I SERVED ON THE FIGHTING LADY DURING WW2 IT WAS THE YORKTOWN C V 10 I WAS IN THE NAVY UNTILL THE WAR WAS OVER IM AN OLD MAN NOW BUT OH MY WE SURE AS HELL COULD FIGHT STAND FAST AND GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TRIUMPH

@antonyandrerenaissancearti977

9 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your service..when men were men. And society had strong moral values ,unlike our loose society today.

@ganzmontejo4176

8 жыл бұрын

+Donald Gordon grandpa is that you?

@mdudley52

5 жыл бұрын

Donald Gordon I know you are proud to be part of Americans greatest generation.

@chingmeichen436

5 жыл бұрын

PRESIDENT TRUMP IS PROUD OF YOU AND ALL SURVIVORS OF THE BIG WW2! MERRY CHRISTMAS 2018!

@0016547

5 жыл бұрын

You sir and all the men like you, have my up-most respect. Thank you and may God Bless You.

MY DAD SERVED IN OUR US NAVY IN WW2...I AM PROUD OF MY DAD...MISSING FROM NORTHERN CALIF...WALKED AWAY WITH WALLET IN POCKET...STILL A MYSTERY TODAY...HE WAS A WOODSMAN HUSBAND AND US NAVY MAN THAT I STILL LOVE & MISS TODAY IN 2022...GOD BLESS YOU DAD...MY HERO!!!

@patnielsennielsen5340

26 күн бұрын

Only God knows what these vets come back they cant forget. God bless n heal their minds n hearts for all they saw n endured.

@besserschreiben9481

3 күн бұрын

fixyourcapslockkey

I was lucky enough to survive a tour on Fighting Lady. Yorktown was the only carrier at that time to possess color film, therefore most exposures were Yorktown. I was assigned, as an Ensign, as the CAG wingman. Our Squadron was Fighting Squadron One.

@z0dthepally

4 жыл бұрын

i would love to pick your brain for hours.

@williamarden5441

3 жыл бұрын

I was an aircraft mechanic from 1999-2009. Was always apart of CAG7. Miss it a lot!

@rpm1796

3 жыл бұрын

Fantastic story Mel...a truly amazing campaign, unequaled in history. So...you were flying Hellcats? My very best to you and your family Sir.

@Biden2024_

3 жыл бұрын

R PM unfortunately he passed away last year :( RIP hero

@hilly9433

3 жыл бұрын

@@Biden2024_ how do you know

MY DAD WAS ON THIS SHIP AND I SAW HIM ON THIS FILM DOING HIS JOB. LOADING BOMBS AT 41:13 .I MISS HIM VERY MUCH.

@lancelot1953

8 жыл бұрын

+William Schaffer Bless your father for his service, he was a brave courageous man, Ciao, L (Retired Navy)

@painless540

8 жыл бұрын

+William Schaffer My uncle, Meldon K Burke was also on board (and had a plank), I wonder if they worked together- he fused the bombs. Unfortunately we lost Mel last year. Heck of a guy.

@slowpoke96Z28

7 жыл бұрын

awesome. old school naval aviation. we've come a long way in a short time, and he's a part of that...

@karlaiken6152

7 жыл бұрын

Dear Mr Schaffer, its not often you see people who are family in old grainy documentary war films.What a thrill it must have been. My family (uncles x 3) also served but in the british RAF.

@robertanglee4735

7 жыл бұрын

He helped make America free. My Father in law was one of the servivers of the LADY. He served 33 years last duty was with the River Rats in Vietnam.

My uncle John Thomas Delmore was SB-2C Helldiver Pilot aboard the Fighting Lady. He was shot down and reported MIA over Guam on June 19, 1944. Unfortunately, he never returned, Bless the brave men, women and family who sacrificed so much for us.

@Mister8224

2 жыл бұрын

Your uncle sacrificed his life unselfishly for a cause greater than any one of us. Eighteen days after your uncle was shot down, my dad, a B-24 pilot, was hit over Munich, Germany, on his 15th mission. He managed to get his plane to Switzerland & interned there until war's end. He rarely spoke of his times living in Wendling, England, but like your uncle he had a deep sense of patriotism & duty. I'm frightened to think what our response would be like today. Anyway, sorry for your loss, but you at the same time, must be proud.

@sandym8787

3 ай бұрын

My only Uncle Harold was shot down June 12 , 1944 , over Guam , a radioman on an Avenger . Pilot and gunner gone too . They went down in flames still strafing their targets according to a witness. The pilot waved to one of his buddies . So young , so handsome , I still cry sometimes when I think of his life cut short. And still never returned to what's left of his family .

I was born in 1962 in Munich. I'm German (have a German passport only) but my dad was a GI from Michigan, maybe i'm an American without an US-American citizenship too... whatever: in summer 1990 i was in Charleston, South Carolina, for a visit and OF COURSE I has been on the "USS Yorktown" which is laying there in the harbour. What shall I say, never i was a soldier but a cold shiver run down my back while i walked around there on the flight deck... can't explain what I felt...

@WilliamViets

2 жыл бұрын

Think of the sacrifice these men made as helping to extirpate the Nazi tyrants

@MrFictionfactory

2 жыл бұрын

Not the "USS Yorktown CV 10" (USS Yorktown CV 5 was sunk in the battle of Midway...) and its crew... they fought in Pacific Ocean against the Japanese... not against Hitler in Europe.... and then later in Korea and as "coast guard" in Vietnam...

@rnies6849

2 жыл бұрын

@@WilliamViets and establish the Stalin reign

@ericripley9739

2 жыл бұрын

@@rnies6849 The “Stalin Reign” was well established long before WW II.

@rnies6849

2 жыл бұрын

@@ericripley9739 the stalin reign was near to fall in 1941, but thanks to the help of the USA and Britain it didn`t

My father in law was on CV5 Yorktown when it was sunk at Midway. He was in the boiler room and was one of the last men out before they closed the water tight doors. He didn't talk about it much but when he did I for one listened intently.

That’s my dad at 14:34…..a US Marine gunner…….writing home. Miss you dad, Semper Fi.

@marlonbrando9279

2 ай бұрын

Writing a letter ?

@brutusbarnabus8098

2 ай бұрын

Yes, writing a letter. Why does that confuse you???

@MiximusRider

10 күн бұрын

checked it out. lucky you

My father fought the Japanese in New Guinea. He received a Purple Heart with a cluster for his pains. My father was the best and wisest man I ever knew. These men are cut from the same fabric.

What kind of young men did we have back then? All were so anxious to serve and fight no matter what the cost. Excellent film, many details and a sad ending when we see men like Smokey leave eager to fight, and never return. They all did us proud, and when I used to see such men at the VA, years after the world had forgotten about their valor, I used to shake their hands and thank them for doing us so proud. SALUTE!

@DG-wu7ke

2 ай бұрын

Donald Von Shitzenpants thinks they were suckers

@Sir_Richard_Stewart

21 күн бұрын

And today most men are A Joke

I was on the USS Theodore Roosevelt CVN-71 and when we were down in GITMO we had what we called a "steel beach picnic" We had been at sea doing workups for three months straight in 100° heat and 100% humidity. It was brutal on the flight deck. But when we stood down for a day, we had the picnic and grilled out, played baseball, volleyball, fished over the side, dived off one of the elevators and just basically slept on the deck like you seen these guys 50 years earlier. Amazing how the more things change, the more they stay the same.

@jimevans1112

7 ай бұрын

Cool story thanks for serving

Today, this ship is a museum at Patriot's Point, Mt. Pleasant, SC. It is also home to the Society of the Medal of Honor. I had the honor and privilege to be on that ship as a visitor, and had the pleasure of swapping stories with MoH recipients who were also visiting the ship. They are a wonderful bunch of men. Some of them served on the Yorktown. One gentleman I met had served on the USS Yorktown (CV-5), then after she sank, served aboard the USS Yorktown (CV-10).

@darnellholmes2072

2 жыл бұрын

There's nothing like a FLAT TOP ( FLOATING CITY'S)🇺🇸⛑️🪖

@reggiehowze1891

Жыл бұрын

If this is the ORISKANY it's at the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico near Pensacola. I worked crash and salvage, and yellow shirt.

@reggiehowze1891

Жыл бұрын

@@sg-yq8pm . Good morning. Thanks. I got the numbers mixed up. The ORISKANY was in the movie that Ronald Reagan player in I think.

@user-hk8uo9sg5u

Жыл бұрын

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@johnbenet5394

4 ай бұрын

I was on the ShangriLa and it was the most miserable time of my life

I am a Baby Boomer born after WW2.Well my Father was a 57th Infantry Philippine Scout and saw action in Bataan Defense.On February 7, 1945, he joined The Liberating U.S. Forces under Colonel Everette Yon. After The Second World War he continued his Military Service in The U.S. Army and completed his 30 years of Service and retired in Honolulu, Hawaii on 1959..Proud of Dad,Our Family's hero, Corporal Macario Bautista. I am so Proud of All The Fighting Men and Women who Fought in The Second World War. Nice Film and felt deep meaning to me.

As recent retired 30 year Naval Aviaton MCPO I was struck how the "routine" duties of this great ship have not changed that much to today. Even the most menial job is so important for everyday operations. The same tasks that still have to go on when all hell is breaking loose around you.... Men still have to eat, the heads still need to be cleaned and the laundry still has to be washed... if not, you wont be in fighting shape for long.

@paulsuprono7225

2 жыл бұрын

Semper Fi 🇺🇸

@GM8101PHX

2 жыл бұрын

I am an Air Force veteran that served during the nuclear cold war with the B-52's and KC-135's on 15 minute ground alert. I was a part of the 92d Security Police Squadron. Yes, we won the cold war without firing a nuclear weapon in anger, but! We were never shot at, nor had to endure the hardships those guys did during World War II, If not for those Heroes I might not be here to type this reply. I am so very grateful to the men in all service branches for the safety and security of our great Nation. But I have to stand and salute the brave heroes that served in that war. They stopped the aggression of the Japanese at the time and the German's. Because of these brave men we live today. It is priceless what they did, and there are no words good enough to thank them. And MCPO Williams you earned your retirement, Thank You for serving!!!!

@rodneyjaynes2485

2 жыл бұрын

I went through boot camp in 1969 , all of this is familiar to me in 2022. After boot camp and A school I spent the next 18 years with the Marines. With the Marines, we were deployed on two different ships, an LPD (Ogden), and an LKA, I forget the name(Oriskany?), except we rolled a lot and were cramped for space. On board was just like in this video. The Navy has found a truly workable solution to on board evolutions. As you can tell, I was a Corpsman assigned to the Marines. Loved it!

@kballenger53ify

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely Master Chief! I Served 4 Years Aboard The USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN-69) As An ABH3 From 1980 - 1984, And This Movie Brings Back Lots Of Memories! To Be Honest With You, Things Really Haven't Changed Very Much As Far As Carrier Ops Are Concerned. Sure They're More Technically Advanced, But The Basics Are Still The Same!!! ⚓

@shivasirons6159

2 жыл бұрын

Kevin i served on the U.S.S. Coral Sea C.V. 43, AO. During the same period.

My Grandfather was part of this highly decorated task force the Fighting 58. He was an Officer on the USS Boston in support of the Yorktown. Though not having seen this film before, I recognize these battles from his own descriptions of the same, as i pressed him about it as a kid. He was a truly great man, as were they all.

My father was in the Maritima Militare di Italia (Italian Navy) during WW2. He had visited the Yorktown and the Fighting Lady. He got astonished as he entered into the Hangar down the deck. He said it was one of the giant aircraft carriers.

I was born in England 1950 at a well bombed Naval City. Although it was years past WW2 we still had some rationing and the piles of bricks and rubble was staggering but great places to play. My dad was Royal Navy and went through two sinking's with the third ship he saw the end of the war in europe. He landed the Yanks into Salerno Italy. So my Dad and I thank you as a friend and now that I am a U.S. citizen a fellow countryman.

@mastro4886

2 жыл бұрын

Glad to have ya brother. We must always remember, and never forget those brave men and women who fought for all of us.

@christhompson3750

2 жыл бұрын

My granddad's brother served with the SeeBees during WWII. He had two ships shot out from under him. He never spoke about it to anyone, not even his wife. We found out about from another sailor who served with him. He spoke about it to my granddad at Ewell's funeral. My granddad was blown away at what his brother went thru during that time. He told me that he never spoke about his service to anyone. He was always proud of his little brother.

@CountingStars333

Жыл бұрын

A true boomer.

@jeebusk

Жыл бұрын

Declared independence from the queen, before another king took over.

@johnthompson9850

10 ай бұрын

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My Dad was on the Saratoga. He kept the machines going on the ship way down deep in the bowels. Like many others who served, he never talked much about his time on board. Movies like this give me an insight into his experiences. Thank you for posting.

@dr.jamesdmartinphd

10 ай бұрын

They used to call the Saratoga "Sorry Sara"

@RelicDog

9 ай бұрын

25 years ago I was visiting in-laws family in Kansas City at Christmas. I asked one older fellow there if he was in the service. He was on the Saratoga in WWII. 26:36 He told me how they sang God Bless America (I think that was it) when then sailed home under the Golden Gate Bridge. A few days later and I’m at my stepfather’s house for Christmas. His Uncle Charlie is there, I ask him if he was in the service. He said he was on a smaller aircraft carrier. I asked him which one - the Saratoga! I asked him what they did when they sailed under the Golden Gate Bridge coming home, he said the deck was packed full of men and everyone was singing God Bless America. But, they didn’t know each other.

@anthonysenatore586

8 ай бұрын

Amen!

@evalinawarne1337

8 ай бұрын

My next door neighbor was on this ship in 1973-75.

@user-nc2bf9vx5y

5 ай бұрын

Bless your dads heart.

My Dad was a Seabee on a CBMU during the war. In his late 80s, I had the great honor of taking him to see the WWIi Navy Memorial across the mall from the Washington Monument while it was being repaired a dozen years ago. He stood against his cane and held back tears while he saluted his lost Navy Brothers. It was a wonderful moment I will never forget.

@user-nc2bf9vx5y

5 ай бұрын

Bless him and you as well.

@robertporch8895

4 ай бұрын

My Dad was a Seebee too. My Uncle his brother was a UDT. They and the other young men who served were some of the greatest in our Countries history. They sacrificed their lives so we might live.

My Dad was on the HMS Indomitable he survived , but died at 50 yrs old , May God Rest hi's soul and all those who gave their lives in the name of Freedom , Amen !

@gregthompson1743

5 жыл бұрын

Sorry for your loss Mr. Gayler. Thank you for your sacrifice as well.

@paulstewart1182

5 жыл бұрын

So are you living in UK?

@erickwan5580

5 жыл бұрын

HMS Indomitable, modified Illustrious-class aircraft carrier of UK. Supported the liberation of Hong Kong on 30 Aug 1945. Remembered by me, a Hongkonger. Lest We Forget.

@jeffsmith2022

3 жыл бұрын

Amen to that sir...

@dannygayler90

3 жыл бұрын

@@paulstewart1182 No Mum & Dad moved out here to Australia in 1949

My friend was a gunner's mate aboard USS Honolulu who survived the attack on Pearl Harbor. He participated in all the big battles alongside the USS Yorktown. All these guys were badasses

The U.S.S. Yorktown (CV-10) is now a museum ship at Patriot's Point, near Charleston, South Carolina. The theater aboard ship is named in honor of Lt. E.T. "Smokey" Stover, one of the Naval Aviators featured in this film. He was lost in the attack on Truk on February 16, 1944.

Thanks so much for sharing I had a brother who died in WWII private 1st class G.W. Maxwell 19 from OK, his classmates called him G, KIA July 17th 1944 after making it through the 1st landing on Omaha Beach June 6, he's buried in Normandy American cemetery!

@perniciouspete4986

2 жыл бұрын

I'm sure you're very proud of him. Hell, I'm proud of him, and he wasn't even my brother.

I'm eternally grateful for the sacrifices made by all the people in this picture

I salute all the souls onboard. What a splendid documentary full of brave, brave lads. I'm sure that there are descendants today, dotted all over the world, who are proud to have had such brave fathers who fought in the battles of the South Atlantic. To them I send my love and prayers from Bonny Scotland.

@criticaltheories5222

7 ай бұрын

*Pacific

Some of the absolute best combat footage I've ever seen. What a phenomenal group effort by our Navy and Marines....

I'm so thankful for the opportunity to watch the brave group of men who operated the great Fighting Lady

5 minutes in and I already know I am watching a timeless classic.

When I saw the title, :The Fighting Lady," I thought this was a Hollywood film. I looked for the stars, and instead saw heroes! Thanks very much for posting this!

The captain was "Jocko" Clark, the first native American to make 4 star Admiral. The ship is the Yorktown, not the Lex. Admiral Clark was kind enough to give me my sword before I received my commission in 1964.

@gregthompson1743

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your service sir!

@paulsuprono7225

5 жыл бұрын

Awesome . . . had never known we ever had a native born flag officer !

@paulsuprono7225

5 жыл бұрын

Amazing . . . had never known we had a native American whom rose to 4 star, with all the abuse, animosity his race experienced, endured !

@guillermoandresromano7632

4 жыл бұрын

Read his story: On the Warpath in the Pacific

I live in South Carolina and visited the USS Yorktown at Patriot's Point in Charleston. I wish I had taken the time to see this before I went. To be honest, to tour this vessel without much interest or knowledge of WW2 or the ship would be dull to most. The ship is understandedly worn down due to age and probably a lack of funding for upkeep. However, if you go there with the right mindset and see the carrier in its historical context it could fascinate you.

The description of what it's like to report aboard a carrier is spot on. It's overwhelming at first. It like no other place I've ever been. After a few weeks it becomes home. We had outstanding chow and I never slept better than I did on board CV-43. The USS Coral Sea.

@harrietharlow9929

2 жыл бұрын

They look awesome! I imagine serving on one would be an unforgettable experience. Thank you for your service.

Academy Award Winning Documentary, The Fighting Lady. The USS Yorktown CV-10 served our nation well. Her men were very young - some not giving their actual age simply to be able to serve, as it was at that time. Imagine... a young seventeen year old sitting upon the gun mount.; the one in charge of parachutes; the photographers assigned to capture the action; the airdales and pilots on the flight deck... yes, imagine. They walk among us today. They have been friends and I thank them, once again.

@user-ed8wc1yr8s

3 жыл бұрын

In 1938, while serving as the director of the special agency for Harbin in Manchuria, he worked on Manchukuo to rescue Jewish refugees who had fled Europe via the Trans-Siberian Railway. The second is the Japanese garrison on Kiska Island, which was on the verge of breaking the jade under the overwhelming siege of the U.S. Army during his tenure as commander of the Northern Army (later the Fifth Area Army) in 1943. Successful "miracle operation" to secretly withdraw a little less than a thousand soldiers. Third, in 1945, he unilaterally abandoned the Soviet-Japanese Neutrality Treaty and entered the war, ordering the Soviet Union forces that continued to invade even after the end of the war, and crushed their ambitions. That is (Hokkaido was hard protected by the victory on the northernmost island of Kita-Kuril Islands, Shumshu Island, and the struggle on Sakhalin).

@CrusaderSports250

2 жыл бұрын

Watch the film "to young the hero" about a very young lad who volunteered, I found it a very powerful film and well worth watching.

@jusb1066

2 жыл бұрын

and imagine citing bone spurs but still getting to be president

@digitaldreamer5481

2 жыл бұрын

I never served on the Fighting Lady but after living in Honolulu all these years, I have met hundreds of wonderful veterans of WWII, especially for toy airplane signings of the exact aircraft they flew in WWII in Pearl Harbor and at the USS Arizona and the National WWII Park Plaza. I’ve been on many Naval ships while in the US Marines and I wouldn’t trade that experience for anything. I’ve gotten to see more countries than I have states and seen things that can’t be share here for sure. I love these old WWII movies and with Memorial Day coming up, it time to make sure my shirt and patches are looking good and smart! Semper Fi to all my old Devil Dogs! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

@ocalaskyhigh

Жыл бұрын

You do realize this was not the USS Yorktown. The year that this ship was commissioned gives away who she was, the USS Lexington, reborn. She was to be the USS Cabot, but after the USS Lexington had to be scuttled after severe battle damage at the Battle of the Coral Sea, the ship builders ask for Cabot to name after the Lexington.

The Skipper "Jocko" was Captain .J.J. Clark from Oklahoma-he later became a 4 star Admiral and was the 1st Native American to graduate from the Naval Academy-he was Cherokee.

@MrStudmouse

4 жыл бұрын

I served in Korea aboard the USSBairoko CVE 115 1952 to 1955 best adventure years in my life

@lucyclimer-kennedy3503

4 жыл бұрын

@Craig Wooldridge Buddy, what are you talking about? Native Americans are called that because they lived in North America before white people settled it. Therefore native (originated from) America (north America, later the united states.)

@thunderbird1921

4 жыл бұрын

Amazing. Thanks for sharing!

@grazzer1673

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrStudmouse Thank you for you service, sir !!!

@grazzer1673

3 жыл бұрын

The indians contributed an amazing amount toward our success in WWII - heroes every one of them!

Great film that gives us a rare valuable glimpse into these amazing times in our counties history. So much on the line and these guys all came through when we needed them most.

@GM8101PHX

2 жыл бұрын

Every high school student should be required to sit through this video to understand the bravery of those heroes that helped keep our nation free!!! The kids need to understand freedom is Never Free especially to those Men that were slid down the plank to their sea burial under the colors!!! We also must remember a chaplain and officer had to visit the parents to inform them their son was not coming home again!!! I am a cold war veteran that did not go through the horrors these guys did. I salute them!!

@EarleALLEN

Жыл бұрын

??? counties history ???

I like the fact that the carrier wasn't directly named. It was a wonderful representation of ALL sailors aboard carriers in the Pacific. Outstanding !

@MW-eb1qh

Жыл бұрын

It was pretty apparent though which CV this was about. The reason it was not specifically named is it was 1943-1944 when this film was made. The name of the carrier was classified as a wartime measure. The war in the Pacific did not end until late 1945.

My dad was a plank holder and I had the pleasure of touring the ship with him in 2011. Since he was a plank holder, the Yorktown Association assigned a member to assist him with movements throughout the ship and then recorded a video interview with him for their archives. He was 87 at the time but that day he was 18 again and reliving long ago memories.

@pepboy310

3 жыл бұрын

I have a piece of the plank that was given to my dad. It has a small plaque on it with he's name.

My neighbor flew in the Pacific theater. He died a few years ago. Another hero lost but never forgotten. We owe so much, deserve so little.

@DrLoverLover

8 ай бұрын

that last is def true

The quality of this transfer from 1944 16mm color film is Exceptional !!! Superb !!! Never seen anything like it. And the narration by Lt. Robert Taylor USNR is also First Rate. I served aboard aircraft carriers from 1964 - 1966 in the Pacific and it was such a treat to see this production by people who obviously care greatly about the content. Thank you.

@sitarnut

5 жыл бұрын

Screw digital... Ektachrome and Kodachrome reveals the true color..... wish emulsion film would come back around.

@rio-impetuoso4271

4 жыл бұрын

I couldn´t find the right words to say it. You did.

@Nighthawke70

4 жыл бұрын

@@sitarnut They tried to get Kodak to do so, but they quit making the chemicals.

@karennapolitano1017

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your service

@CrusaderSports250

2 жыл бұрын

@@sitarnut I so miss kodachrome, unfortunately youngsters today will never have that pleasure and have no idea what they are missing.

My dad was on tthe Big E when this film was made. May God bless everyone that fought for this country. Shalom my brothers and sisters Shalom.

@Peterax788

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you to your Father sir. He truly gave the country the highest degree of courage in those harsh and unforgiving conditions

@Peterax788

3 жыл бұрын

CV-6 is my favourite ships from the 2nd World War 👍🏼🙏🏼

@allandavis8201

3 жыл бұрын

I am glad to be able to say thank you to everyone who fought in WWII, not just for the United States 🇺🇸 but for the world, I salute them, and those serving today and those that will serve and protect us from another war of this intensity and destruction. Lest We Forget. 😀👍🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

Scrappy unfortunately was one of the first of the featured hale and hearty youth in this film to pass. Word has it that he was able to finagle a spot as an observer for the landings on Okinawa and then onboard one of the vessels in Tokyo Bay for the surrender ceremonies. Afterward he was down in Freemantle as the Navy drew down the sub base there. After demobilization he spent time lending a paw on a farm near Zanesville, Ohio. When he died he was cremated and his ashes, as per his wish, were sent through San Diego where the Navy eventually released them to the sea far out in the Pacific.

My grandfather was a Chief Yeoman on a destroyer escort DE 343 U.S.S. Abercrombie, but his ship didn't get into the fight until Leyte Gulf in 44'. His ship's job was to provide an AA screen to protect the aircraft carrier, and also to hunt and sink subs for the same reason. I really appreciate you posting this wonderful video. I've got it saved to watch again.

You can read more about what it was like to be on board Yorktown in a book called "Aircraft Carrier" by J. Bryan III. Not an easy book to find but required reading for anyone curious about what day-to-day life on board an aircraft carrier is like. It was assigned reading for Naval aviation cadets in the University of Texas' ROTC course in the '50s.

As an RAF veteren my main interests are obviously our efforts around the world but you have to respect and admire those brave souls in the pacific who fought valiantly and with pride. I salute them all .

The Russians think America masturbated while they were walking towards Berlin for four years, but without America the war would have ended for them like "The Man in the High Castle." Strong film.

I stand in awe of these sailors, as a retired marine myself. My dad was a sailor in WWII and I always admired all these guys in WWII. Im a baby boomer, so these guys are hero Stus in my eyes. See ya'll in Heaven one day.

@user-ed8wc1yr8s

3 жыл бұрын

In 1938, while serving as the director of the special agency for Harbin in Manchuria, he worked on Manchukuo to rescue Jewish refugees who had fled Europe via the Trans-Siberian Railway. The second is the Japanese garrison on Kiska Island, which was on the verge of breaking the jade under the overwhelming siege of the U.S. Army during his tenure as commander of the Northern Army (later the Fifth Area Army) in 1943. Successful "miracle operation" to secretly withdraw a little less than a thousand soldiers. Third, in 1945, he unilaterally abandoned the Soviet-Japanese Neutrality Treaty and entered the war, ordering the Soviet Union forces that continued to invade even after the end of the war, and crushed their ambitions. That is (Hokkaido was hard protected by the victory on the northernmost island of Kita-Kuril Islands, Shumshu Island, and the struggle on Sakhalin).

@jomon723

2 жыл бұрын

I am same as you, my father was a Merchant Marine, these guys did a great job, I also am a Marine now DOD retired in Okinawa

@onlythewise1

2 жыл бұрын

my dad did to he took air craft carriers to secret location pre ww2

@chinggie2

Жыл бұрын

these heroes liberated Taiwan AND DOZENS OF OTHER LOCATIONS AND WE CONTINUE TO THANK the "greatest Generation" for their preservation of peace and freedom!

@Flussig1

Жыл бұрын

@@jomon723 Thank God for these guys, my father was USN 1945 battle for Okinawa, my son was a Marine and later went to Okinawa. My mother somehow felt comforted by that. Thank you for your service, sir.

It was amazing to be able to tour the Yorktown while visiting Charleston, SC. It is definitely something you should do.

I’m so proud of these young Heroes. I was trying to wipe my tears so I could watch these young Lads and just knowing that they all are putting there lives on the line for all of us! Great great Documentary!

@kballenger53ify

2 жыл бұрын

I Totally Agree With You, Tommy! I Served 4 Years Aboard The USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN-69) As An ABH3 From 1980 - 1984, And This Movie Brings Back Lots Of Memories! To Be Honest With You, Things Really Haven't Changed Very Much As Far As Carrier Ops Are Concerned. Sure They're More Technically Advanced, But The Basics Are Still The Same!!! ⚓

@braininavatnow9197

2 жыл бұрын

They're all dead now....but don't worry... you'll get plenty of opportunities to support more death and destruction...if your lucky some "hero" will drop a bomb on your house killing and mutilating your family.

@braininavatnow9197

2 жыл бұрын

@@kballenger53ify bet you enjoyed all the man on man back door penetration action

@DrLoverLover

8 ай бұрын

you like young lads alot huh?

Thank you so much for putting this movie up for all to see and ponder. And may our Merciful Lord grant eternal rest to all who served aboard the Fighting Lady, and all who served in WW2.

@karennapolitano1017

2 жыл бұрын

Yes and to everybody who served or has ever served or whoever will serve

One of the greatest documentaries I have ever seen. Thanks for this rare film ! Narrated by actor USNR Robert Taylor.

Thank you for not splitting this PD film with ads in the middle. Thanks for putting this here.

@davidnelson3150

7 жыл бұрын

get Adblock.... haven't had to worry about any ads.

@snowman374th

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for acknowledging the Ad problem. Do us all a favor, or at least me, and join the community kick em out team. No sign up or fee. Just be. And do. When more than one Ad is in video REPORT that video. If the channel uploader does all their videos this away, REPORT their channel for it. And I wish they wouldn't impose the watch me first option. But they do that out of stupidity thinking they will get paid if we watch the Ad. Or hoping we click by accident. What they don't THINK about is, they have to watch the Ad to get paid for that click & view. Otherwise they only get paid when their own video is rolling. Not idle or paused. Rolling. Perhaps this uploader knows this.

so much history in CV-5. I visit CV-10 and I get goose bumps thinking off all the men who gave their lives to keep piece throughout the world. I know am in Spartanburg South Carolina and CV-10 is anchored in Charleston harbor about 4 hours away.

@GwenC628

Жыл бұрын

The Fighting Lady is the CV-10.

RIP! Smoky! Your an American hero... as are all of our service men and women, especially those that make the ultimate sacrifice.

@user-cv6kv2qu7m

3 жыл бұрын

Молоток товарищь ! Зачетный комент !!

@jamesellis7722

3 жыл бұрын

A! Am pp

@combathistoryoverloaded6738

3 жыл бұрын

Smoky was reportedly captured by the Japanese and executed by them in the POW camps

Thank you for this very respectful video about our fighting lady's history and I offer my gratitude and admiration to all the sailors that had to fight our various war regardless of their national allegiance. We are all human beings that fought for what we believed in. Will all due respect, Ciao L (an American Veteran Naval Officer).

@paulsuprono7225

2 жыл бұрын

Hand Salute . . . Ready Front 🇺🇸

@robertmorrison2123

2 жыл бұрын

Are you serious. I have found little to respect in the Axis military.

@lancelot1953

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertmorrison2123 Hi Robert, I am serious but with this remark - most people that have to fight wars (soldiers/sailors/airmen...) and the civilians that suffer through them (bombings, genocide, torture...) are usually not the ones that start/started those wars. I met some former enemies and was surprised (if not shocked) to find out that they had families, friends, religion (same as mine actually, Catholic), values, principles, ... They had joined their respective armed forces for the same reasons I had joined the Navy (I am a Baby Boomer, serving two years was part of our upbringing back then). Every country has some "bad guys", some worse than others but when it comes down to it, you fight to defend your "brother-at-arm". War is a tragedy, no matter which side you are on and sadly enough, many of our leaders (worldwide) have not served, let alone faced combat. Again, I am not excusing the Axis forces but amidst them, there were some "humans" like you and me that had been dragged into a conflict they never wanted. Peace be with you, Ciao, L

@davidforsythe3037

Жыл бұрын

This Canadian thanks you Sir

Great documentary. I served on the carrier Coral Sea, as a cook.those poor mess cranks worked hard. Such brave men,combat looks like hell for both sides.

“Pappy” Boynton, the commander of the black sheep squadron was bring held prisoner on Truk during the filing and attack…He said you can briefly see the pit they were tossed into by a Japanese soldier during the raid…They were tied up and if the soldier didn’t push them into cover they would have probably been killed.

The 🔥 fire power was awesome. Jocko the commander was perfect. My father was in the original Air Corps in the Pacific theater. He died in 1975 so I never was old enough to thank him. God Bless him and all the other men and women who fought. This generation was truly the greatest. These men would be disgusted with today's generation

@debrakleid5752

3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately true especially with how many react to the pandemic. This is my parents generation but my dad was too young for WW2

@JohnS916

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe throw a little of that disgust at our deranged so-called leader for conspiring with dictators in his image and liking. He has no respect for our military, only pretends so. While he hired a quack doctor to issue him a weak deferment during Vietnam, I enlisted. For that and how he addressed John McCain, his failure to attend funeral ceremonies at a French cemetery where 1,800 of our fighting men were interned after WWI. He came up with a feeble excuse, but the Secret Service said there was no reason why he couldn't attend as every other American official did, but Trump said otherwise, "why would I want to go there, it's filled with losers and suckers". I've asked myself a hundred times why any veteran would support him, he is only interested where his malignant narcissism takes him. If it's not money or adulation, he's not interested.

@ChitFromChinola

2 жыл бұрын

Actually, the greatest generation is proud of today’s servicemen and women. Americans stand tall together.

@GM8101PHX

2 жыл бұрын

@@debrakleid5752 My Dad also was too young, he was 13 during 1943, but he served and retired from the Air Force as a Master Sergeant E-7, I followed him and served 6 years in the Air Force, nothing compared to this video, I am a veteran, but not a hero such as those in World War II. I salute them all!!!!

@debrakleid5752

2 жыл бұрын

@@GM8101PHX thank you for your service. I enlisted in 2001 in the Air For e but had to get out due to medical reasons. And no way would I be able to be in now as my health has gone downhill since then by a lot. My dad served 26 years (6 years Marine Corp and hated it and 20 years Air Force). He retired as a Major after going to college on the GI Bill and getting his Bachelors and Masters degree. He served in Thailand during the Vietnam War and was possibly exposed to agent orange and he died on 02-23-21 from AML which is an aggress form of leukemia and is linked to agent orange. Some of the most treasured possessions I have from him is the US flag that was draped over his coffin as well as his ribbons and medals that he had already put in a shadow box. I would rather have that than any monetary inheritance. My dad witnessed his best friend get killed in Vietnam when the plane they were flying in was hit and shot down. They couldn’t make it to the runway. When my dad got to the wreckage he found his best friend decapitated. Like someone commented above my dad and everyone who who has served are heroes. Not the orange clown who called them losers and suckers and refusing to go to the cemetery to honor the fallen of WW1. My dad had actually enlisted for the Marines during the Korean War but never served in the war zone. Thank your dad for me for his service and thank you for your service. After I got out I worked as a paramedic for 10 years before becoming an RT in a hospital.

1:00:14 I've seen this a number of times, but it still hits hard when you see the faces of those pilots who were KIA. How young they were! Dying young isn't merely dying, but it's to lose so much a part of life. Contrary to Hollywood's portrayal of them, most WW2 servicemen were kids like those pilots.

@bigsparky8888

2 жыл бұрын

RAIN IS STILL MADE ON MY FACE OF THOSE THAT SERVED...RIP MEN...THE SEA WILL GIVE UP ITS DEAD....SOON...2022...READ REVELATION 18...It is the WTC of 9/11 in 2001...Babylon was used as example of the largest city on Earth when John penned Revelation on Patmos....now over 20 years ago...WHAT TIME IS IT NOW??!!!!

@mrs.dungplopper404

Жыл бұрын

So sad they were committed to the deep 6 🦑🐙🐠⚓ , so relatives didn't even have a body to bury ⚰️ or a grave to decorate with flowers 💐🌺🌹on Decoration Day! 😩💔

@GwenC628

Жыл бұрын

@@mrs.dungplopper404 The USS Yorktown CV-5 sank not the The Fighting Lady shown above which is the USS Yorktown CV-10. There were survivors of the CV-5.

@user-nc2bf9vx5y

5 ай бұрын

They were high schoolers, indeed. And as a recently retired educator, I will always love them.

Greg "Pappy" Boyington, Famed USMC aviator, creator and leader of the Black Sheep squadron, was to have said that in this film you see him, just after being captured. He was under guard with other POWs, being taken from a plain on an airfield that came under attack. He was one of the tiny dots that dove into a ditch to avoided gun fire and it's captured on the gun camera used in this film.

@hisgross

Жыл бұрын

I appreciate you sharing that.

My dad served aboard the see vee 10 as 40mm aa gunner at. 7th division 2nd section. Starboard side at the island. He spoke fondly of the Yorktown and crew. I got to visit her at Patriots Point SC near Charleston. I got to see many places he recalled from memory like the gedunk etc. he was a plank owner also.

The Marcus Island raid used the Essex CV-9, Yorktown CV-10 and CVL Independence. Truk used 5 fleet carriers: Enterprise CV-6, Yorktown CV-10, Essex CV-9, Intrepid CV-11 and Bunker Hill CV-17; also used were 4 light carriers: Belleau Wood CVL-24, Cabot CVL-28, Monterey CVL-26 and Cowpens CVL-25.

@robertculbreth694

5 жыл бұрын

Cowpens.....my hometown

@johnippolito8100

2 жыл бұрын

My father as on the Belleau Wood CVL-24 a Independence-class aircraft carrier, saw a lot of this action Honors and awards Presidential Unit Citation 12 battle stars USS Belleau Wood (CVL-24) - Wikipedia

I thank you for pointing out the unsung heroes. I never faced this sort of crap, but was a Naval Nuclear Reactor operator on a sub - somewhat "glamorous". But if not for our usually great cooks, and people like our storekeepers who made sure that the little luxuries we had on shore were usually there for us, life would have been miserable. If our sub got hit, they die with the rest of us. I knew that, they knew that. THey deserve the same recognition as anyone.

@karennapolitano1017

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your service and this little part of you that you have shared with people

@georgen9755

11 ай бұрын

Navy nuclear reactor operator ...................., ......... Nuclear weapons fighting lady making our lives miserable

@user-nc2bf9vx5y

5 ай бұрын

You and they all matter.

@pdoylemi

5 ай бұрын

@@user-nc2bf9vx5y Thank you.

I can not imagine how difficult it must have been to land on a flat top at night even under very good conditions...those men who were assigned to the torpedo bombers really had it exceptionally rough to say the least...

Interesting. As a microbiologist myself I was surprised to see that they had the flight crew shower before combat to minimize infections from wounds. They really thought of everything!

@diannaurbigkit2673

Жыл бұрын

I salute you sir!

A very impressive film, and a fine tribute to so many brave lads of my late father's generation. He served in the Royal Navy, a gunner on convoy escorts, including PQ17, the 'Convoy to Hell'. (Three ships came home out of thirty six which sailed for Archangel and Murmansk) It is sobering to see the planes going down - you are actually seeing people die in those shots, don't forget, people no different to you and me - and they burn far differently to the movie make believe stunt shots. "Lest we forget". (The first true aircraft carrier, incidentally, was HMS 'Argus', a converted merchant ship, during the Great War. I won't swear as to who had the first carrier designed as a carrier from the keel up.)

@vb6552

Жыл бұрын

The soldier who sank an aircraft carrier for the first time in world military history is a Turkish officer. his name is Mustafa Ertuğrul Aker

@krashd

Жыл бұрын

Argus was the first carrier but not first true carrier, you said it yourself that it was a convert. The first true carrier was HMS Hermes, purpose built after Argus proved the concept.

I salute you brave American WWII soldiers.....SAAAAAAAAALUTE!!! Probably not too many of you still living but these movies will live on forever...

He says you may not love her, etc.. Correction, we most certainly did love our ship, even when we hated her. I went in the navy a little more than 20 years after this film. Most of the navy was very similar, enough that we could be put on those ships and fit right in. I qualified on the US Navy Colt 45 service revolver, the M1 Garand and 12 gage pump shotgun and I was extremely good with them. I also went to gunnery school to learn the 3 in 50 radar controlled autoloader on an open double gun mount and the 5in 38 enclosed single gun mount. I spent 2 years in the Mediterranean Sea going to general quarters this is no drill many times. During the Israel Six Day War we were stationed right in the middle of it all 13 miles off the coast of Egypt. At one point it got very close to an all out battle with the Russians and Egypt. We could have taken any of the fighters, but the Russian light and heavy cruisers and destroyers, not so much. This went on for several days and the entire crew was perfectly calm. We were the only US Navy ship permanently stationed in the Med, home port Naples, Italy. We were extremely well trained and tested in other conflicts and hot spots. It's so funny, when I was over there I dreamt of home and now I'm home dreaming of over there, we are such a strange species. Thomas

@33joiner

6 жыл бұрын

a Colt 45 service revolver? do you mean the semi 1911?

@adamscott7354

2 жыл бұрын

@@33joiner US Navy Colt service revolver is, a REVOLVER, still in use by 46, so likely not fully phased out for another few years

My uncle was on CV-20 USS Bennington. He was a great guy and we still have all his pictures and yearbook. He had some great stories. The most funny were the ingenious ways they used alcohol. They drank aftershave, and he sold shots. I always enjoyed hearing him tell of life on the carrier, air combat, and looking at the pictures. This video is great because it shows what life was like on an aircraft carrier of the day. The comments by psycho haters are everywhere. Drop dead or get a life.

@anthonythomas1735

2 жыл бұрын

Well said my friend, people have forgotten why we call them the greatest generation, I will never forget. The stories passed on into your life by what sounds like a great man, will be cherished by your children when you tell them.

@foobarmaximus3506

Жыл бұрын

My grandpappy was on CV-1. That's minus one. He was just that far ahead of everyone else.

@RetiredSailor60

Жыл бұрын

I have a Zippo Lighter from the USS Bennington. I found it at a flea market in Oakland CA in 1984.

@sainttimothy2230

7 ай бұрын

😊❤

@krismurphy7711

6 ай бұрын

If you ever post the video, please reply. My Dad was a Dentist on the Bennington.

Superbly photographed under difficult conditions, and Technicolor did an excellent job on the blowup to 35mm.

Enjoyed it. There was a lot of battle footage I had never seen before like shooting down the Emily seaplane.

Masterpiece .. awesome , beautiful... thanks for sharing this chunk of history ..

AN OUTSTANDING production!!! Real American Service Personnel !!!! Real aircraft battle scenes!!!! Real Naval gunnery !!!! Real Beach landings !!!! And of course, REAL COURAGE and determination of all who were involved with this film!!! This is a GEM!!!

@DrLoverLover

8 ай бұрын

And real men making love to real men. As it was before libs destroyed it

My Dad was in the Pacific on the USS Raby DE698 i can remember the stories he told. Dads been gone since 2010 sure do wish I had listened to those stories a little more now

53:26 my grandfather lived near the canal outside the military zone he is Panamanians at that time he was 12 years old he loved to see the ships and war planes What he told me impressed me, he told me about airplanes with a red spot. I am lucky to have him alive .

my brother served in the Midway, until they decommission her, my son did 4 years on the Great ship Nimitz, the Navy is not the same any more that's for sure . God bless those man and woman that fought in the war.

Thank you for making this film available. Though our family got a couple of chances to spend a few hours aboard the Forestall CV-59 for Dependents' holiday festivities, those were only tiny glimpses of life shipboard. Our Dad, James D. "Pug" March, had crewed as an Aviation Chief Ordnanceman's Mate from late Spring 1941 on the USS Hornet CV-8, helped arm the B-25 bombers for Colonel Doolittle's raid pm the Japanese home islands, thru the ship's last day in the Battle of the Santa Cruz Islands October, 1942. When a Japanese Val bomber crashed into the Hornet's signal bridge and its bomb plunged thru five decks, that bomb ended up intact and unexploded in a compartment near the crew where my Dad and some of his division mates were fighting fires. They got some timbers, then he sent the others away, and went alone into the compartment where the unexploded bomb had been rolling with the swells and smacking against the bulkheads. Once he'd secured the thing and stopped its rolling, he went back to fighting fires. _A decade after he died at age 81, I found on a memorial page for the ship and all the men who had served. The site listed 35 sailors, officers and pilots who had been awarded the _*_Navy Cross_*_ for their actions in the Hornet's brief service. My father was one of only five who survived to receive his medal, one of the so-called "black widow" crosses._ A lot of combat veterans are like him. They seem to be much less interested in talking about combat, than stories of the friends they made and the crazy things they did to blow off steam on leave.

@user-nc2bf9vx5y

5 ай бұрын

Wow. So glad that he was awarded this.

Bravo!!!!! To the memories of all the American and foreign personnel involved in that courageous and Treacherous war, you are not forgotten!!!

@butchyshoe

4 жыл бұрын

not forgotten but i wish i could have meet them

Lt Smokey 'wanting to get back up in the air' even though it was far safer where he was - he wanted to be up there putting bullets into the enemy and risking bullets going into him. Sadly bullets going into him is what he ended up getting. These days, people would just take the easy way out.

I served on the Yorktown in 1960 and a lot had changed, that I could see in this great film. I was a IC electrican and I would show the film The Fighting Lady on the hanger deck. It was a great ship.

@TheFlutecart

2 жыл бұрын

I served on the Lady Lex CV (AVT) 16. Essex Class like the Yorktown. Also an IC Electrician. 89-91 on the Lex and 91-93 on Normandy CG-60.

@jazamaraz8029

2 жыл бұрын

@Evan Emmett. Thank you for your service. My dad served aboard this ship in WWII. I think he was responsible for the telephone system on the ship. He past away about 20 years ago.

What a grimming video. To all the souls lost in the war, all those who lived through the war. My salute. 🙏

This film is awesome. I have never seen most of this footage before. Amazing.

Great documentary. Thank You to all who fought then, later and now.

Sir, you are watching this movie under much better conditions than you first saw it because of the very sacrifices that you and other men (and women) made during WW2 to keep our nation free. I thank you.

Thank you for posting!

I served on the flight deck crew on the USS Randolph CVS 15 in 1968 thru decommissioning and then transferred in 1969 to the USS Yorktown CVS 10 and made the trip around the horn to VA. This was a dangerous place to work but I made it.

Such an honor to be buried at sea from the deck of a mighty war ship. Even more of an honor to be able to grow up among these great men. The very reason that led to my eight years served in the US Navy when my time came. Blessed to have been born and lived in the golden years of our great nation.

@mariomies15

Жыл бұрын

Deutsch

WOW!!!! Thank you for uploading this! Great video!

This movie and Flat Top are probably my favorite movies of all time. I watched in awe at the successful carrier landing with one elevator, they didn't show it only the plane that made it. But still, your already fighting for pitch on a regular carrier landing, in sims 1000s of hours I have never made one missing elevator landing, close many times, luck.

That old adage, any landing you can walk away from is a good landing, certainly applied to some of the landings in this documentary.

Incredible! Teamwork, intelligence, ability, courage, ... How the wind blows on their trousers attracted me, specially. Nature, the sea, ... are amazingly beautiful. May God grant us to enjoy life and the earth, living in peace with one another.

My father flew an sbd dauntless dive bomber during the war. Always a kick seeing them in the old footage

This is an excellent video! I had two uncles that were in the Navy, one in the war in the Pacific, and one in the war in the Mediterranean. The greatest generation. I learned so much from them, and at times, not enough. I salute the fallen, there and wherever after they have fallen. They have given the greatest sacrifice for our country, willingly. To me, these men are heroes, men that I should fashion my life after.

@terryrussel3369

2 жыл бұрын

As should we all. My dad and his two brothers served in the ETO and the Pacific. I wish I had been more interested when I was young and asked a hell of a lot more questions of ALL the members of my family who rose to the call at home and abroad. Mom turned 7 a few months before Dec. 7th. The one thing she remembers about that day was how EVERYONE grew up almost overnight. The time is upon us right now to be tested again as our country was tested then, but with even more at stake! . . . Let's make them all proud.

This was this evening's movie for me. Thank you for sharing!

Mostly a tincan sailor for 20 years, but i did serve 3 years on a carrier, USS Saratoga CV-60, 1982-1985.

@saveriosalemme5366

4 жыл бұрын

balerick48 I worked for the USO in Naples Italy a frequent port of call for the Saratoga in the early 80’s.

@allenhelderman1134

4 жыл бұрын

balerick48 Thank you for your sacrifices and service to our country. Without people such as yourself The United States would not exist. God Bless you! You are a hero to many millions of people for being the best part of our country and for protecting our Freedom!

@brucetucker4847

3 жыл бұрын

@@foobarmaximus3506 It was less than thirty years old then. USS _Nimitz_ is 45 years old this year and still good for a few more years.

I have been to the Yorktown museum In Charleston. It was so amazing, the ship is a piece of art.

Minor item in introduction. A-24 was USAAC designation for Dauntless. Navy/Marines used SBD. Not really important but more correct.

The original Yorktown cv5, Enterprise cv6, & Hornet cv8 were all 3 Yorktown class carriers built in 1936. The Yorktown was nick named "The Fighting Lady" in honor of Eleanor Roosevelt who had christened and launched her in 1937. The origional Yorktown Cv5 was lost at midway. Both the Yorktown and Enterprise names were used on newer Essex class carriers later.

I was but a modest Navy League Cadet. These docu-dramas are a tribute, and thank you,

Historically significant and in Technicolor no less, a big plus for modellers, great upload. Cheers.

My Grandfather was on the USS YorkTown CVA and CVS 10. not kidding!!!