What grade would you give NASCAR on FOX in 2022?

@Slingindirt_09

2 жыл бұрын

Mid

@jazratchetclank2766

2 жыл бұрын

All A+

@otoot8198

2 жыл бұрын

B-. It was good i guess, but it wasn't the best in my opinion.

@darkcrypto_yt

2 жыл бұрын

I’d say a little bit below mid

@CJODell12

2 жыл бұрын

C overall.

I freaking hated that the races would go to commercials every 5 minutes. The rotational commentator was great, especially when Dale Jr. and Smoke were on but the flood of commercials drowned out that and the rest of the good things that they did.

@48waffles36

2 жыл бұрын

They need to be only side by side commercial instead of full commercial.

@elijahjp2158

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewwilson1811 But that's the thing. We aren't in the 90s anymore. There is more entertainment being pumped out everywhere than there has ever been. People's attention spans are growing shorter thanks to the internet and new technology in general. F1 is popping off in the US especially with younger generations not just because of Netflix, but also because they air ZERO commercials during the entire race.

@BornIn1500

2 жыл бұрын

@@elijahjp2158 No way is F1 popping off in the US. Most people think it's boring as hell because there's hardly any overtaking. Hell, at Monaco, the guy who got pole position won the race 12 out of the last 17 races and was never overtaken at any point. Just watch qualifying to know the winner. What fun is that? It's basically a fast car show and not racing. Most people in America would rather watch a real competitive race. And on top of that, F1 cars keep getting bigger and bigger over the years, making it even harder to pass. LOL

@elijahjp2158

2 жыл бұрын

@@BornIn1500 But they have an incredible broadcast, so it makes it more hype than it actually is. I'm sorry, but nowadays, only NBC has good broadcast quality when it comes to NASCAR racing. Fox on the other hand is ass with broadcasting and airs so, many, commercials. Literally Mike Joy is the only one who is holding the fort down for Fox. Presentation is everything regardless of good racing or not.

if it weren’t for Mike Joy, Larry Mac, and Jamie Mac, FOX would be in shambles…

@meisalanbenfica1

2 жыл бұрын

My dream booth is Clint, Michael and Darrel Waltrip

@thetechfromheaven

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair I rather have Tony in more races, I know he has a lot of duties managing 2 race teams but he makes it more spicy while being sarcastic at times and he doesn't jinx drivers in a constant basis like Clint.

@KCS4LifeOFFICIAL

2 жыл бұрын

💯

@KCS4LifeOFFICIAL

2 жыл бұрын

@@Tixio_T he has been a reporter since the early 80s

@AgtWashingtub

2 жыл бұрын

@@meisalanbenfica1 Maybe some sort of fever dream. The last thing we need is 3 unfunny people acting like clowns because that is the type of shit drunk and on drugs Brian France laughed at.

I enjoyed that they brought in a rotating group of people in the booth with Tony Stewart, Chad Knaus, and people like that. I really liked how at Bristol dirt and talladega they had a old NASCAR Raceday type pre-race show. That was cool. Other than that, FOX was pretty bad.

@S.K.R.E.Inc.

2 жыл бұрын

I don't know on most of those statements, I was at most tracks for the Fox half, but I agree with the last statement. They're starting to meet rock bottom

As someone who works on the FOX production crew, it was interesting to hear your thoughts/read the comments. Personally, my favorites shows we did this season were the pre-race shows on location. While very expensive to pull off, they offer a great fan experience.

@billnewberry6295

2 жыл бұрын

First, AFR, thank you and your colleagues for your hard work. It is appreciated. I hope that feedback is being taken to the higher-ups... because the studio pre-race segments were just hard to take. I personally like more stuff for the race, not "what star of yesterday do today's stars remind you of". I don't think we need that kind of stuff. But again, thanks for all the hard work.

@2ndamendmentsupportingrepu706

2 жыл бұрын

You guys just nead more cameras please way more and less zooming in on cars we want to see racing not 1 car

@2ndamendmentsupportingrepu706

2 жыл бұрын

Keep clint he keeps the broadcast alive

Jamie Mac was a good addition to the booth... He needs to be a permanent member in the FOX Booth.. His personality, knowledge, and insight was much needed. FOX needs to go back to showing racers names on top of the TV. I hate how they got it now

@Jared40

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree 👍🏻

@TKizzy12

2 жыл бұрын

Jamie Mac was literally the best commentator they had all year

It's a thing that nearly ALL big motorsport coverage has had a problem with recently, and its freaking crowds shots. I couldn't care less what the fans are doing during the race, I tuned in to watch the exact same race that they're attending! At the very least, keep the crowd shots to a minimum and use them for going to and coming from commercial breaks.

Good: The guest analysts Bad: The pre race nonsense, Micheal Waltrip's grid walk Ugly: Too many commercials during the race

@scoriosta1675

2 жыл бұрын

Idk I kind of like Machael Waltrips grid walk

@94nolo

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Michael Waltrip being a goof off has to go. Encapsulates the issues with Fox personalities.

@NASCARNEWS6

2 жыл бұрын

I like the grid walk but if they would do them like In 1980s and 1990s ask the driver good questions not dumping cakes on pit road any on Denny Hamlin's car

Bowyer needs to be on the pre race And fox needs to do through the field again that would be great

@keenenbenton9843

2 жыл бұрын

Through the field was cool cause you’d actually learn about the drivers that didn’t run up front on a weekly basis now if you’re not in the top 10 you’re not gonna get any airplay which is unfortunate

I may not like how NASCAR on FOX is nowadays and I may not like the modern NASCAR on NBC reboot, but there’s still some originality NASCAR on FOX they have like Mike Joy, Larry McReynolds, Chris Myers, Crank It Up (I wish it was better again), the return of in-person pre-race shows. My favorite guest stars are Chad Knaus, Dale Earnhardt Jr, Jamie McMurray, Larry McReynolds, and the throwback stars at Darlington! It’s annoying that the endless amount of more-full ads are still a thing from FOX and NBC. It’s annoying that FOX shows unnecessary angles and also show kids…. Like, that’s weird and creepy as hell. I feel like it’s time for a new NASCAR on FOX coverage director who can do a better job. That’s just me

Adam Alexander has learned from his mistakes from his early years. I think deserves a shot at being along side Mike. Then add McMurray and that would be my line up.

My biggest issue was the amount of ad breaks we had and their timing. It seems like that once the green flag drops, we get 5 minutes of racing and 3 minutes of commercials, which for most tracks doesn't even get you into the double digits when it comes to lap count. I'm fine with ads being played during a race, after all it's pretty much been that way since I started watching NASCAR back in the early 2000s, but back then, you could easily get a good 12-15 minutes in before an ad break during green flag racing, and the only time you'd have multiple breaks in a short amount of time was during a caution period. Not to mention that if a wreck occurred during an ad break, it would cut back to the race almost immediately, or even delay the ad break if it occurred as they were transitioning to the break. And don't get me started on how it seems like you only see the same 5 commercials every ad break with the very rare exception.

I believe people put too much emphasis on the booth and commentary. The vast majority of issues with the FOX coverage stems from the production team and the creatives. At times it felt like whoever is in charge of all the cameras was straight up trolling the viewer

@S.K.R.E.Inc.

2 жыл бұрын

They want that advertising money

Mike Joy deserves a spot in the Hall of Fame.

One thing Fox could/should get rid of is the pre-race grid walk with Michael Waltrip. F-1 does something similar but the interviews are generally relevant and informative. While Waltrip is a very likeable guy, his schtick is more akin to a clown act.

@S.K.R.E.Inc.

2 жыл бұрын

The grid-walk needs more time, that's all. And yes, the gimmicks need to stop. Unless it's something like a challenge

Another thing, NO FULL SCREEN COMMERCIALS! I remember a battle for the lead this year and we miss the lead change because they went to commercial (not even side-by-side). The NASCAR discord had gotten to the point where we celebrate when commercials come on and complain when they're done for time being 😂

@S.K.R.E.Inc.

2 жыл бұрын

Wait, NASCAR has a Discord?

@PaulMcElligott

2 жыл бұрын

I think some full-screen commercials are required by the advertisers.

@tsholts5173

2 жыл бұрын

​@@PaulMcElligott Yeah probably, but that's partially why stages were introduced. And we're still forced to sit through them under green, especially in the bigger races

@tsholts5173

2 жыл бұрын

​@@S.K.R.E.Inc. Don't know if this will go through, but Idk if you got any of my previous replies. They keep getting autodeleted for some reason

@PaulMcElligott

2 жыл бұрын

@@tsholts5173 while I’m sure they use the stage breaks for that reason, I’m guessing the network is obligated to a certain number of full-screen ad breaks per hour, and stage breaks don’t cover all of them.

A bad that I think you missed that need to be addressed is the Truck broadcasts. They gotta get Vince Welch out of there. He's just not good at being the lead broadcaster. And Michael Waltrip adds zero value in the booth. He only states the obvious or openly wishes for crashes. Fox needs to blow that booth up and redo it for next year. It makes watching Truck races insufferable at times. Unfortunately, since Fox only airs Trucks, they have no competitive incentive with NBC to be better. I wish it was possible for NBC to do a Truck race once, so we can hear Rick Allen return to his roots and call a Truck race one more time

Goofiness and bad shots killed it for me, but it had potential. Also, go back to victory lane please! Mike Joy, Larry Mac + Jamie Mac are a GREAT booth.

Add Coleman Pressley to every broadcast. His contribution to the Xfinity broadcasts he was on was awesome.

I think Fox improved throughout the year- I can't disagree on that. I liked having some of the guest analysts, like Knaus and JMac, but not Danica or Tony (felt too monotonous) as much. I'll be looking forward to possibly Kurt Busch, Joey Logano, some of those drivers that have a great voice on the mic and smart mind on the race stories. One thing to note that most people don't know (and I only know from working in the broadcasting industry): the crew that broadcasts the races is NASCAR Productions, so it's the same people making the races the entire season. The only difference from Fox to NBC is the higher up producers that call the ultimate shots in terms of stories to cover and occasionally the shots to get; that's normally on the technical producers to get the right shots during the commentary, but the difference that we THINK we see between the networks is actually not there aside from a couple people that work for each company and have the logo in the corner of the screen. Hope that is something people learned today!

@DepravedCoTApologist

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting. I did not know that. However, you can definitely see clear directional differences with Fox and NBC, which I'd assume are from the producers

You're right Clint can be TOO much. And the side by side when they go to commercials, something g happens on the track, crash etc, they don't even cut back in like they used to.

Fox needs to use Clint bowyer like how nbc uses Rutledge wood, someone who goes and shows the atmosphere at the track, show the enthusiasm first hand from the fans.

I watched the full pre race show for the first time this weekend since one of the first races of the season and I got to say it’s gotten much better i actually enjoyed the pre race how they where taking the sport seriously up until Mikeys grid walk and that Ryan Blaney skit. I don’t think goofy skits should be the last parts of the pre race. Now the next thing we need back is victory lane Interviews and actually time for a post race show just something short to sum up the race and discuss how different drivers days went would be nice.

@williamhouman8009

2 жыл бұрын

I 100% agree with you. Mike's grid walk is a worthless mess. Definitely need victory lane back

@48waffles36

2 жыл бұрын

💯

@youngdouglas6624

2 жыл бұрын

@@williamhouman8009 Mikey just needs to go away. PERIOD

@scoriosta1675

2 жыл бұрын

Idk that Ryan blaney skit was pretty funny

C-. My biggest trigger was if something mildly interesting happened they would show 3 or 4 replays of it while we were missing live action. Split the screen if you have to. But there were times they showed a replay and then have to show another replay of what we missed while at replay 🤯

Pretty much what you said. But they gotta zoom out and more of the track than a single car

Michael Waltrip was my fave driver growing up, still got love for the guy but for the love of god (and his broadcasting career) he needs to stop the skits. You’re 100% right. I think he’s a good broadcaster, terrible actor..

@runrafarunthebestintheworld

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry but he's not good for broadcasting he really brought his older brother DW down his goofy little world with him. Mikey just isn't funny.

The need to quit with all the comedy and sketches, this is a serious sport, and they are not presenting it like one. I agree that Joy, and the 2 Macs would be best for the booth. Also they 100% need to do the pre race show AT the track and not in the stupid studio, that is so bland and boring.

@michaeldavis5106

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with you on the pre race show. personally, I feel more connected to the race if the show is at the track.

When Mike Joy retires, they should put Alan Bestwick in the booth, or sign Leigh Diffy from nbc.

@Jose-Gomez

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnhaas2523 I Agree.

I would also like to add -and this is a very specific thing to pick on-, that group qualifying, mainly at road courses, had awful coverage. They would basically show someone notable start a hotlap, show video of the area surrounding the track and footage on pit road, etc., then show them ending their hotlap. I noticed how awful nascar on fox road course qualifying coverage is this past saturday, after watching F1 qualifying then watching the truck qualifying later that day. They could REALLY use some improvement in that specific niche.

@james-poling

2 жыл бұрын

Excellent observation! I watched COTA qualifying out of hopes it would exemplify the best excitement about F1 qualifying, but the broadcast was a confused embarrassment. I hope NASCAR can help out its broadcast partners at the road courses, whether it be having more qualifying-only sets of tires (which would increase the chances of someone improving subsequent lap times, i.e. drama) and set up something equivalent to sector times, which would help the broadcast booth tremendously.

Good: Multiple Special guests in the booth next to Mike Joy and Clint Bowyer. Like Jamie McMurray, Matt Kenseth, Tony Stewart, Chad Knaus, Darrell Waltrip, and Dale Earnhardt jr. Bad: bad timing with commercial Breaks (like a wreck happening as soon as they cut to commercial), Multiple times they went on board with drivers when nothing happens, and the Multiple times the cameras focused on kids at Atlanta (Who let Jason Jacoby and Joseph Lombard run those cameras??)

@Ob1tuber

2 жыл бұрын

Don’t forget Mark Martin

@cito1101

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ob1tuber Oh yeah, thanks for the reminder

I enjoyed the rotating booth this year and especially liked the Mike, Tony, Larry booth this past weekend. They had smooth chemistry and great insight with just the right amount of humor from Tony on the occasion. Nothing was overdone. It was fun near perfect. If they could learn from NBC on how to work camera angles and continue that outdoor prerace show from the mentioned Bristol and Talladega races and get there promotional material out more. NASCAR fans would be much happier. Now to even the playing field a bit I'll mention my thoughts on NBC. They have the opposite problem Fox has. I CAN NOT STAND their booth, I know some people enjoy the Jr, Steve, and Rick show but they're like nails on a chalkboard to me. And don't even get me started on the "Where's Rutt" segments. As a fan of the later ESPN booth, I'd love to see NBC bring in someone like an Allen Bestwick and Dale Jarrett for the booth, and maybe a Bobby Labonte (realistically it does seem unlikely).

Would love to see a tour of your garage area that I see on nwp. Great video as always bro!

The commercials really need to be worked on, maybe more NASCAR side by side show the race and the commercials at the same time

Here's my take: I agree on the booth. Mike, Larry, and Jamie would be perfect. You honestly don't even need a full time third, just keep Mike and Jamie, and have Larry on speed dial for analytics like they do now. IF Mike wants to move on, bring up Adam Alexander, and it'll still be fine. Mike Joy is the Al Michaels of NASCAR. I think we can all agree when I say I love Clint's personality and sense of humor, but it was too much. He ranted and seemed to try to force comedy way too much during the broadcast. I'd be fine putting him on the Raceday show where the whole point is to have fun and entertain, he'd be a natural fit. My only other big gripe is the commercials. Not the timing, not the amount, but more specifically the last commercial every time is a NASCAR commercial. Like... I'm sitting here watching the race and you're giving me a generic NASCAR ad every 10 minutes? Either don't run that commercial which would mean a slightly shorter break, or find something else to fill that slot so you actually make money from it.

Idea for the Bristol Dirt Race: get Stewart Friesen in the booth. He'll already be there for the Trucks race and has loads of dirt racing experience in a Big Block Modified and Late Model.

The thing is when they actually cared and were good, they were really good. Talladega was the perfect example when they brought Dale Jr and the live pre race show and race day. But when they were bad, they were atrociously bad. Best example were the skits, case in point the watermelon seed. Broadcasts can always be improved and Fox is entering an area of uncertainty with mike and possibly Clint out the door soon

Excellent analysis. No more Waltrip and the embarrassing grid walk which is awful to watch. Love Joey, Ryan and Adam in the Xfinity booth.

Here’s my own personal grade for each part of Fox’s broadcast Overall grade: C- Much was left to be desired but there is a lot of room for potential improvement. Commentating: B+ Much better compared to last years Broadcast. Although I was annoyed by Bowyer last year, I think he actually improved much more from last year, I’d give him a C+. I don’t need to explain why, but Mike Joy gets an A+. The rotation in the booth I thought was interesting and something newer, which I’d give it a B since we had some bad and some good commentators Race coverage: D- With how many commercials there were at some points I had to go and listen to MRN/PRN to listen to the races. Coverage was also really bad when it came to covering on track battles and incidents Pre-Race and Post Race: C- Pre-race skits need to go, it’s simple as that, have them for something such as NASCAR Race Hub. Too much goofiness before the race. The Grid Walk also needs to be worked. Fox did show some potential with what they did at Pocono, Talladega, Bristol with in person pre-race Post race needs to be redone entirely. Get rid of start/finish line interviews and go back to victory lane interviews. There is potential to revise what they do with post race coverage. For example, use the Fox Drone when a driver is celebrating a win, there’s so much potential there for it. After the driver is finished celebrating, have a commercial break until a driver arrives at victory lane and then interview them there.

@48waffles36

2 жыл бұрын

And Post Race show/victory lane needs to be at least a 15-30 Minute show on FOX.

@GoobiesFunZone

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think they will change the post race coverage because most of the time fox has cut away because of MLB. If it's on fsn channel so it's easy to get an interview with the winner at the start line instead of waiting until they get to victory lane. I do agree that it feels rushed.

@scoriosta1675

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with all of that except for the victory lane interviews. When I'm at the track I like to be able to see the driver in front of me from the stands. I think the emotions of the win and flowing really good then too. I think Fox should still cover victory lane though instead of cutting off to something else. They should also interview the crew chief

@JamesJohnson-sl6zc

2 жыл бұрын

I think the Victory Lane interviews are gone and not coming back. Too many sponsors and money not getting the coverage/ not network sponsors getting showcased. Example would be Gatorade Victory Lane and driver is a Coke driver who means Powerade is being drank. Who does the network/ NASCAR want being seen, corporate sponsor or driver sponsor? It's all about the money.

Thanks for pointing out how much the cameras would jump from cars battling in back to the top 5 cars. It was driving me crazy. There was one race where I could tell that Bowyer was disappointed when the cameras changed from a 10th place or so battle back to the leader running by himself. Also, TV NEEDS TO STOP going to commercial when someone catches the leader. This has been going on for decades and it NEEDS TO STOP NOW!!!!!

I’m in middle school my dream job is a NASCAR announcer so hopefully I’m next in line after Adam Alexander

Michael Waltrip was surprisingly good this year especially in the truck booth. I would love to see Kevin Harvick and the booth because he did a phenomenal job during Xfinity races.

Honestly, i miss the victory lane celebrations and interviews. It gave the time to interview the other drivers in the field and the driver isn't forced to have a typically awkward interview when he wants to just celebrate his win with his team. And I miss hearing from the other drivers on what they thought about the race as opposed to just the winner and second place.

My biggest frustration with FOX's broadcast is you can see where the post-COVID production cuts still haven't been restored, both in the race broadcast (as you mentioned in the video) and especially on pit road, where Jamie Little (one of the best pit road/sideline reporters in any sport) and Regan Smith are scrambling having to cover 36 teams among the two of them. And I don't understand why announcers/reporters from the on-site lower series from previous days (i.e. Vince Welch, Josh Sims, Jamie Howe) cannot assist rotating as a third reporter, given they are already on-site during the weekend. FOX has had so much delay reporting critical information from pit roads and then lack of follow-up on key moments in post-race interviews because of the lack of support for Little and Smith that never happened when it had a four reporters in the era of Yocum/Byrnes/Berggren/Zelasko. Should also note that FOX has been rough about having so much dead time during pace/caution laps before green flag restarts, sometimes showing more of this than subsequent green flag laps before commercial (definitely set commercial slots instead of using them when opportunity allowed). However, this could be more of a NASCAR race control issue with how slow cleanups and scoring has been getting the field back under green quickly in recent seasons. Lastly, in the minority of this one it appears, but I enjoy Bowyer quite a bit. Recognize he isn't for everyone, but I enjoy his light-hearted perspective. If the third analyst rotation continues (I think it should, to a lesser extent), would love to see Larry Mac back in the rotation more frequently (he was extremely good, as always, at Sonoma last weekend).

I think Bowyer was great, though I understand he isn't everyone's cup of tea for the races.

I liked the idea of adding new voices throughout the year. Also I’m not sure how I feel about Bowyer. I find him a little annoying and it was nice for Jamie Mac to put him in his place a few times. Also I feel like they don’t take the broadcast as seriously as it should be. The drivers should be shown as top athletes performing at the top level of racing. So less jokes more serious conversation.

Fox needs to bring back a at track pre race show

A good point I had in mind was the reminders that this was a new car during most, if not all of the broadcasts. With the rise of the new fans this year, I feel it could have helped the new crowd, and old, learn something about the sport. A bad point was the camera work, more specifically focusing on random fans (mostly kids) and unnecessary zoom-ins. I’m tuned in to watch the race, not John in the crowd with a #24 tee on or his daughters wearing their HMS merch. And the zooming in for no reason really blurred the focus of the rest of the race. Kinda nitpicking but that’s where I stand.

@polycube868

2 жыл бұрын

If they're going to show the crowd quit showing the kids try to find the hot girls there for a little eye candy not little Billy and his obese mom yuck

My biggest gripe is the pictures of all the drivers, they just make the sport look fake and the drivers being fake. If that was the only thing they changed I would be happy.

@americanpride9733

2 жыл бұрын

Exacty. They need some dope action hype pictures or baseball card type pictures

@Jared40

2 жыл бұрын

Agree 👍🏻

They were better towards the end of the season. I'll give them credit. I love Mike Joy. Everything else INCLUDING THE CAMERA FOCUS AND SHOTS needs improvement.

What Fox should do is cut the commercial breaks, that’s really what the stage breaks are for, as well as then put them durring caution me when possible. If you have to go to commercial during green flag action, go side by side. And a personal gripe, watching The cup race at gateway and the indycar race at Detroit simultaneously Fox and NBC went to commercial at the same time almost every time and if that can be avoided when both series air at the same time then do it. There are plenty of fans who watch both. Fox also should consider more night races. They don’t really have anything to compete with apart from the NBA payoffs but those happen in the middle of the week anyway so do more with that prime time TV slot. Get Tony Stewart in the booth full time, or at least most of the time. He was great. Him, Larry Mac, Jamie Mcmurry, and Mike joy are all awesome. Don’t put all 4 in the booth but mix and match them. I’d personally like to see a radio style broadcast for Cota and Sonoma, like NBC does for the Glen and Indy. It’s a unique approach that works. Doesn’t need to be all the time, but on occasion. Lastly, get more races on the big Fox. If Indycar and Nascar on NBC can pull off almost every race on the big network, then so can Fox. And don’t put the clash and all-star races on FS1, these are the big shows and entertainment products you should want to pit in front of of a big crowd at home.

Matt Kenseth and Tony Stewart were great in the booth, along with Larry Mac. They're more quiet than Clint, allows the sound of the cars to shine

I pretty much agree with everything you said except about Clint Bowyer and the skits during the prerace show. I think Clint Bowyer has gotten better as a broadcaster than last year, and he has the softness that could flow you into the broadcast. Sure, he can get a bit goofy at times, but that's Clint Bowyer for ya. When Bowyer started in the broadcast booth, I didn't think he was a good fit, especially if you put him with one of his earlier rivals in Jeff Gordon. Sure, they've softened up and were able to wing it out and remember the good times, but that still didn't get over the fact that they were constantly going back and forth over different things at times last year. But Jeff Gordon leaving the Fox booth actually benefitted Bowyer, as he was able to just be himself and at least be smart during the broadcast. As for the prerace skits, leave them be! There are always those times during the prerace show where there is nothing to add to the analysis, and you need to add some wiggle room. There are some skits that go too far, but the majority of them have been funny, and will be destined to become classic NASCAR moments. People don't realize this, but NASCAR moments don't always happen with the on track performance. They can carry over to the NASCAR broadcasts, and even on some NASCAR shows like NASCAR Now on ESPN, Trackside, NASCAR Race Day, NASCAR Victory Lane, NASCAR Race Hub, NASCAR America and the pre and postrace shows. Overall, I think Fox had an average season this year. There are things that can be improved on in 2023, but it was better than the 2021 season and ESPECIALLY the 2020 season.

My dream booth is Mike Joy, Junior, and Larry Mac.

The FOX coverage definitely got better as the season continued.

the only thing I didn't like with fox was that they only had 2 full time pit reporters for the cup series. Now they did have 3 for the daytona 500, Talladega, and the Coca-Cola 600, but that's it. I think there needs to be at least 3 full time pit reporters for the cup series. 2 is fine for the exfinity and truck series. I know that fox let some pit reporters go after the pandimic hit. also, I would agree wit you on Clint Bowyer he is not one I would have in the booth.

Good having different analysts rotating booth hope we see it again next yr

The only things fox got right this year in my opinion were Mike joy (can’t beat the classics), the rotating seat, and the pre race shows like the old nascar race day where the booth was outside with the fans. The bad was the commercials every 3-5 minutes, lack of awareness when they cut to break, changing camera angles when there is a good battle on the track (Hamlin vs chastain at gateway is my best example), the skits, and missing action altogether because of some bad camera angles (Ryan Blaney throwing his HANS device at the clash with no camera footage). I think this was one of the worst seasons of production for fox and it almost felt deliberate at times.

The booth next year needs to be Mike Joy, Jamie McMurray, and rotating cast. Put someone who fits the need of the track

My feelings is that Clint worked better with Jeff last year. Something about the way Jeff did things in the booth balanced out the silliness of Clint.

@polycube868

2 жыл бұрын

That's because Clint Bowyer actually made Jeff Gordon into the straight man to his silliness and actually brought him out of his shell a lot.

I think if FOX makes some changes, they could easily match or even surpass NBC’s (mostly USA Network) coverage. FOX has more races on network TV and often gets better ratings except during or after strings of races on FS1. Also, FOX’s NASCAR coverage is a big priority for the network while NBC’s NASCAR coverage seems to be a low priority (even lower than other sports on NBC) and easily gets booted to cable for almost anything.

@michaeldavis5106

2 жыл бұрын

since NBCSN shut down at the end of last year, I think that NBC will not renew when this TV deel is up in 2024.

@willengland7336

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnhaas2523 Sorry but that is incorrect. FOX has had 11 races including the Clash on Network TV this year (10 for the regular season).

Fox used to be amazing with Steve burns, Larry mac, DW and hermie sadler. Now it’s a comedy routine with Boyer. RIP Steve.

@runrafarunthebestintheworld

2 жыл бұрын

Hmm now that I think about Hermie Sadler wasn't that bad. Maybe they should also get Elliott Sadler to do races too.

I think Kurt Busch did a good job in his Xfinity broadcasts.

@runrafarunthebestintheworld

2 жыл бұрын

Yep and Truck series broadcasts too. Definitely has a future in broadcasting.

All I gotta say, bring back the Hollywood Hotel, get rid of the race hub studio in its entirety, and bring back the at the track prerace to every single race rather than just a couple.

1 good: visor cam 1 bad: showing a lot of children

Fox also needs to revamp the pit reporters: Jamie Little, Regan Smith, Matt Yocum, Vince Welch on the cup side, Xfinity side: Jamie Little, Regan Smith, Vince Welch, Matt Yocum, or Josh Sims, Truck side: Josh Sims, Jamie Little, Jamie Howe, Regan Smith. And on top of that we want V.L. interviews.

I think it was good, but was better with Jeff Gordon. Big fan of him

There were minor improvements, but they still need a lot of work. Time is running out for them. Also how did we discuss the bad & *not* talk about the "Grandstand Gimmick of the Race?"

Hope nascar does what imsa does with nbc and peacock coverage this year commercial free and on demand after its over

agreed! I hated how bad the camera work was, and can we quit going side by side or worse, away from the race to show commercials for Nascar??

I believe that Nascar needs to produce their own races. Get the best people that know Nascar. They can find the best camera angles and places to mics for the race sounds. They will then be able to get the best on air talent as well. NASCAR then just sends the stream to whoever wants to have the rights to the races. Since those companies don't have to produce it. They will then be able to pay a higher fee for the rights. That will then give more money to the teams.

FOX felt too lackadaisical at times this year. The camera angles were atrocious and I don't understand FOX's obsession with showing kids taking in the race, I understand the need to try to get kids to come out to the race but here is where lies the problem with what the broadcasts try to do, they try to pander and make it point to show fans and don't show enough of the race going on to even make it worth something and there were times where I was like "what is that cameraman doing?!" Furthermore, Clint Bowyer fell short of what expected him to be, he looked he was playing a character and not being himself. He made Jeff Gordon look good by comparison.

@dexterhochstetler3727

2 жыл бұрын

Kids don't want to see kids.

I liked the coverage but like, man, the ad breaks. They cut so frequently it's like i'm watching teleshopping. You get 1 lap, then ads for the next 20. I had to swap to the international ad-free broadcast it's that bad.

@deathtrooper2048

Жыл бұрын

Where is that?

Tell the truck to follow the booth in thiere camerawaork. And , PLEASE, keep the scoreboard on the screen FOR THE WHOLE RACE!

I don’t know if this is the same for other races but in my area they promote the hell out of the Sonoma race months before the event. I mean like 4-5 months before

Does anyone know how “The Iceberg” gets those daytona 500 fox clips? i know nascar uploaded tue race to youtube but not the very beginning!

Watching fox nascar coverage is like running through a cornfield backwards naked

Seeing Tony Stewart walking around has some big Alec Baldwin vibes.

I totally agree with your assessment with Clint. I did enjoy some of the other drivers they had in the booth. I think Danica would make a good broadcaster if put it with the right people, her and Clint were an embarrassment. I almost feel like Clint sabotaged her in that particular broadcast. I agree with your assessment on the camera angles, although I don't know how to fix the problem I believe some improvements could be made for the viewers.

Stewart in the booth is good, if not for full time use.

I don't get the hate for Clint Bowyer and Michael Waltrip I think they liven up the broadcast really well

I agree with almost everything you said. Except with the guest broadcasters. I think Danica did a pretty good job in the booth. If you paired her with Larry Mac or Jamie McMurray instead of Clint Bowyer. I think she would have been one of the best ones they had.

@SuperSaiyan-2400

2 жыл бұрын

Comparing the two series made for some impelling conversion in my opinion. She was actually able to provide good insight about both styles of racing instead of just acting goofy. If Helio Castroneves was in the booth doing the exact same broadcast, I think it would have gotten great reviews.

To me, I eel like they need to see about doing something about the number of ad breaks and taking the sport seriously. Okay yes going back 10-20 years, you had moments of levity, you had AB and Eli Gold and company being entertaining on air, but that was part of the broadcast, reacting to what had happened (see Parker Johnstone over in CART in the late 90s for how to throw zingers in and make it work), or Eli Gold/Buddy Baker in the booth for TNN and their chemistry. There's nothing wrong with being funny in the booth, as long as it's because of something happening on track. Eli Gold had a good one at TNN's coverage at NH one year, I think it was the 99 or 2000 race where they picked up a shot of Bill Elliott doing a burnout, Eli mentioned TNN covered drag racing then pointed out, in his serious, announcer tone that no, burnouts are not a part of Winston Cup racing, but Bill just got done with his one. I feel like whoever has the TV contract needs to let the sport dictate the camera shots, and talking about what's going on. THe Imsa/Radio Le Mans crew get away with talking about anything because 1. It's a 24 hour or 12 hour race or them, and 2, as the great John Hindhauh points out, on radio you aren't tied to what the camera is showing

I love NASCAR ON FOX it’s great but I’m gonna be sad because NBC takes over for the 2nd half of the season also can you make a video about NASCAR ON NBC pls

At least they stopped doing the gopher mascot for the on track cameras. Digger. I don’t know if modern nascar broadcasts get goofier than that.

"Constant Clint Bowyer" lol

Question not related to Fox. Question from a European fan how much commercials do you guys have when it's nascar on NBC. i like to listen to the American commentators (the international broadcast doesn't have commercials)

Fans in 2020: Clint is funny in the Xfinity Series broadcasts, he should be a fulltime commentator when he retires! Fans in 2022: We've had enough of Clint, I don't like his 1-liners during the races & trying to be overexciting! Again, comparing NASCAR fans to the wrestling fanbase (especially when people leave WWE to go elsewhere), nobody is ever satisfied. They are good one minute, then the next they hate what they previously loved. Guarantee, if they had Mike, Larry, & Jamie Mac in the booth, SOMEONE would complain about it 5 weeks in, saying it was 'stale' & 'needed excitement'. The guest 3rd man spot was always fun, except for Danica, we won't go there. Hopefully, they can bring it back next year every other race or so. And yes, the skits have to go, especially Pockrass & the grid walk.

C+ average. They just don’t have the focus they need. For example, did the ever follow up on Harvicks flubbed final pit stop? I wanted to know what happened that took him even further out of contention. Tony and Larry in the booth were awesome. 100% agree Clint has to go. Too manic and he talks over everyone. Put him in the pits with Myers’s.

Honestly I could see Jamie and chad being in the booth someday

Color Announcers Ranked: 1. Jamie McMurray 2. Larry McReynolds 3. Dale Earnhardt Jr 4. Tony Stewart 5. Matt Kenseth 6. Chad Knaus 7. Bobby Labonte 8. Bill Elliott 9. Kenny Wallace 10. Jeff Gordon 11. Darrell Waltrip 12. Michael Waltrip 13. Richard Petty 14. Clint Bowyer 15. Danica Patrick

@JackLikesTrackhouse

2 жыл бұрын

Move Elliott and Gordon up a couple and that’s pretty much perfect.

@Ob1tuber

2 жыл бұрын

No Mark Martin, I guess he just showed up out of nowhere but he still was good

Pls they need to bring back victory lane on tv

Watching this after hearing about Knoxville truck broadcast

Smart idea: NASCAR broadcasts always promote USFL, so how about FOX uses USFL to promote NASCAR? Easy and doesn't cost em much seeing as they're both FOX and it can be done between plays

@dexterhochstetler3727

2 жыл бұрын

But twice as many people watch NASCAR than USFL.

I disagree about Clint Bowyer. People say he's not serious enough, but that's why I like him there. He doesn't take anything too seriously. Nothing is more off-putting than people or things that take themselves too seriously.

A thing I'm surprised you didn't mention was the graphics Package I loved that Graphics Package this year it made all the drivers stand out However there needs to be one change & that's the removal of the comic book drivers idk what they're thinking with that but it needs to stop

@dexterhochstetler3727

2 жыл бұрын

They look ok when they're zoomed out, but anytime you see them for more than a few seconds uncanny valley kicks in.

@silvy3047

2 жыл бұрын

I liked how they gave Denny Hamlin six pack abs and everyone else is a normal dude

No commercials!!!! That's all I care about!!

fox sports watching this noted and will do something about it for the next nascar race.

I don't think I even watched the pre race shows at other tracks except when they we're at Bristol and Talladega. The skits would make more sense during the week on race hub after all the important content is covered. Switching out different people every week was a great idea but we could've done without Danica, she does better broadcasting with the Indy car series. We gotta have someone who prioritize what's going on the track rather than being a comedian.

@polycube868

2 жыл бұрын

Danica talked way too much about IndyCar and she raced NASCAR but kept falling back to IndyCar, she'd be good as a pit reporter but she doesn't belong in the booth she's just not good at it.

I think Fox has improved throughout this year

They need to find a way to reduce commercial time, which by FAR is the most of any sport. I understand how important sponsors are to Nascar, but the more you force feed commercials to people, the less people will stick around to watch.