I am sure that someone has commented with this Kierkegaard quote before: "A fire broke out backstage in a theatre. The clown came out to warn the public; they thought it was a joke and applauded. He repeated it; the acclaim was even greater. I think that's just how the world will come to an end: to general applause from wits who believe it's a joke."

@einarabelc5

4 жыл бұрын

Why doesn't this have more likes?

@itsjustaride12

4 жыл бұрын

shotinthedark90 incredible quote

@shotinthedark90

4 жыл бұрын

@David Chorak Thank you for your thoughts.

@watleyjeremy

4 жыл бұрын

I've been saying for a few years now, the destruction of the is on a 5yr delay, smh..God bless everyone! Satan fights hardest, when God has big plans at work!

@daNihilism

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this.

"How do you make people laugh when the whole world is a joke" perfect description.

This reminds me a scene from "Pirates of the Carribean: To the World's End" where they try to figure a way to escape the underworld before sunset lest the get trapped forever (mind you they had to go into antarctica and then fall of a waterfall in order to find the otherworld, that is to go into the margins of the world and then lose all order by letting themselves into the watery chaos in order to enter death). In this scene Jack Sparrow (the wise fool of the company) finds and tries to understand the phrases "sunrise sets" and "up is down" which are the key to get out. As he's doing that he starts talking with his two little selves in an allmost delliriac situation (cause he's crazy) and in his dellirium he understands that the world of the dead is upside down to the world of the living, which means that if they turn their ship upside down (upstraight relative to the world of the living) at the time of the sunset (when the sunset to the dead becomes the sunrise to the living, ie when the world gets inverted from turnaround to straight) they will get transported back to the world of the living through the sea (which represents both life and death, connecting the two worlds). And how does he invert the ship? He starts acting foolishly by going up and down so that the others will think he is after something and by following him to see what is that he saw they will start rocking the ship and make it flip. Litterally the fool turns the world from inverted back to normal by acting foolishly.

@dmsnotesadventuresofthethi779

4 жыл бұрын

That is awesome! I never thought of that scene like that.

@ChezzyKnytt

3 жыл бұрын

This blew my mind, thanks.

@SP-iv2jj

3 жыл бұрын

Wow, I wish I could contribute more than a thanks, but thanks.

@telemarq7481

2 жыл бұрын

Great response

@Mr0rris0

2 жыл бұрын

Workin on it

In other words - "when things get strange, the strange get professional".

@trevorandthegunrunners4166

3 жыл бұрын

I think the quote is "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro"

@sooperd00p

Жыл бұрын

yea fools is appropriate but these arent dumb people, but they have been foolish.

I have to agree with the other comments in here: 1) The best speech you've given. 2) The bowtie looks dapper. 3) The beard is majestic.

@dionysis_

4 жыл бұрын

The bow tie and the beard are decorations 🙂 I am not talking about Jonathan’s beard here but the beard in general is a strange one as it tends to be a focus of people that want to appear wise. It seems quite obvious in new age gurus etc. where the length is taken to, at times, grotesque extremes. There is a interesting proverb: ‘If the scissors are not used daily on the beard, it will not be long before the beard is, by its luxuriant growth, pretending to be the head’.

@chrisc7265

4 жыл бұрын

the longer, professionally trimmed beard really suits Jonathan, gives him that air of biblical gravitas

@chrisc7265

4 жыл бұрын

@@dionysis_ true to your namesake, uprooting the traditional archetype and accusing it of fraudulence :D

@dionysis_

4 жыл бұрын

Chris C Hopefully a balancing and not a destructive force. Pruning instead of uprooting 😉

@amacnaughton85

4 жыл бұрын

@yabon banania The bowtie and beard are gargoyles. He keeps them on the outside of his body to maintain the order within.

When I was in university I went to an academic get-together at a prof's home. Relaxing with food and wine, the instructors and grad students -- being highly competitive folk -- began entertaining themselves by telling snarky stories about associates who were not present. So just for fun I told a story ON MYSELF -- about how I once made a fool of myself when butt naked with my family doctor -- everybody cracked up laughing ... there was a bit of a pause .. and they stopped telling snarky stories about others for the rest of the evening.

@spaceflip-zj2bm

4 жыл бұрын

I mean... Want a cookie?

@JustReadTheBible

4 жыл бұрын

mondopinion Great story 👏

@SKyrim190

3 жыл бұрын

That is a great strategy! I usually walk away (when I can) from this kind of conversations, but I think your strategy is better

I feel like the world makes a little more sense after this.

Like Russell Brand actually being a better journalist than anyone on CNN

@hakooplayplay3212

16 күн бұрын

And now he also got baptised and became Christian

Don't mind me, this might not be relevant for everyone 2:45 Ricky Gervais 6:45 To understand the Fool, meaning of nakedness (Discussion with MP?) - Other moments? @ 37:20, 46:38, 49:10 10:23 Medieval map as image of identity (Jordan Hall interview on Rebel Wisdom...) 16:16 Same as architecture of Church... Gargoyles (Batman video?) 17:38 Laughter meaning 18:50 Inversion festivals, Story of Esther 20:36 Medieval manuscripts, replacement of people with animals 26:28 Halloween 29:00 Carnival's relationship with death 33:22 Garden of Gethsemane 36:53 Why LGBTQ flag is rainbow 38:21 King David story (NB) --> Story of Christ (was born in a cave btw) 43:47 ...David, gambling/lots, nakedness --> Story of Christ (crucifixion) 50:37, again 55:10, again 57:17, again 59:00 Discerning fool and holy fool 56:30 Should we try to play the role of the fool? 1:00:01 Role of the foreigner 1:01:15 The holy fool's relation to madness/mental derangement 1:02:50 Is Trump the figure of a fool? 1:03:17 How the fool is related to Satan? (Also 59:00 Regarding humility) 1:04:21 Hasn't humanity been in the carnival ever since the fall? (Cycles & Sabbath) 1:08:26 Ornaments and placement Sound effects: 39:13 42:11 1:06:48 56:03, 1:00:30 HCIST

@KENTUCKYUSA1

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Lisa. Much appreciated.

@jarlnicholl1478

4 жыл бұрын

Somewhat misleading, as Gervais is given only an offhand mention.

@lisaonthemargins

4 жыл бұрын

@@jarlnicholl1478 Didn't I say this is not for everyone?

@lisaonthemargins

4 жыл бұрын

@@jarlnicholl1478 Sorry Jarl. I'm short on sleep 😅😩 But yeah, the notes are really for my personal reference.

@axp8598

4 жыл бұрын

@HAYAO LEONE I think so.

Do not deceive yourselves. If any of you think you are wise by the standards of this age, you should become "fools" so that you may become wise. Corinthians 3:18

@kenim

4 жыл бұрын

This becomes ever more relevant as our so called wisdom goes further away from divinely given wisdom. How Grace works is the complete opposite of our human values of "nothing comes for free" a d DIY

@kenim

4 жыл бұрын

I have to admit that myself being a diligent, pragmatic and working man, this was the hardest truth to grasp. Legalism was always looming, until I stopped trying.

I am a street performer jester living in New Orleans where Carnival is currently underway. Your lecture is so validating and a blessing from God. Everything you said are things I believe the Lord has been showing me as well. I could write a book on my adventures as a holy fool and if ever you would like to see validation of your prediction of needing to watch the fools I would love to show you proof through pictures of what I've been up to.

@josephtravers777

2 жыл бұрын

One of the most profound revelations I have had was walking out of Christmas morning Mass @ St. Louis Cathedral the year before you posted this. I'll never forget it.

@benjaminn6019

Жыл бұрын

Definitely write it!

I absolutely love your heart brother. Loved this entire talk. Jesus spit on mud and put it on someone's eyes. When questioned by the religious leaders was drawing in the sand. Had disciples get money for Caesar out of a fish's mouth. Chose fisherman, a tax collector, and a prostitute to be His closest followers. And then became the ultimate representation of humiliation on the cross. My heart is stirred from this message.

@Kuhariko

3 жыл бұрын

Biblical proof for Mary being a prostitute does NOT exist.. read ur Bible don’t listen to mystery Babylon aka Catholic Church and their priests known as who? fathers -who Christ told us not to call any man

Somebody: goes to the toilet Jonathan: he dead

@jonathanbonilla5654

4 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@rustyshackelford3590

2 жыл бұрын

Elvis Presley: goes to the toilet Everyone: he dead

This is the best speech you've given so far, in my humble opinion.

@MahaSattva

4 жыл бұрын

Highly agree

@heathersmith6305

4 жыл бұрын

I second that

@attrix09

4 жыл бұрын

Compliments from 'legalize_gayweed' symbolism happens

@evillano

4 жыл бұрын

picture checks out.

@micsaul7542

4 жыл бұрын

They have moved me to jealousy with that which is not EL; they have provoked me to anger with their vanities: and I will move them to jealousy with those which are not a people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation. DEVARIYM (DEUTERONOMY) 32:16 את CEPHER It’s the hypocrite who finally sees... don’t do what I just did.

Listening to Jonathan always fills me with a strange sense of joy and richness.

This aged like fine wine.

Great to listen too! A Magnum opus for us who have been following you for awhile. I can see all the connections clearly now.

@KENTUCKYUSA1

4 жыл бұрын

I agree. This clarified so much of Jonathan's previous works for me.

Regarding marginalia, I remember back to when me and my brother were children, we used to make little handwritten books for fun, and we tended to instinctively put funny and weird drawings in the margins. I hadn't thought about it until you showed the examples here from medieval books.

@maxpitchkites

3 жыл бұрын

They're like classroom doodles in the margins of homework.

I'm reading Revolt Against the Modern World and he talks about how the current state of the world is the precursor to death. Holy smokes that's terrifying

@einarabelc5

4 жыл бұрын

And in the third day "HE" resurrected.

@sampearson8651

4 жыл бұрын

yeah pageau mentioned that there is a connection between carnival and death but he never really followed up on it and that got me worrying about the implications. it made me think that the 'remedy' for our current state of affairs would have to be something as serious as war or plague and yes that idea really is terrifying. can you say more about this book you've mentioned?

@Varlwyll

4 жыл бұрын

@@sampearson8651 the author just talks about the "traditional" world versus the modern and how things were done in ancient times and how that was the proper mode of being for man. There's a lot A LOT of talk about symbolism in there as well. The premise is that we're in the Kali Yuga, which is the hindu spiritual dark age and the final age before a particular civilization collapses. The full title is Revolt Against the Modern World: Politics, Religion and Social Order in the Age of the Kali Yuga. It was written by an Italian man in the 40s

@sampearson8651

4 жыл бұрын

@@Varlwyll thank you

@quondamchoir6615

4 жыл бұрын

Evola

I like that you pointed out that one of the roles of the fool is to show that a system or authority does not encompass everything by pointing to the margins and hypocrisies and short comings using humor and ironic inversions. It occured to me that perhaps the reason a good or proper fool will also willingly and often make themselves the butt of the jokes as well is to show that they are not seeking to replace that authority with their own system. That would be the main difference between a rebel and a fool. Am I onto something there? How would that relate to king davids story who did end up becoming the authority?

@ghostwriter5295

4 жыл бұрын

Phil M I think you can tell a true Holy Fool when they become a fool for God. They no longer are working on their own behalf. Seems as if God made the fool a king. Im a clown in New Orleans who recently found Jesus. My world turned upside down. I've been thinking how the Pharisees and religious leaders crucified Jesus but the "joke" was on them because it fulfilled His destiny and became the ultimate sacrifice for all of mankind. Those who realized what they had done could have repented and experienced the revelation that all things work for the glory of God. side note * This sermon is so important because coming to the truth of God is like having your whole world turned upside down and backwards. Everything in this world is opposite of the truth. People allow themselves to sin because they want to live as indulgently as they please before they die - not realizing that death only exists BECAUSE of sin. Therefore they do the very opposite thing they wish to accomplish - which is to really live.. and the only way to live forever is to believe Jesus died and came back to life, defeating death and erasing the sins of the faithful. Wow!!! I'm amazed by it constantly!

@philm1640

4 жыл бұрын

@@ghostwriter5295 "Let no one deceive himself. If anyone among you thinks that he is wise in this age, let him become a fool that he may become wise. 19 For the wisdom of this world is folly with God. For it is written, “He catches the wise in their craftiness,”" 1 Corinthians 3:18-19

@stumbling

4 жыл бұрын

Good point, and another reason we must watch the fools because they may have a hidden agenda, instead of being an agent of chaos and inversion they may be selective in what they criticise and expose to further a political goal rather than serving as a mirror on society.

@lightninginmyhands4878

4 жыл бұрын

Succinct. I memorized your definition.

@AllOtherNamesUsed

4 жыл бұрын

Noah Church interesting post. God has such an amazing sense of humor, and deep irony too all through the bible. The very nation He chose to deliver it reject its true purpose and leading the attack against it/Him! What's more is this was even prophesied in it!! God's plan is so all encompassing that it even includes and challenge to the plan, to prove and fulfill it. Super awesome.

God has such an amazing sense of humor, and deep irony is all through the bible. The very nation He chose to deliver it reject its true purpose and leading the attack against it/Him! What's more is this was even prophesied in it!! God's plan is so all encompassing that it even includes a challenge to the plan, to prove and fulfill it. Super awesome.

@drummerboy737

4 жыл бұрын

I just don't see the humour in it. I see the baseless wicked nature of man. Dark humour isn't my picture of God

@EagleZtoTheGrave

4 жыл бұрын

Also, he chose the smallest possible place on the map to be the center of focus lol

@vajoynus

3 жыл бұрын

@@drummerboy737 God works on an infinite timeline. Whereas, we don't. Our perspective is vastly limited in scope.

@lausdeo4944

Жыл бұрын

@@drummerboy737 The Psalms says God sits in the heavens and laughs, mocking evil kings to plot against God.

I’ve recently become obsessed with your vids but this one….Wow! Really blew my mind. I’m going to have to watch it several more times.

@cbasallie

3 жыл бұрын

Like….everyone in our society glorifies King David and I’ve always found him to be quite revolting. However now, after your depiction of him as the fool….I quite like him. I don’t think it’s that I disliked King David so much but rather, I sensed that he was being misrepresented. As a necessary fool…..I really appreciate his character. Thank You so much for the clarification

Only Pageau can speak of the metaphysics of poo. He does it apologetically which makes his whole symbolic project approachable and very Canadian? This a great talk.

Thank you very much for your research and teachings. I was moved by your speech.

'Saskatoon' is an awesome name for anything.

Fascinating! Thank you. Really enjoyed this talk.

Holy fools, play for us! 🙏 🤐

Symbolism of the bow tie... wrong answers only. ready, set, discuss.

@JonathanPageau

4 жыл бұрын

Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ. (Sorry, that was the right answer.)

@dirtpoorrobins

4 жыл бұрын

Jonathan Pageau hahaha. it’s a speaker girding up their throat loins. That’s anatomically correct. I’m positive. Throat loins are real. Maybe they’re the only thing that’s real

@dirtpoorrobins

4 жыл бұрын

Also, the beard game is getting strong. I’m starting to be able to tell you’re Orthodox from a distance

@SpiritualFox

4 жыл бұрын

@@JonathanPageau My God, you might be getting A's on your report card, but you're getting an F on following direction. We want _alternatives_ to the truth; that means bold faced lies. He's (you're) wearing a bowtie for two reasons: One, he's supposed to be wearing a tie (thus it is an act of rebellion (Caesar's wrath will come swiftly!) against the established order & social norms (the archetype of the jester), and, two, it's current year, the present; He is a gift, an offering, the Lamb of God as substitute and sacrifice for the remission of sins. Basically, _basically,_ the meaning of the bowtie is that he is a gifted orator. _There is a bow on his_ (voice [which cries out from the wilderness]) _box._

@jasonaus3551

4 жыл бұрын

The bow tie symbolises the pagan god Rufus who had wings that came from the neck, they were useless wings but it looked cool and got Rufus heaps of snatch

I had an epiphany when you talked about lots being the breakdown of reason. The dogma of scientism - the strange faith that is at the heart of the scientistic atheism and religious scientism that we are seeing today - has disguised randomness as reason. They essentially, by saying there is no consciousness, intelligence, or order behind the creation of the universe and living beings, are saying that randomness IS reason. That the highest logic that exists springs out of complete chance (atoms spinning mindlessly, evolution mutating randomly). Our culture, which believes it is living in the Age of Reason, which believes it is enlightened and intelligent, is really worshipping randomness, which they have mistaken for reason. Exactly why the wheel needs to turn - thank you for sharing your wonderful knowledge and understanding!

@kbeetles

4 жыл бұрын

Jillian Perkins - I see what you mean.... worshipping "randomness" and through that worshipping "anything goes" but then trying to turn it into order by fighting anybody who does not accept this "order of aimless randomness".The big dilemma is 1/if anything goes as all pops up randomly then saying that this is BS is just as valid as any other odd thing that emerges 2/if this new perspective should take everything, you are implementing some kind of order - for what reason? After all everything is equal in its popping up nature..... ;o)

@GeoffBosco

4 жыл бұрын

You keep insisting that this is some failure of reason, but this is exactly what one should expect when a culture idolizes the mind. This isn't splitting hairs. Because as I read you, you want to blame this on chaos, when in fact this is exactly what idolatry of order looks like.

@chrisc7265

4 жыл бұрын

I see where you're coming from --- that all we are is a bunch of atoms that happened to bump in the right manner is "random" compared to the order of Christian cosmology but I think a more accurate criticism of the "science guys", is that they afford science and reason metaphysical, revelatory power such that "science" is no longer scientific, and "reason" no longer rational. It's not random, but a specific worldview --- what the science guys unanimously seem blind to is that their worldview is no more scientific (in the strict, literal sense of the word) than the religious worldviews they crap on. atheism itself is leap of faith --- he who orders his life (as much as is possible) through science is an agnostic that in our evolutionary past we were scurrying around the underbrush like rats is merely the best origin narrative science offers --- yet science guys cling to it with religious zealotry, fiercely opposing breaches of orthodoxy like the concept that, because every complex thing we know the origin of was designed, perhaps the complex things we don't know the origin of were also designed (a perfectly legitimate hypothesis in the spirit of naive science) the big bang is theorized by stretching mathematical equations back to their theoretical limit, not by any sort of empirical evidence. Yet to the science guy, the big bang _must_ be the start of the cosmos, and exceedingly important questions like, "okay but what about before that?" are brushed off --- of course there was nothing before that. How does nothing become something? You know, science (one among a host of equally lame "scientific" answers). Find a science guy who believes that these are merely the best narratives scientism can weave currently, and are not scientific fact --- they are few and far between. Find a science guy who can admit that science does nothing to suggest the cosmos is purely material. There are a host of non-scientific, faith-based presuppositions that go into the science guy worldview - foremost among them, a stubborn blindness to the fact that any of these presuppositions are faith-based. And while lip service is paid to the random, meaninglessness of the cosmos, that is only superficial, reactionary --- beneath that is an ordered worldview. After all, no one can live in a random, meaningless universe.

This man is a genius. Let the fool arise this season and set the record straight!!

"Feast of the Ass" is in a sense an inversion by it's name too, when you think about it as a play on words.

@Menaceblue3

4 жыл бұрын

*E A T T* *B U T T*

This talk was just magical! ☺️ Thanks Jonathan

Excellent work brother. Keep it up.

Spongebob square paints comes to mind, notably the episode "opposite day". All actions in the world under the sea invert.

God bless your heart for this. Thank you for helping us understand.

When there is nothing for the rebel to rebel against but rebellion itself. It’s the snake eating it’s own tail. But it’s still a snake. 🐍

@ghostwriter5295

4 жыл бұрын

VoL. Rebels in Christ turn away from this world. We rebel against Satan by following the Savior.

I've watched this a couple of times now and have this annoying feeling that there is something terribly important about understanding the fool that I'm still not getting

@peaknonsense2041

2 жыл бұрын

The Fool exists to unravel the complete absurdism of power as a function. Comedy and laughter are disarming. It allows ideas to be entertained that would be fought with everything otherwise by those listeners still supportive of the status quo if done outside the function of the Fool. This particular situation is why it was Republicans in the 1980's who were the one's without a sense of humor and in a moral panic. They were the status quo. If the internet existed then it would have been the "right" who couldn't meme. And it's why the "left" can't meme because they have no sense of humor. Their ideology is the status quo and criticism of it is "unacceptable" to them because the Fools that are tearing their beliefs apart are correct and they know what that means; their power is in jeopardy.

@crawfordroses

5 ай бұрын

​@@peaknonsense2041Brilliantly explained. Thank you.

That was very enlightening. Thank you !

so interesting! Thank you for sharing this talk.

Satan tries to play the Jacob to Christ's Esau in the wilderness. He tries to trick Christ into trading his "birthright" (his status as the Son of God) for food, power, glory, etc. But Christ is the holy fool who tricks the trickster, overcomes by death he who holds the power of death, and reveals the glory offered to him in the wilderness to be death while transforming death into his own glory.

@ghostwriter5295

4 жыл бұрын

shotinthedark90 beautifully put. He tricks the trickster yes he does!!!!!

@drummerboy737

4 жыл бұрын

Holy fool? ... I cannot attatch the moniker to God in the flesh

@shotinthedark90

4 жыл бұрын

@@drummerboy737 Fool is a relative term. If the wisdom of the world is folly to God, the wisdom of God is folly to the world.

@ghostwriter5295

4 жыл бұрын

shotinthedark90 totally agree. The wisdom of God is seen as foolishness to those who don't have eyes to see. The moniker "holy fool"is being used to explain this.

@kubasniak

4 жыл бұрын

And so what and who cares. Back to reality, to plans, dreams and hobbies and trying to working out relationships. All this magical thinking and powers are a laughing stock.

You can look like a fool without being one. It all depends on the situational construct. Sometimes those who are regarded as fools are just ahead of their time. I wonder if when Noah was building his ark, if he was regarded as a 'fool'.

@ttsnews8035

4 жыл бұрын

It's a front so you let your guard down - a disguise for their wickedness and evil acts.

@meeks4004

3 жыл бұрын

@@ttsnews8035 i know you made this comment a year ago..but your response has me perplexed.. intrigued ...please explain how this works

Excellent Jonathan!

Hello from Saskatoon! Thanks for this talk

20:00 the wheel was used by Angel as a representation of themselves in CS Lewis’ Perelandra. Though it was too much for a human to understand.

Best talk so far, thanks

Love your channel

Awesome speech, I'm a fan now :)

How can you tell the difference between a cycle of foolishness about to turn towards reason and piety, and the final depraved stage of decline in an empire about to fall?

@chrisc7265

4 жыл бұрын

I think they are different in quantity but not quality --- out of the ashes of the fallen empire, emerges new order

@joshjgraham

4 жыл бұрын

Chris C Okay seems logical, but it’s just not quite as optimistic as the first option.

simply profound to focus our eyes on the unexpected topic (70% of the way into your lecture).

I always saw a link between these carnivals and Saturnalia myself. I think your Notre Dame example illustrates this the best.

Incredible. 👏👏👏👏

Très apprécié M. Pageau; cela m'a fait réfléchir.

Awesome word

Your comment on irony got me thinking of the teenagers I work with. 99% of the the things they say are ironic. Not sure if its the reality of our time or if its just them being teenagers. My sense is that the two stack on top of each other. Which lead to younger people being so overly ironic that it’s difficult to even have a conversation with them.

@heavyequipment1930

4 жыл бұрын

Sarcasm is one of the lowest form of humour

@mostlydead3261

4 жыл бұрын

@jay hi. if every kid engages in it, then how you can judge who among them is 'smart'? Thank you.

@iv4135

3 жыл бұрын

Precisely. I am technically Gen Z and I noticed this about MYSELF. There’s a word for it: black humor. We delight in our dying world, everything is a joke, nothing is wholly good or sacred. I’ve only just recently, in the past year, come to realize how much this pattern of speaking and joking was harming me. It isn’t fun to be around, and is also spiritually bankrupt on so many levels.

@iv4135

3 жыл бұрын

And I should note by dying world, I mean the perceived dying world. Most Gen Z take this to mean climate change, racism, discrimination etc but I don’t follow that viewpoint anymore

Great timing for God’s genius!

The Dutch celebrate new years eve with an inordinate amount of firework which explode nearly continuously for about 5 hours. The normally straight laced Dutch, with their organised cities, descend into smoke and noise for one evening of the opposite.

@KENTUCKYUSA1

4 жыл бұрын

Interesting.

I hope you will comment on the "new guy meme" as addressed by Pewdiepie. It was the inversion of the authors intention that made the meme viral.

Really interesting!

Thank you! 🙂

Thank you for CAPTIONS. HELPS EVERYONE.

Couldn't help but think about all the different elements you mention in this lecture that are present in The Beatles' Magical Mystery Tour album - The cover has The Beatles dressed as animals above a rainbow, the breakdown of white light - Second song on the album is The Fool On The Hill, which includes the lyric "he never listens to them, he knows that they're the fools. They don't like him..." -The front half of the album has more fringe songs that are less accessible to the average listener with more nonsensical lyrics and more "noise like" music as opposed to traditional pop melodies but it all builds up to All You Need Is Love, one of the more popular Beatles songs that was performed on the first worldwide broadcast -Plus this is the last album before the Paul Is Dead conspiracy theory began

Fantastic. And not just for the bow tie.

„The holy fools, not the regular fools.“ - Fools I enjoyed watching this. Thank you.

I'm from Norwich :D always nice to hear a mention in videos (I had no idea about the Helter Skelter).... It's pronounced Norrich by the way (if you think that's bad you should try some of the other places near by Wymondham (pronounced Windum) or Costessey (pronounced Cossey))

ya brother jon is gettin good at this

brilliant thank you

Excellent! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Wow, Ive actually been thinking about the Heyoka a lot lately. Whenever you talked about the fool in the past, thats the character that I would always think of.

@ghostwriter5295

4 жыл бұрын

Standing Bear same

Merci Jonathan

Very cool lecture! I was in Sasky, and I'm sorry I missed it! Would be great to get in touch, though.

I live in saskatoon. If I had known you were coming I would have attended

Nice to see the beard coming along. Seriously though, this was great.

@KENTUCKYUSA1

4 жыл бұрын

David Chorak, I disagree. It is spiritually and mentally filling.

In II Corinthians chapters 10-12 the Apostle Paul plays the fool. Very interesting to look at in light of your talk.

Thank you.

I am here because of JP. I am grateful to be listening to the other JP.

I just got to part where you talk about Halloween being one of these festivals and that people probably don't do the remembrance of the dead along with it. I actually wonder about that. Halloween is probably the biggest of these in secular culture. Its celebrated second only to Christmas in the States, I think. I've noticed a slowly increasing embrace of the Mexican day of the dead in the past few years. It's usually presented as cultural inclusion, but I wonder if we just need something like it today. For example, my daughter's secular preschool had the kids all bring in a photo if a deceased family member (or pet if the child didn't know a family member who had passed). It's been a few years, but she still asks to make an altar at Halloween. She also really likes the movie Coco, so I'm sure that has something to do with it.

We live in a ComiTragedy. Existence as Yin-Yang. “What joke can you make when all of life becomes a joke?” Well, at that point, you mourn the Tragedy and give the Devil his due.

@drummerboy737

4 жыл бұрын

Satan is no tragedy because he is powerless. God redeems. Praise be to God.

@95percentair

4 жыл бұрын

The tragedy side takes up the same amount of space as the comedy side. To _not_ recognize that, i.e. give the devil his due, is dangerous, imo. What's illogical to me is moving through clown world trying to be all positive all the time. I understand why ppl do that, but it isn't truthful. It's also true that Light wins, so if ppl want to be positive about that that's great. But don't remove the margins of the field (I love that analogy) while singing la-dee-da everything will be fine. Monsanto literally proved that analogy, and we let them. And many ppl just can't look at truth and handle it. I know way more ppl like that than like us truthers. I understand that too, ppl have responsibilities, but at this point that leaves you working for the other side (imho). The Devil counts on that. A war on God's plants (return of slavery), a war on a feeling, on and on - they must be shocked at their own success! Imagine if every person could just look at one (terrible but pinnacle) event for what it was and is - _just one_ difficult thing the opposite of positive, how we would please God then - at least getting the Devil back to his own side of the coin. We still humiliatingly disrobe at the airport, for fear of looking at the truth. (wow JP really nailed this one. Bravo.)

The one thing a tyrannical system (which by definition is insecure) cannot abide by is ambiguity. Only the Fool can speak to the King so (his number in the Tarot is Zero, he stands outside of the System), although his position is tenuous. Observe which systems around you cannot tolerate ambiguity and there you have found your new master.

Does the medieval map have a name? It's beautiful. I would love to try to find a print.

@mvdbergrede

4 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure about this specific map, but if you're searching for something similar, mappa mundi is the name for Medieval world maps like this. The Hereford mappa mundi is probably the most famous one and also has the East on top with at its extreme Eden, like the map Jonathan uses here.

@allisgrace1313

4 жыл бұрын

@@mvdbergrede Thank you so much! I will be looking into that!

@allisgrace1313

4 жыл бұрын

The map is called The Psalter World Map. I was able to find it on fineartamerica.com.

Bravo 👏 👏👏

Life is one big stage. Enjoy the show. Love we'll manafest

Jonny P lookin dapper as heck with that bowtie

The one building that is all fringe, all ornament is the witch’s gingerbread house. And we all know what happens inside there…

Not far from where my father used to live there is a place where traditionalist Jews came to celebrate once a year. Though it wasn't a day, it was at least a week, according to him. They believed that they are forbidden to do ANY kind of work during this time, so the place would drown in the garbage and worse by the end of festivities. All kinds of night butterflies were gathering from across the land there because the celebrants spent a lot of money left and right. In general, the stories he told me about what was happening there left an uneasy impression on me. Watching humans indulge themselves in festivities without restrain is not pretty.

And the joke is on us if we believe 'Yeezus' is a Christian

@KENTUCKYUSA1

4 жыл бұрын

I'm going to wait and see what happens with him. No judgments.

@johnmang2659

4 жыл бұрын

@@tobiahtoviyahgoodnessof349 i think he was talking about kanye bro.

@tobiahtoviyahgoodnessof349

4 жыл бұрын

@@johnmang2659 Thank You for the correction sibling. Love and kindest of regards from afar

@tobiahtoviyahgoodnessof349

4 жыл бұрын

Behold for Thy Soul can neither be bought Nor sold at any price or cost.

@mr.uncleg5307

4 жыл бұрын

He's claimed Christianity since he came out, so I'm not sure about his "recent conversion"

This reminds me of a Hunter S Thompson quote from Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas... "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro"

Laughter and everything that a fool or trickster makes you do or does, brings about a catharsis, which is a form of purification, so the fool can work as a doctor in a sense, curing illnesses that are at the very edge through catharsis of breathing, gestures and sounds (laughter) or catharsis of movement through acrobatic type of movements that take you to the extreme without going as far as injuring the person. I teach and practice a sport that is called TRICKING and it's all about acrobatics and kicks in the air without an actual target to kick, and I see how most of the people who practice the sport, are outcasts who nobody understands, and through this sport they find some ground in a community so they don't go insane for feeling so in the edge.

In listening to this wonderful (in multiple senses of that word) talk, it occurred to me that perhaps one of the definitions of a Totalitarian system could be that it is one whose leaders have succeeded at throttling the Holy Fool to death in the cradle.

35:12 this was great comedic timing, I lolled :D

Thank you. That was eye opening lecture on the venerated holy fools. I never fully understood their role in the bigger picture, despite living in Russia all my life and even referencing their agiography almost every time while defending the Orthodox faith from the nondenominational protestants' accusations.

Being silly can also be used as a front so you let your guard down - a disguise for wickedness and evil acts. People are suckers for the funny guy.

@Jessica-iq6kj

4 жыл бұрын

Yes I have a certain family members that say really mean things in a jokingly way and nobody says boo. I stay away from them. But it works great for covert bullying.

Hey Jonathan, really appreciate and enjoy your videos. Have you, or anyone reading this, considered the Old Testament story of Joseph in the light of the "Fool Inversion" concept? I would be interested to hear your thoughts.

Just wanted to say thank you Jonathan. Jordan tricked me into listening and then I found you, now I’m on my way to Jesus. I’ve been wondering forever what was wrong with church in America and now I know, we have lost all our traditions. Thank you for introducing me to the beautiful world of orthodoxy. God bless you brother.

I'd be afraid to attend a Pageau lecture, because I know when he inevitably mentions _The Feast of the Ass_ , I'd burst out laughing, and the people around me would look at me like I'm a moron

very niiiiiice

"When ignorance destroys culture, monsters will emerge." -Jordan B. Peterson

52:44 "Why do we need to recognize and pay attention to the fools, for personal enjoyment or so we can leverage their effect?" Because, as Doug Wilson points out in his recent Plodcasts, Christ in Matthew 16 calls the Pharisees and the Sadducees hypocrites because for all their knowledge of the Law they did not grasp the big picture because they did not integrate themselves fully into the Truth of it: they could tell see physical signs and thus predict the physical weather, but could not recognize spiritual signs and predict the movements of Providence in the hearts of men, unlike the Children of Issachar who, we're told in 1st Chronicles 12:32, were men who understood their times and thus knew what to do in those times. If we want to understand the times in which we live we need to know precisely the kind of cosmology you've laid out here, so we can recognize the signs of where and when we are and thus know where we're going and what we need to do on the way. I keep telling my friends and family they need to watch your channel. I'll be sharing this video around like crazy. Thank you for all you do.

Come to calgray please.

The fool is my favorite archetypical figure.

What was Dadaism other than turning the self-serious art-world upside-down? And now almost the whole art-world is Dadaist. And they take themselves more serious than ever.