Telling men that their masculinity is undesirable is about as counterproductive to producing a healthy society as telling an engineer that mathematics is unnecessary.

@MondayNightFriend

2 ай бұрын

Hear hear

@sianais

2 ай бұрын

They think math is racist, so don't put it past them.

@poppazoz

2 ай бұрын

That would be funny if I hadn't actually seen somebody try to pull that exact line out. And no don't ask me where, I don't remember, it was some stupid communofeminist argument that I ran away from as fast as I could.

@Princess_Feona

2 ай бұрын

That would be funny if colleges were not telling engineers that exact thing.

@oldskoolaspie

2 ай бұрын

👏

I don’t define my manhood by what is produced by holly weird….

@chasehedges6775

2 ай бұрын

Exactly. Modern Hollywood and its oddness doesn’t define me or my identity/self worth

@jomana1109

2 ай бұрын

How do you define it then? And is it a source of pride for you?

@BrandonScott-mi5pz

2 ай бұрын

MEN ARE DOOM.

@sianais

2 ай бұрын

They aren't after yours, they're after your son's.

@iamme4494

2 ай бұрын

@@sianais That’s where not letting the iPad raise your kids come in

Even removing politics from the feminized fashion, it just looks ugly

@scarlett19b

2 ай бұрын

*It looks like Men with a Fetish which is nowadays in public display.. and apparently completely normalized!*

@scarlett19b

2 ай бұрын

*It's people {Men} with Fetishes publicly showing their Fetishes!*

@bjornskivids

2 ай бұрын

It is. It's meant to poison society The people that run Hollywood HATE you. They just want you addicted to toxins and stupid.

@dumbguydepot304

2 ай бұрын

@@scarlett19b Nah, it's men falling in line with their Rainbow masters.

@jildert.

2 ай бұрын

@@dumbguydepot304 What are rainbow masters? that sounds like some dope af discount Daft Punk

all of those traits are "toxic" in men but praised in women.

@Floxxoror

Ай бұрын

Yes, but the real actresses mostly still look hot. And if everyday girls dress like them with skirts and dresses and whatnot, they still look generally quite good. If you run around like one of these clowns, you will have to wait a loooooong time, until you can pump your 'gender fluid' into a woman again. Maybe forever.

@xtlm

Ай бұрын

They just want men to be women and women to be men. Because it's unnatural and will cause chaos in the world. That's basically the ultimate goal lol

@moondoll2470

Ай бұрын

All we’re doing is trading , real woman behave like men and real man behave like women , it’s crazy and worse but people seem incapable of finding balance , you can be masculine without it being toxic and misogynistic as you can be a “girl boss” without being a total manly bitch

It's really weird how grown men crying is portrayed as a joke, but then men are being told that it's ok to cry. If it's ok to cry, then show it on screen seriously! I used to watch Supernatural, and they were terrific with showing Sam and Dean in emotionally vulnerable moments without them losing their masculinity, so it can be done. And Baby Girl Men is the most fetishizing, condescending, gross term I've ever heard. That's some PDF file nastiness. 🤢

@callmewisteria

2 ай бұрын

thank you! SPN was one of the shows that showed me a good balance of men and women; equal but different

@hope-cat4894

2 ай бұрын

​@@callmewisteriaAnd that show had a huge female audience! These writers need to realize that women love masculinity _with_ vulnerability. Masculinity can be protective and safe and not just aggressive and threatening.

@Thor-Orion

2 ай бұрын

Crying is weird for me. I have an extreme physical aversion to crying in front of other people, as in it’s virtually impossible for me to do so. I can cry when I’m alone but it’s still not hard crying, my eyes will just well up and a couple tears will drop. Part of me wishes it were easier to cry, because i would love to have someone comfort me when I’m upset, but my body just won’t allow it.

@gnarwhal7562

2 ай бұрын

The Iron Claw is another great example (specifically the end scene with Kevin's 2 boys. God that part is a gut punch)

@scarlett19b

2 ай бұрын

*Buffy the vampire slayer & The Vampire Diaries was just like that.. strong Male characters who weren't afraid of showing their emotions!*

I broke my leg 5 weeks ago, when I called my dad he laughed his ass off but then asked if I was okay. I wouldn't want it any other way. Best dad ever fr.

@blatherama

2 ай бұрын

My dad would have been angry about his truck at some point. In fact, his first question probably would have been "how's the truck?" His logic being that if I'm able to speak to him, I must be okay. Hopefully that means the truck is okay, too.

@who_is_dis

2 ай бұрын

Thaaass toxaaaaac REEEEEEEEE!!!!!!! 🤬🤬🤬 ur just insecuuuuureeee

@pin2peen972

2 ай бұрын

mothers usually get anxious, dads just laugh it off lol

@ledanoir1239

2 ай бұрын

Your dad cant be best dad ever unless you are my brother. But I understand the sentiment

@usuario12346

2 ай бұрын

I wonder if he would laugh if you go into a coma.

Here's an idea, how about that, instead of demonizing one gender while encouraging the other to be toxic and entitled, we instead encourage both men and women to be the best of themselves regardless of their gender?

@ptyleranodon3081

2 ай бұрын

Over the years I’ve learned that most people don’t ever rise above their tribal instincts (aka black- and-white thinking). I think society is doomed to constantly swing from one extreme to the other. Always surprised when the crap inevitably hits the fan and we’re forced to start moving back in the other direction.

@sharong8794

2 ай бұрын

Yeah but then you can't destroy society which is the goal.

@mallorycarpinski1160

2 ай бұрын

It doesn't sell enough handbags.

@Microbex

Ай бұрын

I personally think this is driven by hardcore feminism to emasculate men from the 'Patriarchy' dominance.

@truthseeker7815

Ай бұрын

That was kinda the point of deconstructing masculinity, but it seems it was unclear for some

I can't stop thinking about how men especially in rock bands dressed in the 1970's. They embraced a very androgynous style, makeup and all of that but were still considered very "macho", manly men. I think it had a different meaning back then. It was not a political statement it was just fun and style experimentation. Everything is politicised nowadays.

@jeffersonhassan4558

2 ай бұрын

The fashion today is also not a political statement,you are the one seeing it as one

@trishbrims

2 ай бұрын

and some of those band members new they were playing a role .. and went back to real life … now they think they are the role full time …

@jagr06

2 ай бұрын

You cannot be macho manly man if you embraced a androgynous lifestyle, this is a lie and anyone calling any of them macho is just ridiculous.

@kathleenking47

2 ай бұрын

Early 70s baphomet 🤘? I never like long hair on men.. Although I wear pants, I think young women 12-30 Should be dressing in midis, along with cute pumps, when they go out

@kathleenking47

2 ай бұрын

They were playing a role The early 70s started the unisex styles I remember seeing a mad magazine The LIGHTER SIDE of... It was clothing A guy saw, what looked like 2 girls close (around 73, 74) When he got closer, they were wearing the same thing I was thinking, that Ban Halen and Valerie Bertinelli, copied that look They dressed exactly alike With orange balloon pants/wife beaters, and mullets

Seeing all those male celebs in dresses made my stomach turn as fluid as Ezra Miller's gender.

@Kunigunda897

2 ай бұрын

Hollywood in general is full of creeps. Also, for decades they liked to put black men in dresses.

@mosshivenetwork117

2 ай бұрын

Why were there so many

@JANFU_Nova

2 ай бұрын

@@Kunigunda897 ain't called hollyweird for nothing

@Wolffman109

2 ай бұрын

Wasn't he arrested?

@justinbowers2749

2 ай бұрын

Oh yes several times

I Don’t watch television, so this is a total shock to my system! Why oh why, do men go along with this?

@Hotraider

2 ай бұрын

same here If I didn't watch this vid before some told me that men are doing this I'd say they were having a laugh, how can anyone live like this I don't what to know

@EverettBurger

2 ай бұрын

Because the actors/athletes are paid to go along

@simcard027

2 ай бұрын

on a personal level, if the girls that you're attracted to and are hanging out with are encouraging it guys will fall into it to be accepted by them especially younger guys who haven't figured this stuff out yet

@Thor-Orion

2 ай бұрын

We don’t

@michaelkennedy8270

2 ай бұрын

They don't, as a vast majority. This relates to a tiny percentage that have no idea who they are, or more importantly, how they are. It may be a relatively simpler game to be a man, but what's made in clay is laid in clay. We are all sons of the red earth, we are all Adam. Some earth may experience excessive weathering, but nothing that truly flourishes finds root in that.

That "My sexy little baby" part was as creepy as it could be. This *is* the oedipal mother. And now I MUST vomit.

@crowsan2871

2 ай бұрын

Nah thats a toxic boy mom right there.

@panzerwolf-iw9pc

2 ай бұрын

You and me both 🤮

@DragonOfTheMortalKombat

Ай бұрын

And I must vomit twice after those "fashionable" men I just saw.

@devonhughes3805

Ай бұрын

yeah, that is fvcked up.

“If women were in charge there would be no crime” This is so hilariously naive😅😅😅

@sebastiaanstok

2 ай бұрын

Because it would be legal not hurt anyone's feelings.

@filipefranca5866

Ай бұрын

The true psycopaths would be unpunished. We would return to the stone age if women were in charge of things

@michaeldavid6832

25 күн бұрын

Women have been in charge throughout all known human history. Cleopatra was famous. So were the various Queens of Europe. You know what they did? Engaged in more wars than the male rulers did. Why is this the case? Because when you aren't male, you don't know what war means in your bones. As an XX, at worst you become a war bride. For men, the worst is having molten lead poured down ur troat. War hits differently when you're male. Wise rulers understand the math of war and it's far-ranging consequences. XXs are emotional and live in the moment. They don't understand consequences of rash acts. I wish this weren't the case but I've lived long enough to have seen absolutely zero instances of an XX planning for the future more than their next vacation.

Hollyweird is so out of touch with reality

@Sabundy

2 ай бұрын

But the problem is that it's increasingly becoming reality.

@DragonOfTheMortalKombat

Ай бұрын

@@Sabundy Together we can stop this.

How can it be called feminization if neither gender acts like that in real life?

@DavidMartinez-ce3lp

2 ай бұрын

This is how Hollywood thinks people act in real life. This is for them, not us

@limeOjello

2 ай бұрын

There’s an objective feminine and masculine

@waywardrachel9637

2 ай бұрын

Bingo

@tunanoketchup4285

2 ай бұрын

Social conditioning and programming which gets rid of the stigma. S*x work went from being taboo to being accepted as part of societal norm...OF just helped kill the stigma off completely. But this didn't happen over night, s*x tape from kim k and ray j was part of the foundation of this, instagram also played a huge part in normalizing women being half naked on the internet. Now we've reached a place where teachers, lawyers, nurses, doctors are leaving their professions to become OF stars...

@shaunpatrick8345

2 ай бұрын

They're portraying it as normal to encourage people to act that way.

Rambo: First Feelings. John Rambo, a decorated Vietnam veteran, is railroaded by a corrupt local sheriff but instead of escaping and going on a rampage, he attends an anger management class and cries about his feelings on a therapist's couch. Critics are hailing it as "stunning and brave", praising its update of the character for modern audiences...

@RachelNichols-writer

2 ай бұрын

Lol. That sounds funny for a skit. Seriously.

@scarlett19b

2 ай бұрын

@@RachelNichols-writer *For 📺SNL!*

@TGMasaka

2 ай бұрын

Eyy, bruh. Don't give them ideas, please 🥺

@TaskForce_Raccoon

2 ай бұрын

In the finale he delivers a public apology to the Vietnamese people for his toxic white masculinity and privilege.

@SubZero-hs9xc

2 ай бұрын

.. You mean that movie message is that you have to be berserk and elaborate your ptsd? What a woke message

These days women have been groomed to believe they want to settle down with a fan. Not a passionate human being who has his own wants, needs, and goals. They want fans who will “Stan” their every whim, who will be their cheerleaders, who will bend (without breaking) into any shape they want them to be. They want fans who have bottomless checking accounts, and are always willing to donate to their money at any given moment. They want accessories that they can cling to whenever times get tough, but push aside as soon as it’s convenient. I just can’t wrap my head around living your life that way. Especially if you’re the man. Is it really worth it to be treated as a commodity, rather than a human being? Call me old fashioned, but I thought relationships were for people that wanted to connect emotionally with another human being. For people who want to live for each other, tackling any obstacles that come their way. When you’re with someone, you’re a team, and teams can only work if both parties are actively rowing the boat.

@Seven70307

2 ай бұрын

Well said, sir. Agreed 100%.

@scarlett19b

2 ай бұрын

🤷🏽‍♀️ *I'm a Woman🚺♀️ and I wholeheartedly agree!* 💯🙌🏽

@SubZero-hs9xc

2 ай бұрын

No one wants to live like this,dont go with people who want to treat you like this, pretty simple

@deathdog1392

2 ай бұрын

You have a feminized concept of relationships in itself. That's part of the problem. The whole explore eachother emotionally thinh is bs. Your significant other is not going to like you showing your emotions in an honest way. You'll be seen as weak at best and a danger at worst. Men really need to master their emotions themselves, because no one anywhere else will take your feelings seriously. No woman wants to emotionally support a man they want to sleep with. Women only want that man to emotionally support them. But yeah it doesn't go both ways because the world is unfair in ways they never told you. And you seem to be going with a concept of relationships that was told to you by bitter wine aunts that frequent teaching in public schools, or by mainstream wine aunt media.

@scarlett19b

2 ай бұрын

@@deathdog1392👉🏽 *A real Man isn't afraid of showing His emotions!* 👈🏽

This show is “the writers poorly disguised fetish”

@lva9821

2 ай бұрын

My very thought. A bunch of perverts....

I loved Top Gun Maverick because it made me feel good to be a man again.

They always want to make men cry and act emotional it’s like some weird power trip or porn for them it’s very weird I urge men to not follow Hollywood

@NightimeInDeepSpace

2 ай бұрын

Just white men, I don't think I've ever seen any other race made to cry as much on screen

@SubZero-hs9xc

2 ай бұрын

Bruh

@jeffersonhassan4558

2 ай бұрын

Because men aren't humans to you?

@candide1065

2 ай бұрын

@@jeffersonhassan4558 What's wrong with you?

@jeffersonhassan4558

2 ай бұрын

@@candide1065 ask the op the question, I'm not the one policing men's feelings but go off

As a man, especially a man of color. It’s pretty frustrating seeing how these people who make these shows view us. It really sucks.

@fionavanbuuren3966

2 ай бұрын

Most women if they are honest, want a masculine man.

@kathleenking47

2 ай бұрын

With more men wearing dresses than women. I remember in the early 70s (I'm 65) I was wearing lots of pants, and pantsuits An older lady was joking: If you girls stop wearing dresses, the MEN will wear them We all laughed We're not laughing now

@truthseeker7815

Ай бұрын

@@fionavanbuuren3966, a lot of seek “femenine” traits too

@Melancholymadness62

Ай бұрын

​@@kathleenking47Hahaha that old lady was damn true in that cent lol.

Seeing Harry Styles in those silly women's clothes is just messed up. I'm not a fashion expert, but holy crap... this is giving me so much "Silence of the Lambs" vibes.

@hope-cat4894

2 ай бұрын

It's because it doesn't look natural on him. One thing I've noticed is that when you compare the men who wore dresses and makeup in the 70s and 80s, it looked cool and edgy. Now, it just feels fake and creepy.

@khadyadjisall5708

2 ай бұрын

It looks ugly that’s it 😅

@2ndCitySES17

2 ай бұрын

He does put the lotion on its skin, and he’ll take the hose again

@markginther6088

2 ай бұрын

"I'd f*ck me"

@adaptivegamer9905

2 ай бұрын

It’s humiliation ritual. Notice all these men from rappers, nba players, actors that are macho men etc. wear a damn skirt or have a purse etc.? Like wtf? It’s to desensitize us men & women to create this weird genderless blob with no individuality & especially no masculinity.

How did our society go so wrong so quickly?

@mkaplan1383

2 ай бұрын

When Demolition Man became the road map to social dystopia instead of satire....

@donfades7869

2 ай бұрын

Communist subversion.

@bjornskivids

2 ай бұрын

People let secret societies take over because they were able to be convinced that they didn't exist. And it wasn't quickly. The erosion of values began in the 60's if not earlier. The Catholic Church also initiated a big change about that time (Novus Ordo, the New Order) and the repercussions for it are still playing out, changing the fabric of the faith and our society today at the synod. The values of the country have been subverted from the inside and it's a long-con game that is playing out too slow for most people to recognize. The "conspiracy theorists" are right.

@ironphantom4912

2 ай бұрын

Twitter

@85481

2 ай бұрын

It basically didn't. It's just weirdos with a major platform. Life is a mess for sure for a lot of people but all this crap is just nonsense rich people engage in or the weirder of the liberal sphere.

If my son broke his leg in an accident he stupidly and immaturely caused and TOTALED my truck, that is exactly how I would cry... I love my truck... Oh yeah and he would be grounded until he is 21.

@nihilismistheonlyway4680

2 ай бұрын

​@Warh0l omg dude take a joke

@solanareznor8309

2 ай бұрын

@@Warh0l someone skipped sarcasm class

@2night78

2 ай бұрын

😂😂💀

@Crawlingdreams418

2 ай бұрын

When that dad cried, I legit thought he'd say his son was braindead or something. He was weeping like that kid died.

@wiseonwords

Ай бұрын

@PatronusHelice - Great comment!

I have seen grown men cry. It's usually out of pain and love. Never anger or depression. They grunt or sigh and rub their knuckles across their eyes. Then take a deep breath and put on a stoic front.

@jeffersonhassan4558

2 ай бұрын

Shows the men you have in your life

@truthseeker7815

Ай бұрын

Don’t saying it’s the case, but not crying to keep a facade is not stoic

@chaos9059

Ай бұрын

I've never seen anyone cry melodramatically. Unlike these over acted bland television productions.

@Hello-hello-hello456

Ай бұрын

That's how they're conditioned, under the name of 'masculinity'. It's so funny how you don't see the irony of the situation, it's to change these harmful gender norms.

@tashacooper1753

2 күн бұрын

Like when my dad lost his dad only time I saw him cry

Our world is doomed

@spmoran4703

2 ай бұрын

You said it

@chasehedges6775

2 ай бұрын

💯.

@Alster763

2 ай бұрын

Not sure it is doomed, it is certainly changing. Don't worry the A.I. Robots will take over.

@chasehedges6775

2 ай бұрын

It is doomed and it is changing. No difference to me, really

@stdamonsbeard

2 ай бұрын

@@chasehedges6775 Its only doomed when good people let it happen.

This is what happens when you have angry lesbians write your scripts

@bjornskivids

2 ай бұрын

When people with small hats want to ensure that your Christian society crumbles Again, destruction of those values goes back to things like Norma Rae and Easy Rider. "But they won award, that means they have to be good!" No, it just means you've been incentivized to watch them. Because they're toxic and will make you question your values. Sally Field should be shown the same derision as Jane Fonda and for many of the same reasons. They're pushing the same message. Always have been.

@jeffersonhassan4558

2 ай бұрын

And you are what happens when we have cis white men write your script

@kathleenking47

2 ай бұрын

Destroying Hollywood Even Beverly Hills is a wreck today

@widget0028

2 ай бұрын

Men are making tje majority of what you're watching lmao

@Raven9940

2 ай бұрын

@@widget0028 not at Disney/netflix/amazon

"strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times" Edit- "and hard times create strong men" for the baby below that needed the full quote.

@MexxProtect

2 ай бұрын

… and hard times create strong men. Always important to bring it full circle so it’s not just blackpill.

@kaijufan6246

2 ай бұрын

This is what I told a coworker of mine, and she understood it.

@SubZero-hs9xc

2 ай бұрын

You guys are only able to repeat make up phrases

@passionoflovers

2 ай бұрын

@@SubZero-hs9xc sometimes I wonder if people are only able to communicate in buzzwords these days.

@SubZero-hs9xc

2 ай бұрын

@@passionoflovers because is more easy than elaborate your point and showing how little in the end you know

Oh no Has feminism ever been about female empowerment without stopping on men?

@jdspetersgaming

2 ай бұрын

It has. At least in its pure form. What we have now is not feminism.

@popstarprincess123

2 ай бұрын

@@jdspetersgaming are suffragettes considered feminists?

@simpdefendmlady6579

2 ай бұрын

It has. 1st wave gave women the vote without having to sign up for the Selective Service. Oh wait

@candide1065

2 ай бұрын

@@jdspetersgaming Pls stop the gaslighting, Karen.

@candide1065

2 ай бұрын

@@popstarprincess123 Suffragettes were terrible and Feminism was always about hating men.

The scene of the man crying in the car made me laugh. If they were trying to convey some drama, they failed miserably.

It’s happening in real life with the toxic “boy mom” trends all over social media

@bjornskivids

2 ай бұрын

Paganism is making a comeback now that Christianity is being shoved into the background. The Galli are rising again. Babylon is back.

My sister was obsessed with Sex in the City back in the day. Aden was the only halfway decent human in the thing. It shouldn't surprise me they castrated him in the new version. The fashion industry is evil and has never not been evil.

@jeffersonhassan4558

2 ай бұрын

The fashion industry pushes boundaries,they are not boring like you want to be and a man getting emotional means he's castrated now? Wow

@twinkletoes6290

2 ай бұрын

They also killed Big in the very first episode. They’ve ruined what Sex and the City was. 😑

@megsley

2 ай бұрын

I liked Steve and I always thought he and Miranda were a weird coupling.

@jagr06

2 ай бұрын

Correction; Everything is Evil, the idea of anything being good especially capitalism system is just a mask. If you look in history there's not many societies that are actually good because males and females are flawed and born evil with the possibility of good, however you want to define that. To be human is to recognize both and accept both, not this fairy tale of good is always present.

@kathleenking47

2 ай бұрын

That's one show, I never watched, along with Friends

Nah I could get it why he cried like that in the car He just saw the medical bill

@tackyman2011

2 ай бұрын

LOL Thank you for that!

@charlotteb6519

Ай бұрын

😂😂

Grit, determination, hard work, and sacrifice are no longer what women look for in a mate. That said it’s not going to stop me from continuing my path.

@MondayNightFriend

2 ай бұрын

Filters it out for the right rare ones. 👍🏼

@jomana1109

2 ай бұрын

That’s how the media and socials make it seem but it ain’t true, not a bit. You’re very much coveted and should care to preserve these traits!

@sianais

2 ай бұрын

Nope. Women are still looking for those. When the soft guys get cheated on, that’s the number one reason.

@AllieStokke

2 ай бұрын

Oof, I get where you're coming from, but the screaming feminist voices don't represent all women. I'd say they barely represent ANY women. Grit, determination and hard work are faaaaaaar more attractive than some dude decked out like a drunk Christmas tree.

@Anwelei

2 ай бұрын

Healthy women still look for that in a man worth marrying. You’ll find the right one!!

"My sexy little baby" Lmfao. That was so uncomfortable that I laughed so hard.

@Spiqaro

2 ай бұрын

Now just imagine if they'd switched it to a father cradling his grown daughter and saying that...

@TSDamiano

Ай бұрын

​@@SpiqaroMetoo and 50 year of jail

"She-Hulk" show is a perfect example of the type of men feminism thinks exist, and the type they think should exist. Exhibit A is dumb and power-hungry/evil while Exhibit B is dumb and weak, unable to deal with anything without instructions from a woman. The scene where the female legal assistant has to coach her male friend on how to infiltrate a meeting of his peers is unintentionally pathetic and hilarious at the same time. She thinks she knows better than he does how men talk to men. And he knows better than to assert himself or even question her. Iirc the guy's name was Pug. I mean, why not Poodle? The creepy scene you showed where the guy is being comforted and called a sexy baby by his actual mother is really disturbing. 🤢 There are way too many casual inclusions of "incst-ish is kinda hot" in entertainment "for modern audiences." Thank you very much for the video! Happy Easter, or if you don't celebrate it, have a great weekend! 🙏🧡🐰🐣🥕🍀🌤️

@SubZero-hs9xc

2 ай бұрын

And guess what everyone hated she hulk

@robertcarter4002

2 ай бұрын

Well, the good thing about that Ted Lasso scene is that- right there in that same scene- was a manly man who thought that the 'baby man' was ridiculous, and who also thought the dynamic between mom and son was very weird. I love Baggage Claim's videos, but I do have to give Ted Lasso props for that.

@dronesclubhighjinks

2 ай бұрын

@@SubZero-hs9xc yes, that was my unspoken foundation for the comment. Even the people who liked it, sorry, who claimed to like it didn’t watch it. They’re unable to answer what their favourite scene is, what their favourite episode is, what their favourite witty dialogue is, etc. it’s like they approve of the concept of the female superhero in the show but don’t actually want to watch it.

@dronesclubhighjinks

2 ай бұрын

@@robertcarter4002 you are correct!

I am glad I am 40+ and am not being raised in this "brave" new world. Though I have pity for those who are.

@scarlett19b

2 ай бұрын

*I am a bit younger and feel the exact same way!*

@kaijufan6246

2 ай бұрын

They say "brave." I say stupid as Hell.

@RealHebrewMonk

2 ай бұрын

Same here.

@jeffersonhassan4558

2 ай бұрын

I'm glad, don't need beasts like you in our generation

@kathleenking47

2 ай бұрын

​@@kaijufan6246 Huxley wrote it Brave New World In that book, there was obesity..and they put weights on dancers He was Orwell's professor Serling got Orwell, but not Huxley

I'm From Benin and here all these things aren't really present in our society. But i can say that in Africa many people are redirecting to more local movie production and Hollywood is loosing ground here because all these scenario aren't good for healthy society

@jeffersonhassan4558

2 ай бұрын

Men acting like human beings before they are men is bad?

@RobertOnYoutube.

Ай бұрын

@@jeffersonhassan4558wake up

@declanlightowler9529

Ай бұрын

​@@jeffersonhassan4558 there is a dichotomy. Men should behave like men and women should behave like women

this makes me appreciate my boyfriend so much more

I know that there was a trend of wearing makeup and dressing like a woman since the 80s (kiss, twisted sister etc...) but acting this way disturbs me deeper than anything else that was happening in the past.

@Jaheartsjonas

2 ай бұрын

It goes back to Little Richard in the 50's, Mick Jager in the 60's, David Bowie in the 70's etc etc actually.

@Fred-gu6pk

2 ай бұрын

​@@Jaheartsjonas Queen also did it

@SubZero-hs9xc

2 ай бұрын

And dont watch it

@user-ib9pz6id5b

2 ай бұрын

My Brother in crist men wearing make up has been the norm for centuries

@projectc.j.j3310

2 ай бұрын

@@user-ib9pz6id5bif you think it’s been a norm you’re delusional💀 we don’t live in the ancient world

There's a old episode of 'The Simpsons' where Lisa is reading a teen magazine titled "Non-Threatening Boys" and I thought that was what the feminization of men was about. But nowadays, as the video suggests, it seems more political, an effort to make men into women because women vote left, to put women in leadership positions in culture so they'll be seen as better leaders in real-world politics than men.

@SubZero-hs9xc

2 ай бұрын

... Bruh

@candide1065

2 ай бұрын

@@SubZero-hs9xc Ok, bot.

@jagr06

2 ай бұрын

And that's a bad thing?

@guygadbois3010

Ай бұрын

@@Othillde That's an interesting hobby . . . but I fixed it for ya!

The problem is, Hollywood has a great influence on the younger generation. I’m not concerned about myself or my peers, we are to set an out of ways, but the young people will be so negative affect by this 🥵

@SubZero-hs9xc

2 ай бұрын

... im pretty sure that emoji was nt the one you wanted, bozo

@YaFeya13

2 ай бұрын

@@SubZero-hs9xc oh, the outrage, whatever shall we do now, the wrong emoji 😱😱😱

@SubZero-hs9xc

2 ай бұрын

@@YaFeya13 it makes you look horny thats the thing

@saltra9940

2 ай бұрын

It ain't going to affect them bro. Unfortunately, the younger generation is influenced primarily by the internet and social media, and as far as I've experienced with babysitting, the boys have become something worse than soyboys: *self-centered, undisciplined, wannabe pimps* . They pretty much call any guy with a sign of self-care, or just care in appearance, gay, and call any dude with a GPA higher than 3.0 a wimp. Meanwhile the women have become overly paranoid over their appearance at a young age, and have become engrossed in looking sexually appeasing. The effects of the counterculture surrounding feminism on gen alpha need to be studied.

@jeffersonhassan4558

2 ай бұрын

Negative effect that it's ok to be emotional?

time to create our own culture independent from this mainstream insanity.

@Anwelei

2 ай бұрын

Absolutely!

@sephiroth1234

2 ай бұрын

It's already there. Yemen, Russia, Botswana welcome you. All truly masculine countries. Hope you enjoy being a real man, in these sh**holes.

@sojalemmi1515

2 ай бұрын

@@sephiroth1234 idk what you are talking about. i didnt say anything about masculine countries.

Male fashion industry needs to design clothes and accessories that look tacticool and you'll get a lot more men spending on fashion.

@hope-cat4894

2 ай бұрын

Yep. Just like how women's pantsuits still look feminine, they need to make men's dresses look masculine. If it looks like something out of a person's humiliation forced feminization kink, nobody is going to wear it.

@whitehavencpu6813

2 ай бұрын

This 100%

@SubZero-hs9xc

2 ай бұрын

You have an idea on how men spend on that?

@jeffersonhassan4558

2 ай бұрын

Still feminine

@jagr06

2 ай бұрын

What kind of clothes and accessories?

I honestly find it weird to care too much what men or women do either way. Like if you just love masculine men that's fine but if it deeply troubles you to see a man who isn't super masculine or strong then that seems a bit pathetic. None of it should be demonised and none of it should be forced on people. Idk, as a man I'm not interested in anyone's approval of how I live my life. I'm just trying to live it true to my values, morals and ethics. To be clear, I'm directing this at anyone who pushes any idea of what men SHOULD be.

@quinncy.

2 ай бұрын

thank you for being a voice of reason. it's silly to be upset over how someone presents themselves. live and let live.

@jagr06

2 ай бұрын

@@quinncy. this is because of how they're raised, in my opinion freedom means allowing people to express themselves however non mainstream it appears to be.

@GigaChadh976

Ай бұрын

It should be demonized.

@magnetdance

Ай бұрын

Finally a sensible comment.

@rickycool6083

Ай бұрын

Not identifying an active agenda is naivety. Nobody is making you live a particular way, however, if you have a son he will be forced into this culture. And yes, there is right way to act as a man and a wrong way to act as a woman.

Always happy to see more baggage claim videos

@SubZero-hs9xc

2 ай бұрын

Always feel good to receive your daily trash

I feel like creating more accounts just to give this more likes. 100% agree with everything in this video

There was a really strong point at the end where you said: "A man in a suit is boring." I 100% agree it's tired and looks incredible. It's alot harder to pull off a new look.

@SubZero-hs9xc

2 ай бұрын

Thats to her and you

@brianthesnail3815

2 ай бұрын

Given that nobody at my workplace that regularly wears a suit its a novelty and they don't wear good suits when they do. They don't have a clue. I haven't been in a suit in the 8 months since I joined but will be in two weeks time and I will look good. Italian double twist Merino lightweight wool, Churches Oxford black lace up, Egyptian cotton shirt, Hermes tie. Yes I am 60. My colleagues are 35. We will be meeting investment bankers. I will be the testosterone in the room.

@jagr06

2 ай бұрын

I never liked male suits, they're unattractive and bland compared to how females have 1000 more variations and color schemes that makes them more attractive to wear. I wish male fashion included dresses

@alexmuenster2102

Ай бұрын

>>"A man in a suit is boring."

@GigaChadh976

Ай бұрын

@@jagr06you’re gay

As a Gen Z woman, this makes me sick. This is not attractive or healthy or good for society.

funny thing is, their portrayal of men as grumpy, silly and "broken" characters in movies adds layers to their characters and makes them far more entertaining and endearing than their female counterparts. It's literally backfiring against all the fems who want to make men look weak.

I think masculinity and femininity don't necessarily contradict one another - like strength and flexibility. You can be pretty, as a man, while still being capable and strong and assertive and masculine. I really didn't like seeing those actors in women's dresses (yuck), but in general, I wouldn't be opposed to men's fashion becoming more interesting. In the past, men used to wear wigs and make-up and high heels (for cavalry), yet I wouldn't go around calling George Washington a femboy. Also I think the infantialised and feminised men are almost always treated as jokes/pathetic, so I don't really see how the media is encouraging men to go in that direction.

@jagr06

2 ай бұрын

Well G.W clothing attire was ridiculous but it was what they called fashion back then.

@kathleenking47

2 ай бұрын

Pretty boyish mens counterpart, is a harsh looking woman People put daughters into CHARM SCHOOLS to soften their look

@truthseeker7815

Ай бұрын

Unless you are a strongman

The crazy thing is, if you look at the men performing none-traditional masculine jobs, they actually aren't feminine at all, they're just men doing jobs. My dad worked as a male nurse for 40 years. He's a stoic, Victorian gentlemen type who looks as if he was born in the wrong century, who always holds doors open for women, plays golf, and has a beard and a gold topped walking cane. I have him to thank for my love of history, especially military and engineering history. It's his belief that male nursing in Europe is a longer standing profession than female nursing, after all in the medieval period and renascence, it was the monks, not the nuns who provided the closest thing to medical care for most of the population. Even in terms of his work, he once told me as a young man he was concerned about taking care of female patients (albeit in none intimate ways). Then a ward sister told him male nurses were invaluable, since intransigent women patients who didn't want to get up, who didn't want to cooperate with medical routines and would generally make the female nurses lives difficult, would suddenly change their tune knowing a man was on the ward, wanting to be presentable, have their hair and make up done and look nice just knowing he'd be around!

@jeffersonhassan4558

2 ай бұрын

There are masculine men and there are feminine men, nothing wrong with either

@darktenor4967

2 ай бұрын

@@jeffersonhassan4558 That is true, however, my point here is that even when dealing with men who do so called "feminine", jobs, they don't do so in a necessarily feminine way. There is very little feminine about my dad despite his job. This is why this enforced feminisation and infantilization of men is pretty disgusting, it's the other extremely forced coin of the stoic girlboss architype, and just as wrong!

@jeffersonhassan4558

2 ай бұрын

@@darktenor4967 you already admitted it and I don't think you know any feminine men in your life, women are the gatekeepers of feminity,they may be the generators of it but not the gatekeepers same with men and masculinity so you can say stoic women or masculine women don't exist. I think it's just culture shock to you especially with a culture shift when this wasn't a new thing, feminine men and masculine women were much more rife in the 80s with the punk rock, rock and riot girl movement,I don't know why y'all keep acting like it's a new thing and even if it wasn't, straight people were up in arms giving their one way narrative on how to be a man and how to be a woman leaving no room for nuance,just putting everything in a box,you didn't think that was going to turn around and hit y'all in the back when people say they are tired of the one way narrative on how to be a man and how to be a woman?

its even in advertising. there's an animated commercial for some type of allergy medicine where the men are doing traditionally feminine things like shopping for flowers, while the woman is literally chopping fire wood while her husband is reclining on a bench reading to the children. Its not very subtle anymore.

@randomstranger5755

2 ай бұрын

There is nothing wrong with flowers. They are there to be enjoyed. Oh no, a woman taking charge? A man showing outward emotion and love towards his children?? God forbid! If anything, I’d wish to have a father who loved me that much. There is nothing weak about being vulnerable at times. You ever wonder why male suicide rates are so high? Because we’ve lived in a society built upon toxic masculinity, making people feel inferior for crying, and expressing genuine human emotion. Men are human. Times are exchanging. Deal with it

@SubZero-hs9xc

2 ай бұрын

Boo hoo

@candide1065

2 ай бұрын

@@SubZero-hs9xc > "you bad toxic guys can only use buzzwords!!!" > "Boo Hoo" Congratulation, you played yourself.

@candide1065

2 ай бұрын

@@randomstranger5755 Holy sh1t, so much hate, projection, daddy issues and gaslighting. I'm sorry that your dad is terrible, but don't take it out on men, Karen.

@candide1065

2 ай бұрын

@@randomstranger5755 Hope you heal from your daddy issues, your toxic femininity and your misandrism someday. Your terrible dad doesn't give you the right to hate men.

I'm not ready to trade in my man card yet.

haven't watched TV in 15 years

As a man that has worked more or less his entire life and also went to school, film school none the less i can say that every "modern person" says masculinity is undesirable but when sh*t hits the fan they scream for a guy with balls to solve the problem, this happened to me a lot of times when i was studying. Most of my schoolmates men and women were against toxic masculinity but when things went badly at the time to shoot a film i was the one that solved problems because that is what we proper dudes do, we resolve and get things in motion, we hustle, we put food on the table; that's we are programmed to do, i don't mean that women don't do this as well but it's different for guys because we many times don't get a lot of help because since we are guys we have to figure it out and that's ok but people that wants to be "modern" say we men don't struggle and have privileges when is the contrary but we don't complain about it all the time we just do our thing and keep going forward, so that's toxic masculinity for ya, we do what we must to make things happen.

This video is so needed.

@christianalcala9818

2 ай бұрын

Ewwww a 304. Begone your part of the problem

I think you hit the nail on the head: the babygirl man is neutered and SAFE, and that’s why that type of pseudo-man is so popular-because he can be managed.

The supplement ad made me so skeptical of your whole message. It was the truth I didn't want to hear. You're pandering for views and money. You don't actually care about us. You're just like everyone else.

Love all your points but it's how well you put it together that blew my mind! It's superbly arranged, perfectly paced, funny, terrifying, accurate and insightful, all in under 10 minutes. If only the professionals were half as good.🤗

@JamesBiggar

2 ай бұрын

Simp.

@SubZero-hs9xc

2 ай бұрын

Simp

@Melancholymadness62

Ай бұрын

Simp.

Emotion in men is good, but this is not emotion, its just silly

Oh, how glad I am being too old for this shit!

Hollywood COULD make well-written female characters and interesting stories that fans can fall in love with, but that takes a lot of work. Easier to just turn the males into shit so the females look more awesome by comparison/default.

I think that if feminine guys and masculine women want to present as such, that’s fine, but using that as narrative that justifies sexism is something that we should fight against at.

@jeffersonhassan4558

2 ай бұрын

How are they using that as a narrative? They are just saying these folks exists, something that they try to sweep under the rug

@candide1065

2 ай бұрын

@@jeffersonhassan4558 Hope you heal someday and touch grass.

@jeffersonhassan4558

2 ай бұрын

@@candide1065 take your own advice bot

@rickycool6083

Ай бұрын

@@jeffersonhassan4558 Yeah, just cause you play the agenda doesn't mean we do.

Damn I thought his son had died or was in an coma with the first scene. However the kid got his leg broken, and his dad broke down like this. If I had broken my leg while driving drunk all I would have gotten was an warning that the moment I got out of the hospital I be in for an world of pain. Which is in the best case scenario where the only one injured was me, and u had not caused any property damage besides to my own car. The second scene is just fucked up. As the moment I hear am mom say that I be calling child services. Also I don't think the state of men goes downhill that quickly. As only those with higher education usually become like that. Those who have jobs where you work with your hands seem to still be fine.

About shampoo, it's a common myth that we are using it for face wash, conditioner, body wash and lotion. We are also using it for dish and orcloth washing if needed

@webx135

2 ай бұрын

Don't forget shaving cream.

@ovider6625

2 ай бұрын

And mouth wash.

I remember when I shattered my skull playing soccer and my dad just calmly jogging towards me as I lay on the field. While everyone else was losing their minds and women were yelling, my dad just calmly asked if I was ok, started taking control of the situation, and his calm command of the situation put me at ease during a really scary moment in my life. I’ll never forget it. He recently told me that once I was out of the hospital and home he went into our basement and cried by himself for a bit because he had been so scared. He refused to let me or the family see it. Thats how a man deals with his shit.

This is not even how a decent woman would cry when her son broke his foot. Thank you, wonderful video.

I'm Gen Jones and have fought with weight loss my adult life. I finally moved to Texas and my Doctors determined my testosterone and thyroid hormones were very low. After cautiously entering hormone therapy, I found my fluctuating anxiety and emotional moods were calmed and challenges that I fought through intimidation from were suddenly not so frightening. After a few years laying off ultra processed foods and adding essential vitamins and minerals along with Berberine and amino acids and precursors, I dropped weight, gained strength, think faster and clearer and have more empathy for everyone around me because my mind ian't a place of endurance and torment. I'm hoping to wean myself off hormones if I can maintain normal and healthy levels. Men need to mentor younger men and sons especially in the area of managing aggression. The perverted media blitz purposely attempts to make healthy male friendships awkward when we NEED bands of brothers. LOVE this content Baggage Claim!

Bless you. This so great. From everything in the video to even the sponsorship.

Hey, I support this 100%! There are plenty of women out there that still want real men. Less competition for those of us that get up in the morning and give our balls a tug!

While visiting my grandmother, I mentioned to my sister how the guest bathrooms had 6 different shampoos each. Wouldn't it be easier to just stock a 5-in-one? My sister looked at me with horror and said, "That is the most _guy_ thing I've ever heard." I still laugh about it. 😅

@jagr06

2 ай бұрын

Not to mention the fact anything that has more than 1 thing in it is ineffective at it's job. Better to have 5 different shampoos than 5 in one.

Despite my moniker, I'm a woman... and I have never been less attracted men than I am now. I feel nothing. I'm not a lesbian, but my generation and younger are getting worse and worse. We need fathers in the home.

It’s not just emasculating men, those flashy accessories, to me, also scream LUXURY and WEALTHY CLASSES men who don’t need to do labor works, which I guess many of Soft-Girls are dreamed of because of the wealth they wish to gain access to. These extensive accessories and fashion trends clothing are impractical to most men, especially those in labor works. But wait, men in labor don’t existed in feminists perception, ain’t they!

I am a man. I dont even care anymore about being "manly". I realized life is inherently meaningless, our existence is a seemingly bizzare impossiblity (yet here we are), and all things including the universe itself will expire and be fed to the void. With that being said, I still believe in being a strong provider, protector and creator of meaning within my own life that is "right" for me. Does that make me masculine? Does that make me feminine? Does any of it really even matter anyways? I think the void must think we all taste the same in the end. Just be yourself.

@truthseeker7815

Ай бұрын

Well… that’s really a comment

@lilacghoste8366

Ай бұрын

You are too awaken for this world I bet you hate money as well

@truthseeker7815

Ай бұрын

@@lilacghoste8366, hate is also a mundane attachment

@locopollo2042

Ай бұрын

You are 10 steps ahead of us all

I'm so thankful my boyfriend is into Westerns and Classic Rock, he got his influence from REAL Men! They literally neutered Male characters in media to get a herd of easily controlled drones

I get what you're saying but hollywood has always attracted "artistic leaning" men shall we say. Most men and young men in the real world don't actually look up to babygirl men. That is strictly for the benefit of young women who tend to like non threatening androgynous men because it's a phase before womanhood many go through. It is concerning that they are artificially trying to make that phase permanent.

@lilacghoste8366

Ай бұрын

Why should man look threatening?

@Fauwkes

25 күн бұрын

@@lilacghoste8366so he can’t be victimized

Im crying, it was really just a broken leg??? 😂 I swear for how he was reacting his son was dying or something, such a drama queen. That clip from Idris Elba in that tuxedo really did it for me ❤ good video btw

@sianais

2 ай бұрын

I thought the boy was dead.

@DavidMartinez-ce3lp

2 ай бұрын

​@siana3405 yeah, same. I thought he was recapping the loss of his son. A f*king broken leg? 😂

@baab7025

2 ай бұрын

Is kinda sad really, because that scene with Allen crying was really perfect for heartbreaking scene about telling Carrie about his sons final moments

Really scarry... society needs men to thrive...

@SubZero-hs9xc

2 ай бұрын

Booo hoo, some men dont dress how i want, society! Booo hoo

@lilacghoste8366

Ай бұрын

Man are thriving by not marrying or being married. They should atleast get a friend

I have to just say that the scene in Ted Lasso is played for laughs as you have Roy Kent, the older more masculine man there as a foil to Jamie Tartt being this adult boy

I seriously fought tears when you cut to young Luke and said "the heroes young men look up to" cause it's so true, and the effort to take that away from young men and boys is nothing short of evil!

There's a trope called 'Manly Tears', where a stoic, strong male character shows emotion or cries. The idea is that the situation is so sad that even a masculine man will show grief. But the caveat is that it is a) deserved, and b) dignified. The strong man who can show vulnerability when it is warranted is still badass, because he's human and is capable of human emotions. But what we're seeing here is undignified blubbering and emotional incontinence. I initially thought you were way too hard on the first guy as it seemed his son was on life-support and critically wounded, and then you learn he only broke a limb, and THIS is the guy's reaction...?

@emate8422

Ай бұрын

True, you can cry with your friend or father but never along women, they gonna use it against you, I know from my own example, after teen years they sometimes bring up this one time. Cry, let it go and then think of solution.

I once believed that all body soaps/washes/etc were all the same thing. But....... I grew a beard and I DO have a fancy beard wash and conditioner and it makes ALL the difference. Never use normal shampoo on the beard.

The best advice I was ever told was, "Don't listen when they tell you this. They will call you toxic but that is the man they will want." The soy boys will be told by women yes yes but will not choose them. They will be told, "I see you as my girlfriend."😂

Loving these frequent uploads!

Bring masculinity back

Isn’t this some sort of wish fulfilment? Weak people are intimidated by strength so undermine strength to compensate for being weak, because they’re incapable of being strong. Of course they’ll never admit being weak, they’ll just attack strength as being ‘toxic’. Basically it’s immaturity because it takes strength to be mature.

Thanks for yet another great video, Baggage Claim! 😊

Soft men will bring hard times, and ¿who will crave for hard men to fight those times?

@SubZero-hs9xc

2 ай бұрын

Bruh

@SubZero-hs9xc

2 ай бұрын

I have my doubts you all are "hard men"

God the Mummy with Brandon Fraser was so good. Check it out if you haven’t

BC, you continue is to grow as an editor, and your scripts are right! This one is Spot-On!

@SubZero-hs9xc

2 ай бұрын

Ass lickinh

The ending killed it for me. I'm not sure who wrote this video, but this person either doesn't understand masculinity or just plain hates it. I agree with most of the things said, but please, people, get your heads out of your asses - the way a man looks has nothing to do with him feeling more or less of a man, in case if he doesn't doubt his masculinity. It's funny how the script writer here tried to create a poor determinist dichotomy, like there is nothing else around. Even if I wear a dress, it doesn't mean that I feel less "manly". That is what people around me might think, and they are terrified to acknowledge the opposite. You might check True History of the Kelly Gang to see what I mean. Ironically, this video is, as it seems, made to release men from some braces by putting them in more braces.

@eagle162

2 ай бұрын

If you wear more female clothing for no other reason besides free will, you are definitely more on the feminist side.

@BelaFox-vt5xu

2 ай бұрын

@@eagle162 Even if I despise feminists? No, I'm not on their side. You're wrong.

@jeffersonhassan4558

2 ай бұрын

​@@eagle162his point flew over your head,no one is a 100% masculine or feminine and just because he presents as feminine doesn't mean he doesn't have masculine traits

@bakutie

2 ай бұрын

right?

@burningice8451

2 ай бұрын

Exactly. You would think that a man wearing whatever the hell he wants and being unapologetic about it would be considered manly , but not in the eyes of this chick

I've seen a lot of people use the term "Babygirl" for men specifically on TikTok and it makes me cringe every time.

I honestly don't mind if heroes lost faith or they are depressed. What I do mind is that they never recover from a troubled state. Perfect example of this working successfully is Jim Kirk in Wrath of Khan. He starts the film depressed about his age but he ends the film getting back into the spirit of adventure and life itself.

Turkesterone? Really Baggage Claim? Please chose your sponsors more wisely ☹️

@BaggageClaim

2 ай бұрын

Why? It’s highly recommended by Andrew Huberman. And my husband uses it and swears by it. That’s why I chose this sponsor.

Excellent video as always! Thanks!

Baggage Claim I just want to say that I love your stance on men and masculinity. I think we need more voices in this time telling men that they can be men, and you are doing that, so thank you.

Fantastic video as well and the conncections you are drawing are exceptionally insightful.

@SubZero-hs9xc

2 ай бұрын

Simp

@azren2255

2 ай бұрын

@@SubZero-hs9xc infant

@azren2255

2 ай бұрын

@@SubZero-hs9xc infant

@azren2255

2 ай бұрын

@@SubZero-hs9xc don't think so

You are the hero we need. There are plenty of men on you tube who talk about this issue but it's so nice to hear this from a woman's side! You are 100% right yet again. And it's sad that the same women who cheer on men who act feminine, would never consider dating one of these men. And if they do, they treat him like crap. Women like masculine men. And it's a sad state we're in that saying is controversial.

@SubZero-hs9xc

2 ай бұрын

It isnt, you guys just have a problem in people doing different than what you Want amd pretend this narrative of being oppressed

@simpdefendmlady6579

2 ай бұрын

What means 'masculine'. It doesn't even qualify as a word, more like a sound that is void of any meaning

There was a time when royals were the model to follow, in terms of class, manners , the way they dress, elegance…

Not only in film and TV but I'm noticing the feminization of men in music has been pushed heavily in the last few years, especially when record labels started pushing kpop groups like BTS in the west where the male members look highly feminine and wear makeup, have had plastic surgery and dye their hair pastel colors. And then you have your Harry Styles and Jarrod Letos. I know androgyny in music goes back to the 50's with the likes of Little Richard to Mick Jager, Bowie, Boy George, hair metal bands etc but it seems a little bit more common in pop music culture than it used to be back in the day. Even rappers are wearing dresses now.