The Future Of Energy Storage Beyond Lithium Ion
Over the past decade, prices for solar panels and wind farms have reached all-time lows. However, the price for lithium ion batteries, the leading energy storage technology, has remained too high. So researchers are exploring other alternatives, including flow batteries, thermal batteries, and gravity-based systems.
CORRECTION (March 14, 2020): At 12:53 we incorrectly identify the size of the energy storage market. Overall, the energy storage market is predicted to attract $620 billion dollars in investments by 2040.
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The Future Of Energy Storage Beyond Lithium Ion
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12:50 “Overall the energy storage market is predicted to attract over $620 million in investments by 2040”. Seriously? That’s an extremely low forecast. Could have been a mistake and they meant billions though. Edit: CNBC has commented below and clarified it was an error and they meant billions not millions. Good on them for doing that.
@onlyeveryone2253
4 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. Would almost make sense if they said billion instead of million.
@USSHammerology
4 жыл бұрын
Never ever be able to replace fossil fuels. Not enough power!! Never ever will there be enough power other than fossil fuels!!!! No matter how you manipulate the words!!!
@mikelary88
4 жыл бұрын
Hammer Ology your perspective is based on technologies available today and not what’s going to be available tomorrow. Your comment is very short-sighted. I’m glad you’re not a person of influence.
@mikelary88
4 жыл бұрын
Joshua T I didn’t even state my perspective. Triggered much??
@mikelary88
4 жыл бұрын
Joshua T you should try drinking some of your own koolaid, as your comment was far more ‘smug’ & aggressive than mine. Thanks for your 2 cents tho. When I feel I need a life coach, I’ll be sure to reach out.
This is the kind of news that I think we need more of. Rather than telling everyone we're doomed, this inspires people and gives them hope.
@AnnAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
I agree
@brianscalabrine7494
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. All we hear usually is “the worlds gonna end and we need to do something” but here there’s actually some solutions being put forth.
@aboriginalmang
4 жыл бұрын
Whats really dooming is politicians doing nothing about it and businesses disregarding the environment.
@pinakibhattacharya5632
3 жыл бұрын
Rightly said.
@vincentconti3633
3 жыл бұрын
We're doomed!!! Sorry! Usually science sites have a better viewer. Nobody abuses me for having a contradictory opinion... thanks people.
Hear me out: Giant cranes moving around blocks of thermally insulated solid state batteries all covered in solar cells
@nathanchildress5596
3 жыл бұрын
It’s so meta it has to work!
@GregTGolden
3 жыл бұрын
Omg...you have to float this idea around silicon valley. Someone is going to give you billions.
@pedropedrohan102
3 жыл бұрын
i had the same idea
@T.K.P.
3 жыл бұрын
This video discusses, energy storage, not energy production, you are confusing these two as 1.
@thefakemarco621
3 жыл бұрын
Problem would be, that the sun isnt shining in all directions at the same time, so you would loose at least half of the energy you could potentialy produce using normal solar panels that trace the sun.
These CNBC video essays are a wealth of knowledge. I love these.
@abhishekdev353
3 жыл бұрын
WSJ also has a lot of these type of mini docs.
Hey, I and my bald spot are in this video starting at 6:04. Maybe link to the video you used from The Good Stuff in the description, CNBC?
@elite1003
4 жыл бұрын
Hey I thought that was you was expecting you to come In at some point but nope they just used your vid lol
@muhammadtauqeer472
4 жыл бұрын
Yooooo
@echoeversky
4 жыл бұрын
Make a claim?
@echoeversky
4 жыл бұрын
You’re also walking towards the cam later on.. ooof.
@CessnaPilot99
4 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised I didn't see any credits. Are they technically allowed to use your short clips like this without credit? I do see a lot of KZreadrs using other KZreadrs content.
This panel can put out close to 100 watts kzread.infoUgkxOqI2yqX0XVrhR2BMJciTWrHJpG8FhJyg when positioned in the appropriate southernly direction, tilted to the optimal angle for your latitude/date, and connected to a higher capacity device than a 500. The built in kickstand angle is a fixed at 50 degrees. Up to 20% more power can be output by selecting the actual date and latitude optimal angle.The 500 will only input 3.5A maximum at 18 volts for 63 watts. Some of the excess power from the panel can be fed into a USB battery bank, charged directly from the panel while also charging a 500. This will allow you to harvest as much as 63 + 15 = 78 watts.If this panel is used to charge a larger device, such as the power station, then its full output potential can be realized.
Congratulations on this major achievement in the delivery of green energy! Thank you for being part of this project. Mega Solar Power Plant - Benban Aswan Egypt .
Videos like these give a good insight in technologies that one might not yet heard of.
@Ahldor
2 жыл бұрын
@just another human But how is energy free? Wind is free, sun is free but the conversion to electricity costs money.
@Ahldor
2 жыл бұрын
@just another human Are you sure that won't upset the balance in the universe?
@Ahldor
2 жыл бұрын
@just another human "no"? - How do you know? Let's atleast admit that we don't have a clue about how "hidden energy fields" work. As for now every single energy source humans have used have lead to environmental problems. I however believe in new reactors using nuclear waste as a primary energy source, in order to get rid of as much long lived waste as possible. In the longer run fusion mught be the best solution. It's better, but not totally "clean". To build machines that could harvest the energy from hidden energy fields might cost alot of money. In comparison; if nuclear fuel was free, it would only lower the cost of nuclear power with 10% or so.
Pumped hydro is one of the most efficient for long-term storage. Usually 80-90% efficiency. But the environmental toll can be large, if we can find good spaces for them (like mountains with low populations) this could be big for this tech.
Keep updating this information as new technologies become available. Don't stop!
One aspect not mentioned here is integration of the grid over long distances. Even if the sun doesn't shine and the wind doesn't blow here, there are other places where they will. If you can distribute electricity over long distances, that also dampens the peaks and troughs, reducing the need for storage. This process is already ongoing in Europe.
@richardnixon7248
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah and what about when it's dark, and the wind is only blowing a little bit in a few countries, but all of Europe needs a lot of energy? Where do you get your baseload energy?
@diedertspijkerboer
2 жыл бұрын
@@richardnixon7248 I understand that several countries are working on large-scale storage solutions that can be used seasonally. It would also make sense to do studies on energy reliability for different sized electrical grids and I bet that's already ongoing. And note that existing fossil energy solutions have their problems too. Just think of the European natural gas situation right now. We will never have a perfect system, what you need to do is compare future options against the existing situation.
@wanbing4254
2 жыл бұрын
In my wildest dream, I've picture what you said into a huge solar/wind system expanding the whole Euroasia continent from Qingdao to Lisbon. It (only) covers 10-hour timezone, maybe not perfect but would be the longest possible. I guess that would need huge international corporation.
@jasonstevenson110
2 жыл бұрын
Transmission is extremely expensive and wipes out the benefit of cheap wind and solar when the wind blows and the sun shines.
@diedertspijkerboer
2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonstevenson110 I'm rather surprised that you say that, since here in Europe, we have an international grid already, so I don't really see where the actual costs would come from. I assume that the US already has a national grid as well.
I have also heard of molten salt as an option. I love the idea of two lakes at an incline to each other. Solar can be used to pump water uphill. Also, rain water can be harvested to fill the ponds.
@grindupBaker
2 жыл бұрын
I'm also pumped about that concept. Needs land area though.
@prateeksharma6706
2 жыл бұрын
What we can do i use a celling fan to make wind and then blow wind mill from that wind
@N0Xa880iUL
2 жыл бұрын
@@prateeksharma6706 right
@ericshen5374
2 жыл бұрын
pump hydro is great, but excessive rainwater may cost problems.
@mucholangs
2 жыл бұрын
@@ericshen5374 The excess rainwater would just flow away like it normally would. That is how dams work.
this is amazing. I would love to learn more about these systems. I wish i had a place where i could look into stuff like this and maybe experiment with it. Maybe i could find something to help push things along.
@skierpage
4 жыл бұрын
It's all physics, chemistry, and engineering. You can read about the Department of Energy (DOE)'s Energy Storage Grand Challenge, which is funding energy storage research and development, then apply to work at the companies involved.
Supper, mind-blowing. What a energy is eden in small knowledge.
Thanks for making this video!!
Pumped hydro is still the name of the game. In my country (Bulgaria) there is one of these systems (which BTW might be the largest in Eastern Europe), consisting of numerous facilities having a total installed capacity of 864 MW. This pumped storage hydro power system can partially ballance the only Bulgarian nuclear power plant which has 2 units with a total capacity of over 2000 MW... In Wikipedia there is an article about it called "Chaira Hydro Power Plant".
@SimonSverige
Жыл бұрын
the few net contributing countries in the EU are in a lot of debt to pay for all these projects which, so far, are leaving the EU broke and lost without Russian gas.
Imagine Energy Vault stacking ESS Shipping Container batteries. Long and short term energy storage at the same time :)
@N0Xa880iUL
2 жыл бұрын
Yep such hybrid ideas sound really cool
About 10 years ago I was basing my university level student projects on the development of a FESS for use in the third world. My brief was that it must require minimal maintenance, it must have high energy density, it should be used for decades - even centuries with no loss of storage capacity or efficiency and it must be totally sustainable, require abundant and cheap materials and totally un-toxic to the planet - a challenging brief which only the FESS designs (or mechanical gravity based) designs come anywhere close to fulfilling. Over several years of development, we decided that it was much better to go for low angular velocity (
@pascaltimmann2682
Жыл бұрын
Hello Richard. I did not find you, but could you if your offer still stands write me on Linkedin :) ? I am writing a thesis and would like to have a look
@richardventus1875
Жыл бұрын
@@pascaltimmann2682 - OK - I've sent you a LinkedIn connect invite.
Always important to keep in mind lifecycle and raw material requirement. How long do solar panels last before degradation? How much steel has to be smelted to create a windmill? How much concrete has to be poured to create the base? Look at the NET product, not just at the end. Likewise, I hope the energy storage methods are environmentally friendly and low resource production cost.
@coziii.1829
2 жыл бұрын
For me which I have Wind Water Solar power , it off grid and I just don’t want company interference government interference. I have propane generator back up as well I’m free not doomed to the will of someone else . Going green is crazy we just swap what we want to destroy. Everyone just pics what poison they want . Everyone just needs there own power not governments
@karene5577
Жыл бұрын
So do pipelines. So do nuclear power plants etc. The iron salt water one in a transport truck is a very easy scale. Water related storage through lakes has always provided beauty even with large scale. Providing safe & renewal storage is important but we need to keep understanding its about improving on other systems, spills, fires, cost etc.
@anxiousearth680
Жыл бұрын
Solar panels are typically guaranteed at about 80-90% efficiency after 20 years. Recycling is possible but the industry for it is still developing as far as I know.
Alternate chemistries really should be used for static applications. This would have a number of valuable side effects. 1) The materials used in these alternate batteries are often common and cheap. They include ZnBr, SbCa, Fe, V and the up and coming Na batteries, 2) Most of the alternative batteries have much longer lives than Li batteries. Their only disadvantage, I can see, is that they don't have quite the cycle efficiency of Li batteries. 3) Using alternative chemistries for static applications would decrease the demand for Li and bring the cost of Li batteries down and hence the cost of EVs, thus making EVs available to a wider range of people. 4) Using other chemistries would bring the price of these non-Li batteries down below the price of Li batteries. They use common cheap elements and all they need is production volume to achieve very low costs. 5) Most of these batteries based on elements other than Li can be cycled from 0% to 100% charge without damage and hence all the energy stored in the battery is available to you, unlike Li batteries. 6) most of the alternatives are safer in terms of fire. They can be shipped, even by plane and certainly by ship in containers with no risk. Most of them can be safely used in a house (basement for instance) or in a factory. With Li batteries, it is wise to use have them outside, just in case. Extra land does not always exist for a battery unit.
I really like the idea of compressed air and compressed air to liquid storege in the process of liquefying air you can squeeze out the CO2 or scrub out the CO2 in that process. There is the potential to have duelality of power storege and global CO2 sequestration.
@taylorjohnson4943
3 жыл бұрын
It simplifies many of the other chemical processes involved with the actual. Bonding of CO2 with the higher concentrations of CO2.
@Queen-dl5ju
3 жыл бұрын
im a bigger fan of molten salt!
@taylorjohnson4943
3 жыл бұрын
@@Queen-dl5ju for a higher temperatures applications yes I agree. But there is really very simple designs involved with liquid air. But as I had pointed out. Duel purpose applications with the liquid air. Molten salt on its own for power storage Hmm 🤔 I would have to have a closer look at the efficiencies.
Thankyou for recording this ❤
9:27. That is an ingenious way of storing power, cool.
If electrons move through graphene like massless particles, this implies no energy loss through heat and the potential for a VERY long storage. Obviously, the most efficient battery conceivable would have this property. By twisting a long sheet of graphene densely into a cylinder-shape and isolating the edges well, you'd pretty much have the perfect battery, made out of pure carbon. It's just a matter of how long it takes to come up with a cost efficient graphene technology.
@mackhaio5
2 жыл бұрын
bill nye the science guy discovered that the electrons dobt move at all, just a controlled magnetic current we named Eddie Current. remember magnetisim can bend light.... and it dossnt believe 100% in gravity either... science
The crane energy looks like a disaster waiting to happen......
@c31979839
4 жыл бұрын
The crane energy storage solution has been debunked multiple times. The math just doesn't add up. That's why it's only an animation, and not a real product.
@TheRoidemortetfleur
4 жыл бұрын
I liked it. It is less dangerous than a high rise, since it isn't hollow. My only problem is why? We only have 2% green energy. They keep pretending we have all this energy to store. Harnessing energy still isn't that easy.
@IonorReasSpamGenerator
4 жыл бұрын
Considering that cranes cannot operate in heavy winds, it's pretty dull to depend on energy storage that cannot operate in heavy winds other than to complement wind farms...
@moo3oo3oo3
4 жыл бұрын
@@c31979839 Can you link your sources please?
@TheRoidemortetfleur
4 жыл бұрын
Good point. Unless you are talking a solar farm in an arid area. I would use an enclosed structure and blocks within. Water would be a possible hazard if container broke. On top of the container could be the solar or wind to power the internal crane.
thank you for recording this ❤
Power Wauh´er - I am with You on this! Man, man! - we don´t need to crawl any much longer! HYPE!
So excited for the future of energy - thanks for this great video!
This gravity storage method has been BUSTED by 'Voice of Thunder'
@Delfontes
4 жыл бұрын
Just looking for this comment...
@BBEros
4 жыл бұрын
@@Delfontes Mee toooo... T Maaaannnnn .... We love dat guy
@generalsteam1120
4 жыл бұрын
I cant find it, can i get a link please?
@aBusybee
4 жыл бұрын
Thunderfoot
@jesseh1677
4 жыл бұрын
@@generalsteam1120 kzread.info/dash/bejne/gH2cpdezqLHcppM.html
The most difficult task for energy storage technology is to overcome the influence on bureaucrats of the vested interests in existing electrical energy utilities. Even if an energy storage solution is better for the consumer, powerful lobbies to maintain the status quo will be hard to overcome.
Thank you so much for such kind of video
5:00 It would be 5kWh to measure capacity, that's the instant power delivery
6:53 That’s definitely Wheezy Waiter.
This is beautiful, I'm so excited about the future of energy storage🤗
very informative!
"The sea was angry that day my friends, like an old man trying to send back soup in a deli."
@ab3040
4 жыл бұрын
I don't get it
@severusrogue259
4 жыл бұрын
@@ab3040 it's a Seinfeld reference I think
@ab3040
4 жыл бұрын
@@severusrogue259 oh. That's why.
@jbw6823
4 жыл бұрын
I looked into the the eye of the great fish
@hamentaschen
4 жыл бұрын
@@jbw6823 "Mammal" "Whatever"
Very great! So glad to see solar items being worked on
I’m glad someone smart is working on this , because I have no idea what is going on .
@saebyeokhusband3913
3 жыл бұрын
😂😂🤣
I like the idea of Tesla's virtual power plant far more than I do off site storage.
Energy Vault - when will it move past the CGI cartoon phase? Just sayin’.
Energy Vault wonder how wind would affect the placement of the blocks cos it would end up being jenga in a storm
Good summary
Amazing!!!! Thank you!!!
Any legitimate analysis would include the ultimate costs of dealing with the toxic battery components once they lose production capacity and are tossed.
@Pyrochemik007
4 жыл бұрын
This is not anything like analysis, they just listed random projects, and the part they shown is only a small part of larger problem, there are solutions to ups and downs in production in getting a source of energy which can be started anytime - like water dams, or gas power plants. This source then complements for the weaknesses of solar or wind, much cheaper than anything else.
@rollerskdude
4 жыл бұрын
Butt tossing stuff is free. Wouldn't that just be a replacement/recycling cost.
@Pyrochemik007
4 жыл бұрын
@@rollerskdude If you toss away lithium battery we run out of it. Lithium is not easy to extract sinc eit is quite soluble in any form, once it gets disolved in seawater it is lost to us forever.
@bamiebal6242
4 жыл бұрын
When this is scaled up and enough waste volume is being produced it becomes economically very viable to recyle the materials to build new things instead of mining.
@AnalystPrime
4 жыл бұрын
@@Pyrochemik007 Nope. Any claims that we are short on lithium are false or a sign that a person doesn't know what they are talking about. We can in fact extract it easily from seawater too, all that takes is energy, and if we don't have enough batteries for storage, then we obviously have lots of free solar and wind power just asking to be used.
There's a reason why none of these alternative storage technologies have managed to displace lithium-ion battery: they all have some sort of tradeoff. In this video, flow batteries are said to be "Cost-competitive" with lithium-ion. In other words, they cost the same over the long term. If their lifespan is longer than lithium-ion, then that means a much higher up-front cost. But look at their density: ESS needs a whole shipping container just to store 400 kWh, many times more space than is required by lithium-ion solutions. In other words, it costs the same, but is worse. In order for alternative power storage to succeed, it is not enough to merely be as good, or as cheap. It must either be better, or cheaper, or both. None of the alternatives in this video have demonstrated that so far.
@redstar151
4 жыл бұрын
TBH everyone is waiting till Tesla Battery day.
@pigtailsboy
4 жыл бұрын
The iron salt water battery seemed worth it for recycling and repurposing.
@GTSN38
4 жыл бұрын
We need nuclear power
@Schoolship.
4 жыл бұрын
@Jeff Holland jeff lol how does it feel to be alive in the early 1900's?
@GTSN38
4 жыл бұрын
Jeff, you're absolutely right because there is too much money to be made and no viable alternatives
Lovely surprise to hear Ingrid Nilsen's voice
Man, those lego-tower batteries building and unbuilding themselves seems incredibly silly, but is actually genius. I want to see if there's a way to get smart parking garages that work like this. If you park at a peak production hour, a crane raises the car up to the top floor, then when you need it back, the crane lowers it to produce energy. I doubt this is more practical than the current brick strategy, but it's fun to imagine.
5:26 4:07 I thought she would say graphene battery, lol.
@vicyelt7551
3 жыл бұрын
Graphene would never make it in terms of cost
@yoelmaxance8760
3 жыл бұрын
@@vicyelt7551 flash graphene is gonna change that
@raymondtonkin6755
3 жыл бұрын
Good luck Fossil fuel replacement is huge to replace and the infrastructure too ! You need to directly store and collect energy at the quantum level!
@raymondtonkin6755
3 жыл бұрын
@Cecelia Hops wrong scale ,oh yeh definitely not the a genius though!
Good compilation of pipe dreams.
Good information 👍
Many people talked about the demise of the lead acid battery for a long time. But it never went away. We will use li-ion batteries for a long time yet.
@davidhobbs5679
3 жыл бұрын
In fairness, they are talking utility scenarios, something that Li-ion doesn't really do. For small scall energy dense applications Li-ion is still better. Its more about cost at large scale compared to other mor bulky alternatives.
Giant hamsters in giant hamster wheels -- now *THAT*'s the future of renewable energy. I'm surprised they missed that one :-)
@jonathanrocha779
4 жыл бұрын
I know most people might think you're and idiot and probably joking but I honestly think you are a genius the hard part is convincing people to try it out
@danfergo
4 жыл бұрын
That wouldn't be very good, because you would have to feed the hamsters. And Giant hamsters, require a lot of food XD
@Raylen_Fa-ield
4 жыл бұрын
I like it, but change the hamster's into human, that make money for doing it.
@68walter
4 жыл бұрын
Great idea! However, the radioactivity of those mutants is harmful to humans. You have to keep them underground...
@dorianshadesofgray2981
4 жыл бұрын
These giant hamsters already exist in the form of gym junkies who run or cycle miles on treadmills and exercise bikes
“Hydrogen Storage” The video was beautifully made and informative. The only thing is that you forgot the hydrogen generation and storage as one of the biggest changes that will probably happen.
@waynesmith1490
3 жыл бұрын
Amin R, things have changed in hydrogen storage and high pressure (15000 psi)carbon fiber tanks are now able to be replaced with low pressure tanks more in line with scuba tanks for the same mass in hydrogen. Stay tuned and be watching the progress in energy storage using hydrogen
@vincentrobinette1507
3 жыл бұрын
Another thing missed, is flywheel inertial energy storage. Hydrogen energy storage isn't nearly as efficient as batteries are, or flywheels are likely to be. I don't dismiss it, I'm sure the efficiency will improve. The fact is, no ONE technology could do it alone. We need so much energy storage, that we will need all forms of energy storage. Nothing's off the table!
@bouzouSG
2 жыл бұрын
@@vincentrobinette1507 yeah batteries efficient but short storage duration, hydrogen not so efficient but long duration. Whats your pick?
I'm also excited Sustainable energy vibes 🤙🤘❤️
Another major technology would be inertial energy storage. (Flywheel). The technologies most likely to be adopted, will be the ones with the highest round trip efficiency, and lowest levelized cost per kWh of energy storage. (the cost of the system + maintenance/kWh stored and expended over its service life) Of all of them, batteries and flywheels can respond the quickest, to sudden changes in supply or demand.
It will be exciting to see 10 years from now when the grid contains all these different types of utility scale battery farms!
6:53 The perfect WheezyWaiter impersonator.
@CuriousEarthlings
4 жыл бұрын
I saw that and shat my self
@mattlovespeanuts
3 жыл бұрын
Literally thought the same thing. Someone needs to let him know.
Super insightful
very intereseting, thank oyu
8:11 I see you in there, Python.
Just bloody fascinating!
Good topic to discuss now. I should also hop on this and maybe look at batteries 🔋 or solar panels und ther microscope. Wish you all a good week!
Great piece
13:40 - 20%, peak demand means power (W), storage is energy (Wh). This doesn't make sense.
@andrenewcomb3708
3 жыл бұрын
It does to comic book super crooks.
This is what I love about the United States of America! A country that takes the lead in innovative research. I hope this technology becomes cheaper in near future. It will indeed free my country from the incessant power failures and poor energy infrastructure. Thank you America. More power to the scientist.
@fahadayub6696
2 жыл бұрын
Good
@sixtus9559
2 жыл бұрын
More so every western nation has its ideas and companies and an American media house promotes and American company
Also, one could develop a geothermal battery for future electricity production for very large-scale renewable energy storage.
How would machine vision assist with the gravity-based storage system?
These are the type of videos I wish my chemistry teacher showed in high school.
I think this going to be a real Occam's razor solution that we find on the energy front. The tech is good but expensive to develop and I have questions about its long term utility being dependant on fluctuating markets of material costs. I think the pumped hydro or the energy vault solutions will be the ones that stand out in the long term. Very innovative!
@N0Xa880iUL
2 жыл бұрын
Mmm Occam's razor is a philosophical tool. There's basically nothing philosophical about the analysis of energy solutions.
We also need to focus on creating the power through microgens at point of use.
PV ground bracket +Easy and fast installation without punch holes. Match 980mm-1134mm width solar module.
"The future is not a mirror of the past", let's meditate on that for a moment ...
@sonyphotoguy6601
3 жыл бұрын
And tell it the conservatives in all countries...
It is really cool to recognize in which kind of future we can live!!!
@PistonAvatarGuy
4 жыл бұрын
One where we messed around with ineffective, Rube Goldberg energy production systems for so long that we caused a catastrophic warming event?
@tiredofbs6835
4 жыл бұрын
@bowblizz Maybe you need to go to church and pray for forgiveness, move into a cave and eat raw uncooked tree bark. While you are at it, throw away your carbon foot print laptop, cell phone and sell your car. You will enjoy washing in the nearby stream running with polluted cold water. At least we will not have to read or hear from you anymore. Do not forget to run around screaming "the sky is falling" as loud as possible.
@PistonAvatarGuy
4 жыл бұрын
@@tiredofbs6835 Facts don't care about your feelings, bud.
I'm amazed by the ingenuity of human scientists and engineers!
There is an opportunity to change domestic electrical appliances over to DC, thus avoiding the need to use inverters to create AC power. Then it would be possible to encourage many distributed battery storage systems into people's homes. Lighting refrigerators and consumer electronics can all use this source. Cooking and laundry need grid power, but you can encourage off peak consumption for some of this load. Governments need to regulate to force the change here. If half the new build housing in the U.K. Was built this way around 100,000 more energy flexible homes per annum would start to make a difference.
“Keeelowatts”
I still think pump storage is underrated
@HAMID___
4 жыл бұрын
Conroy Boothe not really
@kristiansyren3917
4 жыл бұрын
@@HAMID___ "I think" - no
@reelreflections1
4 жыл бұрын
Pump hydro is all but reliable tech, granted. However, it's not as efficient as the stirage that will be needed in 2040 and beyond. The inefficiency comes from the cost. Its exoensive to build by MWh and expensive to run if you're buying electricity to oumo back up hill, even if you buy excess generation cheaply. It takes mote energy up to the top reservoir than it generates when water is released towards tha bottom resevoir. That makes the electricity generated more expensive than other sources. The only way hydrology generation is efficient and cheap is when you dam a strong running river and release water constantly. The generation virtually runs itself. A great example of that is URUGUAY. Most if their energy is hydro. One of tge cleanest countries on Earth when it comes to electricity. Emission per capita in Uruguay are 1.9 tons Australia and the USA are hovering at ovet 20 tons per person.
@mariusvanc
3 жыл бұрын
It's incredibly inefficient, both at storing AND generating.
@dylanhecker6686
Ай бұрын
@@reelreflections1okay name a energy storage that is 100% efficient
Good search reporting
If Shell invests in something, you can also be assured that its capacity to displace or replace fossil fuels is basically nil. It's the most basic litmus test for the viability of new energy tech.
@tray6441
3 жыл бұрын
Why do you say that? I’m just curious is all
Startup 1- "our gimmicky approach is the best approach". Startup 2 - "Wrong. Our gimmicky approach is the best approach". Startup 3 - "NO! Our gimmicky approach is the best approach!".
@flt528
4 жыл бұрын
Ok, then tell us about the non-gimmicky approach that you've invented and are developing.
Wake me up when I can buy one under 5k to store enough to go 3 days when there's a power outage
@MrWackozacko
4 жыл бұрын
If you could buy one for 5k you would chop your powerlines off at your house so you dont have to pay a connection fee for nothing. If it's legal where you live.
@julesmoore1170
3 жыл бұрын
Look at a company called voltstorage. They are selling vrfb batteries for houses
@samsonite8017
3 жыл бұрын
@@julesmoore1170 Yeah, wake me up when they reply to my 'Request an offer' query (I'll try to have some faith, I just posted it now). I'm in the camp of off-grid customer where grid-tie isn't even an option. We need more consumer focused solutions in this space. Industrial solutions only keep alive more of the same culture of a big power company binding people to cloud power, and a monthly bill.
@Bayliss21
3 жыл бұрын
You'll be sleeping forever. The laws of physics aren't changing anytime soon. The only reason these companies exist is to waste tax dollars.
@leonzhang7821
2 жыл бұрын
Gonna be sleeping for a century
Chef's kiss. These technologies are wonderful and should have more money & resources put into their development.
I stumbled on this as I want my Narrow Boat totally off grid. A mate of mine thinks I am crazy to go away from 240 hook up. I have peak 500 watts solar. I can also invest In wind power as my winter mooring is well a bit windy. Plus can also charge off the boat engine alternater. Twelve volt. I am not too sure about LIFO battery yet I understand they don't like the cold. I think this video is brilliant, so many good ideas, but I guess it is back to Beta Max VHS again. Exciting times.
5:00 "Provides 25 kilowatts of power" I think this is a mistake because this isn't a measurement of capacity. I think you mean 25 kilowatt hours, but that's almost nothing, so I'm not really sure what you meant. Also as a side note those shipping container sized "Energy Warehouses" are only 400 kilowatt hours each. That's insanely tiny, equivalent to the batteries in 4 electric cars. From a battery the size of a shipping container, I would expect more.
@HSFY2012
3 жыл бұрын
25kW is not nothing, and "providing 25kW of power" is not talking about capacity, but the draw of power.
@Pax.Britannica
3 жыл бұрын
@@HSFY2012 Dude, he said 25KWh is almost nothing. And it is. That's about the amount of energy a persons eats in 10 days. Hornsdale Power Reserve looks to have 108 power banks, and stores 194MWh. That's almost a Megawatt of power per device. And since we're talking about energy storage devices, it's reasonable for OP to assume they were talking about capacity.
@phamnuwen9442
3 жыл бұрын
Chemical storage tech is millions of times less energy dense than uranium. Uranium is also already pre-charged by the universe. What drives these silly battery fantasies is subsidies and the criminalization of nuclear.
@bertrandbolin7097
2 жыл бұрын
Yes. They confuse power (kW) with energy (kWh). This is high school level knowledge to separate the two... I'm disappointed and this gravely affects how I value this video and perhaps also other items by CNBC. They haven't even bothered to make correction about this in the video description...
These are so cool, this is the kind of thing I want to invest in
@infini_ryu9461
3 жыл бұрын
I'd be skeptical if I were you. Ideas like Energy Vault's simply cannot work. A lot of these are just scams.
After thinking a bit longer, imo...All of the above! Location considerations expanded my view. All of the above 'IF' they are seamlessly linked together, yet maintain their individual integrity as a stand-alone company with contracts that provide locally first and foremost, and main grid tied to go out to the mass market. No MONOPOLY money for the uber power companies. Innovations come from a place of emotional attachment to an idea, and an iron will to get there if the reward has personal value in any form at the end of the challenge. An inventor that owns the results of failure vs success will endeavor to perfect the innovation, and as rapidly as possible Innovation, with defects can be 'purchased' but as with many careers, purchased inventors drag out the process 'till just before retirement.
Fantastic!!!
Good Video 👍
What about storing it as hydrogen? Small amounts of hydrogen can be stored in pressurized vessels, or solid metal hydrides or nanotubes can store hydrogen with a very high density. Very large amounts of hydrogen can be stored in constructed underground salt caverns of up to 500,000 cubic meters at 2,900 psi, which would mean about 100 GWh of stored electricity electricity.
@goggy8293
3 жыл бұрын
yap, it will be the future
@linuxman7777
2 жыл бұрын
Alot of energy loss, compared to pumped hydro or batteries. But if we are looking at a future of abundant electricity, Hydrogen isn't a bad idea, because it isn't geography dependent like pumped hydro
This vid does an amazing job at illustrating how we can invent our way out of problems.
@jasonc6194
2 жыл бұрын
They will once Nano One and Tesla team up. Batteries will be much cheaper soon. Check out Nano One Materials Corp. Thank me later.
@diedertspijkerboer
2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonc6194 Just reread your comment. If I had bought that stock when you commented and sold it today, I definitely would not have thanked you. Fortunately, I never make financial decisions based on KZread comments.
Advantages and disadvantages of geothermal energy 💥 explain content over this please
Cheapest and longest living storage technology is Pumped hydro storage.
@rekky213
4 жыл бұрын
Was already nixed quite a few years ago in the state of WA. Refer to the proposed Blackrock Dam project off of the Columbia River.
@roboparks
3 жыл бұрын
@@rekky213 No what's funny were still paying the Tax for that .
Now this is the video I wanted to see
@aaronstone6183
4 жыл бұрын
@@LegendLength Nah, maybe it's one of their boys/employees.
Maybe for bigger power storage it would be more efficient (especially for wind turbines) to use big high-pressure air tanks?
Just wicked!!
6:53 WheezyWaiter?
My fear is that we'll rush into solar and wind before the energy storage problem is solved. Tesla building LI batteries in South Australia seems to indicate it doesn't really have a real grasp on the situation.
Flow battery 4:14 Iron flow batteries 6:10 Pumped hydro 8:17 Gravity batteries 9:02 Thermal Storage 10:26 Thermo Photovoltaic Cell 11:09 Compressed air 11:58 Cryogenic Storage 12:04
What about the double helix type coiled copper interwined like that of a motor to generate propulsion, can that by its magnetism be utilized in wind turbine or umm a ways to create much kore energy into a storage based battery with elements included ib li ion like graphene, quartz, copper, and a liquid able type base for negative ion and positive ion disposition? When in use of that some type of battery
The tech for the 21st century is "Liquid Air." That's air not wind. Air is free, you can't beat free !!!
@zopEnglandzip
2 жыл бұрын
Completely agree, could also be used for vehicle propulsion