would fit your conclusion but could he really misstake that niche stone for an open and empty coffin?

  • @nonanarcisse8094
    @nonanarcisse8094 Жыл бұрын

    Pretty convinced Hawas is a real life cinematic villain; secreting away and gate keeping a great deal of Egypt’s history!!

  • @MURD3RWAVE
    @MURD3RWAVE Жыл бұрын

    When I look at it, I can almost see where a statue was. I can't prove a statue was there but I can easily imagine what it looked like if it was there. I just see how thin the space is top down. So doub crown, head, shoulders, sitting on throne, legs and a square base that prob had all his names and info. I def wish I could go back in time and take a look. I have a good feeling that the outside of the pyramid especially towards the bottom prob had a bunch of hieroglyphics on the casing stones explaining so many answers to questions we ask now. The Great Pyramid is my favorite thing on Earth.

  • @HistoryforGRANITE

    @HistoryforGRANITE

    Жыл бұрын

    There’s actually a lot of circumstantial evidence that a statue was not there. It looks like a nice place to put a statue, but it’s the exact opposite of how Egyptians used to place statuary around chambers.

  • @richief1957
    @richief1957 Жыл бұрын

    Another great vid bro!!

  • @joaquimfonseca2047
    @joaquimfonseca2047 Жыл бұрын

    EXCELENTES FOTOS DA ANTIGUIDADE DAS PIRAMIDES......

  • @laurah1020
    @laurah1020 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent analysis, as usual! Thank you for the time and efforts you put into these videos, in order that we don't take our history of granite lightly!! :) @12:26 there is a picture of the niche (left side) and an adjacent wall, (right of niche), at the cornering wall. It has a chunk of rock etched out of it. Were there "facing" stones lining the walls of the chamber, and one was removed, or is it a section of stone block randomly burrowed into, to a depth of 4-5 inches?? Have not seen any description, or discussion of this interesting anomaly in that area. Perhaps it is nothing..??

  • @HistoryforGRANITE

    @HistoryforGRANITE

    Жыл бұрын

    It's exploratory chiseling, I can't recall if a source for that damage is documented.

  • @TheFallingFlamingo
    @TheFallingFlamingo Жыл бұрын

    You could also conclude that European catacombs might have influenced an explorer's idea of what a sarcophagus was. Grave niches underground would not have been an unusual practice in their minds and the niche tunnel in the Queen's Chamber could have been seen as a similar style to other examples in Europe.

  • @HenryLoenwind

    @HenryLoenwind

    Жыл бұрын

    "Left of the entrance, at the eastern wall, mostly inside the same, stands the somewhat smaller coffin made from marble, open, empty, simple." I somehow doubt he'd have used "stands" and "coffin" if he was talking about a burial shelf.

  • @gazpal
    @gazpal Жыл бұрын

    Fascinating information 🙂

  • @spacemanmat
    @spacemanmat Жыл бұрын

    Given that the Kings Chamber has a reliving chamber on top of it. It could be that a similar such an structure exists below both chambers to support them? Indeed most internal diagrams of the pyramid do not show any internal structure other than a possible profile of the original bed rock. My thought with the sand is that perhaps the internal structure are also large granite slabs with similar voids, but the voids were filled with sand.

  • @tomrichardson1426
    @tomrichardson1426 Жыл бұрын

    This is great. I am just a novice or hobbyist, but I reall appreciate your chanel.

  • @RoxUniverse
    @RoxUniverse Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing your research! I look forward to your videos and am impressed with your work. I can’t remember what you thought the pyramids were built for and why the great pyramid has so many mathematical and scientific formulas built in? How old do you think Giza is? I love listening and learning what serious researchers think they are, when, and who built them. Looking forward to your next video! ⚡️🌎⚡️🐄🌔🌎⚡️

  • @patriciaoudart1508

    @patriciaoudart1508

    Жыл бұрын

    When you build something, everything is mathematical, for example to build a roof, I buy wood in four metters, but I have not so much choice to cut the wood, if I want two equal parts that's make 2 meters, four, 1 meter, but three parts makes 1.33 meter to have no loss. So you have the roof chosen in a way having no loss and you find always consequences of trigonometry, and of the initial choices you have made.an other example for angles, cycle is 360 degrees, the number of days in a year 12 x 30 days, in assyrian calendar, so this makes a link between days and angle. ''time is an angle'' as says an Astrophysicist friend .

  • @showbread9366

    @showbread9366

    Жыл бұрын

    @@patriciaoudart1508 rocks in head 😄🤷‍♂️

  • @maff2008
    @maff2008 Жыл бұрын

    Consider the kings chamber a burning room which can cause a vacuum in the rest of the pyramid. It has two vents from which you can expel the burnt fuel smoke and co2 or add more fuel as and when necessary. Consider the anti chamber and its adjustable granite door into the kings chamber as a means of controlling the vacuum in the rest of the pyramid. When the door is fully open and fuel is burned, the kings chamber is sucking the air out of grand gallery until a vacuum pressure exists. Consider the vacuum pressure enough to suck water up through the sub terrainian chamber, up the grand gallery and fills the queens chamber with water to the depth of the step. Consider that originally the design failed because water couldn't be sucked through the ascending passage and that design was plugged and the grotto shaft added which did work. Consider evidence of burning at the top of the grand galley in the form of two inches of carbon crud which was removed by the Egyptian state about ten years ago. Also consider soot removed from the kings chamber and anti chamber over a hundred years ago, Consider the ammonia salt deposits removed from the queens chamber passage walls by the Egyptian state more than ten years ago, in some places several inches thick and a constant smell of ammonia from within those salts indicating the presence of past chemical reactions. Consider asking yourself why the Egyptian state physically removed contemporary historical evidence from within a protected ancient monument. Consider why it was allowed. Until you know those answers, you'll never know what you are truely looking at because you only have half of the story.

  • @Gravitacionimanevar
    @Gravitacionimanevar Жыл бұрын

    Cheers bro, nice work!

  • @briandain8432
    @briandain8432 Жыл бұрын

    Ancient Architects is who recommended your wonderful channel.

  • @trimurthya149
    @trimurthya149 Жыл бұрын

    eagerly waiting for this. to watch repeatedly.

  • @soldtobediers
    @soldtobediers Жыл бұрын

    Just completed my 10th - 7 yr. circuit around the sun this month. Bought the ''Secrets Of The Great Pyramid'' by Peter Thompkins @ age 22 back in 1973, & have studied & referred to it's logic & mathematics many times over ever since. The most Integral explorer in my opinion, was Flinders Petrie.

  • @paulannable3734
    @paulannable3734 Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely Utterly Fascinating

  • @StephiSensei26
    @StephiSensei26 Жыл бұрын

    Hello there again. I am going to take a "wild card" from the "Monopoly" board and give it my best guess. I may end up in "jail" but, ...here's my take on this highly intriguing subject. After watching this wonderful video over and over several times, I have a "hypothesis". It's in two parts. 1.) There was a Sarcophagus, BUT, (someone) messed up and broke it during their excavations. Our friends Al Adrizi, Weiss, Caviglia and Petri were not the first to enter the Great Pyramid as we know. (Not to mention the Circus Performer, Barzoni or Barboni, I can't recall, who was notorious for not being the most "gentle" or methodical of treasure hunters.) Over the millennia, who can say how many attempts were made to plunder the monument? Anyway, I believe the Sarcophagus was damaged and ended up as rubble. Who wants to come home to the British Museum with a pile of scrap and claim "It really is a Sarcophagus, if they just glue it together again?" Embarrassing, what? 2.) From the photographic evidence, one can estimate the the space in the Niche to be approximately large enough for a "modern" person to lay down horizontally. Approximately 5.5 Ft. from the photos. If this was truly a "Queen's" chamber / Sarcophagus / Niche, then I submit that it may have been a small Sarcophagus, as the average height of Ancient Peoples was less than that of the modern person. It therefore may have fit into the Niche horizontally more like an alter with the god peering from behind over the box, protecting it. So, to get deeper into the Niche, where they perhaps suspected to find "Booty", they may have attempted to move it and broke it in the process. All the rubble in the Niche, which we see in the photos, may actually be in part, the Sarcophagus itself? Do I go to "Jail" now? I can't wait to read your take on this and your upcoming special video. Thanks.

  • @HistoryforGRANITE

    @HistoryforGRANITE

    Жыл бұрын

    There are a few examples of 'coffers within coffers' - but it's uncommon and usually the stone is a different type in the two layers. I think the niche cavity being a back-up 'unused' coffer is a reasonable idea. But I think it's much less likely a 2nd coffer was actually embedded within and entirely lost to time.

  • @StephiSensei26

    @StephiSensei26

    Жыл бұрын

    @@HistoryforGRANITE OK, sounds reasonable. Thank you so much for your reply. At least Im' not I jail! But, I still can't afford Boardwalk!🙃

  • @MountainRaven1960
    @MountainRaven19604 ай бұрын

    Not only the construction of the pyramids makes me wonder, but also the associated side processes. You have to wonder about the stone cutting techniques, the mathematics that went into the project, the interior lighting needed at the time, the actual psychology of the designers, as well as many more side fields that would have needed be to brought to bare to realise the project. These people knew a lot of ‘science’ and would have had it all over other societies of the time. Yet it was all lost. Something we should take note of.

  • @masaharumorimoto4761
    @masaharumorimoto4761 Жыл бұрын

    Man, when you mentioned the sarcophagus lost at sea I remembered a scene of that from a movie I couldn't remember... it was "The Old Guard" with Charlize Theron, they slap someone in an iron maiden and toss her overboard to drown over and over again, yikes!!!!

  • @watchword1354
    @watchword1354 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent. Keep up the good work. Bought one of your sweatshirts.

  • @EM-df6mo
    @EM-df6mo Жыл бұрын

    Extremely interesting, thank you.

  • @CHECKHIMOUT
    @CHECKHIMOUT Жыл бұрын

    luv your work!!

  • @user-bg6lc2vk5d
    @user-bg6lc2vk5d2 ай бұрын

    The story of the Queens Chamber sarcofacus validate the modern psycological explanation of the working of the mind when we look at stuff. If we expect to see something it may well show up and other stuff won't be registred - which is also why when making a search for something or somebody have the search team walk the same area from opposite directions. You see something else when doing the second walk. ;)

  • @legpol
    @legpol Жыл бұрын

    The pyramid roof appearing at 0:36 is displaying a sag caused by erosion and even by missing stones, those that have fallen down to the ground. This falling stone phenomenon should be taken seriously as stones might fall en masse sooner or later and tourists might be hurt.

  • @RickshawMunky
    @RickshawMunky Жыл бұрын

    Excellent discussion 👍

  • @stargate1555
    @stargate1555 Жыл бұрын

    Brien Foerster has been putting out some interesting videos and lectures about Egypt too. I've been a fan of Ancient Architects for years and Matt steered me to check out History for Granite. Very interesting material.......very interesting. What I most like about Matt is he updates his previous videos and hypothesizes as more information becomes available......that says a lot. History for Granite........good work, very good work.

  • @JoelRSmith

    @JoelRSmith

    Жыл бұрын

    I liked Forester's video walkthroughs but had to turn the audio off after he drones on about the predynastic nonsense. He thinks all the carved granite in Egypt is predynastic or something, makes no sense.

  • @handyman3823

    @handyman3823

    Жыл бұрын

    Watch decoding sacred geometry he does good job of sorting out Brian's BS

  • @handyman3823

    @handyman3823

    Жыл бұрын

    My bad its SGD Sacred Geometry Decoded

  • @stargate1555

    @stargate1555

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JoelRSmith I'll look into that. *

  • @stargate1555

    @stargate1555

    Жыл бұрын

    Brien Forester has been around the world documenting ancient sites. I don't believe he's a used car salesman. Most of what he hypothesizes is opinion I agree......but at least he has an opinion. Gather all the information you can, draw your own conclusions, and seek as many sources as you can. I do. I'm very critical when it comes to being convinced. Peace out.

  • @timgstar3585
    @timgstar3585 Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic thanks man very interesting 👍

  • @abloke8834
    @abloke8834 Жыл бұрын

    Great video. Well done Sir

  • @jasonbowles813
    @jasonbowles813 Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic. Thank you.

  • @oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368
    @oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 Жыл бұрын

    Is there any way to use ground-penetrating radar or satellite imagery to hint at what lays below the ground for the entire site around the Great Pyramid?

  • @Obiter3
    @Obiter327 күн бұрын

    So fascinating. 👌