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@thomasmason2926

4 жыл бұрын

Vesc accessory and bms set up

@chrisgayle1623

4 жыл бұрын

Feature the direct drive motor on a build! Really looking to use this over hub motors! Just built a 12s4p hub motor setup. Would love to sell, and go for an upgrade

@chrisgayle1623

4 жыл бұрын

Can you make a video explaining how a Bluetooth module works? And compatibility?

@esk8jaimes

4 жыл бұрын

Make an overview to Esk8 for non-riders, you know those people who are scared of this technology...

@hakenly

4 жыл бұрын

Do a direct drive build from scratch for the fastest speed setup

For the ESC enclosure you sell on your website, where do you get the battery indicator that connects to those plug and play ESCs that is included with the enclosure? Because I can only find them without the wired connection with the display only

Look really nice for a clean set-up

"Cool!" *Checks price* *$500+* "Eh nevermind"

@MBoardsco

4 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately direct Drives aren’t cheap. Typical price range is $650+.

@waterdropssify

3 жыл бұрын

@@MBoardsco What makes them so pricey though, seems less components then belt and less specific than hub motor, yet it costs a fortune

@lilletizz

3 жыл бұрын

@@waterdropssify New technology..

Thanks for everything you do Mike.

Your video is awesome man. Super educational 👍

Hi, I need a Direct Drive for Wowgo 2s HobbyWing ESC. What are my options? Thanks.

Question though. how well would these adapt to mountainboard wheels? because this got me curious about it.

Thanks for all the videos bro... Just one quick question, if we use the vesc to limit the belt driven motor's rpm (let's say to 3040), would that give us more torque than a setup with the same wattage output but rpm on the motor's default values (9120 out of 48v * 190kv)?

What are the 5 cables that run into the white connector good for and where do the connect to on the (V)ESC?

I would really like if there was more specifications on the website on these motors. I don't even know how many polar pairs there are

Nice stuff. Are the specs on your website describing the total of both motors or are for each one? Please make it explicit there.

I love the deck that I se in the 4:48 minutes. What wheels, axes and deck are?? Thanks

Will your system work with hobby wing esc?

My M1 Inboard hub just died after almost 2,000 miles on them. I could try replacing them, but man does this new piece of technology look fun!

I have a vintage k2 kickboard and The wanted to convert it to a e skateboard set up.. any suggestions on part or ideas would be greatly appreciated...

I knew this was coming and I’m excited. Love these motors. Also that board at 4:44 the build looks so clean. Where’d you get the deck?

@MBoardsco

4 жыл бұрын

It’s actually a cheap downhill deck from skateshred.com.

Cool video. I’ve been interested in making a kit I can take on/off my board when I’m on the go. Direct drive seems to be the way to go in terms of being able to accomplish this. I downhill skateboard and would love to not have to drive around to each hill or get so beat pushing long boring roads.

I could not find a direct drive kit on your website. Assuming they are hard to get right now? Thanks for the video!

I definitely wanna try this

@MBoardsco

4 жыл бұрын

Can’t recommend it enough 😍

Hei ! Can we push the boad easyly when the battery is off? sorry for my english!

What are the biggest m board belt motors that fit on 10” wide caliber trucks?

Does anyone have the parts build on the board shown at the end of the vid, the almost silent board.

Got a Backfire Zealot the other day (belt driven). I love the direct drives but most of the boards I've seen have them too low to the ground for my taste. In a couple years I'm sure they'll be even better as well as cheaper, so I'll ditch the Zealot around then and get a dank direct drive board (=

what about the battery protecting case mount?

Thank you for this video. I kept hearing about direct drive but no one explained it. So does direct drive have good torque or more torque than belt driven boards.

@nathandavis1093

4 жыл бұрын

I would imagine they have the same torque as belt drive motors but without the belts

@Monstertweaks

2 жыл бұрын

Love your channel! It will be a bit more torque due to the loss of the belt tension

@MBoardsco

2 жыл бұрын

Belt driven will have more torque due to the gearing ratio. Direct drives are limited to a 1:1 gearing ratio whereas belt driven set ups can adopt any gearing ratio.

What is the freespin like Vs resistance on belt? I'm thinking direct drive with some Bronson Shieldless Bearings. Thinking get up to speed and might get to coast for a long time. I ride GTR with AT's and only coast on steep hills. On throttle next to 24/7. Interested in direct drive but yeah still not sure.

@MBoardsco

3 жыл бұрын

Direct Drives definitely freely spin much much better than any belt set up. Much less resistance!

What’s your opinion about Kegel wheels?

If I get ur Direct drive would I be able to put the Mountain wheels on them I can't find any videos thst you did that since if I go on a Dirt road I dont think it will be good on a pully System since it going to get dirt Smalle rocks On the pulley itself what would you recommend and is it easy to go from Mountain wheels then back to regular Wheels

@MBoardsco

3 жыл бұрын

Working on AT wheel adapters now. Samples will be getting approved in a couple weeks. 👍🏻

Hey, do direct-drive motors roll freely like hub motors? (unlike belt drive which has a lot of resistance)

@MBoardsco

4 жыл бұрын

Yes they roll freely 👍🏻

I’m so glad I ended up choosing belt over hubs on my diy after riding my friends backfire with hub motors

@QbertTehKiller

2 жыл бұрын

Can you elaborate on why

love it

Is no one going to mention the almost non-existent ground clearance of the direct drive motor housing?

@MBoardsco

4 жыл бұрын

Adding larger wheels eliminates this issue. I currently have 100mm wheels installed and it works great 👍🏻

@remyslosse1392

4 жыл бұрын

It would have been nice to mention the ground clearance problem in the pros and cons arguments, as adding 100mm wheels eliminate it but lower the torque...

@troyl5929

4 жыл бұрын

@@remyslosse1392 most people dont care much about torque when the added comfort of large wheels is a very nice change, also get a little more top speed.

@enginesandmore1013

4 жыл бұрын

@@MBoardsco adding larger wheels also means you gonne lose the torq advantage you had by using a bigger motor 🙄

@chuckmaddison2924

4 жыл бұрын

This is one thing I have thought about. I have been thinking of a DD swap.

Hey Mike, I was really set on buying a prebuilt electric skateboard, but you're really making me reconsider. Watching this video, I believe that I would definitely want to go the direct drive route. However, I'm having a tough time finding tutorials on how to build a skateboard around this system. Could you please do a DIY build with a direct drive? Thanks!

@MBoardsco

3 жыл бұрын

Yes definitely need to use these in a build. They’re actually very easy to install. It’s as easy as attaching the trucks to a deck and plugging in the phase wires to an ESC. Definitely on the easier side of building.

Do you have some plans to produce bigger and softer sleeves for your hub motors?

@sebkabob

4 жыл бұрын

He doesnt produce anything. He buys and resells

You can change wheel sizes on hub motors I just got some 120mm cloud wheels for my wowgo 3

looks like the biggest advantage here is added wheel selection and full spec wheel shock absorption. A hub motor could be longer and stick out of the wheel sleeve while not compromising on ground clearance as much.

Using a 12s setup, What size wheel would you use to achieve the claimed 35+ mph top speed?

@MBoardsco

4 жыл бұрын

120mm wheels will be the easiest way to get a fast top speed while still using the stock adapters.

Are direct drive motor waterproof ? My hubs are, but I would love real wheels over sleeves, but I'm constantly ridin in wet conditions ...

@robertkelly5391

3 жыл бұрын

motors themselves are pretty splash resistant, it's the electronics that need to stay dry.

Hey, I was looking at the direct drive kit, and the hobbywing esc you have on your website. Does the esc put out enough amps to support the direct drive? It says 22A on the website, but the website also says it is for the dd, which needs 55 amps not 22. I was just wondering if this is important, or if it is bottlenecking the dd kit. Ive got a 35a esc which is better, but nor sure if it can support the kit either...

@MBoardsco

3 жыл бұрын

Yes the Hobbywing ESC would bottleneck the DD Kit. To push the DD kit to its full potential a pair of Vescs would be better.

@steelavocado1

3 жыл бұрын

MBoards thanks for replying! I’m slowly upgrading my current board and can’t wait until I upgrade the motors. The dd kit looks like a beast!

Seems great but if you run over a stone/gravel surely the motor can easily be damaged or the entire shaft bent? Best regards

@MBoardsco

4 жыл бұрын

Using larger diameter wheels will prevent this 👍🏻

So can you put one on each side 4w direct drive? If that makes any sense?

@s0mul

4 жыл бұрын

I know that with the revel kit you can

Looks like a decent product but you neglected to mention their biggest problem, the lack of clearance. How durable is the outer part of the motor? How would it react to concrete rash?

@MBoardsco

4 жыл бұрын

Clearance can be an issue but the bigger the wheels you put on the more clearance you’ll have 😎

@ArtimusPrime

4 жыл бұрын

What about a skid plate? That would fix that problem. And it wouldn’t add much weight. You could even use plastic just something that keeps SOMETHING between the motor bell and asphalt or whatever you are riding on (rocks, dirt, etc)

@shane0yourgod

4 жыл бұрын

Artimus Prime then there would be pretty much no clearance.

@sageoz9886

4 жыл бұрын

It would be easy to make durable and replaceable skid plates. For similar projects I've been using kitchen cutting 'boards' that come in four packs with primary colors that are only about 1mm thick yet are very tough, but it could be as cheap as some 2liter bottles.

@warrenhammer7262

2 жыл бұрын

I got one of these sets second-hand, and the motors have all sorts of scratches on the bottom. You'll definitely need bigger wheels.

Perhaps a silly question but could I install these on my Evolve GT? Are there boards like my Evolve with direct drive to buy if you do not want to build a board? Thank you

@MBoardsco

4 жыл бұрын

I’m not 100% on how the stock evolve ESC would react to the direct drives. But I would guess that they would work with some adapting of connectors. Worst case, an ESC would need to be replaced as well. But definitely possible 👍🏻

@linaandersson5815

4 жыл бұрын

@@MBoardsco Thank you!

Did you have a store at Taiwan?

My only concern is how close the motors are to the ground. Do you think 120mm tires would give enough clearance?

@MBoardsco

3 жыл бұрын

Yes 120mm are perfect for these

Can you put 6'' or 7'' pneumatic tired wheels on a direct drive motor?

@MBoardsco

4 жыл бұрын

It is possible, but you’d need to make your own wheel adapter.

What are your thoughts on the torqueboards DD system?

@MBoardsco

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve heard good things, wish we could get the price to come down a bit though.

I got a esc+remote and a motor from your site, how long does it usually take? It hasn’t even been shipped I ordered a week ago.(San Fran)

@MBoardsco

4 жыл бұрын

We’re back in the swing of things after the holiday weekend. Keep an eye on your email for tracking data!

What about the ground clearance on direct-drive boards

I have hub motors, yes they do feel a little harsh. but on the noise /sound, i love the sound of the Razor with gear drive . only about 16 KPH but the sound. Like a 747 winding up. The other thing is people hear you coming,

@joshdimovski4483

2 жыл бұрын

Im having a problem decideding between a belt drive or direct drive skateboard, I like both setup's 😂, the silent and the loud.

@chuckmaddison2924

2 жыл бұрын

@@joshdimovski4483 I ride a lot around the lake where I live. There is a lot of crap from trees ( seed pods ) and some gravel with hub I don't worry about belts breaking.. The twin motors do get me up a fairly steep hill at home. The belt would go up bit quicker but not enough to debate. My board is rated at 3000 watt top speed 35 kph. I have measured at 37. One thing you should consider is trucks , reverse king pin are more stable at high speed. Standard kingpins carve better. Double kingpins very carvey but stability drops.

I want to buy a direct drive skateboard but can't find anything on the market (since the Raptor 2 is not being sold.) However I don't know how to to build a DIY board. Could you give a tutorial on how to build this exact board in this video? It looks perfect.

@MBoardsco

4 жыл бұрын

Shoot us an email! We’d be happy to walk you through it 😎 support@mboards.co

I would love to see how you demontage a complete truck

Yes! I voted for that thumbnail XD

@MBoardsco

4 жыл бұрын

😎

Can we get a version without the double king pin truck? They're great for off road, but I've heard from a few reviewers that its similar to a car, where your more planted to the ground and get less speed wobbles with a lower stance truck.

How long does it take the kit to ship

@MBoardsco

4 жыл бұрын

The Direct Drives are in stock and ship right away 😎

Are they powerful? What about the torque

can you make a video for RUNAJOY Belt Drive Motors Electric Skateboard? I see a new Belt Drive Motors Electric Skateboard sell on amazon

Hey Mike make a video of you perfect board set up, probably use a loaded deck, 12s battery and direct drive!

@MBoardsco

4 жыл бұрын

Great idea 😎 Will put this in our ideas notes 👍🏻

Can you make a interstellar build tutorial using direct drive motors and using 2 vescs instead of a esc? I want to do that build myself and also fit into the enclosure a 12 s 4 p battery with a charge status led, also other then the obvious choice using shred lights can you include wiring in chstom led strip for the sides or front and back lighting for braking abd seeing ahead in the dark and one more big ask? How about a horn function for the board that can be activated by the remote or another simple on off blutooth device, so many times i have needed a horn to alert a careless driver and a born that would be loud enough to get their attention would be amazing thanks for making a the content your channel is so good to watch and learn more about how to do diy on your owb board

@MBoardsco

3 жыл бұрын

Set up is almost identical. We have a tutorial on dual VESC set ups on our channel already. And a FocBox and a 12s4p will fit in the XL enclosure if you want to go that route.

I got an important question. These direct drives are from eLofty skateboards, its a fairly new chinese brand and there were some issues with their quality control kzread.info/dash/bejne/d4aNvKayn8S_Y84.html also many people on the esk8 forum have complained about the cutomer service from their chinese contact person Kenna. I'm very interested in this new direct drives but worried about reliabilty, so i would like to know if you have tested the motors for some time without having any issues?? Will they ride without overheating ?(no temperature sensor)

Can you still use direct drive like a regular skateboard like you can with hub motors. Or is like belt where you cant use it like a normal board?

@MBoardsco

2 жыл бұрын

There’s very little resistance with direct drives so you can still push.

@roysalman6720

2 жыл бұрын

@@MBoardsco Fantastic thank you! Would you say a direct drive system would work for a small board set up? I'm trying to a build a board similar to the boosted mini x just improved in some areas. so somewhere in the 28-32 inch board range.

@MBoardsco

2 жыл бұрын

The direct drives are relatively wide, so might look a bit funny on a smaller deck. But I’ve had these on a 32” deck before and it looked great!

@roysalman6720

2 жыл бұрын

@@MBoardsco thank you!

"Hub motors just aren't that powerful" Enertion: "Am I a joke to you?"

@MBoardsco

4 жыл бұрын

There are definitely special cases. Enertion is in a league if its own 😎 But in general, off the shelf Hub motor options will typically be out performed by belt driven systems.

@esk8jaimes

4 жыл бұрын

...Exway!

@Bashyb

4 жыл бұрын

Look up their reputation and the insane amount of customers who have been screwed over by them, for both customer service, quality control, and wait time. They're insanely powerful, but not worth it for how long they last.

@pmacnz

4 жыл бұрын

Yes they are a joke - they gone

I am sure they are really nice! :) But so are also the new 100mm Meepo hubmotors. I run two of dose on my DIY, VESC board. They are speced 540W each so 1080W total on 10S, but I run 12S and 40A to each motor that makes the board really powerful and fast (35mph) (2000W). And the motors do not get to hot like older hubmotors use to get.

@MBoardsco

4 жыл бұрын

That’s awesome man! Sounds like an solid set up!

@johannesdoderlein6655

4 жыл бұрын

Er du norsk?

@Nisse977

4 жыл бұрын

@@johannesdoderlein6655 I am Swedish :)

@johannesdoderlein6655

4 жыл бұрын

@@Nisse977med et navn som Nisse måtte du jo i det minste være nordisk eller hva. Jeg har hatt et nls pro brett i de siste par månedene, mitt første eskateboard. Men fikk lyst til å øke kraften som du har gjort.

@Nisse977

4 жыл бұрын

@@johannesdoderlein6655 Hehe yes :) I answer in english so the others understand to. I use the new Meepo hubs and a Flipsky Dual FSESC4.20 (VESC) (2x50A) that able me to set the power and regen I like to use. The old Meepo ESCs outputs max 2x15A if I am correct, and the new ones outputs max 2x32A for these new hubmotors. If you like your board, you can just change the Meepo ESC for a VESC and get more power if your battery can deliver enough current :) Good luck!

not sure on direct drive myself the moduality of normal motors with belts and pullys is something to be considered

Who is the Manufacturer of the Direct Drives? I assume they are the ones with 6.5 Nm or 1600 Watt ???

The only downside of Direct Drive is the ground clearance under motor so it may be susceptible to hitting junk. Yes, I do like the idea and am contemplating swapping my hubs. seem's they have one other problem...... getting replacement skins in the first place.

@MBoardsco

4 жыл бұрын

Definitely something to think about for sure. Luckily, adding larger wheels greatly reduces this problem. But still something to think about!

Does this work with hobbywing esc?

@MBoardsco

4 жыл бұрын

Yes it does 👍🏻

@yaseensquires6832

4 жыл бұрын

I have no idea how to program it. Can't find any good info on how to program esc for a new motor

@exxonrcg

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah can it be used as drop in replacement from hobbywing based pre built (wowgo) esc? I heard that you need to run it sensorless. Any idea what does that mean

Is it possible to use them with pneumatic wheels?

@MBoardsco

4 жыл бұрын

Yes. We are working on a wheel adapter for a pneumatic set of wheels!

One thing to note is that if you are using "smaller" wheels, your direct drives will hit and get all scratched up by road debris. Idk if it will damage them, but it surely isn't good. You should run wheels at least 100mm+ in diameter.

@MBoardsco

2 жыл бұрын

Yes definitely!

Do a kickflips!

so what size is that board pictured in your video? i would love a diy setup like that with that board its just the perfect absolutely perfect size!! anyway we can work together and parcial sponsor me so i can create some awesome review video content for your use however you like? please let me know if we can talk more about this opportunity along with what exactly i can offer MBoards as a company... thanks and have a great day, -p3t3r

Can I buy your skate parts in UK

@MBoardsco

2 жыл бұрын

Yes 👍🏻

do u ship to india?

@MBoardsco

4 жыл бұрын

Yes we do 👍🏻

what is the reason that direct drives are so expensive?

@MBoardsco

4 жыл бұрын

They are new and there aren’t a whole lot of manufacturers making them yet. As soon as there is a bit more competition and they are made at a higher volume the prices will come down. Just a matter of time.

Ermm. When's the last time you built or bought a hub motor eboard. The esc has a big impact on performance. Enertion boards. Off the shelf boards like meepo v3 and their awd more than hold their own against the popular belt boards. Esk8 builders recently built a hub board with dated maytech hubs that went 30mph. Noise free, free wheeling, cheap and effiecent is why hubs are so popular.

I’m trying to send a package back and get a refund and I still haven’t gotten a response help

@MBoardsco

4 жыл бұрын

We typically need a about a day to reply. Messages are answered Monday-Friday. So keep an eye out on your email on Monday 👍🏻 We’ll get you taken care of!

Some guy already tried this and it didnt really work/last, because of how close the motors are to the ground. Meaning every little rock and or uneven part of the road will hit full force right into the motor case. So this aint it.

@MBoardsco

4 жыл бұрын

Currently using them with 100mm wheels and it’s awesome. No issues at all. We’re about to release 120mm wheels as well. 👍🏻

but there's no gear ratio

What touches the ground first the wheels...they have to have some sort of importance to the ride.

It is possible riding with a penny?

@MBoardsco

4 жыл бұрын

This particular set would be quite large for a penny board. We’d recommend a long board deck.

Is there ANY reliable DD system out of China?..a company that will service issues, and not steal your money??

The main problem with direct drive is ground clearance. Especially with smaller wheels

@MBoardsco

3 жыл бұрын

Yes that’s definitely the biggest con to a direct drive setup.

Direct Drives needs to be under $500 to compete and do 18 mile ranges in real time.

belt drive are the harley of e skates! evolve me any day! aussie aussie aussie

You also get crap trucks you didn't want. Belt driven you choose the best of everything. Wheels, motors, trucks, bushings etc all your choice. Part replacement easy including motors. Sorry my dude but the noise of belt driven is also awesome!

@MBoardsco

4 жыл бұрын

Definitely a ton of benefits to belt driven set ups! We personally really love how modular belt systems are. But we are definitely going to see more manufacturers adopt these types of motors.

So I can put some big ol wheels on them and take my board in the woods now?

@MBoardsco

4 жыл бұрын

Yes you could 👍🏻

Direct drive is definitely the future but will still never be as powerfull as a direct drive. Every time you double your kv rating of the motor you are 1,4x ing your power density of the motor. Thats why gears are still very practical to producing the highest amount of power possible.

If you run over a stone you sit down. Hard on the tarmac. There's almost no clearance

@MBoardsco

4 жыл бұрын

With larger wheels this issue is eliminated 👍🏻

Can we get these without dual kingpin trucks? The failure rate on trucks like sidewinders is terrible...

@MBoardsco

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, the middle section that makes it dual can be removed by the user.

With a price of 500 and up, it depletes the purpose. Direct drives are supposed to be options for people trying to save. I’d rather buy a complete set and save my self the hassles of building one when there isn’t much difference in the price.

double kingpins are unstable

did he just said you get stability with dkp on high speed! he legit lie to peoples faces! dkp is = the most unstable truck out there, litterally nothing is more unstable than dkp on high speeds

Why would anyone want their motors hanging a 1/4" off the ground. One small rock and you'll go flying.

@MBoardsco

4 жыл бұрын

Larger wheels eliminates this issue completely 👍🏻

I look at belt driven and direct drive and I dont see a difference. Cant you just bolt down the outer portion of a belt driven motor with a custom clamp to the trucks and attach and adapter to use any wheels? I dont even get my belt driven was every created... the outer motor case spins...for what? If you just made the motors like any other electronic motor on earth the center shaft spins...end of story... I think it was a ploy to make more money by taking a step backwards and then go and introduce new more expensive motors...that are just normal motors after taking 2 steps backwards ...

@MBoardsco

4 жыл бұрын

I totally see what you’re saying. It all comes down to production cost and the cost of custom fitting motors onto custom trucks. As the Esk8 community grows more and more money will be invested into creating things for performance rather than cost.

Слишком много времени показывает себя, трудно смотреть, лучше показывать езду на доске

Super overpriced. The revel boards kit is a much better value.

Overpriced and OVER-RATED

@MBoardsco

3 жыл бұрын

I would agree that they are a bit expensive. The price will come down as more and more companies begin to produce them. But I wouldn’t say overrated, they are very very nice and incredibly smooth.