The Ferrari V8 Engined Thema 8.32 Is Italy’s Craziest Car! Lancia 8.32

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The Lancia Thema 8.32 It was more expensive yet worse than other Lancia Themas. Why then was it made? Why did Lancia decide to put a Ferrari engine in a front drive saloon car? In this episode we will explore these questions, take it for a drive and see if is as much of a flop as some say.
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  • @lqr824
    @lqr82411 ай бұрын

    They should have continued this... imagine a 355-powered Multipla, etc.

  • @zloychechen5150

    @zloychechen5150

    11 ай бұрын

    a panda sf90

  • @lqr824

    @lqr824

    11 ай бұрын

    @@zloychechen5150 Nissan actually put the GT-R R35 powertrain in the little SUV, I think called the Juke!

  • @MrMoonlee1

    @MrMoonlee1

    11 ай бұрын

    😂😂😂😂

  • @princesssolace4337

    @princesssolace4337

    11 ай бұрын

    How much that Multipla gonna cost? Multi££ I'm guessing

  • @tacodias

    @tacodias

    11 ай бұрын

    The Múltipla is one of my favorite Italian cars. Too bad most of them were diesels. If they had fit a Múltipla with the 20V Turbo engine would be magical

  • @asensibleyoungman2978
    @asensibleyoungman297811 ай бұрын

    £37,500 in 1986 would be £104,494 in today's money according to the Bank of England inflation calculator.

  • @philiptownsend4026

    @philiptownsend4026

    11 ай бұрын

    And worth every penny.

  • @asensibleyoungman2978

    @asensibleyoungman2978

    11 ай бұрын

    @@philiptownsend4026 You think?

  • @TheAsa1972

    @TheAsa1972

    11 ай бұрын

    @@asensibleyoungman2978 They would sell like Hot cakes today

  • @Lemma01

    @Lemma01

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@TheAsa1972 Tongue firmly in cheek 😂

  • @jo05dk
    @jo05dk11 ай бұрын

    I remember when Lancia launched this. Reading reviews of it, having my mind blown by how cool of a concept it is. I miss the days of crazy, or at least somewhat exciting, engines in regular cars. Even down to V6 versions of a Vectra, Xantia, and - for me especially - the type 43 and 44 Audis with their five cylinder engines. Because the 8.32 scores astonishingly high on the nuts engine in a regular car scale, it will always have a special place in my heart. Thanks for the reminder :)

  • @winstonwolfe5733

    @winstonwolfe5733

    11 ай бұрын

    Xantia activa V6 was a hell of a car. The r21 turbo quadra and the mighty accord typeR as well.

  • @kmatheson-mclaughlin7310
    @kmatheson-mclaughlin731011 ай бұрын

    I vaguely recall reading the fact the engine was assembled at the Ducati factory in Bologna.

  • @user-ch1pm3xo3j
    @user-ch1pm3xo3j11 ай бұрын

    Hello Jack. Thanks for a great review of my 8.32. As we discussed on the day, despite how the 8.32 compared to it's contemporaries in it's day it's a fanatstic car to own and drive today. If anyone out there is thinking about having Jack do a video of their car I can confirm Jack is a true and genuine enthusiast and will treat your car with care and respect.

  • @peterbrown6224

    @peterbrown6224

    11 ай бұрын

    Thank you for showing us your car. The interior looks beautiful, and it's a head-turner from the outside too.

  • @SA-zoom1

    @SA-zoom1

    11 ай бұрын

    Lovely car m8. As a kid I remember regularly seeing a white one with Ferrari badges, being driven very fast all over town!

  • @nigel.w

    @nigel.w

    11 ай бұрын

    In today's context, I think it's a more interesting classic car proposition than most if not all its contemporaries. In its day I'd probably have chosen a V12 Jag, but today probably one of these, and they're not too expensive to buy. And I'd imagine not that bad to run, either, unless something goes wrong with the engine, or you need interior trim.

  • @bobibest89
    @bobibest8910 ай бұрын

    My dad used to have a Fiat Croma gen.1. This Lancia really reminds me of that car. Brings good memories.

  • @simonhodgetts6530
    @simonhodgetts653011 ай бұрын

    I love the Thema (all versions) - one of the last great Lancias - wonderfully understated Giugiaro styling, classy interior, and then 2 mighty engines - the 2 litre turbo - and this wonderful example of Italian madness!!

  • @mehrzahl2219

    @mehrzahl2219

    11 ай бұрын

    Didn't it have the Busso V6 as well?

  • @simonhodgetts6530

    @simonhodgetts6530

    11 ай бұрын

    @@mehrzahl2219 it did indeed - I stand corrected! *3* mighty engines……oh, and the PRV……..

  • @mehrzahl2219

    @mehrzahl2219

    11 ай бұрын

    @@simonhodgetts6530 did not know about the PRV. Madness!!

  • @RUfromthe40s

    @RUfromthe40s

    11 ай бұрын

    i didn´t found yet a Lancia K coupé in good condition but last summer i bought a perfect, looking new ALFA ROMEU 164 2.0L twin cam boxer engine i only knew the turbo version with more horse power but this was looking and felt new ,it´s a hell of a car with a 2.0L inline engine

  • @martsteegh4122

    @martsteegh4122

    11 ай бұрын

    @@RUfromthe40s I don't know where you live, but here in the Netherlands there are still some quite nice ones available (in every enige set-up: the 5 cylinder 2.4, the Turbo (both the 4 and the 5 cylinder, (which is the fastest Lancia ever made) and the 3.0 V6

  • @deepred6502
    @deepred650211 ай бұрын

    Been waiting for this one. The 8.32 was mostly about the Ferrari-powered bragging rights - in fact Enzo Ferrari himself owned one towards the end of his life. And the Saab 9000 which used the same Type 4 platform was tested with a prototype 4.0L V8.

  • @MarioRossi-hm2jb

    @MarioRossi-hm2jb

    10 ай бұрын

    It is true that Enzo Ferrari owned one. About this car there is a legend.....They say that Enzo Ferrari complained that 215 Hp were not enough! He called the chief engineer at Maranello plant and they tuned a V8 with an output of 250 Hp for his Thema. Gianni Agnelli, boss of Fiat Group, had a 8.32 Station Wagon (one only) especially built for him, painted in special grey tone and blue leather interior.

  • @katywalker8322
    @katywalker832211 ай бұрын

    I spent 15 months working in Belgium in the late 1990s. One was for sale locally from a dealer. I was very tempted!

  • @patrickhostler5939
    @patrickhostler593911 ай бұрын

    In comparison to almost everything at the time, the car was clearly out classed … but in isolation, today, it’s a wonderful thing that deserves to be celebrated and enjoyed ❤

  • @futurecat
    @futurecat11 ай бұрын

    Thank you, Jack! You and JayEmm are my favorite youtube presenters. A new video is always a cheer.

  • @resnonverba137

    @resnonverba137

    11 ай бұрын

    5/6/23 @ 1917. How is this comment shown as being from 9 days ago when this video was uploaded 2 hours ago?

  • @dmode2793

    @dmode2793

    11 ай бұрын

    @@resnonverba137 Something fishy going on.

  • @JayEmmOnCars

    @JayEmmOnCars

    11 ай бұрын

    @@dmode2793 My guess - this is the owner and got a sneak preview of the video

  • @resnonverba137

    @resnonverba137

    11 ай бұрын

    @@JayEmmOnCars This doesn't feel like the sort of comment an owner would write after seeing his car being tested.

  • @JayEmmOnCars

    @JayEmmOnCars

    11 ай бұрын

    @@resnonverba137 You'd be amazed, though I can speak from experience when I say I have had lots of people somehow find videos that were not publicly listed. I seem to recall KZread would still show them in playlists! In any case, it's nothing sneaky on Jack's part I am sure

  • @Landshark928
    @Landshark92811 ай бұрын

    1:18 Maserati built by then the 430 (Biturbo) and the bombastic Quattroporte 4.9 so there was a certain alernative. Very nice sleeper though this 8.32😊

  • @mohammadzein504
    @mohammadzein50411 ай бұрын

    I was thinking this is a totally bonkers and pointless collab with a price tag to match! Until you did a pull and I heard that engine! Although it really can't contend with what other manufacturers were offering. But that engine is spectacular and makes it special in its own unique way! The Thema is remarkable in a very piculiar way Jack Sir👏👍👍

  • @louiemalvessi
    @louiemalvessi11 ай бұрын

    In Brazil they made a saloon version of the Uno called the Fiat Premio. It looks so much like the Thema. It's hard to look at ithe Lancia now and see it for what it really is.

  • @oldguy9051
    @oldguy905111 ай бұрын

    I can't help myself but l love those collabs between manufacturers, like this (which was unknown to me - so, thanks!), the Citroen SM and of course the Lotus Carlton/Omega.

  • @ryanmccormick2150
    @ryanmccormick215011 ай бұрын

    Im so pleased you've put so much time and effort into Number 27 Jack! Its an excellent channel and i always enjoy watching buddy 👏👍

  • @Number27

    @Number27

    11 ай бұрын

    Thank you old chap!!

  • @marcelhandsome6042
    @marcelhandsome604211 ай бұрын

    I'm hoping Stellantis relaunch a successor for this! The engine and Alcantara rosewood interior are outstanding! It would be interesting to see a review of the Lancia Kappa or Thesis (imported one) as they were never sold in the UK.

  • @GTDpowah

    @GTDpowah

    11 ай бұрын

    I wouldn't hedge my bets on that too much. If they redo the Thema, it will be another rebadge of C300 or some bullcrap like that.

  • @federicomalignani4957
    @federicomalignani495711 ай бұрын

    Ciao Giacomo!!!! My dad bought one of these,in 1987,and when he passed away in 1992 he still had it. He really fell in love with the 8:32 and at that time,I was a very lucky boy because I had the opportunity to drive it on Saturday nights,mostly to dine and go to the disco with a pretty girl.... And belive me,at that time in Italy,it was considered (also by the girls) better than a Porsche!!! The Thema Ferrari was a real icon,the roar of the engine was a real symphony,even better than that produced by the same engines on the 308s and the Mondials. You described this car perfectly. It was a car to be driven in the autostrada or on normal roads with great fun,but was not supposed to be driven on track. I remember a funny episode:one evening,I was waiting for the green of a traffic light,in my town. On my side stopped a Carabinieri blue and white Alfa 75. It was summer they had the windows open as me,and they told me: "Please,when the light turns to green,can you make a fast start so that we can hear the engine?" I answered:"Sure I can but only if you don't stop me for a fine at the next traffic light..." I did the start and then stopped the car before the next traffic light.They were happy to see the car and they loved the retractable wing....As you told, it was not the best car in the world,but was a special one,and for me unforgettable.

  • @studiocalder818
    @studiocalder81811 ай бұрын

    I remember at that time I was reading Car, a journalist commented that the Lancia Thema model was a great build and road quality car and wondered why they only sold about 1.5 a day in the UK

  • @dosgos
    @dosgos11 ай бұрын

    I drove a Thema for a weekend. It was a pretty good car overall. Not incredible. Totally understated. The owner said it was expensive to maintain.

  • @johnvender
    @johnvender11 ай бұрын

    Back in the 70s and 80s the local pharmacist where I lived had two Fulvias, the more common coupe and the Zagato hatchback with the hexagonal headlight surrounds, both beautiful cars. My mother had a Beta HPE for some years, a very quirky car that I talked her into buying. The HPE really needed a regular Italian tune up for the engine to work properly.

  • @philiptownsend4026

    @philiptownsend4026

    11 ай бұрын

    Ah beautiful Lancias. I had a later one - a Delta HF Turbo - It had basically the same engine as your mum's car - I loved it, my first fuel injected, turbo, ECU car - a revelation to me. I loved it. For me the first considerations about a car are engine, transmission and brakes, other considerations are incidental so long as the car will do it's job.

  • @studiocalder818

    @studiocalder818

    11 ай бұрын

    Why do you consider it a quirky car? I find it sporty-elegant-practical-emotional. A girlfriend of mine had it second hand in the late 80s and we made fantastic trips around Europe. Everywhere he met attention

  • @johnvender

    @johnvender

    11 ай бұрын

    @@studiocalder818 It had everything you say but also issues like strange noises when driving it no mechanic could find the cause of, problem going around corners quickly when the oil would go to one end of the sump resulting in oil pressure dropping to 0 for a moment, the need to redline it several times after a week or two of normal driving to get the engine running like it should and not like there is something seriously wrong with it. The build quality was also third rate, when it was only a week old the spot welds holding one of the rear side windows let go and the dealer's mechanic fixed it using rivets and when it was one month old the main wiring loom which was rubbing against the steering column shorted because insulation wore through resulting in the whole dash catching on fire and needing to be replaced.

  • @albertperks3476
    @albertperks347611 ай бұрын

    I remember when that came arrived and reading about it in Autocar. It was difficult not to be wowed by it given that engine and that spoiler and its action is just wonderful. Great that they're still around a real curio!

  • @global_nomad.
    @global_nomad.11 ай бұрын

    thanks for bringing us another quirky classic...

  • @taunuslunatic404
    @taunuslunatic40411 ай бұрын

    I have a 1988 issue of Autopista (a Spanish car magazine) where they matched up a Thema 8.32 against a Sierra Cosworth. They are very different despite having similar power. The Sierra is more brutal and more sporty whereas the Thema is more of a grand tourer.

  • @IwillBwaiting
    @IwillBwaiting11 ай бұрын

    Owned a 2.8 V6 back in the day, and always had this in mind mainly for the alcantara everywhere, the engine of course and last but in all honestly the most important gadget; the pop up spoiler on the boot.

  • @lukecarruthers
    @lukecarruthers11 ай бұрын

    Thanks for having a proper go in an 8:32 Jack. Great to see a good drive/review vid of one of these filmed on UK roads. There are some interesting ones out there but mostly filmed in Italy and as you say very, very few cars reached the UK. I think I'm right in saying that those prized "Lancia by Ferrari" engines were actually built (in parts anyway) by Ducati. Always had a liking for the 9000/Croma/164/Thema and this is quite a "Q car" which I'm always going to love.

  • @kimmorgan379
    @kimmorgan37911 ай бұрын

    A me piace molto! Turns fuel into noise and drama but soooo entertaining, like the Alfas I've driven. Hard not to fall in love...

  • @cornishrider
    @cornishrider11 ай бұрын

    Thanks for finding such interesting and entertaining cars to review. Absolutely fantastic sounding V8 and I was always a fan of the Thema despite having numerous SAAB 9000's instead, imagine that engine in the 9000!

  • @thisiszaphod

    @thisiszaphod

    11 ай бұрын

    You'll know of the Saab 9000 V8, then. Just the one, mind.

  • @cvandenhaute
    @cvandenhaute11 ай бұрын

    My dad had a Lancia Dedra in the early 90’s. His dealer had one in the shop that seemed to spend a lot of time there, I loved the way it sounded each time they started it. It should not work but it truly looks special, especially in that dark red color

  • @smhorse
    @smhorse11 ай бұрын

    Had the 8.32 been available down under, the Aussies would probably have worked out a way to convert it to right-hand-drive.

  • @chriswoods789
    @chriswoods78911 ай бұрын

    Another great video Jack, the soundtrack from that engine would be enough alone to justify adopting that! Great stuff, keep it up.

  • @colinpryke8871
    @colinpryke887111 ай бұрын

    I remember seeing this at the London Motor Show when it was brand new and thought that the engine looked amazing. Lancia had it displayed with the bonnet up to show the engine off and it wasn't roped off so you could walk right up to it. I've often looked these up over the years to see how much they go for and they held their values consistently well in comparison to other hot saloon cars of that era such as the Sierra Cosworth that became almost worthless at one point, although it may be lacking a bit behind lately!

  • @MarkHey
    @MarkHey11 ай бұрын

    Back in the day I won a journey given out by the car magazine MOT of Motorpresse Stuttgart. We were picked up at our home near Frankfurt in a FIAT Croma Turbo, which was the sister of the Thema and drove down to Italy, all the way using the nicest roads , mountain passes and so on. A real joy ride. We stayed in a hotel in the Piemont and from there visited the production plants of FIAT and Lancia. The best part was the plant were they built the Thema 8.32, basically by hand, since the exquisite Interieur and the special drivetrain needed specialists to install. We were accompanied by FIAT's head of communications, and had the chance to see secret developments and drive secret projects. But the best part to me was the fact that i asked the man for a 8.32 original badge as a souvenir. He looked around for a shelf with parts, but they were evidently counted and rare, so he took one of a new car that was about to be rolling out. He smiled like a scholboy and gave it to me to smuggle it out.....

  • @corvettenyc72op21
    @corvettenyc72op2111 ай бұрын

    I remember when that car was introduced, i went to see it at a car show, it was beautiful! At the time of was impressive, Lancia was definitely playing the Ferrari card

  • @claudioschumi87
    @claudioschumi8711 ай бұрын

    Great video as always! I love the Thema/Ferrari it was so exotic for it's time , it's something that Italy has lost over the years when they were regarded as one of the most creative pioneers in car manufacturers.The Ferrari/Lancia collaboration may have started in the 50s in F1 but the Lancia D50 you was referring to in the video, they had lost their best driver which was Alberto Ascari who was a double World Champion in F1 the last Italian World Champion in fact and was killed testing a prototype Ferrari at Monza a week after he binned his Lancia in the houber at Monaco for the Grand Prix. Fiat and Agnelli who owned Fiat and was a shareholder in Ferrari as well, in the 70s and 80s FIAT was heavily influenced with Italian brands collaborating together over the years and to be honest as much as on paper seemed like a beautiful marriage between Ferrari Fiat Lancia and Alfa Romeo it was slowly the beginning of the end for these companies.😢 We no longer see beautifully exotic cars from these companies which is a shame, thats why these cars like the Thema are so rare that since we sold our souls to the devil and we are now part of the Stellantis group and it will never be the same again. Unfortunately the passing of Sergio Marchionne in 2017 or 18 who was chairman of the FCA had intentions to bring life back to Alfa and Lancia but fate had other ideas.😢

  • @TheEarlofK
    @TheEarlofK11 ай бұрын

    I can remember when the Thema 8:32 came out the car magazines focused on one thing only, the engine, and regarded it as the cheapest way to experience a Ferrari. I have to say that I love the interior of the car, it still looks impressive today.

  • @bleeedthebrakes
    @bleeedthebrakes8 ай бұрын

    Nice video, you're one of them people that pronounced that name right, which makes a random fellow happy Somewhere here in South Asia that saw the fourth most sales of the Thema, we still maintain a small driveable fleet, just to keep them under peoples' eyes Rescued a series 2 8.32 from it's grave a month ago. We had about 30 of them here, but as expected most of them had turned into parts

  • @ktrethewey
    @ktrethewey11 ай бұрын

    You are good at what you do. Your assessments are clear and well balanced. Thank you.

  • @mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm420
    @mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm42011 ай бұрын

    Great video. The 8.32s have always fascinated me. I don't remember their having Ferrari decals on the wing; the point of the car was that it underplayed the engine's roots. Maybe Lancia were getting desperate to shift them and sold out!

  • @benzinapaul7416

    @benzinapaul7416

    11 ай бұрын

    very true, there were no Ferrari insignias when they left the factory but many owners applied SF decals to the wings and prancing horse centre caps. The only nod to Ferrari was the yellow pinstripe and the yellow background to the 8.32 badge

  • @slacko1971

    @slacko1971

    9 ай бұрын

    @@benzinapaul7416 That pin stripe was hand painted as well not a sticker, I always thought that was a cool touch.

  • @benzinapaul7416

    @benzinapaul7416

    9 ай бұрын

    @@slacko1971 it was indeed, they were such bespoke cars it's just a shame they weren't a touch faster to distance them from the 16V Turbo, if they'd used the 3.2 QV engine they would have been much closer to the E28 M5 in performance terms.

  • @lotus72e
    @lotus72e11 ай бұрын

    I lived in Germany in 1989-1993. My father was working at a Nato airbase while I was learning to shag- sort of. The italian neighbour across the street drove a 8.32. The sound was amazing. Down the road our other neighbour drove a SL600 convertible. Nice neighbourhood and wonderful memories😎

  • @rangerdude25
    @rangerdude2511 ай бұрын

    I love your shows Jack! Thanks

  • @nicholascarter2640
    @nicholascarter264011 ай бұрын

    What an absolutely glorious exhaust sound. Revel in it, the electric car will make that fantastic sound a thing to tell your grandkids sbout

  • @dusankocisevic6823

    @dusankocisevic6823

    11 ай бұрын

    Yessss Sir. So true (and so sad)

  • @ronaldderooij1774

    @ronaldderooij1774

    11 ай бұрын

    Your grandchildren will have the same reaction to my grandfather's glorious tales about fantastic horses. My reaction was: Grandpa, they stink, and their flesh is not nice to eat. Your grandchildren will ask you how it is possible that noise and stench was good.

  • @georgebettiol8338

    @georgebettiol8338

    11 ай бұрын

    @@ronaldderooij1774 An interesting perspective. I can contribute that I also don't appreciate the smell of lead-acid or lithium-iron batteries and I certainly would not like to eat any part of the batteries. Notably, I am a fan of EVs and would own the 'fast Tesla' in a heart beat - even though the car isn't the best with regards styling.

  • @ronaldderooij1774

    @ronaldderooij1774

    11 ай бұрын

    @@georgebettiol8338 Haha, I am with you. And Tesla's build quality is not too good either, but maybe the ones made in Germany are better. I don't know.

  • @V8_screw_electric_cars

    @V8_screw_electric_cars

    11 ай бұрын

    I'm gonna tell my grandkids how I could travel across the continent non stop with my friends just changing drivers and stopping for 5 minute fill ups it's gonna blow their minds.

  • @grahamt33
    @grahamt3311 ай бұрын

    Yet another great video for the conoissesseur Great Job, Jack !

  • @skavihekkora5039
    @skavihekkora503911 ай бұрын

    It's a car built around the engine. I remember in my 20s standing beside an open bonnet of that car with engine being revved up. The audio-orgasm is still ringing in my ears to this day.

  • @sebastiend.5335
    @sebastiend.533511 ай бұрын

    Ohhhhh myyyy! That sound!!!! Great video! Greetings from the Netherlands

  • @stuartbrightwell7077
    @stuartbrightwell707711 ай бұрын

    Thanks Jack, what an amazing and unique car! Hoping someone is able to offer you an Alfa 164 Cloverleaf to review at some stage for the Arese approach to this platform.

  • @TheBlaert
    @TheBlaert11 ай бұрын

    It's one car I would loved to have owned. They weren't particularly quick and I think it was more the uniqueness/quirkiness of them that was the appeal. I did end up buying it's little brother, the Fiat Croma Turbo and the less said about that heap the better

  • @mattjukes8151
    @mattjukes815111 ай бұрын

    Hi Jack. Really enjoyed this road test & the history. Did you manage to track down a Fiat Dino Coupe for you to review - the other well known collaboration with a Ferrari engine?

  • @sevesellors2831
    @sevesellors283111 ай бұрын

    Wonderful review on one of my favourite cars. Lovely engine , subtle styling, a wolf in sheep’s clothing , a car to devour the autostrada. Expensive ? Yes but I would have one in a heartbeat! Would love you to test more Lancias.

  • @Seminal_Ideas
    @Seminal_Ideas10 ай бұрын

    Wonderful stuff No27. This magnificent beast strikes me as a vanity project that was green lighted over some very good wine.

  • @judosteffer
    @judosteffer9 ай бұрын

    Grazie al Dio that you pronounce Lancia properly. Nice one!

  • @skeligun
    @skeligun11 ай бұрын

    Another beautiful review of another beautiful car! If you had a show on regular telie, I'd absolutely watch it! Thanks Jack! If I wasn't across the pond at the moment, I would see if you wanted to review one of mine, cheers!

  • @Number27

    @Number27

    11 ай бұрын

    My pleasure! Thanks you buddy and enjoy summer!

  • @beschken
    @beschken11 ай бұрын

    saw yesterday in my neighborhood and this video popped up automatically today :D

  • @gergokovacs9882
    @gergokovacs988211 ай бұрын

    Hi Jack. Great video! I would love to see a comparison video on the italian luxury saloons. By that i mean the Alfa Romeo 164, Fiat Croma and Lancia Thema. I think it would be interesting. Thanks for the videos, keep up the good work!

  • @Number27

    @Number27

    11 ай бұрын

    Ah yes bit not easy to get them all in one place now!! Or even get a normal Thema or Croma. I’ve been trying

  • @howardlake6178

    @howardlake6178

    11 ай бұрын

    That’s if he can find a Fiat Croma 😂

  • @nigel.w
    @nigel.w11 ай бұрын

    In today's context, I think they're more special than they were when new, and you can pick up a good one for 15-25K, depending on the country it's being sold in, and whether you're prepared to import. Of course, all were LHD, so it doesn't really matter where you buy one. I'd also say that most alternatives were bigger and automatic. So, for the person who wants to drive themself, drive a manual, and spends a lot of time driving on narrow roads and crowded city streets, I think the engine and the interior give the car a usp. And as you say it's pretty stealth and goes under the radar, which would appeal to many people. Yeah, you can probably gather, I'd quite like one of these. Back in the day I'd have probably chosen a V12 Jag, but today, as a classic car proposition, I think these are more interesting.

  • @johnandrews3568
    @johnandrews356811 ай бұрын

    That sounds absolutely badass. If only it was a rear drive.

  • @Jimmieadamsp
    @Jimmieadamsp11 ай бұрын

    That exhaust note... Music to my ears

  • @jonathanharris5535
    @jonathanharris553511 ай бұрын

    Superb car. Great channel- always the rare groove Italiano 👌

  • @martinclapton2724
    @martinclapton272411 ай бұрын

    Always had great admiration for these cars , in fact all the Thema range. It was a similar idea to the Lotus Cortina , in a way , and I often wondered how a Mk 4/5 Lotus Cortina would have fared, but Lotus teamed up with the Chrysler group instead with the Lotus Sunbeam. Putting the Ferrari 308 in this was odd, particularly when Lancia had a quicker car in the Thema Turbo but the power delivery was a totally different experience. The unique character , with the extra detailing to the interior , however, really makes this a truly bespoke car

  • @Schlipperschlopper
    @Schlipperschlopper11 ай бұрын

    There was Fiat Croma in 1993 with Alfa Romeo Busso V6 2.5 that was also a sublime Italo Mafia car! Nobody expects a V6 in a Fiat Croma Roma Taxi cab car :-))))

  • @busche1
    @busche111 ай бұрын

    Nice Video ! Greetings from a old guy from Berlin.

  • @Carrera-gp9od
    @Carrera-gp9od11 ай бұрын

    It sounds so much better with the cross plane crank , absolutely superb 👍🏻

  • @JackosJingles
    @JackosJingles11 ай бұрын

    I used to do a post round occasionally I was on the round that had an Italian repair specialist They had one of these parked up once.

  • @AerialAndy944
    @AerialAndy94411 ай бұрын

    Loved my series 1 Thema V6 I had in the early nineties. It’s previous owner was the Earl of Romsey and had a lot of custom Hifi fitted by pioneer. 2.8 PRV engine from a Volvo iirc Great comfy cars with lovey comfy seats but electrics were very troublesome on mine

  • 11 ай бұрын

    From 1988-1993 I worked in Hotel Astoria in Budapest as a concierge, where we had a regular guest, a businessman from Italy who had this car. We had the chance a few time to park it...

  • @roberttrench465
    @roberttrench46511 ай бұрын

    Just thinking about the thema ealier today! My friends dad had the turbo when it first came out..beautiful and fast!

  • @alfiocaldelari9930
    @alfiocaldelari99308 ай бұрын

    I remember these. When I finally could afford one, it was gone. But I wouldn‘t have gotten one anyway, too expensive. In 1992 I got myself a Sierra Cosworth 4wd and it was a beast, forgot all about the 8.32.

  • @richardcarter1000
    @richardcarter100011 ай бұрын

    Love the character of the car. Spotted one at the weekend with great leather trim at a breakfast meet.

  • @markbennett2170
    @markbennett217011 ай бұрын

    Thanks for this post Jack. Always loved the 8:32! I think £22,000 ish can get you a good example and I would love to own one but continued maintenance and parts supply would worry me?

  • @Number27

    @Number27

    11 ай бұрын

    For sure it would throw up a few headaches!! Thanks for watching Mark

  • @robertlloyd7493
    @robertlloyd749311 ай бұрын

    You have found a source of fascinating cars 👍

  • @dusankocisevic6823
    @dusankocisevic682311 ай бұрын

    Aaaah, you just NEED to love this one 💚🤍❤️

  • @leephilpott8849
    @leephilpott884911 ай бұрын

    Great review of a great obscure car, I remember turning down one of these some years ago with very, very light body damage for £1000...big mistake! Out of interest, do you know what gearbox it uses?

  • @theapplepaul
    @theapplepaul11 ай бұрын

    I dream of one day having a Lancia. Not this one. A Zagato, or Delta Integrale. But thoroughly enjoyed your superb video.

  • @stevesas632
    @stevesas63211 ай бұрын

    Nice video Jack, I remember reading about these with intrigue when I owned my Integrale, but can see now from this review why they're so rare. Definitely seems a bit pointless to me, having a glorious sounding Ferrari engine, wrapped up in an uninspiring body & chassis, it would feel like it's asking you to play, then letting you down when you accepted. It's not luxurious enough to compete with the Jag, but not sporty enough to compete with the BMW, but comes with an expensive engine, making it definitely a tough pick, only it's oddball & rarity tag leaving some intrigue.

  • @alexwilkins8601
    @alexwilkins860111 ай бұрын

    Perfect timing Jack. I have my eye on one of these since a couple of weeks. Your video might just force a decision!

  • @Number27

    @Number27

    11 ай бұрын

    Wow hope it’s a good one if you get it Alex !! Good luck

  • @benzinapaul7416
    @benzinapaul741611 ай бұрын

    Jack, did you know you toward the end of Thema production in some LHD markets your could have a Thema with a Busso 3.0 V6 12V with the 8.32 interior

  • @josefstockwell9636
    @josefstockwell963611 ай бұрын

    The only time I saw one of these, it was parked outside a smart restaurant in Bologna. Cheers for the great reviews you do Jack.

  • @cultflix6312
    @cultflix631211 ай бұрын

    Top class review 👏

  • @yerrie1908
    @yerrie190811 ай бұрын

    If you have driven a Lancia Gamma than you know why the Thema is not popular with Lancia enthusiasts, handling has always be the key thing about Lancia's, the Thema isn't bad but it hasn't Lancia's superior handling. The 8:32 was not the best but for sure the coolest at the time, people didn't know what to think when the spoiler came up, no phone to answer to questions in the good old 80's

  • @R-Tap
    @R-Tap11 ай бұрын

    My barber had one of these back in the day. He told me I was the only person that ever asked him about it, a sleeper in some ways. The sound is mega, even today. Fair play Dermo, wonder what he drives today?, prob a Kia or something!!!

  • @Nellie-H
    @Nellie-H9 ай бұрын

    Some of my favorite Lancia: Flaminia GTL, Stratos, Fulvia Coupe, Delta Integrale. 😎

  • @gilesspencer4278
    @gilesspencer427811 ай бұрын

    About 20 years ago the Italian sandwich guy who used to come around our office every day, drove one of these in mint condition on his deliveries and was always so proud of it's Ferrari engine. Interesting and cool car.

  • @BerndSTHEVINCENTDE
    @BerndSTHEVINCENTDE9 ай бұрын

    I used to work on these cars, two of our customers cars caught fire and changing cambelts every 40k km [engine out, emptying and refill of a system] was really expensive for the customers, as well as broken thermostats deep in the V of the engine

  • @italianduded1161
    @italianduded116111 ай бұрын

    HOW DID I MISS THIS!!!??? Absolutely love this car! I hope I will buy at least the turbo one (201/205 hp)

  • @oliverlondon5246
    @oliverlondon524611 ай бұрын

    Fantastic! I love these. You’re content is getting better and better. I think you might have just been promoted to be my favourite car KZreadr (not that anyone cares) 👍🏼

  • @pauldoree3967

    @pauldoree3967

    11 ай бұрын

    Love Jacks videos, but Harry’s Garage and Tyrrell’s Classic workshop are also superb

  • @dlevi67

    @dlevi67

    11 ай бұрын

    Somebody cars.

  • @kiwiwifi

    @kiwiwifi

    11 ай бұрын

    What’s up with your 308 Jack? Did you ever do a proper ‘sorted 308’ vid?

  • @Number27

    @Number27

    11 ай бұрын

    That’s very kind Oliver thanks.. but it’s say to make an interesting video when you have such a special car to film!

  • @Eastbarn1

    @Eastbarn1

    11 ай бұрын

    @@pauldoree3967Harry’s reviews are ok if you can filter out “In the EVO days we went the house in Cannes every weekend” etc but he comes out with some toe curlers when talking (unscripted) to restorers or Ian Tyrell. Ian Tyrell is the king - “Oooh Harry, What’s that noise!? It has always done that. We need to return to the workshop right away!”

  • @vbucks5942
    @vbucks594211 ай бұрын

    Yayyyyyy! Thanks for this ❤

  • @richfixescars
    @richfixescars11 ай бұрын

    A guy called Charles Millington ran a Lancia garage in Pershore and bought the press demo featured in Car magazine reg no E33 FAP, he used to drop his kids off at school in it, seemed very cool when I was 16.

  • @lets_measure_it
    @lets_measure_it11 ай бұрын

    i heard that 8.32 was the expected front tyre life. great sound

  • @Schlipperschlopper
    @Schlipperschlopper11 ай бұрын

    Please Video of Alfa 6 Berlina 2,5 iE or carbs (6 Dellortos) with hand shifted gearbox!

  • @crazyfvck
    @crazyfvck8 ай бұрын

    That sounds great :)

  • @broomad
    @broomad11 ай бұрын

    Fabulous car - totally up my street 👍 Thanks Jack

  • @bcBiz
    @bcBiz11 ай бұрын

    Uniquenes does make it special. Thank you

  • @free_gold4467
    @free_gold446711 ай бұрын

    Great car videos!

  • @SkysaxonDragonslayer
    @SkysaxonDragonslayer11 ай бұрын

    Great video as ever! Would love to see the Lancia Thesis … … please forgive me, but I always loved the Thesis, but never bought one…😇

  • @Number27

    @Number27

    11 ай бұрын

    I would l le to do a video on one.. I rather liked the Kappa coupe too!

  • @barochoc
    @barochocАй бұрын

    It was obscene money in its day, but, it remained exclusive and I’ll always remember the talk, as a kid/teen, about the Ferrari engined Lancia Thema. Genuinely, many thought it was bull. I only seen (and luckily heard) one once, and it was glorious! The power from a 3ltr NA engine was respectable too. It sounds waaaaaay better than the Mercs, Jags & Beemers you mentioned. I was never a Thema fan in normal or turbo guise. Always preferred the Saab 9000 because it was SOLID, or even the Alfa 164 because it was the best looking of the three (I won’t mention the Fiat Chroma 🙈). But, money being no object and a tidy example of all models on offer, I’d have to take the 8.32 👌🏼

  • @akenordin8812
    @akenordin881211 ай бұрын

    I remember hailing a cab outside some roman villa-themed disco just south of Rimini and finding myself in one of those. Quite a spectacular ride back to the hotel... It's basically the same car as a SAAB 9000 but with a wonderful engine, right? I recognized the ACC panel, but why wasn't it operative? Is it dead in that car?

  • @vornamenachname5589
    @vornamenachname558911 ай бұрын

    I own a 420 SE W126 which i love, but i like this car. espeacially the interior. and the engine sounds so good. 80' cars had so much individuality and character. not like the boring plastic smartphones on wheels of these days.

  • @markdoyle6414
    @markdoyle641411 ай бұрын

    That's one of the best sounding cars I've heard on KZread for a while.

  • @martsteegh4122
    @martsteegh412211 ай бұрын

    I've had 4 Lancia Thema's but there were other options (at least here in Europe) than the 4 cylinder Turbo (great car btw) and the 8 cylinder "8.32 Ferrari". There was the entry-level 2 liter (8 valves), the 2 liter 16 valves (that was my first, it somehow had the most comfortable rear bench I've ever had and with 150 hp and 1240 kg it was quite fast - really, I've tried them all), then there was the 2.8 V6 (my second, for a 2.8 V6 nowdays it was not that fast but then it felt like a big invisible hand pushed you forward when you made a subtle brush against the gas-pedal), and then the turbo (165 hp 8v in the type 1- but it didn't suffer at all from turbo-lag, like the 2 16v versions that followed did - , 185 hp in the type 2 (1989 - till 1992) and 205 hp in the type 3 (1992 till 1995) which was the one I had the longest, also the reason - according to Lancia - why they didn't make the 8.32 anymore in the type 3 (it hardly had more hp than the turbo, although it drove quite different, they had a trim option though called the LX which had the same interior as the 8.32 (which was also quite expensive, it had the leather interior from Poltrona Frau though, not the Alcantara in the video, like my 8.32 had and almost all 8.32's I've seen), I had the LS, one trim "lower", but with very beautiful blue alcantara and all the options avalable at the time). Then there was the 3.0 V6 with 175 hp, but I guess a lot of torque, because that thing was really fast (also thirsty, but so was my turbo). And yes I've also had an 8.32 (type 2) luckily not as my daily driver because that was the only one which gave me some good times but also lots of trouble (whereas the other ones did not, although some people said I was crazy buying such a complicated Italian car, etc. but for the same money you could buy e.g. a slow BMW 5 (or 3) without Climate control and ABS, power windows and mirrors (that were also heated).

  • @Number27

    @Number27

    11 ай бұрын

    We had the other models here too and I’ve driven them all apart from the V6. My dad had an 8V LX, 16V LX and a 16V Turbo. The LX here did not have the Ferrari interior though.. the instruments and full leather on dash I’m sure where just for the 8.32? Thanks for watching and enjoy your 8.32!

  • @lewis72
    @lewis7211 ай бұрын

    I like this only because it's interesting and very rare but, as you correctly stated, it wasn't that good compared to its competitors. A manual 3.6 XJ40 would have been a good shout in this era.

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