The Framework Laptop - I Love It!

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My review of the Framework Laptop. This is the best laptop you can get right now if you want a completely repairable and upgradeable device.
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  • @Dave2D
    @Dave2D3 жыл бұрын

    I WANNA HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS ON FRAMEWORK! Is it cool to you? do you believe in it? would you get one? think they'll surrvive? I think this is the longest laptop video i've ever done cuz there's so much to talk about. Thanks for watching!

  • @sherlockmaverick

    @sherlockmaverick

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'd get one. Right now, they're North America only, but as soon as they come to India, I'll try to get one! I really appreciate the ideology behind this and want to support it in any way I can.

  • @PeterNjeim

    @PeterNjeim

    3 жыл бұрын

    You pay the same price as a laptop with a dGPU, but instead of that you get extra repairability. If you want that then go ahead, I'll take my dGPU

  • @Anankin12

    @Anankin12

    3 жыл бұрын

    Gonna buy one of those the second is available in my country, as long as the price is basically the same as the US one (Italy)

  • @mnn7426

    @mnn7426

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have a simple philosophy..... If Dave likes it, then it's good otherwise it's shit

  • @Anankin12

    @Anankin12

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PeterNjeim You must live in a strange country, because here dGPU laptops start at 1100€.

  • @RaedVS
    @RaedVS2 жыл бұрын

    "You can smell it. They give a shit." - Dave Lee, 2021

  • @gurubhaktmohit

    @gurubhaktmohit

    2 жыл бұрын

    Uh oh

  • @Malysitos

    @Malysitos

    2 жыл бұрын

    14:29 for timestamp

  • @Aligatorxx3

    @Aligatorxx3

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm CREASING 🤣

  • @ilovejeffhardy3906

    @ilovejeffhardy3906

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wait a minute (meme) this isn’t Dave 🤔

  • @youarecorrectiamwrongbecau1338

    @youarecorrectiamwrongbecau1338

    2 жыл бұрын

    This has pun intended 🤣😂

  • @mistrrrmedia
    @mistrrrmedia2 жыл бұрын

    I can see a low-end version of this (with ChromeOS or something similar) being popular in schools. I work at a repair shop and we get broken laptops from schools all the time that end up being replaced because of nonmodular components failing regularly. A laptop like this can save schools a lot of money in repair costs.

  • @peppigue

    @peppigue

    2 жыл бұрын

    Big public orders would take products like this to the next level.

  • @tec4303

    @tec4303

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think the price premium for modularity would stay about the same though, so if it's 10% to 15% more expensive like Dave thought on a 1000$ device, that's an extra 100$ - 150$. On a low end device that costs around 400$, that makes it a lot less attractive.

  • @tec4303

    @tec4303

    2 жыл бұрын

    @i-mm-o res yea, it might still make financial sense and it's certainly better for the environment, I just think that people might be put off by the higher initial price.

  • @tec4303

    @tec4303

    2 жыл бұрын

    @i-mm-o res My point in my first comment was that it probably won't be 40$ more but 100$ more, because I suspect that making a laptop modular will be around 100$ more expensive no matter what chip you put inside and what operating system you put on it.

  • @pranavtaysheti7858

    @pranavtaysheti7858

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@tec4303 makes sense. The motherboard amount of screws, machine time, etc will be quite similar.

  • @InformatrIIcks
    @InformatrIIcks2 жыл бұрын

    "it has extra thickness" To be fully honest, without direct comparison, i doubt most people would be able to notice a few millimetres more or less.

  • @Petero3

    @Petero3

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's just 0.3mm thicker than the M1 Macbook Pro. For comparison, MB Pro Retina 13-inch (late 2013 - early 2015) is 2.1mm thicker than the Framework.

  • @tbonico1273

    @tbonico1273

    2 жыл бұрын

    is thicker than a surface laptop 3, but is narrower, and the cooling system is far better because those mm extra.

  • @Palpac

    @Palpac

    2 жыл бұрын

    Let's be honest laptop s are not heavy and a couple if mm thicker doesn't make a difference.

  • @BiosElement

    @BiosElement

    2 жыл бұрын

    Indeed, to be honest I don't think a few mm is a good excuse for getting a 'thinner' laptop. At this point they're so thin durability has become a joke. What's the point of having a device if it is broken when you reach for it? Note there are jobs where thin/light is important, but for everyday use? Not really...

  • @fredrikmudas

    @fredrikmudas

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BiosElement yeah brand keep making some excuses that "WE" want a slimmer laptop that we can carry all day long. Even your venti starbuck plus your smartphone have more weight and you carry it with no hussle.

  • @ChristopherBurtraw
    @ChristopherBurtraw Жыл бұрын

    As for mass appeal, I think the modularity of the ports will be the selling feature to the general public.

  • @arrrrr9831

    @arrrrr9831

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah I reckon if Apple keeps fucking people over with repairs, this laptop can be marketed to be cheap to repair at your local repair shop. And easy to upgrade down the line. Everyone doesn't have to repair it themselves. But they can still get the other benefits.

  • @TheDeathmail

    @TheDeathmail

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't think that the molecularity would matter much to the general public... for many people, these ports can be useless. And if they want more ports, there are plenty of options with way more than 4 ports... 4 ports isn't a lot...

  • @gladwindave

    @gladwindave

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheDeathmail 4 ports might be not a lot, but you could choose what kind of ports you want to use. Like not everybody need or always use the MicroSD card reader so might just add one more usb-a ports. And so on

  • @indigomizumi

    @indigomizumi

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gladwindave And they're also bringing out a larger 16" model with 6 ports later this year.

  • @arnaldoalange3869

    @arnaldoalange3869

    Жыл бұрын

    Hm... i don't think so, i Love Modularity, i'm Sad that Awesome Projects like Pockit and Phoneblocks failed or got supposedly cancelled, but the reason why those projects failed is because people are immediatist, if someone want a phone, for example, he/she just want to pick up and use it, without having the problem to buy separated parts, and the other problem and the reason why we don't have at least the option, is the companies, they want profit, and they want profit with No Risk and low investment, which is Not what the Modularity have, an idea like this is very risky and expensive, so of course no company want to risk on something like that, so is Sad for me to say this, but the truth is, the Modularity will never be a thing.

  • @tazoman26
    @tazoman263 жыл бұрын

    It is up to us tech enthusiasts to make this laptop mainstream, if we support this, it can become the norms.

  • @danielee8418

    @danielee8418

    3 жыл бұрын

    But enthusiasts are not mainstream ever

  • @tonisara2950

    @tonisara2950

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Queen Elsa lol

  • @Dave2D

    @Dave2D

    3 жыл бұрын

    to stay alive, i think they need WAY more volume than just the enthusiasts.

  • @Saihein98

    @Saihein98

    3 жыл бұрын

    Chelsea sucks

  • @Saihein98

    @Saihein98

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Dave2D daddy f word me

  • @pooblock4092
    @pooblock40923 жыл бұрын

    No music, no cuts… This guy has the easiest editing job of all youtubers lol. I still have no clue how he talks for 10 minutes without a single mistake. Insane production Dave!

  • @May16Joe

    @May16Joe

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm sure he rehearses before recording and that takes time but makes editing easier. I've seen a youtuber live recording his video talking about a movie and he had a paper of what he was going to talk about going over and over until he started recording. It's kinda like an actor memorizing his part.

  • @adampeterfong

    @adampeterfong

    3 жыл бұрын

    There were loads of cuts

  • @squeatley

    @squeatley

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@adampeterfong ditto

  • @robwhitmore3040

    @robwhitmore3040

    2 жыл бұрын

    2 minutes in and 3 cuts

  • @efragione

    @efragione

    2 жыл бұрын

    For realll was thinking the same thing

  • @chrismeyer3017
    @chrismeyer30172 жыл бұрын

    As of 05/26/22 Framework has launched their motherboard with Intel’s 12th Gen processor. They have also redesigned the lid which you can order by itself. This fixes the flex in the lid.

  • @GeoStreber

    @GeoStreber

    Жыл бұрын

    As of 2023-03-24, Framework just announced 13th gen CPU motherboards as well as Zen 4 motherboards, and also announced a new 16-inch Laptop with swappable dGPU and even higher modularity.

  • @chrismeyer3017

    @chrismeyer3017

    Жыл бұрын

    @@GeoStreber I watched the live event on 3/24/23. They have some exciting things coming. I started my curiosity and support of Framework 3 yrs ago when they first stared. I was skeptical because so many nave tried to create a upgradable laptop and failed. From the first time cracked open my 11th gen intel DIY edition, I just knew it was different. I created blogs reviewing the laptop and the company. Yesterday was a high leap forward and they planted their flag and aren’t going anywhere!

  • @FR4M3Sharma

    @FR4M3Sharma

    Жыл бұрын

    @@GeoStreber 6 Ports of Awesomeness.

  • @HH-le1vi
    @HH-le1vi3 жыл бұрын

    If Framework does well enough to get into gaming laptops I'd get one instantly. Being able to upgrade more than storage and memory is a DIYers dream

  • @philippecr

    @philippecr

    2 жыл бұрын

    GO BUY THEM NOW! Other then some super thin laptop and recent macbooks, most gaming laptops allow ram and storage upgrades. Just not graphics and processor. LOL

  • @GeoStreber

    @GeoStreber

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Phoenix 𝙾𝚙𝚎𝚗 𝙼𝚢 PROFILE Yeah you're posting this comment everywhere, we get it. Now stop spamming.

  • @patricknelson

    @patricknelson

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’m thinking I could go for it now and maybe later still have that flexibility. Either a new motherboard with the GPU or when they support thunderbolt (which may be sooner) for an eGPU case. I’m not a gamer and would just be for personal productivity use, so for me it’s not a showstopper yet. The freedom of upgradeability in the future with the portability of a laptop is what makes it so appealing though.

  • @matthewtrebs9738

    @matthewtrebs9738

    2 жыл бұрын

    You can get an eGPU, which wouldnt be very mobile, but neither are gaming laptops anyway with the battery they eat

  • @brandonn.1275

    @brandonn.1275

    Жыл бұрын

    Fortunately they're gonna release their 16 inch version with a discrete GPU soon 🎉

  • @ixidorstrinity
    @ixidorstrinity3 жыл бұрын

    “It’s because they’ve spons…” I died. It’d be so cool if this inspires modularity among big brands

  • @chrstfer2452

    @chrstfer2452

    3 жыл бұрын

    Honestly, id love it for chip manufacturers and their partners to support modularity, but what i really want to see is an ecosystem of new innovators step up and create the space for modular tech as a whole, rather than trash tier old-tech trying to force this concept through their old marketing/production methods and fucking it all up

  • @iamunknownperiod3355

    @iamunknownperiod3355

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was playing the video while eating and I swear I almost spat out my drink when he said that lmao

  • @yasirelec

    @yasirelec

    3 жыл бұрын

    What time stamp he says that?

  • @seercasimir2734

    @seercasimir2734

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sadly, you cannot inspire big brand.. You can only make them fear you. They will always try to make your whole laptop unless someone else can deliver on modularity.

  • @LaurensiusAdiKun

    @LaurensiusAdiKun

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@yasirelec 14:53

  • @devshankartripathi3848
    @devshankartripathi38483 жыл бұрын

    This laptop is "THE DREAM". Can't wait for an all upgradable gaming laptop from these guys.

  • @Moon_Presence

    @Moon_Presence

    3 жыл бұрын

    Just imagine, hotswapping a gpu!

  • @abubakrakram6208

    @abubakrakram6208

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’ll be harder because of MXM, but I’d love to see it.

  • @primorock8141

    @primorock8141

    3 жыл бұрын

    It'd be easier to sell too because gamers are more likely to be into modularity

  • @JATIN-cm1gf

    @JATIN-cm1gf

    3 жыл бұрын

    but i have a doubt, if we upgrade its cpu and gpu, how its hardware is going to react...

  • @a-don13

    @a-don13

    3 жыл бұрын

    cloud gaming is coming

  • @josiahhoodenpyle4813
    @josiahhoodenpyle48132 жыл бұрын

    I work at an energy utility and we're looking into the framework laptops to replace our fleet of Dell Latitude devices. The price is quite comparable, but the repairability is king for us. The ability to maintain our devices well into the future with upgradeable motherboards and replaceable everything is very appealing compared to the standard obsolescence cycles of every other brand out there.

  • @masteroogvvay

    @masteroogvvay

    Жыл бұрын

    Did you guys go for it?

  • @josiahhoodenpyle4813

    @josiahhoodenpyle4813

    Жыл бұрын

    @@masteroogvvay unfortunately not. We tried, but after several requests for a quote I was told "Add the items to your cart and that's how much they cost". They simply don't understand how business operate with quotes and invoices. I can't order 100 laptops on my company credit card 😄 Hopefully they get their B2B sorted and I can try again. It's a fantastic concept and device.

  • @Xamy-

    @Xamy-

    Жыл бұрын

    It sounds like their b2b has been set up now @Josiah Hoodenple

  • @josiahhoodenpyle4813

    @josiahhoodenpyle4813

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Xamy- I'll have to give them another try. Thanks for the tag!

  • @N0Xa880iUL

    @N0Xa880iUL

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@josiahhoodenpyle4813 You make it sound like a bigger problem than it is.

  • @lawsonkennamer6554
    @lawsonkennamer65542 жыл бұрын

    I love my framework so much it just came in and I'm very satisfied. The build quality is incredible, much higher than I was expecting.

  • @williamnale7835

    @williamnale7835

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's great. Does the outer case feel sturdy? I have a M1 MBA with great build quality but zero upgradeability and very poor repairability. I hope Framework really catches on so the big co's start offering products like this too. I think the original MBA ushered us into this world of glued/soldered throwaways...

  • @cyanprince00

    @cyanprince00

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's good to hear. Was sceptical, the display frame looked a lil off to me. I wanted maybe a stronger/higher quality aluminum display border but I think it's ok. It's also customizable and with more possible options in the future!

  • @AS-tr5cg

    @AS-tr5cg

    2 жыл бұрын

    How is yours holding up? Mine is still going strong as ever. Best laptop I have used.

  • @lawsonkennamer6554

    @lawsonkennamer6554

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@AS-tr5cg mine is great i love it

  • @lawsonkennamer6554

    @lawsonkennamer6554

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@williamnale7835 it is very sturdy

  • @Rowrin
    @Rowrin3 жыл бұрын

    Pre-ordered one because I like the concept and its execution seems solid. Configured it with no OS, No ssd, no ram. Going to install linux, use the NVME I pulled out of my razer blade pro that I upgraded last year as well as the ram. Saves a couple hundred bucks and puts to use components I would otherwise have no use for.

  • @lawrencepettifer4102

    @lawrencepettifer4102

    3 жыл бұрын

    love this approach

  • @loicvanderwielen

    @loicvanderwielen

    3 жыл бұрын

    I would buy the Wifi module (because they have WiFi 6 and I currently don't have that) but I'm definitely keeping my NVMe, mostly because I'm planning to upgrade the storage on my current laptop and my RAM is already 16GB DDR4 so it wouldn't be an update. That being said, I'm not planning on buying one until my current laptop breaks (probably from a cooling failure if things keep going the way they are...), mostly because doing so would be needlessly generating e-waste.

  • @hellodumplings8564

    @hellodumplings8564

    3 жыл бұрын

    Why Linux?

  • @loicvanderwielen

    @loicvanderwielen

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@hellodumplings8564 Because why pay a hundred bucks or more for something less secure or stable?

  • @jeetansh.parihar

    @jeetansh.parihar

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@hellodumplings8564 because the people who would be using it, Linux are their lifelines. Windows is not something these people go for.

  • @AQDuck
    @AQDuck3 жыл бұрын

    Imagine having "repairable" as a selling point... What a lovely world we live in.

  • @MorbidEel

    @MorbidEel

    2 жыл бұрын

    I don't think repairable is the selling point. The selling point is easily upgradeable but anything easily upgradeable also has the side effect of being repairable since at worst you can "repair" by replacing a subcomponent instead of the whole system.

  • @julianbinder2371

    @julianbinder2371

    2 жыл бұрын

    capitalism baby

  • @trowawayacc

    @trowawayacc

    2 жыл бұрын

    We have allowed it to get like this. A big selling point for legion 5 is the fully upgradable ram, unlike soldered ram on asus. Repairability cost will come down if people start caring again. And in this crisis climate i will take this laptop over any other if only it had a gpu. That is the only thing keeping me from owning one.

  • @charohazard

    @charohazard

    2 жыл бұрын

    then fight for right to repair

  • @UNSCPILOT

    @UNSCPILOT

    2 жыл бұрын

    Deffinitly happy to support projects like this to make "repairable / upgradeable" the norm so disposable devices go (at least mostly) extinct

  • @realsven87
    @realsven872 жыл бұрын

    I can imagine big company’s using framework hardware instead of having expensive business notebooks and their extra support fees. Our IT-Support team could repair hardware like this on their own. I hope that’s the future.

  • @leandros.5342
    @leandros.53422 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful engineering. Nice to see a company making their equipment repair being so much easier.

  • @ElTeeger
    @ElTeeger3 жыл бұрын

    Can we get a montage of Dave saying “all right”

  • @DJEcchi

    @DJEcchi

    3 жыл бұрын

    And when he says "Ok" as a segway to the next segment.

  • @ElTeeger

    @ElTeeger

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DJEcchi yes! Okay and all right

  • @SepiaMN

    @SepiaMN

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sure I’ll make it 😂

  • @kafka-

    @kafka-

    3 жыл бұрын

    and every time he takes a deep breath

  • @bassoonplatoon3146

    @bassoonplatoon3146

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DJEcchi and thats all he needs xd

  • @Czechmate88
    @Czechmate883 жыл бұрын

    There is no “conversation to be had”. These companies you speak of did not try and fail. Rather, they built computers that lasted as long as something you pay a significant amount of money for should (unibody MacBook), and they realized that they were “losing” money because people weren’t upgrading to the new thing every year or every other year. This all changed when they realized they could make a lot more money on expensive and overpriced repairs, proprietary parts, and doing shit like serializing the battery to the phone. All of this no longer incentivizes companies to actually innovate and release good products but rather release new products with minor updates and garbage like soldered on RAM (looking at you as well here Razer), soldered on memory, charging chips that are prone to failure and when they do, instead of replacing an $18 part you have to take it to Apple for a huge repair bill or have someone like Louis Rossmann rip apart an Apple battery pack and steal its charge port (creating unnecessary e-waste) all because Apple won’t allow the chip maker to sell to independent repairmen/repairwomen and that chip has a little controller in it that speaks to the computer, that if not present, will not allow your computer to charge. AND shit like Apple’s keyboard being riveted together; ALL so that in the end there is no upgrade path Thanks for coming to my Ted talk And go support right to repair while you’re at it

  • @damionmurray8244

    @damionmurray8244

    3 жыл бұрын

    This is a pretty old business concept that's been around since the 30's. Its called Built-in Obsolescence; where consumer products are intentionally designed with a limited shelf life to ensure a steady revenue stream. Its the backbone of many industries. Modularity is not totally at odds with the idea since end-users will still be replacing parts of the build over time. But I believe most companies just lack the wherewithal to pursue it. For a modular model to succeed they'd need to do a few things differently: 1. Offer end-users a ridiculous amount of variety in terms of modules - spanning from vanity items (custom skins and themes for the frame, bezels, keys etc.) to more serious fair. "There's a module for that", should be a given. 2. Raise consumer awareness so that the average Joe has at least a basic grasp of internal hardware and the value of modularity. A tall order to be sure, but I don't see this company sticking around if they don't at least try to cultivate that mindset among potential buyers. That's some serious ad spend right there. 3. Make the process of removing and installing modules near instantaneous and effortless. Screws are probably not going to cut it for long term sustainability (or durability). They need to look into alternatives; poly-magnets might be a good option for them to explore. And that's just scratching the surface. In any event, I hope they manage to pull this off somehow.

  • @abubakrakram6208

    @abubakrakram6208

    2 жыл бұрын

    When I read your comment, I hadn't watched the video. I assumed from your first line that Dave was sort of inviting companies and the industry in general to consider this modular model going forward; to have a conversation. With this assumption, your comment made sense, because it's clear that the OEMs are ignoring repairability on purpose. I was surprised that Dave could really be that naive. Then I watched the video and wanted to smash my head into the wall. You misunderstood the entire product category he was referring to in the beginning of the video. He wasn't claiming that the modular MacBooks and ThinkPads of 10+ years ago "failed," he was talking about more recent projects that attempted to bring that modularity back. Look at Google's Project Ara, or the Moto Mods, or most recently, Dell's disastrous Alienware Area 51m (which they're being sued for). All of these projects genuinely tried to bring modularity back as a niche selling point, and they all failed. He was rightfully comparing Framework to them. I appreciate the history you're laying out here, but I assure you, the people making these videos already know it.

  • @Czechmate88

    @Czechmate88

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@abubakrakram6208 To be honest I was pretty drunk last night and I only watched the first few minutes before it set me off. It feels like all these tech channels are supporting Right to Repair / user upgradeable computers to save face. They still keep in contact with these manufacturers. They still buy the products and use their services/ecosystem. Nothing changes and they just move on to the next new product. It leaves those who bought said product based off their recommendation stranded.

  • @abubakrakram6208

    @abubakrakram6208

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Czechmate88 Ah, I see. Yeah, like I said, I read your comment before watching the video, and I'd also only seen the first few minutes when I responded to you. It turns outs Dave actually listed the devices I wrote out at 13:50, so my comment was kinda pointless lol. About supporting RTR just to save face… I'm not sure. He said he bought one, and I don't think anyone who doesn't believe in the project would do that.

  • @jeanjasinczuk7543

    @jeanjasinczuk7543

    2 жыл бұрын

    To be successful, they need to offset the loss profit of selling a new computer to selling upgrades for the older computers. Another issue is a single part upgrade after a while requires other upgrades, thus making significant (or whole) replacement unavoidable.

  • @StefanHolmes
    @StefanHolmes2 жыл бұрын

    Preorders went live in the UK (and elsewhere) yesterday. Preordered mine today. I'd have loved for Lenovo to continue with their modular laptops, which was what their T-series used to be famous for. Their loss is Framework's gain.

  • @AS-tr5cg

    @AS-tr5cg

    2 жыл бұрын

    Man, I miss those modular T series laptops. Like the T430. That thing was a tank, and being able to just... replace the CPU in the laptop? That was top notch. Not to mention Trackpoint superiority.

  • @RDuude
    @RDuude3 жыл бұрын

    I'm really digging this concept, the ability to really customize it to what I want sounds fantastic.

  • @beepboopbeepboop190
    @beepboopbeepboop1903 жыл бұрын

    For me this is a no brainer. When my macbook dies this is definitely my next laptop. Never having to pay apple's repair costs again will be great and being able to choose the specific ports you want to have will be fantastic.

  • @jacob9673

    @jacob9673

    3 жыл бұрын

    Macs are reliable and great- but you’re right.

  • @RidwanNurzeha

    @RidwanNurzeha

    3 жыл бұрын

    Imagine if this thing support hackintosh

  • @fireworx_925

    @fireworx_925

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@RidwanNurzeha knowing the move to arm and Apple’s own M1 chip, I’m not going to be surprised to see Apple axing x86 support down the line, maybe in less than 5 years time even

  • @jmanius1

    @jmanius1

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@fireworx_925 In the framework community, there is talk about them creating ARM motherboard +cpu designs. So if the company lasts long enough (not an easy task), hackintosh could still easily be a thing.

  • @RidwanNurzeha

    @RidwanNurzeha

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@fireworx_925 and makes the MacOS as more closed system. Love the OS but not the price 😂

  • @chlorosokita596
    @chlorosokita5962 жыл бұрын

    I really hope Framework stays above for at least a decade. This kind of laptop, with Gentoo on it, it's like giving the finger to the GAFAM and the BATX companies. ‘I am not a number!’

  • @charlespetit5410
    @charlespetit54102 жыл бұрын

    Love to see you going right for it and trying a bunch of new things with you videos! Love the content!

  • @JUICEbaseball
    @JUICEbaseball3 жыл бұрын

    This could be one of your most important videos ever when it's all said and done Dave. Thanks for posting it. I wish framework all the best, they don't have anything that I would need right now but I look forward to the day they do!

  • @happycamperinc.

    @happycamperinc.

    3 жыл бұрын

    because not all major youtubers are covering this framework laptop

  • @bluephreakr

    @bluephreakr

    2 жыл бұрын

    Arguably, Linus Tech TIp's review of Framework is vastly more important by reach alone. Marques Brownlee's video about Right to Repair is important for diversity and minority reach. (Framework should have a matte black / glossy black config _just_ for him.) Louis Rossmann's videos are more important as the flagshiip of R2R culture. But yes, this video is good. I want to see this laptop in more hands, on more screens, with right to repair being the the drum they all beat.

  • @JUICEbaseball

    @JUICEbaseball

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bluephreakr I said it could be HIS most important video... I'm very aware of all the others... Thanks?

  • @AcidiFy574

    @AcidiFy574

    2 жыл бұрын

    Then give them money How else are they gonna make new stuff

  • @JUICEbaseball

    @JUICEbaseball

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@AcidiFy574 Just give them money, good advice.

  • @ChristinaWarren
    @ChristinaWarren3 жыл бұрын

    I ordered one and will hopefully get it next week! I love my M1 but for a thin and light repairable laptop, this looks ideal. I can’t wait to get it. Great video!

  • @nagoyen7292

    @nagoyen7292

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wait youre a microsoft developer that chose a macbook? 😯😯

  • @meetankush

    @meetankush

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@nagoyen7292 Microsoft will eventually move to ARM. x86 is not the future.

  • @QuanNguyen-yw3ft

    @QuanNguyen-yw3ft

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@meetankush x86 will still be relevant in the future

  • @meetankush

    @meetankush

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@QuanNguyen-yw3ft Well, they will be around, no doubt, but they will be as relevant as VIA processors are today.

  • @SimonBauer7

    @SimonBauer7

    3 жыл бұрын

    we need socketed arm chips because soldering everything on a desktop is going to piss a lot of people including me off

  • @ChristopherBurtraw
    @ChristopherBurtraw Жыл бұрын

    From what I understand, the Thunderbolt hardware is there, therefore everything should work, certification or not. Plenty of people seem to be running EGPUs on these. I also think the latest screen backing and hinges have been beefed up too.

  • @rafal06

    @rafal06

    Жыл бұрын

    The model with intel's 12gen cpu has USB 4, so that's why it's compatible with thunderbolt

  • @bardofhighrenown
    @bardofhighrenown2 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate your more level-headed review compared to others I've seen. The amount of unrestrained hype and gushing was starting to make me really nervous about this as a product and the trustworthiness of those reviews. I really appreciate your addressing some of the flaws of the device and giving a more balanced look.

  • @fakhrulsfi
    @fakhrulsfi3 жыл бұрын

    A laptop review more than 10 minutes? Very unlikely for Dave.

  • @lip5729

    @lip5729

    3 жыл бұрын

    More than 15 😅

  • @AxxLAfriku

    @AxxLAfriku

    3 жыл бұрын

    I am the cool kid from Germany making videos for the USA and the rest of the world. I will make your day so don't say nay to me today, dear fa

  • @grod5998

    @grod5998

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@AxxLAfriku rhyming "day" with "today" bruh

  • @calvinbunker8237

    @calvinbunker8237

    3 жыл бұрын

    Unique review for a unique device.

  • @adibafiq6945

    @adibafiq6945

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@AxxLAfriku "cringe"

  • @pranab091
    @pranab0913 жыл бұрын

    This is just amazing. The amount of care and engineering they put to build this product is fantastic. I can see to buy something like this use one as long as possible, easily mod it in the way I want. This is type of upgradability is mind-blowing. This can go a long way.

  • @FlyboyHelosim

    @FlyboyHelosim

    2 жыл бұрын

    For a consumer-grade laptop this might be mind-blowing, but modular laptops already exist and have done for decades.

  • @universallyepicnarwhal9102

    @universallyepicnarwhal9102

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@FlyboyHelosim not at this level. This one is not chonk and is actually viable for the mainstream.

  • @shaun7163
    @shaun71632 жыл бұрын

    This would make an amazing learning tool. A "my first laptop upgrade". Even if it just helps people think of computers as collections of parts rather than a discreet unit that works / doesn't work would be a win.

  • @jabezhane
    @jabezhane2 жыл бұрын

    The thing folks forget...it's the first attempt and its basically 90% there! I got mine last week and I love it. Seemed so odd being told to take your new laptop apart within 5 minutes of unpacking it...

  • @tanmay______
    @tanmay______3 жыл бұрын

    I wish we lived in a world where this was a standard rather than the exception

  • @vedaryan334

    @vedaryan334

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think for enthusiast features like modularity and privacy in a mainstream market like smartphone or laptops, to become , well, mainstream, is to one up competition in some way , other than the modularity or privacy. Those are becoming less and less viable as a selling point alone for the mainstream. But if the product is better overall, than that feature becomes much viable

  • @abubakrakram6208

    @abubakrakram6208

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@vedaryan334 That’s the problem: the product is worse, not better. Intel’s Tiger Lake CPUs can use 4200 MHz low power ram, but if you want to use socketed ram, you lose the battery benefits and are capped at 3200 MHz. It’s not a big deal, but like you said, if someone doesn’t care about modularity, they probably won’t buy it.

  • @tcc5750

    @tcc5750

    3 жыл бұрын

    Agreed, then maybe incest porn would have a more mainstream appeal….for a friend of mine.

  • @snow2460

    @snow2460

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@abubakrakram6208 and like dave said, 99% of people buying a laptop doesnt care about stuff like this, you ask most people what cpu they have in their laptop they wont have any idea, like even with apples m1, there are tons of people who have an m1 device doesnt even know what an m1 chip is

  • @abubakrakram6208

    @abubakrakram6208

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@snow2460 Those same people will never open their laptop, no matter how modular it is inside.

  • @kidigus
    @kidigus3 жыл бұрын

    I love how tech is coming back around to the old ideas. This is a wonderful upgrade to the old PCMCIA ports we used to have. Give the end user options that they can easily implement and you will make a lot of people happy. I do think that most people will still opt to have companies tell them what to want, though. I really hope this catches on... again.

  • @dijikstra8

    @dijikstra8

    2 жыл бұрын

    Exactly, a lot of people did use the PCMCIA slots, these are even easier, I don't think this is just a concept for tech savvy computer geeks, upgrading the internals sure, but anyone can swap out a port and I think we all at one point or another have to carry dongles for various compatibility reasons. With this you could just plug in the ports you regularly need and change it if something changes, like a new projector at work that needs another port type, I can see that being attractive to a lot of people.

  • @kidigus

    @kidigus

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dijikstra8 Absolutely. For me, I look at port selection first when getting a new laptop. If Framework gets this right, it could change the industry.

  • @catsmack8690

    @catsmack8690

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kidigus True, true. If it caught on, though. All for Framework and right to repair here, but there have been valid worries mentioned in the comments for sure.

  • @UNSCPILOT

    @UNSCPILOT

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed, I want modular tech to be normal, planning to get a Pinephone Pro once their available, and probably a framework laptop later on especially if they make AMD version!

  • @AcidiFy574

    @AcidiFy574

    2 жыл бұрын

    They won't win

  • @JediAndrey
    @JediAndrey2 жыл бұрын

    I'm absolutely certain my next laptop will be from these guys. Will wait for them to add more keyboard layouts and maybe more options with the expansion cards and an AMD CPU

  • @wyrw
    @wyrw3 жыл бұрын

    I saw Linus talking about this and I'm very interested, especially if they start having Ryzen options

  • @RandomPlaceHolderName

    @RandomPlaceHolderName

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sadly, no plans for that yet. $700 for 4c/8t is steep af.

  • @GeoStreber

    @GeoStreber

    2 жыл бұрын

    idk man, for a laptop, those upcoming 2+8 Alder Lake chips might be the better deal than Ryzen

  • @SaiprakashReddy

    @SaiprakashReddy

    2 жыл бұрын

    He invested like a quarter million into the framework company

  • @six8810

    @six8810

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@GeoStreber no... without dedicated GPU option, ryzen bringing their good IGP is the best deal

  • @GeoStreber

    @GeoStreber

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@six8810 Have you seen the benchmarks for the 96 CU Xe iGPUs? They're not bad.

  • @mini9503
    @mini95033 жыл бұрын

    They need to add more features that can only be achieved with the modularity. I don't know what exactly but they need to sell modularity as a unique and interesting concept to make this work. Hot-swappable ports are nice but lots of ultrabooks in this weight class already come with a variety of ports so that won't enough.

  • @henninghoefer

    @henninghoefer

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think the customizable ports are already that: No other manufacturer let's you choose whether you want an HDMI or a USB-A or another two USB-C ports. They might even get some attention in the enterprise this way.

  • @GeekProdigyGuy

    @GeekProdigyGuy

    3 жыл бұрын

    repairability should be a key selling point but it's unclear how effectively they can market that to your average Joe. however the objective fact is it's a huge selling point that you can replace practically every part of this laptop. that alone gives it vastly more longevity, as screens crack, drives fail, battery degrades, etc. and you aren't locked in to ridiculously expensive first-party repairs like with apple.

  • @VezWay007

    @VezWay007

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@henninghoefer true. But the only real benefit it has over dongles is that it's out of the way / integrated. I think most people would rather buy the "sexier" laptop and a dongle over this.

  • @abubakrakram6208

    @abubakrakram6208

    3 жыл бұрын

    Seeing comments like this is actually amazing. We don’t know why modularity is desirable, but we’re _so sure_ that it is that we’re trying to come up with ways to gaslight the average Joe into wanting it. How much stronger can the irony get?

  • @CaptainChrom

    @CaptainChrom

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@GeekProdigyGuy maybe they could create a 30 second ad comparing it to MacBooks and similar laptops, showing how rediculously expensive repairs are for them and then explain how the framework laptop can be easily serviced with just a few screws and how cheap the rates for it's repairs at independent repair shops are

  • @guidobaldessari
    @guidobaldessari3 жыл бұрын

    I was actually moved by this concept. I really want them to succeed.

  • @AwkwardYet

    @AwkwardYet

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was all for it until i found out it lacks a GPU for the price you could just buy a gaming laptop

  • @xuantruongle8707

    @xuantruongle8707

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@AwkwardYet a lot of "ultra book" don't have a discrete GPU, and charge far more than a mid-range gamming laptop. These kind of laptop focus on build quality and battery life for normal office work and light entertain, not gamming

  • @guidobaldessari

    @guidobaldessari

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@AwkwardYet You're absolutely right, but I think that all manufacturers should learn from them, replacing glue with magnets and screws and even the interchangeable connection ports are far better than Apple's dongle idiocy.

  • @gizmogeek47
    @gizmogeek472 жыл бұрын

    hope they progress and stay in the business. this kind of modularity is what we need for us consumers and enthusiasts. we should expect more from them like evolving these laptops into gaming and other productivity platforms so us can choose the best possible configurations and upgrade options. thank you dave for sharing this video.

  • @SimonM90
    @SimonM902 жыл бұрын

    IT admin departs must jump at this. I've worked at IT support in an University during my student years and we saw a lot (not to say A LOT) wrecked ports, where we had to buy an new one, had prfoessors waiting, and all the setup work (data transfer etc) only to replace a broken port... this is pure gold for customer service in a company. Just give them a new adapter and bam! they would be ready to go on the spot...

  • @darrorpsk6148
    @darrorpsk61483 жыл бұрын

    This + external gpu would literally be the dream. They need to make it happen! Also, can i just say your enthusiasm was just infectious in this video, absolutely loved it.

  • @TheMrawesomest

    @TheMrawesomest

    3 жыл бұрын

    I could see an eGPU in a case that fits underneath the back half of the laptop. It plugs in one of the back modules ports, and raises the back of the laptop. Cooling would be vented thru the back.

  • @mrsteelnutz

    @mrsteelnutz

    3 жыл бұрын

    Naah i would say his enthusiasm was way more extreme in the Optimus prime Video :D

  • @realtimestatic

    @realtimestatic

    3 жыл бұрын

    eGPUs already work i believe

  • @LeDrPsycho

    @LeDrPsycho

    3 жыл бұрын

    External gpu is as good as the screen. If the screen doesn't support good fps, then better gpu serves no purpose. But in productivity pov it's okay.

  • @abubakrakram6208

    @abubakrakram6208

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@LeDrPsycho I always have to remind people that 5 years ago, 60Hz screens were used for gaming and people were very happy with them.

  • @RageElixir
    @RageElixir3 жыл бұрын

    I feel like it’s not the hinge but because of how flimsy the screen is 😅

  • @the-algorithm-beaten1897

    @the-algorithm-beaten1897

    3 жыл бұрын

    Arent u that kids minecraft youtuber?

  • @andrewmtgx

    @andrewmtgx

    3 жыл бұрын

    hi ragelixir used to watch u 6 or 7 yrs ago haha

  • @Invictus-on2ie

    @Invictus-on2ie

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@the-algorithm-beaten1897 omg he is😂 I used to watch his collabs with Unspeakable

  • @Beaftw

    @Beaftw

    3 жыл бұрын

    Here before This Comment Blows up

  • @Beaftw

    @Beaftw

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Joe What's So Bad About it Tho? It Was Meant To Be Super thin And Light

  • @williamporter8463
    @williamporter84632 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant review. Comprehensive, thoughtful and balanced. Really good. Thanks.

  • @pablo.station
    @pablo.station2 жыл бұрын

    Love It! This has been a dream of mine for YEARS. Great review!

  • @michaelblight
    @michaelblight3 жыл бұрын

    The benefit of deciding (and changing!) which side the HDMI comes out is huge

  • @ashuroking007

    @ashuroking007

    3 жыл бұрын

    True that !

  • @ThePhooPhighters

    @ThePhooPhighters

    2 жыл бұрын

    what benifit does that have ? Am i missing something here ?

  • @user-lb8du4dl3o

    @user-lb8du4dl3o

    2 жыл бұрын

    life changing, from perspective of person who don't care about HMDI at all, cause i use usb c for everything!

  • @blayd_

    @blayd_

    2 жыл бұрын

    It’s USB-C too so you can choose what orientation as well!

  • @Simon-nx1sc

    @Simon-nx1sc

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ThePhooPhighters on my setup for example, there's no space at the right side of my laptop for cables, and all the other cables are at the left as well + they would be too short to go around

  • @kabiro2151
    @kabiro21513 жыл бұрын

    I believe they got the foundation right, they just need to sell exactly that now

  • @tsarpeterthegreat9709

    @tsarpeterthegreat9709

    3 жыл бұрын

    @BB Brothers Unboxing u dont need to spam links to get famous just work hard

  • @osc.s
    @osc.s2 жыл бұрын

    I love this channel, Dave is amazing and I can notice how much more he enojoys making his videos after he changed studio

  • @valshaped
    @valshaped2 жыл бұрын

    Can't wait to see screen and keyboard upgrades for this laptop--potentially community-made ones! And community-made ports as well.

  • @AaronLaye
    @AaronLaye3 жыл бұрын

    Love the split screen segments to show the internals.

  • @matttheking1655

    @matttheking1655

    3 жыл бұрын

    Was thinking the same thing....👌

  • @harbirsingh7266
    @harbirsingh72663 жыл бұрын

    They need to market it in a way that proves their product to be cheaper than the competitors down the line. If they launch a better version soon I'll buy it without thinking.

  • @SamoScopom

    @SamoScopom

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think they need to convince the enterprise market. If a company switched to this, then their IT techs could fix their laptops.

  • @OhSoTiredMan

    @OhSoTiredMan

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's alway about the marketing.

  • @RohithkannaDuraiswamy

    @RohithkannaDuraiswamy

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same. As soon as they have one with like bout 8 CPUs and a dGPU, I'm sold

  • @harbirsingh7266

    @harbirsingh7266

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@SamoScopom that is an awesome idea. Make Dell lose enterprise market share.

  • @Officer_Boat
    @Officer_Boat2 жыл бұрын

    Loved that camera work in the intro. Also, would definitely get one, but won't because not in the market right now. If I was, I love the concept.

  • @AlohaBiatch
    @AlohaBiatch2 жыл бұрын

    You talked about the thickness but not the weight. Weight wise it is very similar to those non-reparirable laptops with the same specs. Honestly weight is important, while thickness is not (unless it's a super thick gaming laptop) So I disagree that they made a signficant compromise by it being a bit thicker than competitors.

  • @ThorsShadow
    @ThorsShadow3 жыл бұрын

    Got this in my recommendations. As much shit as we give KZread / Google, but by the gods that algorithm is insane. It obviously knows I'm into tech. That's easy. But at this point I am convinced that thing also knows I'm into channel run by people with an incredibly calming voice and an honest heart and way of presenting themselves. Totally subbed, man. Keep doing what you're doing.

  • @jonathansaxton9954

    @jonathansaxton9954

    2 жыл бұрын

    I purged my subscription list a few days ago; got rid of all of the channels I don't watch repeatedly. This channel made the cut over another channel, that does tech reviews, because of Dave's demeanor. I only watch his vids like once or twice every couple of months but yea, he's got the right energy.

  • @Htiy

    @Htiy

    2 жыл бұрын

    The KZread algorithm is legit. Crazy how things that id be super excited to see i see basically immediately, stuff that im only somewhat interested takes time

  • @rtsa4633
    @rtsa46333 жыл бұрын

    This is the most interesting laptop I've ever seen. I've always thought about this concept but to see it in full force is something special.

  • @FlyboyHelosim

    @FlyboyHelosim

    2 жыл бұрын

    There's far more interesting laptops than this.

  • @rtsa4633

    @rtsa4633

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@FlyboyHelosim I really couldn't care less about any other laptop when this is in the picture. What this strives to achieve is way more interesting to me. Modularity appeals to me.

  • @FlyboyHelosim

    @FlyboyHelosim

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rtsa4633 So you decided to reply with a negative tone without considering what I was even talking about. I, too, was referring to other, equally modular laptops that have been around for years from established companies and that are far better constructed than this one.

  • @sugamtyagi9144
    @sugamtyagi91442 жыл бұрын

    This is an excellent video Dave. Really really loved it.

  • @keaknowzz8416
    @keaknowzz84162 жыл бұрын

    i love your clean background/set up dave

  • @JohnnyChiuchiolo
    @JohnnyChiuchiolo3 жыл бұрын

    As soon as I saw this laptop I've got the same thought, I always wanted a modular gaming laptop, the fact that you could replace primary components it could be a game changer for sure, let's hope the best for Framework ✌🏻

  • @paulnguyen215

    @paulnguyen215

    2 жыл бұрын

    Can you comfortably play games with this laptop?

  • @JohnnyChiuchiolo

    @JohnnyChiuchiolo

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@paulnguyen215 You can do light gaming, it doesn't have a discrete GPU, so like CSGO, Valorant, LoL and other light games ;)

  • @davidyang3068

    @davidyang3068

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@JohnnyChiuchiolo You can actually play AAA titles with high end gaming laptops. My 3 year old work laptop can run those games....

  • @JohnnyChiuchiolo

    @JohnnyChiuchiolo

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@davidyang3068 Yes actually I meant you can play smoothly with light gaming, I have a laptop with the exact specs and titles like BF5 for example are not that smooth, but yes they mostly run ;)

  • @maevesmith948

    @maevesmith948

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think people are more intetested in Framework Launching a gamer version of this laptop, not saying this one is for gaming.

  • @AlexDenton0451
    @AlexDenton04513 жыл бұрын

    Ngl I think everyone likes the Framework laptop, it’s hard to not like something that’s designed to be long lasting and repairable.

  • @abubakrakram6208

    @abubakrakram6208

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, but everyone’s not buying it. Which isn’t a great sign for their future.

  • @franciscofarias6385

    @franciscofarias6385

    3 жыл бұрын

    This is a surprisingly niche opinion. Most people prefer it thin and with a bitten apple on it

  • @abubakrakram6208

    @abubakrakram6208

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@franciscofarias6385 This, but unironically.

  • @Y.M...

    @Y.M...

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm all for right to repair and sustainability and I'm not nearly naive enough to assume this company will last the lifetime of one of their devices. Let that sink in.

  • @narasimha3679

    @narasimha3679

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey Anthony F*****, how're covid cases going

  • @killaclownz911
    @killaclownz9112 жыл бұрын

    When Dave gets excited by a new device, I do too. Great video.

  • @toastom
    @toastom2 жыл бұрын

    I've never really thought about upgrading my current laptop or really opening it up at all, but the swappable USB ports are an instant win from me. In a couple years when my current laptop dies or becomes old I'll definitely look for the Framework laptop again. I've also heard it's built for complete Linux compatibility!

  • @daimhafizy
    @daimhafizy3 жыл бұрын

    I'd love to see this company successful. Great review Dave.

  • @roua.
    @roua.3 жыл бұрын

    I think this will do very well in a corporate environment, where everyone in the company has a laptop and the IT department can take care of the swaping of components as they age/break.

  • @IrenHawx

    @IrenHawx

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly what I was thinking. If they can guarantee support and parts for the laptop long-term, it should work out for them.

  • @victorn6065
    @victorn60652 жыл бұрын

    This kind of amazing unbiased insight is what I enjoy most about this change

  • @noahbraasch7854
    @noahbraasch7854 Жыл бұрын

    Just ordered mine. I cant wait!

  • @atherasia
    @atherasia3 жыл бұрын

    Glad a lot of people are starting to recognize Framework and their repairable laptops, and the whole Right to Repair stuff.

  • @teabreakbeats
    @teabreakbeats3 жыл бұрын

    This is amazing - I remember my old thinkpad that you could swap everything out on.. it lasted years because I would just swap out the battery when it got old.

  • @ajemajh

    @ajemajh

    2 жыл бұрын

    my g series lenovo is the same!, and i love that i can pull out the battery easily so i can use it while charging without breaking the battery

  • @bonob0123

    @bonob0123

    2 жыл бұрын

    t450 i swapped in cpu, added ssd and got many more years out of it

  • @williamnale7835

    @williamnale7835

    2 жыл бұрын

    I used a co Thinkpad awhile back that fell about 4ft to a hard computer floor and was 100% ok after I snapped the optical drive back in...No cracked screen or case or broken anything..

  • @coscorrodrift
    @coscorrodrift2 жыл бұрын

    Love the final thought, that is something that would excite me if it were to happen. I'm a desktop kinda guy but I also love travel, and having a main machine that's upgradable that you can take on your travels/adventures, with the digital nomad ecosystem growing and growing, telework/wfh + postcovid vibes kinda make me think there's room for this. Who knows tho, hope they've done their numbers

  • @ale.r26
    @ale.r262 жыл бұрын

    I would love see a 15-16 inch and 6-cores of this version. So amazing this laptop. I hope this concept of repair would stick into the consurmers mind. Difficult.

  • @ChrisTian-sd5yq

    @ChrisTian-sd5yq

    Жыл бұрын

    guess what

  • @technologicalelite8076

    @technologicalelite8076

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@ChrisTian-sd5yq😮

  • @GlenMerlin
    @GlenMerlin3 жыл бұрын

    They announced they'll be doing AMD and Arm editions in the future if this model does well

  • @PixelShade
    @PixelShade3 жыл бұрын

    I honestly wished that repairability was a requirement that no company could bypass. And also that laptops underwent some kind of standard for socketed components. I mean honestly how can we justify 1-2mm for the excess e-waste- and production normal business tactics cost.

  • @MrEmiriv

    @MrEmiriv

    2 жыл бұрын

    we the consumers should be enforcing that, have media report on the internals of devices (iFixit for ex), and choose according to our preferences, but that requires more work on our part

  • @jacobschweiger5897

    @jacobschweiger5897

    2 жыл бұрын

    “If I don’t like a product nobody should be allowed to make it” - this guy

  • @PixelShade

    @PixelShade

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MrEmiriv The biggest issue in my opinion is that leaving responsibility solely on the consumer doesn't really work in reality. The primary interest in our current economic system is to exploit consumer patterns and behavior. Generally consumers are not aware of the global effects of their consumption, and companies do whatever they can to earn money on their consumption. Nobody questions why their phones are made completely out of glass. or why they can't upgrade memory, storage or batteries in their laptops. There is a tiny enthusiast community that care about this stuff, however the general masses don't reflect on this and will continue to mindlessly consume until there is a enforced standard in place.

  • @PixelShade

    @PixelShade

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jacobschweiger5897 it's not a matter of not liking a product. It's a matter of creating a global market built on standards that are more ethical towards our world, and consumers.

  • @jacobschweiger5897

    @jacobschweiger5897

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@PixelShade how it it ethical to tell consumers they’re not allowed to buy electronics that aren’t reparable? Repair ability comes at a cost and maybe that cost is worth it to you but should people get a choice?

  • @N0Xa880iUL
    @N0Xa880iUL Жыл бұрын

    Visionary video. The company seems to have taken a lot of inspiration from this.

  • @longhairedphreak
    @longhairedphreak2 жыл бұрын

    Great video. I don't remember the last time I saw a review video that seemed so candid and semi-unscripted. Keep up the awesome content! :D

  • @jeremyli9212
    @jeremyli92123 жыл бұрын

    Honestly one of your best videos. Your passion for this topic really shines through and you've got me convinced.

  • @hubofeverything
    @hubofeverything3 жыл бұрын

    Framework also provides schematics for the laptop, making third party repairs easier. So in theory, norms could just go to any repair shop and get their laptop fixed.

  • @DigitalGenki
    @DigitalGenki2 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video. Thank you for your thoughts

  • @spareroomtech
    @spareroomtech2 жыл бұрын

    I really love the concept of the Framework laptop. I hope the company succeeds!

  • @Violant3
    @Violant33 жыл бұрын

    this is an amazing project, i really hope they continue with this and serve as example for other companies!

  • @JogieGlenMait16
    @JogieGlenMait163 жыл бұрын

    As a laptop repair aficionado, this is amazing to me.

  • @mashinistov
    @mashinistov2 жыл бұрын

    Dave shows monkeytype at 10:35 and this service is absolutely awesome. Thanks!

  • @saifsagri599
    @saifsagri5992 жыл бұрын

    Loved the review Dave.You are so damn honest and minimalist about the stuff that you review.Love from India🇮🇳

  • @ryanramadhan7133
    @ryanramadhan71333 жыл бұрын

    Fun fact : If dave makes a video more than 10 minutes then he is for sure love the products reviewed

  • @jh5401
    @jh54013 жыл бұрын

    Frankly, I don't care about thinness at all. I don't know anyone who does. I mean, I don't want a brick for a PC, but I have absolutely no use for thinness in a laptop.

  • @nit-Inundate

    @nit-Inundate

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah never found thickness to be a selling point. I mean if they'd argue it will weigh more, inside a backpack, I'd still feel the weight no matter how thin they make laptops. Only thing I can see is wrist ergonomics when typing.

  • @V3LOXy

    @V3LOXy

    2 жыл бұрын

    It always annoyed me companies, namely Apple, use the thickness of a laptop as a selling point. Shaving off a few millimeters until there's no more room for common ports.

  • @RandomPlaceHolderName

    @RandomPlaceHolderName

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed. Better cooling, noise levels, battery life and memory/storage options are ALWAYS preferable.

  • @uscjake868

    @uscjake868

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think the target audience for the computer are people who enjoy thin laptops, but want them to last more than 1 or 2 years. That fits me, and it also fits college students that want one computer to last 4 to 6 years. Busted key on the keyboard? Good luck fixing it on your own with glued down components. I have replaced numerous laptops for busted keyboards and charging ports. It would have been great to simply replace the keyboard without breaking off tabs and connectors.

  • @8StarStudio

    @8StarStudio

    2 жыл бұрын

    The laptops on the table in this video are all thin. That hair, tiny little sliver of thickness in exchange for the ability to upgrade it is amazing. Thinking that fraction of a hair makes any difference is insanity.

  • @ItsMariquel
    @ItsMariquel2 жыл бұрын

    I will support this! I'm really hoping Framework becomes available in the Philippines.

  • @himansumaurya2883
    @himansumaurya28832 жыл бұрын

    wow, lovely concept pre-order done😲

  • @olmonator
    @olmonator3 жыл бұрын

    When he was talking about the bad screen, I really thought he would just put in a new real quick :D

  • @user-bp8yg3ko1r
    @user-bp8yg3ko1r3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for covering this brilliant product!

  • @bighairyspiders
    @bighairyspiders2 жыл бұрын

    I love tinkering with tech and modular stuff so this speaks to me i plan on getting one asap for my music production

  • @ralphmcmahan2139
    @ralphmcmahan21392 жыл бұрын

    Most impressed with his glue machine sound effect. It had a gloopiness I enjoyed.

  • @kidpoker1021
    @kidpoker10213 жыл бұрын

    There really isn't much of a conversation to be had when it comes to big retailers vs what this framwork laptop is attempting to do. Big retailers/manufacturers wants to say we tried, but failed, so buy new shit every year so that we can make more profit on top of further waist.

  • @bradyvelvet9432
    @bradyvelvet94323 жыл бұрын

    Omg! The satisfying clicks of snapping those modular ports in! 💕😀💕

  • @VivekPatel-ze6jy
    @VivekPatel-ze6jy Жыл бұрын

    Coming back to this video in 2023, it's cool how many if your build quality complsints have been resolved with new parts - stiffer hinges, a more ridgid back panel are available on the websute now

  • @J2digital
    @J2digital2 жыл бұрын

    This is the future I wanted. I'll do my best to make this my next laptop to support future ventures.

  • @neekopat
    @neekopat3 жыл бұрын

    "They give a shit" I felt that. I really hate when companies create products for the sole purpose of making profit. Whether that be planned obsolescence or just poor decisions, it really annoys me when they make these anti-consumer devices that will just end up in a landfill 10 months later.

  • @izzattaz6290

    @izzattaz6290

    3 жыл бұрын

    The company is a pure profit. How do they do it? Reduce its lifecycle.

  • @Superknullisch

    @Superknullisch

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hear, hear! 👌

  • @vincentirving

    @vincentirving

    3 жыл бұрын

    At least if one die they have to bankrupt, they die as a hero.

  • @ztech-consulting
    @ztech-consulting3 жыл бұрын

    I'm saving up for this laptop. I am super stoked about Framework and where they go in the future.

  • @jeffskent
    @jeffskent Жыл бұрын

    Good video and I almost always love your videos. I like the idea of a Framework and would consider buying one, but I went with a LG Gram 16 and love that machine. Still I won't even try to open the bottom to add an additional 1 TB M.2 drive. I use external drives which still work well if a little slower. Tradeoffs galore.

  • @JustinTunley
    @JustinTunley2 жыл бұрын

    Love the concept, think that the nearest you can currently get is one of the more serviceable Thinkpads, although ultimately you're still stuck with the same CPU.

  • @jdsmedley
    @jdsmedley3 жыл бұрын

    I'd really like to see something akin to the ATX standard for laptops: case, screen, GPU, CPU etc.

  • @0M9H4X_Neckbeard

    @0M9H4X_Neckbeard

    2 жыл бұрын

    There is a laptop GPU standard, it's called MXM. It's not extremely common but it is still around.

  • @Chimera07
    @Chimera073 жыл бұрын

    everybody here is the one to whom our family and friends come for tech advice, we could make this concept go main stream

  • @lewisprice2743

    @lewisprice2743

    3 жыл бұрын

    Issue is I just couldn’t recommend it to someone, there are better options

  • @Chimera07

    @Chimera07

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lewisprice2743 i didn't mean this particular laptop, but the concept of it. But yes if on a budget then there are definitely better products

  • @abubakrakram6208

    @abubakrakram6208

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’m with Lewis. I cannot tell a family member that they’d appreciate the modularity more than a system that has LP ram and better battery life. That would be a lie.

  • @GeekProdigyGuy

    @GeekProdigyGuy

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lewisprice2743 IMO if somebody is going to spend ~$850 on a laptop (going by Dave's estimate of 15% premium over competition) then spending $1000 on this instead is likely to save them well over $150 in the long run when some parts inevitably fail. I would definitely recommend it if there are no other deal breakers (which I would understand, e.g. touchscreen/2-in-1, gaming)

  • @lewisprice2743

    @lewisprice2743

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@GeekProdigyGuy stuff like display, size, build quality, modularity will always have these issues, unless I think they’ll get an obvious advantage from the modularity, it’s a struggle to recommend it

  • @OfficialMeccaXP
    @OfficialMeccaXP2 жыл бұрын

    I absolutely LOVE the enthusiasm about this concept. I can smell it. You give a shit, Dave, and that's why I keep coming back.

  • @wayward-saint
    @wayward-saint2 жыл бұрын

    I love it. Next time I upgrade I’m getting it. I especially want to get it for my kids, give them the DIY upgrade spirit.

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