Fun fact, in one of Kohaku’s supers in older renditions of Melty and MBAACC, you can see Shiki run across the screen lookin all goofy.

@Drzuul

Жыл бұрын

Wow I’ve never heard of that! Do you know which super it was? I have almost every version of melty I’d like to see for myself.

@noahsherlock2685

11 ай бұрын

source?

@Wally_West

8 ай бұрын

Which one?

I have been wanting him as a playable character since I finished Tsukihime honestly so this video was welcome. Also, I dunno if you have read Kagetsu Tohya at all, but there is an unlockable scene in the game that gives you a glimpse of SHIKI with no inversion or Roa and it is honestly heartbreaking. It really shows just how tragic the whole situation really was.

@Drzuul

Жыл бұрын

That’s actually one of my favorite scenes from kagetsu Tohya. The coffee scene from the Kohaku route is also a favorite and I think that’s what won me over on him. That side of the SHIKI situation is interesting and it always rubbed me the wrong way how Akiha treats SHIKI even though he’s suffered just as much if not more than Shiki But I guess she never really forgave her brother for killing Shiki. I truly hope the other part of the remake gives SHIKI more time to shine and they incorporate some ideas from the manga and maybe even expand upon it.

@saishuumusou

Жыл бұрын

@@Drzuul I can honestly agree on all of that, the poor kid basically just never even had a chance for reasons out of his control. Honestly he and a lot of other Type Moon villains to me strike a really interesting balance where I can't really respect their actions, but I weirdly respect or at least understand the motivation. Like I sort of weirdly respect Roa and his pursuit of immortality, not as much respect for him making Ciel murder-rape a whole French village. Or with Kohaku, where her actions can feel frustrating and hard to defend, but at the same time I find it hard to truly blame her because I could not have turned out any better in her situation. Honestly the best example of that is Kirei in F/SN for me because he is literally pure evil, but at the same time I oddly respect his introspective journey and quest for self discovery and understanding of himself. He manages to make someone that by all regards I shouldn't like into one of my favorite villains for that alone.

@Drzuul

Жыл бұрын

The villains are always a highlight. Nero Chaos for example, in the story, he really just serves as an obstacle for the characters to overcome, and to further develop the mystic eyes of death perception. But his entire concept from his design, to his skill set, motivations and backstory it’s all very interesting. Despite the fact he’s only around for two chapters. Type moon is just really good at having antagonists that aren’t just evil but have a place in the world and reasoning for why they do what they do. Which is why I look forward to red Garden because I hope it expands on SHIKI and the far side roots in general, which, in my opinion definitely feel half baked at least compared to the arc route. I’m pretty sure I read somewhere that the Kohaku route was added due to fan reception at the time and they wrote it in an extremely short time. However, they fixed the problem pretty fast because in fate I feel like every route is well thought out and fully realized.

I'll keep holding the Copium that he'll come to Melty blood sometime eventually

@Drzuul

Жыл бұрын

Nero and SHIKI will get into lumina in the same update and before Sion mark my words

actually, carmine IS a scrapped character moveset for shiki and was confirmed by one of the french bread devs in the artbook

@Drzuul

Жыл бұрын

I was iffy on this because I couldn’t find a direct source in English so I kept it a speculation in the video but I did find scans of some of the undernight art books, so I’ll see if I can find anything out and 100% confirm it

@justmagma7722

Жыл бұрын

@@Drzuul i may be missinforming but i think it wasn't in the undernight artbook, it was a long time ago since i saw it

@Drzuul

Жыл бұрын

I don’t think that you’re wrong because I’ve heard the same exact thing before. I just don’t know where but the under night art book is probably the best place to start. One of the problems with being a English Type Moon fan is you have to get a lot of stuff secondhand.

@justmagma7722

Жыл бұрын

Maybe ur right about that, it would be interesting to se about it

He'd have the highest guts and highest health in the game, maybe slightly lower than Arcueid because his entire schtick is that he's really hard to kill since he can just force his body to "Not take damage" in areas which are in danger(?). Probably be a setplay, too..

@Drzuul

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I’d see him as a set play character. Like Akiha in lumina but the set play cranked to 11.

SHIKI has always been my top 1 favorite Tsukihime character, it's honestly depressing how forgotten he is despite his role in the story and him being part of the more kino routes. I hope the release of Red Garden makes French Bread finally add SHIKI in the game and hopefully he uses Carmine's moveset or a newer moveset but still retains being a zoner anyways and that make him actually hard to kill unlike Carmine who's an actual glass cannon

@Drzuul

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I definitely see him as an inverse carmine gameplay wise. It’d be wild if he had kouma super armor or a review mechanic or even a life steal some many interesting things you can do with his skill set. I’ve got high hopes for his role in red garden will give him the spotlight he deserves

SHIKI would be so sick to have in MB. I think his storyline would be unique and seeing him bond with Shiki like in KT would be really sweet.

@Drzuul

Жыл бұрын

I hope the remake does him justice

Sorry but that voice sounds stitched together and it cracks me up. Great video.

@Drzuul

11 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching. I can confirm this is my real voice, no AI.

When I got to SHIKI in Akiha's route, I straight away thought of Carmine and Jeddah lol. At least we got Roa but yeah I was surprised SHIKI wasn't in considering Melty is the fighting game where everybody has an Evil Ryu variant.

@Drzuul

Жыл бұрын

I really do chalk it up to the fact that the female characters are more popular, and he’s not.

@GenghisConnThr333

Жыл бұрын

@@Drzuul Makes sense I guess we needed room for Mech Hisui & Neco Arc. Took them until the final revision to add Roa after all.

@Drzuul

Жыл бұрын

No you misunderstand we need room for important characters like school uniform Akiha, a vital character from the “Akiha route” with an entirely new sprite. without three Akiha in the game can you really say you truly appreciate her?

@GenghisConnThr333

Жыл бұрын

@@Drzuul Akiha's honestly by far my least favourite of the main girls (including Sacchin) so I guess I can't lol

@Drzuul

Жыл бұрын

I feel the same way, she’s boring imo

Alright. Not here to brag or anything, but i would like to tell you all/all SHIKI fans that i am as we speak, working on an MBAACC "replacing" Ryougi with SHIKI. The reason i put it in parentheses is because SHIKI *won't* have a unique moveset, at least, not until quite a while. Since i'm not experienced in programming to really make that myself. I could ask for help but so far, i just want to focus on the more aesthetic side of the mod. All i wish to accomplish FOR NOW is to make it *feel* like you're playing a different character. But it's really just a Ryougi skin with stupidly amount of effort put into it. What's be done so far are: -CRESCENT Battle voice lines -Slash visual effects -Character select visuals -Supers/Arc Drives/Last Arc visuals -Round start voice lines -HP Portraits (Left and Right) -Battle load portraits -Arcade mode mugshots -Win portraits What's left is a LOT: -Half and Full Moon Battle voice lines -Arcade mode story (YES. I'M *THAT* AMBITIOUS OVER THIS MOD.) -Arcade mode voice lines -Some round end voice lines -Win Quotes -Unique palette list -Unique interactions (completely clueless about where/how to do that) -Custom dialogues -MAYBE some small sprite changes ? Not sure about that part as of now If anyone wishes to know more and/or see the WIP in action, i recommend you to check the modding channels of the Melty Blood Discord and Melty Blood Community server. I may make YT Videos about it but i'll think about it a little more. If you have any tips regarding this mod, hesitate not to DM me through Discord. So yes, dunno if that can be enough for you SHIKI chads to smile at least a little. If you got any questions, of course you can ask away.

@Drzuul

8 ай бұрын

That sounds very ambitious and you sound very passionate. It might be a good idea to build things in MUGEN first as there are a lot of resources for making characters for that game and it might be easier to prototype in that. I wish you good luck fellow SHIKI fan.

@HighStars4

8 ай бұрын

@@Drzuul Thanks. I'm not enough into MUGEN to really try experimenting in there instead of going head-on to MBAACC directly but maybe i'll try if it's not too much for my smol brain to handle lol. Besides i'm one of those people that want to get things done before starting another thing (even though uh-oh, many stuff left unfinished--) knowing i did much that already satisfies me, especially when i'm given how to do what (so stuff like Palmod for character palettes or MBCC Stage Converter). It feels comfier for me as of now. But i may try MUGEN someday, yes.

shicky

@Drzuul

Жыл бұрын

Sicky Toeknow

Fun Fact: On Type Moon's old website, they made commmand list for almost every character in Tsukihime and its expansions, with even descriptions for each special move. And among those, there was a move list for the real Shiki Tohno, and even for the FAKE Shiki Tohno (long story). At the time, many fans (including myself), thought this was a sign that all of those characters were being made for Melty Blood. Of course, those command lists was just for funsies... BTW: Carmine was actually inspired by Freeman from the popular Garou: Mark of the Wolves, move set, character design and all.

@Drzuul

Ай бұрын

Now that you mention it they are pretty similar. I hope freeman comes back for the new fatal fury. You also reminded me of the fake Shiki, there are too many Shiki’s in Type-Moon.

The fact that SHIKI lost a MB spot to Two Akihas and robot Hisui is sad, I swear man's is the most doomed character in this whole franchise. Ironic considering it could've probably netted the man some popularity.

@Drzuul

10 ай бұрын

100% there are actually 3 akihas if you count vermillion and they’d probably add a 4th too. Not only is he replaced by Shiki in the story but I’d argue Nanaya eclipses him in popularity too which is very ironic.

I wanted SHIKI for the longest time in Melty Blood, I am glad he is getting some attention in this video.

@Drzuul

Жыл бұрын

I'm a proud member of the SHIKI Tohno community. Accept no imposters

TYPE MOON JUNE BABYYY

@Drzuul

Жыл бұрын

Can’t stop Type Moon June baby

I still pray for him to be the next lumina fighter 😭

@Drzuul

6 күн бұрын

He has a better chance than Nero chaos at this point 😭

Alice Kuonji for MBTL please.

@Drzuul

11 ай бұрын

I’ll see what I can do, no promises.