Clearly, you're not an alcoholic.

@txtoolcrib

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Lol

@grovesy333

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What makes you think that ? Soft drinks have caps too

@aubreyleonae4108

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From a former...good one.

@The.Dude.Abides.

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@@aubreyleonae4108 in all seriousness congratulations! Wish you all the best moving forward!

@aubreyleonae4108

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@@The.Dude.Abides. and...at least I'm house broken. 😁

I essentially agree, however would extend it to corkscrew as well

The Victorinox is handy because it's tough enough to do light prying as well being a screwdriver and opener. It also acts to hold a bit driver, as some people have figured out.

Ben, historically seen the bottle cap lifter with screwdriver is the other way round: in the "Soldatenmesser 1894" it was a screwdriver (for use on the carabiner) and only some 20 years later it integrated the cap lifter.

A couple of years ago, I drank more beer, especially from microbreweries where the bottles didn't have a twist cap, so I found a bottle opener to be essential. It's what drove me to replace my Victorinox Classic with a Leatherman Style CS. I don't drink as much now, but still find a bottle opener to be very useful.

I use the bottle opener a lot on my tools work’s fantastic

To be honest my least used function has to be the knife, I mostly use a dedicated utility knife for the heavy work and dedicated kitchen knife for food prep, so a multi tool knife doesn't have much of a place in my daily tasks. I would like to see more blade less multi tools in the market other than the blade less rebar. Maybe a plier based multi tool with a utility blade instead of a knife would be perfect for me

@F1fan007

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Milwaukee Fastback 6 in 1 and a Leatherman Style PS are a perfect combination of a small set of pliers and a utility knife for even a small pocket

@viktormogilin307

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The original OHT Leatherman has no knife blades but doubles up on tools which I didn't like, so the gen 2 now does not double up on the tools but has knife blades, might have to customise 😶😎😊

Agree with you, Ben; I'd rather have another more useful tool, than a bottle opener.

I removed the bottle opener from my charge plus and installed a 1/4 inch bit driver from shapeways.

@grovesy333

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So 2 bit drivers ? Why ?

What little I have used it the gerber prybrid has a pretty decent bottle opener.

YUP. I don't get why they feel like they need to put that on every single multi-tool.

I wish my crunch came w/ can opener instead of just a cap lifter. I work in catering & enjoy backpacking. Would definitely get much more use of it.

thank you Ben, happy new year!

The Milwaukee Fastback 6 in 1 has a great frame integrated bottle cap opener (with a wide cap grip) and is a phenomenal tool. Locking bit holder with a Phillips and flat head, very stable box cutting design, hidden blade holder for extra blade and an extremely comfortable ergonomic design. This thing always feels good in your hand and feels invisible in the pocket. I carry it with a Victorinox Compact and Leatherman Style PS all in one blue jeans pocket.

I use can opener to open soft drinks and beer very often. In fact this is one of my most used features. My favorite feature though is the scissors! It's very individual.

I use them quite often, more than expected initially

As someone who enjoys a refreshing Guiness I appreciate always having a bottle opener handy.

The surge bottle cap lifter is even ill-positioned. The opposite handle comes in the way when you try to open a bottle cap and you have to keep the handle open after deploying the bottle cap lifter. If you forget that and habitually closed up the handle, you need to make still more fuss to re-open the handle.

In this day and age, I wonder why the cap lifter and can opener are even put on a multitool. They take up valuable real estate that could house a much more useful implement. On the theme of the Knifeless Rebar, where they opted for scissors and a saw, Leatherman could introduce models sans can opener/cap lifter and substitute other tools. Thanks for sharing.

Yep, I agree, the cap lifter and the can opener. I do use the cap lifter/flat tip screwdriver on my SAKs from time to time as a light weight pry bar to open paint cans. Thanks for posting!

I love your leatherman videos. I've carried my wave for 2 years, I never leave home without it, if I do I usually turn around and go get it haha

Have a Boker tech tool 4 which is great for travelling, including scissors, seat belt cutter and glass breaker, the blade is even wide enough to spread butter with. That bottle opener has had a fair bit of use but mostly it's just for lifting off lids and bail handles on billy pots on a fire. If you were careful you could probably do that with a can opener though. To be fair I got a whole lot more use out of the bottle opener and cork screw when I was younger than now and I used to loose a lot more SAKs then than I do now!

The Leatherman "brewser" is my favorite tool for this. Cap lifter functions very well. The tool is an amazing package opener and works well as a small flat bar when needed for light prying. Every time I take it off my keyring I come back to it very quickly. You should give it a shot.

@drengskap

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I keep a Brewzer on my keyring, and it definitely earns its living - very hard steel, excellent prying capability for its size. But I think they've been discontinued.

I use the bottle cap lifter on my Victorinox very frequently as the knife is with me always.

I sure appreciate the bottle cap lifter on my Gerber Dime, even though I don't use it very often. Just because it doesn't get much use, it doesn't mean it's useless. Good to have when you need one. The corkscrew and the parcel hook are tools that I never use on my Victorinox multiools. I used to think the corkscrew was absolutely useless until I started using it as a mini screwdriver holder.

@Messiahbolicalx

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Corkscrew is good for pulling staples outta stuff. I'm a furniture refiinisher and it's so annoying getting a price of wood covered in staples.

The implement can snap clean off with a lot of use anyway. It happened to me on my Surge.

Swiss Army knives didn't get a cap lifter until 1942.

I have used my Surge but when I know I am going to partake in adult beverages at the camp ground the Skeletool is my preferred implement. I dont really drink much unless its free.

Probably my most used implement. Along with the cork screw, heh.

When I have 3rd beer I just pop the cap with the edge of the table or bench 😂

Shockingly the juice has a very good cap lifter

I don't mind the bottle cap lifter. It's the can opener the implement that isn't needed. Just put it in your outdoors/camping models and put something else that isn't a flat screwdriver on everything else. At least on victorinox it serves as a flat philips driver.

I don't use it much, but when I've needed it the Victorinox lifter has popped off caps first time every time

I edc a Surge and wish they would replace the bottle opener/can opener/wire stripper with the eyeglasses screwdriver from the first gen Surge/Wave. I need my glasses to see and knowing I can repair them is a much greater reassurance in an emergency than knowing I can open a can of beans (I'm pretty sure you could just stab the knife blade in, pry it open with the pliers and then touch up the blade with the detachable file if you really had no other can opener at all).

Agree. The way that multitools seem by law to require a bottle opener is weird, when it is easy to open a bottle using a screwdriver (by lifting and levering edge of the cap). Yet removing a wine bottle cork without a corkscrew is genuinely difficult. It is becoming less of an issue with the increasing prevalence of screw top bottles, but there are still plenty of corks around. I'd assumed it was a cultural thing. Having a tool dedicated to drinking beer rather than wine is more of a statement of Americana than a practical benefit. Discuss.

@grovesy333

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Maybe people want to do it the easy way hence the bottle opener ? 😂

@apaul9776

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@@grovesy333 I am sure you are right, but it does mean that opening a (nonscrew) bottle is something that is done often compared with removing a cork from a wine bottle which is apparently never done...

@grovesy333

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@@apaul9776 You mustn’t drink then 😅

@grovesy333

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Victorinox has both 🤷‍♂️

I have carried a Victorinox Climber almost every day since I'm 9 (40 now) and my least used function must be the can opener. Even the parcel hook which did not exist back then has seen more use now.

@F3udF1st

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It's too bad almost no cans need an external opener nowadays.

@mooseman6226

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Agree! Most canned food where I live either have pull tab or moved to paper. I have grinded my can opener to a package opener.

Was just thinking about this earlier. One of my pet peeves is bottle openers being designed into everyrhing you buy anymore. Just get stuck paying extra for something I never use.

I get more use out of cap-lifters on most multi-tools than I do out of the scissors. 95% of the time, the scissors on multi-tools are just too small and too finicky to cut anything in any way appreciably better than just cutting the thing with the knife blade. There are rare cases where the scissors are actually robust enough to use but it is so rare that I will more often get use from a cap-lifter than the scissors.

@patrickbledsoe2176

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I bought the wave and wish I'd got the surge just for the scissors

Well it depends what you're doing, doesn't it? I can see that the bottle opener on your SAK might not get much use on a construction site (though the large screwdriver is good for opening paint cans and pulling staples). However, when I go camping, my bottle opener and can opener both see a great deal of use! The corkscrew used to as well, but not so much any more, since screw caps have become much more common on wine bottles. And of course, the best way to win friends and influence people in any outdoor situation - at the beach, round the campfire, at a BBQ etc - is to carry a tool which enables access to containers of alcohol!

I only ever use it as a pry tool or non sharp scraper

I use the leatherman surge bottle opener to clean my finger nails.

I carry the leatherman wave, a Milwaukee fast back, and a Bic lighter and I can pop a bottle top off a bottle with the lighter faster and better than most multi tool bottle lifters... I use to drank alot of Corona's.....alot of em

Individual preference. I personally don’t have use for a cap lifter

I used the big flathead on my wave/charge/surge for bottle caps, that worked better but the Victorinox is better, slap a 1/4 adapter on it and it's a bit driver. But I am German and can open a beer with almost anything:p

With a multitool as capable as the Surge I don’t think opening a bottle would pose much of a problem whether it contained a cap lifter or not. I also don’t recall any backpackers who carried canned goods on their hikes either so the can opener seems like it is occupying another space that could be better utilized. I think we have to determine why we are carrying these tools before we decide what to carry. Convenience, emergency, or necessity could all be very different looking setups.

Ironically the most used bottle opener on a 'multi tool' I have used is one of those pen multi tools with the light at one end, and the cap lifter right in the middle of it.

Haha theres a bunch of these tools that for some reason is on every single multitool but I never use. Bottle cap lifter? Pry bar. Can opener? Pointy pry bar. Wire stripper? Thin pry bar! Large flat screwdriver? Chonky pry bar!

Happy New Happy Year the bottle cap lifter/opener is about the most useless along with the corkscrew opener and a somewhat less awl. The the three tools need to be replaced. On the Armbar Slim it’s a much better multi tool. I also forgot yes the driver does not lock but if you use your thumb to push down on screwdriver/bit driver it will not fold back you.

I always end up using a part of my multitool that not even meant for opening a bottle cap . I do that with a lot of my tools 😂

The combo tool on the compact works better the man the OG SAK tool IMO. Or grips a little better.

There are many ways to open a bottle without a designated bottle opener, so to have a bottle opener on a multi tool integrated with another tool makes much more sense than taking up space by making an extra tool just as a bottle opener

A cap lifter is an easy way to increase tool count on a multitool or SAK. Even less useful to me is a corkscrew. That's the last thing I need if I'm broken down at the side of the road.

i use it all the time :)

I carry a Swiss Army Knife. I prefer it over a Multi Tool.

I have never needed a bottleopener, i mean a ligther or anything works

Never used a can opener, never will.

Can opener, cap lifter, corkscrew - never used. They are all from a world gone by. A pry tool with nail nick would be more useful.

It is one of the most annoying "tool" on there. IMO they exist mostly to buff up the tool count. Pretty much every other thing on there is a (better) cap lifter, up to and including scales. I can use almost everything around as a bottle cap lifter, as long as it is moderately strong and longer than say 3 to 5 cm. Twigs work! Well, everything except the cap lifters on a tool or knife, cuz (except frame integrated) they are invariably so narrow I have to go at it several times.

@Mikkel-Hansen

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Same, usually the edge of the tool work fine for bottle caps. I use the edge of my ST300, or Charge, all the time to open bottles.

@pretentiousname01

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big agree Especially when they make it also do other things, like that wire stripper notch.

@user-zh4vo1kw1z

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@@pretentiousname01 oh, I like multifunctionality, especially in multitools. It allowed me to grind the hook of the lifter in my old Spirit and actually get a good ergonomic curve on the screwdriver, for when I needed to choke up on it.

@user-zh4vo1kw1z

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@@Mikkel-Hansen for my swisstool the rounded edges were a perfect fit when closed! Only thing that worked better (aside from dedicated keyrings), is a plastic lighter. I suggest using a very disposable one ;)

For me it is the knife blade, I carry a mini box cutter and a pocket knife , Both are superior to the crap blade in a multi tool , I'd rather if they had to have a sharp , make it a scalpel . Can still fly and not sharpening a subpar blade

Regarding the Gerber Armbar: good ideas, lousy quality. Of course they had to come up with some different ideas to compete with the market leader Victorinox (who put out 60'000 SAKS every DAY and has built well over half a billion historically). I also like the prybar/cap lifter and the bit holder, but everything else is just of poor build quality. Bad Chinese stuff.

Yeah, you don't drink craft beer or gourmet soda

My favourite bottle-cap lifter, which I use a lot, is on the Leatherman Crunch. You find it on the smallest flat edge screwdriver.

They have bottle cap lifters on every object currently manufactured anywhere in the world. Like beards on men it's ubiquitous. I loath bottle cap opensrs!

That means you drink cheap beer.

Which man needs a bottle opener to open a bottle I ask myself? Aren't there a 100 ways to open a bottle without even touching a bottle opener?

@grovesy333

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Maybe people don’t want to be stupid and be normal using the right tool for the job ?

@donz8501

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@@grovesy333 I was talking about man

@grovesy333

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@@donz8501 Maybe “men” as you call it which comes across as you being a pig and not helpful might have disabilities with their hands or some people might have conditions y’know ? Seems like a very inconsiderate comment you’ve made

@donz8501

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@@grovesy333 woke

LOL, I use the shit out of my "bottle cap lifter" & it's called a bottle opener, obviously you're not an alco like me

I disagree, really. I find the bottle cap opener is the only tool that is very simple and works ok with every multi-tool. I haven't failed to open a bottle cap with any multi-tool, be it Vic, or Leatherman, or Gerber.

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The bottlecap lifter on the surge is a pain in the ass when u use it for the 15th time with beer. Open the pliersl, extract the tool, use it, close it.... I instead use the tool fully closed and pry with the ridged side where the pliers sit, Works just fine even if you are drunk asf.