This is one of my favorite talks of all time. Thank you , Dr. Hahn.

@Lerian_V

11 ай бұрын

I've listened to it more than ten times in the last few years, no kidding.

@cominghomenetwork

5 күн бұрын

@@Lerian_V Thank you both for the kind comments!

Seven years later, this is still my favourite talk of all time.

Thanks be to God, that I could live in this time where Catholicism's intellectual arm is beginning to reveal its strength once again, and shows that Christ is still King.

@Nightingale2023

4 ай бұрын

Amen!!!!!!

Can we have like 200,000,000 more people just like Dr Scott Hahn?

What a defence of the need for the papacy and the utter rebellion that would ensue without it

Thanks, Scott. I saw you at St. Mary's on the Hill in Augusta about 15 years ago. It didn't sink in. It took a vision of Mary in the Andes to make me look again. Southern Baptist "for life," now Catholic. Thank you.

@mariamalhotra8228

6 жыл бұрын

Cliff Scott Wow, tell us more!

@cliffscott4297

6 жыл бұрын

I'll try the short version, Maria. I was a "born again" (July 19, 1992) Christian who was all about Christ Jesus. I was becoming very concerned though with both the attacks on the Catholic Church and what I was seeing inside the walls of Protestantism. I went to a Baptist College in S.C., and quickly learned there were red flags there.....who could shout the loudest "AMEN" was the most spiritual...lol. They also ID'd The Catholic Church as the Great Whore of Babylon, used single verses as proof texts, and cited people like Pablo Escobar (Medellin Cartel) and Joeseph Stalin as great Catholics. Seeing the devolution of Protestantism, I set out on a journey of history, true history, and not the biased books I had been reading. As a music writer, the Lord had me write a song called "Hail Mary," and wouldn't even let me call it "The Assumption" so as not to offend any Protestants. I'm 5 years married to a Colombian lady, and in Dec 2016 I was up early and as usual practicing my music. I was singing "Hail Mary," and got through all the verses to the bridge, and I could see her appearing in a cloud from over the Andes Mountains. This Ga. Boy was biting his lip and slapping his face to make sure it was not a hallucination, and I was also thinking "Satan can transform himself into an angel of light." First problem....Mary is not an Angel. For 20 minutes I stood there with tears streaming down my face as she communicated without speaking. The cloud I would estimate at 2 miles away. She told me she was the Mother of Christ, the Mother of the Church, and my Mother. Most importantly (to me), she told me she would never let me down. I was abused sexually as a child, and carried the pain for 58 years. Then I could see a stream coming from her, and I'm thinking "It's about to get real." It was a stream of love that entered into my soul that is beyond any love I could ever describe. It's about 7:30am as she fades away, and I go back, obviously covered in tears, to attempt to tell my wife. She takes me to her mother (hosting us and very devout), and translated what I saw. She was not surprised! That really blew my mind. I forgot to tell you that when my mother was not keeping an eye on me at two I drank some of the neighbors lighter fluid and inhaled it into both lungs severely burning them. I was not supposed to live according to doctors. For 10 days, I lay in an oxygen tent packed in ice, and the nuns got permission from my fringe Protestant parents to pray. They stayed by my bed 24/7, but I could remember a lady in solid white. Mary revealed 55 years later that it was her. She was wit me then, and said she would be with me when I took my last breath. My father was serving in the FBI and the name of that hospital was St. Mary's in Evansville, Indiana. I went back and read Scott Hahn, Steven Ray, and the Early Church Fathers. There was no doubt last July that the original Church was Catholic, even according to Ignatius, Bishop of Antioch (107AD). After crying for 4 hours, I sent an email to Steve Ray and he was kind enough to write me back not to worry that yes, I would lose friends, but gain a family. Having a small Catholic Church here, the father loaned me the Boston Catechism and I was brought in two weeks later. It's been almost a year, I've joined the Knights of Columbus and advanced to 3rd degree, and I've had some awesome opportunities with them. The most important thing to me was receiving Jesus physically in the Holy Eucharist (John 6:53-68). Yes, Catholics need to study their Bibles and even Priests need to do a little better, but that cannot change true history of Matthew 16:18 and how Christ was named Simon, "Peter" or "Kepha" in Aramaic. They don't teach that to Protestants. He also gave him the Keys to Heaven which would be passed down. One has to be blind not to see it.....and I was blind. I found out that I, being armed with an AR-15 and other guns at home, would have to be willing to die not just to myself, but willing to die for the Fullness of the Faith. I try to share the truth with old friends, but they are as stuck as I was. Thank you for asking, Maria, and sorry I just now saw it.

@cliffscott4297

5 жыл бұрын

I write and sing Christian music, but felt led to write a song about Mary. I really did not want to being Southern Baptist, but did it anyway. I wanted to name it the "Annunciation," but I had to name it, "Hail Mary." I was practicing it while in South America when she suddenly appeared in the clouds coming over the Andes in Medellin, Colombia. I kept biting my lip and slapping myself to make sure I wasn't hallucinating. She didn't have to speak verbally, but I could hear what she was saying. She told she was, in fact, the Mother of JesusChrist, The Mother of The Church, and my Mother and would never let me down (my own did). Then revealed to me 55 years ago when in Indiana in a hospital called St. Mary's where I was taken and was dying from drinking charcoal lighter fluid and gasping into my lungs. I was packed ice in an oxygen tent, and doctors were trying to prepare my parents for my demise. My parents were Protestants in name only, but gave the Nuns permission to pray the Rosary at my bed 24/7. They were in dark robes, but the one who appeared in White was the Holy Mother. She showed me she was there with me, and that she would be with me when I took my final breath. Then she sent what looked like a slow moving beam of light that I knew was coming straight me. It was Pure Love like I had never felt. Then she faded away. I was crying the whole time (20 mins) as part of it was just her looking at me with Love. I went back and told my Colombian wife because she could see I was emotional, then we told her Mother who can't speak English. It was like she wasn't surprised at all, but glad. I went back to studying history unbiased, and converted August 2017.

@serialcarpens290

4 жыл бұрын

Cliff Scott Cliff, great story! I live in the Evansville area. So seeing you were at St. Mary’s (Now St. Vincent) blew my mind. I feel a calling to the Catholic faith. I was born and raised Protestant as well. Looking into it, and god willing one day I receive Eucharist as a Catholic!

@Lerian_V

4 жыл бұрын

@@serialcarpens290 Are you in RCIA yet?

I love listening to Dr Scott Hann.. So much to learn from him... Proud to be a Catholic...

@augusthyarackalfrancis263

4 жыл бұрын

Amen 🙏 same here

@philipng2358

3 жыл бұрын

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@philipng2358

3 жыл бұрын

7t7

Thank you Dr. Hahn, this is incredible. I have never been more proud to be Catholic!!!!

Dr. Hahn is the St Paul of this modern era.. thank you Dr. Hahn you are very special. God bless you

Amen "faith enhances reason". St. Thomas Aquinas; genius.

More on Martin Luther's 'respect' for the Bible: -threw out 7 books from the Septuagint -cut out passages from other books in the Holy Bible -disliked the book of James especially the part that proclaimed that faith w/o works is dead -cut out passages from Esther and Daniel -unilaterally added the word 'alone' to Romans 3:28 (later removed by followers but not before the false mindset of 'faith alone' set in) As a former protestant, I encourage you to do your research, you aren't far from the fullness of truth. It's bigger than you realize.

@timharris2291

7 жыл бұрын

Right, Bel the Dragon is not the word of God.

@73shults

7 жыл бұрын

laurenality I'm debating with a protestant... I need to ask you a question... is ok with you?

@laurenality

7 жыл бұрын

Sure, Ara Shu. Whatever it is, I'll answer you honestly.

@73shults

7 жыл бұрын

laurenality why protestants think Jesus paid in totality our sins, suffer for us and they don't have to do anything else but just believe in Jesus? Why they take parts of the bible as is, and others as "other meaning"

@73shults

7 жыл бұрын

laurenality thank you

Thank you Dr. Hahn for being an ardent defender of Catholic faith.

Wonderful marvelous delightful uplifting informative excellent presentation,all high and sincere thanks Givings be to the Eternal Father and to the Eternal Son and to the Eternal Holy Spirit for giving the One Holy Apostolic Catholic Christian Church of Traditional Teachings and Worship this very well learned man Scott Hahn YEAH AMEN DEO GRATIS 🙏🐑🕊️🔥✨

I don’t know what to say: We need this kind of talk❤

I had to listen to this to let this sink in. There's some deep theology here.

@marcosfonseca4566

6 жыл бұрын

It's my second time listening to it and I'm thinking about writing it down so it really sticks in my mind.

He just blew my mind! I wish I could have heard him speak when I was a lot younger

@tomlehr861

2 жыл бұрын

Hearing aids now?

This was an excellent presentation Thank you Scott for this furthermore I am personally starting my own personal research in protestantism God bless you all ✝️❤️🙏

My heart is full and my faith expanded. This needs to be revisited over and over again, to absorb the magnitude of its message. God bless Scott Hahn!

@tomlehr861

2 жыл бұрын

Indian catholic schools.....

BEHOLD the 21st Century Aquinas. Blessed be God in His Angels and His Saints. Thank you Hahn

@tomlehr861

3 жыл бұрын

Haha is a false teacher

@franciscomartinez5983

3 жыл бұрын

Dr. Hahn the best. Satan is mad cause of you Dr. Hahn

@tomlehr861

3 жыл бұрын

@@franciscomartinez5983 hahn is a scammer, itching ears,new false dogma, no thanks

@franciscomartinez5983

3 жыл бұрын

@@tomlehr861 Scott Hahn is a man sent from God full of the Holy Spirit that's why satan attacks him

@jimmydavid1993

3 жыл бұрын

@@tomlehr861 he is definately a scammer for Satan and/or heretics. Hope u are neither

Praise God for his brilliant servant like you Dr Scott Hahn for your excellent presentation and teaching of Catholicism. Thank you ❤❤❤❤❤

So so enlightening. I wish we could preserve Dr. Hahn's brain.

@oambitiousone7100

4 жыл бұрын

We can! Books & videos like these.

@tomlehr861

3 жыл бұрын

Missing link.....

@albertoascari2542

3 жыл бұрын

To pass on his knowledge to Seminarians and Laity is that gift of knowledge passed on. We have the miracle of technology to view this talk, thanks be to god . Amen

Amazing, I think he explains the history of our desacralized modernity really well

@hjm5885

6 жыл бұрын

yup, nice thesis

God bless you Dr. Hahn. I am learning so much.

44:10 the sequence is chillingly clear

I'm praying hard that you will remain a faithful Catholic for you are a big help to us catholics who are ignorant about the history of the church and its dogmas. Your speeches enlightened and strengthened our faith in GOD and in the universal church that is the repository of the holy sacraments, of factual and biblical dogmas and the way to eternal life. May the Almighty GOD bless you with vast divine wisdom and guidance that you may be able to continue propagating God's holy words of eternal life. GOD bless you always and your entire family.

Thank you Dr Scott, for helping me learn and understand more of our faith with God Jesus Christ! You are a blessing to me!🙏

Wish we could have it with Spanish subtitles! so i can share all this amazing information. Praise the Lord!!

@carledwardvincent7131

5 жыл бұрын

Impossible, si no se tiene un grado en filosofía y mucho tiempo a mano. Me encuentro en tu misma situación. Un poco frustrante, pero... uno puede aprovechar y luego ayudar a los demás a leer las escrituras mejor.

@RGTomoenage11

5 жыл бұрын

kathy rz Si se puede, lo podemos hacer.

@glennlanham6309

4 жыл бұрын

www.todostuslibros.com/autor/hahn-scott, todos sus libros....

@glennlanham6309

4 жыл бұрын

@@carledwardvincent7131 www.todostuslibros.com/autor/hahn-scott

@glennlanham6309

4 жыл бұрын

@@RGTomoenage11 www.todostuslibros.com/autor/hahn-scott

This is a treasure. I love Dr. Hann. He is an inspiration.

Love you Dr Scott Hahn. I have learnt so much about the Early Church History. I thank God for leading me back to the Church.

@PapalSoldier

7 жыл бұрын

Scott Hahn is a modernist heretic, please visit vaticancatholic.com for critical information on the Traditional Catholic Faith which is necessary for salvation.

Absolute;y brilliant and riveting. I am blessed to have heard this.

Wow! Brilliantly laid out! Thanks Dr. Hahn!

This is wild and profound. I've always been confused by the protestant insistance on sola scriptura, and "what they lose" if they accept that the Church matters at all, but apparently they're terrified of an arbitrary God of arbitrary rules. Why would you even want to spend eternity with such a God? Not surprising at all that Hitchens and the rest call Christianity Immoral: so divorced from the truth of God's Fatherly love, the arbitrary enforcement of rules which protestantism espouses IS profoundly twisted and bad for society, psychology, morality, and the rest!

@AveChristusRex

7 жыл бұрын

An insightful angle Dr. Hahn has taken, I agree. It shines light on the darker side as to why Protestants have no rest and constantly fear for whether they are truly forgiven, or will be saved, while on the other hand constantly repeating the same verses which they think proves they have 100% assurance of being saved by their mere assent to Christ being their Saviour.

@w.8424

3 жыл бұрын

Really just pulled Hitchens out of nowhere.

@wolfthequarrelsome504

2 жыл бұрын

@@w.8424 He was nowhere.

@wiwaxiasilver827

2 жыл бұрын

Ah, the hilarious sibling fight. I’ll go get popcorn. Maybe nonbelievers could just take you a bit more seriously if you united first.

@ArchetypeGotoh

2 жыл бұрын

@@wiwaxiasilver827 Welcome to 5 years later! I'm afraid I'll fail to deliver on the "hilarious sibling fight" you seem to be expecting, as I don't see anyone arguing here, but given it's been the position of the Catholic Church from the beginning that the protestants ought to return to union, I'm not sure why your critique was directed at us/me?

Thank you Dr Hahn. God Bless you.

as Catholics we are callled to hold true to Christ's church and have faith that it will be reconciled even as the liberals try trashing it from within. The Traditional Catholics will grow ever more... God be with you all.

@tomvogt4043

8 жыл бұрын

+SilverSwan well, our preference is irrelevant and WE the catholic church does have the Guarantee given by Christ that She, the church will never fall even agaisnt the gates of hell.... so no matter your preference I would suggest you remain with the church and not the separated offshoots which themselves have also tried dividing Christ's church much like the plague called Protestantism and the millions of hate filled people it falsely leas agaiunst Christ's church. The Orthodox church went against Christ's church 1000 years after her creation the plague went against here 1500 years after her creation... both still use the Scriptural texts She canonized and preserved for the world just to in it's complete form. Think before you jump. the fullnes of the truth is only available in Christ's true church.

@tomvogt4043

8 жыл бұрын

apologies we just call those people Traditional devout Catholics

@PapalSoldier

8 жыл бұрын

+Tom Vogt The only Catholics today are the ones that hold the theological position of sedevacantism. Not the ones that are united to the one world 'church' known as the Harlot of Babylon.

@AveChristusRex

7 жыл бұрын

+SilverSwan Godspeed brother (/sister?)! I reserve 'Amen' for solemn assent to prayer, I just feel it abuse to use outside prayer. Our Lord used it for teaching solemn truths, and as such it feels wrong to use it as evangelicals do (far too much, and inappropriately). Otherwise I would say it! Haha.

@catholicman8135

7 жыл бұрын

PapalSoldier Great judgment on fellow Catholics. Are you God?

Amazing!... This opened so much new angles for me!

I just finished watching this for the third time. Wow! It’s better every time I watch.

I love and it worthwhile listening to Dr.Scot it makes me more inspired to go deeper in understanding my Faith in God thru to His workers in the vineyard ,the pope.priests and the lay Catholic christians.

Now if only we could get Jordan Peterson and Scott Hahn in the same room...

@oambitiousone7100

4 жыл бұрын

JBP was the catalyst of my returning to God; I believe it's just a matter of time for him to convert to Catholicism.

@nathanmarsili5265

4 жыл бұрын

Or Peterson and Father Ripperger

@EspressoMonkey16

3 жыл бұрын

Itd be amazing if JP became catholic- and shared it with the world

@askmemakeup

3 жыл бұрын

Chris Rampersad ... I feel like he’s so close. He said in an interview with Prager that “Catholicism is about as sane as it gets”... and I think my mum and I stopped the video and just rejoiced and praised God and replayed it over and over. I pray for his conversion all the time. I love him.

@Lerian_V

3 жыл бұрын

@@askmemakeup He's getting closer... almost there.

An illuminating lecture!!!

Thank you Dr. Hann.

He's right. The professional class doesn't like something this tidy but history will go his way on this.

Thank you, Dr Scott. You are an inspiration for many.

My oh my!!! Brilliant and eye opening. Thank God for the Fatherhood and professors like Dr. Scott H. Wow!

Wow I like the speech 👍👍

It's interesting that this talk today isn't just about Protestantism and society but also what's going on in the Church itself. At least it gives one hope. We made it through this before, we can do it again.

I've watched this video a couple times, and only after I quite intensively went after reading and watching lectures on how the reformers thought, I understood it. It's amazing how Dr. Hahn presents the mistakes of the narrow-mindedness of Luther, Zwingli and Calvin together without even mentioning them directly - only by showing how misguided was the entire philosohipcal and theological basis these men sought after - a castle of sand. Bravo!

Thank u Dr. Hann. I learn so much.

Such a gifted teacher!

Every time he talk, he give us a rich theological insight.......God bless you and us, amen.

incredibly insightful. Thank you, Dr. Hahn!

@ronwisman1767

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for sharing your knowlege of our church

Thank you very much.

Wow!

awesome, may God continue to bless you and may you in turn be ever thankful for the wonderful way that God is using you to bring to light the beauty of our faith.

Great lecture. Thank you Dr Scott Hahn. Insightful as usual.

On the subject of Sacraments, St Paul wrote in 2 Timothy 3:5 that in the last days people will be holding a form of religion but denying the power of it. Unfortunately nowadays we have people who deny real Presence, that baptism saves, sacramental confession and even the ministerial priesthood which is really sad since there is a lot of resistance even when pointing to scriptures some have already made up their minds.

Dr Scott you are a great teacher of the Catholic Faith . This talk was engaging & informative. God bless you!

It wasn't until I became Catholic that I realized that the things coming out of the "Age of Enlightenment" and the Renaissance were not necessarily good things as we'd always been taught.

Historians often state that secularism has distinct Christian origins, but didn’t know the particulars of how it happened. This is some intriguing material. In the modern era Westerners get puzzled when meeting political movements that don’t have this dichotomy, namely Islam. Any time secular countries deal with the Middle East, they have to confront the religious character. All the militant groups are Islamist, they are no garden variety freedom fighters. This is such a sticking point that during Obama there were proposals to create a census designation of “Muslim” as an ethnicity. Also interesting that atheists adore Occam.

GREAT TEACHER

thank you, Dr. Hahn.

This is very good. What insight. Thanks for posting it.

Has anyone seen Steve ray? He is a very good speaker of the Catholic Church just like scott hanh coverts to the home of the church ⛪

@gwendolynnorton6329

3 жыл бұрын

He’s fabulous! Love his book crossing the Tiber

Excellent.

The date of this talk would be Oct 2005, based on the reference to Fr. Jenkins having become president of Notre Dame the prior month. Dr. Hahn looks a bit older these days (as do I)!!

My favorite theologian

I have a lot of respect for Dr. Hahn, he sparked my faith in 1992, near Ottawa, Ont speaking of John. I've heard him speak of marriage as covenant for years, and it makes sense, but I've recently listened to Traditional teaching on marriage that explains it as a "contract"; but because of "Natural Law" it is an irrevocable contract. I found it very interesting to have marriaage explained in terms of Natural Law, which seems to be a forgotten teaching in the Catholic Church. .. Yes, Natural Law is used in sexual morality, but it's much much more than that. Natural Law applies to marriage, duties of men, duties of women, as well as roles of women and roles of men. I believe Natural Law is the key to the "New Evangilization" and the rebuilding of the Catholic Church.

Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful ................

Before Reformation:1 Bible After Reformation: 500+ versions of the Bible

@gareginasatryan6761

4 жыл бұрын

Whats in a name vulgate was not the only Bible translation used, it was the most popular in Europe. You also had Gothic, Armenian, Greek, Russian, Arabic, Coptic, Syriac.

Is this speech or its information in one of Scott Hahn’s books? I need it in print to absorb it all

Excelente y también increíble esa capacidad de abarcar la marcha del mal de siglo en siglo. Que el Señor , nuestro Dios, proteja al Dr Scott Hahn.

@glennlanham6309

4 жыл бұрын

www.todostuslibros.com/autor/hahn-scott

Brilliant

Wow thank you Dr. Hahn

Thank you!

WOOOOOOOW.

3:40 Via antiqua - via moderna 6:40 metaphorical or metaphysical? 8:30 Athanasius verses Arius (fatherhood) 11:10 Augustin vs Manicheens (sacrements are impossible because matter is evil) 12:00 Augustin vs Donatists (sacrements are effective only if given by holy priests) intrinsicaly powerfull 13:20 Augustin vs Pelagians (sacrements are not useful for good christians)

Brilliant!

And that, my children, is how we got postmodernism. Can the genie ever get back into the bottle? Only God knows.

St boniface and st Aquinus interpreting St Augustine both taught the via antiqua at university of Paris" faith elevates perfects and enlightens reason. Expressed thru the liturgy and the sacraments enabling Freedom of a loving god . Versus the via moderna of the 14 century taught at the university separating reason from faith creating a judging will full God who has no covenant with man.

Facts.

An oddity, I tried to share this video from the KZread app and it would not load. I pulled it up in the Brave browser and was able to share. Just an observation. I live Dr Hahn and what he has done for the modern Carholic Church. Now if we could only get the church to reform itself and return to God.

God bless.

Troppo Forte

Wow according to a list I found St Augustine wrote 103 books. I wonder if Scott has all of them. I know his library is huge.

@JesusMary_I_Loveyousavesouls

4 жыл бұрын

Someone said he wrote 5.4 million words. Currently reading confessions of Augustine on recomendation of the late Fulton Sheen sermon on KZread

@Lerian_V

3 жыл бұрын

@@JesusMary_I_Loveyousavesouls I just saw his massive library.

Oh wow it really strikes me with what he saying about plausible deniability and particularly focusing on the natural world that this is now applying to Pope Francis.

So, are you saying that Total Depravity is a Manichaean heresy?

theyre celebrating the reformation at a catholic church near me...what do you think of this?

@Thinkcat2

6 жыл бұрын

I thought that only Jews knew how to make the most out of Schadenfreude, but maybe Catholics can too.

When did he give this talk? He looks so young. He looks like I remember him from the 90s.

What school of theology did the Good Samaritan go to? Is the Gospel simple and you're making it complicated or is it so complicated the greatest minds in Christendom can't agree? Please make a video.

This is a difficult thought.

So we'd be very wise indeed to think of Christ Jesus as one of the earliest and the Founder of the idea of being an Intellectual Revolutionary; His ideas only really were proven post His death- and if you deny that He died, then you reject the Gospels.

Athanasius of Alexandria... EPISCOPOS AEGYPTIAE...TO THE BISHOPS OF EGYPT . For whence do Marcion and Manichaeus receive the Gospel while they reject the Law? For the New Testament arose out of the Old, and bears witness to the Old; if then they reject this, how can they receive what proceeds from it? Thus Paul was an Apostle of the Gospel, 'which God promised afore by His prophets in the holy Scriptures[3]:' and our Lord Himself said, 'ye search the Scriptures, for they are they which testify of Me[4].' How then shall they confess the Lord unless they first search the Scriptures which are written concerning Him? And the disciples say that they have found Him, 'of whom Moses and the Prophets did write[5].' And what is the Law to the Sadducees if they receive not the Prophets[6]? For God who gave the Law, Himself promised in the Law that He would raise up Prophets also, so that the same is Lord both of the Law and of the Prophets, and he that denies the one must of necessity deny the other also. And again, what is the Old Testament to the Jews, unless they acknowledge the Lord whose coming was expected according to it? For had they believed the writings of Moses, they would have believed the words of the Lord; for He said, 'He wrote of Me[7].' Moreover, what are the Scriptures to him of Samosata, who denies the Word of God and His Incarnate Presence[9], which is signified and declared both in the Old and New Testament? And of what use are the Scriptures to the Arians also, and why do they bring them forward, men who say that the Word of God is a creature, and like the Gentiles 'serve the creature more than' God 'the Creator[1]?' Thus each of these heresies, in respect of the peculiar impiety of its invention, has nothing in common with the Scriptures. And their advocates are aware of this, that the Scriptures are very much, or rather altogether, opposed to the doctrines of every one of them; but for the sake of deceiving the more simple sort (such as are those of whom it is written in the Proverbs, 'The simple believeth every word[2]),' they pretend like their 'father the devil[3]' to study and to quote the language of Scripture, in order that they may appear by their words to have a right belief, and so may persuade their wretched followers to believe what is contrary to the Scriptures. Assuredly in every one of these heresies the devil has thus disguised himself, and has suggested to them words full of craftiness. The Lord spake concerning them, that 'there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, so that they shall deceive many[4].' Accordingly the devil has come, speaking by each and saying, 'I am Christ, and the truth is with me;' and he has made them, one and all, to be liars like himself. And strange it is, that while all heresies are at variance with one another concerning the mischievous inventions which each has framed, they are united together only by the common purpose of lying[5]. For they have one and the same father that has sown in them all the seeds, of falsehood. Wherefore the faithful Christian and true disciple of the Gospel, having grace to discern spiritual things, and having built the house of his faith upon a rock, stands continually firm and secure from their deceits. But the simple person, as I said before, that is not thoroughly grounded in knowledge, such an one, considering only the words that are spoken and not perceiving their meaning, is immediately drawn away by their wiles. Wherefore it is good and needful for us to pray that we may receive the gift of discerning spirits, so that every one may know, according to the precept of John, whom he ought to reject, and whom to receive as friends and of the same faith. Now one might write at great length concerning these things, if one desired to go rate details respecting them; for the impiety and perverseness of heresies will appear to be manifold and various, and the craft of the deceivers to be very terrible. But since holy Scripture is of all things most sufficient[6] for us, therefore recommending to those who desire to know more of these matters, to read the Divine word, I now hasten to set before you that which most claims attention, and for the sake of which principally I have written these things.

Of faith and reason, unpacking the protestant development.post 13 th century plagues when God was privatised by the french and Gernan princes parliament and universities and the schism of faith and reason divided the 2 th century catholic doctrines of belief of tradition the apostolic fathers the magisterium the pope the council of Nicea and trent and bishops and priests and the divine liturgy and sacramental intrinsic divinity. have I represented your points Dr Hahn?

I would LOVE for pope emeritus Benedict XVI to give his opinion on this.

@Lerian_V

3 жыл бұрын

He kinda touched on it in Germany. Remember the speech that riled up the muslims.

47:48 He meant Darwin, not Marx.

0:32 Hahaha!

What about the scandals of the Catholic Church at the time? The churches failures had a direct effect on the reasons behind the reformation. I am a proud Catholic but I don’t understand how this was ignored by scott

@johnosumba1980

2 жыл бұрын

Individual Scandal is not a reason for living the faith not unless you didn’t understand why you are in it in the first place.

@Lerian_V

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnosumba1980 Not forgetting there were Catholics in Luther's camp or at least agreed with him on the corruption in the Church and other issues, but they chose to remain Catholic and push for appropriate reform within the Church instead of going haywire and undermining the Church like Luther did.

Hm, I question the statement on faith being needed for reason in this video. It’s effectively just saying we have to take things for granted in order to take more things for granted, just in a way that sounds more convincing. If we can’t be absolutely sure, why should we just blindly suppose we can be sure? Our subjective need to rationalize does not mean the universe has to follow our whims.

@Lerian_V

2 жыл бұрын

The Science of Theology - kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y4Octs6wmau1eqw.html Harmony of Faith and Reason: 7 Principles - kzread.info/dash/bejne/f5qXw7umiNSwo6Q.html

@loulasher

Жыл бұрын

If you really want that resolved, read Aquinas. I can't explain it well and if I did, it would be just me asking you accept what I type out here. A short 2-fold sketch of an answer is this: if you doubt and dismiss your teachers to the point that you ignore them and just do your own research, the best you can hope to achieve is a thousand re-inventings of the wheel but all done in your own vocabulary and order such that it would only make sense to you-- and that does not address all the things you get wrong. So, instead, by accepting certain things that can only be taken on faith, you proceed in essentially the same way knowing and having faith that there is only one set of true things and that truths of faith can not contradict truths found by reason. This "Thomistic" approach or world view is incredibly resilient and guides scholars still today and may well be on an upswing as other approaches, post-modernism being one of the latest in a long line of flawed approaches since Aquinas, are not its equal.

@wiwaxiasilver827

Жыл бұрын

@@loulasher I don’t doubt and dismiss my teachers. However, those that I respect more also don’t tend to just expect me to take things for granted. I don’t think I had a chance to read the original writings of Aquinas himself, but I had come across Feser’s Aquinas because someone else had recommended it to me, and frankly, it wasn’t too convincing. A lot of Aristotle and Aquinas’ ideas do seem antiquated and presumptuous from a modern scientific glance, including the thought that some logic can stand on its own without any empirical justification and the thought that angels exist, and about the wheel analogy you made, sure, even if we do end up making a wheel again, we may still get a more detailed understanding of why it works, so I actually think it may be imperative for us to look again at things, even if it seems intuitive, because it’s one thing to conclude apples will fall to the ground from a tree, another to be able to demonstrate that though the gravitational formula, and yet another to figure out exactly where this 4th fundamental force fits in with quantum mechanics. Postmodernism is simply a gateway so that dusty ideas can be questioned to get at more generalizable principles or add more detail and nuance to them.

We know now the direction of Fr Jenkins at Notre Dame. Not good.

+approvedofGod Would you perchance check out a resource, a biblical proof for Catholicism for me/yourself?, it I gave you the link to one and said: read this with an open mind?

The problem is that even today in the Catholic Church many of us are prone to the same errors of the so call protestant reformers. We can all be guilty of wanting to form God in our own image and in a moment of brilliance to us which happens to be more a moment of delusion we come up with some idea that radically send us off the rails.

@oambitiousone7100

4 жыл бұрын

Cafeteria Catholics, you mean?