Why are demilitarized zones so militarized.

@fristnamelastname5549

4 жыл бұрын

Germany: Why do the French get to militrize the Rhineland? Belgium, and France: *Shut up slave!*

@Jack209

3 жыл бұрын

Literally every "demilitarized" zone in history was one of the most heavily militarized places in the world.

@ApersonIguess-rb6fu

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jack209 the irony

@getmeoutofsanfrancisco9917

3 жыл бұрын

They aren't. The *borders* around said DMZ are what are heavily militarized. A DMZ is just a zone typically around national borders where a mutual agreement is made in order to forbid military instillations within said zone. When you *approach* (but not enter) a DMZ on a hostile border, there will typically be many military instillations, but within said DMZ itself, there will (or should be) none. Unless it is violated which does happen. /Definitions

@scintillam_dei

3 жыл бұрын

Why is it you can't say crap without rap?

Debt: *exists* Germany: so anyway I started printing

@NoahWeaverRacing

4 жыл бұрын

MarchBloxBoy theone this meme was getting old but this revived it a little for me 😂

@martinbernardino1

4 жыл бұрын

Venezuela: Are you challenging me

@garrettallen7427

4 жыл бұрын

Noah Weaver Argentina: *YOU DARE OPPOSE ME MORTAL?!*

@Joesolo13

4 жыл бұрын

If you have uncontrollable debt it's actually a pretty big brained move You destroy your own currency and go 'well that sucks guys!', adopt another country's currency for a few years and then start yours back up pegged to it until you're pretty sure things will be stable.

@legooperator8443

3 жыл бұрын

@bloxboy 1 Yeah lol

"France felt that any breach of the Treaty of Versailles should be met with firm action" Ohhh, the irony...

@marlonmoncrieffe0728

4 жыл бұрын

Actually, if the allies had been more rational about war reparations, the Ruhr Valley occupation AND the second World War could have been avoided.

@marlonmoncrieffe0728

4 жыл бұрын

@@atlasbailly5439 ...Or just being more rational about forcing one country to pay back everything. But alas, Britain and France wanted their pound of flesh... Then again, maybe you were right and should have dismantled Germany so they would no longer be on the hook for all those unfair payments.

@helmuthvonmoltke5518

4 жыл бұрын

@@atlasbailly5439 Well, we can argue in the same way about the congress of Vienna. If the coallition had ripped France apart than there would be no Napoleon III, no Franco - prussian war and no French revisionism that led - among others - to the outbreak of WW1. So no, if the allies had treated Germany more gentle than the western Integration of the country would had played out more accordingly. The peace treaty - and especially Frances behaviour - was more or less responsible for the rise of Hitler and his Nazi thugs. Incidently; Europe after the war needed a strong and peacefull Germany. Its a shame that France insisted on a weak and helpless Germany.

@atlasbailly5439

4 жыл бұрын

@Ivan Ricaña how in gods name is the french navy supposed to help in a war against germany. they share a massive common border and the germans were not very reliant on foreign supplies, as illustrated in the first and second world wars. in 1940 the definitive command of the sea held by the brits and french could not prevent the fall of france in the slightest. the tanks of the french were far inferior in number and organization to those of the germans. in addition, the germans had absolute command of the sky, which is incredibly important and made up a large portion of german military strength and strategy. you have made two points which completely ignore the simple fact that the germans completely dwarfed the french in terms of industrial output, population, and land based military power.

@NoahWeaverRacing

4 жыл бұрын

Ivan Ricaña Naval Power is only so effective. The fact that France was drastically outnumbered in Air power, manpower, and equipment such as tanks meant they could not keep up. Not having Britain to cover a portion of the Belgian border would have made a bad situation worse.

“Every man a millionaire”- German Huey Long

@Marinealver

4 жыл бұрын

A million pennies is still $10,000. A million Dongs on the other hand.

@bluefiregaming4037

4 жыл бұрын

Huey Long Dong***

@merrittanimation7721

4 жыл бұрын

And no one wears a Pickelhaube

@UnfairEnforcer

4 жыл бұрын

A worthless millionaire is a millionaire nonetheless

@jonasb104

4 жыл бұрын

@@HighFlyingOwlOfMinerva um, Gustav Stresemann would like to talk to you from his grave. ;)

I remember an interview with an old German lady who had been a young girl at the time of the inflation. She and her mother had gone shopping, struggling under the weight of their basket-load of money. They saw a crowd gathering at the baker's, so put down the load and rushed to see what was on sale. When they got back, the money was there, but somebody had stolen the basket.

@kaputtesrollo2756

2 жыл бұрын

Actually I still have a 5 Billion Reichsmark (only one banknote)

@zhouwu

2 жыл бұрын

@@kaputtesrollo2756 How much is it worth?

@kaputtesrollo2756

2 жыл бұрын

@@zhouwu Today it's nothing

@charu2059

2 жыл бұрын

@@kaputtesrollo2756 You could use it as toilet paper or make an airplane.

@kaputtesrollo2756

2 жыл бұрын

@@charu2059 I could (due to its value) but I think its a historical item I should keep ^^

love the writing scrawled over the picture of the former Kaiser: 'Unter neuer leitung' - 'Under new management' 😂

@breaderikthegreat3224

3 жыл бұрын

You have freed us

@beefyblom

2 жыл бұрын

@@breaderikthegreat3224 Eher wie - unter neuer leitung

“A great plan” *inflation lvl.100*

@Snowfox456

4 жыл бұрын

Since the reparations were set in Reichsmark, however, the plan kinda worked...

@icrushchildrensdreams4556

4 жыл бұрын

Dominic Jackman it sorta worked but they also got free bricks to build their houses with in germany.

@personaronthegreat1399

4 жыл бұрын

I8pT do you mean Inflation OVER 9000

@unowno123

4 жыл бұрын

lmao coming from the man who invented the great leap forward

@trdrudedude6099

4 жыл бұрын

No its Inflation Inflation Inflation LV 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

I was super against you changing from 10 minute videos to this. But now I look forward to them

@Sim4oo

4 жыл бұрын

I agreee with you,but do be fair,if videos were still 10 minutes long,uploads were to be for sure not so frequent.

@Wm7forthewin

4 жыл бұрын

same

@gr33kwarrior

4 жыл бұрын

When you say the German government did print money just to pay their bills you're at least oversimplifying. It's obvious from the beginning that it won't solve your problems even with the least economical knowledge. Or you're claiming that the people in charge were just idiots which is unlikely. So to me there's no question wether inflation was planned. You could still argue about the extent of inflation planned ofc since once started it was like an avalanche effect building up more and more.

@nathanielmorgan732

4 жыл бұрын

It works well for making single event videos.

@receivedbeans8555

3 жыл бұрын

Erik Dorbandt never underestimate the stupidity of politicians

This explains so much about how Nazi Germany was able to get away with so many early treaty violations. It's hard to believe this isn't in more discussions of the leadup to WWII. Edit: I refer to the French occupation, not the inflation. I knew about that. It's just that the actions of the French here make it understandable that some folks would let things slide if it would be good for Germany. Then they decided things were getting out of hand, but you know.

@looinrims

3 жыл бұрын

It’s because no one understands seemingly how important economies are

@anonymouscausewhynot

2 жыл бұрын

@@looinrims well, unless your country is in economic crisis.

@looinrims

2 жыл бұрын

@@anonymouscausewhynot nah people still don’t get it, as they cry for social welfare programs that are the reason the coffers are dry (or a big reason in many cases), Argentina isn’t having fun for many reasons but the out of control spending doesn’t help

@divicarpe1844

2 жыл бұрын

@@looinrims I would say it's because it would expose the responsibility and passiveness of UK and US.

@looinrims

2 жыл бұрын

@@divicarpe1844 you…are ridiculous That isn’t the case whatsoever both historically and presently

“State of Emergency” *how funny the FIRE ALARM JUST WENT OFF*

@tjb_6203

4 жыл бұрын

*HAHAHAHHAHAH LMAOOO*

@blazingfish8486

2 жыл бұрын

*I CANT BELIEVE IT*

"And while it can be said no-one won the Ruhr valley crisis..." A certain future Chaneclor: "Oh, I don't know about that..."

@schroederscurrentevents3844

2 жыл бұрын

@Shadow Reptile it’s very obviously Hitler and also France does not and has never had chancellors

@nishav101822

2 жыл бұрын

I would say ending up in a ditch, covered in petrol, on fire, is not "winning"

@nishav101822

2 жыл бұрын

@Shadow Reptile I was replying to the original post by hfar, apparently KZread got mixed up

@damedley75

2 жыл бұрын

I need a sad react

Small note on the whole "printing money" thing: Economists at the time believed that a quick injection of liquid capital into the economy could stimulate small buisnesses, a positive effect which was projected to counter the (well predicted) inflation such move would cause. They ended up doing it because several experts (german and foreign) agreed that it could work. Then the government got kinda carried away and just kept printing even when it was clear that it wasn't working

@SamWinchester000

2 жыл бұрын

Injection of capital to stimulate the economy when it does not work anymore. That sounds a bit like Keynsian.

@damedley75

2 жыл бұрын

Like a distant mirror

@Aceshot-uu7yx

Жыл бұрын

That is still used to this day but only once and as a last resort.

@damedley75

Жыл бұрын

@@Aceshot-uu7yx incorrect

@damedley75

Жыл бұрын

@@Aceshot-uu7yx Sorry I shouldn't have jumped to a conclusion... What is the "that" that is still used to this day?

*sees Industrious Ruhr Valley in demilitarized Germany* France: “It’s free real estate.”

@Cjnw

3 жыл бұрын

Normie

France: Let's severely punish Germany. What could go wrong? Germany: Let's print MORE money. What could go wrong?

@martinfiedler4317

3 жыл бұрын

@@historyfan So printing money causes World War? A very daring Hypothesis.

@zejdland

3 жыл бұрын

Germany say should've been dismantled like the ottoman empire or the Austrian empire

@alexschmidt443

3 жыл бұрын

@@martinfiedler4317 Makes sense to me. -Printing Money -Money has less value -The money on your bank, for which you saved your entire life, is nothing but worthless up to 1921 -Same probably goes to the company you worked for -Your company closes because it can't produce or buy due to it being broke -You're unemployed -You have luck and find a nine-to-five job -You realize saving money is Bullshit because the Money you earned on Friday is worthless on Monday -You buy everything you need literally right after work, literally carying your cash in a wheelbarrow -You're fired because the company you worked for closes due to it being broke -You realize life sucks -You know it's the frenchies fault -You hate the frenchies now because they destroyed your life -You realize that democracy in Germany succs D -Nazis say that Democracy succs D -''Yeah, that makes sense'' -You like the Nazis -Nazis take power -Nationalism is cool again -You want to be cool, so you become a Nationalist -You don't like Poland controlling Germany Territory -You rekk Poland - *Looking westward* -''You thought i forget about you?'' -You rekk France -''Oh boi, nobody can stop me now, not even...'' -You rekk Russia -Russia rekks you back - ''Ah shit. It's ok, we can do this'' - USA walks in - ''Did somebody say war?'' - USA rekks you - British rekk you - French farmers with guns rekk you - ''Oh come on no! Fuck you guys, seriously!'' Succ my dicc history!

@fluff5

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexschmidt443 Venezuela is going to start the ww3

@rodrigogomes5112

3 жыл бұрын

@@zejdland you miss the point that while austria and the ottomans were already very divided internally, german peoples wanted to be unified

Very interesting topic indeed. Here in Germany we learn about the Ruhr-occupation in school, but I didn't knew it was so bad for British-French relations. We focused more on the hyper-inflation oopsie by our government...😅

@alexg4711

4 жыл бұрын

well if you consider the threat of france occupying you printing money doesnt seem like that bad of an idea

@jonasb104

4 жыл бұрын

@@alexg4711 Military staff be like: *we drown the french in paper!* And then paper would have to be forbiden by the Genfer-convention...😨

*German Nationalism Intensifies

@gyaps_da_best5835

4 жыл бұрын

Frenchies in the trenchies

@gyaps_da_best5835

4 жыл бұрын

@FBI - Federal Bureau of Investigation Not an original sadly but it is still funny just wanted to tell the joke to people who haven't seen them :)

@toreq1127

4 жыл бұрын

UH OHHHH

@zejdland

3 жыл бұрын

Whole europe: simply dismantles germany.

@zejdland

3 жыл бұрын

@mitsuki XD

It should be mentioned that this inflation crisis heavily effected the view of the Weimar Republic for a lot of Germans back then. It left a deep shock in the populance and there are still stories of the suffering German people endured in many German families.

@mikehunt3436

Жыл бұрын

It also devoured much of the population's life savings

I mean, that 20% boost to production and +1 Production for each Mine and Quarry in this city is good reason for anyone to capture the Ruhr.

@Delosian

2 жыл бұрын

Only if you replace all the workers with your own, otherwise you have to pay an assimilation penalty to production for the first ten turns.

@jcxz983

2 жыл бұрын

@@Delosian So that's where France went wrong....

@omeven5785

Жыл бұрын

game ?

@marjanp

4 ай бұрын

​@@omeven5785Civilization 6

Germans: Literally any problem. Weimar Governament: *Prints Money*

@TheOMGJames

4 жыл бұрын

Tbf under Gustav Stresemann the Weimar Republic did see a short economic boom by not printing more money amongst other things

@Jthomas-gg9pi

4 жыл бұрын

BMT yeah it might’ve worked but America wanted the money back after the Wall Street crash so the money that was fixing the economy was gone

@mrbrainbob5320

4 жыл бұрын

@@Jthomas-gg9pi well America was mainly the only nation who gave Germany any real help.

@fristnamelastname5549

4 жыл бұрын

@@mrbrainbob5320 We Americans are the best.

@tano1004

3 жыл бұрын

*it’s free real estate*

This probably affected the French foreign policy and why they hesitated on helping the Polish and condemning German aggression in the late 30s

@samarkand1585

2 жыл бұрын

Well in-between a certain Great Depression happened too

@danieleyre8913

Жыл бұрын

And intervening when Hitler marched into the Ruhr in 1936.

This channel is just so great for history fans like me. It touches on these footnotes and small things in the bigger picture. I love it. I even watch the videos about the historical eras i dont care about

@SamWinchester000

2 жыл бұрын

Oh, you're absolutely right, e. g. I don't give a shit about the Middle Ages or Chinese history, but videos here are always interesting and intrigue me to put an eye on other topics and eras.

ZImbabwe: great plan, what could go wrong

2:44 If you pause here you can see a visual representation of the entire history of French and British relations lol

Germany: *exists* France: They’re a threat to our peace! I suggest we I n v a d e

@alioshax7797

4 жыл бұрын

One this one, I would say we were right ;) I'm not 100% sure, but I think that Germany was kind of a threat for peace in 1933 ^^

@g3k0n88

4 жыл бұрын

@@alioshax7797 germany was always a threat to the peace

@g3k0n88

4 жыл бұрын

@@alioshax7797 and i mean was cuz now they are fine

@maxx1014

4 жыл бұрын

@TheSatanicTicTac so was France from 1871 onwards being salty about the loss of Alsace Lorraine. And basically French kingdom was a threat to peace since Hugo Carpet and later the empire with Napoleon lol

@rjabrogar3492

4 жыл бұрын

Germany: *uno reverse card*

Why didn’t you include the Bottleneck Free State? It could’ve been very interesting

@alanz4819

4 жыл бұрын

I8pT Ankther channel already made a video on it

@icrushchildrensdreams4556

4 жыл бұрын

alanz ik but i wanted to hear how History Matters would explain it in his perspective

@50shekels

4 жыл бұрын

@@seamonster936 Yeah. The same reason you guys implemented mandatory school shootings every second Tuesday. It's too boring without the constant threat of being gunned down

@syrialak101

4 жыл бұрын

@@50shekels Butthurt much?

@50shekels

4 жыл бұрын

Mallyoo oh don’t worry, I don’t really care what you think. Honestly the world is just sick of Murica propaganda, just because they weigh the most doesn’t mean they have a lot to say

I think an important omission here (probably understandable due to extreme time constraint) is the main reason the French wanted reparations was to *pay the UK and US for their war debts*. At Versailles the French were actually in favour of forgiving all monetary transfers - debts & reparations - excluding a more modest amount for repairs to infrastructure etc. (perhaps understandable as they maybe were the largest debtor nation). The UK & US - France's creditors - disagreed. Hence the French pushed for reparations to cover the war debt. This is discussed in detail in the scholarship of Margaret MacMillan (Paris 1919). The traditional view of France as the motor for large reparations payments is... somewhat problematic. That was perhaps more the anglo-saxons. France's overriding priority was security.

@shatter382

3 жыл бұрын

I think this in and of itself is a little misleading. The British rarely provided direct credit to the French, and were not a net creditor at the end of the war after spending over 50% more than the French on the war. At points the French, and Russian empires had far higher borrowing costs than the British, so it was agreed that France and Russia could borrow money from the British, at British borrowing rates. What this meant was if the French needed a million dollrars, the British would borrow it from the markets (at this time mostly Americans), then load it to the french at the same interest rate, with the idea that France would pay off the loan at a lower interest rate than she would otherwise be offered. The best way to look at this is the British guaranteed a significant amount of French debt, with a few extra steps. What this meant in practice is at points the Germans would pay the French, who would pay the British, who would then pay the final American creditor. Every loan the British gave the French had a matching loan the British needed to pay off at the same rate. In the end the British would never Profit from the French loans, the only thing they got out of it was a good credit rating.

@Okxyd

3 жыл бұрын

What is not added either are the "emprunts russe", aka loans given to russian that the communists simply refused to pay back once after seizing power in 1917 (that would be 100 billions euros today). Combined with the fact that the most industrialized part of France was completely ravaged by the war and the heavy demographic price paid by France (half of a generation of young men). The narrative is that french wanted the money to punish the germans but the reality is that France had 200% of its GDP as debt after the war.

@looinrims

2 жыл бұрын

“Hey thanks for all that cash fighting this war we couldn’t win without it, can we just not pay 90% of it?” Fuck you

@danieleyre8913

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely wrong. The France wanted reparations first and foremost to rebuild the regions of France that had been destroyed or pillaged during the war & German occupation. That’s why they were called reparations (go and translate the word). Paying back the USA and the UK (who had also borrowed to the hilt from the USA) was a more long-term thing that would be resulting from the repairs.

@Tathagatchat

7 ай бұрын

Didn't he say that in the video? (the first line, not the whole explanation)

One problem with this video: The French actually did get their payments. Belgian and French soldiers forced German workers to produce at gunpoint if necessary and if that did not work they were not above seizing machinery and infrastructure and shipping it back to France. So while they occupied it they did get everything they wanted. The only trouble was the international condemnation they received made it all ultimately not worth their while.

@carlbrenner7078

Жыл бұрын

So basically the French and the Belgians did what they had been doing to half of the world: they stole everything they could.

@danieleyre8913

Жыл бұрын

This is absolute fiction. The French never got even half of what they needed from the Germans.

@nicholasm7822

9 ай бұрын

As was their right. They should've taken the whole country and saved the whole continent a lot of trouble.

@MyDemon32

7 ай бұрын

​@@nicholasm7822then you'd get a second Napoleon in Europe and the cycle will continue.

@julien3331

5 ай бұрын

​@@MyDemon32 I prefer this than WWII

2:17 El Presidente...he would be great for Tropico

@corymoon2439

4 жыл бұрын

Driving in Orlando I saw a grocery store today called Presidente. Instantly busted out laughing thinking of the El Presidente brand in Tropico.

I'm really liking all the WW1-related Germany content. Please continue doing more of these, as these detailed edge cases should be shared more, along with the rest of the first world war's history. thanks a bunch!

@cv990a4

Жыл бұрын

Story time: sometime in the 1980s or 1990s I went with my mother to visit the widow of a much older colleague of my father. Her (American) military father had been stationed, along with his family, in a French occupation zone in Germany, as some kind of liaison. Being young and vivacious and in her late teens, she, of course, was much in demand as a dance partner at the military balls. Among the French officers with whom she danced was a tall gentleman of the name De Gaulle. I just looked at her - holy smokes, you danced with Charles De Gaulle?! Yep. Before he was all that, too. And yes, I checked - De Gaulle was indeed stationed in Germany, in Trier.

Germany: *has massive amounts of inflation* Venezuela: hold my beer

@thesmm2311

4 жыл бұрын

Hungary:Amateurs!

@jharbell4481

4 жыл бұрын

Zimbabwe: *Allow me to introduce myself.*

@antoniodavi5392

3 жыл бұрын

Brazil: Excuse me

@reds.victim1023

3 жыл бұрын

Italy: Am I joke to you?

@sirsayde4190

3 жыл бұрын

Venezuela's inflation does not even reach the heels of the German.

Last time I was this early there were living hussars Well, there was one, at least. He was a bit old though

@miguelmontenegro3520

4 жыл бұрын

RIP von Mackensen

@miguelmontenegro3520

4 жыл бұрын

RIP von Mackensen.

@seneca983

4 жыл бұрын

@@miguelmontenegro3520: His first name was August, not RIP. ;)

@sebathadah1559

4 жыл бұрын

His name: *A U G U S T V O N M A C K E N S E N*

"mommm, i want millionaire" "we already have millionaire at home sweetie" millionaire at home:

@romare8763

3 жыл бұрын

@@Cjnw this response seems normal so now the tables will now turn towards your area and you will now be titled "normie"

France after WWII: What did I tell you. Allies: Well you certainly didn’t help the situ- France after WWII: WHAT DID I TELL YOU!

@pride2184

4 жыл бұрын

It's the french fault for starting ww2. They pissed off a already bitter Germany who didn't lose the fight on the battlefield just lost at home.

@nickmtp8824

4 жыл бұрын

@@pride2184 That's the propaganda made by generals. In reality, German lost their last massive attacks and then French succedely counterattack. They severely lost the fight.

@Highway-Hobo

4 жыл бұрын

France in 1939: Where my country gone?

@martinmarvinofsparta3656

4 жыл бұрын

France: Mistakes were made

@grandinquisitor8335

4 жыл бұрын

@@pride2184 kind of true France wanted revenge after the France Prussian war but all the treaty of Versailles did was put Germany in the same position France was extremely bitter

I wish that these were longer keep up the great work

France: *Where’s our MONEH* Weimar Republic: *I got a plan, this is a Good one*

@urmumgae4245

4 жыл бұрын

But first have some god damn faith

Vindictiveness & France, name a more iconic duo.

@ChallisVenstra

4 жыл бұрын

aqui1ifer Taco Bell and Charmin?

@Grafvollundr

4 жыл бұрын

France and attempts to occupy the coal rich Saarland

@skiteufr

4 жыл бұрын

Germany and losing world wars Or Britain and oppressing tribes around the world...

@ZenBallMaster42

4 жыл бұрын

Please remind us which country started WW2 out of spite again ?

@nickmtp8824

4 жыл бұрын

Germany invaded twice neutral Belgium. Even France never dare to do so.

I love your videos, which are funny and informative and overall great ! I think this short format is nice, but it would also be cool if we could still get 10min videos from time to time. Keep up the good work !

I laugh every time I see one of your square fellas bounding through the field of daisies. 🤣🤣🤣

Nice video. Love this channel.

I continue use to enjoy your videos immensely.

Nice use of the Fes hat on that Maghreb French soldier :D

02:16 *oh that surely wont backfire and be one of the reasons for a second world war*

@houjisaifeddine5524

4 жыл бұрын

france is really getting away with no repercussion for basically setting the stage for another ww

@nicolas.p331

4 жыл бұрын

@@dillonblair6491 I mean the french did pay their war reparations in 1870-80 , Germany never did, for WW1 or WW2.

@greibert1447

4 жыл бұрын

@@nicolas.p331 Yeah, because those reparations in 1870-1880 weren't through the roof and motivated by resentment towards the French. Unlike in treaty of Versailles, French were salty that they had lost in the Franco-Prussian war and lost many soldiers in WW1. The thing is, Germany wasn't even able to pay it in the first place, so it's rather senseless to demand the money they didn't have. Now, Germany IS paying reparation for both the world wars...

@breissnbierisnix9952

4 жыл бұрын

Nicolas .P We still pay war reparations...

@thezeitos469

4 жыл бұрын

@@nicolas.p331 thats because we are still paying them to this day, which should show you how insane the amount of money is.

I love your channel keep up the great stuff!!!!

Loving the new upload rate

Cool Alt Hist idea: France refuses to back down, and continue to aggressively challenge the European order. Napoleonic Wars 2.0 begins!

I wish there were dozens of people like you that would do such courses on all types of data such as medical types its so damn EZ learnin

@looinrims

2 жыл бұрын

Because it’s all surface level stuff that doesn’t even come close to even referencing all of the important points let alone any detail Ie there’s barely any data to disseminate

I love the von Mackinsen hat in the beginning!

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1920's France: WE MUST ENFORCE THE TREATY OF VERSAILLES 1930's France: Germany's building up their military and not living up to the treaty? who gives a shit.

@xenotypos

3 жыл бұрын

It was already too late. They (the others powers (just my way to say Britain)) should have reacted right from the start, in 1920. When it was possible. After that, wether France wanted it or not didn't change much: they just couldn't do it anymore.

@andreleclerc7231

3 жыл бұрын

Actually even as soon as the sudeten crisis France was ready to make it a war over it if Britain was willing to do its part. Czech and Poles were ready to go too.

@looinrims

3 жыл бұрын

@@xenotypos what a stupid notion “let’s punish them for violating something they...haven’t violated yet”

@looinrims

3 жыл бұрын

@@andreleclerc7231 considering how the poles ended their conflict there’s no way they’d be able to go on the offensive Also the Czechs had little popular support for this supposed offensive Ignore how the French were completely incapable of offensive operations And Britain had little in ground forces due to decreased budgets “Gah we should attack before they’re ready, why didn’t we think of that?” What a historical insight

@xenotypos

3 жыл бұрын

@@looinrims No idea what the fuck you're even talking about. Maybe you're replying to a post from another dimension or something.

Me when I find a history matters video with no James Bissonette comments:😱

Great content!

1:12 France: Germany isn’t making their payments so let’s put economic sanctions on them! Britain: But wouldn’t that reduce their ability to make further payments to you? France: ...

@salviniusaugustus5541

4 жыл бұрын

Germany had the ability to pay. They didn't want to. That's what dumb British thinking they are so smart, still don't understand.

@bobbyferg9173

4 жыл бұрын

Salvinius Augustus I would like to point out that there is a difference between having money and being able to pay off a debt. Just as someone who is paying off a car loan wouldn’t give all of their money at once to pay the loan, as they wouldn’t have very much money for necessities like food or even gas, Germany wouldn’t give their entire treasury at once to pay off their debt, since they have to take care of their own country first. Considering that Germany was recovering from the massive loss that WW1 brought, I wouldn’t say they were in the best shape to be paying other countries. You also have to consider that from the perspective of the people in Germany that the Government giving so much money to a foreign power, who were previously at war nonetheless, looks like they are easily submitting. Basically diverting so much resources to pay of France’s (quite unfair) fine would only lead to the German people suffering more.

@1000eau

4 жыл бұрын

France : I NEED TO PUNCH GERMANY !

@freewal

4 жыл бұрын

In 1923 the German industry had excellent results when the French and the Belgian ones were destroyed by the German invasion. German factories were not destroyed by the war. All the German infrastructure was ok. Germany had the money. They just didn’t want to pay and repair.

@bobbyferg9173

4 жыл бұрын

Amazigh Blue Azul - Anti Mafia - Anti ANPD France: No you can’t have your own intact factories, it is unfair! Germany: Ha ha production lines go Vrrrrrrrrrr

France: we should strike while we can. Britain: Na it's fine there will be no drawbacks at all.

@ViriatoII

3 жыл бұрын

That's funny because French love strikes ;p

Regarding Versailles and lost territories: Some territories such as Upper Silesia and Memel were annexed by other countries, while the people in those territories voted to stay a part of Germany. The referendums that took place were a part of the Versailles treaty, not the instant annexation.

@adrianatgaming8640

4 жыл бұрын

it's a great strategy if you ever consider building an empire: take someone else's land, then deport the local people and replace them with your own. bam, now it's ethnic *insert ethnicity* territory. side effects including creating a hellhole for nationalist ranting.

@antanassmetona4054

4 жыл бұрын

Not sure about Upper Silesia, but Memel was always inhabited by Lithuanian Germans. When Memel was taken by Lithuania none of the people living there complained, or even tried to revolt.

@grandinquisitor8335

4 жыл бұрын

@@antanassmetona4054 didn't Lithuania get memel from France from a Crimean style uprising?

@antanassmetona4054

4 жыл бұрын

@@grandinquisitor8335 Memel was at that time being set up to become a city state, which Lithuania kept on refusing to happen. The whole region of Memel was inhabitated by Lithuanians, and it had a port which Lithuania wanted. Those two things were the major facts that caused the incident. Lithuania was not getting a chance to speak up in the world press, so it felt pressured to take matter into it's own hands - knowing that no one will listen to Lithuania's wishes. So to safely put it: no, France wanted to create a state of it's own, just like the free city of Danzig.

@grandinquisitor8335

4 жыл бұрын

@@antanassmetona4054 I meant to say stole it from France sorry

3:02 i like that they just looking at each other instead of running around like usual

Allies to France after WW1: Dividing Germany is a bad idea. Allies after WW2: Let's divide Germany ?

@samarkand1585

2 жыл бұрын

Russia was not the 'Allies' in WW2

@ixlnxs

2 жыл бұрын

@@samarkand1585 😎 Correct. The Soviet Union was the biggest of the Allies. 🤩 EDIT: 1941-1945 that is

@llamaboxx

2 жыл бұрын

@@samarkand1585 if I remember correctly they had their own faction called the Cominterm right?

@eleacy6231

2 жыл бұрын

@@llamaboxx Yes, but they were also in the Allies with the United Kingdom and the United States

@squarek123

Жыл бұрын

@@ixlnxs September 17 1939 moment

France: we wanna avoid the repeat of the great war Also france: hiipity hoppity all your shit is my property.

@tictac2therevenge291

3 жыл бұрын

French industry was wrecked by the fighting while German was left intact, and France owed lots of money to the US and UK Someone has to pay

@looinrims

3 жыл бұрын

@@tictac2therevenge291 the innocents of France and Germany, obviously And they got sweet nothing from their occupation, oh accept to set the stage to lose THEIR ENTIRE COLONIAL EMPIRE Woooo, that’s quite the profit

@tictac2therevenge291

3 жыл бұрын

@@looinrims What would you have suggested?

@looinrims

3 жыл бұрын

@@tictac2therevenge291 suggested for what?

@tictac2therevenge291

3 жыл бұрын

@@looinrims For the problem I just presented, how should France have dealt with the need for money that was caused its neighbor? Should they print it all? Wait for it to fall out of the sky?

We need a video on Napolean the 3rd

@nb2008nc

4 жыл бұрын

Napo lean? More like Napo Fat. That's what happens when you misspell Napoleon...

3:04 **exists** History Matters enthusiasts: Impossible

0:47 "Let's just print more money!" Me: Wait, no! This is a bad idea!

The last time I was this early, the French was a competent empire.

@christiangaming-fy6rv

4 жыл бұрын

So u were never early?

@abigweed1811

4 жыл бұрын

@@christiangaming-fy6rv oof

@efthymiosanagnostos7427

4 жыл бұрын

Projekt:Kobra the Greeks held out in ww2 for 6-7 months delaying Germans and getting the first allied victory. France barely could hold for a month with British help lol

@syrialak101

4 жыл бұрын

@Projekt:Kobra Get your head out of your ass.

@frankgonzalezdelvalle8180

4 жыл бұрын

@Projekt:Kobra ok french boomer

Germany: We have the Ruhr France: We have an army Iron Man: We have a Hulk HistoryMatters: We have James Bisanette

almost 1 million views keep up the good work

I had no idea this even happened. THANK YOU!

he should do a video on how Germany got out of hyper inflation

Someone dies...they tip over Someone celebrates..they float through a field of daisies Meanwhile Serious voice!

This is so useful for my studies thanks!

Nobody Germany: *T I M E*

@Cjnw

4 жыл бұрын

*N O R M I E*

What's missing in this presentation is what happened in 1914-1918 in French and Belgium occupied territories. In 4 years, Germany occupied most of Belgium and about 10% of France. In these areas, Germany systematically organized forced labor for men/boy above 9 years old. Women, men, kids were forced to work for free in France, but many were also deported in Germany to support war effort. As an example, 10,000 people were deported in Holzminden camp in Germany alone. About 100,000 people were brought by force into Germany to support the German economy. As a reminder, German prisonners in France, UK, and later in US were not asked to work. Food allowances were restricted to 1,300 calories per person. They seized 75% of all crops and harvest available. In order to compensate this food restrictions, rations were granted by the US Embassy in Bruxelles and the red cross which were funded by US (386,000,000 USD), France (205,000,000 USD) and UK (109,000,000 USD), so that Allied powers were supporting the financial burden Germany would not carry. On top of this, each occupied city had to pay for a fee to support the German troops stationned within their area (about 184,000,000 French Francs). Germany had also set up a administrative service called Schutzverwaltung to seize all machines, plants and services that could be transferred in Germany. When Germany troops had to evacuate the areas they occupied in 1918 they simply damaged everything they could not take; mines were flooded, plants were destroyed. In 1923, French territory alone (excl. Belgium) accounted for 620 villages and cities totally destroyed (Reims for example had only 12 buildings left !), 1,334 destroyed above 50%, 2,349 partially destroyed, 293,043 buildings had been totally destroyed, 148,948 severely damaged. Alfred Sauvy, an well reputated economist estimated that the cost of the war for France was 34,000,000,000 French Francs. German troops also executed without trials civilians, and in several occasions massacres were pertpetrated. After the war Germany refused to hand over the officers who gave the orders for such acts. It is estimated that 30,000 civilians had been killed in labor camps, fortress or in random military actions in occupied France, and 8,000 were simplied shot dead. Finally, France and Germany went at war in 1870-1871, and France lost. France repaid every single gold coin it had to pay to Germany, and German troops left France only in 1873 when the last coin was received. Germany benefited from special economical benefits over the trade on the Rhine river until .. 1914. So, France respected the first Versailles treaty dated 1871 in which the country was humiliated and punished. French troops in Ruhr sounds like a bad idea when looking back in 2019, but the decisions and actions taken in 1923 cannot be disconnected from what happened just right before, and considering that Germany did not suffer the war in its own territory, and that Germany imposed strict decisions over France in 1870-1871 until 1914.

@nicolasaudra8709

4 жыл бұрын

Excellent ! Très bien dit et résumé.

@louisg6296

4 жыл бұрын

Merci putain Ce qu'on peut voir dans les coms... y a même des mecs qui nous rendent responsables de la seconde guerre mondiale...

@zap3231

3 жыл бұрын

You're forgetting that the French didn't care. Like the video says.

@FredericGaillot

3 жыл бұрын

@@zap3231 French always cared about Germany not to be too strong. German cared as well. They were shocked by the presence of black troops in the Ruhr area. During 1940 French campaign, German troops bluntly executed black soldiers like in Clamecy, Angivillers, Erquinvillers or Cressonsacq simply to take revenge over this 1923 occupation.

@zap3231

3 жыл бұрын

@@FredericGaillot Explain, then, why in the Treaty of Versailles was France against war reparations (except for a really modest infrastructure repaid fee)

correction: France and Belgium (and the UK and the rest of the Entente) did not want reparations for the horrors of war they had endured. Basically, since the war waged for longer than people had expected and the destruction and human loss was way beyond what was known, the enemy (mainly Germany) started being demonized in the eyes of the masses, and the reason of the war slowly turned from "we're gonna defend ourselves" to "germans will have to pay for what they've done to us". Politicians of the time probably realized that asking Germany for reparations was useless since they couldn't possibly pay what they were asking, but they couldn't go against the expectations of the masses since they needed their votes after all.

@draganescuconstantin2380

4 жыл бұрын

this combined with the fact that France and the UK didn't know how to keep Germany under control (and the fact that the UK didn't really want to get involved in mainland affairs) meant that reparations was the best solution they could come up with at the time, since the Versailles conference went less than optimal to say the least (way too many issues that needed to be resolved since a lot of small states with regional issues were present, and not enough time since the people on the victorious side were eager to get their reparations)

Do a video about the Lithuanian revolts against communist occupation in 1941 June and the Partisan uprising beetwen 1944-1953.

@jonasaleksandras6033

4 жыл бұрын

@An unimpressed Rooster I do. It would make an interesting video for people who watch, if you dont like it thats your problem

@ecoper210

4 жыл бұрын

I do too, it's always interesting to hear and learn about new stuff!

@jonasaleksandras6033

4 жыл бұрын

@@ecoper210 Well I am Lithuanian and these uprisings are barely known outside my country.

@brandonlyon730

4 жыл бұрын

Honestly it be an interesting video if they talked about the Soviet Union occupy and quickly annexing the Baltic states and all of the politics that went on in them.

1:02 Subtitles : Due to the horrors they had to *enjoy* during the first world war

@justhere4637

6 ай бұрын

It's kind of the same. Subtitles: "because of the horrors they had to enjoy during the First World War" (17 Nov, 2023).

I live in the Ruhr Valley and back in 1923 when Belgian troops marched into our town, the people immediately stopped working. They even deliberately let a mine shaft collapse and blew up a railway bridge as to stop them from getting any resources. Damn... They didn’t like that occupation one bit...

@AlexC-ou4ju

2 жыл бұрын

now you know how the Belgians felt in 1914-1918 when the German Troops marched into their towns.

@looinrims

2 жыл бұрын

@@AlexC-ou4ju the difference is the Belgians didn’t win the war against the Germans It’d be like if the Kuwaitis occupied Basra after the gulf war

@walideg5304

Жыл бұрын

@@looinrims the Belgians were a wining country. They resisted bravely during World War One. The barbaric Wehrmacht destroyed 95 % of the industrial installation of Belgium,

@looinrims

Жыл бұрын

@@walideg5304 they were completely occupied until the end of the war lol

@walideg5304

Жыл бұрын

@@looinrims they fought bravely. They were admirable. Albert the Soldier King was brave and courageous.

I love the little block August von Mackensen

that 'infinite money' bit, hillarious

"Print more money, what could go wrong" - Argentina aproves this plan

2:03 in the background there is a "El Presidente"

for your interest, in French we say "premièrement" and "secondement" (if there is no third) or "deuxièmement" (if there is a third)

i love these short vids but are you ever going back to the long one? i miss them

3:00 [ Venezuela enters the Chat ]

@tech4pros1

4 жыл бұрын

[ Zimbabwe has entered the chat]

@slewone4905

4 жыл бұрын

Democrats enter the CHat.

Just imagine WWI was mainly happening on American soil, lets say between the USA on one side and Mexico & the Commonwealth on the other. After some years of War the USA lost and the Winner take the land witch wars captured by the USA in the War against Spain. But the Winner want more - maybe because he have to take more. And the Canadian Army occupy the region around Detroit and kill several US civilians threre. Did you think the US People would say "oh, its ok we lost the War and have no rights to complain anyways"? with an economic crysis and a agressive neigborhood the US People would be easy to catch by some right-wing movements too.. thats for Sure..

@nestpascamillekazeyquiveut9984

4 жыл бұрын

The thing is that WW1 didn't happen on German soil but on Belgian and French soil. That is why France and Belgium were more rude against Germany compared to the US and GB who's countries had not been threatened and who didn't forced conscription.

@fj1659

4 жыл бұрын

@@nestpascamillekazeyquiveut9984 i think you know that the reason for all this Chaos and all the human pain wars not Germanys Offensive against France and Belgium. France want this "revengewar" more than any other Nation for the lost War from 1870-71. Of cause the Invasion in Belgium wars wrong. The German highcommand Made this Plans more than 10 years earlyer. And even in this Time the Plan wars obsolete

@11Survivor

4 жыл бұрын

@@fj1659 WW1 happened on French and Belgian soil. The ardennes: French and Belgian soil. Lorraine: French soil. Alsace: The only part of the 2nd Reich that saw active combat but was then retaken by the French after the war so technically French soil. I could go on, and on, and on with how most of the battles were on French soil on the western front.

@fj1659

4 жыл бұрын

@@11Survivor it wars just an Exemple. I just want to say that every Country in the World would be an easy Catch for extreme political movements if the economic, social and political situation is the same like the situaion in Germany in the interwar years. The Anti-German politics of France, GB, and the USA wars the foundation for the rise of the Nazis in Germany.

@axelpatrickb.pingol3228

4 жыл бұрын

It's called the "Southern Victory" series by Harry Turtledove...

You got me straight away with "Can we stop?"

I mean, this plan of simply adding more money never failed me in Roller Coaster Tycoon…who knew it wouldn’t work for France?

2:55 STOP *PRNTING* MONEY!

The Interwar Period, also known as Debt Simulator.

@BirdTurdMemes

3 жыл бұрын

Hydro 07 Or debt collecter simulator if you’re American

3:03 at least it wasn't "Sonic inflation"

I love this youtubechannel

Imagine trying to weaken an enemy into permanent submission but it instead came back stronger...

@brandonlyon730

4 жыл бұрын

It was probably a better idea to have just split Germany up in a dozen smaller states, as they did to Austria-Hungary and the Ottomans.

@areulsois8411

4 жыл бұрын

@@brandonlyon730 but the people are still german, they cant be seperated by nationalism.

@mopmop9552

3 жыл бұрын

@Stephen Jenkins At the time they wanted. The Austrian Republic was named "German Austria" by it´s people and wanted to join Germany. But the allies forbade it in the Versailles Treaty (another case of that fucked up idea of "national self-determination", or at least the implementation of it).

Bit disappointed that you went with the "Germany so dumb they printed lots of money" cliche. They knew hyperinflation was a risk, but were desperate. Printing money can actually be benefitial if you get quantities right. We call it "quantative easing" these days.

@luuchoo93

4 жыл бұрын

mankytoes Germany did suffer a lot from hyperinflation . No country in history has ever benefited from that insane level of inflation

@brandonlyon730

4 жыл бұрын

If you literally have to have a wheelbarrow full of money out just to buy grocery’s you might need to rethink of printing out endless money.

@mankytoes

4 жыл бұрын

@@brandonlyon730 Yes, and by that point obviously they knew that. The intention was to inflat the currency, but it ran out of control. Saying they decided to have hyperinflation is like saying we decided to have a recession.

@alanpennie8013

4 жыл бұрын

@Garviel Loken Revolutions and hyper inflation tend to go together. Revolutionary governments lack legitimacy and find it hard to collect taxes.

@seneca983

4 жыл бұрын

@@mankytoes: It's clear they did way too much "QE". And I don't think comparing it to QE done by contemporary central banks is fair. Today QE is done when inflation (in addition to nominal interest rates) is too low and needs to be increased to boost aggregate demand. In the Weimar Republic, they printed more money to raise money through seigniorage with no regard for too high inflation which is just bonkers.

USA: “hey guys, let’s take it easy on Germany’s war payments.” Also USA: [punches France in the face] “where’s my money? Huh? Where’s my money? You better have it by tomorrow morning!”

Moral of the story is, non violent resistance pays off.

Frances invades Germany: Ladies and gentlemen welcome to the Twighlight Zone.

@meandmetoo8436

4 жыл бұрын

Have you missed the 19th century or something ?

@meandmetoo8436

4 жыл бұрын

@Pepe the Frogdepends where do you put the creation of Germany. Do you put it at Eastern Francia, Prussia, or 19th century Germany.

@skiteufr

4 жыл бұрын

Louis XIV and Napoléon are laughing at your ignorance.

@nahouledeb5949

4 жыл бұрын

John Kolmer Napoleon invaded Germany, Louis XIV too.

@CAM8689

3 жыл бұрын

france has invaded the german states many many many times some I guess ww2 is as far as some ppl's knowledge go even then france invaded germany first in the saarland

Could you please do an episode about the Corfu crisis in 1923?

Germany: When they see me printing' They gon be hating 🔥🔥

Your videos teach me more about history then 12 years of school did

@robertjarczak5710

Жыл бұрын

he makes the home front and 1920s in europe way better then any class i've been to

0:13 Fun fact: germany seems like a dragon head

I have relatives who were killed by french soldiers during the occupation.

@lsq7833

4 жыл бұрын

Good riddance

@N11Productions

4 жыл бұрын

excuse me? Are you kidding? You are a horrible person to suggest that the death of innocents is warranted for ANY reason

@m.m6990

4 жыл бұрын

@@N11Productions its ok he must be like 10 years old ha

@N11Productions

4 жыл бұрын

@@m.m6990 He's probably some 10 year old french nationalist.

@nestpascamillekazeyquiveut9984

4 жыл бұрын

@@Wiktor33 Hmm which Germany? France is by far the greatest western european army.

Can you make a Peak Sweden mug? I’d buy that instantly

Nobody: Weimar Government: So anyway I started printing.

Can you do a video on how Germany was able to build up such a large military after WW1?

@144digital

5 ай бұрын

Don't know if you're willing to watch long form videos but TimeGhost history has some information about this