When I was a child I was constantly hearing, "the end is near". Several years later my dad told me that when he was a child he heard the same story. I'm willing to bet that my grandfather would've said the same thing.

@tealx2014

3 жыл бұрын

Yes!

@srebalanandasivam9563

2 жыл бұрын

But please don't pass it down to your children and grandchildren

@arturovillaluz2053

2 жыл бұрын

@@srebalanandasivam9563 Thanks to us our planet's environment is a mess. Our children and grandchildren are doomed to live under those conditions.

@skronked

2 жыл бұрын

@@arturovillaluz2053 there's the ultimate irony. We'll mess the planets environment up so bad... it will be the end.

@skronked

2 жыл бұрын

I think this guy is the true lama!

My dad and grandad used to argue prophecy at dinner like some families argue politics. Was legitimately scared of being left behind.

@kamion53

2 жыл бұрын

@Religion is Poisonous are those two words related as stemming from the same root?

@kamion53

2 жыл бұрын

@Religion is Poisonous thank you for this very serious answer, it shows that cynism does not work well in writing as my post was intended.

@lolabunny6364

2 жыл бұрын

Same here. I was so intrigued by the beast that rises out of the sea. Was disappointed when I realized it was all made up/allegorical.

@jonnyw82

2 жыл бұрын

I grew up terrified the apocalypse was imminent, I’d be left behind and the UN was on the verge of invading the US and implementing a one world government

@PoeLemic

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonnyw82 Yeah, seems like you grew up Christian just like me. I believed some really crazy shit, but now, I'm glad that I'm a non-believer. Now, life is so simple.

From a time I could remember, my grandfather would be yammering on about "the end times." He died in 2018, I'm now 46 (almost 47) and we're all still here....

@PoeLemic

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, all still here ...

@Dejawolfs

2 жыл бұрын

eh. yammer on about the "end times" long enough, and sooner or later it's gonna strike.

@boomanchu2

2 жыл бұрын

Think that's been a long time, go check out "The Great Disappointment", perhaps the biggest failure of Jesus' reappearance.

@Pushing_Pixels

Жыл бұрын

@عدالت_حقیقت_وحدت Give it up with the Ba'hai stuff. No one is buying it.

Gotta dig people who believe in religion. They are constantly making predictions that never happen, are always wrong, yet billions of people still believe this mindlessness...Religion, the king of false promises...

@lennomenno

3 жыл бұрын

Religious people own the patent to Cognitive Dissonance.

My grandfather's favorite thing to say is "we are living in the end times." The reason he said it was because he hates the state of the world and hopes it will end soon.

@Pushing_Pixels

Жыл бұрын

People been saying the same thing, for the same reason, for more than two thousand years.

This was truly and utterly profound! Sent freakin’ chills up my spine. And the humility displayed by Dr Tabor is something worth aspiring to. And thanks to Derrick for making this happen!

@tonybasoni8443

3 жыл бұрын

MK,....tabor knows nothing, you are listening and believing a spiritually dead man.

@user-nt4wc7ix7j

3 жыл бұрын

Tony the Jabroni, lying again! Let’s give him a hand folks! 👏

@Muhammadtime

6 ай бұрын

​@@tonybasoni8443Ezekiel said jews would burn fuel from dead soldiers for 7 years. That never happened 😅

@Moodboard39

21 күн бұрын

​@@tonybasoni8443how so ?! U saying he doesn't make good compelling arguments

@RepentofYourFakeChristia-wr7fq

21 күн бұрын

@@Moodboard39 ,...If anyone does not understand how and why this man is a fraud, they don't because like him, they are spiritually dead and blind. No amount of Biblical truth given to a spiritually dead and blind person will mean nor change a thing, God has blinded you all. As Luke Ch. 16 tells us, there is a barrier (gulf) in between the spiritually alive and the spiritually dead. Even if one rose from the dead you would still not believe. This man is nothing but the blind leading the even more blind. Only God can open your blind eyes if it is his will to do so. I cannot make you see truth, I can only tell you, you are being deceived.

reminds me of the joke I heard Hitch tell about asking the old man standing at the main gate of town gazing out, "what are you doing?" "my job. They pay me to keep a watch for the messiah". "really...how's that going?" "steady work" says he...

Dear Derek. I have been enjoying and learning a lot from your wonderful videos. I admire the way you carry these interviews, always with respect, with an openness for knowledge and with such grace, and I'm thankful that you make all this available for us. I did not know, until this weekend, about your extraordinary journey that you share in your other channel. I just wanted to say that I now have even more respect and admiration for what you do. You are an amazing guy and an inspiration. You are Mythvision (add the dramatic voice over) but on top of that, you are a legend Mr. Lambert.

I remember having to study the books of Revelation as a JWS, and they still believe that things are literally going to happen. They believe that they are the chosen ones and that everyone but them will die during gods great war. I like Dr. Tabor saying that our end is when we die! Great interview Derek.

@LiberatedMind1

3 жыл бұрын

Nut jobs they are.

@carmelabarujel6611

3 жыл бұрын

That's what my mother says. Lol.

@tonybasoni8443

3 жыл бұрын

,.....jeneb52,.....God has a chosen people (and they are not the JW"s) and everyone but them will be deceived by people with no actual intelligence like tabor. He is leading you all to the slaughter. He knows nothing about God or the truth of the Bible. He is 100% Biblically bankrupt.

@jenburlock377

3 жыл бұрын

@@tonybasoni8443 The writers of the bible were composing the history as they saw it during that time period! We don't live during that time period, but it's a free country if you want to believe that the book is the holy word of god its your right to.. But what qualifications do you have to say that about someone who has studied the book for his whole life? I understand that the cult of jws have so many things wrong, I was in that cult so I have seen many changes - getting weirder and weirder! I am now an atheist, but I love history and especially what actually happened during this time period, and even before the Bible was written! Expand your thinking ability, don't be like a robot being feed information that says this is the truth like jws are.

@tonybasoni8443

3 жыл бұрын

@@jenburlock377 ,.....Wrong. The writers of the Bible were writing exactly what God caused them to write. The Bible is written by God and not by men. God used men to put the words on the paper (Yes, it wasnt actually paper) , but there are no words in the Bible that did not come from God. You do live during the time period when every word in the Bible is relevant to you. This has nothing to do with what I want to believe, but only with what the truth is. The fact that this 100% ungodly man has studied the Bible his whole life means nothing. He is a 100% spiritually dead man, he knowns nothing about God or the truth of the Bible. It is only those few that are spiritually alive because Jesus raised them from their spiritual deadness that are qualified to give you the actual truth of God and his word. These few are not in/of any church, they are outside of it as the entire church is 100% apostate. You always were an atheist, everyone in every church is an atheist. The worlds and churches real religion is the atheist religion of scientism. The only actual Christians are not in any church and are the only ones who are not atheists. All churches and religions are under the authority of the God hating worlds manmade religion of scientism. It is the one world religion. You are 100% blind, lost, and deceived, and have everything wrong. The only truth there is, is the Bible. Read it for yourself and do not listen to anyone from any church, or any so called scholar.

Grandpa spent THOUSANDS of dollars on 'end times' telemarketing. Thousands. In stead of providing for his family, and ensuring that they had funds when he died, all he left my grandma with was those goddamn tapes.

@stevehauk

3 жыл бұрын

*IT DIDN'T FAIL, HE MISUNDERSTANDS IT.* The NT is replete with the fact his kingdom is a *HEAVENLY KINGDOM.*

@JoseGAyala-lf7cx

3 жыл бұрын

That's sad!! After years of marriage and parenthood that's why I hate the Bible isn't a pro family book neither faith. Church or faith is like a sponge that absorbs the believer

@d_boneswish1296

3 жыл бұрын

My grandma is sending money to supposed grifter Christians in Israel. I don't know how much, but it's a little weird. I don't even care about money, I just don't want it going to scam artists.

@jefftaylor19

3 жыл бұрын

Did your grandpa think that Jesus was supposed to arrive in 1988, 40 years after the creation of Israel as a government? If he did, he was partially correct. See, facts were conflated very early on in the understanding of Jesus's prophesies. The coming of the "son of man" foretold in Luke 17: 22-36 was never referring to Jesus, but rather, to another of God's righteous servants. Edgar Weisanant predicted 1988, Hal Lidsey predicted 1988, among other. But Jesus did not arrive. However, in Tucson Arizona in 1988 a man announced that He was infact this messenger from God. His messengership is foretold in Malachi 3:1, Luke 17:33-36 and the Quran [3:81]. His message was incredible. WE were supposed to be worshipping God alone. Here are the links to great fount of information. www.goodreads.com/book/show/10772913-quran kzread.info/dash/bejne/gXWCpNyMoc7Vj5M.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/e32pqNuJnrTPc9o.html submission.org/introduction.html www.masjidtucson.org/quran/ReadQuran.php?appendix=1 kzread.info/dash/bejne/d4B9uKSMqqu9qLQ.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/oZOLyKdqf9bOec4.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/d2GXqdKmdbW_gqg.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/kYGb3NqCeq7Voso.html Peace.

@stevehauk

3 жыл бұрын

@@jefftaylor19 he never said his kingdom was of this world or here.

Wow ! Please have him back !!! This was amazing !!! It was so easy to understand and listen him !!! Thank you for having him !!!

@tonybasoni8443

3 жыл бұрын

zee,.....Yes, lies and deception go down like ice cream. The hardest thing to ever convince anyone of is the truth. It is like drinking apple cider vinegar straight down.

@user-nt4wc7ix7j

3 жыл бұрын

Tony the Jabroni, lying again! Let’s give him a hand folks! 👏

I was raised as a high church Anglican with a strong social gospel message. The term “interim ethics” was never used, but we were taught that like Jesus, we also are to commit ourselves to bringing in God’s kingdom, and that part of “taking up one’s cross” means being willing to sacrifice in that struggle no matter how lost the cause may look. Being a follower of Jesus was to be a kingdom- creator. Living the ethics of the gospel is the light of the world, the city we try and build on the hill. We may be crucified in the attempt, but that is what it means to be a follower of Christ. I never realised where the priests where getting these ideas from - now I do. Powerful message, and though I have been an atheist for decades, I still find the imagery powerful.

@jefftaylor19

3 жыл бұрын

Respectfully, the understanding of "God's kingdom" that you shared is what is taught, but it is not correct. God's kingdom is already here and available and has been available since Adam. One is in God's kingdom when they have the guidance and protection directed by God Almighty, alone. Psalms 91 expresses it quite clearly. 1 Whoever dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty.[a] 2 I will say of the Lord, “He is my refuge and my fortress, my God, in whom I trust.” You simply must choose God alone as your god, and you will dwell in His shelter. You will not even stub your toe. Now how do you choose God alone as your god? You obey His commands in the scripture. God never asked us to worship anyone except for HIM alone. All our being is supposed to be devoted to God, there is nothing left of us to devote to Jesus or anyone else. The reason that the understanding is all muddled for all the religions is because of a simple fact. All religions have injected distortions that amount to polluting the worship with idolatry. Simply put, the worship becomes toxic to the practicer. Instead of imploring God alone, Christians mention Jesus in their worship, Jews Quote Rabbis (from the invented book the Talmud) in their worship, Muslims mention Abraham and Muhammad next to God in their worship. This makes the worship worse than not good. It is poison. These worshippers have stepped out of God's kingdom all the while they think that they are bringing it to the world. A true believer has no problems whatsoever. No headache, no poverty, no traffic ticket, no illness. Nothing. Just like Job, when a believer passes the test, they have a great life with plenty. Psalms 91 says You will not fear the terror of night, nor the arrow that flies by day, 6 nor the pestilence that stalks in the darkness, nor the plague that destroys at midday. 7 A thousand may fall at your side, ten thousand at your right hand, but it will not come near you. 8 You will only observe with your eyes and see the punishment of the wicked. 9 If you say, “The Lord is my refuge,” and you make the Most High your dwelling, 10 no harm will overtake you, no disaster will come near your tent. 11 For he will command his angels concerning you to guard you in all your ways; 12 they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone. This is not allegorical. It is a fact. The more I practice this, I find it to be true. The Quran states the same system. Worship God alone to be in God's protection and guidance: God's Kingdom. Seek God's kingship over you and the rest follows. If you want to be a believer, you will want the following information. submission.org/introduction.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/gXWCpNyMoc7Vj5M.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/e32pqNuJnrTPc9o.html www.masjidtucson.org/quran/ReadQuran.php?appendix=1 kzread.info/dash/bejne/d4B9uKSMqqu9qLQ.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/oZOLyKdqf9bOec4.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/d2GXqdKmdbW_gqg.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/kYGb3NqCeq7Voso.html You must read this book. It is free online or you can get a copy www.goodreads.com/book/show/10772913-quran Peace.

@alanbird7781

3 жыл бұрын

@@jefftaylor19 God’s kingdom, like God, does not exist. If you think you will go through life with no problems then you are deluded - big time. But life itself will soon show you that concept is false. If you like the Psalms then use a concordance and look up suffering, hope, faithfulness - it is very clear that the faithful suffer. You seem to have missed the essential message the Psalms contain. Psalm 119:50 “My comfort in my suffering is this: Your promise preserves my life.” What makes the Psalms such a powerful piece of literature is the longing and hope in the face of adversity. Hope you find that helpful ! ✌️

@jefftaylor19

3 жыл бұрын

​@@alanbird7781 The scriptures are good news for believers. They are warnings for those who do not believe. Hell will be an awful and horrific place. This life is our last chance to take heed. Peace.

@alanbird7781

3 жыл бұрын

@@jefftaylor19 There is no god, no heaven, no hell. Relax 😎 Your threats of hellfire are meaningless. Next you will be telling me I will get no presents at Xmas, but instead Santa Claus will be leaving me bags of coal 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@jefftaylor19

3 жыл бұрын

@@alanbird7781 Psalms 91 offers you a perfect life in God's protection with no problems whatsoever, if you only submit to God alone as your Lord. This is real and available. Perhaps the ridiculous injections into the Bible have pushed you away from being open to guidance from God. This is exactly what Satan was trying to accomplish by inspiring the distortions. There are only two possible options for us and no third: God's kingdom or Satan's kingdom. An atheist is actually just another of Satan's trophies just as the Pope is, the Ayatollahs are, etc. God sent a messenger for our time in 1988. We now know with mathematical certainty that God exists. The Quran is not a Muslim book. Islam is a distortion that does not represent the Quran. The Quran is intact, which the mathematical code verifies. The Quran is like a Rosetta Stone for knowing what is truth in the Bible. This book is beyond the ability of humans to create. The work of Dr. Khalifa is an intense examination of the Quran, and we discover that it does not conflict with science and answers all of our questions about the purpose of life. This is the most important information in your life. You have never seen this kind of evidence before. Here are some links for those who chose to be open: submission.org/introduction.html www.masjidtucson.org/quran/ReadQuran.php?appendix=1 Peace.

My concern.. that silver thing on the bookcase behind the prof. Looks like it could crash off there at any moment! So worrying! (Irony intended.)

@tealx2014

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

The End of All Things is At Hand. Don’t worry. It’s not. That’s because *Jesus predicts the world will end within the lifetime of his audience.* Verily I say unto you, *That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power.* Mark 9:1 Verily I say unto you, *that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.* Mark 13:30 And ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. Mark 14:62 Verily I say unto you, *There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.* ***For the Son of Man will come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and then He will reward each according to his works.*** Matthew 16.27-28 Verily I say unto you, *All these things shall come upon this generation.* Matthew 23:36 Verily I say unto you, *This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.* Matthew 24:34 Nevertheless I say unto you, *Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.* Matthew 26:64 But I tell you of a truth, *there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death,* till they see the kingdom of God. Luke 9:27 Verily I say unto you, *This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.* Luke 21:32 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby *we know that it is the last time.* 1 John 2:18 *It didn’t end even though Jesus promised his audience that* “That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power.”Mark 9:1 *Since the End Times did not occur within the lifetimes of Jesus’ audiences, it is a false promise and it is therefore made moot and irrelevant.* If the most important words out of the mouth of Jesus are false then what basis is there for believing any of the words out of the mouth of Jesus? One is left with the reasonable conclusion that, if Jesus’ most important proclamation is false, the entire doctrine of Christianity is also false. But Wait… Christians will use the only single verse in the bible they can use in an attempt to negate all the above promises. But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. Mark 13:32 This verse comes one verse after Jesus said unto his followers “Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.” Mark 13:30 *Note the units of time Jesus uses; day and hour. Jesus does not use the units of weeks, months, years, centuries, millenniums. No. He uses the units of day and hour. Jesus is most definitely telling his audience that the end is coming in their lifetime.* To predict the actual date would be creditability suicide for Jesus because then when it didn’t happen on the predicted day, everyone would know that words from the mouth of Jesus were false. So Jesus was just practicing what we today call “covering your ass”. But Wait 2….. Isn’t Jesus God? The Trinity and all that? So here we have Jesus admitting that he is not God. Of course he would admit that because the whole cockamany concept of the Trinity didn’t evolve untill Please Note ***Jesus was preaching to his audience of Jews. It was THEIR lifetimes he was referring to. He never presented his message to any group other than the Jews.*** “Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: ***But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.*** Matthew 6:12-13. ***Jesus certainly didn’t intend his “end times” message for you, a Gentile in a time 2000 years removed from when he made his unfulfilled promises.*** *The end will come within the lifetime of Paul.* If not within the lifetime of Jesus Paul did not know about the false promises of Jesus because Mark, Matthew, Luke and John would not be written until at least twenty years later. So Paul took it upon himself to make the same false promises to his audiences. *Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air:* and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 1 Thessalonians 4:17 Can you honestly say that you would not have believed that you would soon be “caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord”, had you heard Paul say those words? Waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ … that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ. 1 Corinthians 1:7-8 But this I say, brethren, *the time is short:* it remaineth, *that both they that have wives be as though they had none.* 1 Corinthians 7:29 That ye may be sincere and without offence till the day of Christ. Philippians 1:10 I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 1 Thessalonians 5:23 Hath in these *last days* spoken unto us by his Son…. Hebrews 1:2 But now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself. Hebrews 9:26 Paul believed that Jesus’ resurrection *marked the beginning of the end.* For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and *will not tarry.* Hebrews 10:37 The Lord is *at hand.* Philippians 4:5 The end will come SOON. (How soon? Oh, within a couple thousand years or so.) Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these *last times* for you. 1 Peter 1:20 But the end of all things is *at hand:* be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer. 1 Peter 4:7 For the coming of the Lord *draweth nigh.* James 5:8 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must *shortly come to pass.* Revelation 1:1 The time is *at hand.* Revelation 1:3 Behold, I *come quickly.* Revelation 3:11, 22:7, 22:12 Surely I *come quickly.* Revelation 22:20 Really? If you had heard Jesus and/or his disciples speak those words, wouldn’t you have thought “the day of the Lord” would come within your lifetime? Can you seriously argue that you would have realized they really meant sometime more than 2000 years from the time you heard the words? Any one, hearing any of those statements above would have had to believe that the end was coming in their lifetime. It didn’t. *The Bible is wrong once again.* thechurchoftruth.org/the-end-of-all-things-is-at-hand/

@Pushing_Pixels

Жыл бұрын

Nice one. But Paul probably did know about Jesus' promises. He would've heard about it from the disciples he met, Peter and James.

@PaulaHJ74

Ай бұрын

If we rightly divide the word then maybe we get the correct answers...like Paul saying one thing and Jesus and the 12 saying something else...it makes sense if you know that Israel messed up again and the Gentiles would be saved by the cross and resurrection..and that Israel prophecy is now on hold. Do you think this would make sense if rightly divided?

@Moodboard39

21 күн бұрын

​@@PaulaHJ74doesn't exclude they were waiting for his return . With so much urgency , why so much desperation and urgency ? And why forbid a wife anyway . Would it matter if he came or not ??

@Moodboard39

21 күн бұрын

​@@PaulaHJ74A pastor said , after church been rapture than Israel would resume . How ?! Assuming the flock . Okay, what about jesus prediction ? If Israel going to resume than ,the apostle going to witness his second coming ? What about the Romans ?!who pierced him ? According to revelation 1? Or the high priest ?! It's not talking about resurrection but the second coming

I've often wondered about Jesus's second coming. The excuse I heard growing is God's timing is not our timing. Thanks again for another great video.

@buckwomack997

3 жыл бұрын

These verses in the Bible would support the position that “God’s timing is not our timing.” 2 Peter 3:8 But of this one thing be not ignorant, my beloved, that one day with the Lord is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. Matthew 24:36 But of that day and hour no one knoweth, not the angels of heaven, but the Father alone. Psalm 90:4 For a thousand years in thy sight are as yesterday, which is past. I hope this was helpful! God Bless!

@jefftaylor19

3 жыл бұрын

Jesus never said that he would come back before the Day of Judgement. He said the 'son of man' would come. Also, He said a "comforter' or 'the Spirit of truth' comes. It is those early Christian fathers who assumed and preached the meaning of those expressions. They were not prophets or messengers. They were simply guys with opinions. It appears to me that we have found out since, that the Quran is the Comforter which was released to Muhammad by the Spirit of truth, Gabriel. It will be with us always. Furthermore, the 'son of man' of Luke 17:22-36 and Matthew 24:27 we have found to be Rashad Khalifa Phd. His arrival was also prophesied in Malachi 3:1. Dr. Khalifa was the "Messenger of the Covenant" that was foretold in both the Bible and the Quran [3:81]. Several Christian writers had predicted that the 'son of man' would come in 1988. They thought it would be Jesus. Well, Jesus didn't come. However, in 1988, Tucson Arizona, Dr. Rashad Khalifa announced that he was in fact this person. They only "thought' it was supposed to be Jesus. Dr. Rashad Khalifa taught that any righteous person who submits to God alone can make it to heaven, whether they practice the Torah, the Gospel or the Quran. He was guided by God to research the Quran by computer to discover the incredible mathematical composition of the Quran. We no longer need faith. We now have mathematical proof that God is real and the the Quran is His intact message to us. Here are some links. www.masjidtucson.org/quran/ReadQuran.php?appendix=1 kzread.info/dash/bejne/gXWCpNyMoc7Vj5M.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/e32pqNuJnrTPc9o.html submission.org/introduction.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/d4B9uKSMqqu9qLQ.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/oZOLyKdqf9bOec4.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/d2GXqdKmdbW_gqg.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/kYGb3NqCeq7Voso.html Peace.

@nicolistruszkowski3355

3 жыл бұрын

@@jefftaylor19 I get what you're saying, but in Christianity Jesus us the son of man. I'll check out the links, as to my knowledge no religious text or god is mathematically possible. Let alone a logical definition of god.

@buckwomack997

3 жыл бұрын

@@jefftaylor19 how can Gabriel be the spirit of truth when the Quran says Angels and spirits are different? 78:38 says they are separated into rows. If the spirit is Gabriel an angel there would be no reason to separate them. On the Day when the Spirit and the angels stand in rows, they will not speak except for those to whom the Lord of Mercy gives permission, who will say only what is right.

@jefftaylor19

3 жыл бұрын

The Spirit is the title of one angel, specifically, Gabriel. [78:38]The day will come when the Spirit and the angels will stand in a row. None will speak except those permitted by the Most Gracious, and they will utter only what is right. Angel is a category of heavenly beings. It refers to all of God's servants who chose God alone as the only possible god. There are ranks in the heavenly society. The angel Gabriel has a specific role of bringing messages. He is referred to as the Spirit, the Honest Spirit. Jinns are fallen angels, who were cast out of heaven and reside in this lowly universe. They are Satan's decedents, constituents and servants. [2:98] Anyone who opposes God, and His angels, and His messengers, and Gabriel and Michael, should know that God opposes the disbelievers. [19:17]While a barrier separated her from them, we sent to her our Spirit. He went to her in the form of a human being. [26:192-193] This is a revelation from the Lord of the universe. The Honest Spirit (Gabriel) came down with it. [66:4] If the two of you repent to God, then your hearts have listened. But if you band together against him, then God is his ally, and so is Gabriel and the righteous believers. Also, the angels are his helpers. [97:4-5]The Night of Destiny is better than a thousand months. The angels and the Spirit descend therein, by their Lord's leave, to carry out every command. Gabriel is known as the Spirit. He brings new information from God to us. He is the mechanism by which God communicates with all the messengers and prophets. Peace.

One of my friends keeps telling me "it's the End Times & Jesus is coming any day now" for 2000 years people have been saying this same thing. It's just ridiculous.

@johnmichaelson9173

2 жыл бұрын

@Ivana Ivana Jesus isn't coming back & it's just that simple.

@johnmichaelson9173

2 жыл бұрын

@Ivana Ivana Oh that's convenient. So we have a invisible God & a second coming that no one alive today will never see. Honestly you're just talking nonsense.

@johnmichaelson9173

2 жыл бұрын

@Ivana Ivana I don't believe a word you say. 😁

@Moodboard39

21 күн бұрын

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Masterpiece information!!! 👊🏿 Even if Jesus come and leave them behind they would still say he's coming back soon..

@philleprechaun6240

2 жыл бұрын

If Jesus was to return today, they'd be first in line to crucify him and call him a false prophet and a socialist.

Paul’s doctrine on resurrection was given in Romans 8 and 1 Corinthians 15. “But if Christ is in you, your body is dead because of sins, yet your spirit is alive because of righteousness. And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit who lives in you.”, Romans 8:10-12. Paul was clearly speaking of resurrection as being raised up as spirits to be alive with God in the spiritual realm. “If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. So it is written: ‘The first man Adam became a living being’, the last Adam, a life-giving spirit. The spiritual did not come first, but the natural, and after that the spiritual. The first man was of the dust of the earth, the second man from heaven. As was the earthly man, so are those who are of the earth; and as is the man from heaven, so are those who are of heaven. And just as we have borne the likeness of the earthly man, so shall we bear the likeness of the man from heaven. I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.”, 1 Corinthians 15:44-50. Clearly, according to Paul, Jesus the last Adam became a life-giving spirit from heaven after his death, resurrection and ascension to heaven and all the believers ( dead or living in physical realm) following him would be resurrected as spirits in the Kingdom of God like Jesus himself. Resurrection was the transformation from the perishable state of living according to the flesh to the imperishable state of living according to the Spirit; it was the imputation of righteousness by faith through the Spirit dwelling in the people of God. It had nothing to do with our biological bodies or physical death. With this background of resurrection according to Paul’s doctrine, you can see the obvious errors and inconsistencies of arguments in this video. “The creation” in Romans 8:19-23 could not possibly refer to the planet earth and the animals, plants therein or the human beings being physically transformed when they were redeemed from their “bondage to decay” due to transgressions. “The creation” referred to old covenant Israel under the Mosaic levitical laws in eager expectation of the freedom under the new covenant of Jesus. Consider the passage “Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will be changed - in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.” in 1 Corinthians 15:51-52. It could not possibly refer to the dead people in their graves popping out with new fleshly bodies or the spontaneous transformation of the physical nature of the bodies of the people who were still alive. How could Paul’s audience be expecting the natural instead of the spiritual when Paul had already explained to them about the nature of resurrection earlier in the passage? Consider the passage “For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.” In 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17. This referred to the gathering of the elect (the saints) on the Day of the Lord when the resurrection of the dead and the living who were God’s people for the inheritance of the Kingdom of God occurred. Surely according to Paul’s doctrine of resurrection Jesus was not coming as a physical 5’5” man riding on a cumulus cloud and descending from heaven to meet the saints whose resurrected bodies were flying up in the air to meet Jesus in the sky. To confirm this, consider the passage “Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers, not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by some prophecy, report or letter supposed to have come from us, saying that the Day of the Lord has already come.” in 2 Thessalonians 2:1-2. Surely if imagery of the Day of the Lord was as spectacular as described literally in the passage with Jesus and the resurrected saints appearing physically on earth, Paul would have rebutted the claim simply by asking if any one had seen Jesus or any dead saint coming to life on earth. Again consider the passage “Their teaching will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus, who have wondered away from truth. They say that the resurrection has already taken place, and they destroy the faith of some.” In 2 Timothy 2:17-18. Surely if the raising of the dead saint was a physical and bodily resurrection, Paul would have rebutted the claim in the passage simply by asking if anyone had known a dead saint who had been physically raised to life. The apocalypse prophesied in the Bible - the Day of the Lord, the Parousia of Jesus, the Resurrection , the Restoration of old covenant Israel and the Coming of the Kingdom of God had not failed. The spiritual realm is a reality in which the new heaven and new earth had come into existence as Mount Zion, the heavenly Jerusalem since the first century, Hebrews 12:22-28. It is not a “spiritualisation” of something we cannot explain with our mind set in the physical space-time realm; it is an invisible reality - a realm for the spirits.

@cathyallen3967

5 ай бұрын

In the belief system of the times under Greek and Babylonian and late Egyption thinking when you died you went to the underworld. The good and heroes and kings got to live in a nice section that sounds like a duplicate of earth, the wicked went to a dark place and flitted around as ghosts, the wicked were punished in sheol or hades for their sins. Or you got recycled back here for another go at it. The ransom sacrifice and resurrection of Jesus, the last adam, was supposed to free the soul from hell and let us finally rise back up to heaven.

@PaulaHJ74

Ай бұрын

Yes..if you rightly divide the word it makes sense....take Paul's epistles out and you got Israel prophecy...put Paul's epistles in, you got the hidden secret stuff which wasn't for the flock

@Moodboard39

21 күн бұрын

Hmm, interesting

@Moodboard39

21 күн бұрын

Are u dispensationist? I' assume....if true , that be the end of the church age ... Don't u think ??? He expected and also the Christian in that time expected , so did James , John , Hebrews of his return

@Moodboard39

21 күн бұрын

​@@PaulaHJ74Are u dispensationist? I' assume....if true , that be the end of the church age ... Don't u think ??? He expected and also the Christian in that time expected , so did James , John

For each of us, it will end when we die, is so depressing

Oh man! This is next level:...you can't run the world like that, no but you can destroy a world like that!

Always glad to hear from “James the Just”!

In his book 'The Faith of Jesus' Leroy Waterman and many other scholars have convincingly proved that Jesus was not Apocalyptic. The doctrine of Apocalypse was borrowed by the Jews from the Persians, during the Babylonian exile when the jews adopted foreign doctrines. Jesus' central message was The Kingdom but his apostles turned away from it and taught the Apocalypse. It's time for those who would like to reform Christianity to recover the message of the Kingdom.

@DoloresLehmann

Жыл бұрын

Amen!!! to that!

Habakkuk is a book referred to a good deal by JWs. That quote is even in their “kingdom melodies.” For them “it’s just around the corner”-always. Be afraid. Very afraid. Like Jesus said it will come like a thief in the night when you least expect it.. Fucking Doomsday cult.

@m.a.sperry3424

3 жыл бұрын

You just described all religion. They all spread dangerous rhetoric that causes people to live their lives in fear and the false hope that there is something after they die. This prevents them from making the most out of this life, the only life one gets. What do you remember before you were born.....well, that's what you know after you die.... nothing. I know, I can hear the believers saying how sad that is , having nothing to look forward to, no security blanket. For me, not having to worry about the afterlife, leaves me free to appreciate everything I've been given in this life. The only thing I need to live my life, and live it well, is the Golden Rule-do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

@saffronhammer7714

3 жыл бұрын

@@m.a.sperry3424 Nope. Not all religions are traumatizing and abusive, just as all organizations. marriages, and relationships are abusive. It is understandable if you haven't been exposed to the difference, and I am thankful many have not suffered such abuse. But there are resources out there for you to educate yourself on the vast differences and what that means in real terms for people.

@m.a.sperry3424

3 жыл бұрын

@@saffronhammer7714 At first I thought you were defending JW, but your last sentence (OP)seemed to cancel that idea. So which religion do you defend? I'm not sure you read my post, but just decided too preach. I really I have all the info I need to make an informed decision about how to live my life and interact with the world around me. The Golden Rule is sufficient.

Either he's thinking of Dance Me to the End of Love or The Future for the Leonard Cohen song

Re: 6:16 "Habakkuk may be first century" Agreed. Completely plausible. I just paused the video to read Habakkuk and it sounds EXACTLY like 4 Ezra (dated ~90- 100 C.E.)

When people cannot distinguish their god from their imagination, there is never a good reason to take them seriously on any of these subjects.

@tonybasoni8443

3 жыл бұрын

JB,.....The fact is, science as it pertains to the cosmology of the earth/world, is religion, it is nothing but the science fiction fantasy nonsense that comes from the imagination of God hating men. The Bible is the only truth there is.

@user-nt4wc7ix7j

3 жыл бұрын

@@tonybasoni8443 Your perverted views show strongly here, for a man cannot hate that in which he does not believe to exist. You speak of imagination, yet you cannot differentiate it from reality. You claim the Bible is truth, but there is no truth in you. Your statements make you look worse than if you had said nothing at all. You are truly an empty vessel.

@tealx2014

3 жыл бұрын

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@alainabilow

2 жыл бұрын

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@user-nt4wc7ix7j

2 жыл бұрын

@@alainabilow Let me clarify for you. Since Christians cannot distinguish their god from their imagination, any arguments that rely on this god existing are essentially worthless.

Great video. Kudos.

There are two kinds of full filled prophecy in the bible? One that was written after the event or one so bloody vague it can be interpreted to mean anything.

Prof Tabor you have brought so much enlightenment to mankind. The question is: are christians willing to understand that the 'end time' teaching of Apostle Paul are completely false and misleading? Are christians willing to accept the fact that Apostle Paul was either delusional or a scam artist? Apostle Paul's teachings/doctrine brought so much calamity to this world. I am no longer a christian because it is clear to me that heaven is scam and Jesus can NEVER come back to the earth. We are immensely grateful Sir

For a different view of Revelation, read Scott Hahn's book "The Lamb's Supper : the Mass as Heaven on Earth" - he shows how the themes of Revelation became incorporated into Christian liturgy where they are timeless. Margaret Barker's book "The Gate of Heaven" and her other works show how apocalyptic literature was all connected with the idea of the original Temple in Jerusalem, and how it's themes are used in modern Christian hymns.

I think my mum’s prophecies seem more accurate. My mum said: “I have a feeling it’s going to be a girl.” ......Two months later, she said: “it’s going to be a boy.” ....The morning we announced the birth of our daughter, she said: “I told you it was going to be a girl!”

Something that might be useful to professor Tabor if he doesn't already know it. There is a Jewish prayer that curses the nazarenes(Jesus followers), written or ammended after the 70CE rebellion against the Romans. It is blessing 12 of the 18 blessings standing prayer (the additional curse makes the prayer have a total of 19 blessings now). It proves Jesus existed and that his movement must have been sizeable. It also shows that they were rejected by all mainstream Jews fairly early on.

@Pushing_Pixels

Жыл бұрын

Interesting!

Well said!

I love the Catholic church but I'm also a student of Gnosticism. I realize that only Gnosticism and the ancient mystery schools help Jesus truly make since. The Kingdom is within.

True. There is no end time. What lots of people (even pastors) don't (yet) understand. God created us according to His own image and likeness. Godly. Mankind/the first Adam fell. The image of God in man got lost. That's why there is all this predicament on earth (selfishness, greed, lust, wars, sicknesses, death, etc). We are all born into that mess. For the fall of man a perfect atoning sacrifice had to be made.... that is what God did in Christ. With His own once and for all perefect sacrifice, He paid the debt for the fall of man for us, so we can be indwelled by His Spirit again and finally receive the divine life of the ages back, the first Adam let got of in the fall of man. An amazing act of grace and love by our creator. That is what you see happening in Christ's first disciples. They too healed all and walked in unselfish love. And yes.... that is still avaible today. The holy blood is in place, the Holy Spirit is here to give us understanding, power and transform us back to origin. Not to be debated about, but to be embraced and be-come. So: The Kingdom of God already came. Through Christ, in Spiritform, in those that understand. Hence the divine healing miracles we experience. God manifested in Christ to give us back the divine life mankind lost in the fall of Adam. Christ, the exact image of the invisible God. The image we were created after in Gen 1. The image we lost in the fall of man. The image that can be freely restored by Christ's blood and Holy Spirit working IN us. What a plan. What a solution. What a love. What a God. Jesus is amazing. It is the ultimate conclusion of the word and plan of God. God came full circle. He Himself stooped down from glory to restore us back to original created value: Christlikeness. Walking in divine healing power and unselfish love. Jesus, born of the Spirit of God, filled with the spirit of God. The "Son" of God, the incarnated word, God in the flesh. For three years He healed all, raised the dead, casted out demons, controlled nature, spoke pure divine truth. He said: "Follow Me. If you see Me, you see the Father. The Father and I are one. The glory I have IN My Father, I give to you. It pleases the Father to give you His Kingdom/Holy Spirit/divine nature. I will send Holy Spirit, the same as Me, He will be IN you, guide you into truth and give you explosive power. The same miracles i do, you will do too, because you will understand that the Father is IN Me and I am IN you. Freely I give you My Kingdom/Holy Spirit/divine nature, heal the sick, raise the dead, cast out demons, freely I give, freely share" Etc, etc, etc. I have experienced thousands of beautifull healing miracles through the power of Holy Spirit IN me already. Broken bones, cancers, covid, all kinds of infirmities healed in seconds. Demons manifesting and casted out by a simple "get out, in Jesus name". Jesus. De name above all names. In Him all power and wisdom is sourced and.... He calls us one with Him. God in man and man in God again. C'mon Jesus!! So.... again: God stooped down IN Christ to restore us back to Gen 1:27 were He said: "Let us make man according to our image and likeness and let them have authority.....": walk as Christ. Christ, the exact image of the invisible God. The image we were created after and being restored to by His atoning blood for the fall of man and indwelling Holy Spirit. You are free to receive this original divine life of the ages by Holy Spirit of Christ/God. Ask Him to guide you into truth. Read the Gospel of John and fall in love with your creator. You are not made for the fall of man and its effects, but for the image/glory of God and to walk like Christ. Holy Spirit is the guide and transforming power that will get you there. Amazing grace. A big leap in faith can be made when we start realizing we are already IN Christ, IN the last Adam. Free from the fall! Loved! Growing into awareness of our new (yet old) godly identity. Changing by Holy Spirit. The most fullfilled life ever. Paul healed all on Malta. He understood and wrote: "As in the first Adam ALL died (lost the divine nature), so also ALL were made alive IN Christ to walk in Zoë (= divine life) again". "IN Christ (the last Adam) we are co-cruisified (dead to the fall and its effects), co-raised (justified/made righteousness, holy, blameless, above reproach), co-seated (one with Him)" "The fullness of deity dwells in Christ and YOU HAVE BEEN MADE COMPLETE IN HIM, who is the head of every principality and power". So.... thank you Jesus! Thank you for redeeming me from the fall of man. Thank you for your Holy Spirit that makes this new (yet old) divine life come alive in me. You are amazing! In the shadow of Peter the sick healed... He understood too and wrote: "By Gods power (Holy Spirit) and knowing Christ, we have become partakers of the divine nature and have escaped the fall of man". The divine life of the ages has been returned to us by Jesus once and for all perfect atoning sacrifice for the debt of the fall of man and His indwelling Holy Spirit in us. Jesus/God is amazing!!! Ask Him to give you revelation and change you to the way it was before the fall of man: Christlikeness. He will do so. For it is written: "the Spirit brings forth after His own kind". "I have come to give you Zoë (divine life) in abundance...."

@Pushing_Pixels

Жыл бұрын

God didn't need to sacrifice anyone, he could just forgive man and wipe away original sin. If Jesus' sacrifice returns us to the state of grace of Adam, why are all the predicaments still happening? There are plenty of Christians, yet they themselves are a part of those predicaments. Nothing has changed as a result of Jesus' death. There are no divine healing miracles going on, if you have proof of them please share.

I’d love to see Prof Tabor talk on the Hebrew Matthew. I see little online from him about it

Apocalypticism remembers me a novel i loved, "the Desert of the Tartars", published in 1939 Italy by Dino Buzzati: a young graded soldier is sent to Bastiani fortress, watching over a desertic border beyond wich nobody knows what really lies. The boredom is great for people serving there for decades and everybody is waiting for an attack, interpreting any minimal signal, inside or outside the fortress and their minds. The Tartars are near, who knows when they are going to attack?

22:13: "You can't stretch Daniel out for millennia." - A Jehovah's Witness: "Hold my beer."

@Pushing_Pixels

Жыл бұрын

@عدالت_حقیقت_وحدت Away with your cut and paste comments!

@przemeksledziewski1973

4 ай бұрын

Tl dr

Top Notch ~ of the top of the line!

@tonybasoni8443

3 жыл бұрын

Genesis3, ....Wrong! this was total nonsense. This guy knows nothing about God or the Bible, he is 100% spiritually dead and blind.

@user-nt4wc7ix7j

3 жыл бұрын

Tony the Jabroni, lying again! Let’s give him a hand folks! 👏

......... And in the last days many shall fall from the Faith and go after what they're itching ears want to hear.

As an observation, in my own unpublished Translation and Commentary upon the Epistle to the Galatians, I posit the notion that Paul the Apostle actually adhered to the same doctrine as set forth in the Book of Habakkuk, that the just shall tarry in their faith although fulfilled prophecy seems delayed, rather than an alleged Christian doctrine of justification by faith versus works. I am personally convinced that this is the precise meaning of the Petrine doctrine set forth in the pseudepigraphical Second Epistle of Peter the Apostle (i.e. 2 Peter 3:15-16), where the reference to the Pauline Epistles being misunderstood is specifically stated as being in regard to a doctrine of patience in tarrying upon unfulfilled prophecy (e.g. 2 Peter 3:1-14). This doctrine of tarrying is admittedly more obvious in the authentic Pauline Epistle to the Romans (i.e. Romans 1:16-17), where the context is in regard to the tarrying of salvation amidst current wrath (e.g. Romans 1:18-32), as well as Paul’s own tarrying in visiting the Church of the Romans (e.g. Romans 1:13-15). This doctrine of tarrying “, however, is admittedly much more obscure in regard to the authentic Pauline Epistle to the Galatians (i.e. Galatians 3:11), where Paul the Apostle is indeed contrasting works versus faith, in a manner similar to the Dead Sea Scrolls text of 4QMMT: Sectarian Manifesto, but centuries of Christian misinterpretation and mistranslation has caused multitudes to “twist the meaning to their own destruction” in my opinion. See Michael Wise, Martin Abegg, Jr., and Edward Cook: The Dead Sea Scrolls: A New Translation (2005), pp. 454-462. It seems to me that the contrast being defined by Paul the Apostle in the Epistle to the Galatians is not one of eternal justification being derived from faith versus works, but is rather in regard to the same doctrine set forth in the Book of Habakkuk, where foolish pride is contrasted with patience faith in the promises of God (e.g. Habakkuk 2:3-8), a doctrine of temporal justification by patient faith versus arrogant works, whereby an individual is bestowed with spiritual enlightenment (e.g. Galatians 3:1-3), meaning a Spirit of Holiness (i.e. Enlightenment or Gnosis) and not being an absurd reference to an allegedly divine Personage of a Trinity referred to as the Holy Spirit, and whereby a patience is fostered in regard to the tarrying of Bible prophecies regarding temporal salvation of the Gentiles along with temporal salvation of the Jews via promises given to Abraham the Patriarch (e.g. Galatians 3:6). By the way, the Midrash and the Talmud suggest that this faith of Abraham was actually in regard to his having constructed for himself a new astrological horoscope, where he was mystically born again on a new and auspicious day rather than the inauspicious astrological horoscope of his actual birthdate, Moses the Prophet even having claimed that Astrology is the Wisdom of Israel that is in the visible sight of all of the Nations (e.g. Deuteronomy 4:6). See the Great Midrash: Genesis Rabbah 44:12 and the Babylonian Talmud: Shabbath 75a. In the Epistle to the Galatians, Paul the Apostle clearly states that those circumcised as Jews are debtors (present tense), whether they are Jews that believe in Jesus as the Messiah or not, whereas uncircumcised Gentiles are not debtors to keep the 613 commandments of the Torah (i.e. Teaching or Law of Moses), but rather only the 7 Noachide commandments (e.g. Acts 15:13-22). Therefore, the Pauline doctrine is not the absurd Christian doctrine of works versus faith, since he clearly taught that circumcised Jews must the Torah, but again his emphasis is upon the patient faith of the tarrying promise that someday soon the Renewed Covenant (e.g. Jeremiah 31:31) will supersede the current Mosaic Covenant. Note: The so-called New Testament never claims that the Renewed or New Covenant is in effect today, but rather it only claims that believers are currently deacons or ministers of the Renewed Covenant (e.g. 2 Corinthians 3:6) taught upon better promises today than beforehand (e.g. Hebrews 8:6). Note the Greek word νομοθετεω means “taught” not “established”; compare Hebrews 8:6 with 7:11, where the same Greek word is used in regard to the Levites teaching the Torah to Israel. See the controversial New Covenant lecture given by Dr. John Master and Brian Toews of Philadelphia Biblical University for the Theological Society. Gentiles in the time of Paul did not have to become full converts and undergo circumcision to Judaism in order to receive such temporal justification, but they could simply become partial converts, Noachides or Righteous Gentiles. See Acts 10:1-2 and the Babylonian Talmud: Sanhedrin 56a-56b, 59a-59b, and 105a, and Chullin 92a-92b. Christianity today likes to stress the alleged Judaizers, but the fact is that the Greek term Judaize (Ιουδαιζειν) only appears once in the entire Bible (e.g. Galatians 2:14), and therefore it is illogical to presume that the popular Christian notion regarding the alleged Judaizers is in fact credible! I am a full convert not a partial convert to Judaism, and I strive to fulfill the 613 commandments of the Torah as a debtor (admittedly, rather pathetically), but I believe that Jesus was one of the many incarnations (i.e. גילגולים Gilgulim) of the Jewish Messiah, and yet I trust that my temporal justification (but not any absurd Christian superstitious and supernatural doctrine of alleged eternal salvation) is by patient faith in the promises of the God not prideful works. Note: I affirm that the Bible is a complied text of Hebrew history and mythology, but that it is not the inerrant Scriptures of God, and that any inspiration derived thereof is of a mystical not literal manner, and is equally comparable to other texts such as the Tao Teh Ching, et cetera, or even modern myths such as Star Wars, etc. Furthermore, I am a professed Agnostic who affirms that the God of the Bible is a mystical invention of mankind, being a Kabbalist who affirms the Ain Sof Aur or apophatic Agnostic God (e.g. Acts 17:22-23). See the Great Midrash: Genesis Rabbah 27:1: גדול כחן של נביאים שמדמין צורה ליוצרה. “Great was the reputation of the Prophets, who fashioned the Formator (i.e. God) according to their own form (i.e. they created God in their own Image).”

It would be great to hear of his time with HW Armstrong's Ambassador College.

William Miller. 1844. The Great Disappointment. (Not 1884.) The Adventist Movement arose from this from which many years later the Seventh Day Adventist Church emerged which to this day ascribes significance to 1844 as the beginning of "The Investigative Judgement" which mainstream Christianity, though recognizing the Seventh Day Adventists as Christians, wholeheartedly rejects as orthodox doctrine.

I've been sensing that the "Christian" Right was going to be getting more authoritarian, and hoping that my lifeling interest in historical Christianity might serve as a way to talk with them. Fat chance. They're going to believe wtf they want. 🤣

@Pushing_Pixels

Жыл бұрын

Hit them with the truth anyway. Lots of people raised Evangelical and Fundamentalist end up de-converting. Many have questions that their pastors can't answer. They see the contradictions, they just need to overcome the programming, which is hard for them. Help them.

The Jewish age ended in 70 AD as spoken of by Daniel, Jesus and Revelation. The olivet discourse us not for a future but an event 2000 years ago.

Excellent topic

I think if you divide the prophesy dates by 2 and then multiple that figure by Pi, you will have a number. Then the whole ghost will tell you what that number isn't, therefore what remains is the "Answer". You just have to believe or you will get it wrong.

there was a Native American prophet called Wovoka. A few years earlier there had been another such prophet. they both believed some version of the same thing--they had had visions. Wovoka was taken up into heaven. he was told if all the native peoples would do this certain dance as a community within certain guidelines God would intervene, take away the white people, the dead Indians would return, the buffalo would return. Wovoka was a person of moral excellence, he could heal people, he could control the weather (they believed). i read this is a recurring thing in human history, when a society is stressed to the breaking point shamanic personalities emerge and say that if everyone will do a certain symbolic act God or the supernatural realm will be inspired to have mercy and intervene. the existing order will be turned upside down. jesus and the baptist were just ancient shamanic personalities as was paul. their society was stressed to the limit. the shamans emerged (jesus and john the baptist) and said if all the Jews would get baptized in the Jordan river God would intervene, kick out the Romans, and the social order would be turned upside down, "the last will be first and the first will be last". jesus said, "this generation won't pass away before all this has happened." he really was a great person. but the amazing thing is that people are still holding to this unbelievably archaic stuff. it's amazing. and the people devoting their lives to who said what and what they really meant...none of it is any more important than Wovoka and the other Native American prophet. jesus, the baptist, paul, had visions, they believed them, none of it happened, they were empty dreams. but the people indoctrinated with this stuff as little children, whose parents and grandparents believed in it, those people can't let go of this. It's really sad that this is the best religion we can come up with in the West. It's sad.

" Verily, verily, I SAY unto thee, THE SKT IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING!"

@eyeinthesky7336

3 жыл бұрын

I guess he never read 2nd Thess. Everything he asserts is conjecture. Lastly the historical preterist view is the least accepted view of this subject. Many things about the prophesied return of Christ did not not happen in the timeline that is being referenced, thus the "interpretation" is flawed, not the bible.

@joehinojosa24

3 жыл бұрын

@@eyeinthesky7336 You could be right. There is alot of " elasticity" on the subject of eschatology. But the Herald, " Repent for the kingdom of God is at hand"! probably was not an injunctive motivation for the following 2000yrs.

@eyeinthesky7336

3 жыл бұрын

@@joehinojosa24 the "Kingdom of God" wasn't a future thing it was a proclamtion that the spirit of God can dwell within you and you become part of the kingdom, a spiritual kingdom. This is separate from new world at the end of Revelation.

@joehinojosa24

3 жыл бұрын

@@eyeinthesky7336 I love your explanation. However the first century followers of John the Baptist and Yeshua may not have WALKED away from their sermons with this in mind. They seemed to hope for a political change, liberating Palestine was immanent.

@eyeinthesky7336

3 жыл бұрын

@@joehinojosa24 sure but that was not the intent of the message

Thanks

_Albert Schweizer got it... Jesus threw himself on the wheel of history, and it ... crushed him_ ... 24:00

Prophecy works real well if you record it after the events and claim you did before the events.

@twitherspoon8954

Жыл бұрын

Like all of the Gospels did.

"...הִנֵּה עֻפְּלָה, לֹא-יָשְׁרָה נַפְשׁוֹ בּוֹ; וְצַדִּיק, בֶּאֱמוּנָתוֹ יִחְיֶה." (Habakkuk Chapter 2:4), The Hebrew concept "righteous in his faith shall live" is a broad concept and recipe mainly about the fact that the person is actually stubborn Any person who is proven and is stubborn, will offer the above sentence! This is because he "holds" himself "righteous" Therefore, when I look at certain things, my view will usually be different from the way others look at the same things. Hence, the above sentence refers to the scattering of ideas rather than literally to the "righteous" with "faith"

"However, no one knows the day or hour when these things will happen, not even the angels in heaven or the Son himself. Only the Father knows." (Mark 13:32)

This was powerful.

I have so many tough questions about the bible like this that nobody can ever answer for me. Sometimes I think I am the only one who notices these contradictions in the bible. Most Christians are either ignorant of them, or in denial. I guess we can do nothing but just have faith that he will come when the time is right.

@Moodboard39

21 күн бұрын

To many church teach differently . They not dispensation. They not into Paul much but following the red letters ( majority of Christianity ) follow . That's why there confusion , and people who left , become atheist

@Moodboard39

21 күн бұрын

No answer about the second coming ..they don't analyze deeply

The key is, what made many followers think it really was going to happen???

“There is silence all around. The Baptist appears, and cries: “Repent, for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand.” Soon after that comes Jesus, and in the knowledge that He is the coming Son of Man lays hold of the wheel of the world to set it moving on that last revolution which to bring all ordinary history to a close. It refuses to turn, and He throws Himself upon it. Then it does turn; and crushes Him. Instead of bringing in the eschatological conditions, He has destroyed them. The wheel rolls onward, and the mangled body of the one immeasurably great Man, who was strong enough to think of Himself as the spiritual ruler of mankind and to bend history to His purpose, is hanging upon it still. That is His victory and His reign.” [Albert Schweitzer, The Quest of the Historical Jesus, pg.370-371.]

"For all of us, it will end when we die". True that. But that is not the end, but the beginning of something in you that you have internally created through this life on earth that will be revealed upon the transition period known as death. For some, it has happened before and we try to help others understand beyond what the sense organs reveal as totality. That is the eternal life of Christ Jesus.

So I’m taking that Titus was the prince to come. Woe Daniel actually got something right. Titus was the son of Vespasian and was the military leader when the Temple was destroyed.

@gerardjayetileke4373

3 жыл бұрын

No the point was that if at all, Titus was re-casted by the Christians as the prince to come. But even this only seems so in retrospect.

"And the Good News about the Kingdom will be preached throughout the whole world, so that all nations will hear it; and THEN THE END WILL COME" (Matthew 24:14)

@Pushing_Pixels

Жыл бұрын

All nations heard it centuries ago, they just didn't all believe it. Prophecy = failed.

@7Truth7Wins7

Жыл бұрын

​@@Pushing_Pixels Are you are saying that YOU are the one in control of which "prophecies" are True and which prophecies are False ? And YOU decide the timeline of WHEN those prophecies come to pass ? Jesus said, "No man "knows" the day or the hour.." (Matthew 24:36) and Jesus also said, "It is not for YOU to "know" the times or the seasons which the Father has put in his own power". (Acts 1:7) So anything "short" of God telling you "personally" that the Prophets He Himself chose, called and spoke through are "Liars", is just corrupt deluded thinking on your part.

@Pushing_Pixels

Жыл бұрын

@@7Truth7Wins7 Where did I say I was in control of prophesy? Jesus also said the second coming and the kingdom of God would happen in the lifetimes of his disciples. So did Paul. It didn't. It still hasn't. Every generation of Christians for two thousand years has seen all the signs around them and believed they were the last generation, that they would see the end. Every single time they were wrong. Why would I believe anyone saying the same thing today?

@7Truth7Wins7

Жыл бұрын

@@Pushing_Pixels #1. You said, "Where did I say I was in control of prophesy? " Because you said the Prophecy "failed", which either means you have "divine" knowledge from God about it or you are just "guessing" ignorantly. #2. You said, "Jesus also said the second coming and the kingdom of God would happen in the lifetimes of his disciples. So did Paul." I don't know what "Bible" you are reading but Jesus and Paul did NOT say that. This is what Jesus said.... "Then he said to his disciples, “The time is coming when you will long to see the day when the Son of Man returns, but you won’t see it." (Luke 17:22) NLT How could Jesus tell his disciples that they would see His "literal" return when He told Peter that he would die in John 21:18, and we know that James died by the sword in Acts 12:2, and Jesus Himself told John that he would also die in Mark 10:35-39 ?? Also, please post the scripture where Paul said that Jesus would return in his lifetime. You need to stop listening to "men" tell you what the Bible says and read it for YOURSELF. Jesus clearly said that "no man knows the day or the hour" (Mt 24:36) and He also said "it is not for you to "know" the times or the seasons which the Father has put in his own power" (Acts 1:7)

@Moodboard39

21 күн бұрын

​@@7Truth7Wins7It was supposed happened in their lifetime. And Jesus gave them signs preceding up to his return . They all though even Paul the world going to end in their lifetime .

Tough start guys, starting from a standpoint akin to all systems before hmmm

I was recently looking at the historicist view of Revelation but now I have thrown out the New Testament so that’s out the window I guess too. It seemed to make sense with revelation playing out over the last 1900 years. 😔

@jefftaylor19

3 жыл бұрын

You will notice that the New Testament has a lot of opinions by people other than Jesus. If you look at the words of Jesus alone in the Gospels, not the New Testament, you will find that you were supposed to be worshipping God alone, or what they translated as, "the Father". The early Hellenistic followers, Paul and the likes of him, injected a whole new religion on top of the Gospels, hijacking Jesus's message of worshipping God alone to enter God's kingdom. From the study of early Christianities, yes plural, we find many competing versions. The Ebionites, who were later condemned as Heratics by the Roman's who took control of Christianity, may actually have been closest to the teachings of Jesus. May God guide us. I only want to share the following info. because it is so incredible. You may be looking for it. So much clarification has come to us from God apart from the Bible. You may have just part of the picture. The Bible was God's perfect word originally before the human injections. God's messengers bring PROOF that they are from God. They NEVER ask for money. -Abraham survived being burned alive. Proof -Joseph interpreted Dreams perfectly. Proof (dream interpreting was a big deal then) -Moses defeated the Magicians illusions and opened a path in the Sea to escape from Pharaoh. Proof (Magic was a big deal then) -David as a youth, killed Goliath. Proof. (warriors were a big deal then) -Jesus brought Lazarus back from the dead. Proof (healing was a big deal then) -Muhammad was inspired the Quran over 23 years. (Great litterature a poetry was a big deal then. The Quran is know as the standard of the Arabic language for it's perfection) And now the great news for you and me in our time. May God protect you from any lies or influence of some opinion not from God. Here it is: We were sent another messenger from God in 1988. It may seem unbelievable, but I assure you it is true. The first message since Jesus and Muhammad. He did not ask for any money. He brought proof. What was his proof and what is a big deal in our world today? Math and science are the revered abilities of our day as illustrated by the advent of a computer in everyone's hand. Dr. Rashad Khalifa announced in 1988 that he was God's messenger. His proof he had worked on for the previous 19 years. He discovered that God's scriptures are coded Mathematically with the Number 19 as a common denominator. The number 19 is like God's signature. It as a one in it and a nine in it, as if to say the first integer and the last integer, or the Alpha and the Omega Back in the days of Jesus and Muhammad, they used letters to count. Numbers hadn't been invented yet. The word "ONE" could also be seen as the numerical equivalent to, you guessed it, 19. (God is ONE). You have 19 bones in your hand The human Body has 209 bones, 19x11. You gestated in the womb 266 days 19 x14 You gestated in the womb 38 weeks. 19 x2 The earth Sun and Moon line up every 19 years The distance to the Sun is on the average (according to NASA) is 8 min. 19 seconds (19 is the 8th prime number and your wrist has 8 bones) Haleys comet come once in a lifetime for most, every 76 years. 19 x 4 The Bible was, but it is so distorted that 19 is hard to detect. Even so, in the 12th century, Rabbi Judah the Pius, wrote 8 volumes on the mathematical structure of scripture with the number 19 as central component.The following quotation is taken from STUDIES IN JEWISH MYSTICISM , (Association for Jewish Studies, Cambridge, Mass., Joseph Dan & Frank Talmage, eds., Page 88, 1982). The quotation refers to the work of Rabbi Judah the Pious (12th Century AD): The people [Jews] in France made it a custom to add [in the morning prayer] the words: " 'Ashrei temimei derekh [blessed are those who walk the righteous way]," and our Rabbi, the Pious, of blessed memory, wrote that they were completely and utterly wrong. It is all gross falsehood, because there are only nineteen times that the Holy Name is mentioned [in that portion of the morning prayer]... and similarly you find the word 'Elohim nineteen times in the pericope of Ve-'elleh shemot... . Similarly, you find that Israel were called "sons" nineteen times, and there are many other examples. All these sets of nineteen are intricately intertwined, and they contain many secrets and esoteric meanings, which are contained in more than eight large volumes... Furthermore, in this section there are 152 (19x8) words. Amazing. But the Quran, however, is fully intact and the mathematical structure is clear and easy to see. It has 19 all over it and chapter 74 of verse 30 says, "Over it is 19". (interesting fact is that the Mathematical code was discovered in 1974) DR. Khalifa discovered this code. But, also he was prophesied in the Bible and the Quran. I know it's hard to believe, but the information he shared is so valuable that we cannot afford to ignore it. Worship God alone, just as Jesus, Muhammed, Moses and Abraham did. Here are many links to discover for yourself. We now know with Mathematical certainty that God is real, that He sends us information, and we now know exactly what we are supposed to do to get back into God's kingdom, here, right now! Peace. kzread.info/dash/bejne/gXWCpNyMoc7Vj5M.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/e32pqNuJnrTPc9o.html submission.org/introduction.html www.masjidtucson.org/quran/ReadQuran.php?appendix=1 kzread.info/dash/bejne/d4B9uKSMqqu9qLQ.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/oZOLyKdqf9bOec4.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/d2GXqdKmdbW_gqg.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/kYGb3NqCeq7Voso.html Peace.

@AF276300

3 жыл бұрын

@@jefftaylor19 Wow, here comes my 19th nervous breakdown!

@tealx2014

3 жыл бұрын

@@AF276300 How much can Liberty Mutual, save you?

@bleirdo_dude

2 жыл бұрын

@Johnny Octane We are all prone to the addictive powers of the Holy Dopamine Gost via Placebo Faith. The evolution that increased our cognition (Frontal Cortex) still has remnants of the things that preexisted it (Mesolimbic). The ancient Theists/Philosophers thought that the FEELS was contact with a divine presence/knowledge. Imagine the euphoria for the average person believing they won millions on a lottery ticket (they don't know it's fake), then compare being suckered in by John 3:16. Just study the neurology of addiction, as well as how both drug and thought addictions are related on a neurochemical level, and hallucinations (all five senses including vocal). The Armor of God is the Dopamine Reward System that deflects the flaming arrows & sword thrusts of Demonic Reason. 🧠👉🙏👉🧠👉🤪=😇🧠👻 This applies to any irrational belief/behaviour

@bleirdo_dude

2 жыл бұрын

@Johnny Octane The High Priest's headdress had a crown representing a plant known for it's hallucinogenic properties at which a golden plate covered the forehead. On said golden plate was inscribed sacred characters for the name of God. Josephus: THE ANTIQUITIES OF THE JEWS, BOOK 3, CHAPTER 7 (172-178), CONCERNING THE GARMENTS ...OF THE HIGH PRIEST "6. The high priest's mitre was the same that we described before, and was wrought like that of all the other priests; above which there was another, with swathes of blue embroidered, and round it was a golden crown polished, of three rows, one above another; out of which arose a cup of gold, which resembled the herb which we call Saccharus: but those Greeks that are skilful in botany call it Hyoscyamus. ...Now the fruit is preserved by this coat of the calyx, which fruit is like the seed of the herb Sideritis: it sends out a flower that may seem to resemble that of poppy. Of this was a crown made, as far as from the hinder part of the head to each of the temples; but this Ephielis, for so this calyx may be called, did not cover the forehead, but it was covered with a golden plate, which had inscribed upon it the name of God in sacred characters. And such were the ornaments of the high priest." Hyoscyamus Niger " ...was historically used..., as well as for its psychoactive properties in "magic brews". These psychoactive properties include visual hallucinations and a sensation of flight. ...The plant, recorded as Herba Apollinaris, was used to yield oracles by the priestesses of Apollo." wiki/Hyoscyamus_niger Philippians 3:5 "5 circumcised on the eighth day, a member of the people of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew born of Hebrews; as to the law, a Pharisee;" 2 Corinthians 12:1-4 "1 It is necessary to boast; nothing is to be gained by it, but I will go on to visions and revelations of the Lord. 2 I know a person in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven - whether in the body or out of the body I do not know; God knows. 3 And I know that such a person - whether in the body or out of the body I do not know; God knows - 4 was caught up into Paradise and heard things that are not to be told, that no mortal is permitted to repeat." Philo: THE SPECIAL LAWS, III "I There was once a time when, devoting my leisure to philosophy and to the contemplation of the world and the things in it, I reaped the fruit of excellent, and desirable, and blessed intellectual feelings, being always living among the divine oracles and doctrines, on which I fed incessantly and insatiably, to my great delight, never entertaining any low or grovelling thoughts, nor ever wallowing in the pursuit of glory or wealth, or the delights of the body, but I appeared to be raised on high and borne aloft by a certain inspiration of the soul, and to dwell in the regions of the sun and moon, and to associate with the whole heaven, and the whole universal world. At that time, therefore, looking down from above, from the air, and straining the eye of my mind as from a watch-tower, I surveyed the unspeakable contemplation of all the things on the earth, and looked upon myself as happy as having forcibly escaped from all the evil fates that can attack human life. ...Behold, therefore, I venture not only to study the sacred commands of Moses, but also with an ardent love of knowledge to investigate each separate one of them, and to endeavour to reveal and to explain to those who wish to understand them, things concerning them which are not known to the multitude."

When Jesus comes, he won’t be able to open the coffin!!!

After having listened to a few of Neville Goddard's videos, I've begun to suspect that the intimation of the NT was that the christ consciousness was "soon to come", meaning more or less "Now". As everything occurs in the "Now" moment, which really is the only moment. Possibly the writers had this metaphysical knowledge and were trying to stitch it into the books. Regardless, it is definitely worth looking at.

Now for the people who were living at that time their destruction came.

I'm not a biblical scholar by no means, but didn't God say after the flood that he would never destroy the Earth again? Isn't the rainbow after a rain suppose to remind him not to destroy the Earth? I'm not trying to be disrespectful. If I offended anybody I apologize.

@williamwatson4354

3 жыл бұрын

I seem to recall he promised not to destroy the Earth with another flood. There's plenty of other ways to go.

@PapaDon46

3 жыл бұрын

If I remember right, He said He wouldn't do it by flood. Gave himself some wiggle room.

@paulsemberekaii8402

3 жыл бұрын

you are half right, it says he would never use water to destroy the world again. Which leaves it open to other methods.

@kamelalhassani4609

3 жыл бұрын

And the tsunami didn't kill thousand of people isn't this a distraction

@jamesfaubel4403

3 жыл бұрын

"God" promises to no more destroy the earth by flood. The next destruction shall be by FIRE (Global Warming?).

I don't think Paul had a British accent.🥰

Nice short podcast 👍. My question, were the Nag Hammadi scriptures apocalyptic ???.

Derek please interview Dr Stephen J. Shoemaker on early Islamic apocalyptic failure!!!!

@BritonAD

3 жыл бұрын

👍

@simplicityistheultimatesop6571

3 жыл бұрын

Haha. 7:18 They ask you ˹O Prophet˺ regarding the Hour, “When will it be?” Say, “That knowledge is only with my Lord. He alone will reveal it when the time comes. It is too tremendous for the heavens and the earth and will only take you by surprise.” They ask you as if you had full knowledge of it. Say, “That knowledge is only with Allah, but most people do not know.”

@simplicityistheultimatesop6571

3 жыл бұрын

Islam is not Christianity. 79-42 They ask you ˹O Prophet˺ regarding the Hour, “When will it be?” - Dr. Mustafa Khattab, the Clear Quran 79-43 But it is not for you to tell its time.1 - Dr. Mustafa Khattab, the Clear Quran 79-44 That knowledge rests with your Lord ˹alone˺. - Dr. Mustafa Khattab, the Clear

@simplicityistheultimatesop6571

3 жыл бұрын

You won’t be able to reply because I don’t have time nor patience for ignorance. There’s a debate going on in the Muslim world to teach creation. 71-13 What is [the matter] with you that you do not attribute to Allah [due] grandeur - Saheeh International 71-14 While He has created you in stages?1 - Saheeh International 71-15 Do you not consider how Allah has created seven heavens in layers1 - Saheeh International 7-16 And made the moon therein a [reflected] light and made the sun a burning lamp? - Saheeh Internationalol 71-17 And Allah has caused you to grow from the earth a [progressive] growth. - Saheeh International 7-18 Then He will return you into it and extract you [another] extraction. - Saheeh International 24:45Allah has created every [living] creature from water. And of them are those that move on their bellies, and of them are those that walk on two legs, and of them are those that walk on four. Allah creates what He wills. Indeed, Allah is over all things competent. 29-19 Have they not considered how Allah begins the Creation and then repeats it? Indeed that,for Allah,is easy. 29-20 Say,[O Prophet ] travel through the land and observe how He began creation.Then Allah will produce the final creation.Indeed Allah,over all things, Is competent.Sahih international 15-26 And We did certainly create man out of clay from an altered black mud. 15:28 And [mention, O Prophet], when your Lord said to the angels, "I will create a human being out of clay from an altered black mud. 15:29 And when I have proportioned him and breathed into him of My [created] soul, then fall down to him in prostration. The Quran is not a comical book like the Bible.

I enjoyed listening to this. It is true that God had his Providence prolonged when Israel rejected the chosen one. Again and again throughout biblical timeline. So the end times are here, maybe this time for real.

Beautiful points made at the end

That wine glass is soooo boss

I don't know if you see the videos on UsefulCharts, but I see a video where he talk about the book of Daniel and the Revelation.

the Apostles were not perfect and even Jesus said, that No one knew the day of his return...so the idea that it would be very soon, was likely emotional hopefulness..: But we also had passages that say that those who would mock the Bible would say : where is the promise of his return? And if we consider a few other facts like the similarity between the description of the book of Romans of an evil and adulterous generation, and of apparent generation of those disobedient to parents, and men with men, being pushed by government agenda's, we see a Sodom like world emerging. And we also see a beast like authority emerging throughout the world, with forced DNA altering jabs, bio engineering, massive lies being fed to the masses via government media control, and an agenda that is anti Christian. Some, today have looked at the remnants of what looks very much like the 5 cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, around the dead sea and we realize that whatever happened there must have been at the hands of godlike strength...and the scriptural warning that nothing would grow there...and today, nothing grows there still..it is a witness to the events coming and just because we have not seen the events of the New Testament fully unfold does not mean that they will not: One of the elements we have been waiting for, as mentioned in the book of Romans, is those who would mock the Word, and who would call what is good bad and what is bad, good. My congratulations to those who are the mockers of today...That New Testament foretold of you some 2,000 years ago!

@Moodboard39

21 күн бұрын

And they thought it will end, or coming soon... It didn't happend in their lifetime.... Paul mention wrath of the uttermost, as if it was coming to themm

This is my opinion only. And I could be wrong. Looking at Danial 8:14. Saying it will take 2300 evenings and mornings to me meaning years because looking at equinox the the year begin at night of equinox day( the day mornings and nights are equal) and ends the next year morning of equinox. Danial 8:11 says about second temple being thrown down. Danial 8:14 saying about the temple being reconsecrated(third temple). So from 70 Ad plus 2300 years bring us to 2370 Ad. My opinion only. In my own studying I am finding I’m always wrong.😄😄😄.

Wow...never bothered to DEFINE "APOCALYPTIC" in the first place.

I so happy to NOT share any of that scary mess with my kids. Thanks for explaining the variations.

@Aitainment1

2 ай бұрын

Imma teach my kids the Bible so they’ll know how to argue against it cause trust me people will try an convert our kids

@karenabrams8986

2 ай бұрын

@@Aitainment1 good idea. Better to go over it and why it’s ridiculous ravings of a lunatic written by some random guy hallucinating on an island.

I’m glad he extended the time otherwise I’d be fudged up. 1988 when I was lead to Christ. I hope more people get time?

Going to check out Schweitzer now: “Jesus threw himself on the wheel of history and it lunged back and crushed him."

It seems to me if Schwietzer was that great a scholar he would have to have written something about mythicism. So what did he say?

@grantsmythe8625

2 жыл бұрын

There's no substitute for reading the primary sources for yourself. Yes, it is a lot of work but if you really want to know, you'll find out for yourself.

@ghostriders_1

2 жыл бұрын

@@grantsmythe8625 Maybe not, but reading books on the topic is not hard work & we are talking about out of date scholarship. Sounds like you've done the "hard work" so if you can articulate any insights Schweitzer had? Pro or con mythicism, I'll be on to it like a shot.

Hahaha aaahh "Wait a minute .. .. we did a segment..." 8:30

The fundamental problem with Tabor take on what is real and not real when it comes to scripture, Bible, Qumram or otherwise, as he enunciates at the end of this video, is that not all people of faith are literalists on every point or idea expressed in scripture, and far from feeling that it is necessary to figure out or know themselves how the world will or will not end, they simply leave that to God. That some believe or have believed a literal apocalypse (and exactly in what that apocalypse consists) in their own time is their right if they care to do so. And as erroneous as we might see such views as being, Prof Tabor can hardly be said to know better than they simply because he is an agnostic.

you made a living or both of you have bless the scriptures sunshine

Id have to ask, is yhis study willing to accept if it's proven wrong

Research the Rining cedars of Russia, book three and six.

The word ‘interpretation’ always gets pulled out of the bag by creationists when the bible doesn’t work for them. The religious policy is: If there is no truth evident, put a spin on (or just try and destroy anyone with reasonable contradictory facts).

It's Psalm 22 again and again .... In Eternity this is just another bit of Time - U can't handle Eternity !!!

@Moodboard39

21 күн бұрын

Huh

I don't know why this is isn't brought up more in general. Christianity, the fundamentalist version anyway, has already been refuted by itself.

@martenjustrell446

3 жыл бұрын

All versions except when the text can mean anything you want them to mean. Else you have to discard all the gospels, paul, peter book of revelations. Basically everything. When everything is wrong in your texts then there is nothing left. And a text that cant be interpreted however you want is worthless and means nothing. All this proves that religion is about feelings and some basic need in humans. Even when we today know it's all made up people still believe it, or believe something at least. Most believers don't know much about their religion or they cherry pick and use cognitive dissonance. Most people needs a master in the sky to tell them what to do to find meaning in life and overcome the fear of not existing. The ultimate endgame for a social animal.The pack and hierarchy needs to be in place even if it's not in the real world. That is when it becomes so strange hearing so called freedom loving americans that say they love freedom so much but still are desperate to have an authority that rules supreme in their lives. The ultimate sky daddy authoritarian. Not much freedom there. Massive paradox but they dont seem to see it themself.

@sos1691

3 жыл бұрын

….the bible tells on itself....

@tklyte

3 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU !! I'm so glad someone else said it. I keep saying this to Chritians and they still don't get it.

@martenjustrell446

3 жыл бұрын

@@tklyte Yet they see this in other religions and point that out. But most people are doubters by they don't want to admit it, like their God would not know that they don't truly believe but more wants and hopes it's real. This is why it takes so long for many to let go. The guilt, fear and shame that they have been "fooled".. But always ask Christians first. What is a prophets that fails in his predictions? And point to some other religious example. Then point out that it's the same for their religion. Will make some start thinking..

@tklyte

3 жыл бұрын

@@martenjustrell446 True. And then watch the mental gymnastics they do to get around "failed prophesies" It's olympic gold worth.

Re: 6:07 The Essenes said: "The teacher has died and in 40 years all the men of wickedness will be destroyed" -- Holy shoot, was that expressly said in the DSS? Please indicate where. Thanks!

@jefftaylor19

3 жыл бұрын

The Teacher of Righteousness (in Hebrew: מורה הצדק Moreh ha-Tzedek) is a figure found in some of the Dead Sea Scrolls at Qumran, most prominently in the Damascus Document.[1] This document speaks briefly of the origins of the sect, probably Essenes, 390 years after the reign of Nebuchadnezzar and after 20 years of "groping" blindly for the way. "God... raised for them a Teacher of Righteousness to guide them in the way of His heart".[2] The Teacher is extolled as having proper understanding of the Torah, qualified in its accurate instruction,[3] and being the one through whom God would reveal to the community "the hidden things in which Israel had gone astray".[4] Although the exact identity of the Teacher is unknown, based on the text of the Community Rule scroll, the teachers of the sect are identified as Kohens (priests) of patrilineal progeny of Zadok[5] (the first high priest to serve in The First Temple), leading scholars to assume the Teacher as a Kohen (priest) of Tzadokite lineage.[5] But if you want to really be blown away, you should know that the second coming was misunderstood. Jesus never said he was coming. Rather the "son of man" was coming. That was Dr. Rashad Khalifa in 1988. See for yourself: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gXWCpNyMoc7Vj5M.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/e32pqNuJnrTPc9o.html submission.org/introduction.html www.masjidtucson.org/quran/ReadQuran.php?appendix=1 kzread.info/dash/bejne/d4B9uKSMqqu9qLQ.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/oZOLyKdqf9bOec4.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/d2GXqdKmdbW_gqg.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/kYGb3NqCeq7Voso.html And you must read: www.goodreads.com/book/show/10772913-quran It's for free on the web sites above also Peace.

@PBAmygdala2021

3 жыл бұрын

@@jefftaylor19 hello Jeff, Thanks so much for the detailed information. I really appreciate it. I've got a lot of reading to do! :) If I could bother you for one more tidbit of information, the issue that most caught me off guard was the mention of "in 40 years". The number 40 jumped out at me. Of course 40 is prevalent throughout the LXX, but I'm particularly interested in whether this was a direct "prophecy" that there would be a 40-year period between the death of a leader and a tragedy. If so, and if such a document was sitting on the desk of the author of the first gospel, then that could be a contributing factor for the reason for setting Jesus's execution in the time of Pilate, 40 years before the Jewish revolt, the siege, and the fall of the temple. If you happen to know if that particular mention is in the DSS or specifically the Damascus document, I'd love to learn where abouts it is. Thanks again for your assistance!

@dianastevenson131

2 жыл бұрын

Read Robert Eisenman - he thinks the Righteous Teacher of the DSS was James the brother of Jesus, the first leader of the church in Jerusalem, who Paul is in dispute with in Acts. He thinks some of the DSS are first-century because they fit Roman oppression rather than the age of the Maccabees as other scholars think. Eisenman is very interesting, as is Christopher Lawson who has a similar view.

The most troubling passage, and about the end times. They truly believe he was going to return, idk how clear can it be. Very troubling. Depenstiomal teach after the church leaves, Israel would resume. How so? So that means the apostles would be resurrected again to witness the tribulation in what Jesus predicted? That don't make sense, what about Chaiphis the high priest? He will see coming in the clouds of heaven? He's been dead 2000 years ago, or the those peirced him in revelation 1???

I guess I’m a lot like Jesus: when I say, “I will be coming soon”, I mean anytime between now and March 2084.

My maternal grandfather was a Campbellite.

Yeah people of NT Believed in immenency. Gave them HOPE in hard times

Is the temple on yhe mount the ambomination of desolation

@RepentofYourFakeChristia-wr7fq

21 күн бұрын

No!

Psalm. 40:7

The Great Pumpkin.

Of course my comments are directed to those who are apologists to these biblical end times revelations that failed and not directed to Dr. James Tabor comments !

I had to listen three times before I realised he was not saying "if it carries, wait for it" - wth did that mean?! Oh "tarries". I think this word :tarries" is better known in the US than where I come from - probably because of all those "tardies" you were hit with in primary school (grade school?).

Apocalypticism from Qumran to Waco: They all failed. Albert Schweitzer is the best bible historian in- history.