So way back in 2018 tdm said cases were DEAD... so i bought a few 100 of each. Breakouts for .10 cent Canadian ect. So maybe its time to buy some more :) tdm is my bottom signal

@DetectiveMikeHunt.

8 ай бұрын

You’re so much smarter than him man you’re a really cool guy can I be your friend

@user-gz1nv6nw3q

8 ай бұрын

I believe, he sometimes makes videos like this for his personal financial benefit. Cause some fear, to lower the prices. Buy many cases, wait for the price to increase, and sell them

@terrifictacoman

8 ай бұрын

@@user-gz1nv6nw3q it does seem like what he is saying at times is an attempt to mess with the market price of something. I’ve gotten that vibe as well sometimes. However, I don’t think Heyzeus has enough of a reach to manipulate the market, in turn, I think he is brutally honest when it comes to expressing his opinions. Whether they be right or wrong..

@tvojamamaomg

8 ай бұрын

@@user-gz1nv6nw3q he is making pointless video for youtube money it has nothing to do with manipulating prices hes not smart enough for that

@_sIash

8 ай бұрын

​@@user-gz1nv6nw3q ofcourse

Glad you covered this. I noticed it myself when I went to sell my dropped revolution case expecting a dollar, and not 60 cents

Dude intentionally scares the market so he can buy it low

Could it be possible that a lot of the crypto bro's werent just holding high tier skins but also a ton of cases?

@stealthysaucepan2016

8 ай бұрын

More likely investors just rotating out of cases and into crypto

my friend bought many cases back in 2019 for cents and we all laughed at him. last month he sold all those and bought talon knife, its almost for 30 dollars

@Dubleclick44

8 ай бұрын

Future Bill Gates right here

@dommmmm7544

8 ай бұрын

Imagine buying 100k cases when they were 3 cents and selling them right now

@RandomEsports1

8 ай бұрын

i bought cs skins back in 2015... i bought bitcoin at 200$ in 2015... my friends laughed at me. now i am buying all nfts. they still laughing at me. nothing new

@DrunkbearZ

8 ай бұрын

@@RandomEsports1 bro i get bitcoin and cs skins but nfts??? dont know about chief

@RandomEsports1

8 ай бұрын

thats where everyone will go wrong. nfts are literally cs go skins 2015@@DrunkbearZ

the more cases drop, the more i will buy 🚨

@RandomEsports1

8 ай бұрын

damn he went there

You completely skipped over the fact that we have the autumn sale going on and that the winter sale is right around the corner. Historically during big sales cases are the first thing that get mass sold off. Also this autumn sale had the release of OLED Steam Deck and the discount of the normal Steam Decks. This absolutely caused a lot of downward pressure on an already fragile market.

@brennancondon3357

8 ай бұрын

No it’s cs2 the game was launched with less content than csgo and gameplay wise it’s 10x worse than csgo. There are less actual buyers and the cases being opened are streamers opening 10,000 cases a day. Actual players are not buying cases because skins are worthless, if they want a skin they buy it outright.

@toastedninja4081

8 ай бұрын

@@brennancondon3357 Sounds like you just had higher expectations then what Valve ever promised. I can understand why Valve removed unpopular game modes. Flying Scoutsman/Danger zone was totally dead and I only ever managed to que up with bots recently. Valve has always been a "Gameplay first" development team. And I think the CS2 gameplay runs just as fluid as CSGO did. Did you ever play CSGO when it first came out? Because I did, and it was literally in the same shape as CS2 is now. Barebones with focus on the gameplay first. The new game modes, operations and all that good stuff will come in due time. You just gotta be patient, and if you need to take a break from CS right now thats fine too. Because you know damn well as soon as they announce a new Operation or something your ass will be right back to playing.

@brennancondon3357

8 ай бұрын

@@toastedninja4081 I have been playing cs since source my guy, I knew cs2 would not live up to the hype. I probably spent 10 hours out of the 7k I have in the game on the other game modes, I understand how bad the csgo launch was. That being said gameplay wise it took a step back with how bad peekers advantage is, the fact that for whatever reason they just took maps away like train and cache that had high play rates, gun spray feels awful, pros are not even buying awps on ct side because run and gun and peekers advantage is so bad, the rank system feels pointless, and many other issues. Valve has always been gameplay focused yet the gameplay on launch still felt like it was in an alpha state. They have had to do almost daily patches to fix game breaking bugs, and there seems to be more false positive bans then actually cheaters getting banned. I will always love cs and will always play it, but your fooling yourself if you think gameplay wise it’s up to par with what csgo has been for the past 5-10 years.

I just assumed that CS2 created a bubble that was bound to pop and things are settling

I think, since the way the drops work, where you don’t have an increase in drops after a certain amount of hours, it doesn’t correlate well with playing time. People play let’s say 20% less maybe, but a lot play just enough to get the drop so it results in marginally less drops. I personally used to play more, but now I play just enough to get the drop because I am curious to what will drop (even if it’s 99.9% shit ).

I am over paying $3.85 just for a key to unbox a 12 cent blue!

the copium of case investors, investing in infinite supply items lol

maybe if they added variety content back into the game like danger zone or war games, more people would play the game, which means more people would want skins. CS2 is so empty and lackluster at the moment, and I think that is the driving factor in all of this. Thoughts?

@nemonym711

8 ай бұрын

Thinking im gonna get myself a cup of coffee and samich.

@frozen9065

8 ай бұрын

Yea, but cs2 still has more active players then any steam game at pretty much any moment.

What about every second Jonny pulling cases out of their storage's to buy skins 😂

The course correction is finally here

Winter sale will be here soon, so i think the case prices will go down even more... But i hope that the next CS2 Major will bring something new to the game and prices will go up again

@RandomEsports1

8 ай бұрын

what about black friday sale?

@UNUSUALstrangeVINTAGEgenuine

8 ай бұрын

Don't forget operations. Over time they will go up, when they are pulled from the active dropping pool. Breakout used to be cheap and one point too.

another possibility is some whales of these cases are selling off a bunch of their supply thinking CS2 is going to die, so theyre undercutting eachother, which is happening with skins as well. that wouldnt solely account for almost a 50% drop, but its probably still a factor. would explain the big supply increase lately

@joec7130

8 ай бұрын

As with any drop investors are gonna try to get out, it all adds to the spiral. It’s starting to level out now it seems like these past couple days a lot of cases have been hovering rather than dropping.

People play enough to get a weekly drop now, before cs2 they were not guaranteed a case drop for the same amount of playtime. Before I was getting 1-2 cases per month now I get one every week.

@Rudy97

8 ай бұрын

Plus, the amount of players has gone down but how much those who remain has gone up (everyone playing enough for drops).

Clear as mud

Also, people see the market crash > They lose trust in the market > They sell of their investments, including cases > Sudden influx of a lot of cases > Case prices go further down, regardless of opening amount

@Maksimszz

8 ай бұрын

Yeah it's just a mix of supply and demand, demand goes down while supply goes up (more cases listed on market) and in the end this result happens

@paliewallie

8 ай бұрын

Also and I am suprised Heyzues did not even mention this, but a steam sale is ongoing. People will sell their skins for games heavily during a steam sale

no way people are still unaware that people are just selling their case investments, which is why they are going down so much

@TDMHeyzeusClips

8 ай бұрын

At yes, because people (other than Fano) invest in actively dropping cases, that makes sense.

i think they're just going back to the price pre-cs2 hype.

TF2 items went down about 30% same with PUBG items, its not just cs2.

I sold mine for a LE steamdeck, lol. Yeah maybe it was 300-400 down from max, but still 100 up from when I bought em, basically I got a discount on a thing I was already gonna get.

Seems like normal supply and demand, reaching the equilibrium point of what people are willing to pay for a case.

Things are pretty stagnant in CS2 no new content no new maps or skins , a operation would have been nice to keep players interested Right now it feels like stripped down less polished version of CSGO missing so many game modes and new maps And tbh I liked the previous system of random case drops so we didn't have predictable drop rates Now we are on guarantee a single case per week so there's no other reason to play(for me) after leveling up once

Time to buy

Bought fractures 0.70c now 0.5c

Could Valve been creating cases to sell, so they can earn more despite people cashing out the skins on the market (outside the steam)?

Relationships between these metrics are not strictly linear and they may be lagged as well. Either way, if you go check the volume of cases being sold on the market, we're having unusual spikes lately, probably initiated by whales selling to buy orders to cash out rapidly. Following that, panic selling ensued.

broken fang to the moon broken fang to the moon broken fang to the moon broken fang to the moon broken fang to the moon broken fang to the moon

nah, its just a lot of people bought cases before for a cs2 investment, they are seeing now that prices are droping down soo they are selling off their cases too.

I got dropped a CSGO Weapons case last week, should I sell ASAP?

Part of resent drop might be due to the sale that’s happening

people are farming them now, theres a video of a guy farming 10 cs2 games at once and it took him 13 mins to get 10 cases

A lot of people could also just have bulk-sold their cases, kinda like they did when the anubis collection came out

its probably just people who stacked up cases or were hording them so far just decided get rid of them

The farmers are abusing deathmatch with a full lobby of bots on office lol I joined one started killing and got kicked instantly

Case drops have increased on average, now that you get a guaranteed case per week as long as you even level* up once, even someone who plays very casually will atleast get one.

@TDMHeyzeusClips

8 ай бұрын

that happened before CS2, and it made prices go up by killing case farming.

@DocSnicklefritz

8 ай бұрын

@@TDMHeyzeusClips that still doesn't affect the casuals who are hopping back into the game, they're less prone to buying a random case off the market if they have one after a couple games for free every week, they aren't case farming anyway. Nor are they the ones opening hordes of cases to where they'd be inflating the market, I do agree that skins being less valuable affects that demographic way more than the casual demographic.

@Metalshark100

8 ай бұрын

I doubt case drops have increased, you used to be able to get 2 to 3 case drops a week in csgo

@leonardotheuseless4188

8 ай бұрын

​@@DocSnicklefritzmost cases are farmed by bots

@DocSnicklefritz

8 ай бұрын

@@leonardotheuseless4188 I know, which is the entire reason they limited it to 1 case per account per week. Doesn't affect my initial point though.

Well I just opened 300 cases and I'm a player from 2015 who got these for like 3 cents. Had no idea they were worth anything

the value of case depends on the content within. skins are being mass opened so the roi is worse than before on most cases (not inlcuding golds). my opinion on why cases are down

I think the 48hr pending balance in steam everytime you sell something has affected it aswel. You can't sell any skins you unbox to open more cases anymore without waiting. Also if I get a case dropped I'll open it , of I don't have balance I'd sell a skin to buy the key. Now I gotta wait I can't be arsed.

@pickleadaykeepsthedoctoraw5542

8 ай бұрын

It's not every sale. Most of the sales that I have go to pending are small sales like cases, whereas bigger ones (>5) seem to have a good chance not to go into pending. Only had one >100 sale ever go into pending.

@ranperu7786

8 ай бұрын

@@pickleadaykeepsthedoctoraw5542 funny enough it doesn't even matter to me. I tried it multiple of times where I sold under $1 items for buy orders and it would be pending. So then I listed them and they sold but were still in pending. Then I tried selling a $40 skin in buy order and then i got it pending. Lastly I listed a $40 again, sold in a day but still went into pending. I feel like 99% of sales now go into pending now which is so annoying

Steam Sale and many games having in-game sales can explain this. I know I sold about 20 bucks of cs skins and cases for g-coin and a cheap game.

Imagine a steam sale.. what is more liquid than cases

I don't think it's more drops, but rather existing supplies being sold off by people leaving CS followed by panic sellers.

I almost find every server empty these days in casual and even in death match, maybe because of this prices are falling and not only that because of autumn sale many players just dumping their stuff to grab new games on discount.

This is probably due to the common person investing in cases and held on too long. Now they are panic selling to get what they can back.

Every HeyZeus video, "the price is changing, it doesn't make sense. But the skins market doesn't follow fundamentals. So who knows what will happen." Man every single one of em lol

@pickleadaykeepsthedoctoraw5542

8 ай бұрын

My dude really said no one invested in actively dropping cases, despite them being a good investment for a time. "At yes, because people (other than Fano) invest in actively dropping cases, that makes sense." - HeyZeus Making 400%-600% (10x if you sold on the sparkles manipulation thing) on actively dropping cases! So stupid, no one would do that EVER! Buying 2k cases at .10 cents or so each, makes no sense!

Crypto goes up, skins/cases goes down. History repeats itself

New to the game, I could’ve sworn my 8 or so random cases I’ve gotten from drops were worth more :(

Less people playing - less people opening cases - more cases available - cases cheaper

I bought 30 Riptide cases like 3 months ago now. Still holding but shouldn't have

@chairshoe81

8 ай бұрын

theyll go back up

@henrym.g9546

8 ай бұрын

Just Wait a Bit longer

@Rosterized

8 ай бұрын

its a completely discontinued case, its price in the LONG term is only up as long as cs stays popular

I think case farmers found a way to grind cases, in the African servers you see bot farms in all of the casual and DM match lobbies on unpopular maps.

just dont panic sale, invest money you can afford to lose, and wait.

Case farming is still a huge issue

Here's my theory. i think it could be people cashing out their case investments. The market is crashing and people are realizing they have made a good % profit thus getting their money out

Is It worth selling all cases right now? Or should i hold onto them and watch the price go up or down?

@pickleadaykeepsthedoctoraw5542

8 ай бұрын

I'd hold depending on what cases you have. If you aren't hurting for money, the cases will go back up for the most part. Some cases may have been overhyped and will take a LOOOONG time to go back up. But crashes cause a positive feedback loop (positive doesn't mean good) of sellers dumping. Likely they'll start to rise again slowly and then crash again (holders selling/new operation) then rise normally. I could be completely wrong and they'll never recover, but that seems unlikely. That would take new laws/regulations hitting Valve that does that.

Why are the skin prices droping?

Every monday I see thousands of bots invade South African servers with 400ms ping. These bots last until about Tuesday/Wednesday and are gone again until the following Monday. Its expected when people are farming skins/cases in mass like this

Probably people who hoarded cases mass unboxing it

Maybe a lot of people panic selling their case investments. Irrespective of case openings , cases are lower in price. It is also possible that less people invest in cases, and therefore the case prices go down.

@koalasevmeyenkola9105

8 ай бұрын

i think this makes sense, i wonder why he didn't mention it

in some ways i think skins/cases prices are going down is because of christmas and new year

ok

price of the skins dropped so the price of the case also drops

Saw a dude with over 700 cases going back to the first ones released, valued at 4300 euros yesterday. And I don't think hes aware that he could sell them :D

@manco999

8 ай бұрын

Rookie Numbers

I wonder why...

If there are less people playing the game, less cases are being opened, less demand leads to lower price.

just another half year market dip. As soon as the game starts growing again and i believe it will, soon and for the next 10 years, the market will grow aswell

I bought some cases 2-3 weeks ago. Should have kept my balance, I lost around $500 :/

@the1abstrakt

8 ай бұрын

Don’t sell n you don’t lose homie

@BeckenPowerPL

8 ай бұрын

@@the1abstrakt ikr, I bought it all for long term, could have bought much more tho if only I held the balance on steam and buff. But I sold many CS2 skins like dopplers, fades etc. before the crash to buy those cases so according to my copium, they cancel eachother out so it's all fine.

3 Options not 2... people with massive stashes of cases are unloading onto the market, driving prices down. Conspiracy theory, it might even be Valve..

people are cashing out because they always do in november

damn i sell mine when shit about to go down 🤣 luck is in my side but my health doesnt. i use my profit for my health and its save me 🤣

Maybe a big whale decided to cash out some cases?

@alexanderall-wf3zi

8 ай бұрын

Seems like it

Its actually quite logical, as all those factors are related.

The reason why cases went up because it is winter and all people are inside playing cs2 and getting drops or selling their already existing cases in their inventory. This pattern that every winter prices go down is always the case. In summer is the price at lowest. Its was every time the same, exept the cs2 hype their it was all cursed .

just investors selling millions of cases

If feels like they did to counterstrike what they did to halo infinite. Few game modes, few maps, zero new content.

What's with the rapid rises and falls since October? I guess these are bots trying to sell high and buy low, over and over again. I do got the feeling this is market manipulation.

Maybe people are opening more cases because the price of the cases are lower?

i think that the cs2 news that the game is just mid made people sell their cases and that is why prices went down

@psylina

8 ай бұрын

It's mainly because there's a sale rn but that's also a contributing factor

Maybe next time check the WEEKLY openings instead of monthly. In the last 7 days, only 5,5 million cases have been opened, which would be around 23 million monthly. Basically the same as pre CS2.

i think alot of mass holders are dumping taking profits atm, u can see it clearly in agents the price movements are just oo odd and most of the people selling are selling alot of multipuls same shit in stock markets, prices are way higher than they were months ago

its simple, people who mass invested in cases are slowly selling now, be it to buff/trade sites or steam market

Are BOTS really gone?

I don't care what drops in price. I'm collection anything. And will hold it for 10 years+

and maybe crypto have something to do with the current CS 2 market, it has always been when crypto prices go up, the prices of everything in the CS2 market are go down, and vice versa.

people were hoarding since march and a lot of people are getting out

People getting unbanned ? Case hunters flooded the market not asany case opening is happening

I think that the most obvious reason people arent buying cases is because the game isnt fun. They dont see as much value for something that isnt fun

BLACK FRIDAY DUDDDEEEE

..... Cases drops in price bcs : 1. People collect money to buy new OLED Steamdeck - main reason. 2. People prefer to sell stuff from CS and save money becouse they know if they wont stop now then the lose more later. That is all. Sooner or later situation will be stable

i fuckin bought bravo 1 month ago and now im fuckin broke but still hold

@Sos-Rambo

8 ай бұрын

you were broke before you bought that case, 100$ invest shouldnt cripple someones finances.

@juanfecitohiuchdick

8 ай бұрын

@@Sos-Rambo tru

@Sos-Rambo

8 ай бұрын

@@juanfecitohiuchdick

talking about CS2 Problems that got fixed long time, nearly only cheating is the main problem right now. If you dont beleave then just watch Blast last days, games were smooth.

time to buy in never listen to these youtubers keep saying thing like this never trust them guys

There is always a lag between the actions of the public and statistical changes. People were not selling their cases, when they were stable, or increasing in prices. As skins started dropping in price, people started selling their cases, or turning them into now cheaper skins. Unlike the expensive skin market, which is just a portion of the player base, case total comes from the player base overall. So the skin market going down was a chance for a lot of players to finally get the stuff they wanted, while the demand for cases did not grow. The statistics about the amounts being opened and dropped are useful here only to describe the process by which the price drop will be slowed down, not determined.

I think you missed the part when CS2 launched. F2P players coming doesn't get any CASE drops unless they buy prime. And I think, investors are cashing out. that's why the influx of cases are coming in

@TDMHeyzeusClips

8 ай бұрын

No, that's been a thing for years now.

Account Creation and Prime Purchases 4th Q Boost for Valve. Bots farming every account = market being flooded. Also, Not going to open my cases till game is fixed with ID verification and valid anti-Cheat. ID Verified Keeps Smurf Accounts out of Ranked 1 man 50 accounts in top 1000. Keeps Banned Players out of the game. Them must verify ID again and fail because of banned. Until this happens, I'm not opening any to support the game and selling on market to drive prices down.

Buy Low Sell High remember Guys CS Gamblings Addicts never quit they just take a Break. I am gonna wait for Dreams Nightmare to get lower and buying some cheap Prime Cases. Rare Cases are pretty good if you want it to be more stable as example the Dangerzone crashed from 1€ to 0.80€

Case farmers are still farming cases because when i joined a lobby on Wednesday of death match the same thing was going on as it was previously going on with flying scotsman so case farmer def found a way to farm cases in cs2 (and this was the first happend to me since cs2 release) btw i was on dubai server at 9am in my country

Mr. Buttlicker, our prices have never been lower!

the csgo market is finally returning to old prices, every cs youtuber "the market is crashing"