The Genius Behind Titania McGrath with Andrew Doyle
My guest today is Andrew Doyle. Andrew is a British comedian, writer, and political commentator. He's best known for creating and writing the satirical character Titania McGrath, a fictional social justice warrior who parodies extreme progressive activism.
Doyle is also a frequent contributor to The Spectator, Spiked, and many other publications, where he writes on topics related to free speech, political correctness, and social justice. He's also written several books including "Woke: A Guide to Social Justice" which he wrote in character as Titania and "Free Speech And Why It Matters" which he wrote as himself. In addition to his work as a writer, Doyle has also performed a stand-up comedy and appeared on various TV and radio programs in the UK.
This was a really fun and wide-ranging conversation about a bunch of different topics, and I hope you all enjoy it as much as I did.
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Titania McGrath's ' Say what you like about Isis, but at least you can't accuse them of Islamaphobia ' remains a classic.
@Lopfff
Жыл бұрын
Yeah that one is pretty much perfect
@chrisnieto5547
9 ай бұрын
Terrifyingly accurate of many peoples thought process.
@chadlee4281
8 ай бұрын
Bill warner is a national treasure. God bless
Andrew Doyle is two of my favorite people on earth!
@EchoBravo370
Жыл бұрын
Two spirit, even. Weirdly.
@ninagohlsson6053
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@zappa-happy3271
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣Brilliant! He’s Both of mine Too!!
@Lopfff
Жыл бұрын
That’s good
@oldhamer111
Жыл бұрын
Good one 😅
Andrew is consistently a delight to listen to. So clear, intelligent and humourous
The woman that does Titania in Standup is brilliant as well.
Andrew Doyle is a treasure!
I laughed out loud! (I mean... LOUDLY!) when you said 'luckily I'm black' .... This is all insane. Society is a living breathing comedy show.
Andrew Doyle is bloody incredible. ❤ love him.
@ondolite3789
Жыл бұрын
Why not use your real picture. Yoo are a fukking whyte man.
"I don't have the patience to de-radicalize someone". 🤣 Such a gem...just arrived and happy to be there. Thanks for the awesome content, Coleman!
You are both champions of compassion and rationality. Thank you.
The New Puritans was flawless. Also, now I'm kind of preoccupied with Titania perishing in a satirical grease fire. An epic woke funeral? 😢
@tessoftheterfervilles9469
Жыл бұрын
Great isn't it? I listened to it on Audible.
One of the best discussions, Andrew Doyle is a force!
@thedenster73
Жыл бұрын
Yes, he’s the force king
As someone who works in academia, the comment regarding language & the use of “folks” was so SPOT ON! Omg I never thought of that, so true though!
@Boethius411
Жыл бұрын
As a southerner who thoroughly appreciates the folkish and ordinary around me… Damn it! They can’t have our word!
@TheJustina102085
Жыл бұрын
@@Boethius411 LOL I agree; cultural appropriation if you ask me!
@Boethius411
Жыл бұрын
@@TheJustina102085 yeah… but I’m really not interested in using their words either. What they condemn as appropriation is mostly imitation done out of admiration of particular cultural attributes. So I don’t even agree with them about that. We both know they ain’t no ways doing it cause they like my slow drawl and appreciate southern hospitality anyway.
@gennasommers8485
Жыл бұрын
Crap! I use folks! But I’m not woke lol I just work on a place that has a lot of woke people
@viviennedunbar3374
Жыл бұрын
I had also definitely noticed that anyone outside the South who uses that phrase in certain contexts is very much a SJW.
"the inconsistencies are a feature, not a bug". That perfectly sums up all this nonsense. Thank you, Andrew.
Yeah, right on the money about satire being intolerable to people who haven't really thought about their position. Well articulated.
Debating a wokist is like talking to a flat earth astrophysicist.
@kiwigrunt330
Жыл бұрын
Except for the fact that flat earthers have no support, whereas the woke have the weight of the whole flat earth behind them...
@thedenster73
Жыл бұрын
Aw, where did the wok hurt you, snowflake?
Andrew is a such a perspicacious observer of the woke phenomenon. Thank you x
@mtmcas
Жыл бұрын
Perspicacious is a new word to me! The world needs much more perspicacity.
Andrew is brilliant.
amala on triggernometry; andrew on with coleman.. great to see my favourite critical thinkers / cultural commentators getting together.
@ondolite3789
Жыл бұрын
Amala??!!
@thedenster73
Жыл бұрын
Critical thinkers 😂😂😂😂
“In a room when everyone is giving their pronouns, I would say, ‘I don’t do this.’”
@chasingthesun-bi6cx
Жыл бұрын
The best response I've heard to this question is "I have no special requests".
@killermonjero
Жыл бұрын
I say, "They are 'you' and 'fuck.'"
Andrew Doyle is one of the most funny and concise person talking about the culture war..
His recent book, The New Puritans is one of his best!
I love Andrew. He's from my neck of the woods (no, don't be fooled by the accent, he's Irish).
Two of my favorite commentators today!
He should a ‘deep fake’ version Titania!!!! Bring her to life!
@Bobmudu35UK
Жыл бұрын
There is a stand up routine of an actress playing Titania on KZread. It's very good.
@Bobmudu35UK
Жыл бұрын
kzread.info/dash/bejne/dIiWusyko9nZkqw.html
@chaosenergy1990
9 ай бұрын
Agreed. I’d pay for that. Someone set up a crowd fund 👍👍
@cuteanimalseverywhere7620
8 ай бұрын
He did find a convincing actress who did standup- its online.
Andrew's great.
Thought I would have heard all this before. Nope! Inspirational as ever. Nice one chaps.
I loved Andrew Doyle’s new book! Cheers for a great interview!
I'm new too Andrew Doyle and he just explained what I call "its pointless trying to converse rationally with something that does not recognise reason" sort of thing. I have noticed this too !
Doily is brilliant! 💖 Thank you for this interview.
Great conversation guys. Keep it up!
This interview is so good. So thought provoking. Thank you Mr Hughes and Mr Doyle!
Great interview Coleman
I think sometimes it’s easy to forget that youth support things for a variety of reasons. Sometimes it’s reactionary, other times ironically or to be edgy, and as a form of subtle trolling/rebellion. And that support itself oscillates between ardent endorsement to a passerby’s meager glances. Most “support” isn’t endorsement of All things spoken or believed. You can agree with one thing someone says without aligning to all things said.
@mikegray8776
Жыл бұрын
Very true in past decades - easy to be anti-gun, but pro-life. Yet, the current crop of perma-offended “elite” youth mostly insist on buying their views as a bundle. One in, all in. College is not a coincidence in this equation.
@mouseketeery
Жыл бұрын
True, though there's nothing 'edgy' or rebellious about aligning with orthodoxy! If youths are agreeing with BlackRock, the supranational organisations etc., they're not the resistance, they're the useful idiots.
Great conversation, thank you!!!
What a friggen awesome conversation. Thanks for sharing. 🎉❤
This was really great! Would love if there were chapters. Would be good for navigation.
You can't talk them out of their fantasy because that gives them power. It is empowering to vilify JK Rowling.
Thanks for having Andrew on your show, Coleman. Great conversation as always. I detect an uncharacteristic level of assertiveness and counter-positioning (coolness even?) from you in this episode - which I suspect means that you don’t much LIKE Andrew ? I can only imagine that this comes from a misapprehension of his real persona - whereas I see you two as VERY similar spirits, both attracted and repelled by entirely similar things - and both scrupulously erudite. There is zero cruelty about Andrew’s stand-up (or writing) - although there is a certain steadfastness about his opposition to woke dogma. Andrew is definitely one of the good guys - and amongst the good guys, one of the wittiest.
@ninagohlsson6053
Жыл бұрын
That's interesting. I didn't detect that at all. However I have maybe detected a difference between the interviews done online and interviews done IRL that I believe comes down to online and IRL interviews being two fundamentally different things.
@mikegray8776
Жыл бұрын
@@ninagohlsson6053 Perhaps that’s it? Coleman does tend to place his two chairs very close together - so it must be difficult for either person to appear totally relaxed. Either way, a great conversation as always.
@ninagohlsson6053
Жыл бұрын
@@mikegray8776 That's a really good point that I hadn't considered!
Amazing! Love U Andrew! ThankU 4 Being U! & Being British! Cos Bloody Hell mate We Need U!! Lots Luv from UK!💙💙
A great conversation, loved it, so interesting and wide ranging. 😍
As a woman I've experienced toxic femininity so often within groups, and it definitely needs to be talked about more. Covert and dishonest undermining of other women, especially ones that are successful in any way, is one of the worst aspects, and it can be so destructive. We can also talk about the great aspects of masculinity and femininity and how we can strengthen each other. I really admire the genuine friendliness that men seem to experience in all-male groups.
Excellent interview. Andrew is brilliant. Subscribed!
With just a little more vulgarity, Andrew could be the new Christopher Hitchens. I mean this as an enormous complement. Thanks for bringing him on Coleman.
Andrew has become one of my favorite commentators, thinkers. Thanks for the great conversation!
Great conversation - Andrew Doyle is an absolute legend and doing sterling work on GBNews. Would love to have heard you discuss Critical Race Theory.
Decline, not conjugate (verbs conjugate; nouns and pronouns decline). But you're absolutely right. There should be no reason to give the genitive and accusative forms (her/his and her/him) after the nominative (he/she). What's really absurd is when the pronouns are mixed: he/hers/them.
@robdielemans9189
Жыл бұрын
What I kind of said in the chat was that it is absurd that someone wants to control how you speak about them when they're not around. The stated pronouns are in the 3d person, if I talk about you to someone else and you are still in the room I would just use your name and not your 3d person pronoun. So it's about control. Petty. Child-like i.e. non-adult behaviour.
@laurelvanwilligen9787
Жыл бұрын
@@robdielemans9189 Uggh. I don't know how long I've been trying to make this point. Thank you for writing it down in a coherent way.
@roxee57
Жыл бұрын
@@robdielemans9189 When I was a child and my mother caught me using someone’s pronoun while talking to someone else about them while they were in ear shot my mum would tell me “who is she, the cats mother” adding it’s rude not to use someone’s name when referring to them (meaning the person isn’t some generic female “she” like a cat or a horse, but a person who deserves to be referred by their name).
@kiwigrunt330
Жыл бұрын
But if you only give 'ze', how would you know that it is followed with 'zur'?
@czarnick2
Жыл бұрын
This is the kind of errant pedantry up with which I shall not put 😇😂👍
MINORITY can win when the MAJORITY doesn't stand up or speak up for their RIGHTS. BRILLIANT interview. THANK YOU BOTH for having this conversation. 👏 👏 👏
Great chat gentlemen thank you so necessary xx
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@user-ji8ll1qn6o
Жыл бұрын
It would be cool if you Added timestamps to your videos so that we could skip through the content and have an overview of the points discussed
This is a great conversation!
Is that hat you on the music stream? 😱 Wow.... Compiments!!! Amazing..... Great interview too. Love Andrew Doyle!! 🤗
I like watching you guys. You’re not like, hostile. So many other people talking about this stuff, on the left and right, seem to be brimming with smug, poorly-concealed, concealed anger. Maybe because you haven’t called any names or insulted anyone.
As a Māori, the alignment with traditional Māori ways of knowing with science is a misappropriation. Māori ways of knowing were methodical, but not scientific. It also subjects spiritual ways of think about the world to the reductive philosophy of science. The are both important, but both distinct.
@viviennedunbar3374
Жыл бұрын
Very well said.
@Patrick-857
Жыл бұрын
These people don't care about you, your people or your culture. To them it is a means to an end, a tool, nothing more. That is the case with all of their pet victim groups and all their causes. That's why truth and logic don't matter to them. The only thing they care about is power. Their entire ideology is centered around power.
The thought experiment about stopping crime is basically what Singapore has done. And it’s largely worked - Singapore has insanely low crime, even minor crimes like littering.
Wow. This was great. Thanks man!!!!! Cheers and God Bless you, your family and your channel.
This was nice! Thank you!
He’s best known here in the U.K. now for presenting a weekly show called ‘Free Speech Nation’ on GB News TV channel (essential viewing for sane people.) ps. Is a “pro town” a town where use of pronouns has been enforced by radical trans activists?
@kiwigrunt330
Жыл бұрын
Here seen by many middle of the road people as far right. I wonder why...
@Cotictimmy
Жыл бұрын
@@kiwigrunt330 To question is heresy, & heretics must be punished.
@ninagohlsson6053
Жыл бұрын
#FreeSpeechNation can be watched live here on KZread every Sunday!
@RB-jl2qb
Жыл бұрын
@@kiwigrunt330anyone brave enough to speak out about gender identity ideology and free speech is considered rightwing. Oh the irony.
I really enjoy hearing rational dialogue in this world where so many non-sequiturs are uttered daily in the media. I've been irritated with efforts to manipulate public language going all the way back to the introduction of "hyphenated American" terms. Once you dilute "American", regardless of what precedes it, you've desecrated the altar of the ideal. The very notion of "American" is already inclusive, or it was back when I learned it in the early 70s.
Good conversation.
I have followed quite a few IDW types over the years. Andrew is one of the few who still has both feet planted firmly on the ground. Not woke but also not reactionary tinfoil hatty...
Stttoooppp interrupting your guest
Excellent subtle points made by Hughes.
"Hey Folks" 😉...(I liked the use of that in the ad, clever ; )
Great stuff 👍🏻👍🏻
Brilliant! 🙏❤️
Two of the most brilliant cats of our time. Thank you
Loved this discussion, but I think u tend to interrupt quite a bit. Let your guest fully explain & finish what they want to say,& never assume u know more about what their talking about. I don’t even think u realize u do it. Other than that- this was a great listen!
Tak!
Manhood, in my construct, does not include cancelling, shaming, threatening, attacking women.Please spend some more time listening to more interviews with the detransitioners/Regretters. Consider bringing on Buck Angel.
@dianedorbin6783
Жыл бұрын
hormones and surgery do not change an individuals inherent nature
@dianedorbin6783
Жыл бұрын
kzread.info/dash/bejne/eJ-mm8yaqtTLptI.html. Is it a cult?
I dont know why so many intelligent people, like Coleman and Andrew, agree that calling men 'she' and women 'he' is polite or a courtesy. This is one of the reasons that we have ended up in this mess. Sorry, should have also said thank you for the discussion. Really interesting. Keep up the good work!
Asking why is this happening, who and whose money is controlling is THE most important question to be asking.
@2:40 the way he says Britain ina Briish accent. Haha!
Coleman the "clips" of your album at the beginning of these videos is literally like four seconds long. I don't even think that counts as an excerpt, make them longer!
@rosemaryalles6043
Жыл бұрын
😂 yes. Agree.
Andrew Doyle is great!
Nothing annoys me more than someone using the pronoun 'they' to refer to one person. I then have to go back and reframe what I was thinking from more than one person to just the one. No better way to make me lose interest in whoever that person is.
spot on with new zealand. you wouldn't believe what children are tought in schools here. I witnessed children as young as 9 giving speeches and lecturing their parents about trans rights and colonialism. Parents are scared to say something wrong in front of their own children. To me it feels scary like 1984 scary and I don't intend to stay in this country when my child arrives to this world.
@Edgar-Friendly
Жыл бұрын
Mao’s Cultural Revolution. Push back or your nation is lost.
@georgsyphers1437
Жыл бұрын
It's scarier than 1984, it more closely resembles the right think and disdain for elder wisdom seen in China's cultural revolution.
@kiwigrunt330
Жыл бұрын
Most people here don't have a clue about what is happening. The woke are very good at anchoring their ideology on actual historical issues. No one sees that the Kiwi versions of CT and CRT are a copy of what is happening everywhere. That makes it almost impossible to counter it without immediately flagging yourself as an [fill in the blank]ist. Critical Pedagogy is now the key concept in education. They have blatantly put CRT at the centre of the curriculum. They don't have to try and sneak it in. It is in. It is the fulcrum.
@pinang1
Жыл бұрын
@@Edgar-Friendly I gave up on this nation. Will go somewhere where logic still exists.
@mikegray8776
Жыл бұрын
Both amazing and horrifying that one rogue leader can effect such a change in a national psyche so quickly.
The "folks" thing in my opinion isn't just the south, rather it's more rural areas, since I'm from Maine and I hear folks all the time in the more rural parts of New England.
@Edgar-Friendly
Жыл бұрын
Saint Obama popularized the term as he quietly Wokified the government.
"Luckily, I was black..." I'll take sentences only uttered in the last four decades for 300, Alex.
17:00 logical consistency
When someone tells you their pronouns just say, "You don't get to control my language."
@chasingthesun-bi6cx
Жыл бұрын
That gives them too much of the attention they crave, a simple "ok" and a smile is far better.
@Patrick-857
Жыл бұрын
Oh but they do get to control your language, especially in the workplace. I'm in favour of any opposition to this, but all opposition has consequences at this point, because they have complete control over government, legal system, institutions and the private sector. There's only one battle left in this war, before they have completely won and that's for your mind. So that's the point that they will make, refusing to use made up pronouns is the same as using foul language in the office, abuse or harassment. There's serious teeth behind this stuff. But there's only three ways to respond, compliance, passive non compliance and active non compliance. The latter two will both get you in trouble, the former will destroy your soul. So at some point we all need to realize no job is worth the humiliation and destruction of your soul that is a woke struggle session. I for one have never been in a situation like this because I'm so averse to it that I changed careers before it came along.
Love Doyal, but I wish he would stop saying that it's a tiny group of people. That may have been the case 6 years ago, but today... It's a large majority
Daylight savings time does negatively affect sleep, especially those with existing sleeping problems.
Thank you for this episode. I am curious: at 14:50, Coleman, you state you have a self-concept of manhood. Do you feel that this self-concept of manhood was inborn and present before you learned to sit up, crawl, stand, walk and speak and this self-concept has been consistent from the time of your birth to today as per the "assigned at birth" explanation of trans identity?
Don't forget that Isabel Vaughan-Spruce, was arrested in the UK for engaging in silent prayer (by six police officers).
Excellent conversation, but I wonder why Doyle doesn't have a northern Irish accent.
More and more people are becoming asleep to the woke rubbish with the help of satire and comedians such as Mr. Doyle , thank every God.
These days, Titania would be considered mainstream middle of the road.
3:27 *incarnation (/incantation/)
@MrVvulf
Жыл бұрын
I noticed that odd usage too, but had to verify there wasn't an alternative definition I wasn't aware of. Indeed, it seems he misspoke, and intended incarnation.
@mikegray8776
Жыл бұрын
🥱
Great discussion. Thank you. I found the points around research into influences on boys very insightful. Andrew Tate is a false role model for some boys.
@robdielemans9189
Жыл бұрын
If you look at it organically then you will come to the conclusion that Andrew Tate fills a void.
@kiwigrunt330
Жыл бұрын
@@robdielemans9189 A void that should never have existed. Which is why someone like Tate can fill it, as the two speakers alluded to.
@viviennedunbar3374
Жыл бұрын
@@kiwigrunt330 plenty of men can step into that void like my husband who is a great husband and father. It’s men that are creating an online porn and internet games industries that are addicting boys.
I like listening to Andrew and I like interesting discussions. I am a Gen X woman and I don’t agree that Tate is toxic he’s just not kissing the arse of feminism. Society is suffering because many toxic mothers have kept good fathers out of the kids lives. Many men are just treated as ATM machines. Putting aside what he’s done or not done he’s talking about stoicism to boys. Also Tate is a Muslim he’s stating the rules of his religion. It’s a business decision for him to be a Muslim. It means he’s got business connections in the Middle East. Tate actually says he loves women and treats his woman or women appropriately for his religion. You need to separate the hype from the words. Jordan is giving the advice a good father would give, if they’d had a father in the home.
Love this talk. Why do boys like Andrew tate? As a masculine woman, i see the attraction. Tate is funny, he is entertaining, he is a champion kick boxer, he dresses well and has the lifestyle. His stupid comments are stupid comments. But listen to him talk about art, how the colour blue was made up as a paint over the centuries. He is self educated. So, a success, done it himself, physical, in amazing physical shape, religious… this is why boys like him.
The first to stop clapping will be first purged: gulag archipelago!!!!
Its all about COMPULSION ! "Wee are your masters !"
"As a matter of politeness & respect... " See, that's what I have a real problem with. Respect is something you earn. Are you saying that somebody gets respect from you just because they're pretending to be the opposite sex? So they're delusional and you're automatically respecting them because not only are they delusional but they are determined to force you to use the words that they will put in your mouth, or else... I'm sorry but that's really messed up man. Are you really trying to say that a forceful, rude, loud < 3% of the population Who are trying to make themselves feel important and determined to force other people to go along with their delusion automatically deserve respect from the other 95+ plus percent of us?
Stop interrupting, Coleman.
The speculation on Andrew Tate's popularity is not unrealistic. He is provocative for sure, but he is also the consequence of the relentless bad rap served upon maleness by the Media, spineless parenting and the education system that compels boys to apologise for their unexplained misogyny.
The thing that Peterson and Tate have in common is that they speak to men in a way that does not encourage them to be more feminine. That's the whole thing.
19:45 the Sun and the moon are social constructs in that we have given them categories as things floating in space. That does not negate the fact they are both very real differences. The problem with activist types seems to come not understanding language does not dictate what a reality of an object/animal etc is.
If our Conservative government was any use at all, they would have shut down the College of Policing years ago.
20:00 this problem is also present in natural sciences - see the critics of the falsification principle such as Lakatos